It was BARELY 180 degrees. They were agreeing with each other on around 80% of matters. Apart from some technicalities, as a whole they were pretty much united. Both only varied in perspective on SOME points. And none of the points were AGAINST islam. Both were completely agreeing on shariyah matters. However since everyone has the right to present their narrative, both of them did and had differences in some places..
they are like two flowers in a banquet, they have no opposing discussion , but approach is different ......that is the unique quality of Quran and Sun-nah ....... i think so ...
@ammarshaheen7539 would not agree with 180 degrees, but the aspect you noted about them being respectful is so true, mate. x feeling bad for our times
بہت ہی پیاری گفتگو مگر نہایت ادب کے ساتھ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد رحمہ اللّٰہ علیہ کی جتنی بھی گفتگو کی غور کریں بات کو سمجھیں قرآن کریم کی تلاوت سے جواب دے رہے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی قبر مبارک پے کروڑوں رحمتیں نازل فرمائیں
اس قدر علمی گفتگو کے درمیان اس فیمیل اینکر کے بچکانہ سوالات نے سارا مزا کرکرا کردیا۔ پروگرام کے پروڈیوسر کو سوچنا چاہیے تھا کہ جب دو پائے کے عالم دین بطور مہمان موجود ہیں تو میزبان بھی اسی ذہنی سطح کے ہونے چاہیے۔
@@saqh.4439 بھائی آپ نے پورا جملہ نہیں پڑھا میں نے کہا ہے جس طرح جس نے جیسے سمجھا ویسے بیان کردیا لیکن دونوں ہی بہت ہی اچھے دین کی سمجھ رکھنے والے ہیں ویسے آپ کو جو سمجھ آئی وہ لے لو باقی چھوڑ دو
I love Dr Israr Ahmad Sab ,as he was a great Scholar of Islam.Dr sab provided the answers according to Quran and Hadith and under the circles of Islamic Laws.
Look at his arguments they are nowhere close to the Quraan and Sunnah. All his arguments were based upon emotions and were irrelevant and irrational. There's no place for these opinions in Quraan and the Sunnah. His opinion on the Implementation of Islamic Law on the citizens is so absurd and irrational. Things like Beard, Hijab and other personal things don't have anything to do with the State or Islamic Law. 2. Expansion of an Islamic State : Again Dr. Sb confuses the era of the Prophet SAW with today's era. Those verses were only limited to the people of that time and have nothing to do with the modern world. On one side Dr. Sb is cursing the US for their involvement in countries like Iraq, Syrian and Afghanistan but on the other hand he wants an Islamic State to do the same and expand its borders. 3. Treating non- Muslims as the 2nd Grade Citizens : Here also his arguments were totally emotional with no evidence from the Quraan and the Sunnah. This very well talks about his radical mindset which is the most important problem Muslims of today are facing.
@@ShalinaPytI would like to know the references from the Quran that mention whatever you're saying. Quranic verses were limited for the people of that time? I mean where is it mentioned in the Quran or hadith? Also, I don't believe Dr Sab mentioned anything regarding not giving basic rights to non-Muslims. Or degrading them... but still Kindly provide references based on the Quran and Sahih ahadith to support your argument. It seems you're very knowledgeable, so it would be greatly beneficial for me to benefit from your knowledge.
No scholar is greater to another scholar, each scholar effects different audiences, audiences deciding who is the best scholar is just praising own thoughts!!
@@MS-Hussain , bahut jyada ho gaya . Israr sahab ne tafseer mein kaha tha ki haroof e miktaat ke mayne kisi ko nahin maloom siwa Allah aur uske rassol ke . Jabki saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha . Ab kya kahoge inke ilm ko ?
@@abdulrashidkhan2196 brother you should watch their videos because they did not said that, or bhai ap ye keh rhy ho hy saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha, bhai zara ja kar check har tafsser me ye nhi kha gya balky har kisi ki alag alag raiy thi , or agr kisi ki raiiy alag ho to bo bura nhi ho jata
Ghamdi sahabs thinking is very peaceful and non violent...both scholars are great having excellent knowledge but ghamdi sahab is following the peaceful way to spread Islam and knowledge of Islam while as other scholars are supporting violence ...
Haha seriously No preacher is allowed to preach anything against Quran and sunnah. Out deen is mukamal we dnt need any one to teach us anything from there own fallible mind
@@UmiKhawlah Assalam o Alaikum, Sister Muhaqaq (Researcher) interpret the Qur'an and the Hadith according to the events at which these revelations came to Hazrat Muhammad SAAW. No addition never accepted nor will be accepted.
