The Hassan/Kapani story is really sad. The dude was being projected for two main event programs but then the writing decided to get actually racist at the worst possible time. Dude got blacklisted for doing as asked unlike everyone else here
Copani likes to tell the story that he got screwed over, but it was his poor attitude backstage that got him fired. He was lazy in OVW, and he was uncooperative with his WWE storylines, always getting in arguments with creative. He was released because he wasn’t giving the company a return in their investment.
I think WWE would of brought him in as a new character. But he hated the character that was put on him and the way things went. Yes, he was let go and they should of told him they would bring him back under a new character but they didn't. And he admitted in a rare interview he really didn't want to come back. That the schedule was too difficult. Many don't get how much these wrestlers go through.
Vince did the same thing to "Dr D" David Schultz back in the 80s: canned and blackballed him for doing his job. Note how WWE still doesn't mention his name
Not only that, Del Rio is pretty much blacklisted from nearly every major wrestling company due to his poor attitude, criminal record, and his habit of no-showing events. I think he wrestles in underground companies these days
Usually you can't get a job in an industry if you no showed. So underground being his family birthday parties, with the green bastard from parts unknown
It's kind of sad since all charges against him were dropped. Yet it sounds like everything you said will keep him out of the limelight for the rest of his career.
He’s got a couple matches coming up in AAA(biggest promotion in Mexico). It’s not long term and it’s for a tournament for second and third generation wrestlers.
And yet still full of nonsense, since the WWE never outright bans anybody and everybody ultimately returns if there's money to be made (the sole exceptions may be David Schultz and Kevin Wacholz)
To be fair, as hard as they pushed Mark as Hussain, there's literally no way they could have tried to package him as something else. Sometimes you can do your job TOO well.
yes ,the proble is USA pseudo fans ..........wwe dont defens the wrestler etc.........stupid usa fans try to kill whant kill etc....Hassan (caracter name). One is the carrier different in real life ! most fans and usa fan dont think this is a show !the real family fro hassan have problem to !
Blame americans crying cause of the twin towers stuff.All the conservative america F yeah more wars in the middle east types came out the woodworks crying even tho they don't watch wrestling.
Muhammed Hassan got a raw deal. He was only doing what they wrote for him, and he doesn’t decide what gets to air at any given time. They could have just changed his gimmick, that really sucks what happened to him.
Hassan was supposed to become the World Heavyweight Champion in 2005 and defeat Batista, at Summerslam. Can you imagine just how much nuclear heat his character would've gotten, had he pinned Batista?
@jimbean1468 At his age during that time and with his work ethic? Absolutely it would've been a great long term investment had it went through. He had the psychology down, his work was finely polished and he didn't have to be big and fast, like Brock. Basically what Orton got over Benoit the previous year, Hassan's push would've been longer at least until WrestleMania. It would've brought tv ratings, ticket sales just to see him get beat. Long term storytelling at it's finest and the payoff would've been sweet.
@jimbean1468 I'm a worker in the business, I know better than the rest of the dumbass smarks out there who are being worked by the dirtsheets anyways. Even the best workers are green when put into a spot. It was Batista, Orton, Steve Austin, Macho Man, Flair, Fujinami, Jumbo Suruta, I could go on. Know your history before having a quick witted reaction because like a high spot, that last comment of yours had no structure.
I don’t think so, everywhere he goes he becomes a cancer in the locker room and his biggest problem for wwe is his incident he had with Roman Reigns who is WWE’s main guy now and as long as Roman is there Enzo probably won’t be.
Probably, but then the fans would be cheering for a drug addict loser....I think he did the right thing by making a scene...when he was high on nose candy, he wouldn't have done it if he was sober
Heel means he's acting ...when it's real life that makes you a cut throat business man who will fire you for doing what he told you to do. He's a piece of chit not a heel, you know the difference right? Or have you lost the ability to tell the difference between tv and reality?
Hassan got a little big headed too though. He tried to tell Eddie not to do the camel clutch because it was his move. Didnt even know that his dad invented the move lol
I can't imagine doing what's right for business and taking the heat for something that wasn't your decision, and your reward for it being shown the door. Crazy.
I believe Enzo's problem was that he couldnt separate his character, from his actual personality, and ended up rubbing a lot of guys in the back the wrong way, and is how he got himself alienated from the lockeroom. he was good on the mic, but in in-ring work wasnt amazing, and didnt justify keeping him around. perhaps if he would of humbled himself and learned to get along with people in the back better, he could of had a longer career as a mouthpiece or manager.
Rene Dupree's downfall was multiple things. He started young, 19 young, so he couldnt risk standing up for himself because of the fear of getting fired. One time, Rene said in his podcast, after he worked he matched, Vince came from behind him and patted him on the back and said, "Great things are going to happen to you Rene." Then Rene replied, "Yeah right..." From there he started jobbing out and went down the ranks. He called his mother who had breast cancer at the time, instead of going out with the boys out to bar in an off-sea tour. Then he asked for his release, in which a couple of years later, sued WWE for using his image. You know why he pulled out? Because WWE owns Rene Dupree (Character/Image). Blacklisted. Damme shame. You can still see the bitterness in his face up to this day when he streams. He is still young, and half broken, but can still GO.
Well he did say on a livestream recently that he was in talks to rejoin wwe at one point. Someone commented on one of his videos saying that it was the cte for him looking so unhappy and also that's probably just how his face rests.
@@rachaelvaughan1017 Heard that too about the CTE. Yet Rene always claims that he is retired now, so...I dont know why WWE would hire Rene when he doesnt keep up with the current product. At this point, the man is injury prone, but I love Rene's work. Too young to join the business and not knowing the politics of the big time, or learning as you go, really messed him up. At this point, going to Impact, ROH, AEW, or a known American promotion could make WWE have a second look at him, but if he is not willing, then he isnt willing, and what we saw Rene last do last in WWE is how people are going to remember him.
