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Game Changer: SAC Infinity APS Die
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2023
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When I saw the prototype for the Short Action Customs Infinity APS die at SHOT Show this year, I couldn’t wait to try one for myself. It’s finally here! Check it out in this video.
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It would be awesome to see a comparison of accuracy on seating depth consistency and bullet run out. Using the SAC “The Seating Die” on a press vs SAC infinity die on the arbor press. Thanks for another great video😉
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Ditto
Holy smokes!! That is way too much! The diminishing return becomes too big of a barrier for me.
Essentially creating a problem and selling the solution. Every time you want to load a different cartridge you'll have to redo the seating depth. That's not an improvement. It's not better, it's just different.
Looks to be a pain in the ass
Yeah but you don't have to buy/own a dies for each cartridge.
The biggest benefit is precise modular seating across multiple calibers, and with overcapacity. Match seating dies with micrometers like Redding warn against using the seaters to seat bullets in compressed loads or over case capacity, and will not warranty any Match Seating die that breaks due to seating on compressed loads or charges over capacity. This solves that
@@dem1157 Yeah but if this seating die body dead that means you can't seat any calibers. Don't put all eggs in one basket.
Just ordered one to seat bullets for my 6PRC! I decided to try it since there are no other available bullet seating dies for this cartridge. If it's as good as their siizing dies I won't be disappointed. I love the comments that say it's overerngineered or solving a problem that doesn't exist. Show me another standard bullet seating die that can seat 6.5 PRC and 6, 25, and 7 PRC as well. And work with anything from .22 to .338!
Great video!
Oh boy time to empty my wallet again.
It would be nice to see length measurements from round to round for consistency, plus concentricity measurements. It's great if everything stays aligned, but if it's all over the place is it really worth it? I have seating dies that cost 1/3 that are extremely consistent.
I've been very happy with my Redding competition seaters, especially when I neck turn brass. Runout is usually no more than .003". This die is $425, it'd better be giving runout figures of no more than a thousandth provided you have good brass and bullets
Exactly…….i was expecting that.
The die should do its part assuming the projectile is perfect too…
Can you measure the runout on those 5 rounds?
I'd really like to see some custom bullets, maybe swaged jacketed projectiles from Corbin?
I have it and used it for the last 2 reload session I have done. It is a great accurate tool and easy to handle.
Results? At the end of the day you would expect to see a gain in accuracy otherwise it was a waste of money. So have you seen an increase in your average accuracy? You should perform a test using a conventional setup and this new seater system with all other things remaining the same.
@DWhite-el4ih I see your point about seeing better results but that is not always the case. It's mainly the modularity and the ease of use along with the overall experience of using these ultra premium tools.
@@airenthusiast1071 I hear what you’re saying, makes sense.
Have you checked the constricity of the dummies? With that unit I believe the run-out would be half a thousandth or less. I like what I see and I'm loading for 2 7mmrem mags. Berger 168grn vld. I'm always looking to improve accuracy and precision.
yeah, for that money I want to see measurements in all directions for multiple rounds. If it's not consistent then what good is it.
Yet another solution for a problem that never existed. Anyhow, a nice presentation.
How do you adjust the Cartridge Shoulder Centering Sleeve to accommodate (hold/contact) cartridges that have been bumped back 1, 2 or 3 thousandths?
So can you use a hammer with these like the Lee version of this type of bullet seater?
WOW, Just what we all need
Looking at the assembly diagram, the case head alignment sleeve goes well beyond the .200 line. How much clearance is there in this area? Will this create an issue with fired cases in oversized "clicker-proof" reamers?
Im looking to get into reloading, if was to buy this seating die. Is there a full length seating die out there that does not require the use of a traditional press?
My garage space is extremely limited that i cannot permanently mount a press.
If you have alot of different loads this would be ok. However if you just have to one load for each cartridge different dies would be easier.
Very good, better than the SAC video!
I got lots of them for sell the Lee reloading hand kits
How much better VS the Wilson?
I'm not seeing what this solves. It seems over complicated for what it does...
you should do a review on a Warner Tool Co die for your 50 bmg
Let's see some bullet run out measurements. I wouldn't spend a dime on that setup without see some consistency in the loads first. Other than that it's an interesting product.
You can over engineer a mouse trap until it cost 100 dollars and it will work just fine but the mouse will be just as dead with the 99 cent version
Not always true
It's not a good analogy. It's more like art vs. science. Experience and prodigies can draw free hand with great results, the rest of us need a stencil to achieve it. The finer detailed stencils always cost more.
Agreed, i shoot 1000yd benchrest and even though i started using Micron Full Length Bushing Dies for my two BR rifle cartridges, I still stick with L.E. Wilson micrometer top chamber type seating dies with their vld stem for my K&M arbor press because it was 1/3 price of Microns chamber seating die
looks slick. you never mentioned the price.
Your video is better then the company video
I assume it won't do .375 or .408 CheyTac either?
I’d personally appreciate a episode dealing with lubrication / corrosion protection of precision reloading equipment and treatment / process of loaded ammunition, (cleaning - protection).
This, some of us don't have ideal conditions in our work shops/areas and sometimes no amount of humidity mitigation is enough to keep moisture away.
