Dark Mech/Lost and the Damned at the absolute earliest would be an 11th edition release. Fingers crossed GW chooses the actual 'Lost and the Damned' route, so we can get ALL the various 'mortal' Chaos followers, included Cultists, Traitor Guard + a few support vehicles, Beastment Warherds, Dark Mech + daemon engines, etc, etc... Rip ALL the various mortal units from the CSM codex so we finally have actual Chaos SPACE MARINES showing up in Chaos Marine armies!
Personally i think dark mechanicum will just be rolled into the CSM in the future. I dont think gw want more codexes, thats why harlequins and now in the craftworld, deathwatch are going into the imperial agents and deamons may be rolled in to there csm faction codex in the future.
@@peppermintshore demons will probably split into 4 "codex chaos god" which will also include all of their specific chaos space marines.I think this mainly because they do that for aos
Trazyn would work great as a Black Library special miniature that goes into permanent availability like uriel ventris. everyone loved "The Infinite and the Divine" and orikan came with the codex.
"News Drought" / slower release schedule is fantastic, and should be borderline praised. The breakneck speed of their releases, quick planned obsolescence, FOMO boxes that run out to quickly, etc...all of it is only helped by a slight slow down in their release schedule.
All of which is to say that all rules for an edition should be dropped within a few months of the start so that the release schedule is just new models, lore/art books, and balance updates. GW is actively going backwards on the state of their game, it drives me nuts.
Agreed, I aquired boarding actions, books , terrain ect, have into the dark built but not painted, and sounds like my books will be out of date soon. As an adult man, I find it difficult to justify dedicating resources to a game and toy soldiers as it is let alone everything being obsolete by the time I actually get a game in. Just play, I'd guess, and don't follow the meta? Hmmm.
@@justed73 I think ITD and Boarding Actions are still great formats to play in and enjoy, since they’re kind of untethered from mainline 40K as a whole. Yeah they may go out of date someday, but the mini-game that is Boarding Actions can always be played as it currently exists. It’s pretty damn fun.
@@Backstabmacro I still play Mutant Chronicles , Space Hullk and other "vintage" board and war-games. So I figure I have like 20 yrs to get good at it when it for comes back in style! 😆
the focus on jumppack units in the new killteam edition might also finally bring the plastic venatari. I know that the amount of copium I'm currently huffing is unhealthy, but you gotta do what you gotta do. *HUFF*
Honestly, I would believe it; five-Custodes on the sprue, take four as a kill team, have them take on a 'aspect tactics' type team rules with the Martial Ka'tah lore... that can work.
Personally I think Agents of the Imperium also count as a "new Army". Especially if it's something you can actually run as an army not just add-ons/a gimick. So that and Emporers children would be 2.
Wouldn't make sense though. Kinda like the Deathwatch. They're never an army. They can be seen helping or leading different armies, but should never be an army of their own
@@gavinziozios1431Lore has genuinely no bearing on the rules. The Agents codex is less of a “look, new army!” And more of a way for GW to streamline things further and have a property designed ruleset for all of the weird Imperium models that didn’t really have a place in the game
@@gavinziozios1431 Games at the normal 40k scale are never about "armies," though. 2k is a great scale to represent a Deathwatch watch company deploying together to have a big threat, like another 2k point army.
@@gavinziozios1431 "Armies" on the tabletop in WH40k aren't really armies either way. An inquisitor could certainly amass a force of that size for an investigation. Including Deathwatch or Gray Knights depending on the target.
If we get new guard stuff, I hope it isn't a new tank. We already have so many tanks. I hope it's a light vehicle, like a new chimera-equivalent or something.
Rumors are it's Kreig focused and I would love their light tank bodged together vehicle they used during Vraks, called the Siegfried (fun little nod to the 'Siegfried line') and it's basically the 40k version of the Bob Semple tank or the Bruenhilde, another modified version of the Land Crawler that was a light troop transport.
It may be a long shot but I want dedicated Guard melee infantry; lighter and more numerous than Ogryn, but better armored and equipped than the Catachan. Something like the Palanite enforcer patrol/subjugator patrol kits.
Coming after Christmas, should be the first of 2025. Launches with a huge wave of plastic Krieg (Command squad, Death Riders, potentially but not 100% Engineers and an Artillery Carriage) Source: Valrak, who has a 95% accuracy track record in the last 2 years.
There was a rumour that we are getting a new Xenos faction this edition, the person who leaked it on Reddit also accurately spoiled a whole load of other stuff so could be interesting. I reckon Dark Mech will be an 11th edition thing rather than 10th.