I still remember Alberto no showing the Impact Wrestling vs Lucha Underground twitch special. The main event was supposed to be a a tag team match, and the following PPV would have been Alberto vs Austin Aries. Instead we got two great three way main events in the form of Pentagon Jr vs Fenix vs Austin Aries, one at the twitch special, and the other at Redemption where Pentagon became the Impact World Champion. What's funny though is that Alberto was in actually in town, and was even on Impact's live stream of WrestleCon that weekend. Dude just decided to up and leave despite being booked. Dude has had so many chances to get his act together to say the least.
it was obvious. also, roman reigns is the worst WWE champ ever, he is boring! he has no charisma! He cannot do a promo! The WWE is sexist, and misogynist, yesterday was a show way too violent. way violent and kids should not have watched. not in this era of terrorists like BLM and Antifa.
@@theragnarokmachine2251 because he was doing his job, he was a very convincing heel and a fresh take on the "angry foreigner who hates USA" gimmick and he was able to get real heat from fans.
@kazewarrior 93 and as things have gone on, someone who really buried him, like a punk ass would, has seemed to be less and less of a likeable guy outside the ring
Marc Mero said nothing wrong. The switch from a mat based style to the slam-bang bump style, coupled with insane touring, led to a lot of guys getting hurt, hooked on pain meds, etc.
Yeah biggest reasons Chris did what he did were steroids and probably concussions. I can remember quite frequently in matches he would shake his head after that head but he did every match. Who knows how many concussions that bastard gave himself but he can rot in hell for doing that to his family
Yeah, but his rationalizing Chris Benoit’s crimes was pretty crappy. WWE made Chris Benoit a very well paid star and champion, in a profession HE chose to go into. Chris Benoit was responsible for his mental state, not WWE.
@@arynrowland862 So I don't know if you know, but the part of his brain that is usually used to filter out those more violent thoughts was full of holes. Now imagine someone like that who could eventually completely snap and let those thoughts out into the physical versions of them, NO ONE doesn't have these thoughts and urges but your brain tends to automatically filter out those options, NOW take away that ability and you are left with a man who can go in and out of what is basically psychosis.
@@giantmess4335 I don’t doubt what you’re saying, but to put the blame on WWE’s policies and practices is dumb and immature. Chris Benoit could have been a mail carrier, a welder, he could have operated cameras for the WWE, but he chose to be a professional wrestler. The list of pro wrestlers who do what he did, yet don’t murder their families is veeeerrrrry long. He chose to participate in something his brain couldn’t handle, and his family paid the price. Supplements didn’t do that to Chris Benoit, he did it to himself.
@@arynrowland862 while that is true he chose the profession, WWE was really a standard of health by any means, also the fact that for a long time even if TNA was around, WWE was the place to get recognized until TNA was finally on TV that most people could watch. WWE in America for a long time after the territory days was really the only shop in town besides what they call indy darlings but most people people outside of Japan Britain and the USA didn't really have wrestling like this even Mexico which is now seeming got the style stolen by AEW spotfest. Now saying that WWE wasn't exactly the smartest about management of health at all. People even in really bad ways still wrestled in grueling conditions in an atmosphere that many especially in the 90s and 2000s that had a lot of them trying to get on TV and stay on TV and even was cleared when they shouldn't have been. This was a reason WWE also got sued multiple times in both directions of people tired of being reinjured and put back on the shelf for longer then they would have had too if given time to heal. Also, on the flip side because of the overcorrection on injuries people hated working with WWE when they finally did heal because now the WWE had nothing for them in long term or short term. I also think at a company no matter the sport real or scripted, daddy Vince should have made sure to cross his Ts and dot his I's but for a long time he didn't and it wasn't like anyone especially back then was gonna fux around with where their money was coming from especially when the company owned every penny for the contract they would now might have to by out or fux up so royally that they would be fired for staining the perceived company line
Most of these guys were fired for unfair reasons out of their control. As always, it shows how not only is wrestling itself important to get ahead in your career, but maintaining a good and professional attitude and relationship with your colleagues, as well as using backstage politics to your advantage.
Hassan was a beast and it sucks for him to be literally sacked for just doing his job. He lost his wrestling career over something the company wanted him to do. He had champ written all over him too.
Note: Shane Douglas tried to return to WWE with the Radicalz. He assumed he was coming but Vince didn't want anything to do with him. It was after that he really got outspoken
@@Yomomma45738 it doesn't change the fact that Benoit's brain was damaged due to all the spots he did in his career. It was the Wrestling Business who killed the Benoit family
Marc is blackballed because of his poor relationship with Brock Lesnar's wife. Even with Sables not so great history with the company, they're not going to risk her getting in Brocks ear.
@@NoxWyatt to that point though all evidence says Enzo was innocent but any time he's brought up half the comments are people refusing to accept that he didn't do it
Enzo wasn't really fired for the acts that he didn't commit. He was fired because he took quite a while to tell the company about it plus I assume all his antics backstage had already set a snowfall effect in action.
Muhammad Hassan (Marc Copani) was released because the WWE's advertising sponsors and the networks wanted the character gone. Rather than go back to developmental and create a new character, he quit wrestling. Shane Douglas was one of many WWE guys in the 90s who got screwed over by the Kliq, so no wonder he doesn't speak well of WWE.
Firing a guy for playing a character you came up with is some bullshit. Did WWE really think the Undertaker being jumped by "masked terrorists" shortly after actual terrorists decapitated a man was going to go over well?
6:42 so he points out what WWE spent years trying to brainwash their fans into. WWE loves shoving it down our throats that it’s fake, they’re not wrestlers they’re superstars? So this guy points it out, he says it’s fake and the belts are props, the same thing WWE says but because he’s saying it it’s defamatory? Boy that’s interesting logic they have.
