Are receivers MORE IMPORTANT than edge rushers? 🏃‍♂️ Mad Dog & Louis Riddick disagree | First Take

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  • @FlyingMan23
    @FlyingMan23 2 місяці тому +216

    Yooo we got Ocho on first take

    • @Salhd10
      @Salhd10 2 місяці тому +6

      Yes he’s not very good for TV tho he talks very little that’s not so good for a Debate show

    • @HARVEY_1988
      @HARVEY_1988 2 місяці тому +9

      @@Salhd10Relax everybody has to start somewhere

    • @liltwiz2846
      @liltwiz2846 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Salhd10SHUT UP

    • @reptonplaya
      @reptonplaya 2 місяці тому +1

      2nd time this week

    • @KingCarolina_
      @KingCarolina_ 2 місяці тому

      He’s been on before. Was in during Super Bowl week with Shannon Stephen A and Molly in person. Casual.

  • @HenryW127
    @HenryW127 2 місяці тому +101

    Make this man a full timer ESPN

    • @poiper8966
      @poiper8966 2 місяці тому +3

      He literally said both. He aint getting no full time position with dumb/boring answers like that.

    • @HenryW127
      @HenryW127 2 місяці тому

      @@poiper8966 you'll be alright

  • @Ghost4k99
    @Ghost4k99 2 місяці тому +36

    Ocho done broke through to first take he spoke it into existence!

  • @QueenOfTopicsTv
    @QueenOfTopicsTv 2 місяці тому +89

    Here for our cousin Ocho 😂❤️🔥

    • @chelseaamangoua3273
      @chelseaamangoua3273 2 місяці тому +2

      Most definitely

    • @KingCarolina_
      @KingCarolina_ 2 місяці тому

      Girl shut up he could have you if he wanted to that’s why you’re here, not cause he’s your “cousin” 🤣

    • @KingCarolina_
      @KingCarolina_ 2 місяці тому

      Girl you just want to slee p with him 🤣 “cousin” lmao

    • @QueenOfTopicsTv
      @QueenOfTopicsTv 2 місяці тому

      @@KingCarolina_ First of all I’m a married woman! Secondly he’s not my type! Maybe your MAMMY wants to sleep with him! 🙄✌🏾

  • @ovrlyfocusd
    @ovrlyfocusd 2 місяці тому +34

    Nightcap backdrop super dope Ocho!!!

  • @theflykingdom
    @theflykingdom 2 місяці тому +18

    Haven’t heard Chad Johnson in so long I forgot that was his original name 😂

  • @MeNMyKickz1988
    @MeNMyKickz1988 2 місяці тому +7

    Ocho been asking for a min from Shannon to get on ESPN and it’s great it finally happened

  • @NinjaSquirrel30
    @NinjaSquirrel30 2 місяці тому +15

    Maddog is a national treasure
    🇺🇲
    ⚾ 🫡

    • @Carlos-t3j1z
      @Carlos-t3j1z 2 місяці тому +2

      He was on 2 days last week versus the normal 1 day. Best week ever. Dude knows his stuff

  • @jonmolina948
    @jonmolina948 2 місяці тому +12

    Ocho doing big things.

  • @thesweetermonster3453
    @thesweetermonster3453 2 місяці тому +24

    There’s a reason so many edge rushers go 1st overall. And only 1 receiver has ever gone first overall. There’s a reason why aside from qb, edge rushers have been picked the second most out of any position in the top 5 of all drafts. Edge rusher is hands down the more important position

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому +3

      Wrong tons of teams have made a super bowl without a top edge rusher almost no team had made a super bowl without a top receiver or tight end

    • @DameDollaBeats
      @DameDollaBeats 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexRosner-v8t‼️‼️‼️

    • @KingCarolina_
      @KingCarolina_ 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexRosner-v8tfunny how you threw in TEs and still wrong. Plenty have had a top 10 receiver or TE. You’re just looking at the recent SB winners also having to throw in TE to count Travis Kelcie lmao

    • @thesweetermonster3453
      @thesweetermonster3453 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexRosner-v8t name a team that has won a Super Bowl without an elite pass rush

    • @jonmolina948
      @jonmolina948 2 місяці тому +1

      A running back used to be most important. You can move the ball, control the clock, and keep your defense fresh. Receivers are more important now because of the rules and penalties. D lineman are constrained by the rules.

