If you kick someone for 6/7 th's of the time and don't kick them for 1/7 th - how can you expect them to get up and thank you, for not kicking them anymore? A great way to contextualize the issues.
Robert hearing you and Clint talk lifted my soul. It was rich with content and hope. For sure there is much work/ chipping to be done to make changes in our society for the good of all. Learning and being open to change is a first step. Thank you and Thanks to Dr. Smith.
Dr Smith your last statement was so profound and powerful. You both give me a lot of hope in such dark times. Thank you for this talk and all the work you’ve done
We're trying to get the Confederate statues out of my town, as a white guy who would've always considered myself an ally: I've never fought racism as hard as I should, with every fiber of my being every second.
@@bitjockey6265 And what does that have to do about what is happening to day? Those Democrats are now the Republican party who give tax cuts to the rich.
@luvcheney1 You think markets exist without government? Everyone’s just so honest, good natured and trustworthy that contracts are naturally enforced, you always get what’s advertised, products are safe because a seller says so, and no one ever steals? And the buildings that business is done in would naturally, magically be held to safety standards, bosses would be altruistic enough to have genuinely safe working conditions? The roads we drive on to get to the market would be safe without traffic laws, enforcement and infrastructure? I could go on and on, but the money you make (which could be chicken feathers and seeds without our modern government and America’s resources that back the dollar) in the modern market would not exist without government. Duh.
Now that we've cleared up the reasons why, let's discuss the only solution - reparations for the descendants of American slavery/Jim Crowe, redlining, etc.
I honestly do think it’s because of what you said Robert, I feel like our country holds individuality to such a high degree that people never really have conversations about the system. Also the system has destroyed us and hurt us so many times that some of us simply just don’t care anymore. What’s the point of voting or any of this? This county has been on a downhill road for a decade.
What is helpful for white people is to hear about the micro aggressions that whites do to blacks. I heard this on the radio and it was great and helped to understand the issue better and how hurtful and demoralizing it is.
its very refreshing to hear both of you gentlemen speaking truth about our politics! the key is education i think and access to it. thank god for both of you ive been waiting so long to hear a conversation about this subject! its time to make serious changes in govt policy and men like you will be able to do it! hope is all we've had for such a long time. thank you both for what your doing! 🙏
Eloquently said on each part of our history. Great interview. Could you invite your interviewees to list readings in your summary? Thank you for your engagement!
If one person calls to disband a service... then it is one person's bad experience - and it gets ignored. When a whole community calls to disband a service. Then it is clear that, that service is no working for that community. It is not serving them. If it was a cable company - we could sue them for bad service or use a different cable company to get better service. But African Americans cannot refuse to use a police force. So they call to defund/disband the police - because not only is it not serving them - it is actively & purposefully hurting them. We are locked into an abusive relationship... with no way out. We need to hold the abuser accountable and we need to change the relationship. Enough is enough.
As an 88 y.o.white male, Dr. Smith perfectly encapsulated views I have held for years. I had no choice of who my parents were, where I grew up, schools I went to, friends I had, etc. Had a lot of luck on my way to a Ph.D. from Berekeley. This interview needs to be very widely viewed!
@@vwilliams8275 The left has pushed so far left and has become so dangerous to Democrats and liberals themselves that you actually now have conservatives arguing that classical liberalism is now conservative! And much of that has to do with even the right moving left especially on issues of race... The spectrum and definitions of political words fluctuate...Democrats had as a wing of their party the KKK which is now more of a Republican voting wing and hardly exists at all, with its peak in the 1920s of upwards of 6 million people... Republicans freed the slaves, Now Republicans are more worried about welfare and wasting money on universal health care for inferior people that almost never vote for them So why pay taxes for these people? I frankly don't care about liberal or conservative I care far more about the issues and the utilitarian scientific outcomes for what measures are needed for better balance... Whatever that is... I'm actually politically split, political quotient of 57... That is a quantitative analysis from Tim Groseclose... You can look up his political test... With the range going up to 114 or so I'm almost exactly in the middle, then the debate becomes a matter of waiting and imputation, The methodology and how you rank scale the metrics could sway me left or right...