WWE is fiercly tough about maintaining kafabe. The illusion that wrestling is real. Wrestlers are not allowed to be see in character hanging out with people they are feuding with. For example Hulk Hogan couldn't be seen in public with the Iron Sheik. And the Iron Sheik had to act like the Iron Sheik even in public.
@@SirDistic yeah in 1985 bro. Not now. They’ve been telling us it’s bullsh*t since Vince did his "We in the WWF, think that you the audience are, quite frankly, tired of having your intelligence insulted.”
My thoughts on each one: Rene I never really liked. However, I did admire his abilities in the ring. He was a gifter athlete for sure. His promo skills were lacking but hey, he just started. And, of course, just like with many, WWE never gave him the chance. Hassan had the potential to be a top notch heel. Bad place, bad time I'll say. Mero spoke the truth but WWE likes to rug sweep anything that could tarnish their reputation. From what I know, Enzo also had backstage problems and was hated by many people in the locker room. Ryback is a moron. I guess all those steroids do mess up your brain. Del Rio dug his own grave. Also, wasn't he busted for drug traffic?
To be fair, Dupree could've been telling the truth....saying a cross word about Taker could get you buried due to the respect his work has gained him with in the industry. He may have been a bully. We don't know and can't know for sure(either way)
And yet he's also named the Undertaker as one of the wrestlers who actually helped him the most, replying to a superchat question in one of his livestreams. There's always a middle ground.
It's clear that Girl lied someone who got raped wouldn't be bragging to her friend and telling what she did and how everything went down she was clearly looking for a check probably her friend put her up to it... and this is the reason why I'm always skeptic when women come out with rape allegations unless there is resounding evidence
@@da_jamaican she did, that's the same girl that told another guy that he raped her then showed up much later saying she was pregnant and he had to take her to the abortion clinic and he had to pay for it (her own words, I forget her name and don't want to remember it)
Mark was purely speaking the truth and WWE didn’t like that he called them out, especially being they knew he was right, and shifted all blame on Benoit. Complete bullshit
Enzo and Cass both got blackballed from ROH after what happened at G1 Supercard of Honor. Enzo and Cass jumped the barrier during a tag match featuring PCO the Briscoe Brothers and LIJ, once Enzo and Cass jumped the barricade, SANADA and EVIL started beating the hell out of them. Once they got backstage they loudly voiced their displeasure at what happened, apparently it was planned by ROH, but the NJPW agent assigned to ROH, Tiger Hattori, had no clue that was planned. To save from getting sued by Tiger and Harold Meiji, Sinclair, the owner of ROH at the time, decided to denounce the stunt and black ball Enzo and Cass.
Ennis, Enzo, would bring his friends backstage and even into the areas were other wrestlers were asking for autographs. Friends of wrestlers are not allowed backstage unless direct permission from Vince. He was also tossed off of the bus by Roman, the top guy, for pissing off everyone on the bus trying to sleep and he was on his phone loud as hell. It wasn't just his rape accusations and his stunt why he's not welcome back.
I always feel bad for the man behind Hassan. The man was american born with Italian roots and strapped with an Arabian heel gimmick in OVW. They could’ve repackaged him, maybe he could’ve pulled off Chavos Kerwin White. But nonetheless he got into education and i bet he’s having a good post wwe life
I remember watching vignettes of del rio back in 2010 before he started wrestling, never liked him, I didn’t understand why he was the guy getting a push, stopped watching shortly after. I take comfort in knowing he didn’t last long.
It’s weird how they don’t talk about Vince despite him literally being the founder of WWE. I hope Vince doesn’t ruin WWE further now that he unfortunately came back
Honestly, I'd support WWE in making every show a 3-hour, NXT 2.0 looking, jobber-filled slogfest if somehow it kept that geriatric rapist out of the company.
@@NoxWyatt Yes, it makes me sick the level he's already forced his way back in, and every single minute he isn't hurling his decrepit old rapist corpse off the top of Titan Towers is a shame, at best.
Your timeline of Rene Dupree is certainly a whiplash to say the least, he didn't just "still wrestle" he was working for the top promotions in Japan like All Japan Pro, NOAH and ZERO1 immediately after departing from the WWE. He didn't just fall off and is now bitter at his former company unlike the false narrative you're putting forth.
All that training Hassan/Copani did went to waste, just because of a dumb storyline and gimmick that Vince chose. He was going to be one of the top heels in the company. He didn't even work on the independent circuit after he was released from Smackdown. Now he's a school principal.
Hard to say with Shane Douglas as he HAS appeared on the WWE network in recent years - but some things on the network happen without Vince's approval and get pulled the second he finds out (see - WWE Swerved)
He hurt multiple wrestlers because he couldn’t wrestle all he was is muscle we know wrestling is fake but he missing tables on purpose botching power bombs he’s the reason a lot of our favorite wrestlers couldn’t make a comeback
He was well known for being unsafe. They tried many times to train him to be safe. He refused. Many wrestlers disliked him because he was sloppy and he hurt people.
Enzo was not one of the most popular wrestlers. Not even close. He was actually close to XPac heat. That's why Miz was booked to bury him in that promo.
Did I miss hear what they said about Enzo did they say WWE offer d him his job back or they didn't offer him his job back cause that makes no sense if they offered him his job back why did he go to the WWE ppv and cause a scene
Cte was 100% the reason for the cb thing. It's a real problem and until sports people who get hit in the head regularly stop becoming walking vegetables at 40yo it'll stay a problem. Wwe burying every attempt to talk about it is disgusting.