True Islamic scholars in one video ❤️, no need to judge them even Sahab (R.A) had different opinions, it never reflects their negligence but difference in opinions....May Allah protect us from all the evils.
Nobody is against beard. But there are many scholars historically who do not consider it mandatory. You want to keep it then very good but dont force other or make it religion.
Best comment I read all day. Both very respectable to me. Both very close to my heart. May Allah bless dr Israr jannah and dr Ghamdi a long healthy life
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک بہت اچھے عالم دین تھے، اللہ انھیں جنت نصیب کرے۔ جاوید احمد غامدی کی دلائل زیادہ واضح اور مضبوط ہیں اور ان کی عالمانہ سنجیدگی اور اعتدال پسند رویہ حد درجہ موثر اور پرکشش ہیں۔
اسلام اور جمہوریت دو الگ چیزیں ھیں۔ جمہوریت میں اکثریت کی رائے مانی جاتی ہے اور اسلام میں اگر ایک شخص بھی حق پر کھڑا ہوگا تو اسی کی مانی جائے گی اسی لیے اسلام اور جمہوریت میں بہت بڑا فرق ہے۔ حق پر وہی ہے جو اسلام میں قران اور سنت کی بات کرے گا۔
What an inspirational debate from Ghamdi sb - amazing.. Allah pak Dr. Israr ki bakhshish karay.. Ghamdi sb was way to sound and logical but his respect towards Dr. Israr is worth looking at 👍
dr israr sahab itna payara boltay hain ke inkay alfaaz dil mein jagah banaty hain. nahi aa sakta koi bhi dr israr jesa scholar na kabhi aaiyega. mere pasindad scholar hain jin ko sun dil razi aur rooh khush hoti hai
Excellent debate, I think some very good points were made my Mr Ghamdi, no disrespect to Dr Israr, may Allah elevate him to the highest ranks of jannah.
Dr. Israr Ahmed Saheb ko Allah Jannah ata kare. In this discussion, on the role of the state, Ghamidi Sb. mentions that the state can impose on its citizens only on matters related to Tawheed, Salah and Zakat. According, to Israr Sb. the state can impose instructions on other matters also and may even order killing of those who do not adhere to the ruling. We all know, that our prophet Muhammed (SAW), establshed the first Islamic state in Medina after which several wars were fought. We also know, several hypocrites refused to go to war with our prophet. Whether these people were ordered to be killed (beheaded) by our prophet, on their refusal to participate in the war? The Quran doesn't say so. To me the argument of Ghamidi Sb. seems to be correct.
MashALLAH both are great scholars, there views and opinions were totally different from eachother but still they didn't raised voice or disrespected. What a graceful personalities God bless them both
Both are legends, and so Humbel . During the debate, both are saying I'm disagree with his vision. But they're not saying to other one is Kafir ........etc
What an intellectual and respective debate . Even tough they disagree with each other but no shouting no disgusted face and all things like that. They didn't insulted each other on personal metter... just phenomenal & First time listening javed ghambi this long. man also has some incredible knowledge & perception.. al
ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت ڈیبیٹ بہت خوبصورت مہمان خوبصورت اختلاف ادب اور شائستگی کی بہترین مثال یعنی بس کمال ھی کمال اللہ پاک مولانا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاخب کو جنت الفردوس میں اعلی مقام عطا فرماے جناب غامدی صاخب کو صخت و تندرستی عطا فرماے اپنے اپنے دائرے میں دونوں خضرات دیں کے بہترین داعی ھیں
Masha Allah two gems of Muslim world, great scholars, even after their teachings nd efforts if we don't change us and become good Muslims, then its a tragic situation
The point is simple as Dr.israr saab Said..koi qanoon Agr huga tu wo ALLAH PAK K HUKAM K MUTABIQ OR Quran pak K mutqbiq HUGA..jaisy HAMARY nabi pak(S.A.W) K ZAMANA MAI tha..simple
It is worth noting how peaceful and respectful both are. This is actual way of presenting your arguments without indulging into heated debates. Look at the cartoons these days in the Pakistani tv programs. They keep criticizing and interrupting each other while speaking.
Ghamdi sahab is saying every reference from Quran ...so logics doesn't matter infront of Quran ...first Quran is preferable instead of logics and stories
Dr israr sahab Allah jannat me jaga atta farmaye ameen
What a golden age it was mayn. Both have 180 degrees views to each other but still doing debate in a respectful manner. ❤️
It was BARELY 180 degrees.