@@vwilliams8275 From my point of view and what I think science outlines for better political and social policy includes the idea that if you fall in line on all party issues then you clearly are just a stupid herd animal that hasn't judiciously weeded out the chaff from the wheat party to party...social outcomes are largely a guessing game and experiment that we need to continue... Of recent note I would say that we should not overvalue criminal thugs that are accidentally killed (unless that cop really did have hate and murder in his heart... His training actually includes that chokehold which in less than 1% of people die from it and as the autopsy shows George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation, fentanyl has killed many, mixed with that methamphetamine I don't know... I know that fentanyl has been called drop dead on the streets! If you watch all the videos you will see George dropped to the ground even before he resisted and was cuffed and pinned down... Like he may well have been close to death that day anyway! The cops certainly seems contributory! Especially those last few minutes when George was non-responsive and he still held his knee to his neck, that was pretty screwed up... This is one video and killing that I would say the ghetto got right! I believe that the ghetto and people protesting the knee on the neck also created a stubborn resolve in Derek... As the cops were stubbornly waiting out the crowd... Which in some sense is blame on the protesting crowd? Of course this will stretch on for years like the OJ case 😒
The "disease of despair" is a real thing which contributes to drug abuse, suicide, petty crime, and other ills of our society. It is easy to despair when you see that the vast majority of the wealth generated in this country goes to only 1% of the population. Some redistribution of this country's wealth through fair taxation and restitution to descendants of former slaves is essential if we are to save our society. Great interview, Clint Smith nailed the issues.
As a liberal I am open to these ideas. The issue is what conservatives, or even moderates, are you convincing here? These issues need to be re-framed in a universal way. Top down systemic financial reforms should be talked about.
Clint Smith and Robert Reich give me hope for positive change in our society toward eliminating racism. A huge obstacle to this change is the fear that many white people feel toward the concept of people of color gaining power. Those fearful people are able to keep the political structure in place, and only when they can visualize and accept diversity in their neighborhoods, communities, states and country as a whole can change happen. This conversation gives me hope for that vision.
Much of this conversation sounded the same when the USA was challenged by HIV, the social resistance, the public dialog. At that time society seemed to be divided over whether AIDS patients deserved healthcare or social tolerance and proceeded from there. Much the similar conversations during the peace movement and the anti war follow up. Eventually, there are those who elect to fight within the confines of the existing structures, and those who want to get to it. We seemed to get to the action phase with social media this time. I think it takes a bit for the middle ground to catch up with the first adopters.
“I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, not the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.” - Ecclesiastes 9:11
I love the show Bob. Clint is spot on, but he doesn't need me to tell him. The map on the wall reminds me of my favorite experiences in CA, camping on Avalis Beach. Drakes Estero was too windy every time I tried to kayak there.
As a woman in a deeply misogynist society, it is hard to have sympathy for racism when we can't even recognize the brutality against women in this culture. In fact, it was the failure of black male civil rights leaders and the refusal of newly anti-discrimination civil rights laws to include women, that launched the women's movement. Men of any color won the right to vote nearly a hundred years before women were allowed. That includes land ownership, bank loans, college acceptance, etc. It 's only been approximately 50 years that SCOTUS determined that a man could NOT legally rape his wife and that a woman could receive loans and credit WITHOUT having her husband co-sign. Black men may be concerned about being shot by the police outside the home. Women are in danger outside the home and inside. In fact, the CDC says that the most dangerous place for a woman is inside her own home. As a single working class female, I have been the target of unprecedented violence in out culture walking down city street, out hiking , swimming, surfing, jogging, etc. I can't even walk freely in my society. I was laughing the other day, while I was hiding in the bushes to avoid a group of males while I was out hiking, how much I enjoy white privilege!
In equity there is bounty. Expand capacity for empathy. Hold two truths in your mind at once. Have a habit of enquiry. Create a society that dissolves poverty. Research shows that ensuring the well being of women is particularly key. Universal Declaration of Human Rights is worth remembering. Kate Raworth’s Doughnut Economics is worth reading. I’m visualizing a world that allows black women to be free, creative, healthy, joyous in ways I can’t even imagine. It’s an insight I had when I was seven. Seriously. I’m so glad this intersectionality is being seen as a ongoing process! Oh thank you!! For giving permission to be on the brink of understanding every day. Perfection is madness. There is no perfect solution to sign up for. Utopias are fine, the more the merrier. Stay on the bubble!
In the founding of our country and hundreds of years after we did not want to deal with divesting ourselves the privileges that came with slavery and oppression. That oversight has cost us dearly. We must ultimately to come to a resolution of this shameful past. We will eventually come to realize that our society is not loosing privilege but rather gaining opportunity.
These deep talks are really good. Seeing it peeled back like a onion. Looks like everyone needs get a hammer and start chipping. The problems won’t end in overnight but we can start working towards a better future for everybody.
With prisons. Most are corporate and for profit, so that is yet another reason to keep those prisons to 90% capacity and making the local police want to arrest more and charge more. Even for none violent crimes. So it is still racists, but also for profits.