  • @RuudTheHub
    @RuudTheHub 2 місяці тому +58

    When it cuts to his smaller screen the sign says nigca

    • @coreycarter5335
      @coreycarter5335 2 місяці тому +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @rockoutry
      @rockoutry 2 місяці тому +3

      lmfao

    • @HighRants.
      @HighRants. 2 місяці тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @blitz30034
      @blitz30034 2 місяці тому +4

      Just noticed now that you mentioned it 😂😂😂

    • @EricMcBride323
      @EricMcBride323 2 місяці тому +1

      Bruh😂😂😂😂

  • @leonroma3845
    @leonroma3845 2 місяці тому +38

    UNC Looking out

    • @BlackFabio
      @BlackFabio 2 місяці тому +4

      He ain’t know about it 🤣

  • @HwangtheKorean
    @HwangtheKorean 2 місяці тому +10

    The Crossover we needed!!🙏

  • @-370HSSV-
    @-370HSSV- 2 місяці тому +8

    Those Patriots teams they're talking about didn't have that one dynamic edge rusher. They had a collection of really good football players on defense and the GOAT

  • @damnitstroubleman
    @damnitstroubleman 2 місяці тому +1

    My 🥷🏿 Ocho finally made it on First Take. Salute 🫡

  • @CA-tk8yn
    @CA-tk8yn 2 місяці тому +9

    The receiver will almost always have a defender focusing on slowing him down and isn't involved on a lot of plays. The edge rusher, comes full steam play after play. This means the ER is always in every play. They are more important overall, and focused on stopping or fooling on every play.

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому

      Wrong receiver effects every play edge rusher only has a few pressures a game

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому

      Wrong you can pressure a qb and tons of times the qb still completes the throw the best edge rusher only averages 1 sack a game

    • @KingCarolina_
      @KingCarolina_ 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexRosner-v8tyea cause every single has the ball thrown to him every play or demands double teams every play when there’s like 10 to 20 guys who get doubled. Teams are only doubling 5 pass rushers in the league right now. Top receiver is more common than top edge rusher. You can easily make a top 5 edge rushers. You’d have a hard time making just a top 10 or even 15 receivers list when most teams have a #1. And some two #1s.

    • @frederickwilliams9204
      @frederickwilliams9204 2 місяці тому

      @@AlexRosner-v8tthe greatest edge rusher effects the game more than the greatest wide receiver. They can make in impact on every play. They’re closer to the hall They can shut plays down before they even get started

    • @MikkiChavez
      @MikkiChavez 2 місяці тому

      Edge doesn't mean u come after QB every play. I don't understand how ppl don't know football & speak on it so much

  • @jogonzo7509
    @jogonzo7509 2 місяці тому +2

    We want ocho!

  • @saidmohamud2036
    @saidmohamud2036 2 місяці тому +5

    You can see how green Ocho is lol. He's got great talent though and he'll get better with more practice in this kind of format

  • @bobbybounleuang2239
    @bobbybounleuang2239 2 місяці тому +4

    Hate the delays... these guys need to get back in the office or get better internet 😂😂😂

  • @donovanjohnson3947
    @donovanjohnson3947 2 місяці тому +1

    They do completely different things so you can’t really compare them. But they’re both equally important. Without WRs it’s easier to stop a teams offense because you need a run game and a passing game to be completely effective. Without edge rushers, the linebackers won’t have the extra support that they need to stop the offense.

