Why Isn't Wales Represented on the British Flag?
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- The Union Flag is the flag of the United Kingdom and represents the constituent nations of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. However, the flags that went into making it, England's St George's Cross, Scotland's St Andrew's Cross, and Ireland's St Patrick's Cross leave Wales unrepresented. So why isn't there a Welsh element to the British flag?
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Your music is a little too loud over your voice. Nevertheless good video!
but the music is fire though
Yeah I’m struggling to hear you over the music and I want to turn it up to hear you properly but can’t cause it’ll make the music too loud
yes, especially in the latter half of the video it was a bit hard to understand his voice
@@shawnv123. I believe some people are more inclined to hear background sound than others. When I began teaching high school in the US, my supervising teacher couldn’t understand my distraction from noise in the classroom. I could hear the background noise as clearly as I could hear my students’ voices. I had to have my hearing checked because she believed that my hearing was faulty (at 22 yo.) Extensive, professional testing found that I have incredible acuity at all ranges, making my hearing far better than hers. I went on to become a high school teacher (in the classroom adjacent to hers) who had to learn to ignore extraneous noise. 😮
The music is an issue for me too. Maybe you have excellent hearing acuity too! 😊
Hey Hilbert! Gread vid but just a small note you should consider rising up the volume of your voice recoring and lowering the music, which at some points is louder than you (min 6:00). Very interesting stuff as always tho :)
I think the best way to do this (from purely a prettiness standpoint) would be to make the red on the bottom half of the Union Jack green, like the grass on the Welsh flag, but the grass isn’t exactly the centrepoint of the flag. The thing is, the dragon, while it’s nice, is quite a complicated design, and it would be hard to incorporate it into the simple geometric design of the Union Jack.
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I say just stick the dragon on the Union flag, dragons make everything cooler.
Just plonk the dragon in the middle. Complicated? Maybe. Awesome? Definitely.
Replace the Scottish blue with Welsh white and green. I'd take the opportunity to make the Irish saltire symmetrical, so people fly it right.
The version with the dragon in the center of by far the best. I feel the addition of yellow to the flag constrasts poorly and the red dragon is more widely associated with Wales than Saint David flag. Plus having a dargon on your flag is just really cool.
Dargon right!
And it would be the most legitimate as Wales is the only British founded nation. Whereas England are Anglo. And the Scots are Originally from Ireland. All are geographically British, but only Wales are culturally British.
nah. the yellow cross looks best. having a dragon makes ot seems like wales is the most important part of the uk. it's not, unfortunately
I might upset some people, but the yellow/gold gives the British flag a piss colour. And why wouldn't we want a cool dragon design on our British flag?
I like that, but I also like the lack yellow and red Union Jack as well
I grew up on the English/Welsh border and remember being asked to draw favourite flags in school. My dragon looked like a sunburned puppy.
For real. You need an art degree to properly replicate the welsh flag.
Lucky you had the right to fly your flag..in Ireland the British government made it illegal for nationalist people to fly the tricolor
@@jackietreehorn5561 kk. But we're taking about Wales. Keep your weird Irish victim complex to yourself please.
Being a Llewellyn myself, I certainly miss Wales representation and that Dragon in the center is the greatest.
James the first of England was James the sixth of Scotland, not the fourth. 🤦
I blame those pesky Roman numerals
Hamish VI
I was surprised and figured I mixed up
Yes he seemed to hesitate, but still got it wrong!
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minor correction, James I of England was James VI of Scotland, not IV. thanks, I love your videos
Hello Hilbert. To be in keeping with the design, the yellow St David's cross would be more appropriate, despite the dragon being a great flag for Wales. Otherwise, you could say the red dragon is already there, right in the middle, but camouflaged. You could also argue that St. Patrick was Welsh.
It was James VI of Scotland by the way.
Back when Wales was conquered, it was really by the Normans. They had brought Bretons with them, and they saw the conquest in 1066 as restoring their homeland. An Alan from Britanny was the ancestor of the Stewart kings. See Scotland History Tours for details. I suggested before that it would be great if you did a collaboration with Bruce from that channel? He is doing a stand up tour and he asked in comments if I would be going to his Newcastle performance for us English types, but I am sure a Geordie Frisian would be welcome.