Not true, "The United States has the world's largest private prison population, with private prisons housing 8.5 percent (128,063) of the 1.5 million people in state and federal prisons nationwide, the report says. The federal government is the country's single largest user of private prisons.Aug 8, 2018" Unless you think it's shot up to 51% within a year and a half... Yes we need prisons disproportionately for black people: www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/
Great conversation, Our country used its resources, legislation and time to tear apart the black family for centuries, to right this ship, our country and government should now use our resources, legislation and time to make sure the black family stays strong and united, only then we will see a shift. The billions of dollars spent on policing and incarceration of black communities should be spend on education, trade schools should be opened up in hard hit black neighborhoods teaching welding, plumbing, electrical, programming and nursing among other trades for free. Non violent offenders in jail should be educated and have their records sealed so they can have a fresh start when they get out of prison, cops should be reduced and retrained, funding should be allocated to black families to open business', drug addiction and possession should be treated as a sickness with treatment and not jail. After a few generations perhaps the playing field will finally be leveled.
EVERY American should be required to view this video. VERY educational, and vital for me, as a white person, to understand white privilege and systemic racism.
Investing billions in communities is unrealistic. How are we going to continue giving tax breaks to corporations? If we do change government to serve the people, be prepared for pushback from the wealthy and vote progressive candidates into office.
My concern is that our focus on proper language use that the movement asks for can cover up classism that is present in a lot of activists who dont understand that many have not had the educational chances to learn the theory. People hide behing theory and beat each other up with it.
Imagine if we had a bunch of great people like Dr. Smith running for office instead of the vampires we have now in DC. Imagine if people got off the Internet and Netflix and out of their homes to canvass in support of our new batch of great people running for office. We have to do that at the local/state and national level if we are going to take power peacefully. This is now happening in a handful of areas but it must be taken all the way. Our future generations are counting on us to put in the work.
It strikes me in an an uncomfortable spot that Mr. Smith fails to place an emphasis on EDUCATION among all the other inequities that he has mentioned. A newly-minted PHD should have that emphasis at the forefront of ANY of his comments. Has his culturally exalted position already influenced his objectivity?
Yes. Education. I remember groups in the 90s especially school boards and text book review boards who tried to expand the number of viewpoints taught in middle and high schools. The amount of political backlash (yes from mostly whites) calling them unpatriotic and traitors caused most school boards to back down. I saw them then and those now around "defunding" the police as being reflexive reactions by those who don't want anything to change. Even the assumptions and priorities of where we spend money.
Robert, I would like to speak to your question to Dr. Smith, why does he think we here in US refuse to understand our own racist history. Consider male dominance as being a key component. I am a white female in your age range whose life has been negatively impacted by sexism, and still is, now adding ageism colliding with our fatally flawed illness care system. I actually see racism as being more of a covert form of discrimination than sexism. So in that sense, having the horrific videos play showing the violence against innocent black people has its benefits. Racism is blatant in many cases, while sexism is rarely talked about even amongst women. It has been very in my face behind closed doors, not on the street. I think white mean are afraid that black men will tempt their women away. Brother West said, "Justice is what love looks like in public". Therefore, it may be also true that injustice is what hate looks like. And hate is based in fear. On your talk about self-education, I am a high school grad and a lifelong learner driven by curiosity. Back in the day I had to go to the library (small town) and if they even had books about my topics, had to be put on a waiting list for at least 2 weeks to get them. Then if that didn't give me answers, I went to the book store and bought books. Today, there is almost no excuse for ignorance. Knowledge is literally in our faces all day. Brother West put said, "Justice is what love looks like in public". Therefore, injustice is likely what hate looks like.
of course no ethnic group has been abused more than Native People and Black People in America especially. America has been particularly oppressive because freedom allowed for greater distractions. Out of a desire to move upward and onward and prosper people are reticent to make waves in America.
It used to be the default to think: there but for the grace of God, go I. God doesn't play favorites so that's not it. It's just lucking out enough to avoid being made an example by the elites.
I agree that education has got to be brought up to date. We teach as though children are not rational human beings with great capacity to understand, learn, and solve problems for their futures. But citizens who do not learn the truth of history wind up being coopted into twisted thought processes, like Trump's Republican party constantly spreading lies and people unable to discern the truth.
It is near impossible to disentangle a system that promotes prisons and low paid jobs as the only choice for Black people and all others that are Non white.The fight is going to be long and hard ,dismantling this brick by brick requires faith,vision,conviction, that this is the only road to Democracy and Freedom.
There's art in these creations. A symbol should be made of them by decapitation. We need to remember how cruel and stupid we once were... and so many still are. Let them be a seed of awareness. "Off with their heads..." from Queen of Hearts in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland.