Yes and no. I like the breathing room as well but I really really like the roadmap because the issue I have is I don’t know how long I have to save up for my army. So if I spend some funds now on some space marine content I didn’t grab before, will that mean I am in a position unable to buy the thousand sons release when it comes? That analysis paralysis is ironically costing GW sales when they could be making more money by letting us know roughly when things arrive so we can say “I have time” or “gotta get ready for “
@@dratesdragetes777I don’t see how. It’s more “I’d rather make an informed choice between this or that” except GW isn’t giving the info because they want people to make emotional choices and hope we’ll overextend what we are budgeting for the hobby because of FOMO. On the other hand, they’re not going to get that with me, which is why I said ironically they’re costing themselves money. If I could say “you know, the other thing I want is next year” then I’d be more open to using my existing hobby dollar budget. But I don’t use it because I am delaying until more information is available. But, I can see why a “GW sucks at all times” person would misunderstand a middle of the road consumer as being some sort of rabid GW simp because your Overton window is so skewed it’s not even funny
Summer release along with codex or part of Christmas release? Sorry if stupid qs haven't really been following the miniatures/ codex etc for 20-25 years now
@@RSOTM89 with each Codex we have had a big box (battleforce) so with the codex release with new models in them. so like when we got the CSM codex. probably one new model in each box, if not a few new models in each box.
@@NecroGoblin-yl2fxThanks. Been looking to get back into the hobby. Wanted a DW vet team and a corvus so bad but guess I'll wait. Reading Eisenhorn trilogy in meanwhile!
@@jamcam5180 more rumors are BA is next so end summer start fall. SW end of year with big refresh. Kill teams will feature flying infantry so jump packs and so on. next box will be Guard drop trops vs Vespids.
I’m SO excited for an Agents codex. I have the generic and Draxus inquisitors, 2 Henchmen boxes, and a Rogue Trader/Voidsmen box already, plus Canis Rex to ally in for bulk.
For reveal show stuff, Gencon was listed as having a warhammer reveal show but that got canceled. I originally thought that it was because Tacoma was so close but maybe they didn’t want to have a big stage show for it.
If Emperors Children are coming, my guess is, that they'll get redesigned Chaos Bikes. With this "need for speed" approach they could also bring back the doomrider. Maybe even some crazy Chaos Hot Rod. 😀
I would like to see a Necrons Christmas battleforce box. The "Infinite and the Divine" box with a new Trazyn model and Orikan's newer model as well as their supporting armies.
If they did a Necron battleforce my money would be on something like Silent King, 10 lychguard, translocation overlord, a triarch stalker, and a command barge
I agree this is a typical GW move for releases. Drop a major release and go quiet for a time. Once the cash has be blown, reveal a huge array of irresistable products to squeeze more money out. With the holiday season slowly approaching they are in a prime position to slam us with huge 40k releases. They definitely dont want anything 40k related getting in the way of Skaventide/AoS for now. They want this launch to be as succesful as it can be. Im willing to bet we wont get any major 40k news for the remainder of the month and most of next month, especially with the AoS starter boxes about to drop. Nova Open is more than likely when we will get our next major reveal for 40k leading into the holidays. We'll see the next roadmap similar to 2023 with two end of the year factions and then the first half of 2025. For now, we may not see any major releases aside from Agents of the Imperium until after Stormcast and Skaven get their second wave of models
@@FredrickDouglass69 This, much like how WotC (and Hasbro) have a stranglehold on the TTRPG market and the TCG market (with only Pokemon being a major contender and yu-gi-oh being in third place), Games Workshop kind of has a stranglehold on the Scifi/Fantasy miniatures wargame market. Yes there are other alternatives, people crow on about OPR and how its 'so much better' but you'll struggle to actually *find* people in stores playing ORP rather than just talking about it or using their Minis as 3D printed proxies.
Honestly, World Eaters was the shittiest release of all time... so lazy, I wish GW had just deleted our army altogether! No Chaos Lords on foot of any kind, no Termies, no support characters, no Teeth of Khorne, no cavalry/bikers of any kind, no crazy Khornate daemon engines... And watch, with GW rolling all the various Daemons into their respective God codices, they count that as our model release, so we'll get nothing at all except for 3 throwaway detachments, one of which will be a crappy Daemons detachment that will be laughably unplayable. And that's assuming we even get a release at all in 10th!! With the rumors around the Daemon codex going away and the folding into the God codices, I wouldn't be surprised if GW take the lazy route, wait until Emp's Children to 'roll out' the 'new' format, and then rush out the other 3 books within the first codex wave of 11th edition... ALL the mono God Legions really need some new releases to pad out their rosters, especially 1kSons and the poor WE's!
