علم جب ھو تو پھر بدتمیزی ،بدتحزیبی ،بے ادبی کا سوال ھی نہیں پیدا ھوتا۔۔دونوں میں اختلاف اپنی جگہ مگر دونوں ایک دائرے میں تھے۔۔ماشاءاللہ۔۔ڈاکٹر اسرار کو اللہ جنت میں جگہ عطا فرمائے
It was BARELY 180 degrees. They were agreeing with each other on around 80% of matters. Apart from some technicalities, as a whole they were pretty much united. Both only varied in perspective on SOME points. And none of the points were AGAINST islam. Both were completely agreeing on shariyah matters. However since everyone has the right to present their narrative, both of them did and had differences in some places..
they are like two flowers in a banquet, they have no opposing discussion , but approach is different ......that is the unique quality of Quran and Sun-nah ....... i think so ...
@ammarshaheen7539 would not agree with 180 degrees, but the aspect you noted about them being respectful is so true, mate. x feeling bad for our times
I love Dr Israr Ahmad Sab ,as he was a great Scholar of Islam.Dr sab provided the answers according to Quran and Hadith and under the circles of Islamic Laws.
Look at his arguments they are nowhere close to the Quraan and Sunnah. All his arguments were based upon emotions and were irrelevant and irrational. There's no place for these opinions in Quraan and the Sunnah. His opinion on the Implementation of Islamic Law on the citizens is so absurd and irrational. Things like Beard, Hijab and other personal things don't have anything to do with the State or Islamic Law. 2. Expansion of an Islamic State : Again Dr. Sb confuses the era of the Prophet SAW with today's era. Those verses were only limited to the people of that time and have nothing to do with the modern world. On one side Dr. Sb is cursing the US for their involvement in countries like Iraq, Syrian and Afghanistan but on the other hand he wants an Islamic State to do the same and expand its borders. 3. Treating non- Muslims as the 2nd Grade Citizens : Here also his arguments were totally emotional with no evidence from the Quraan and the Sunnah. This very well talks about his radical mindset which is the most important problem Muslims of today are facing.
@@ShalinaPytI would like to know the references from the Quran that mention whatever you're saying. Quranic verses were limited for the people of that time? I mean where is it mentioned in the Quran or hadith? Also, I don't believe Dr Sab mentioned anything regarding not giving basic rights to non-Muslims. Or degrading them... but still Kindly provide references based on the Quran and Sahih ahadith to support your argument. It seems you're very knowledgeable, so it would be greatly beneficial for me to benefit from your knowledge.
@@abdulmoizrashid158it doesn't need any reference to say that those verses were ment for the people who lived at the time of the Prophet SAW. Not everything is mentioned in the Quraan and the Sunnah. Understanding is what actually matters. It says kill all the disbelievers whereever you find them. Does that apply to today's world ? If yes, then you must kill any disbeliever whenever you meet one. The Quraan clearly indicates that those verses were meant for only those people. As far as the reference is concerned, Understanding the verses doesn't need any references. While unfolding the verses the reality comes into the picture and truth prevails hence such things don't need any references.
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Ghamdi is an invalid teacher, and these aren't scholars, scholars are higher in level, they both can most be called students of knowledge, but that's it. Moving on, Ghamdi makes many haram halal, and by effect supports the liberal stream of Islam
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What an inspirational debate from Ghamdi sb - amazing.. Allah pak Dr. Israr ki bakhshish karay.. Ghamdi sb was way to sound and logical but his respect towards Dr. Israr is worth looking at 👍
@faizanzar007 please be civilised and agree to disgaree like ghamidi sahab and dr israr sahab. Kuch to seekh lo bhai in logon se. Respect kerna seekh ek doosre k views ki.
Gamdhi sahab is only impressing on dawat and tableeg but apart from the 30 minutes of jummah waaz who cares after that ends so we need to establish a govt based on shariah and make common people forcefully folow islamic laws, I have experience of 36 years that without force nothing is going to change.
بہت ہی پیاری گفتگو مگر نہایت ادب کے ساتھ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد رحمہ اللّٰہ علیہ کی جتنی بھی گفتگو کی غور کریں بات کو سمجھیں قرآن کریم کی تلاوت سے جواب دے رہے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی قبر مبارک پے کروڑوں رحمتیں نازل فرمائیں
اللّٰہ (جل شانہ) پر قربان جاؤں جنہوں نے ہر انسان کی شکلی اختلاف کی طرح رائے کے اختلاف سے نوازا ہے سبحان اللّٰہ لا الہ الا اللّٰہ محمد رسول اللّٰہ کے نیچے ہم سب ایک جسم کی طرح بھائی ہیں۔ الحمد لِلّٰہ
ماشاءاللہ! غامدی صاحب کے نظریات منطقی، گفتگو مدلل اور شائستہ طرز تکلم عالم دین کے شایان شان ہے۔۔۔ سبحان اللہ! منطقی، مدلل اور شائستہ طرز تکلم بڑی غیر معمولی انقلابی طاقت ہے اللّٰہ کریم! غامدی صاحب کو صحت و سلامتی اور ڈاکٹر صاحب کے درجات بلند فرمائے۔آمین
دونوں علماء نے شائستہ طریقے سے اختلاف کے ساتھ مختلف معاملات پرعلمی گفتگو گی۔ بحیثیت مجموعی جاوید غامدی صاحب کے دلائل زیادہ موثر معلوم ہوئے۔ اللہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب کو جنت میں اعلی مقام عطا فرمائے اور غامدی صاحب کو لمبی صحت مند زندگی عطا فرمائے تاکہ مسلمان ان کی تبلیغ سے فائدہ اٹھا سکیں آمین
No scholar is greater to another scholar, each scholar effects different audiences, audiences deciding who is the best scholar is just praising own thoughts!!