I was waiting for some to refer to mass incarceration, the criminal justice system and the link to the 13th Amendment of the US Constitution, "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States,"... So the way I see it; this amendment abolished corporate/private land owner slavery - AND it Instutionalized State run slavery - i.e. mass incarceration & the criminal justice system. Under the 13th Amendment - to make someone a slave - all you have to do is convict them of a crime. The police are just a service to state run slavery. They feed the system with bodies - to serve the state run slavery. And why do I say this? Because it is enshrined in the constitution as a start. There shouldn't be an except. So slavery was not 100% abolished. It was moved from private hands to the state. Secondly when you are found guilty of a crime, more often than not - you lose your voting rights. Thirdly - prisoners are often forced to work when in prison. Forced labor. And in some state they are paid zero dollars for that work. The average across all states is 60 cents for every hour worked. The southern states average is much lower. This sounds like slavery to me. And the majority of people in prison are people of color. They serve longer and harsher prison terms than white people. That sounds like a system of racism to me. And I know - I will have comments on this - that say - when you break the law you have given up your rights and deserve the treatment you get in prison. And I will get comments that prisons are not harsh... prisoners get a comfy bed and three meals a day - they don't deserve to get paid for their labor. To those people - I say - you are infavor of slavery for some people - some of the time. So don't say you are against slavery. Personally I am against slavery in all forms. So I think and believe all prisoners should have the right to vote and they should be paid at least the minimum wage for their work... not zero dollars. BUT without changing the 13th Amendment - in my humble opinion - slavery will continue to exsit in America. I just had to add this, to all of the great points that Dr. Clint Smith made.
Stephen Cotton, I agree we need a overhaul of our justice system. That being said if these prisoners get paid would they then have to turn around and pay for their housing, food, medical and to be incarcerated, and if anything was left over restitution to their victims or victims families? I think yes.How can we give a wage to people that commit murder and then would they be getting paid more than our homeless or those working for minimum wage? I agree we have way to many people in prisons. But some really are dangerous and need to be there. I would resent that they get to go to school and yet people who have done no wrong don't get those opportunities. That's why I believe they should be self supporting, in other words have their own gardens for food, any profits could go to small funding for living expenses when they get out. It's a big mess isn't it and there are no easy solutions.
Right off the bat, 2 fallacies. First, the lie & assumption of "progress", right in the title. Technological progress does NOT equal social & cultural & emotional, or even human nature "progress". Second, the Terror of History. Only 1% of southerners even owned slaves! But more died in that war than all others we've fought since, combined. The "statues" of civilization, are at the same time, its brutalities. Extremes, either way, don't resolve fundamentally, human psychological needs & emotions. The culture in schools! The singlemost hindrance to development, enough fault to go around.
@@vwilliams8275 yep. Constant blame with no solutions. We all understand the terrible history. But it's not the "system" or economics or even race that is the problem. The problem is values (or lack of) and how children are raised
they keep mentioning schools. Instead of talking about funding or moving kids to a better school, why not make the best of what is there? If every parent took an interest in their children's education and worked with the school and their child to make that happen, there wouldn't be a bad school in the first place
Dr. Smith is a highly intelligent man. And Secretary Reich is an excellent interviewer. Thanks for this thoughtful video.
Clint Smith is a very smart person. He is right all the way.
Thank you Mr. Reich, for having Dr. Smith with you today. He has done a wonderful job of bringing clarity to the issues surrounding black lives.
If you kick someone for 6/7 th's of the time and don't kick them for 1/7 th - how can you expect them to get up and thank you, for not kicking them anymore? A great way to contextualize the issues.
Robert hearing you and Clint talk lifted my soul. It was rich with content and hope. For sure there is much work/ chipping to be done to make changes in our society for the good of all. Learning and being open to change is a first step. Thank you and Thanks to Dr. Smith.
Dr Smith your last statement was so profound and powerful. You both give me a lot of hope in such dark times. Thank you for this talk and all the work you’ve done
Very eloquent speaker!
Thanks for your most important work Clint.
We're trying to get the Confederate statues out of my town, as a white guy who would've always considered myself an ally: I've never fought racism as hard as I should, with every fiber of my being every second.
Every one in the world needs to hear this.
truth
And this:
www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/
@762 Goat
And what do you mean by it?
The data of how much more incredibly worse the melanin dense people are correct?
Thank you for sharing this video Dr. Smith and Robert Reich. We must never give up.God bless you both 👧🙏💕✌
Wow. What a great speaker and thinker. Just so much insight and clarity.
Thanks very much for the interview Bob 👍
who else didn’t know about FDR doing that with the new deal??
Remember, FDR was a Democrat.
@@bitjockey6265 And what does that have to do about what is happening to day? Those Democrats are now the Republican party who give tax cuts to the rich.