@@keyanklupacs6333 We have the Lord Zufor forgeworld model, AND, the Warhammer+ subscription model already. We quite literally have not one, but TWO unique World Eaters terminator Chaos Lords and yet no way to actually play those models in the game!! WE's got fethed so hard in our release. GW owe us at least another 5-6+ kits at this point, and while they're at it, remove the stupid dinobots!! We want our own daemon engines given back to us, like brass scorpions, blood slaughters, etc...!
Totally dumb speculation just so if it does happen I can feel smart: 3 Agents of the Imperium boxes. Ordo Xenos, with Deathwatch marines (RIP separate army). Ordo Malleus, with Grey Knights (surprise! you've been Deathwatched). Ordo Hereticus, with new Tempestus kits as their troops (Scions removed from Guard codex). I think what will actually happen is like... repackaged old minis though. Good luck to all of us.
I highly doubt they’d remove scions from the guard codex, they’re too iconic for our faction, being our special forces, and our only deep strike option that isn’t linked to a forgeworld unit
Grey Knights will keep their own codex because they are NOT an Inquisition organisation!! Yes, they function as the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus, but they are still their own unique Chapter with their own internal command structure, and they function in support of, not under the orders of any Inquisitor. The Deathwatch on the other hand are simply highly specialised kill teams who typically are deployed in small numbers vs. larger company level formations. Of any of the Chamber Militants, they are by far the easiest to fold into an 'Inquisition book', and can thus also be used to easily pad out the faction roster...
@@drunkenastarte5243 The Deathwatch function similarly to the grey knights. They work "with" the inquisition, not for them. And like the grey knights they have their own organization and command structure. The lore says they can fight as kill teams or as big a force as is necessary for the task.
Good chance that only Emp's Children get released this edition... If the rumors are true that GW is removing the Daemons codex and shoving them into their respective God Legion codex, I can easily see GW taking the lazy route, and waiting until Emp's Children to roll out the 'new' style organization. Would also give GW the perfect excuse to not release any new models either, since they can just say, "well, you got all your daemons so that's basically a whole new model wave release in itself!" Never doubt GW's ability to gak on Chaos players... it's basically their favorite pastime! ;-)
On the subject of the Thousand Suns Automata, in the left hand rumour engine, is that a flayed face nailed on to the armour plate? Could be something for the Emperor's Children.
Hi! would love to see a new mechanicus tier list since the changes did shake them up a bit! (Also, im starting collecting them and Im curious about their model's strenghts and weaknesess!)
I thought they had announced books surrounding the Black Library last year. If that's the big story narrative for the edition, we could see Khan be the next primarch release and a range for aeldari and drukhari, maybe even a new avatar for Cegorach?
Waiting on that Night Lord's killteam has been horrible man. That VS box took forever to release and now the individual kit isnt out yet. I'm very close to buying that VS box at this point.
GW has ALWAYS shafted CSM's. You should've been around for 5th - 7th edition when they purposefully made CSM's into the biggest punching bag in 40k's history, while giving Loyalist scum every release under the sun! ;-)
Space Marine models make more money. If we want things to change, we can either stop buying SM (not happening) or buy the new NL KT to prove we love the idea (Also a bad idea)
We need the following Christmas boxes. 1. Blood angels. 2. Drukhari 3. Voltan with new units 4. Chaos demons (something non Korn) 5. Alderai - no new models but basically just refreshed. 6. Tau - but needs to be very budget friendly. Like 9 battlesuits.
Dark Mechanicum as the leading faction for 11th edition would make sense, The remaining lore for 10th edition might end in the full rise of Vashtor. As a fith Chaos God maybe. For AoS GW changed the number of Chaos Gods from four to five.
speaking as a cron and "renegade raiders" player... my absolute dream scenario would be a battle box of Trazyn vs Blackheart with their new models, fighting over some relic of some sort...
This couldn't have come at a better time, was about to start saving for Imp Knights! Thanks for the vid and good-luck to everyone entering the comp! :)
It appears that the Agents of the Imperium codex will be featuring Imperial Agents, Deathwatch, and Grey Knights. As can be seen on the leaked page it has a lore section on Grey Knights.