@@MS-Hussain , bahut jyada ho gaya . Israr sahab ne tafseer mein kaha tha ki haroof e miktaat ke mayne kisi ko nahin maloom siwa Allah aur uske rassol ke . Jabki saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha . Ab kya kahoge inke ilm ko ?
@@abdulrashidkhan2196 brother you should watch their videos because they did not said that, or bhai ap ye keh rhy ho hy saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha, bhai zara ja kar check har tafsser me ye nhi kha gya balky har kisi ki alag alag raiy thi , or agr kisi ki raiiy alag ho to bo bura nhi ho jata
True Islamic scholars in one video ❤️, no need to judge them even Sahab (R.A) had different opinions, it never reflects their negligence but difference in opinions....May Allah protect us from all the evils.
Nobody is against beard. But there are many scholars historically who do not consider it mandatory. You want to keep it then very good but dont force other or make it religion.
Best comment I read all day. Both very respectable to me. Both very close to my heart. May Allah bless dr Israr jannah and dr Ghamdi a long healthy life
@@raoufahmad9967Bhai tum wo log ho jo humaray deen mein cheezein fraz nhi hoti unko tum apne uper aur dusaro kay uper fraz samjh lete ho. Jab kay wo farz bhi nhi hoti. Dusari baat ye keh Ghamdi shab saab beard kay bilkul bhi khelaaf nahi hain. Unka maanna ye hai k jisne rakhi bohat achi baat hai. Aur jis ne nhi rakhi usko hakrat ki nigha se nhi dekhna chahiye
غامدی صاحب اپنی علمی گہرائی اور فراست کے لیے معروف ہیں۔ ان کی گفتگو کا انداز اور مسائل پر ان کی گہری نظر دلوں کو فتح کر لیتی ہے۔ ان کی علمی بصیرت اور حکمت عملی واقعی قابل تحسین ہے۔
غامدی کو پاکستان میں بیٹھے صرف اردو بولنا اتا ہے اردو کتابوں کو پڑھ کر اور ناولوں کو پڑھ کر اس نے اتنا کچھ بولنا سیکھا ہے ورنہ تو اس کو دین کا علم ایک رائے کے برابر بھی نہیں ہے اور یہ دینی علم بالکل جاہک اور اس سے بڑھ کر جاہل ہے
What a useful and important discussion, aisi baaten aaj k mufti karty he nahi hain wo tw bs view count wali harkaten krty hain .. I love Dr Sb , But ghamdi sb ka bhi kya kehna baat samajhne ka tarika ho tw dono he giants hain Knowledge k hisab se ..
No body can challenge the routes of Dr.Israr ahmed. His qoutes are always authentic In every matter. He is one of best scholar his own time till now. Allah grant him big rank in jannah.
دونوں رہنماؤں نے ساری زندگی اسلام کے لیے وقف کردی دونوں ہمارے سروں کے تاج ہیں، کسی کو کسی پہ کوئی فوقیت حاصل نہیں ہے۔میزبان بھی کمال کا ہے نالج رکھنے والا ہے
اس قدر علمی گفتگو کے درمیان اس فیمیل اینکر کے بچکانہ سوالات نے سارا مزا کرکرا کردیا۔ پروگرام کے پروڈیوسر کو سوچنا چاہیے تھا کہ جب دو پائے کے عالم دین بطور مہمان موجود ہیں تو میزبان بھی اسی ذہنی سطح کے ہونے چاہیے۔
میری ناقص رائے میں جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب کی گفتگو بہت مدلل ہے اور نہایت منطقی انداز سے اپنا نقطہ نظر نے پیش کیا ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب بھی ہمارے لئے نہایت ہی قابل احترام شخصیت ہے۔دونوں ہی بڑی عظیم شخصیتیں ہیں اور انہوں نے اپنی ساری عمر علم کے لئے اور دین کے لئے وقف کر دی ہے
The point is simple as Dr.israr saab Said..koi qanoon Agr huga tu wo ALLAH PAK K HUKAM K MUTABIQ OR Quran pak K mutqbiq HUGA..jaisy HAMARY nabi pak(S.A.W) K ZAMANA MAI tha..simple
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد نہایت اہم عالم دین ہیں۔دین کے لیے ان کی خدمات ناقابل فراموش ہیں لیکن غامدی صاحب اپنے موقف میں بہت واضح ہیں ۔ ان کے دلائل دین کے غائر مطالعہ کے عکاس ہیں۔
Dr. israr devoted his entire life to making people understand the Holy Quran. He lived a very simple life. May ALLAH bless his soul in jannat ul firdous
I see it as a debate kyonki islaam me VS jaisa kuch bhi nahin , Javed sahab aur Dr Israr humaari ummat ke bohat hi shaandaar ullema hain , allah sab par apni rehmat kare inshaallah..💐💐💐
Dr. Israr’s interpretation of Islamic State is no different from the Taliban’s-one that leads to intolerance, extremism and terrorism. On the other hand, Ghamdi Sahab’s interpretation is logical, rational and reasonable. I’m so grateful to Ghamdi Sahab for rescuing Islam from the clutches of ignorant, intolerant and barbaric mullahs. He’s a true scholar and educator. A man of beauty and intellect. May God bless him with a long and healthy life.
