@@MK-bi1hj yes, but no. The insert of it shows he's at least aware of his denial. He accepts that it happened inside, just not saying it outside 😂😂 true Smash spirit.
Kill power alone is kinda a bad argument for viability. I mean, look at Ganon and Mac. They kill insanely early but they’re easily the two worst characters in the game. Though I am of the opinion Marth is mid tier at worst. Unlike Mac and Ganon, Marth can actually set up into his kills instead of just relying on reads.
@@JosepiThe13th for me i agree as a Marth main. Kill power alone won’t help you. Really good spacing and reads will get you to be good with him. But spacing with marth takes a lot of practice and A LOT of match up knowledge (character wise). But I do think ppl rate him worse than he really is I just don’t know why dat is
Hitbox of last hit of DB is a lie. It's actually slightly bigger than the graphic implies, that's why it sometimes looks like DB should tipper but it doesn't. The real tipper hitbox is slightly outside of the visual.
That’s because the hit box and animation do no line up at all. The tipper hit box is a solid character’s width away from the animation’s tip of the sword. :/ It’s one of the most annoying things about playing marth and the reason why you have to delay last hit of dancing blade until they’re further away then you’d think they have to be.
Bro Mars is absolutely BRILLIANT.. his movement and reactions is inhuman.. while also playing completely unique with tactical options and NOT flowchart like axons
MkLeo's real name Is Leonardo He's number 1 in the rankings, a leader, if you will. Leonardo's the leader of the Ninja Turtles. Both of them have the name Leonardo. Is MkLeo a Ninja Turtle?
8:42 to 9:25 is the perfect example of why Leo plays Marth instead of Lucina. Almost every hit he makes for 40 seconds is a tipper. Freaking unreal spacing.
Tips (hehe) on DI-ing Marth's DB, if the first hits are at the base, ALWAYS DI in, you won't get hit by the tip and his sourspot can't kill. Too often I see people dying at like 50%, and it's cause they're trying to DI out of DB and get hit with terrible DI. If the first hits are at the tip, then DI out, you'll most likely fall out naturally and you'll then need to respond to whether the Marth does the final hit or not. And when I say tip, I mean the TIP, many of Marth's tipper hitboxes (F-air, B-air, F-tilt) the tipper hitbox is about the upper half of the blade give or take. But with DB, the tipper hitbox is tiny, being about the upper 8th or the blade in size but then is also displaced towards more towards the tip, meaning you're not getting hit by the tipper hitbox unless it's the very tip and a little beyond.
Well idiot normally means dumb and saying they have a brain means their smart. So it's an oxymoron meaning they cancel eachother out. Just thought I would point it out.
@Modal Soul Leo never said that. The chat just tries to start shit. Like you guys don't know Leo at all if you think he said that lmao. The whole time on stream he was casually talking to his chat and giving pointers.
@@trewilliams3044 Leo's a douchebag. He pretends to be humble. In reality hes cocky and arrogant and has excuses ready all the time. Watchibg his streams will tell you that
Seriously tho. Pro Snakes are rather aggressive (Salem and Ally) or defensive and get in when possible (Scatt and MVD) or even very tactical and tricky (Vinny G and Shogun) but Marss Snake is patient. He waits for openings or takes time to do setups. They are all so different in playstyles, and I really like how he played this one lol.
Benjamin Dunne “Masher” in this sense means that somebody is autopiloting buttons and not thinking about what they’re doing. Mashing buttons fast is different and yes, very useful.
@@Revan1207 Marss play-style might be, but ZSS isn't. Marth gets destroyed online just because tippers are already hard to space and Wi-Fi messes it up ever further. BOTH Marss and MkLeo have said this before. Spacing doesn't give you reward because of it's inconsistency. Anyone who's played Marth before knows this.
Marss reacts and custom combos based on reaction so online hurts marss a lot. Zss is still great online if you are campy but we all know Marss would not resort to that lmao
The editor needs promotion for that stages of grief idea.
And Marss has yet to reach acceptance
editing is always on point in these vids
I laughed really hard every time one of those appeared, I loved it
@@MK-bi1hj yes, but no. The insert of it shows he's at least aware of his denial. He accepts that it happened inside, just not saying it outside 😂😂 true Smash spirit.
He went through all of the trials of grief, but never got to Acceptance...
sounds like marss
Legend says he never accepted the L
Trevor Sanso
Haha yeah
“I should’ve gone DK” was his acceptance
because hes too egotistical to accept his fate.
Leo's adaptation is so insane. It seems like after 2 games he always has his opponent on lockdown
Yeah, he's always been pretty notorious for his player knowledge. That's one trait he has that makes him a cut above everyone else.
call him corona cuz he has people on lockdown
Sometimes.
mazder*;! 💀
Facts
9:10 that stock was all tippers jesus christ
Always satisfying
Marss: Marth is trash
Also Marss: *proceeds to get killed at 50*
Kill power alone is kinda a bad argument for viability. I mean, look at Ganon and Mac. They kill insanely early but they’re easily the two worst characters in the game.