  • @julianwatts9024
    @julianwatts9024 2 місяці тому +8

    Chiefs win 0 superbowls without Chris Jones . It’s defensive line and it’s not close

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому

      Wrong chiefs dud nothing with Chris jones for years before mahomes

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому

      Chiefs had Chris jones on 2015-2016-2017 and did absolutely nothing try again

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому

      Chiefs don’t make playoffs without. Kielce

    • @AlexRosner-v8t
      @AlexRosner-v8t 2 місяці тому

      Dumb comment chiefs defense gave up 35 points in super bowl with Chris jones and chiefs Ron because of kelce

    • @mikehatten5738
      @mikehatten5738 2 місяці тому

      Chris jones has 1 post season sack 😂😂😂

  • @levinen
    @levinen 2 місяці тому +3

    If you have an elite edge rusher the qb won't be able to get the ball to a receiver

  • @jaheimRakim
    @jaheimRakim 2 місяці тому +1

    We talking about pass rushers and no one mentioned Nicholas John Bosa?

  • @bmospookywick8653
    @bmospookywick8653 2 місяці тому +1

    Let’s go Chad

  • @Vasqueza805
    @Vasqueza805 2 місяці тому

    Love the Maxx Crosby reference. Bout time a Raider got some love!

  • @Trap_Moe
    @Trap_Moe 2 місяці тому

    I think it’s about even in terms of what’s more important to the QB .. like a cause and effect type of thing .. but as far as team building I’m taking a rusher there more rare to find

  • @Perilys
    @Perilys 2 місяці тому

    I see the new meta, Star QB with a Star TE, star WRs struggled to win championships, because when a WR is one of your leaders & best players on the Offense, you can't really grow. If anyone actually studies sports, how teams draft, how teams build a contender etc, you would understand. When the Star TE is a leader, the team can grow, when the star WR is a leader, you can't. Detroit Lions with Megatron, Minnesota Vikings with Randy Moss, San Fransisco with Terrell Owens are examples.

  • @mkaz4232
    @mkaz4232 2 місяці тому +4

    Ocho wants in the studio next

    • @reptonplaya
      @reptonplaya 2 місяці тому +1

      he said on Nightcap, he’ll take a flight anytime they call

    • @mkaz4232
      @mkaz4232 2 місяці тому +1

      @@reptonplaya put his suit on grab a scooter and cruise to the studio from the hotel 😂

  • @corystovall3544
    @corystovall3544 2 місяці тому

    Saban always worried about the X receiver in the NFL while he was with the Fins. The outside speed in the NFL caused him nightmares.. So what did he do at Bama? He recruited a young man from the state named Julio Jones. The rest is history, forever written in the annuals.

  • @QRobNYC
    @QRobNYC 2 місяці тому

    Mad dog made a good point but u also need a receiver who can win whether it’s man or zone. If u got a receiver who literally can’t get separation ur offense isn’t going anywhere.

  • @hanoamorete179
    @hanoamorete179 2 місяці тому

    I actually agree with Mad Dog for once - His takes on Pass Rushers were fair

  • @RobertHorry1956
    @RobertHorry1956 2 місяці тому +1

    Willie Mcginest had 16 sacks in the post season which is a record.

  • @WolfMannKB
    @WolfMannKB 2 місяці тому

    Im a colts fan and I was at the game when Myles Garrett went CRAZY!!! He should be a 99 on madden

  • @wheatstreetgardens
    @wheatstreetgardens 2 місяці тому

    That boy Ocho is MUST SEE TV

  • @JohnDoe-qu7gm
    @JohnDoe-qu7gm 2 місяці тому

    It’s an interesting debate. One great WR needs help otherwise he gets double teamed. One great edge rusher…..same thing. If I owned a team I’d pay my QB and my O-line first. If they were good

  • @jamesdaniels8455
    @jamesdaniels8455 2 місяці тому

    For all you ppl that keep saying or said Ocho is finally on first take clearly don’t follow him like you think you do. Bro been got on first take months ago

  • @kesethurman353
    @kesethurman353 2 місяці тому +1

    If the edge rusher gets to the qb fast enough it don’t matter how great the wr is.