@@saqh.4439 بھائی آپ نے پورا جملہ نہیں پڑھا میں نے کہا ہے جس طرح جس نے جیسے سمجھا ویسے بیان کردیا لیکن دونوں ہی بہت ہی اچھے دین کی سمجھ رکھنے والے ہیں ویسے آپ کو جو سمجھ آئی وہ لے لو باقی چھوڑ دو
دونوں ھی اسکالرز علمی و قابل احترام شخصیت ھیں ۔۔ علمی اختلاف ھر دور میں رھا ھے۔۔۔ ھمارے لئے ھر ایک محترم و قابل عزت ھے۔ ما سواء ان کے جو جان بوجھ کر امت میں اختلاف پیدا کر رھے ھیں۔ ۔ وھ علمی اختلاف نھیں یھودی ایجنڈے پر عمل۔پیرا ھیں ۔جو اسلامی ریاستوں کے دشمن ھیں ۔۔
I love both Dr Israr Ahmad and Javed Ahmed Ghamdi.. both are respectable and knowledgeable person. Kash humary pass or bi Ulama Karam es terha ky hoty.
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک بہت اچھے عالم دین تھے، اللہ انھیں جنت نصیب کرے۔ جاوید احمد غامدی کی دلائل زیادہ واضح اور مضبوط ہیں اور ان کی عالمانہ سنجیدگی اور اعتدال پسند رویہ حد درجہ موثر اور پرکشش ہیں۔
Dr. Israr Ahmad is absolutely right here as he is conveying the same msg that Allah gave to our Holy Prophet pbuh and Sahabas acted upon after Holy Prophet pbuh. Islam is modest according to every era till qayamah
Dr Israr sahib is beyond any expediency. He doesn't know hypocrisy. He explains Islam as it is in the light of Quran and Suunah. Whereas Ghamdi sahib tries to please both people and Allah hence he lets his opinion surpass divine teachings. He suits the people who are escapist and want to please both their baser self and Allah.
Dr. Israel Ahmed He was the best Muslim scholar I have ever heard and seen. He had an incredible knowledge of Islam. May Allah grant us the same knowledge about the Quran and Allah. May Allah grant him a high rank in Jannatul Firdaus. Amen.
ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت ڈیبیٹ بہت خوبصورت مہمان خوبصورت اختلاف ادب اور شائستگی کی بہترین مثال یعنی بس کمال ھی کمال اللہ پاک مولانا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاخب کو جنت الفردوس میں اعلی مقام عطا فرماے جناب غامدی صاخب کو صخت و تندرستی عطا فرماے اپنے اپنے دائرے میں دونوں خضرات دیں کے بہترین داعی ھیں
Bilkul nhi , ghamdi sahab ki boli ek communalism wali hai ,kahin bhi jihad ko ,kahin bhi islami mumlikyat ki support nhi kr rhe ghamdi bas sulah sulah contract contract wali baate kr rhe hain ghamdi sahab .
Donu boht behtreen insna or Alm e deen han . But i learn alot from Dr israr speech . There is something in his voice in his command .that emotions that love for Allah and Islam i never see in any other person .
Ghamidi sahib ❤❤ A great 👍 intellectual ❤ a great Scholar 👍 Israar sahib isnt ready to review what he has read and how he understood Sarah Toubaa. But israar sahib is our honoured 🎖 Scholar. We love him and kay Allah Almighty accrpt his efforts to teach us and grant him highest level in jannah. Ameen 🙏 🙏 🙏
Ofcourse, both are giant but beyond Arabic peninsula, language is barrier, Ghambi saheb is right, it was not productive, as any nobody's care, islam reached in China, their progeny is paying dearly in kashgar, American are justified for aggressions, poorly understood.
Dr. Israr Ahmed Saheb ko Allah Jannah ata kare. In this discussion, on the role of the state, Ghamidi Sb. mentions that the state can impose on its citizens only on matters related to Tawheed, Salah and Zakat. According, to Israr Sb. the state can impose instructions on other matters also and may even order killing of those who do not adhere to the ruling. We all know, that our prophet Muhammed (SAW), establshed the first Islamic state in Medina after which several wars were fought. We also know, several hypocrites refused to go to war with our prophet. Whether these people were ordered to be killed (beheaded) by our prophet, on their refusal to participate in the war? The Quran doesn't say so. To me the argument of Ghamidi Sb. seems to be correct.
MashALLAH both are great scholars, there views and opinions were totally different from eachother but still they didn't raised voice or disrespected. What a graceful personalities God bless them both
Dr. Israr (R.a) the sea of knowledge with logics. MA. Allah humare pyare aziz Dr sahab ko jannat mein aala maqaam ata karen. Ghamdi is nothing in front of him
اسلام اور جمہوریت دو الگ چیزیں ھیں۔ جمہوریت میں اکثریت کی رائے مانی جاتی ہے اور اسلام میں اگر ایک شخص بھی حق پر کھڑا ہوگا تو اسی کی مانی جائے گی اسی لیے اسلام اور جمہوریت میں بہت بڑا فرق ہے۔ حق پر وہی ہے جو اسلام میں قران اور سنت کی بات کرے گا۔
ڈاکٹراسرار صاحب ۔ امت کیلےاللہ تعالی کی نصرت رہی ھے۔ اور تاقیامت مسلمان مستفید ھوتے رہیں گے۔
ماشاء اللّٰہ اللّٰہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر رحمتہ اللّٰہ علیہ کی قبر کو نور سے بھر دیں اور جنت الفردوس میں اعلیٰ مقام عطا فرمائیں امین ❤
علم جب ھو تو پھر بدتمیزی ،بدتحزیبی ،بے ادبی کا سوال ھی نہیں پیدا ھوتا۔۔دونوں میں اختلاف اپنی جگہ مگر دونوں ایک دائرے میں تھے۔۔ماشاءاللہ۔۔ڈاکٹر اسرار کو اللہ جنت میں جگہ عطا فرمائے
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What a golden age it was mayn. Both have 180 degrees views to each other but still doing debate in a respectful manner. ❤️
It was BARELY 180 degrees.