Though I am of the opinion Marth is mid tier at worst. Unlike Mac and Ganon, Marth can actually set up into his kills instead of just relying on reads.
Leo can make Lil Mac look high tier
@@charlieperaltaf Lil Mac was looking high tier under zero already
@@JosepiThe13th for me i agree as a Marth main. Kill power alone won’t help you. Really good spacing and reads will get you to be good with him. But spacing with marth takes a lot of practice and A LOT of match up knowledge (character wise). But I do think ppl rate him worse than he really is I just don’t know why dat is
@@eraquscovington6576 Marth is just Lucina but you have to think, and actually lab.
Marss why does your dog sound like and old wooden door in an abandoned castle
i thought it was a dolphin
It's a gecko. I have one and it sounds exactly like that
I think it’s a tokay gecko
He said not to ask questions
I thought someone was saying pac man for the first couple times
"I am of the opinion that marth is still trash"
*like 5 seconds later*
"I was at 66 and got kill sparks!!"
I think Marth heard you. 😂
2:06 👍
At the end of the video he died at 56 damage
Marth is high tier
Nope sakurai heard
Game 4 Leo is a thing online as well!
Matthew Vella are u sure about that ua-cam.com/video/G2erPY4nLIA/v-deo.html
U get to witness game 4 Leo during best ness vs Leo in Maisters tourney but like yea it doesn’t come out during losers finals against sparg0
@@EduardoC Yes, Game 4 Leo was activated against Sonix as well
But hey that's just a theory, a SMASH theory.
Sometimes
your dog sounds like when the announcer says "PAC-MAN" 6:00
Dang it, somehow this caught me off guard lmao
IM DYING LMAOOO
I clicked this thinking huh... and then now I’m ded😂🤣😂
The dog coaching with the counter pick character. Let's go.
Marss dog sitting Tea’s dog
Marrs: he's thinking about my impressive movement.
Leo: dash attack tipper
Should’ve just ended the video after game 2 and edited it to “best of 3 vs Leo”
I do like the stages of grief your editor did. Makes me smile whenever you move up a stage lol
9:09 literally nothing but tippers until death 💀 Leo is so good wtf
so many of leo's side-Bs look like they should tipper on the final hit but they just *dont*
But then you got the other half that kill at 56 XD
I just want that move to be consistent- if it becomes so, then marth would be so much more satisfying.
Hitbox of last hit of DB is a lie. It's actually slightly bigger than the graphic implies, that's why it sometimes looks like DB should tipper but it doesn't. The real tipper hitbox is slightly outside of the visual.
@@aldoperez23 That's honestly kinda scary, he died at 42 before the hit O.o
That’s because the hit box and animation do no line up at all. The tipper hit box is a solid character’s width away from the animation’s tip of the sword. :/ It’s one of the most annoying things about playing marth and the reason why you have to delay last hit of dancing blade until they’re further away then you’d think they have to be.
3:00 Mars making history with the cleanest conversion of all time
He failed the skill check
Even with the callout
@@aldoperez23 he didn't actually say skill check it was a voice over
3:07 holy hell this is why he's top 5 on pgr
Yes
23:12 the bargain phase
Bro Mars is absolutely BRILLIANT.. his movement and reactions is inhuman.. while also playing completely unique with tactical options and NOT flowchart like axons
Marss has easily become my favorite smasher since he started with the videos
I like him because he just seems like one of the bros, like someone you'd have a beer with lol
13:04 Percents were both 100.0%
1:36 if he hit that footstool down b i would’ve screamed
Last time I was this early Marss 3-0 MKLeo in G7
After he got clapped like 10 times prior.
@@redfieldwong717 calm down he's already dead sheesh 😶
Bruh who makes your thumbnails? They did MKLeo hyper-dirty
He doesn't have many flattering pictures lol
Danny devito lol
@@raaseraphic Honestly they could have used a screenshot from Hot Juans, he was cool af in that
It s his face 😂 you can t change that
Dirty? That's his cosplay lol
Damn that Leo dude is pretty good at the game, he should start going to tournaments
I heard he might be at the MKolosseum tournament tomorrow
*Bait has been set*
MichaelUpTop The bomb has been planted
Marss Catchphrases:
“Unlucky (lol)”
“TRUECOMBOE”
_“Skill check-“_
“ZSS Sux”
“It might be a 10-0 you never know”
Do you know who are playing against, sir?
8:10 massive props to the editor rofl
MkLeo's real name Is Leonardo
He's number 1 in the rankings, a leader, if you will.