I@luvcheney1 Can you make a complete sentence, and make it understandable? Duh....
I didn't know. This is changing my view of FDR. It seems that good does not come without evil.
@luvcheney1 You think markets exist without government? Everyone’s just so honest, good natured and trustworthy that contracts are naturally enforced, you always get what’s advertised, products are safe because a seller says so, and no one ever steals? And the buildings that business is done in would naturally, magically be held to safety standards, bosses would be altruistic enough to have genuinely safe working conditions? The roads we drive on to get to the market would be safe without traffic laws, enforcement and infrastructure? I could go on and on, but the money you make (which could be chicken feathers and seeds without our modern government and America’s resources that back the dollar) in the modern market would not exist without government. Duh.
A very thought provoking and interesting discussion. Thank you both for sharing with us.
I would love to see a discussion between Dr. Smith and Coleman Hughes. Two very thoughtful, reasoned, rational individuals.
We need to change hearts and minds
Now that we've cleared up the reasons why, let's discuss the only solution - reparations for the descendants of American slavery/Jim Crowe, redlining, etc.
I honestly do think it’s because of what you said Robert, I feel like our country holds individuality to such a high degree that people never really have conversations about the system. Also the system has destroyed us and hurt us so many times that some of us simply just don’t care anymore. What’s the point of voting or any of this? This county has been on a downhill road for a decade.
Please define "system" and give three concrete instances of how the "system" has "hurt and destroyed".
What is helpful for white people is to hear about the micro aggressions that whites do to blacks. I heard this on the radio and it was great and helped to understand the issue better and how hurtful and demoralizing it is.
its very refreshing to hear both of you gentlemen speaking truth about our politics! the key is education i think and
access to it. thank god for both of you
ive been waiting so long to hear a conversation about this subject! its time to make serious changes in govt policy and men like you will be able to do it! hope is all we've had for such a long time. thank you both for what your doing! 🙏
Thank you robert for this. Please never take this down.
What a wonderfully insightful discussion. Thank you both for this!
Eloquently said on each part of our history. Great interview. Could you invite your interviewees to list readings in your summary? Thank you for your engagement!
Thank you for this valuable coversation with Dr. Clint Smith!
Thanks a lot for such a rich content channel.
I enjoyed the presentation by your guest a lot.
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If one person calls to disband a service... then it is one person's bad experience - and it gets ignored. When a whole community calls to disband a service. Then it is clear that, that service is no working for that community. It is not serving them. If it was a cable company - we could sue them for bad service or use a different cable company to get better service. But African Americans cannot refuse to use a police force. So they call to defund/disband the police - because not only is it not serving them - it is actively & purposefully hurting them. We are locked into an abusive relationship... with no way out. We need to hold the abuser accountable and we need to change the relationship. Enough is enough.
Chipping away at the wall! Great metaphor!
Looks like a windy day from wherever you are, Prof.Reich. perhaps the winds of change?
You and your guest give me hope.
As an 88 y.o.white male, Dr. Smith perfectly encapsulated views I have held for years. I had no choice of who my parents were, where I grew up, schools I went to, friends I had, etc. Had a lot of luck on my way to a Ph.D. from Berekeley. This interview needs to be very widely viewed!
Unfortunately those that need to see it will brush it off as 'liberal'
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The left has pushed so far left and has become so dangerous to Democrats and liberals themselves that you actually now have conservatives arguing that classical liberalism is now conservative! And much of that has to do with even the right moving left especially on issues of race...
The spectrum and definitions of political words fluctuate...Democrats had as a wing of their party the KKK which is now more of a Republican voting wing and hardly exists at all, with its peak in the 1920s of upwards of 6 million people...
Republicans freed the slaves, Now Republicans are more worried about welfare and wasting money on universal health care for inferior people that almost never vote for them So why pay taxes for these people?
I frankly don't care about liberal or conservative I care far more about the issues and the utilitarian scientific outcomes for what measures are needed for better balance... Whatever that is...
I'm actually politically split, political quotient of 57... That is a quantitative analysis from Tim Groseclose... You can look up his political test... With the range going up to 114 or so I'm almost exactly in the middle, then the debate becomes a matter of waiting and imputation, The methodology and how you rank scale the metrics could sway me left or right...
@@vwilliams8275
From my point of view and what I think science outlines for better political and social policy includes the idea that if you fall in line on all party issues then you clearly are just a stupid herd animal that hasn't judiciously weeded out the chaff from the wheat party to party...social outcomes are largely a guessing game and experiment that we need to continue...
Of recent note I would say that we should not overvalue criminal thugs that are accidentally killed (unless that cop really did have hate and murder in his heart...