They were agreeing with each other on around 80% of matters.
Apart from some technicalities, as a whole they were pretty much united.
Both only varied in perspective on SOME points. And none of the points were AGAINST islam. Both were completely agreeing on shariyah matters. However since everyone has the right to present their narrative, both of them did and had differences in some places..
Agreed and both are amazing scholars no doubt@@ammarshaheen7539
they are like two flowers in a banquet, they have no opposing discussion , but approach is different ......that is the unique quality of Quran and Sun-nah .......
i think so ...
@ammarshaheen7539 would not agree with 180 degrees, but the aspect you noted about them being respectful is so true, mate. x feeling bad for our times
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غامدی صاحب جیسا عالم اور استاد صدیوں میں پیدا ہوتے ہیں۔ اللہ ان کی عمر دراز کرے۔ آمین
Dr israr is Absolutely 💯 Right appreciate it very much for your Thanks Regards Muhammad Shafique from Tauheed Block Bahria town Lahore Pakistan bless.
I love Dr Israr Ahmad Sab ,as he was a great Scholar of Islam.Dr sab provided the answers according to Quran and Hadith and under the circles of Islamic Laws.
Dr Israr is right amd logical
Look at his arguments they are nowhere close to the Quraan and Sunnah. All his arguments were based upon emotions and were irrelevant and irrational. There's no place for these opinions in Quraan and the Sunnah.
His opinion on the Implementation of Islamic Law on the citizens is so absurd and irrational. Things like Beard, Hijab and other personal things don't have anything to do with the State or Islamic Law.
2. Expansion of an Islamic State : Again Dr. Sb confuses the era of the Prophet SAW with today's era. Those verses were only limited to the people of that time and have nothing to do with the modern world. On one side Dr. Sb is cursing the US for their involvement in countries like Iraq, Syrian and Afghanistan but on the other hand he wants an Islamic State to do the same and expand its borders.
3. Treating non- Muslims as the 2nd Grade Citizens : Here also his arguments were totally emotional with no evidence from the Quraan and the Sunnah. This very well talks about his radical mindset which is the most important problem Muslims of today are facing.
@@ShalinaPytI would like to know the references from the Quran that mention whatever you're saying. Quranic verses were limited for the people of that time? I mean where is it mentioned in the Quran or hadith? Also, I don't believe Dr Sab mentioned anything regarding not giving basic rights to non-Muslims. Or degrading them... but still Kindly provide references based on the Quran and Sahih ahadith to support your argument. It seems you're very knowledgeable, so it would be greatly beneficial for me to benefit from your knowledge.
@@abdulmoizrashid158it doesn't need any reference to say that those verses were ment for the people who lived at the time of the Prophet SAW. Not everything is mentioned in the Quraan and the Sunnah. Understanding is what actually matters.
It says kill all the disbelievers whereever you find them. Does that apply to today's world ? If yes, then you must kill any disbeliever whenever you meet one. The Quraan clearly indicates that those verses were meant for only those people.
As far as the reference is concerned, Understanding the verses doesn't need any references. While unfolding the verses the reality comes into the picture and truth prevails hence such things don't need any references.
Dr. Israr Ahmed ❤
Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Kiya khoobsurat waqt tha jab do log samne beth ke behas ker sakte they.. aur ek dusre ki raye se ikhtilaaf ker sakte they. ❤
گولڈن دور ❤
Akal mand or bhot nek tarbiyat ke maalik they bhai iss tarah ke log m ek atheist hun but dr sahab or javed ji ko sunta rhta hun han kabhi kisi god pe yakeen nhi kr skta agar koi muslim ho to inko sunn ke ho skta hai shayad but aaj ke ye mulle molvi sohlvi to islam ke he dushman han madarson me kya nhi krte dr sahab or javed ji jese log hone chaiye
Both of these are our own scholars . Don’t disrespect anyone . In dono ny apni poori zindgi Allah k deen k lye waqf kee . Salam in dono buzurgo py
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Ghamdi is an invalid teacher, and these aren't scholars, scholars are higher in level, they both can most be called students of knowledge, but that's it. Moving on, Ghamdi makes many haram halal, and by effect supports the liberal stream of Islam
اللہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر صاحب کو کروٹ کروٹ جنت نصیب فرمائے، 90 کی دھائی میں ڈاکٹر صاحب نے جو پیش گوئیاں کی تھیں آج حرف بہ حرف سچ ثابت ہورہی ہیں
Maslan kya pesh goyan key
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@@muhammadomer9648k imran khan yahudi agent hai jo bilkul sach sabit hui.
@@muhammadomer9648ye ke imran khan yahudi egent hai jo sach sabit howi
امین🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲
دونوں بڑے عالم ہیں ، لوگوں کے علم کو بڑھانے میں دونوں کا بہت اہم کردار ہے
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غامدی ایک فتنہ ہے اچھی طرح سمجھ لیں
The both Dr.Israr Ahmed and Javed Ghamdi sb are rich information and knowledge regarding the all world history.both are legend masha Allah
Javed Ghamdi, legend? Do you know what legend means?
Ghamidi is Kafir. He says Interest is Halal . He also says Qadianis are not Kafir. He gave many crazy fatwas
Agree
Ghamdi is murtad
Not ghamdi
Muslims should learn from this debate and discussion, this is display of knowledge at next level . God bless both of them
ماشااللہ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب بہت بڑے عالم دین ہیں ۔
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Ghamadi aapa bhi baithi hain
What an inspirational debate from Ghamdi sb - amazing.. Allah pak Dr. Israr ki bakhshish karay.. Ghamdi sb was way to sound and logical but his respect towards Dr. Israr is worth looking at 👍
Kaun si baat achi lgi bhai tujhe ghamdi ki ?