Leonardo's the leader of the Ninja Turtles.
Both of them have the name Leonardo.
Is MkLeo a Ninja Turtle?
Nobody:
My thoughts right before I go to sleep:
For your information, Raphael is the leader of the group transformed from the norm by the nuclear goop.
More like Mikey took Leo's name for his username
Hence MkLeo 0_0
Yo starting at 9:09 Leo took that whole stock with just tippers
23:16
Smash crowd chants “WHAT THA F*CK!” at Leo.. I’m with them
Zss vs marth was cool. Who could have thought watching two mid tiers could be this hype?
ZSS mid tier? She is easily one of the worst characters. Ask Top players like Marss.
Zss is top tier.
@@Pm3m_Dia Or ESAM, or Leo who thinks she is top 10.
@@zsoliddanys1083 ESAM and Leo are clearly joking and you fell for it.
@@Pm3m_Dia Nah, you fell for Marss' memable propaganda, nobody with a brain buys it anymore.
That sequence with the stun whatever foot stool down air etc was insane
The second game with two stocks a piece, the down throw to grenade to forward aerial as a sick ass combo
3:07 and 4:30 😎
Lol the first five games were a classic demonstration of the “Leo being down 2-0 in a set” stat
Marss: Any move in the game would have killed.
Little Mac aerials: Once again we walk alone.
17:45 I was so sad that that didn’t work
I love playing Marth, it teaches me how to properly space so I can transfer that to other characters that need it like Ike or Puff
"I literally saw it happen" playing with your eyes open is cheating
When you're playing against Leo you HAVE to keep your eyes open.
Chase LaRocque and when ur playing Marth who goes “keep your eyes open”
Can we just apprecciate the moment when they both hit perfect 100.0% at 13:03
8:42 to 9:25 is the perfect example of why Leo plays Marth instead of Lucina. Almost every hit he makes for 40 seconds is a tipper. Freaking unreal spacing.
9:10 - 9:27
A 0-death with only tippers holy shit
Not a 0 to death but ok
@@zack10291029 whoops forgot the explosion
Fatality is officially a trend
Didn’t know fatality invented first to 10s
Storable - Gaming for smash during quarantine, yes
Erik M. That’s still not true. Many top players do FT10 for YT content, for example ESAM. Not limited to just him though, it’s a pretty common format
But it’s become more popular recently because of Fatality
You’re a dumb dumb
Tips (hehe) on DI-ing Marth's DB, if the first hits are at the base, ALWAYS DI in, you won't get hit by the tip and his sourspot can't kill. Too often I see people dying at like 50%, and it's cause they're trying to DI out of DB and get hit with terrible DI. If the first hits are at the tip, then DI out, you'll most likely fall out naturally and you'll then need to respond to whether the Marth does the final hit or not.
And when I say tip, I mean the TIP, many of Marth's tipper hitboxes (F-air, B-air, F-tilt) the tipper hitbox is about the upper half of the blade give or take. But with DB, the tipper hitbox is tiny, being about the upper 8th or the blade in size but then is also displaced towards more towards the tip, meaning you're not getting hit by the tipper hitbox unless it's the very tip and a little beyond.
You better be going for style this FT10
18:00 marss gets a shuffle time
A fellow man of culture
these 2 play faster than i can think
Ah, i missed Leo's Marth so much, such a beautiful sight.
marss editing underrated
MKLeo is so perfect. His spacing, his inputs, his mindset is just 👌.
He's like a final boss or if the CPU had a level 10.
Keep up the content! Who ever edits ur videos are hilarious and doing a great job!!
Leo’s marth really got him to 10 wins. That’s pretty cool.
@3:07 if that had setup a kill I probably would've screamed.
That last stock on game 6 was fucking sweet by Leo. 6 sweet spots in a row to death? Love to see it
Marss just reminds me of that one guy, you know what I’m sayin?
Leo is cold blooded. The way he takes a game or two to feel out his opponent, and then unleash his godlike wrath is cold
Nah, its not like that at all.
Ok never mind dany said it isn't like that, delete your comment
his godlike Marth*
I love how Marss both belittles him and compliments him at the same time
6:10 what the HELL is goin on here man my tiny brain no understand all I know is zss sux this too complicated
He shmoovin
B reversing, that’s about it
Instant Z Catch Grenade Wavebounce
Great to come back and watch this. Lol. We need another first to 10 with y’all boys
THAT COMBO AT 3:09 !!
8:09
"Not every stage spike is a skill-check"
You're right. It's just the ones that you can anticipate for a full 2 seconds...
marss i didnt know you were such a good zss cosplayer
Watching Leo make the right read on snake down throw to get out of disadvantage over and over against Marss of all people was absolutely wild
Snake down throw is just slightly more advanced Rock Paper Scissors
Good to see marss actually win a couple games!