  • @adreday10
    @adreday10 2 місяці тому +1

    U wanna win championships n playoff games u need to put pressure on the qb when it matters

  • @Vasqueza805
    @Vasqueza805 2 місяці тому

    Also, Mad Dogs argument about the Patriots and niners could have easily been solidified if he said last year's Chiefs. You get a good enough QB you can win without a star receiver. If the other QB is good enough, your only hope is to get edge rushers to get in the backfield and put him on his @ss

  • @MiroTheDreamer
    @MiroTheDreamer 2 місяці тому

    Ocho been grinding in the off season. I hope they give him chance with Stephen A and Shannon. He is a prime time tv talent.

  • @lightningjuniorsuper
    @lightningjuniorsuper 2 місяці тому

    Lewis has a point tho that the patriots are pretty much a separate category on their own due not needing top guys in both of those positions but certainly their guys were like top 15-20

  • @joeynickles7962
    @joeynickles7962 2 місяці тому

    I think Louis is underselling pretty significantly just how good Seymour was. And also how good Chandler Jones was for them in the latter period of the dynasty.

  • @AllPersonalNothingBusiness
    @AllPersonalNothingBusiness 2 місяці тому

    A great pass rush can literally shield a weak secondary or defensive period while you can get by without a top wideout this is not even a debate

  • @Beezle66
    @Beezle66 2 місяці тому +3

    OCHOOOOOO

  • @Jizzlepapi_OVO
    @Jizzlepapi_OVO 2 місяці тому +2

    They done let ocho on first take 😂

  • @frenchtoastmaffia
    @frenchtoastmaffia 2 місяці тому +1

    College receiver, nfl edge rusher

  • @DaNewWaveLee
    @DaNewWaveLee 2 місяці тому

    Kupp won MVP of the Super Bowl. And you can’t act like chiefs don’t have Kelce intentionally catching passes.

  • @natureredux1957
    @natureredux1957 2 місяці тому +1

    I prefer to have a Dominate Defense as opposed to Dominate WRs.

    • @silverdasniper_
      @silverdasniper_ 2 місяці тому

      It aint say dominate defense it said pass rusher cant compare one WR to a whole defense you gotta pick 1 player lol

    • @natureredux1957
      @natureredux1957 2 місяці тому

      @@silverdasniper_ I will build any TEAM first around my Defense, can't do that with just one player on either side of the Ball.

    • @andyodvor2927
      @andyodvor2927 2 місяці тому

      @@natureredux1957Can you read?

  • @bishopsteiner7134
    @bishopsteiner7134 2 місяці тому

    Question.... did the Chief's beat the Niners in the Super Bowl because of their quality receiver play..... Or Chris Jones blowing up Brock Purdy?

  • @Devere316
    @Devere316 2 місяці тому

    did anyone do a wellness check on Brandon Marshall 😂😂😂

  • @kbrathwai
    @kbrathwai 2 місяці тому

    HOW ABOUTMR. CHRIS RUSSO ON NIGHTCAP??? 👀

  • @Tri.dawg1
    @Tri.dawg1 2 місяці тому

    Duh it’s a pass rusher🗣️ocho “ Stay with me now “

  • @otrmelo8064
    @otrmelo8064 2 місяці тому +1

    Mad dog burn them straight facts

  • @MATTYAMBZ
    @MATTYAMBZ 2 місяці тому +3

    Stay wit me nih

  • @p-raider2093
    @p-raider2093 2 місяці тому

    Mad dog knows was Up !! Who he name first MAD MAXX CROSBY BEST DE IN THE NFL

  • @C1assic074
    @C1assic074 2 місяці тому

    Receivers are more important than edge rushers

  • @LEEERROOOYYJENKINS1
    @LEEERROOOYYJENKINS1 2 місяці тому

    Obviously not edge. Usually the best WR get recognized by there stats & production. Unlike where in edge rusher the best stats don’t mean anything otherwise TJ watts league best stats would have won DPOY

  • @DaFranchise3947
    @DaFranchise3947 2 місяці тому +1

    If your QB has all day to throw the ball then you wouldn’t even need a great receiver on your team

  • @eobardjohn
    @eobardjohn 2 місяці тому

    Ocho wanted his First Take shot but wasn't ready as you can tell. Gotta strike while the iron is HOT my boy.