@faizanzar007 please be civilised and agree to disgaree like ghamidi sahab and dr israr sahab. Kuch to seekh lo bhai in logon se. Respect kerna seekh ek doosre k views ki.
Amazing concepts clarity from ghamdi sahab, dr israr was also a great scholor
Gamdhi sahab is only impressing on dawat and tableeg but apart from the 30 minutes of jummah waaz who cares after that ends so we need to establish a govt based on shariah and make common people forcefully folow islamic laws, I have experience of 36 years that without force nothing is going to change.
Dr Israr sahab❤❤❤
Kya khubsurat شخصیت thy Dr. Israr sahb kamal ka ذوقِ علم❤
Dr israr sahab Allah jannat me jaga atta farmaye ameen
Ameen
Aameen summa aameen
AmeenYaRabbilA'lameen!
Bewakoof nasbi moulvi ko jannat kahase milegi sharam kar
بہت ہی پیاری گفتگو مگر نہایت ادب کے ساتھ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد رحمہ اللّٰہ علیہ کی جتنی بھی گفتگو کی غور کریں بات کو سمجھیں قرآن کریم کی تلاوت سے جواب دے رہے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی قبر مبارک پے کروڑوں رحمتیں نازل فرمائیں
Aameen
Ameen❤
غامدی صاحب قرآن کریم کے علاوہ کوئی بات نہیں کر رہے ہیں
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Kia bat hy Dr Israr ahmed ki❤️🌹👌🏻
Lekin ghamdi sahab puri debate me bhari pad gye hain
Dr. Sb kahin bhi nahi hai
اللّٰہ (جل شانہ) پر قربان جاؤں جنہوں نے ہر انسان کی شکلی اختلاف کی طرح رائے کے اختلاف سے نوازا ہے سبحان اللّٰہ
لا الہ الا اللّٰہ محمد رسول اللّٰہ کے نیچے ہم سب ایک جسم کی طرح بھائی ہیں۔ الحمد لِلّٰہ
Dr Israr is matchless
He is Legend
ماشاءاللہ! غامدی صاحب کے نظریات منطقی، گفتگو مدلل اور شائستہ طرز تکلم عالم دین کے شایان شان ہے۔۔۔ سبحان اللہ!
منطقی، مدلل اور شائستہ طرز تکلم بڑی غیر معمولی انقلابی طاقت ہے
اللّٰہ کریم! غامدی صاحب کو صحت و سلامتی اور ڈاکٹر صاحب کے درجات بلند فرمائے۔آمین
Nobody can match dr israr ahmed, such scholars are born in centuries. ALLAH bless him
ماشاء اللہ ❤❤❤
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But Javed sb has much better , deeper and clearer understanding of Islam and Quran
Aameen❤❤❤
دونوں علماء نے شائستہ طریقے سے اختلاف کے ساتھ مختلف معاملات پرعلمی گفتگو گی۔ بحیثیت مجموعی جاوید غامدی صاحب کے دلائل زیادہ موثر معلوم ہوئے۔ اللہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب کو جنت میں اعلی مقام عطا فرمائے اور غامدی صاحب کو لمبی صحت مند زندگی عطا فرمائے تاکہ مسلمان ان کی تبلیغ سے فائدہ اٹھا سکیں آمین
Dr Israr was the one of the best scholar of phase...noone is like hin
Kuch zyada ho gaya
He was indeed a great islamic scholar.
No scholar is greater to another scholar, each scholar effects different audiences, audiences deciding who is the best scholar is just praising own thoughts!!
@@MS-Hussain , bahut jyada ho gaya .
Israr sahab ne tafseer mein kaha tha ki haroof e miktaat ke mayne kisi ko nahin maloom siwa Allah aur uske rassol ke .
Jabki saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha .
Ab kya kahoge inke ilm ko ?
Allah Pak Dr Israr sahib ko janat firdus mein aala mokam Aata frmaeiy Ameen
@@abdulrashidkhan2196 brother you should watch their videos because they did not said that,
or bhai ap ye keh rhy ho hy saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha,
bhai zara ja kar check har tafsser me ye nhi kha gya balky har kisi ki alag alag raiy thi , or agr kisi ki raiiy alag ho to bo bura nhi ho jata
Wao kitny piary tareeqy sy debate kr rhy dono. Respect for both❤
Agree with dr israr Ahmed sahb Allah Dr sahb ko ghareeq, e, rahmat kare aur Jannat mai aala muqam ata farmaye Aameen.❤❤❤
What a anchor❤️ we need these types of podcasters and journalists today
True Islamic scholars in one video ❤️, no need to judge them even Sahab (R.A) had different opinions, it never reflects their negligence but difference in opinions....May Allah protect us from all the evils.
Ghamdi isn't scholar. A person who is against beard how come he is scholar?
@@raoufahmad9967who told you he's against a beard? He can't grow a beard, some men can't grow beards even if they want to.
Nobody is against beard. But there are many scholars historically who do not consider it mandatory.
You want to keep it then very good but dont force other or make it religion.
Best comment I read all day. Both very respectable to me. Both very close to my heart. May Allah bless dr Israr jannah and dr Ghamdi a long healthy life
@@raoufahmad9967Bhai tum wo log ho jo humaray deen mein cheezein fraz nhi hoti unko tum apne uper aur dusaro kay uper fraz samjh lete ho. Jab kay wo farz bhi nhi hoti.