St Davids flag isn't at all used in Wales. The Welsh people wouldn't view it as representation of their culture. That's the most important thing that people seen to miss
@@Stettafire Official state flags represent the state, not the people. I know that the Welsh are famous, like Cornwall people for chapel not church, but the UK government generally sticks to formality in such matters, so I made an assumption based on that.
The red, yellow and black version of the flag should seek medical attention urgently.
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When the UK goes fully Evil, that will be our flag.
Would be a great flag if the UK ever becomes a puppet state of Germany or Belgium
it looked like someone spilled their coffee onto the flag
Its a shame because Wales’ flag is so cool
Yes it is and I'm part Wales so it is a shame
I love the welsh flag and I mean no offense to anybody, but I can't imagine a design where the Welsh dragon looks nice on the Union Jack. Both flags are spectacular and figuring out a design that compliments the Union Jack and incorporates Wales is a grand challenge
@@mihangelap-williams9871 This doesn't have to be political, but Wales is a part of this union whether you personally support it or not. I also know many Welsh that would like Welsh representation on the Union Jack. As for the real Welsh that "didn't sign up to it" they have been deceased for centuries. So it may help you to draw a line somewhere closer to time than to froth over emotions that haven't existed for a super long time.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 I’m with you, bro. I’d rather have independence than be represented on their flag.
@@RoachChaddjr Welsh flag looks kl and the Union flag looks kl but combining them together would create a monstrosity.
I'm not Welsh but without a shadow of a doubt the Welsh have the single coolest flag in the world imo.
I would say
Bosnia and Herzegovina have the coolest looking flag.
And The Bavarian flag is up there aswell.
In terms of Wales I would like to see the flag of Saint David with the dragon in the centre of the cross.
I agree but I feel sorry for Welsh schoolkids having to draw the flag in class as it is tough to draw.
@@v.sandrone4268 not draw, in a coloring in book
Alongside bhutanese flag ;)
A dragon on it would be epic
Hey Hilbert, love your stuff…could you turn music volume down?
Just discovering your channel, it's pure gold ! Thank you for all your work
Important fact not mentioned. Wales was considered part of England until (if memory serves) 1872, when it was made its own constituent country of the United Kingdom. That likely had something to do with the desire to represent Wales on the flag now compared to back in the old days.
I personally like the yellow cross version of the Union Flag. Another idea I'm quite fond of is replacing the blue with green.
On your bike the blue
of Saint Andrew is going nowhere pal.
Hell will freeze over first.
He did mention it actually. The Laws of Wales by Henry VIII. Traitor to his people by banning the use of Welsh in official situations. At least Liz I allowed us to have a Bible in Welsh, which was one up on him, but even she let her politicians run roughshod over her own ancestry.
Enough Welsh men have fought under the Union flag to make it as much ours as any other British
It would be more accurate to say English people have fought under Welsh and Scottish monarchs.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 Call it what you want Welshmen still fought under it. The Welsh voted for Brexit remember. So we know what the WE want!
yea but it’d make the flag look really ugly
@@mihangelap-williams9871 Your not that deep if you think Wales could succeed as an independent country. Fortunately the Yes Cymru clowns are not taken serious by anyone, but then again why would they be.
@@nre1553 Yo Saes, Iceland have a tenth of Wales' population and have a better standard of living than the whole of the UK. Ireland only has one million more people than Wales and is now classed as one of the richest countries on the planet. Plus its you English that are 3 trillion in debt. Once we leave, we have nothing to do with YOUR DEBT. Also start paying us for all those natural resources you steal off us you colonising thieves. The English are nothing without the Celtic nations. You are 3 trillion in debt and are desperate for Scotland and Wales to subsidise you because you can't survive without us. If we are such a drain on you Saes then get out and leave us alone. You worry about your sht, we'll worry about ours.
As a british person from England but with a lot of Scottish ansitory I would love to see the Welsh dragon incorporated into the union flag. It's a cool flag by itself.