    • @user-xy7vi4fp7l
      @user-xy7vi4fp7l 2 місяці тому

      This wasn’t his first appearance, he was on earlier this year with unc

  • @larryricejr
    @larryricejr 2 місяці тому +3

    Mad Dog had some good points. But when your team needs it, you have to score.

  • @victorramirez-qi1dj
    @victorramirez-qi1dj 2 місяці тому

    Ocho made it!

  • @zarkbrown8546
    @zarkbrown8546 2 місяці тому +1

    Ochooooooooooooooooo

  • @Dez-c9k
    @Dez-c9k 2 місяці тому

    If wrs so important why they don’t go #1 ?

  • @10000liverpool
    @10000liverpool 2 місяці тому +1

    The more Louis talks the more ik why he didn't get hired anywhere 😂

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope 2 місяці тому

      He at least has a job, unlike the soon to be gone Joe Schoen in New York

  • @AshauntiFlowers
    @AshauntiFlowers 2 місяці тому

    Ocho making it look easy

  • @A.ChristopherJohnson
    @A.ChristopherJohnson 2 місяці тому

    All Day !!!

  • @KSmith007
    @KSmith007 2 місяці тому

    STAY WITH ME NOW !

  • @andylarkin5779
    @andylarkin5779 2 місяці тому

    its for sure edge rusher.

  • @khaliljohnson7675
    @khaliljohnson7675 2 місяці тому

    In all honesty you don’t win Super Bowl by being able to throw the football. Wr aren’t running the ball either. It’s in terms of winning championships you need a great Dline

  • @DaVictonator
    @DaVictonator 2 місяці тому +3

    Receivers are more important

  • @ojay504
    @ojay504 2 місяці тому

    Ocho still being indecisive

  • @jblaze600
    @jblaze600 2 місяці тому

    Willie Mcghinest?

  • @kbrathwai
    @kbrathwai 2 місяці тому

    FRIST TAKE X NIGHTCAP? 👀

  • @jabariburton8630
    @jabariburton8630 2 місяці тому

    Um no

  • @WestbaltimoreTop
    @WestbaltimoreTop 2 місяці тому

    WHERE TF IS TF WATT ?!??! HE SHOULD BE #1

  • @BrokeRichAnt7
    @BrokeRichAnt7 2 місяці тому

    I Now HATE Hearing "Mad Dog" Talk Sports BeCause Of Course He Is Going To Bring Old PointLess Stats To A New School Conversation SMH 🙄 😒

  • @SlugSage
    @SlugSage 2 місяці тому

    Mad Dog killed them.

  • @BoomorBust
    @BoomorBust 2 місяці тому

    Alright, this was completely scripted. Idk what's been going on with Lou this summer but he has been playing the everyman in every convo. Stop the cap, there has not been one quality team building discussion that started with receiver before edge rusher. No one is taking Justin Jefferson over Myles Garrett because the next JJ is probably coming up next year and you aren't going to see the next Garrett for 10 years.

  • @AnthonyScott-j8c
    @AnthonyScott-j8c 2 місяці тому

    How is this tough…think of LT

  • @dredagr848
    @dredagr848 2 місяці тому

    Chiefs don’t win the SB without Jones

  • @melvinguz11
    @melvinguz11 2 місяці тому

    🔥

  • @CarsonFromm
    @CarsonFromm 2 місяці тому

    no take ocho

  • @kingglen572
    @kingglen572 2 місяці тому

    It's the WR he has more of a chance to score than a pass rusher.