Dusari baat ye keh Ghamdi shab saab beard kay bilkul bhi khelaaf nahi hain. Unka maanna ye hai k jisne rakhi bohat achi baat hai. Aur jis ne nhi rakhi usko hakrat ki nigha se nhi dekhna chahiye
غامدی صاحب اپنی علمی گہرائی اور فراست کے لیے معروف ہیں۔ ان کی گفتگو کا انداز اور مسائل پر ان کی گہری نظر دلوں کو فتح کر لیتی ہے۔ ان کی علمی بصیرت اور حکمت عملی واقعی قابل تحسین ہے۔
غامدی صاحب کسی بیرونی طاقت کی پیداوار ہیں مسلمانوں کے عقائد بولنے کے لیے
Ghamdi aik fitna hy ,Allah Ummah KO mehfouz rukhy
i smell a liberal
Leikin baath to samjho... Wo apni aati rai nahi de rahe balki quran ka hawala de rahe hai@@Asmaiftakhar
غامدی کو پاکستان میں بیٹھے صرف اردو بولنا اتا ہے اردو کتابوں کو پڑھ کر اور ناولوں کو پڑھ کر اس نے اتنا کچھ بولنا سیکھا ہے ورنہ تو اس کو دین کا علم ایک رائے کے برابر بھی نہیں ہے اور یہ دینی علم بالکل جاہک اور اس سے بڑھ کر جاہل ہے
What a useful and important discussion, aisi baaten aaj k mufti karty he nahi hain wo tw bs view count wali harkaten krty hain .. I love Dr Sb , But ghamdi sb ka bhi kya kehna baat samajhne ka tarika ho tw dono he giants hain Knowledge k hisab se ..
اپ دونوں آمین احسن اصلاحی کے ہونہار شاگرد ہیں
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد مرحوم کو اللہ تعالیٰ جنت لفردوس میں اعلیٰ سے اعلیٰ مقام عطا فرمائیے ۔۔
No body can challenge the routes of Dr.Israr ahmed.
His qoutes are always authentic In every matter.
He is one of best scholar his own time till now.
Allah grant him big rank in jannah.
AmeenYaRabbilA'lameen!
Nobody can challenge Ghamidi.
Dr Israr promoted Radical Islamism which is not Islam.
دونوں رہنماؤں نے ساری زندگی اسلام کے لیے وقف کردی دونوں ہمارے سروں کے تاج ہیں، کسی کو کسی پہ کوئی فوقیت حاصل نہیں ہے۔میزبان بھی کمال کا ہے نالج رکھنے والا ہے
اس قدر علمی گفتگو کے درمیان اس فیمیل اینکر کے بچکانہ سوالات نے سارا مزا کرکرا کردیا۔ پروگرام کے پروڈیوسر کو سوچنا چاہیے تھا کہ جب دو پائے کے عالم دین بطور مہمان موجود ہیں تو میزبان بھی اسی ذہنی سطح کے ہونے چاہیے۔
Right brother
بلکل صحیح فرمایا اپ نے.
Right
Right
Ha ya bat to ha duniya news ma ha iak banda pochta tha swal ghamdi sab sy swal
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب بہت شکریہ اللّٰہ تعالیٰ اپکو جزائے خیر عطا فرمائے ۔
Ma Sha Allah Dr. Israr Ahmad
Dono hi apni apni jagah zabardast knowledgeable heyn Shandar or informative program Jawed saheb ki sari bateyn Daleel or history per mabni hey
میری ناقص رائے میں جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب کی گفتگو بہت مدلل ہے اور نہایت منطقی انداز سے اپنا نقطہ نظر نے پیش کیا
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب بھی ہمارے لئے نہایت ہی قابل احترام شخصیت ہے۔دونوں ہی بڑی عظیم شخصیتیں ہیں اور انہوں نے اپنی ساری عمر علم کے لئے اور دین کے لئے وقف کر دی ہے
yaaaaaaar no words of my feelings after listening the debate of these incredible intellectuals💗
The point is simple as Dr.israr saab Said..koi qanoon Agr huga tu wo ALLAH PAK K HUKAM K MUTABIQ OR Quran pak K mutqbiq HUGA..jaisy HAMARY nabi pak(S.A.W) K ZAMANA MAI tha..simple
ڈاکٹر صاحب رحمتہ اللہ ۔کے بارے میں یہ شعر حق ہی
ہزاروں سال نرگس اپنی بے نوری پے روتی ہے
بڑی مشکل سے ہوتا ہے چمن میں دیدہ ور پیدا
Dono Khush-akhlaq , bahot khush-akhlaq hai , ( Allah khubul karle in dono ki mahnat )
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد نہایت اہم عالم دین ہیں۔دین کے لیے ان کی خدمات ناقابل فراموش ہیں لیکن غامدی صاحب اپنے موقف میں بہت واضح ہیں ۔ ان کے دلائل دین کے غائر مطالعہ کے عکاس ہیں۔
Dr. israr devoted his entire life to making people understand the Holy Quran. He lived a very simple life. May ALLAH bless his soul in jannat ul firdous
I see it as a debate kyonki islaam me VS jaisa kuch bhi nahin , Javed sahab aur Dr Israr humaari ummat ke bohat hi shaandaar ullema hain , allah sab par apni rehmat kare inshaallah..💐💐💐
Dr israr the great scholar in the world
Dr. Israr’s interpretation of Islamic State is no different from the Taliban’s-one that leads to intolerance, extremism and terrorism. On the other hand, Ghamdi Sahab’s interpretation is logical, rational and reasonable. I’m so grateful to Ghamdi Sahab for rescuing Islam from the clutches of ignorant, intolerant and barbaric mullahs. He’s a true scholar and educator. A man of beauty and intellect. May God bless him with a long and healthy life.