This is fucked up Hassan was fired for doing what he was told to do and Wwe didn't even bother trying to repackage him yeah I get it it was controversial but did he deserve it
Keeping Enzo out of WWE because he was making a scene in with the fans is a dumb. He wasn't trash talking the company.. nor did he say anything bad about it. He was just doing his catchphrase out in the crowd. This man got screwed because of allegations that weren't true.
What Ryback said was true though & he said basically what everyone already knew. IDK why professional wrestling companies or wrestlers get upset when they say wrestling is fake when they know it's true. Yeah, most of the injuries are real & picking up the person is real too.The 1 rumor that's not true is the blood caps. They make themselves bleed. Yes, they do dangerous stunts & yes, there are ones that can fight IRL. However, at the end of day(as I said before) Ryback is correct.
The Hassan/Kapani story is really sad. The dude was being projected for two main event programs but then the writing decided to get actually racist at the worst possible time. Dude got blacklisted for doing as asked unlike everyone else here
I thought he was actually an entertaining character too
Copani likes to tell the story that he got screwed over, but it was his poor attitude backstage that got him fired.
He was lazy in OVW, and he was uncooperative with his WWE storylines, always getting in arguments with creative.
He was released because he wasn’t giving the company a return in their investment.
I think WWE would of brought him in as a new character. But he hated the character that was put on him and the way things went. Yes, he was let go and they should of told him they would bring him back under a new character but they didn't. And he admitted in a rare interview he really didn't want to come back. That the schedule was too difficult. Many don't get how much these wrestlers go through.
Vince did the same thing to "Dr D" David Schultz back in the 80s: canned and blackballed him for doing his job. Note how WWE still doesn't mention his name
moral of the story: don't be a Muslim character when the WWE fanbase are primarily redneck white dudes from the south lol
Not only that, Del Rio is pretty much blacklisted from nearly every major wrestling company due to his poor attitude, criminal record, and his habit of no-showing events. I think he wrestles in underground companies these days
He should do porn.
Pretty sure he's a Spanish commentator for the UFC as well.
Usually you can't get a job in an industry if you no showed. So underground being his family birthday parties, with the green bastard from parts unknown
It's kind of sad since all charges against him were dropped. Yet it sounds like everything you said will keep him out of the limelight for the rest of his career.
He’s got a couple matches coming up in AAA(biggest promotion in Mexico). It’s not long term and it’s for a tournament for second and third generation wrestlers.
I love how your videos are straight to the point. No long intros or "like comment subscribe". A breathe of fresh air
Yeah, but I cant like or subscribe, because I wasn't asked too.
And yet still full of nonsense, since the WWE never outright bans anybody and everybody ultimately returns if there's money to be made (the sole exceptions may be David Schultz and Kevin Wacholz)
Fun fact mark kapani is now a principal at a school district and is doing really good for himself he's also a really great guy too
Fun fact: There is an Easter egg to that school district in WWE 2K20!
To be fair, as hard as they pushed Mark as Hussain, there's literally no way they could have tried to package him as something else.
Sometimes you can do your job TOO well.
Muhammad Hassan had one hell of a run and is still talked about today. He was everything you wanted from a heel
yes ,the proble is USA pseudo fans ..........wwe dont defens the wrestler etc.........stupid usa fans try to kill whant kill etc....Hassan (caracter name). One is the carrier different in real life !
most fans and usa fan dont think this is a show !the real family fro hassan have problem to !
Blame americans crying cause of the twin towers stuff.All the conservative america F yeah more wars in the middle east types came out the woodworks crying even tho they don't watch wrestling.
He should never have been let go. It wasn't his fault some goat pleasuring lunatics caused mayhem in the world.
@@dragondude9637exactly sucks that he lost his career over people he doesnt even know
Yall ready for durag vince return at number 30 in the royal rumble to win it and beat roman for both titles.
Yeah I’m so excited for Vince to get the final title run he deserves.
@@theghostreckon316 😂
😂😂😂😂
this comment actually sums up wwe
Or maybe Vince returning as the creative and Humberto Carrillo and Lacey Evans will be the Rumble winners.
Muhammed Hassan got a raw deal. He was only doing what they wrote for him, and he doesn’t decide what gets to air at any given time. They could have just changed his gimmick, that really sucks what happened to him.
Hassan was supposed to become the World Heavyweight Champion in 2005 and defeat Batista, at Summerslam. Can you imagine just how much nuclear heat his character would've gotten, had he pinned Batista?
@jimbean1468 At his age during that time and with his work ethic? Absolutely it would've been a great long term investment had it went through. He had the psychology down, his work was finely polished and he didn't have to be big and fast, like Brock. Basically what Orton got over Benoit the previous year, Hassan's push would've been longer at least until WrestleMania. It would've brought tv ratings, ticket sales just to see him get beat. Long term storytelling at it's finest and the payoff would've been sweet.
@jimbean1468 I'm a worker in the business, I know better than the rest of the dumbass smarks out there who are being worked by the dirtsheets anyways. Even the best workers are green when put into a spot. It was Batista, Orton, Steve Austin, Macho Man, Flair, Fujinami, Jumbo Suruta, I could go on. Know your history before having a quick witted reaction because like a high spot, that last comment of yours had no structure.
Vince got to be one of the best heels in wrestling history, Whether it's playing character or not.
He did whatever he could to keep his company afloat.
He's shown to be loyal to wwe workers who toe the line.
He isn't a billionaire for no reason
he should be in jail. the slimeball
@@donaldiarussimfa5488 Why? He kept thousands of people working.
Vince McMahon made wrestling for everyone
If Enzo hadn't made a scene disguised as a fan, he would've had his old job back.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it and do what is the most entertaining 😂😂
I don’t think so, everywhere he goes he becomes a cancer in the locker room and his biggest problem for wwe is his incident he had with Roman Reigns who is WWE’s main guy now and as long as Roman is there Enzo probably won’t be.
lol nah he was stock in the company was so low no one liked him
WWE would never have rehired him.