Instead of something like a sonic dreadnought, I'd like to see some sort of daemon engine that is like an ode to the old Hell Knight from Epic or even somehow the Subjugator - although probably not Warhound sized, more Imperial Knight sized perhaps. Maybe Noise Marines riding Fiends of Slaanesh too, just to differentiate it a bit from Seekers or even the Chariot options in the daemon equivalent armies. Phoenican Terminator's would be cool too, although I think they need something like wrist-mounted storm bolters like Grey Knights or like twin doom sirens from their shoulderplates haha.
The Codex line-up for the next 12 months better be good. Agents and Emperor’s Children are practically guaranteed, but beyond them I can’t help but think about Votann and World Eaters with half their faction missing or Guard who got their codex last in 9th. The Eldar obviously need new models, but I feel like their rules in 10th are good enough for Kill Team alone to support them for the next year.
I'm hoping that Ilic and Yriel don't get shuffled of to Legends Limbo. The Aeldari also need a Generic Corsair Prince. We might see the Blackstone Fortress Ranger get recycled as a Generic Ranger HQ.
That is a lot for only 1 more year. I hope they extend 10th past 3 years, but I assume they make to much money off of new editions to space them out more.
You have no idea how badly sister players are waiting for that model. We don't care there are no rules for her. She's going right in the middle of the table!
@@RMCbreezy The name of the game is proxy. Her base is the same size as Junith, but with some kitbashing, I'm sure you can fit her in a number of other bases
Isn't this a bit too scared? I'd be more exited that you probably actually get stuff. I'm not even sure if Ordo Xenos ever had a specific themed inquisitor in the past, but it would probably have nowadays.
@@madness9651 schrodinger cat at this point. Thing my DW is integrated into my (otherwise incomplete) marines. I've been having my Vets ride around in Repulsors, for example, and finding minor success only with DW units in core marine detachments. If they get split up, I'll have two armies that are even less effective than before. I'm excited for the possibilities but I'm realistic about what will likely be lost.
@@AzkuulaKtaktu I don't see any reason why anything would change for current Deathwatch. They are Space Marines, after all. Back when I was playing WH40k some 20 years ago there was no Deathwatch units proper. There were actually "Ultramarines Tyranid Hunters", and Deathwatch was just an alternate color scheme for Space Marines, so people could use the Inquisiton miniatures with their Space Marine armies, and didn't have to buy the very expensive (especially back then!) Grey Knights or Battle Sisters. Nowadays, Deathwatch has some own stuff, but at its core is still Space Marines. They aren't going to change that. Inquisitors are probably just going to be alternate leaders for Grey Knights (Malleus), Battle Sisters (Hereticus) or Deathwatch (Xenos), that will allow your army to field Officio Assasinorum Agents or Tempestus Scions, as well as the Inquisitors entourage which includes even more minor imperial subfactions. Maybe Adeptus Arbites (Galactic Police) will get miniatures, but I wouldn't expect it.
I've always fancied the idea of adding the death watch into agents as a main ground troop, and I've also liked the idea of them bringing in scions like how the gsc can bring up to a certain point total of guard. Really go for the imp spec ops vibe. So basically this vid is very validating and basically I TOLD YOU! ... ALL OF YOU aHAHHHAAAAHAHA HAAAAA!
I’m waiting on the Night Lords KT kit to complete my new Night Lords army. I bought the Dread Talons BF and reallocated some of my CSM units; I just need the Night Lords Legionaries to form the foundation of my new army. I’ll probably buy another Jump Pack Chaos Lord too. I’m considering buying the HH Mechanicum battle group, but only if I can use it in WH40K too. Although if the Dark Mechanicum is a new WH40K faction, I’ll buy that instead. The Thousand Sons Automata looks awesome. I’d like to get one or two to add more variety to my current TS army - although hordes of Rubric Marines are currently leading the competitive ranks, and I own 40 Rubrics. I anxiously await the release of the Berserker Surgeon and Juggernaut Cavalry for World Eaters. I just hope WE isn’t the last codex in 10e. Ideally, WE, TS, and Death Guard codices will be released together since they’ll only have a few new model kits, and sooner rather than later.
i was hoping tsons would get a psychic dreadnaught, one of the characters from the 10th edition codex, Hidden ones, or Amitara occult. i suppose a robot is fine as long as its giving cabal pts.
I'm reallyyyy hoping that this is because they are combining the daemons and god legions into god individual codices, with some allied rules to allow the multi-daemon armies that people already have to be playable still.
It's almost like therea been a massive thing going on fir the other side of the warhammer IP. I'd put money on a reveal show in August still probably focused on AOS but with some sort of road map for the last chunk of the year.