If someone's only reason for wanting my nation's flag on the Union Flag is because it, 'looks cool', and not because they appreciate the people, history, culture and language (7vowels, btw), then i definitely don't want Cymru's flag on the UF.
Also, even if Scotland and N.I. leave, I'm pretty sure we'd end up keeping the current UF because... brand recognition. Also can't see the flag getting the Cymric update unless England finds itself having to do some proper groveling.
There's parts of england that are as britonic as Wales is.
@@willgibbons1733 and…?
They should just add in the dragon in the middle of the Union Jack it makes the flag looks awesome
Goes against the rules of flags.
@@danielkrcmar5395 Bhutan has a dragon in their flag...
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Were we looking at the same thing? It looks awful just copied and pasted on top of the Union Jack
I think the best way would just to be to take the bottom blue part and turn it green
If you have a chance to put a dragon on your flag and you don't take it, you're nuts.
Just a note, near the end the music really picks up and gets loud and I was genuinely having difficulty hearing you. 😅
6:55 - Strictly speaking, you wouldn't have the yellow saltire because that's just flood filling St. Andrew's saltire. It would just be the arms of a solid red saltire.
Welsh flag is too badass compared to the others
Music too loud. Couldn't follow part of narration.
Impressive video, but you should work on the sound quality. Thank you. Subscribed.
James I of England was James VI of Scotland, not James IV. Otherwise, good work, Hilbert!
Recently read about the history of James 1 and VI when he became king of the whole of Britain including a mention of a Scottish version of the Jack in which the saltire overlaid the cross of St George, used by the Scottish navy for centuries.
I'm actually a little surprised that Wales retained enough of it's own identity such that this discussion makes sense. There are plenty of examples in European history where a territory was conquered or acquired by a larger neighbor and became subsumed into the larger over time. (Not making a value judgement here.)
Just slap the Dragon in the middle and call it a day my dudes.
Man, if they did that, that flag would be so epic awesome!
hilbert i love you too much not to be able to hear you, turn that music down and your mic UP. All love from here
6:57 that looks awesome
Not much interest in the Union flag(always fly the Dragon) but would be more than happy to see the Driag coch take over from the lower quartering on the royal arms.
Yes that would be good especially now we have the former prince of wales as the king.
Do you consult with Sheldon Cooper for the flag videos?
Why's your audio so bad?
I like the yellow cross on the current flag as a design. The dragon would be really hard to see in comparison.
I've long been of the opinion they need to slap that dragon on there. I'm not even Welsh, but I do love Wales, spent many family holidays there as a child. But mainly having the dragon on the UK flag would just be awesome.
6:13 Oh so THAT'S what the Union Jack in Watchdogs Legion means!
The Welsh dragon inthe centre of the Union flag makes most sense. Good rhat you correctly refer to the 'Union flag' and not 'jack' as so many folk do. The jack refers to the jackstaff on board an RN ship, a short flagstaff reserved for the Union flag.
not because jack is another word for "james" ie union james... aka union jack?
True, but Union Jack is very common usage thanks to the power of the British Navy historically so in common speech either is acceptable.
The term 'Union Jack' has been used officially on land and sea for over a 100 years! It's only recently pedants like the BBC decided this was 'wrong'.
That's not true. Jack is the name for King James, and the flag is always known as the Union Jack no matter whether it's on land or sea. It is equally called the union flag also, but calling it the Jack is always perfectly correct.
Having that white box around the dragon makes it look like a child copied and pasted it on, it looks awful. Adding the yellow in around St George’s Cross looks much better, even if I still don’t think we should change our flag.
Also, as everyone else has said, either jack or flag are acceptable
Swap blue for black, most aesthetically pleasing way of doing it
the one with scotland replaced with st davids cross looks like a war banner like your watch the retern of the king and at the charge of rhohirim sort of thing
Interesting video. However, I kept losing what you were saying and started following the music on more than one occasion. Is it just me or is your "background" music as loud as you? Reducing the gain on the music would have solved that for me.
The Dragon is a magnificent emblem but I do like the St David's Cross option.
Correction. James I of England was also James VI of Scotland, not James IV of Scotland. James IV of Scotland was the great grandfather of James I/James VI.
Poor Welsh, always called foreigners in their own country.