Probably, but then the fans would be cheering for a drug addict loser....I think he did the right thing by making a scene...when he was high on nose candy, he wouldn't have done it if he was sober
So basically, Marc got blackballed for speaking the truth, and Hassan for doing what he was told to do! Well done, Vince! The ultimate heel!
Heel means he's acting ...when it's real life that makes you a cut throat business man who will fire you for doing what he told you to do. He's a piece of chit not a heel, you know the difference right? Or have you lost the ability to tell the difference between tv and reality?
Hassan got a little big headed too though. He tried to tell Eddie not to do the camel clutch because it was his move. Didnt even know that his dad invented the move lol
I can't imagine doing what's right for business and taking the heat for something that wasn't your decision, and your reward for it being shown the door. Crazy.
@@markfleming9100Kurt Angle told him to say that though. Kurt Angle manipulated Muhammad Hassan.
I believe Enzo's problem was that he couldnt separate his character, from his actual personality, and ended up rubbing a lot of guys in the back the wrong way, and is how he got himself alienated from the lockeroom. he was good on the mic, but in in-ring work wasnt amazing, and didnt justify keeping him around. perhaps if he would of humbled himself and learned to get along with people in the back better, he could of had a longer career as a mouthpiece or manager.
Yeh but at least the allegations were false
Anything else the man might be, he isn't no r@pist
Rene Dupree's downfall was multiple things. He started young, 19 young, so he couldnt risk standing up for himself because of the fear of getting fired. One time, Rene said in his podcast, after he worked he matched,
Vince came from behind him and patted him on the back and said, "Great things are going to happen to you Rene."
Then Rene replied, "Yeah right..."
From there he started jobbing out and went down the ranks. He called his mother who had breast cancer at the time, instead of going out with the boys out to bar in an off-sea tour. Then he asked for his release, in which a couple of years later, sued WWE for using his image. You know why he pulled out? Because WWE owns Rene Dupree (Character/Image).
Blacklisted. Damme shame. You can still see the bitterness in his face up to this day when he streams.
He is still young, and half broken, but can still GO.
Well he did say on a livestream recently that he was in talks to rejoin wwe at one point. Someone commented on one of his videos saying that it was the cte for him looking so unhappy and also that's probably just how his face rests.
@@rachaelvaughan1017 Heard that too about the CTE. Yet Rene always claims that he is retired now, so...I dont know why WWE would hire Rene when he doesnt keep up with the current product. At this point, the man is injury prone, but I love Rene's work. Too young to join the business and not knowing the politics of the big time, or learning as you go, really messed him up. At this point, going to Impact, ROH, AEW, or a known American promotion could make WWE have a second look at him, but if he is not willing, then he isnt willing, and what we saw Rene last do last in WWE is how people are going to remember him.
@@rachaelvaughan1017 dunno. CTE is getting to him eventually, but looking at his old interviews, he already had that spacey look in his eyes.
@João Pires he said he's been wrestling since he was a teenager
Renee is a basehead now dude vanishes from his streams mid interviews constantly looking meth headed OUT
I still remember Alberto no showing the Impact Wrestling vs Lucha Underground twitch special. The main event was supposed to be a a tag team match, and the following PPV would have been Alberto vs Austin Aries. Instead we got two great three way main events in the form of Pentagon Jr vs Fenix vs Austin Aries, one at the twitch special, and the other at Redemption where Pentagon became the Impact World Champion. What's funny though is that Alberto was in actually in town, and was even on Impact's live stream of WrestleCon that weekend. Dude just decided to up and leave despite being booked. Dude has had so many chances to get his act together to say the least.
Alberto works for the UFC now
@Jim Bean fr everytime i saw him i was like oh hell nah bro
@Jim Bean ong like what the fuck they do that with everyone nowadays
@Jim Bean i 100% agree wwe went to shit we can thank people like brock Lesnar alberto del rio for screwing up wwe
@Jim Bean i agree
Honestly feel bad for Mark just doing his job
What doesn't make sense is why they couldn't just have given him a different gimmick?
it was obvious. also, roman reigns is the worst WWE champ ever, he is boring! he has no charisma! He cannot do a promo! The WWE is sexist, and misogynist, yesterday was a show way too violent. way violent and kids should not have watched. not in this era of terrorists like BLM and Antifa.
@@theragnarokmachine2251 because he was doing his job, he was a very convincing heel and a fresh take on the "angry foreigner who hates USA" gimmick and he was able to get real heat from fans.
Wrong gimmick at a very sensitive time in American history.
@@chrisl9934Those make the best heels, just like Sgt. Slaughter during the Gulf War.
Your pace and transition through different wrestlers is so smooth and just straight to the point, well done
I've talked with Ryback before and he's actually a really good guy
@kazewarrior 93 and as things have gone on, someone who really buried him, like a punk ass would, has seemed to be less and less of a likeable guy outside the ring
@@kazewarrior93I think Ryback is a great guy who just lets his intrusive thoughts win way too often
I also talked to him on his UA-cam channel once years ago. He had some valid concerns.
Marc Mero said nothing wrong. The switch from a mat based style to the slam-bang bump style, coupled with insane touring, led to a lot of guys getting hurt, hooked on pain meds, etc.
Yeah biggest reasons Chris did what he did were steroids and probably concussions. I can remember quite frequently in matches he would shake his head after that head but he did every match. Who knows how many concussions that bastard gave himself but he can rot in hell for doing that to his family
Yeah, but his rationalizing Chris Benoit’s crimes was pretty crappy. WWE made Chris Benoit a very well paid star and champion, in a profession HE chose to go into. Chris Benoit was responsible for his mental state, not WWE.