When will they realize, that without better lore, Aos will not be able to stand on it's own feet? Yes, the models look great, but without background, nobody care.
The only thig I'm waiting for in 10th is the next wave of votann and the announcement that 11th edition is releasing and its a completely new edition that doesnt priorities tournament play and puts the fun back in the game.
@@drunkenastarte5243 And it works, 40K has never been more balanced then its current state. There is room for more flavor for armies but as far as balancing goes it worked extremely well with only 2-3 factions out of the 45-55% winrate range
imagine how funny it'd be if they released death watch as their own faction with their own codex just for gw to not touch them at all the rest of the edition.
Personally, I say that both Deathwatch and Grey Knights should be folded into Imperial agents, since both are essentially parts of the Inquisition and it allows for fine-tuning of the Inquisitors and their characters, thus giving them some actually impactful abilities. Give them all the INQUISITION keyword, rename the vehicles to 'Inquisitorial ' so that Inquisitors and Henchmen can make use of them, and slap some detachments together, Boom! Codex: Imperial Agents!
The strike forces for Grey Knights are getting difficult to get hold of, I'm assuming they've halted production and will produce a much less modular truescale kit at 20% markup within the next month or so.
The imperial agents codex will probably consolidate Grey Knights, Death Watch, Scions and Inquisitorial Agents into a single codex in a fashion similar to 3rd ed without the customizability and cohesion.
Do not rush them o many codexes drop and are dog crap let them take time and get it right. Out of all drops sisters tau had the best releases orks was good but clearly to good as they nerfed it massively overly nerfed first chance they got necrons also overly strong and they took their time to adjust it. Very aggravating.
I am actually with megakilo2124...They should release most if not all codexes at the start of the edition, like any sane company would. Its bonkers to me, that some people have to wait until the end of the edition for their codex only for it to be irrelevant half a year later. They have enough manpower to create and adjust codexes considering that their whole game consist of the main rule set + minis + codex...but i am pretty sure that they wont do this as for the reason why? only the god emperror would know
@haraldbredsdorff2699 dark angels fumble admech fumble custodes fumble I'd argue news one that we're ridiculous ways of broken fumbles. Not to mention alot of the release Detachments being down right bad champions of russ sons deathguard granted they fixed them release loafs of fumbles throughout 10th
@@fateweaver9844 Be'lakor can function as a stand alone PDF data slate until GW releases a proper Lost and the Damned army. If Valrak's rumors are saying, "Daemons codex is going away and all daemonic units will be folded into their respective God-aligned Legion books", then it's very likely at least 95% true!
@@fateweaver9844 he’s a character for sigmar. They might split up the armies by aligned god and who knows what they could do with Belakor. He could be allowed in or not. Just the rumors
@@Kakashi-ip8mg It won't happen. This rumor has been spread by Valrak for at least 3 editions. Dudes a clown and people need to stop listening. After all the named DPs aren't in 40k but exist in AoS
Dear Emperor, The long vigil has faced heavy casualties and we would like greater funding to support our operations. We would like more advanced munitions in order to face the evolving threats on the modern battlefield. With love, Deathwatch
I reallyyyyy hope they don't have these codices carry through into 11th edition. If that happens it means the psychic phase hasn't come back and that would be a big shame.
I doubt dark mechanicum will be this edition since Vashtorr is already in the CSM codex with his own flavored detachment
Maybe appear in this edition, and get Codex in next edition🤔？push up two factions out sounds a bit rough to me🤔
@@The_Penguin_8964nope
Dark Mech/Lost and the Damned at the absolute earliest would be an 11th edition release.
Fingers crossed GW chooses the actual 'Lost and the Damned' route, so we can get ALL the various 'mortal' Chaos followers, included Cultists, Traitor Guard + a few support vehicles, Beastment Warherds, Dark Mech + daemon engines, etc, etc...
Rip ALL the various mortal units from the CSM codex so we finally have actual Chaos SPACE MARINES showing up in Chaos Marine armies!
Personally i think dark mechanicum will just be rolled into the CSM in the future. I dont think gw want more codexes, thats why harlequins and now in the craftworld, deathwatch are going into the imperial agents and deamons may be rolled in to there csm faction codex in the future.
@@peppermintshore demons will probably split into 4 "codex chaos god" which will also include all of their specific chaos space marines.I think this mainly because they do that for aos
Trazyn would work great as a Black Library special miniature that goes into permanent availability like uriel ventris.
everyone loved "The Infinite and the Divine" and orikan came with the codex.