Anglo-Saxon/Old English for “Foreigner”, is “Útlande” (“Outlander”) not “Wealla/Weallisc” (“Welsh”)…
@@Excommunicated-ei1ep Weird, eh?
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Yep…
Worse still - the actual foreigners call their flag British.
@@WalesTheTrueBritons
Which Útlande is that?
Dude I love your content but the music is so loud I can barely hear what you're saying together with the sound quality from your mic being not very good. I'm a long time subscriber but it really needs to be said at some point, keep it up!!
I emailed you Union Jack with Welsh Dragon on it.
It is represented, the red diagonals in the cross band is the flag of St David.
I think adding a gold cross in the middle of the St Georges cross would be a better design
The Welsh emblem at the centre would look beautiful
No it wouldn’t. Independence for the British (Welsh) people
No, wales is already covered by the English flag, since wales is, by right of conquest, English clay.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 all I hear are copes and mental gymnastics, wales is ruled by London.
@@mihangelap-williams9871 ah yes more copes ‘just you wait, you won’t rule us much longer, just two more weeks’
No buddy, your vassal state belongs to us, time for you to make peace with that and quit huffing that copium.
Wales wasn’t conquered by England! Wales is a part of English law because Henry viii annexed it….after his Father beat England at the battle of Bosworth field 1485.
I like the idea of the red dragon in the center, but I also like the black of the other flag minus the yellow and make it white or also red then you would have a flag similar to the movie V for Vendetta.
I’ve always said we should elevate the status of the Isle of Man just so we can sneak a metal armoured dragon onto the Union Jack
At this point you can actually google these shower thoughts after so many years
Everyone is forgetting about Cornwall
As a Welshman, I always have and always will absolutely HATE the Union Jack. I simply cannot believe the British government has not changed the Jack so that we are represented on the flag. Moreover, the Irish part of the flag is defunct because the ROI is a sovereign state, and people in NI don’t recognise it as their flag either. Basically it’s a total shit show. Wales football fans regularly burn the Union Jack (as I have done). Essentially, the UJ has remained the same because the English don’t give a flying f*** about us!
Me too. I'd be do easy to fix too. New flag. Split it into quadrants. then each quadrant contains the respective flags, simple!
Man, if they did that, that flag would be so epic awesome and would more complete! It just feels like something is missing on the current flag.
These are the only Flags that matter:
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Saint Patrick’s saltire and the Ulster banner. Interestingly the latter two are not available!!
Am I having a deja vu moment, haven't I already seen this video? Also lower the damn background music so that I can hear what youre saying
Independent Wales, the union doesn’t work anymore and has never really been a fair union for Wales
Can we turn down the music a bit next time. It was good, but distracting in the beginning and I could barely hear what you were saying.
The Dragon on the middle of the Union Jack was pretty sweet.
Oh dear - James the first of England was James the SIXTH of Scotland, not the fourth, and although he wanted a combined flag, the one that you show didn't come into existence until the Act of Union in 1707
Because Cymru has its OWN FLAG and doesn’t want to be on the Saisnegs flag!!
But you will proudly stay under its boot
The Union Jack would look so much cooler with a dragon in the center of it 🐉
@@mihangelap-williams9871 ( I have no control over what flag y’all use I just like dragons )
I think Wales should be represented in both the flag and the royal standard. As it is, it makes Wales look like an irrelevant afterthought. Personally I like the flag with St David's cross incorporated because the dragon is too different from the crosses of the other flags to look comfortable. But at this point I'd settle for anything rather than have Wales just be ignored. Definitely the dragon should be part of the royal standard, though.
I think inclusion on the flag would solidify us visually as our own natuon in the United Kingdom. I'm not personally a unionist but incorporating us is a good step toward seeing us as equal. Personally much like many people I identify my culture with the Welsh flag since its the one that includes the foundations of our identity and the union flag feels more like it overthrows that identity.
They have no legal authority to do so…that why it’s hardly ever brought up.
You summed up how I feel very well.
The UK flag is just too perfect. Perhaps a stylised Welsh dragon specifically made for the flag would do, or just not make a square background for the dragon.