@@arynrowland862 So I don't know if you know, but the part of his brain that is usually used to filter out those more violent thoughts was full of holes. Now imagine someone like that who could eventually completely snap and let those thoughts out into the physical versions of them, NO ONE doesn't have these thoughts and urges but your brain tends to automatically filter out those options, NOW take away that ability and you are left with a man who can go in and out of what is basically psychosis.
@@giantmess4335 I don’t doubt what you’re saying, but to put the blame on WWE’s policies and practices is dumb and immature. Chris Benoit could have been a mail carrier, a welder, he could have operated cameras for the WWE, but he chose to be a professional wrestler. The list of pro wrestlers who do what he did, yet don’t murder their families is veeeerrrrry long. He chose to participate in something his brain couldn’t handle, and his family paid the price. Supplements didn’t do that to Chris Benoit, he did it to himself.
@@arynrowland862 while that is true he chose the profession, WWE was really a standard of health by any means, also the fact that for a long time even if TNA was around, WWE was the place to get recognized until TNA was finally on TV that most people could watch. WWE in America for a long time after the territory days was really the only shop in town besides what they call indy darlings but most people people outside of Japan Britain and the USA didn't really have wrestling like this even Mexico which is now seeming got the style stolen by AEW spotfest. Now saying that WWE wasn't exactly the smartest about management of health at all. People even in really bad ways still wrestled in grueling conditions in an atmosphere that many especially in the 90s and 2000s that had a lot of them trying to get on TV and stay on TV and even was cleared when they shouldn't have been. This was a reason WWE also got sued multiple times in both directions of people tired of being reinjured and put back on the shelf for longer then they would have had too if given time to heal. Also, on the flip side because of the overcorrection on injuries people hated working with WWE when they finally did heal because now the WWE had nothing for them in long term or short term. I also think at a company no matter the sport real or scripted, daddy Vince should have made sure to cross his Ts and dot his I's but for a long time he didn't and it wasn't like anyone especially back then was gonna fux around with where their money was coming from especially when the company owned every penny for the contract they would now might have to by out or fux up so royally that they would be fired for staining the perceived company line
I feel bad for Mark Copani (Hassan). The guy was just doing his job and was doing it well.
Most of these guys were fired for unfair reasons out of their control. As always, it shows how not only is wrestling itself important to get ahead in your career, but maintaining a good and professional attitude and relationship with your colleagues, as well as using backstage politics to your advantage.
Hassan was a beast and it sucks for him to be literally sacked for just doing his job. He lost his wrestling career over something the company wanted him to do. He had champ written all over him too.
6:48 and now he's became a meme while eating chips
Note: Shane Douglas tried to return to WWE with the Radicalz. He assumed he was coming but Vince didn't want anything to do with him. It was after that he really got outspoken
Y’all have no idea how much I miss Mohammed Hassan he was amazing fr, I actually liked him a lot 😭😭
That was funny asf when they beat up the Undertaker though.
So the WWE didn't like it that Marc Mero told the truth about the wrestling business 😄
The wrestling business has been around sense the beginning of time and has had one incident like Chris Benoit. Yall soft af. I would of marked him to.
@@Yomomma45738 it doesn't change the fact that Benoit's brain was damaged due to all the spots he did in his career. It was the Wrestling Business who killed the Benoit family
Marc is blackballed because of his poor relationship with Brock Lesnar's wife. Even with Sables not so great history with the company, they're not going to risk her getting in Brocks ear.
@@Yomomma45738 Jimmy Snuka killed someone and got away with it. Stop!
@@spms52 he dead now he aint killing shit 💀
I love this channel... im a 26 year wwe fan.. love the just about everyday video..👍👌
Kinda confused why riddle can get away with everything he’s done but Enzo was fired just for being accused lol
"Middle finger to the sky gripping my consensual penis, lying ass hoe i'm phoenix when I say this shit I mean it"
Fucking hilarious
I’ve seen a some people talk about Riddle and the allegations against him. But unless I see some substantial evidence, I’m remaining skeptical.
@@NoxWyatt to that point though all evidence says Enzo was innocent but any time he's brought up half the comments are people refusing to accept that he didn't do it
@@matthewcarpenter6202people pick and choose when to defend someone in the wwe base today, kind of miss how it was in 2010
Enzo wasn't really fired for the acts that he didn't commit. He was fired because he took quite a while to tell the company about it plus I assume all his antics backstage had already set a snowfall effect in action.
Bro your narrating skills are top notch. You have a gift.
Lol really? Sounds like he's saying dub-dub-eeeee
@@efisherspfld he's still listenable even if he has his own way of speaking
Muhammad Hassan (Marc Copani) was released because the WWE's advertising sponsors and the networks wanted the character gone. Rather than go back to developmental and create a new character, he quit wrestling. Shane Douglas was one of many WWE guys in the 90s who got screwed over by the Kliq, so no wonder he doesn't speak well of WWE.
Douglas, Candido, and Bam Bam Bigelow
@@NukeIt2Bdone Vader as well
Firing a guy for playing a character you came up with is some bullshit. Did WWE really think the Undertaker being jumped by "masked terrorists" shortly after actual terrorists decapitated a man was going to go over well?
Jeff Hardy was younger. He was 17. Get your facts right.
Hussan was black balled for asking Eddie to stop using the camel clutch. Get your facts right
6:42 so he points out what WWE spent years trying to brainwash their fans into. WWE loves shoving it down our throats that it’s fake, they’re not wrestlers they’re superstars? So this guy points it out, he says it’s fake and the belts are props, the same thing WWE says but because he’s saying it it’s defamatory? Boy that’s interesting logic they have.
WWE is fiercly tough about maintaining kafabe. The illusion that wrestling is real. Wrestlers are not allowed to be see in character hanging out with people they are feuding with.