@@Hunting-jr1mp yup, on the lack of controlled environment. Beyond that, is the frequency of use, and concern for possible contamination, and preparation for use following preservation, of equipment and ammunition.
How much is that 5 or 600?
Man don’t that remind me of Lee hand reloading kit 🧐🧐🧐🧐
I would like to purchase one
Awesome! See shortactioncustoms.com/
Can this die be used with the amp press?
Yes- check out our recent video showing that combo!
please show the run out of the bullet. for that price it should be dead nuts on run out.
cost too high wilson seems as good
Better actually. A Wilson chamber die is just about as good as you can get. This is basically a modular version so slop will always exist to accommodate the variances.
Will it work with wildcats?
It's a great product for most wildcats since it is so modular
That's why I got one. Works with my 6 PRC.
Accuracy comparison for Dies!
$475
Lol, why am I not surprised. Just looked, only $425 now! Oh wait, each additional Die Base Insert is another $50 Lets see, how many calibers do I have... time to take out a second mortgage...
No .25 cal.
Yes, 25s work with it, see:
HERE IS A LIST OF CARTRIDGES COMPATIBLE WITH EACH TYPE OF BASE INSERT
Type 1 (Any 223 Rem Based Cartridges)
223 Remington
223 Remington Ackley Improved
222 Remington
204 Ruger
6x45mm Remington
300 Blackout
Type 2 (Any Valkyrie Based Cartridges)
.224 Valkyrie
Type 3 (Any PPC Based Cartridges)
6 PPC
6 ARC
6.5 Grendel
6.8 SPC
7.62 x 39
Type 4 (Any 308 Based Cartridges)
22 / 6 / 25 / 30 BR
22 / 6 / 25 BRA
22 / 6 / 25 BRX
22 / 6 / 25 Dasher
22 / 6 / 25 / 6.5 / 30 x 47 Lapua
22 / 6 / 25 / 30 GT
22 / 6 / 25 / 6.5 / 7 / 30 Creedmoor
22-243 / 243 / 260 / 7mm-08 / 308 Winchester
Type 4 XL (Any 308 Based Long Action Cartridges)
30-06 Springfield
280 Remington
270 Winchester
280 Remington AI
6.5-06
25-06
Also works with longer Short Action Cartridges like 308 Win. and 6.5 Creedmoor
Type 5 (Any .284 Winchester Based Cartridges)
6.5 - 284 Winchester
284 Winchester
Type 6 (.535″ Based Cartridges)
6.5 PRC
6 / 6.5 PRC
25 / 6.5 PRC
7 / 6.5 PRC
Type 6 XL (Belted Magnums / Long Action .535″ Based Cartridges)
300 Winchester Magnum
7 Remington Magnum
7 PRC
300 PRC
7 LRM
264 Winchester Magnum
264 Weatherby Magnum
270 Weatherby Magnum
7 Weatherby Magnum
300 Weatherby Magnum
Type 7 ( .551″SAUM Based Cartridges)
6 / 6.5 / 7 / 300 SAUM (Short Action Ultra Magnum)
6.8 Western
Type 7 XL (.551″ Based Long Action Cartridges)
26 / 28 / 30 Nosler
7 / 300 / 338 RUM ( Remington Ultra Magnums)
Type 8 (WSM Based Cartridges)
7-300 / 300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum)
Type 8 XL (.558″ WSM Based Cartridges)
7 WSM
Type 9 (Lapua Magnum Based Cartridges)
338 Lapua Magnum
338 Lapua Magnum Ackley Improved
300 / 338 Norma Magnum
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If it's SAC it will cost 3 times what you expect them to cost.
4+ times
On sale for $425. Umm, no.
I maybe a neophyte but I don't understand who this product is intended for. If you can't deprime, prime or reshape with it and it only seats bullets why would someone buy this instead of using a press they still need for every other step?
Some of us prefer arbor presses for seating bullets. I use LE Wilson dies and a KM Press. I can seat my bullets to a max length, go to the range and fine tune seating the bullets at the range as I see results.
@P0rtScann3r thank you very much that makes sense now. A range pocket rocket 🚀
Can someone please explain to me why why these idiots aren't imprisoned for breaking the law? It says shall not be infringed yet they do everyday. Also can someone please explain to me why on earth they want to take away from your defense arsenal when crimes at its highest? And how does that level of stupid always get elected??
I’ll stick to my coax press with Redding and Forster dies. This seems like a gimmick and tons of stacked tolerances. I do not want to do a bunch of threading and building of my die. Way to much set up. Sorry just my honest opinion. How many die sets from Redding can you buy to pay for this thing? I’ll pass
Too many steps to get setup. Rather use my Micron seating die
You demonstrated how this seating die works........but you didn't show the results........are we to take this as this product yields lackluster results in concentricity and bullet runout? Or this product produces nothing that a Wilson seating die hasn't accomplished decades ago?
$425
Each additional base $50
I will pass... Nezar seater die ftw.... I rather buy per cal and gun....all in one solution is not not for me.
Which Austrian sociopath named this stuff? Just mark on the side what calibers each one does! 😂 Why do we need charts and reference material.