I would say that the Welsh flag is just to perfect.
maybe even an addded canton with something that represents Wales within it
3:32 James VI of Scotland
The dragon would be too OP
i think that the 2 first designs are very nice
Errata: James 1st in England was 6th in Scotland - not 4th (misread the Roman VI?)
People who just recolour the blue of the Union Jack thinking they've replaced Scotland miss a key element - notice that the St Patrick's Cross is not symmetrical. This is because the thicker white diagonal fimbration is from the St Andrew's Cross to denote Scottish seniority in the Union over Ireland/Northern Ireland! To truly remove the St Andrew's Cross you'd need to make the St Patrick’s Cross symmetrical.
On a similar note, fancy doing one on the Northern Ireland flag?
There is no "seniority in the Union" as there is, in fact, no Union. What was created in 1707 was a new nation - that of GB - not a union.
@@Alan_Mac I suggest you read Nick Groom's book 'The Union Jack' about the meaning of the thicker fimbration.
And better tell everyone there is "no union", probably come as a bit of a shock to nationalists and unionists alike. The name of the flag is even the "Union Flag" or "Union Jack", and it's literally the name of it and the Acts of UNION.
@@Cyberbeagle1000 The "nationalists vs unionists" patter is a direct import by Scottish partitionists. The terms may have meaning in NI but certainly don't, historically, in Britain.
And, of course, what was created in 1707 was a new nation. You only have to read the opening para of the AoU to grasp that. Which is why it was called the United Kingdom of GB and not United Kingdoms.
Not only was a new nation created but the parties to the treaty - the parliaments of Scotland and England - were subsumed into a new entity - the parliament of Great Britain.
So, yes, people do talk about The Union but in doing so are showing their ignorance and lack of understanding of what actually happened in 1707. We're a unitary nation-state, not a union.
@@Alan_Mac so you're saying Scottish and Welsh nationalists don't exist?
And of course it's a ruddy union. You're confusing Union = Federation.
Now please go away.
@@Cyberbeagle1000 I'm not confusing anything. Britain is a unitary state wherein Westminster is sovereign. This is beyond question and was reinforced by the UK Supreme Court in Nov 2022.
That you are ignorant of your own country's constitutional settlement should be a major embarrassment to you so I suggest you try and improve your understanding to stop making an arse of yourself again.
1282, most of Wales occupied. 1284, Welsh Principality (Gwynedd) Formed. 1409, Welsh autonomy resored by Owain Glyndwr. 1415, Owain Glyndwr goes into Hiding with the British Crown. 1485, Wales conquer England at the Battle of Bosworth Field. 1536-42, Wales Annexed to England by the English born Welsh Tudor Henry VIII because he lacked the Crown of the Britons that could have unified both Kingdoms legally. The fact it was annexed proves it’s autonomy.
And Welsh standards of living only increased thanks to fellow welshman henry VIII and his great intergration into english law. god bless that man. only numbskull nationalists would pine for the dark ages and discount the enlightenment.
I'm Welsh and I don't care.
I think a union jack but the white in the bottom half replace with green might look good.
Actually, James Stuart was James VI of Scotland, not James IV. (3:38)
The dragon in the middle would be awsome
It's on the back, no one ever thinks to look on the otherside
James VI of Scotland. That's a 6.
Just a lil tip, DD in welsh is a th. So Gwynedd is "Gywn e th"
The version that incorporates the dragon is hands down the best.
@@mihangelap-williams9871, how about a sheep, then?
I'd hold out on making any changes to the Union Jack for now. Let's see how the next couple of years plays out in Ireland and Scotland...
Why? Scottish independence is dead in the water and there's no possibility of a united Ireland in anyone's lifetime.
@@Alan_Mac I think that arrogant and entitled opinion is exactly the reason why it might become relevant far earlier than you think.
@@Emanon... Eh? The Nationalist movement in Scotland is a fragmented, rudderless, strategy-free mess and its counterpart in NI has barely gained more votes now than it did 25 years ago.
There is nothing 'entitled' about pointing this out so don't be a supercilious wee fanny.
@@Emanon... It's an opinion. That's what the comment section is for!
@@rogink Of course!