Inquisitor Eishorn was the first one of these...
"News Drought" / slower release schedule is fantastic, and should be borderline praised. The breakneck speed of their releases, quick planned obsolescence, FOMO boxes that run out to quickly, etc...all of it is only helped by a slight slow down in their release schedule.
Guard players waited five years for a book they got to use for less than one.
All of which is to say that all rules for an edition should be dropped within a few months of the start so that the release schedule is just new models, lore/art books, and balance updates.
GW is actively going backwards on the state of their game, it drives me nuts.
Agreed, I aquired boarding actions, books , terrain ect, have into the dark built but not painted, and sounds like my books will be out of date soon. As an adult man, I find it difficult to justify dedicating resources to a game and toy soldiers as it is let alone everything being obsolete by the time I actually get a game in. Just play, I'd guess, and don't follow the meta? Hmmm.
@@justed73 I think ITD and Boarding Actions are still great formats to play in and enjoy, since they’re kind of untethered from mainline 40K as a whole. Yeah they may go out of date someday, but the mini-game that is Boarding Actions can always be played as it currently exists. It’s pretty damn fun.
@@Backstabmacro I still play Mutant Chronicles , Space Hullk and other "vintage" board and war-games. So I figure I have like 20 yrs to get good at it when it for comes back in style! 😆
the focus on jumppack units in the new killteam edition might also finally bring the plastic venatari. I know that the amount of copium I'm currently huffing is unhealthy, but you gotta do what you gotta do. *HUFF*
That would be a cool kill team with minimal effort on development
Honestly, I would believe it; five-Custodes on the sprue, take four as a kill team, have them take on a 'aspect tactics' type team rules with the Martial Ka'tah lore... that can work.
it'd be great to see inquisitorial stormtroopers come back with the new agents codex
And the zealots too!
Agreed. Great spot to put Scions in all honesty.
Personally I think Agents of the Imperium also count as a "new Army". Especially if it's something you can actually run as an army not just add-ons/a gimick. So that and Emporers children would be 2.
Wouldn't make sense though. Kinda like the Deathwatch. They're never an army. They can be seen helping or leading different armies, but should never be an army of their own
@@gavinziozios1431Lore has genuinely no bearing on the rules. The Agents codex is less of a “look, new army!” And more of a way for GW to streamline things further and have a property designed ruleset for all of the weird Imperium models that didn’t really have a place in the game
@@gavinziozios1431 Games at the normal 40k scale are never about "armies," though. 2k is a great scale to represent a Deathwatch watch company deploying together to have a big threat, like another 2k point army.
@@gavinziozios1431 "Armies" on the tabletop in WH40k aren't really armies either way. An inquisitor could certainly amass a force of that size for an investigation. Including Deathwatch or Gray Knights depending on the target.
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If we get new guard stuff, I hope it isn't a new tank. We already have so many tanks. I hope it's a light vehicle, like a new chimera-equivalent or something.
Rumors are it's Kreig focused and I would love their light tank bodged together vehicle they used during Vraks, called the Siegfried (fun little nod to the 'Siegfried line') and it's basically the 40k version of the Bob Semple tank or the Bruenhilde, another modified version of the Land Crawler that was a light troop transport.
@@luketfer that's cool
I'd hope for Iron guard, Desert raiders or Ice warriors. Maybe an actual Gaunts ghosts Guard or the Last chancers maybe for Kill team
It may be a long shot but I want dedicated Guard melee infantry; lighter and more numerous than Ogryn, but better armored and equipped than the Catachan. Something like the Palanite enforcer patrol/subjugator patrol kits.
As an ork player can we have your tank and its datasheet as we don't have a tank
TSons automata is completely on brand with their lore. The Horus Heresy and Ahriman books are full of them.
I do not play Sisters. I am getting that model.
This ^
I play Sisters
I play Sisters. I am not getting her. No rules, no use for her. She is beautiful but I'd be the only one who would see her.
Me neither, I’m definitely getting it!
@@UnalloyedMaleniashe can easily be proxied as something of the same base size.
Astra Militarum Codex soon please!
Coming after Christmas, should be the first of 2025. Launches with a huge wave of plastic Krieg (Command squad, Death Riders, potentially but not 100% Engineers and an Artillery Carriage) Source: Valrak, who has a 95% accuracy track record in the last 2 years.