For example Hulk Hogan couldn't be seen in public with the Iron Sheik. And the Iron Sheik had to act like the Iron Sheik even in public.
@@SirDistic yeah in 1985 bro. Not now. They’ve been telling us it’s bullsh*t since Vince did his "We in the WWF, think that you the audience are, quite frankly, tired of having your intelligence insulted.”
My thoughts on each one:
Rene I never really liked. However, I did admire his abilities in the ring. He was a gifter athlete for sure. His promo skills were lacking but hey, he just started. And, of course, just like with many, WWE never gave him the chance.
Hassan had the potential to be a top notch heel. Bad place, bad time I'll say.
Mero spoke the truth but WWE likes to rug sweep anything that could tarnish their reputation.
From what I know, Enzo also had backstage problems and was hated by many people in the locker room.
Ryback is a moron. I guess all those steroids do mess up your brain.
Del Rio dug his own grave. Also, wasn't he busted for drug traffic?
To be fair, Dupree could've been telling the truth....saying a cross word about Taker could get you buried due to the respect his work has gained him with in the industry. He may have been a bully. We don't know and can't know for sure(either way)
And yet he's also named the Undertaker as one of the wrestlers who actually helped him the most, replying to a superchat question in one of his livestreams. There's always a middle ground.
Mr Kennedy will never be rehired or Randy Orton will get upset.
0:54 When the fuck did Rene look like THAT?!
Rene: i was bullied backstage
Yeah that's fine I understand that
Rene: The Undertaker was one of the people that bullied me
*ok nevermind*
I miss Enzo he was so entertaining
It's clear that Girl lied someone who got raped wouldn't be bragging to her friend and telling what she did and how everything went down she was clearly looking for a check probably her friend put her up to it... and this is the reason why I'm always skeptic when women come out with rape allegations unless there is resounding evidence
While the girl Is the biggest at fault here, Enzo kinda ruined his possibile return
@@Drakorre nah. She ruined it. Wwe was never letting him back
He was just here this weekend
@@da_jamaican she did, that's the same girl that told another guy that he raped her then showed up much later saying she was pregnant and he had to take her to the abortion clinic and he had to pay for it (her own words, I forget her name and don't want to remember it)
I already knew Mark Mero as Johnny B Badd in WCW. He accomplished more there. WWF just misused him as they usually do with former WCW wresters
Tap out corner some of these wrestlers will be back in the WWE. Remember Vince is selling the company so the old wrestlers can make a comeback.
Can say these guys are now deleted forever from wwe history
Mark was purely speaking the truth and WWE didn’t like that he called them out, especially being they knew he was right, and shifted all blame on Benoit. Complete bullshit
Enzo and Cass both got blackballed from ROH after what happened at G1 Supercard of Honor. Enzo and Cass jumped the barrier during a tag match featuring PCO the Briscoe Brothers and LIJ, once Enzo and Cass jumped the barricade, SANADA and EVIL started beating the hell out of them. Once they got backstage they loudly voiced their displeasure at what happened, apparently it was planned by ROH, but the NJPW agent assigned to ROH, Tiger Hattori, had no clue that was planned. To save from getting sued by Tiger and Harold Meiji, Sinclair, the owner of ROH at the time, decided to denounce the stunt and black ball Enzo and Cass.
Ennis, Enzo, would bring his friends backstage and even into the areas were other wrestlers were asking for autographs. Friends of wrestlers are not allowed backstage unless direct permission from Vince. He was also tossed off of the bus by Roman, the top guy, for pissing off everyone on the bus trying to sleep and he was on his phone loud as hell. It wasn't just his rape accusations and his stunt why he's not welcome back.
We need another list in the future include Big Cass, who also got fired from WWE and barred from coming back.
Woman thar make false accusations should be in jail
My favourite wrestler was Enzo Amore, always entertaining and everything I've ever heard about him backstage is hilarious
My Tiger Mask
I always feel bad for the man behind Hassan. The man was american born with Italian roots and strapped with an Arabian heel gimmick in OVW. They could’ve repackaged him, maybe he could’ve pulled off Chavos Kerwin White. But nonetheless he got into education and i bet he’s having a good post wwe life
I never cared much for Enzo, but he was the best thing to happen to the 205 division.
It sucks that Muhammad Hassan got fired for doing what they told him to do
To this day, I am not sure why they got rid of Hussan but, still kept Davari around. Davari was Hussan's manager.
Daivari was pretty much just the mouthpiece/manager.
Why that background music maked me have weird vibes🤔🤔🤔
yea ngl i dont understand for a video like this normally this should be used for scary topics or something
You left out Big Cass, who was fired because almost assaulted Carmella
When he said "dating Paige" it sounded like "beating Paige"
5 seconds later, that would make sense if he did say "beating"
I remember watching vignettes of del rio back in 2010 before he started wrestling, never liked him, I didn’t understand why he was the guy getting a push, stopped watching shortly after.
I take comfort in knowing he didn’t last long.
René has one of the best podcast today.
Great video.
Ryback sucks. That dude was a walking injury machine. He hurt tons of people and his in ring work showed that.
How did you not mention Jaxson Ryker?
Because there's only room for so much on a list and they can't do everyone or it'd be a 26 hour long video.
It’s weird how they don’t talk about Vince despite him literally being the founder of WWE. I hope Vince doesn’t ruin WWE further now that he unfortunately came back
Honestly, I'd support WWE in making every show a 3-hour, NXT 2.0 looking, jobber-filled slogfest if somehow it kept that geriatric rapist out of the company.
He's been back
You know he’s been back for about a few weeks now, right?
@@NoxWyatt Yes, it makes me sick the level he's already forced his way back in, and every single minute he isn't hurling his decrepit old rapist corpse off the top of Titan Towers is a shame, at best.