    • @theflykingdom
      @theflykingdom 2 місяці тому

      True but stopping the other team from scoring and or getting good field position for your offense is like scoring.

    • @Mr.Rosesright_now
      @Mr.Rosesright_now 2 місяці тому

      DBs can return INTs, front line can scoop n score​@@theflykingdom

  • @trezellebtawanda6716
    @trezellebtawanda6716 2 місяці тому

    No brainer

  • @steveoakes7072
    @steveoakes7072 2 місяці тому

    Real fans want their team to win....we aren't watching to see long passes...the pats had Randy moss and the Giants had a pass rush ... who won? Pass rush is more important

  • @khaliljohnson7675
    @khaliljohnson7675 2 місяці тому

    Prime example chiefs when they beat the eagles. They win because of the their front. Throwing the ball doesn’t win championships

  • @julianbashir8277
    @julianbashir8277 2 місяці тому

    Shannon got his boy a job? Lol

  • @CarlosSilva-md2kb
    @CarlosSilva-md2kb 2 місяці тому

    Sorry these pass rushers ain’t doing anything no more against these running qbs.

  • @BoomorBust
    @BoomorBust 2 місяці тому

    This is an absolutely idiotic question.

  • @Jazz-r8w
    @Jazz-r8w 2 місяці тому

    Garret nor Parson is better than TJ

  • @MikkiChavez
    @MikkiChavez 2 місяці тому

    Mad Dog made ZERO sense lol Patriots had a good DEFENSE. Not great pass rushers lmao dude really doesnt know about football at all. They had Tom freaking Brady

  • @giffondhall9214
    @giffondhall9214 2 місяці тому

    The only reason why talking about this topic because Micah is on the cover! Smh

  • @Oooyessbro
    @Oooyessbro 2 місяці тому

    Gimme Von Miller anyday

  • @trezellebtawanda6716
    @trezellebtawanda6716 2 місяці тому

    What patriotic what ?

  • @carlcombs9697
    @carlcombs9697 2 місяці тому

    Please forgive me I take everything I said I don’t want knowbody to lose. They job I’m not going to match energy with energy thanks and peace and love

  • @FirstManGaming_954
    @FirstManGaming_954 2 місяці тому +1

    He wasn't Micah or Myles but don't sleep on Richard Seymour when he was on the Patriots

  • @kliff_45
    @kliff_45 2 місяці тому

    Still wondering why mad Dogg is still relevant

    • @SportsBuilding
      @SportsBuilding 2 місяці тому +1

      Because he invented this game.
      His radio show w/Francessa arguably created sports debate culture even more than PTI.
      Mike and the Mad Dog was 5 daily hours of First Take 😂

    • @kliff_45
      @kliff_45 2 місяці тому

      @@SportsBuilding two things can be true. He’s an OG in the game but his takes/perspective are irrelevant and outdated. Sounds like a relic of the past. Case in point: His Bob Cousy takes

    • @otrmelo8064
      @otrmelo8064 2 місяці тому

      Bro mad dog Said straight facts

    • @SportsBuilding
      @SportsBuilding 2 місяці тому

      @@kliff_45 That’s the bit though. He shows up once a week with Stephen A. Smith to be the old guy and have fun

  • @carlcombs9697
    @carlcombs9697 2 місяці тому

    The most high is my my provider that’s his responsibility not men so with that being said it ain’t on yall to provide for me how I see it my bank is the bank of the most high I do not wish ill on no one I do not want to learn the way of a oppress the the most high will provide dose people may be good people and I may be taking it the wrong way because I believe everone hates me I’m sorry people I be tripping sometimes

  • @aseem9860
    @aseem9860 2 місяці тому +2

    I am the first to comment ❤

  • @thedude-nf1uf
    @thedude-nf1uf 2 місяці тому

    Ocho dropping the ball by not giving trey Hendrickson a shout out in the top edge rusher talk.
    Breaks my chillie clogged heart bro😭