Will be released in the last 2 weeks of 10th in March 2026
Nobody can say for sure, but rumors have a box like the Kroot one, is all Krieg (I will try and take one myself in that case)
@@elRandomTk what about the 25 year old catachans who desperately need an update
@@Chasemcloud5745 next edition
There was a rumour that we are getting a new Xenos faction this edition, the person who leaked it on Reddit also accurately spoiled a whole load of other stuff so could be interesting. I reckon Dark Mech will be an 11th edition thing rather than 10th.
Am I the only one who likes not bombarded with new stuff?
Nah, I'm with you. I was getting weary of the constant push of "buy everything".
Especially after the prices went up so much.
Yes and no. I like the breathing room as well but I really really like the roadmap because the issue I have is I don’t know how long I have to save up for my army.
So if I spend some funds now on some space marine content I didn’t grab before, will that mean I am in a position unable to buy the thousand sons release when it comes? That analysis paralysis is ironically costing GW sales when they could be making more money by letting us know roughly when things arrive so we can say “I have time” or “gotta get ready for “
I mean as a one army player, don't feel very bombarded lol.
@@timunderbakke8756 it sounds like GW has you by the balls.
@@dratesdragetes777I don’t see how. It’s more “I’d rather make an informed choice between this or that” except GW isn’t giving the info because they want people to make emotional choices and hope we’ll overextend what we are budgeting for the hobby because of FOMO.
On the other hand, they’re not going to get that with me, which is why I said ironically they’re costing themselves money. If I could say “you know, the other thing I want is next year” then I’d be more open to using my existing hobby dollar budget. But I don’t use it because I am delaying until more information is available.
But, I can see why a “GW sucks at all times” person would misunderstand a middle of the road consumer as being some sort of rabid GW simp because your Overton window is so skewed it’s not even funny
rumors for Inquisition is.
2-3 battleforce box to promote the different sides of the inquisition.
and Corteaz model
Deathwatch rolled into Inquisition
Summer release along with codex or part of Christmas release? Sorry if stupid qs haven't really been following the miniatures/ codex etc for 20-25 years now
@@RSOTM89 with each Codex we have had a big box (battleforce)
so with the codex release with new models in them.
so like when we got the CSM codex.
probably one new model in each box, if not a few new models in each box.
@@NecroGoblin-yl2fxThanks. Been looking to get back into the hobby. Wanted a DW vet team and a corvus so bad but guess I'll wait. Reading Eisenhorn trilogy in meanwhile!
You were spot on.
What else do you know?
Lol
@@jamcam5180 more rumors are BA is next so end summer start fall.
SW end of year with big refresh.
Kill teams will feature flying infantry so jump packs and so on.
next box will be Guard drop trops vs Vespids.
I’m SO excited for an Agents codex.
I have the generic and Draxus inquisitors, 2 Henchmen boxes, and a Rogue Trader/Voidsmen box already, plus Canis Rex to ally in for bulk.
For reveal show stuff, Gencon was listed as having a warhammer reveal show but that got canceled. I originally thought that it was because Tacoma was so close but maybe they didn’t want to have a big stage show for it.
If Emperors Children are coming, my guess is, that they'll get redesigned Chaos Bikes. With this "need for speed" approach they could also bring back the doomrider.
Maybe even some crazy Chaos Hot Rod. 😀
I would like to see a Necrons Christmas battleforce box. The "Infinite and the Divine" box with a new Trazyn model and Orikan's newer model as well as their supporting armies.
Christmas battleforces that are the first release of a new model: zero
If they did a Necron battleforce my money would be on something like Silent King, 10 lychguard, translocation overlord, a triarch stalker, and a command barge
I agree this is a typical GW move for releases. Drop a major release and go quiet for a time. Once the cash has be blown, reveal a huge array of irresistable products to squeeze more money out. With the holiday season slowly approaching they are in a prime position to slam us with huge 40k releases. They definitely dont want anything 40k related getting in the way of Skaventide/AoS for now. They want this launch to be as succesful as it can be. Im willing to bet we wont get any major 40k news for the remainder of the month and most of next month, especially with the AoS starter boxes about to drop. Nova Open is more than likely when we will get our next major reveal for 40k leading into the holidays. We'll see the next roadmap similar to 2023 with two end of the year factions and then the first half of 2025. For now, we may not see any major releases aside from Agents of the Imperium until after Stormcast and Skaven get their second wave of models
10th feels like a flavourless edition. Keeping us in the dark right now. Maybe internal issues? I worry about the future of this company.
They will continue to make massive profits. They own the market.