@@NoxWyatt My bad, I totally forgot about that
Where's Ken Shamrock? He's been blacklisted for over 20 years now and isn't even in the WWE hall of fame.
Hassan was my favorite wrestler during that moment in time. I think I even have an action figure of him in a 2 pack with Daivari.
Muhammad hassan 3:33 so much potential got wasted by the WWE.
I’m still bitter about Muhammad Hassan. Like come on man he was a good wrestler.
Enzo and cass dude. We thought they were gunna be HUGE. What a sad end to that
I cared way more about the first 2 guys than Amore.
Your timeline of Rene Dupree is certainly a whiplash to say the least, he didn't just "still wrestle" he was working for the top promotions in Japan like All Japan Pro, NOAH and ZERO1 immediately after departing from the WWE. He didn't just fall off and is now bitter at his former company unlike the false narrative you're putting forth.
where can i find that 2014 cm punk interview?
I agree somewhat with Mero. I think there is some truth to the medical claim of the Benoit family.
Muhammed Hassan was so good, now that im older and mature. Wwe did him wrong
i’m not surprised Rene left to be honest
Respect for Marc mero a forgotten Wwe legend
All that training Hassan/Copani did went to waste, just because of a dumb storyline and gimmick that Vince chose. He was going to be one of the top heels in the company. He didn't even work on the independent circuit after he was released from Smackdown. Now he's a school principal.
Marc Mero wasn't wrong about Chris Benoit
Hard to say with Shane Douglas as he HAS appeared on the WWE network in recent years - but some things on the network happen without Vince's approval and get pulled the second he finds out (see - WWE Swerved)
To be fair swerved was shit and so was camp wwe
Del Rio had a bad choice in women, who wanted to ruin him with fake accusations, which destroyed him even though he was innocent
Still a Rybak fan. He was honest about the business and it hurted their widdle fee-wings...
He hurt multiple wrestlers because he couldn’t wrestle all he was is muscle we know wrestling is fake but he missing tables on purpose botching power bombs he’s the reason a lot of our favorite wrestlers couldn’t make a comeback
@@Kamikaze_Kane Who would they be?
@@benc.enlots Kofi Kingston Daniel Bryan Ziggler Bo Dallas CM Punk Swagger The Miz
He was well known for being unsafe. They tried many times to train him to be safe. He refused. Many wrestlers disliked him because he was sloppy and he hurt people.
@@Kamikaze_KaneKofi Kingston is still wrestling. So is Daniel Bryan.
Punk blamed WWE for his injuries too, so WWE probably don't care what Punk says.
I heard sgt.slaughter was banned from WWE for taking a dump in Vince's shoe.
I like how I never gave a shit about anyone on this list!
What’s up with the scary horror movie music bro lol
Enzo was not one of the most popular wrestlers. Not even close. He was actually close to XPac heat. That's why Miz was booked to bury him in that promo.
How the hell do you get banned from doing part of your job
How did Chris Benoit not make this list?
He’s dead
@@themondoshow But he hasnt been mentioned since he was dead
@@ericmonaco4509 lol
because benoit is the greatest
@@ericmonaco4509 you trolling
I feel so bad for Hassan. It wasn't his fault. It was terrible writing. WWE should have really think before they acted.
Did I miss hear what they said about Enzo did they say WWE offer d him his job back or they didn't offer him his job back cause that makes no sense if they offered him his job back why did he go to the WWE ppv and cause a scene
Dude I did not realize Jeff hardy was at the fuckin poker table!!
Enzo was the definition of entertainment..
You set the bar pretty low if that's your definition of entertainment. Enzo's a twit.
@@bigvito9008 twit ? 😂 As far as promos go Enzo was pure gold..
I listened to too much Lazy Masquerade to recognize one of these scary background music xD
Chris Benoit will never be forgiven. But, Marc Mero was right on the money about what the sport did to him.
Vince is in denial, because he carries some responsibility for it.
Cte was 100% the reason for the cb thing. It's a real problem and until sports people who get hit in the head regularly stop becoming walking vegetables at 40yo it'll stay a problem. Wwe burying every attempt to talk about it is disgusting.
This is fucked up Hassan was fired for doing what he was told to do and Wwe didn't even bother trying to repackage him yeah I get it it was controversial but did he deserve it
Jericho getting banned is rough lol. That man did a lot for WWE.
He has bad-mouthed WWE since he went to AEW though.
Wow, Ryback saying WWE is fake sport. not real wrestling sport. but much of marketing scandal operations. 😳😲
Keeping Enzo out of WWE because he was making a scene in with the fans is a dumb. He wasn't trash talking the company.. nor did he say anything bad about it. He was just doing his catchphrase out in the crowd. This man got screwed because of allegations that weren't true.
Idk his diss track existed 😂 hilarious but yeah I imagine that burnt some bridges
enzo sucks how cna in auttle era ruthelaa era fan liek tht fool
My guess is they just didn't want to encourage that behavior.
What about Velveteen Dream, Sunny, & possibly even Jeff Hardy?
I feel like Enzo was setup. A shame and a scandal honestly smh.
What Ryback said was true though & he said basically what everyone already knew. IDK why professional wrestling companies or wrestlers get upset when they say wrestling is fake when they know it's true.
Yeah, most of the injuries are real & picking up the person is real too.The 1 rumor that's not true is the blood caps. They make themselves bleed. Yes, they do dangerous stunts & yes, there are ones that can fight IRL.
However, at the end of day(as I said before) Ryback is correct.
No the youngest person to be hired was Jeff Hardy he was hired in 1994 at the age of 16 although he lied and said he was 18
I feel bad for Mark Magnus getting stuck playing a terrorist and getting left off WWE because he got stuck with a terrible gimmick
7:52 they’re probably both right, they both seem like they’re all the light bulbs aren’t on upstairs.