They were agreeing with each other on around 80% of matters.
Apart from some technicalities, as a whole they were pretty much united.
Both only varied in perspective on SOME points. And none of the points were AGAINST islam. Both were completely agreeing on shariyah matters. However since everyone has the right to present their narrative, both of them did and had differences in some places..
Agreed and both are amazing scholars no doubt@@ammarshaheen7539
they are like two flowers in a banquet, they have no opposing discussion , but approach is different ......that is the unique quality of Quran and Sun-nah .......
i think so ...
@ammarshaheen7539 would not agree with 180 degrees, but the aspect you noted about them being respectful is so true, mate. x feeling bad for our times
اللہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر صاحب کو کروٹ کروٹ جنت نصیب فرمائے، 90 کی دھائی میں ڈاکٹر صاحب نے جو پیش گوئیاں کی تھیں آج حرف بہ حرف سچ ثابت ہورہی ہیں
Maslan kya pesh goyan key
@@muhammadomer9648IMRAN Khan's
@@muhammadomer9648k imran khan yahudi agent hai jo bilkul sach sabit hui.
@@muhammadomer9648ye ke imran khan yahudi egent hai jo sach sabit howi
امین🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲
بہت ہی پیاری گفتگو مگر نہایت ادب کے ساتھ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد رحمہ اللّٰہ علیہ کی جتنی بھی گفتگو کی غور کریں بات کو سمجھیں قرآن کریم کی تلاوت سے جواب دے رہے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی قبر مبارک پے کروڑوں رحمتیں نازل فرمائیں
Aameen
Ameen❤
ماشااللہ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب بہت بڑے عالم دین ہیں ۔
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Kiya khoobsurat waqt tha jab do log samne beth ke behas ker sakte they.. aur ek dusre ki raye se ikhtilaaf ker sakte they. ❤
Kia bat hy Dr Israr ahmed ki❤️🌹👌🏻
اس قدر علمی گفتگو کے درمیان اس فیمیل اینکر کے بچکانہ سوالات نے سارا مزا کرکرا کردیا۔ پروگرام کے پروڈیوسر کو سوچنا چاہیے تھا کہ جب دو پائے کے عالم دین بطور مہمان موجود ہیں تو میزبان بھی اسی ذہنی سطح کے ہونے چاہیے۔
Right brother
No one can reach level of ghamidi sb and israr sb
Both are perfect of the way they understand islam
They both can't be right kuch aqal kro
@@saqh.4439 بھائی آپ نے پورا جملہ نہیں پڑھا میں نے کہا ہے جس طرح جس نے جیسے سمجھا ویسے بیان کردیا لیکن دونوں ہی بہت ہی اچھے دین کی سمجھ رکھنے والے ہیں
ویسے آپ کو جو سمجھ آئی وہ لے لو باقی چھوڑ دو
Ghamdi sb bekar admi
The both Dr.Israr Ahmed and Javed Ghamdi sb are rich information and knowledge regarding the all world history.both are legend masha Allah
Javed Ghamdi, legend? Do you know what legend means?
Ghamidi is Kafir. He says Interest is Halal . He also says Qadianis are not Kafir. He gave many crazy fatwas
Agree
Ghamdi is murtad
Not ghamdi
Dr Israr sahab❤❤❤
Dr israr is Absolutely 💯 Right appreciate it very much for your Thanks Regards Muhammad Shafique from Tauheed Block Bahria town Lahore Pakistan bless.
I love Dr Israr Ahmad Sab ,as he was a great Scholar of Islam.Dr sab provided the answers according to Quran and Hadith and under the circles of Islamic Laws.
Dr Israr is right amd logical
Look at his arguments they are nowhere close to the Quraan and Sunnah. All his arguments were based upon emotions and were irrelevant and irrational. There's no place for these opinions in Quraan and the Sunnah.
His opinion on the Implementation of Islamic Law on the citizens is so absurd and irrational. Things like Beard, Hijab and other personal things don't have anything to do with the State or Islamic Law.
2. Expansion of an Islamic State : Again Dr. Sb confuses the era of the Prophet SAW with today's era. Those verses were only limited to the people of that time and have nothing to do with the modern world. On one side Dr. Sb is cursing the US for their involvement in countries like Iraq, Syrian and Afghanistan but on the other hand he wants an Islamic State to do the same and expand its borders.