No one can reach level of ghamidi sb and israr sb
Both are perfect of the way they understand islam
They both can't be right kuch aqal kro
@@saqh.4439 بھائی آپ نے پورا جملہ نہیں پڑھا میں نے کہا ہے جس طرح جس نے جیسے سمجھا ویسے بیان کردیا لیکن دونوں ہی بہت ہی اچھے دین کی سمجھ رکھنے والے ہیں
ویسے آپ کو جو سمجھ آئی وہ لے لو باقی چھوڑ دو
Ghamdi sb bekar admi
@@saqh.4439 WHY CANT BE? SHOULD I REMIND YOU OF THE HADITH ABOUT ASAR PRAYER?
دونوں ھی اسکالرز علمی و قابل احترام شخصیت ھیں ۔۔
علمی اختلاف ھر دور میں رھا ھے۔۔۔
ھمارے لئے ھر ایک محترم و قابل عزت ھے۔ ما سواء ان کے جو جان بوجھ کر امت میں اختلاف پیدا کر رھے ھیں۔ ۔
وھ علمی اختلاف نھیں یھودی ایجنڈے پر عمل۔پیرا ھیں ۔جو اسلامی ریاستوں کے دشمن ھیں ۔۔
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کچھ باتیں غامدی صاحب کی ٹھیک ہیں لیکن جو اللّٰہ کا حکم ہے دین کو نافذ کیا جائے ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب بالکل درست ہیں
I love both Dr Israr Ahmad and Javed Ahmed Ghamdi.. both are respectable and knowledgeable person. Kash humary pass or bi Ulama Karam es terha ky hoty.
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک بہت اچھے عالم دین تھے، اللہ انھیں جنت نصیب کرے۔ جاوید احمد غامدی کی دلائل زیادہ واضح اور مضبوط ہیں اور ان کی عالمانہ سنجیدگی اور اعتدال پسند رویہ حد درجہ موثر اور پرکشش ہیں۔
ارے میرے بھائی آپ کے غامدی صاحب کون ہیں ذرا ان سے پوچھیں کہ انہوں نے پہلے اسلام پر کتنا عمل کیا ہے، سنت مبارکہ داڑھی رکھنے دیں۔
غامدی صاحب جس طرح بیان فرما رہے ہیں اس طرح تو ہر کوئی بیان کر سکتا ہے مگر عمل کوئی نہیں کر سکتا دین اسلام کے اوپر
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک عالم دین ہے اور اس نے اسلام پر پورا عمل کیا ہوا ہے
صحیح فرمایا آپ نے ۔۔
لیکن ڈاکٹر صاحب نے امت کی نبض پر ھاتھ رکھا ھے ۔۔
دین میں اتنا ھی اعتدال ھے ۔۔جتنی دین اجازت دیتا ھے۔۔
اللہ مغفرت نصیب کرے۔ ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب انتہائی بچگانہ اور ذاتی خواہش پر اپنی آرا دے رہے ہیں۔ غامدی صاحب کے دلائل ہر موسم کیلئے ہیں اور نہایت معقول ہیں۔
This is what u call ilmi behes...
Hamen isse seekhna chahiye ikhtilaf kaise krte hain....!
دونوں احباب صاحب علم ہیں ،ڈاکٹر صاحب کا تصور دیںن شدت پسندانہ ہے ۔
They both are great scholars of Islam
Best ever discussion and so much respect shown by both even after having disagreements. Listening properly to each other and not cutting in between
Dr israr Ahmad was a gem 💎
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب کا موقف زیادہ اچھا ہے
me b dr israr ka fan hn lekin yahan ghamdi sahab jeet gae h dr israr muakaml tor per be bas hain
غامدی صاحب کے دلائل مضبوط پیش کیئے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی اللّٰہ پاک مغفرت فرمائے آمین
😂😂😂😂😂😂
ہندو گائے کے ذبیحہ پر پابندی لگائے گا۔
جب بھی جنگ ہو گی ہندو انڈیا کی حمایت کرے گا
زکوات ٹیکس کا نعیم البدل نہیں ہو سکتا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب سے اتفاق
Dr. Israr Ahmad is absolutely right here as he is conveying the same msg that Allah gave to our Holy Prophet pbuh and Sahabas acted upon after Holy Prophet pbuh. Islam is modest according to every era till qayamah
Dr Israr sahib is beyond any expediency. He doesn't know hypocrisy. He explains Islam as it is in the light of Quran and Suunah. Whereas Ghamdi sahib tries to please both people and Allah hence he lets his opinion surpass divine teachings. He suits the people who are escapist and want to please both their baser self and Allah.
Dr. Israel Ahmed He was the best Muslim scholar I have ever heard and seen. He had an incredible knowledge of Islam. May Allah grant us the same knowledge about the Quran and Allah. May Allah grant him a high rank in Jannatul Firdaus. Amen.
Dr Israr Ahmed is a legendary personality
Both personalities are institutions in themselves. Hats off. MashAllah....SubhanAllah.
Interviewer Janab Rehan SB is also awesome❤
No one match with ghamidi sahib's knowledge,❤❤❤
Both are match less.
ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت ڈیبیٹ بہت خوبصورت مہمان خوبصورت اختلاف ادب اور شائستگی کی بہترین مثال یعنی بس کمال ھی کمال اللہ پاک مولانا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاخب کو جنت الفردوس میں اعلی مقام عطا فرماے جناب غامدی صاخب کو صخت و تندرستی عطا فرماے اپنے اپنے دائرے میں دونوں خضرات دیں کے بہترین داعی ھیں
ڈاکٹر صا حب بہت اچھے ہم سب سے اچھے اور بہت پیارے انسان تھے اللہ کروٹ کروٹ جنت نصیب کرے
Dr saab ki baton me taseer e alag hai dosto, Masha Allah and unki guftogo kiaa bat❤
me dr israr sahb ka sab say bara fan hn lekin yahan debate me dr ghamdi jeet gae hain 😢 unke jawab bht umdaaa hain
Bilkul nhi , ghamdi sahab ki boli ek communalism wali hai ,kahin bhi jihad ko ,kahin bhi islami mumlikyat ki support nhi kr rhe ghamdi bas sulah sulah contract contract wali baate kr rhe hain ghamdi sahab .
Baat ye nahi ki ghamidi sahb Jeet Gaye
Baat ye hai ki tum ne saaf Dil se Dr israr sahb ko nahi sune tum west se influenced ho
Gamdi ke fans ko lagta hai gamdi jeet gaya. Mager mach ke aansu se aap Dr israr ke fan nahi bano ge. 😂
Bilkul thik lga
What an iconic episode this must have been at that time. Two great scholars sitting together. May Allah guide us to the right path. Ameen.
Dr israr sb Rehmatullahi Great scholar. From India Aligarh Muslim University Tablighi jamat india
Donu boht behtreen insna or Alm e deen han . But i learn alot from Dr israr speech . There is something in his voice in his command .that emotions that love for Allah and Islam i never see in any other person .
Agree bro
Ghamidi sahib ❤❤ A great 👍 intellectual ❤ a great Scholar 👍
Israar sahib isnt ready to review what he has read and how he understood Sarah Toubaa. But israar sahib is our honoured 🎖 Scholar. We love him and kay Allah Almighty accrpt his efforts to teach us and grant him highest level in jannah.
Ameen 🙏 🙏 🙏
Ofcourse, both are giant but beyond Arabic peninsula, language is barrier, Ghambi saheb is right, it was not productive, as any nobody's care, islam reached in China, their progeny is paying dearly in kashgar, American are justified for aggressions, poorly understood.
Dr israr Ahmed Allah pak janat ul firdus m nabi k saye m jga dy Ameeen
آمین
Dr asrar Ahmad is my inspiration❤
A very very great initiative. Absolutely wonderful interview. Providing different point of views in the most civilized way
Javed Ahmad Ghaamdi Sahab ne Na sirf ye debate jeeti hai balkay logo ka dil bhi jeeta hai ❤❤❤
Both are good
Dr israr ahmad is a legend man forever ❤❤❤
Kia khubsurat debate hae mashallah.one of the golden videos
Dr. Israr Ahmed Saheb ko Allah Jannah ata kare.
In this discussion, on the role of the state, Ghamidi Sb. mentions that the state can impose on its citizens only on matters related to Tawheed, Salah and Zakat. According, to Israr Sb. the state can impose instructions on other matters also and may even order killing of those who do not adhere to the ruling. We all know, that our prophet Muhammed (SAW), establshed the first Islamic state in Medina after which several wars were fought. We also know, several hypocrites refused to go to war with our prophet. Whether these people were ordered to be killed (beheaded) by our prophet, on their refusal to participate in the war? The Quran doesn't say so.
To me the argument of Ghamidi Sb. seems to be correct.
The way they are respecting each other and giving time to one another to keep their point.. ❤❤❤
Dr Israr sb marhoom
ek Jayyed Aalim ba amal thhe
Allah unki qabar ko noor se bhar de
just one word, Amazing, Both are exceptional and logical. I am happy to see both of them together.
ڈاکٹر صاحب بڑے سکالر ہیں لیکن اس معاملے میں غامدی صاحب کے موقف سے اتفاق کرتا ہوں۔
Great insight, thanks for posting such an informative videos
Dr Israr was one of the greatest scholars of 21st century.
MashALLAH both are great scholars, there views and opinions were totally different from eachother but still they didn't raised voice or disrespected.
What a graceful personalities
God bless them both
जावेद अहमद घमीडी साहब का मौकफ ज्यादा ठीक है मेरे नजदीक और अंदाज ए बयान में उनका कोई सानी नहीं, अल्लाह डॉक्टर इसरार साहब को जन्नत में आला मुकाम अता करे
Ghamadi gumrah kar raha he ,Ghamandi ka sara force ispar he ki jo ho gaya ab ho nahi ho sakta
Alhamdulillah very healthy discussion b/w 2 big scholars , May Allah accept their struggle towards Allah.❤
Dr Israr sb what a great personality نور الله مرقده
Dr. Israr (R.a) the sea of knowledge with logics. MA. Allah humare pyare aziz Dr sahab ko jannat mein aala maqaam ata karen. Ghamdi is nothing in front of him
Letting Ghamdi sit next to Dr Israr is like letting a light bulb next to Sun.
I recommend everyone to watch this debate. Such a beautiful video on UA-cam
So much to learn
اسلام اور جمہوریت دو الگ چیزیں ھیں۔ جمہوریت میں اکثریت کی رائے مانی جاتی ہے اور اسلام میں اگر ایک شخص بھی حق پر کھڑا ہوگا تو اسی کی مانی جائے گی اسی لیے اسلام اور جمہوریت میں بہت بڑا فرق ہے۔ حق پر وہی ہے جو اسلام میں قران اور سنت کی بات کرے گا۔
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Allah Dr. sb ko karwat karwat janat naseeb kare aur Javaid Ahmad Gamdhi sb k ilam w frasat se hum ko faizyaab kare.,..