But a bit of empathy towards the "lesser" Union members would probably go a long way in keeping it together. Trust, loyalty and respect needs to be continuously earned, not demanded. A fact England seems to increasingly forget. Just another opinion, of course.
Why bother? In a few years time England will be on its own.
Mate, the dissolving of the union won’t come from the Scottish or the Irish let alone the Welsh… it will come from us English… and England is the only one who will benefit the most from it… Fact!.
Please lower the volume on the distracting music.
the old flag of just England and Scotland, with a dragon ornament on top of pole.
James the I of England was VI not IV of Scotland
Given the stated reason for the current flag, making an alteration for Wales is a slippery slope IMO. It seems like populist whataboutism.
Wales was conquered and incorporated into England, whereas Scotland and England joined up as equal partners to form the United Kingdom. After the devolution in 1999, Scotland was granted a parliament while Wales was only granted an assembly, lower in legislative powers.
The old flag of Great Britain is prettier than the current Union Jack.
Whats going to happen to the Union Jack when there is A United Ireland and An Independent Scotland ???? 🇮🇪🏴
United Ireland's not going to happen anythime soon unionists still hold the sway in NI by a mile
@@michael3088 im afraid its you who is wrong by a mile. In the last cenus of 2021, for the first time ever in the occupied Six counties, Catholics outnumber Protestants . In the last elections More people voted for Nationalists parties than Unionists parties. The great catalyst for A United Ireland was Brexit, since then there was a record number of Unionists applying for Irish Passports as they still want to be part of the EU. A large number of these Unionists are often referred to as ( Soft Unionists ) , which means they would vote for A United Ireland if it would benefit themselves and their families, e.g being part of the EU. So a United Ireland has never being closer.🇮🇪☘
@@michaelfoley9904 Its too iconic at this point I think they will just keep it as it its design wise
@@michaelfoley9904that’s nice of you all to create a unites Ireland to leave behind for the African immigrants aka the new Irish
We should put a dragon in the middle of the Union Jack, and it should be facing out of the flag and breathing fire. It should look like Smaug. That would be awesome.
Wales is represented, by the Cross of St George in exactly the same way as Cornwall, Northumbria, Mercia etc are. The Union flag represents the acts of Union between Ireland, Scotland and England, which included Wales. The current flag is a design classic and it would be criminal to mess with it. Indeed if Scotland left, I think we would keep it as it is. If only to infuriate the sorts of Nationalists who would get exercised over the English using "their" flag.
6:36 - If Scotland had voted to be independent in 2014, the British monarch would’ve still been their Head of State, the same as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
That’s not how independence works🙄
@@rutgerw. - That’s what the vote was about. Independence from the British Government; not the British Crown. Even the SNP said the Queen (now King) would still be their Head of State.
@@JediSimpson And they want to rejoin the EU too and still call it independence😂🤣😅
The monarchs of England are German. Not English, not Scottish, and Not British (Welsh).
@@WalesTheTrueBritonsThey aren’t German anymore. Elizabeth II was probably the first monarch that was more so disconnected from their German heritage. But Chalres and certainly William and his kids can’t be called German in any sense of the word.
Also they were Germans from
Hannover, which is where the Anglo-Saxons originally came from, so funnily enough you could argue they were more English than any Norman nobles ;)
Great informative video, it has a lot of information which is useless for me. nevertheless I like it. Thank you
I prefer the first two but not the third. Also would all of the countries that have the Union Jack in their top left corner have to change it as well if it does change?
The one with the dragon would be a decent compromise.
James I of England was James VI of Scotland, not IV. James IV was his great grandpa
Because it’s our flag and you can’t have it!
Bydd Cymru yn annibynnol eto!
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I'm English. But how awesome to have the Welsh Dragon on the flag. Considering they fight in all our wars. 🇬🇧💜
The “it’s been incorporated into England” explanation often said itsnt quote correct: It’s because wales isn’t a kingdom and hasn’t been for 1000 years, it’s a principality. Scotland and Ireland are kingdoms.
European symbology is big on this kind of hierarchy.
The Principality of Wales never covered the entirety of Wales. In reality it was only ever Gwynedd!