3. Treating non- Muslims as the 2nd Grade Citizens : Here also his arguments were totally emotional with no evidence from the Quraan and the Sunnah. This very well talks about his radical mindset which is the most important problem Muslims of today are facing.
@ShalinaPyt did u get ne wahi from ghamdi .that those ayat were of that time?
@@ShalinaPytI would like to know the references from the Quran that mention whatever you're saying. Quranic verses were limited for the people of that time? I mean where is it mentioned in the Quran or hadith? Also, I don't believe Dr Sab mentioned anything regarding not giving basic rights to non-Muslims. Or degrading them... but still Kindly provide references based on the Quran and Sahih ahadith to support your argument. It seems you're very knowledgeable, so it would be greatly beneficial for me to benefit from your knowledge.
Dr Israr was the one of the best scholar of phase...noone is like hin
Kuch zyada ho gaya
He was indeed a great islamic scholar.
No scholar is greater to another scholar, each scholar effects different audiences, audiences deciding who is the best scholar is just praising own thoughts!!
@@MS-Hussain , bahut jyada ho gaya .
Israr sahab ne tafseer mein kaha tha ki haroof e miktaat ke mayne kisi ko nahin maloom siwa Allah aur uske rassol ke .
Jabki saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha .
Ab kya kahoge inke ilm ko ?
Allah Pak Dr Israr sahib ko janat firdus mein aala mokam Aata frmaeiy Ameen
@@abdulrashidkhan2196 brother you should watch their videos because they did not said that,
or bhai ap ye keh rhy ho hy saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha,
bhai zara ja kar check har tafsser me ye nhi kha gya balky har kisi ki alag alag raiy thi , or agr kisi ki raiiy alag ho to bo bura nhi ho jata
Dr Israr is matchless
He is Legend
Ghamdi sahabs thinking is very peaceful and non violent...both scholars are great having excellent knowledge but ghamdi sahab is following the peaceful way to spread Islam and knowledge of Islam while as other scholars are supporting violence ...
Actually the thing you are saying violance are hadood Allah. Strictness depicted 8n Quraan
Haha seriously No preacher is allowed to preach anything against Quran and sunnah. Out deen is mukamal we dnt need any one to teach us anything from there own fallible mind
@@UmiKhawlah Assalam o Alaikum, Sister Muhaqaq (Researcher) interpret the Qur'an and the Hadith according to the events at which these revelations came to Hazrat Muhammad SAAW. No addition never accepted nor will be accepted.
Do you dare to say that Sahana and our beloved prophet spread violence.
Was was the results of its violence,
Peace Everywhere
@@RSK.EntertainmentNo violence, let the zani enter your home peacefully.
ڈاکٹر صاحب بڑے سکالر ہیں لیکن اس معاملے میں غامدی صاحب کے موقف سے اتفاق کرتا ہوں۔
True Islamic scholars in one video ❤️, no need to judge them even Sahab (R.A) had different opinions, it never reflects their negligence but difference in opinions....May Allah protect us from all the evils.
Ghamdi isn't scholar. A person who is against beard how come he is scholar?
@@raoufahmad9967who told you he's against a beard? He can't grow a beard, some men can't grow beards even if they want to.
Nobody is against beard. But there are many scholars historically who do not consider it mandatory.
You want to keep it then very good but dont force other or make it religion.
Best comment I read all day. Both very respectable to me. Both very close to my heart. May Allah bless dr Israr jannah and dr Ghamdi a long healthy life
Nobody can match dr israr ahmed, such scholars are born in centuries. ALLAH bless him
ماشاء اللہ ❤❤❤
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But Javed sb has much better , deeper and clearer understanding of Islam and Quran
Aameen❤❤❤
Ma Sha Allah Dr. Israr Ahmad
غامدی صاحب کے دلائل مضبوط پیش کیئے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی اللّٰہ پاک مغفرت فرمائے آمین
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک بہت اچھے عالم دین تھے، اللہ انھیں جنت نصیب کرے۔ جاوید احمد غامدی کی دلائل زیادہ واضح اور مضبوط ہیں اور ان کی عالمانہ سنجیدگی اور اعتدال پسند رویہ حد درجہ موثر اور پرکشش ہیں۔
ارے میرے بھائی آپ کے غامدی صاحب کون ہیں ذرا ان سے پوچھیں کہ انہوں نے پہلے اسلام پر کتنا عمل کیا ہے، سنت مبارکہ داڑھی رکھنے دیں۔
غامدی صاحب جس طرح بیان فرما رہے ہیں اس طرح تو ہر کوئی بیان کر سکتا ہے مگر عمل کوئی نہیں کر سکتا دین اسلام کے اوپر
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک عالم دین ہے اور اس نے اسلام پر پورا عمل کیا ہوا ہے
اسلام اور جمہوریت دو الگ چیزیں ھیں۔ جمہوریت میں اکثریت کی رائے مانی جاتی ہے اور اسلام میں اگر ایک شخص بھی حق پر کھڑا ہوگا تو اسی کی مانی جائے گی اسی لیے اسلام اور جمہوریت میں بہت بڑا فرق ہے۔ حق پر وہی ہے جو اسلام میں قران اور سنت کی بات کرے گا۔
This is what u call ilmi behes...