His training actually includes that chokehold which in less than 1% of people die from it and as the autopsy shows George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation, fentanyl has killed many, mixed with that methamphetamine I don't know...
I know that fentanyl has been called drop dead on the streets!
If you watch all the videos you will see George dropped to the ground even before he resisted and was cuffed and pinned down... Like he may well have been close to death that day anyway! The cops certainly seems contributory! Especially those last few minutes when George was non-responsive and he still held his knee to his neck, that was pretty screwed up...
This is one video and killing that I would say the ghetto got right!
I believe that the ghetto and people protesting the knee on the neck also created a stubborn resolve in Derek... As the cops were stubbornly waiting out the crowd... Which in some sense is blame on the protesting crowd?
Of course this will stretch on for years like the OJ case 😒
The problem is that slavery never ended, it merely changed forms.
This statement is so depressing. Yet so true 😡😡😡
This was a great interview!
One world one words brilliant,more folks in this world would be a much better.
The "disease of despair" is a real thing which contributes to drug abuse, suicide, petty crime, and other ills of our society. It is easy to despair when you see that the vast majority of the wealth generated in this country goes to only 1% of the population. Some redistribution of this country's wealth through fair taxation and restitution to descendants of former slaves is essential if we are to save our society. Great interview, Clint Smith nailed the issues.
Dr. West, Dr.Smith and Michelle Alexander, author of the book The New Jim Crow, should have a seminar series dealing with racism in our country.
As a liberal I am open to these ideas. The issue is what conservatives, or even moderates, are you convincing here?
These issues need to be re-framed in a universal way. Top down systemic financial reforms should be talked about.
Clint Smith and Robert Reich give me hope for positive change in our society toward eliminating racism. A huge obstacle to this change is the fear that many white people feel toward the concept of people of color gaining power. Those fearful people are able to keep the political structure in place, and only when they can visualize and accept diversity in their neighborhoods, communities, states and country as a whole can change happen. This conversation gives me hope for that vision.
Mr Reich: I believe you've found your running-mate: let's get the show on the road!
They would make a fantastic team!
Much of this conversation sounded the same when the USA was challenged by HIV, the social resistance, the public dialog.
At that time society seemed to be divided over whether AIDS patients deserved healthcare or social tolerance and proceeded from there. Much the similar conversations during the peace movement and the anti war follow up. Eventually, there are those who elect to fight within the confines of the existing structures, and those who want to get to it.
We seemed to get to the action phase with social media this time.
I think it takes a bit for the middle ground to catch up with the first adopters.
“I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, not the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.” - Ecclesiastes 9:11
I love the show Bob. Clint is spot on, but he doesn't need me to tell him. The map on the wall reminds me of my favorite experiences in CA, camping on Avalis Beach. Drakes Estero was too windy every time I tried to kayak there.
As a woman in a deeply misogynist society, it is hard to have sympathy for racism when we can't even recognize the brutality against women in this culture. In fact, it was the failure of black male civil rights leaders and the refusal of newly anti-discrimination civil rights laws to include women, that launched the women's movement. Men of any color won the right to vote nearly a hundred years before women were allowed. That includes land ownership, bank loans, college acceptance, etc. It 's only been approximately 50 years that SCOTUS determined that a man could NOT legally rape his wife and that a woman could receive loans and credit WITHOUT having her husband co-sign. Black men may be concerned about being shot by the police outside the home. Women are in danger outside the home and inside. In fact, the CDC says that the most dangerous place for a woman is inside her own home. As a single working class female, I have been the target of unprecedented violence in out culture walking down city street, out hiking , swimming, surfing, jogging, etc. I can't even walk freely in my society. I was laughing the other day, while I was hiding in the bushes to avoid a group of males while I was out hiking, how much I enjoy white privilege!
In equity there is bounty. Expand capacity for empathy. Hold two truths in your mind at once. Have a habit of enquiry. Create a society that dissolves poverty. Research shows that ensuring the well being of women is particularly key. Universal Declaration of Human Rights is worth remembering. Kate Raworth’s Doughnut Economics is worth reading. I’m visualizing a world that allows black women to be free, creative, healthy, joyous in ways I can’t even imagine. It’s an insight I had when I was seven. Seriously. I’m so glad this intersectionality is being seen as a ongoing process! Oh thank you!! For giving permission to be on the brink of understanding every day. Perfection is madness. There is no perfect solution to sign up for. Utopias are fine, the more the merrier. Stay on the bubble!
In the founding of our country and hundreds of years after we did not want to deal with divesting ourselves the privileges that came with slavery and oppression. That oversight has cost us dearly. We must ultimately to come to a resolution of this shameful past. We will eventually come to realize that our society is not loosing privilege but rather gaining opportunity.