3:06 4:30 ok..WHAT! lol, I see grenade combos into aerials, but this was like a Byleth combo where they bounce and you combo off the bounce
that was a dog?!?!?!?!
a very scaly one, yes
"This idiot has a brain" -Marss 2020 19:06
Wdym
Well idiot normally means dumb and saying they have a brain means their smart. So it's an oxymoron meaning they cancel eachother out. Just thought I would point it out.
@@StudioEnergizerMV I meant whatever you were saying before the edit something about hacking
@@shyarusu7755 Oh I said that as a joke because I didn't know what to comment. Then I found something to comment about.
Snake is so cool. It’s awesome how marss always plays such hype characters and never camps
17:20 “did he just walk up slowly and up smash”
11:53 I love when leo do that bruh
Man that spacing from game 1 was insane
3:40
The 'hehehehe Nooooooo' killed me
22:50 Feels bad man ZSS Sux
“Genesis 2nd place DI”
8:43
If you go slow-mo, it looks like marths crescent slash from Sm4sh.
The stages of grief edits were on point lmao, props
That death at 56 as the ending was really the cherry on top
I don't know why but everything that Marss says is hilarious to me
Do you always fish for clips with Snake or is that just how the character is played?
when things go right with snake everything looks cool tbh
Marss: "Bootleg rng ass character, I died to that"
Me: "Wait I don't see hero anywhere?"
22:51 is the best part of the video
Leo said he’s a masher? This man is mashing the do nothing button in these Snake games
Top mashing level
Ikr, I think he was just tilted that Marss had some shmixups the first few games
@Modal Soul Leo never said that. The chat just tries to start shit. Like you guys don't know Leo at all if you think he said that lmao.
The whole time on stream he was casually talking to his chat and giving pointers.
@@trewilliams3044 Leo's a douchebag. He pretends to be humble. In reality hes cocky and arrogant and has excuses ready all the time. Watchibg his streams will tell you that
@@darkhome Damn. What did he say?
This is one if the cleanest snakes I’ve ever seen
Exciting games!
Don't know who edits these but the Grief Graph punchline was incredible.
also who writes those descriptions
Marss and Alpharad's editor twitter.com/ultimashadowx?lang=en
Cheers, man.
Leo said that his Snake was mashing? Leo smoking some shit 'cause Marss plays the most patient Snake I've ever seen.
Seriously tho. Pro Snakes are rather aggressive (Salem and Ally) or defensive and get in when possible (Scatt and MVD) or even very tactical and tricky (Vinny G and Shogun) but Marss Snake is patient. He waits for openings or takes time to do setups. They are all so different in playstyles, and I really like how he played this one lol.
You know that mashing gets you out of grabs quicker, right? It's a good thing to be a good masher
Benjamin Dunne “Masher” in this sense means that somebody is autopiloting buttons and not thinking about what they’re doing. Mashing buttons fast is different and yes, very useful.
21:26 Bruh I’m pretty sure ZSS up-b would kill any character there at 118%.. regardless of DI. And especially Marth 😂
You’d be surprised
It wouldn't kill, Leo just didn't di down
the persona 4 victory theme while he’s t-bagging *chef’s kiss*
Omg!...When Leo sliced that homing missile to get back on stage safely!
Hey Marss! I think it'd be dope if you reviewed another set of yours!
I wish you would of uploaded the entire match, definitely would of watched the whole thing.
How is it possible to be this insanely good at smash? Mkleo is just... something else
8:50 the up b hit the mid of the the stage 0.0
Why don’t smash players tend to hop on discord or a party chat of some sort whenever they play each other?
Zss sux online. Too precise. Lag hurts.
Marss needs an online main. Even leo doesn't play Joker online. You always see him playing byleth, marth, etc.
@Bidoof Bro not even remotely close. Marth has massive safe Aerials where spacing them gives you extra reward, he's not remotely hard to play online
Bidoof Bro imagine having such a weak arguement that you can't even answer the facts he said and you decide to focus on the insult.
@@Revan1207 Marss play-style might be, but ZSS isn't. Marth gets destroyed online just because tippers are already hard to space and Wi-Fi messes it up ever further. BOTH Marss and MkLeo have said this before. Spacing doesn't give you reward because of it's inconsistency. Anyone who's played Marth before knows this.
Marss reacts and custom combos based on reaction so online hurts marss a lot. Zss is still great online if you are campy but we all know Marss would not resort to that lmao
This comments section in cringey.
Why isn't Marth in the thumbnail?
Dude when the skill check audio came in I thought I had a heart attack
He looks so serious while playing the matches.. so cool
Marss is hilarious! Great job to both of you
Leo is basically the only person in the whole world who marss respects