Hamen isse seekhna chahiye ikhtilaf kaise krte hain....!
What an inspirational debate from Ghamdi sb - amazing.. Allah pak Dr. Israr ki bakhshish karay.. Ghamdi sb was way to sound and logical but his respect towards Dr. Israr is worth looking at 👍
They both are great scholars of Islam
Dono he Masha'Allah boht bary intellectuals hain aur boht he tameez sy debate ki hai
Dr israr the great scholar in the world
Agree with dr israr Ahmed sahb Allah Dr sahb ko ghareeq, e, rahmat kare aur Jannat mai aala muqam ata farmaye Aameen.❤❤❤
Dr israr sb Rehmatullahi Great scholar. From India Aligarh Muslim University Tablighi jamat india
dr israr sahab itna payara boltay hain ke inkay alfaaz dil mein jagah banaty hain. nahi aa sakta koi bhi dr israr jesa scholar na kabhi aaiyega. mere pasindad scholar hain jin ko sun dil razi aur rooh khush hoti hai
A very very great initiative. Absolutely wonderful interview. Providing different point of views in the most civilized way
Alhamdulillah very healthy discussion b/w 2 big scholars , May Allah accept their struggle towards Allah.❤
Such a delicate topic, which needs to be in light during legislative procedures in our parliament.
اس گفتگو میں جاوید احمد غامدی کے دلائل مظبوط ہیں
اللهُ مغفرت فرمائے ڈاکٹر صاحب کی آمین
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد کا نقطہ نظر بھی بہت گہرا ہے
Both personalities are institutions in themselves. Hats off. MashAllah....SubhanAllah.
Interviewer Janab Rehan SB is also awesome❤
Dr israr ahmed ❤😊
Ghanedi saib is one of a kind islamic scholar , wish him long life and best of health
Always Dr israr Ahmed 😍😍
Allah Molana Israr sb ko jaanat me jaga farmaye.
He was great scholar
Dr israr was a great islamic scholar.
Great debate! I respect both of their view. Allah dr. Israr ky darjat buland farmaye
Dr israr Ahmad was a gem 💎
Dr Shahab was a gem of a person
Dr. Israr Ahmad the legend.....May Allah Give him high place in Jannah
Dono Khush-akhlaq , bahot khush-akhlaq hai , ( Allah khubul karle in dono ki mahnat )
Excellent debate, I think some very good points were made my Mr Ghamdi, no disrespect to Dr Israr, may Allah elevate him to the highest ranks of jannah.
Masha Allah Dr israr ahmed rehmullah is great knowledge may Allah palce in jannah
Jazak Allah
Ghamdi Sahib's version is more wide and bright with solid arguments❤
What a wise man you are,
GOD bless you Ghamdi sir❤🎉
Not wide, but liberal on the pattern of west...
Wise of the wisests!
Ghamdi enemy of Islam
Dr. Israr Ahmed Saheb ko Allah Jannah ata kare.
In this discussion, on the role of the state, Ghamidi Sb. mentions that the state can impose on its citizens only on matters related to Tawheed, Salah and Zakat. According, to Israr Sb. the state can impose instructions on other matters also and may even order killing of those who do not adhere to the ruling. We all know, that our prophet Muhammed (SAW), establshed the first Islamic state in Medina after which several wars were fought. We also know, several hypocrites refused to go to war with our prophet. Whether these people were ordered to be killed (beheaded) by our prophet, on their refusal to participate in the war? The Quran doesn't say so.
To me the argument of Ghamidi Sb. seems to be correct.
MashALLAH both are great scholars, there views and opinions were totally different from eachother but still they didn't raised voice or disrespected.