These deep talks are really good. Seeing it peeled back like a onion. Looks like everyone needs get a hammer and start chipping. The problems won’t end in overnight but we can start working towards a better future for everybody.
They work for our enemies. Their flippant cocky taunts ...that's how bullies work, and we are submitting to them. Don't kid yourself.
With prisons. Most are corporate and for profit, so that is yet another reason to keep those prisons to 90% capacity and making the local police want to arrest more and charge more. Even for none violent crimes.
So it is still racists, but also for profits.
Not true, "The United States has the world's largest private prison population, with private prisons housing 8.5 percent (128,063) of the 1.5 million people in state and federal prisons nationwide, the report says. The federal government is the country's single largest user of private prisons.Aug 8, 2018"
Unless you think it's shot up to 51% within a year and a half...
Yes we need prisons disproportionately for black people:
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@@mickeydrago9401 American Renaissance (AMREN.com) is a monthly white supremacist online publication.
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@@mickeydrago9401 Why would he? Is he planning on moving there?
Being woke isn't a singular event
We act like we lost the war
Civil war we won if there not with us they are against
Well-spoken
Great conversation, Our country used its resources, legislation and time to tear apart the black family for centuries, to right this ship, our country and government should now use our resources, legislation and time to make sure the black family stays strong and united, only then we will see a shift. The billions of dollars spent on policing and incarceration of black communities should be spend on education, trade schools should be opened up in hard hit black neighborhoods teaching welding, plumbing, electrical, programming and nursing among other trades for free. Non violent offenders in jail should be educated and have their records sealed so they can have a fresh start when they get out of prison, cops should be reduced and retrained, funding should be allocated to black families to open business', drug addiction and possession should be treated as a sickness with treatment and not jail. After a few generations perhaps the playing field will finally be leveled.
EVERY American should be required to view this video. VERY educational, and vital for me, as a white person, to understand white privilege and systemic racism.
Investing billions in communities is unrealistic. How are we going to continue giving tax breaks to corporations? If we do change government to serve the people, be prepared for pushback from the wealthy and vote progressive candidates into office.
Wow, I had no idea...
Did you make good choices or did you have good choices?
You might have 2 choices and they're both really awful....
My concern is that our focus on proper language use that the movement asks for can cover up classism that is present in a lot of activists who dont understand that many have not had the educational chances to learn the theory. People hide behing theory and beat each other up with it.
Brilliant
Excellent dialogue today, Juneteenth.
Yes......The history books.....
Tired of chipping away. Bulldoze that wall.
Imagine if we had a bunch of great people like Dr. Smith running for office instead of the vampires we have now in DC. Imagine if people got off the Internet and Netflix and out of their homes to canvass in support of our new batch of great people running for office. We have to do that at the local/state and national level if we are going to take power peacefully. This is now happening in a handful of areas but it must be taken all the way. Our future generations are counting on us to put in the work.
It strikes me in an an uncomfortable spot that Mr. Smith fails to place an emphasis on EDUCATION among all the other inequities that he has mentioned. A newly-minted PHD should have that emphasis at the forefront of ANY of his comments. Has his culturally exalted position already influenced his objectivity?
Yes. Education. I remember groups in the 90s especially school boards and text book review boards who tried to expand the number of viewpoints taught in middle and high schools. The amount of political backlash (yes from mostly whites) calling them unpatriotic and traitors caused most school boards to back down.
I saw them then and those now around "defunding" the police as being reflexive reactions by those who don't want anything to change. Even the assumptions and priorities of where we spend money.
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Robert, I would like to speak to your question to Dr. Smith, why does he think we here in US refuse to understand our own racist history. Consider male dominance as being a key component. I am a white female in your age range whose life has been negatively impacted by sexism, and still is, now adding ageism colliding with our fatally flawed illness care system. I actually see racism as being more of a covert form of discrimination than sexism. So in that sense, having the horrific videos play showing the violence against innocent black people has its benefits. Racism is blatant in many cases, while sexism is rarely talked about even amongst women. It has been very in my face behind closed doors, not on the street. I think white mean are afraid that black men will tempt their women away. Brother West said, "Justice is what love looks like in public". Therefore, it may be also true that injustice is what hate looks like. And hate is based in fear.
On your talk about self-education, I am a high school grad and a lifelong learner driven by curiosity. Back in the day I had to go to the library (small town) and if they even had books about my topics, had to be put on a waiting list for at least 2 weeks to get them. Then if that didn't give me answers, I went to the book store and bought books. Today, there is almost no excuse for ignorance. Knowledge is literally in our faces all day. Brother West put said, "Justice is what love looks like in public". Therefore, injustice is likely what hate looks like.
of course no ethnic group has been abused more than Native People and Black People in America especially. America has been particularly oppressive because freedom allowed for greater distractions. Out of a desire to move upward and onward and prosper people are reticent to make waves in America.