What a graceful personalities
God bless them both
Dr Israr Ahmed is a legendary personality
Thank you for this
Both are legends, and so Humbel . During the debate, both are saying I'm disagree with his vision. But they're not saying to other one is Kafir ........etc
Best ever discussion and so much respect shown by both even after having disagreements. Listening properly to each other and not cutting in between
Ghamdi sb argument is very clear and strong 💯
Which point are you referring to?
What an intellectual and respective debate . Even tough they disagree with each other but no shouting no disgusted face and all things like that. They didn't insulted each other on personal metter... just phenomenal & First time listening javed ghambi this long. man also has some incredible knowledge & perception.. al
The ethics of discussion was just too gud .May Allah increase our knowledge and practice
Dr Israr Ahmad ❤ The Murshid ❤️
ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت ڈیبیٹ بہت خوبصورت مہمان خوبصورت اختلاف ادب اور شائستگی کی بہترین مثال یعنی بس کمال ھی کمال اللہ پاک مولانا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاخب کو جنت الفردوس میں اعلی مقام عطا فرماے جناب غامدی صاخب کو صخت و تندرستی عطا فرماے اپنے اپنے دائرے میں دونوں خضرات دیں کے بہترین داعی ھیں
Dr israr ❤❤
Dr israr Ahmed Sahab Salam ha ap koo ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Doctor Israr R.A was very great scholar of Islam ... The Genious
how beautifully both dr sb and ghamidi sb conveyed the message, give dalail without shouting. moulvis and current scholars should learn from that.
Dr Israr sb what a great personality نور الله مرقده
Dr❤israr Saab.ALLAH BLESS u..
آپ نے بہت آچھا پروگرام کیا
Masha Allah two gems of Muslim world, great scholars, even after their teachings nd efforts if we don't change us and become good Muslims, then its a tragic situation
Kia khubsurat debate hae mashallah.one of the golden videos
MashaAllah ❤
Dr Israr is a great scholar and daee of Quran
ماشاءاللہ، میزبان ابو یحیی صاحب نہایت خوبصورت طریقے سے اس بحث کو لیکر چلے۔
غامدی صاحب ہمارے نزدیک ایسے ہی ہیں جیسے اللّٰہ تعالٰی کے کچھ احکامات کو مانتے ہیں کچھ کو نہیں
He understands Islam and think according to logic and era he is living in. Rest are applying what was said for 1400 years ago
Great debat but I am Wait Dr israr
YEH HOTI HY ILMI BEHES.. MA SHA ALLAH - ALLAH ULAMA PE APNA KHAS FAZAL FARMAE.. IN DONO PE BHI AMEEN
The point is simple as Dr.israr saab Said..koi qanoon Agr huga tu wo ALLAH PAK K HUKAM K MUTABIQ OR Quran pak K mutqbiq HUGA..jaisy HAMARY nabi pak(S.A.W) K ZAMANA MAI tha..simple
Two intellectual giants of our traditions face to face. MashaAllah.
Dr asrar Kahn Sy intellectual aagya ...
MashAllah all of them are well educated the two are gems and the anchors are very respectful and literate......
Masha Allah
Dr israr ❤❤❤🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲
It is worth noting how peaceful and respectful both are. This is actual way of presenting your arguments without indulging into heated debates. Look at the cartoons these days in the Pakistani tv programs. They keep criticizing and interrupting each other while speaking.
Logics of Dr. Israr are way better than logics of Ghamdi Sahb.
True
Ghamdi sahab is saying every reference from Quran ...so logics doesn't matter infront of Quran ...first Quran is preferable instead of logics and stories
Quran pesh karkey sahaba tak rookdia lol
Because Dr. Sb talking nothing but HAQ....ghamdi is self claimed scholar
Love them both ❤❤❤
Both ❤
Israr sahabs intellect is another whole level❤
Ghamdi sahb knowledge and and wisdom is clearly dominant on dr israr sahb.
both are great legend .Allah Dr sahib ki maghferat farmaiy
One and only dr israr
And knowledge
I learn from ghamidi saab..but dr israr saab... Thinking perfectly
Dr Israr Ahmad R.A ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Allah ne hum sab ko dimagh bhi diya he..
Sahi jo kahe us ko accept kr lo ❤
javed sb is very much intellectual..
dr israr is a gem
Excellent discussion
When did this debate happen?
Mashallah both of them have the best views. And doing it in the best manners.
Ameen
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب کا موقف زیادہ اچھا ہے
دونوں بڑے عالم ہیں ، لوگوں کے علم کو بڑھانے میں دونوں کا بہت اہم کردار ہے