We have a lot of work to do, for everyone's sake.
It used to be the default to think: there but for the grace of God, go I.
God doesn't play favorites so that's not it. It's just lucking out enough to avoid being made an example by the elites.
How about you all stop saying "American exceptionalism"
I agree that education has got to be brought up to date. We teach as though children are not rational human beings with great capacity to understand, learn, and solve problems for their futures. But citizens who do not learn the truth of history wind up being coopted into twisted thought processes, like Trump's Republican party constantly spreading lies and people unable to discern the truth.
It is near impossible to disentangle a system that promotes prisons and low paid jobs as the only choice for Black people and all others that are Non white.The fight is going to be long and hard ,dismantling this brick by brick requires faith,vision,conviction, that this is the only road to Democracy and Freedom.
There's art in these creations. A symbol should be made of them by decapitation. We need to remember how cruel and stupid we once were... and so many still are. Let them be a seed of awareness. "Off with their heads..." from Queen of Hearts in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland.
go fund a new tee shirt for robert
I was waiting for some to refer to mass incarceration, the criminal justice system and the link to the 13th Amendment of the US Constitution, "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States,"...
So the way I see it; this amendment abolished corporate/private land owner slavery - AND it Instutionalized State run slavery - i.e. mass incarceration & the criminal justice system. Under the 13th Amendment - to make someone a slave - all you have to do is convict them of a crime.
The police are just a service to state run slavery. They feed the system with bodies - to serve the state run slavery. And why do I say this? Because it is enshrined in the constitution as a start. There shouldn't be an except. So slavery was not 100% abolished. It was moved from private hands to the state. Secondly when you are found guilty of a crime, more often than not - you lose your voting rights. Thirdly - prisoners are often forced to work when in prison. Forced labor. And in some state they are paid zero dollars for that work. The average across all states is 60 cents for every hour worked. The southern states average is much lower.
This sounds like slavery to me. And the majority of people in prison are people of color. They serve longer and harsher prison terms than white people. That sounds like a system of racism to me. And I know - I will have comments on this - that say - when you break the law you have given up your rights and deserve the treatment you get in prison. And I will get comments that prisons are not harsh... prisoners get a comfy bed and three meals a day - they don't deserve to get paid for their labor.
To those people - I say - you are infavor of slavery for some people - some of the time. So don't say you are against slavery. Personally I am against slavery in all forms. So I think and believe all prisoners should have the right to vote and they should be paid at least the minimum wage for their work... not zero dollars.
BUT without changing the 13th Amendment - in my humble opinion - slavery will continue to exsit in America. I just had to add this, to all of the great points that Dr. Clint Smith made.
Stephen Cotton, I agree we need a overhaul of our justice system. That being said if these prisoners get paid would they then have to turn around and pay for their housing, food, medical and to be incarcerated, and if anything was left over restitution to their victims or victims families? I think yes.How can we give a wage to people that commit murder and then would they be getting paid more than our homeless or those working for minimum wage? I agree we have way to many people in prisons. But some really are dangerous and need to be there. I would resent that they get to go to school and yet people who have done no wrong don't get those opportunities.
That's why I believe they should be self supporting, in other words have their own gardens for food, any profits could go to small funding for living expenses when they get out. It's a big mess isn't it and there are no easy solutions.
Progress is not fragile, the people who claim to champion progress are.
Right off the bat, 2 fallacies. First, the lie & assumption of "progress", right in the title. Technological progress does NOT equal social & cultural & emotional, or even human nature "progress".
Second, the Terror of History. Only 1% of southerners even owned slaves! But more died in that war than all others we've fought since, combined. The "statues" of civilization, are at the same time, its brutalities. Extremes, either way, don't resolve fundamentally, human psychological needs & emotions. The culture in schools! The singlemost hindrance to development, enough fault to go around.
you are not the same person at your grandparents and great grandparents. stop blaming others.
Is that what you got from this discussion?
@@vwilliams8275 yep. Constant blame with no solutions. We all understand the terrible history. But it's not the "system" or economics or even race that is the problem. The problem is values (or lack of) and how children are raised
they keep mentioning schools. Instead of talking about funding or moving kids to a better school, why not make the best of what is there? If every parent took an interest in their children's education and worked with the school and their child to make that happen, there wouldn't be a bad school in the first place
Here is a channel a lot of you people need, to try to stop the whole preaching to the choir echo chamber:
Red elephants by Vincent James