@@FredrickDouglass69 This, much like how WotC (and Hasbro) have a stranglehold on the TTRPG market and the TCG market (with only Pokemon being a major contender and yu-gi-oh being in third place), Games Workshop kind of has a stranglehold on the Scifi/Fantasy miniatures wargame market. Yes there are other alternatives, people crow on about OPR and how its 'so much better' but you'll struggle to actually *find* people in stores playing ORP rather than just talking about it or using their Minis as 3D printed proxies.
I'd also love a World Eaters Terminator Captain so I can finally use that Azrakh model we got last year lmao
Honestly, World Eaters was the shittiest release of all time... so lazy, I wish GW had just deleted our army altogether!
No Chaos Lords on foot of any kind, no Termies, no support characters, no Teeth of Khorne, no cavalry/bikers of any kind, no crazy Khornate daemon engines...
And watch, with GW rolling all the various Daemons into their respective God codices, they count that as our model release, so we'll get nothing at all except for 3 throwaway detachments, one of which will be a crappy Daemons detachment that will be laughably unplayable.
And that's assuming we even get a release at all in 10th!!
With the rumors around the Daemon codex going away and the folding into the God codices, I wouldn't be surprised if GW take the lazy route, wait until Emp's Children to 'roll out' the 'new' format, and then rush out the other 3 books within the first codex wave of 11th edition...
ALL the mono God Legions really need some new releases to pad out their rosters, especially 1kSons and the poor WE's!
A what? Surely you mean a chaos lord and I doubt you'll get a new termie lord before csm.
@@keyanklupacs6333 We have the Lord Zufor forgeworld model, AND, the Warhammer+ subscription model already.
We quite literally have not one, but TWO unique World Eaters terminator Chaos Lords and yet no way to actually play those models in the game!!
WE's got fethed so hard in our release. GW owe us at least another 5-6+ kits at this point, and while they're at it, remove the stupid dinobots!! We want our own daemon engines given back to us, like brass scorpions, blood slaughters, etc...!
Totally dumb speculation just so if it does happen I can feel smart: 3 Agents of the Imperium boxes. Ordo Xenos, with Deathwatch marines (RIP separate army). Ordo Malleus, with Grey Knights (surprise! you've been Deathwatched). Ordo Hereticus, with new Tempestus kits as their troops (Scions removed from Guard codex). I think what will actually happen is like... repackaged old minis though. Good luck to all of us.
I highly doubt they’d remove scions from the guard codex, they’re too iconic for our faction, being our special forces, and our only deep strike option that isn’t linked to a forgeworld unit
Grey Knights will keep their own codex because they are NOT an Inquisition organisation!!
Yes, they function as the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus, but they are still their own unique Chapter with their own internal command structure, and they function in support of, not under the orders of any Inquisitor.
The Deathwatch on the other hand are simply highly specialised kill teams who typically are deployed in small numbers vs. larger company level formations.
Of any of the Chamber Militants, they are by far the easiest to fold into an 'Inquisition book', and can thus also be used to easily pad out the faction roster...
@@drunkenastarte5243 The Deathwatch function similarly to the grey knights. They work "with" the inquisition, not for them. And like the grey knights they have their own organization and command structure. The lore says they can fight as kill teams or as big a force as is necessary for the task.
Death Guard coming last, I'm gonna cry
Good chance that only Emp's Children get released this edition...
If the rumors are true that GW is removing the Daemons codex and shoving them into their respective God Legion codex, I can easily see GW taking the lazy route, and waiting until Emp's Children to roll out the 'new' style organization.
Would also give GW the perfect excuse to not release any new models either, since they can just say, "well, you got all your daemons so that's basically a whole new model wave release in itself!"
Never doubt GW's ability to gak on Chaos players... it's basically their favorite pastime! ;-)
On the subject of the Thousand Suns Automata, in the left hand rumour engine, is that a flayed face nailed on to the armour plate? Could be something for the Emperor's Children.
Doomrider better return with the emperors children, amazing song and all
Hi! would love to see a new mechanicus tier list since the changes did shake them up a bit! (Also, im starting collecting them and Im curious about their model's strenghts and weaknesess!)
Could one of the Christmas battle force box sets be Necrons with Trazyn the lnfinite as the HQ choice.
It would be nice but Trazyn is an old resin model which at least in recent memory, are never in xmas box sets. Fingers crossed he gets an update soon
I thought they had announced books surrounding the Black Library last year. If that's the big story narrative for the edition, we could see Khan be the next primarch release and a range for aeldari and drukhari, maybe even a new avatar for Cegorach?
Waiting on that Night Lord's killteam has been horrible man. That VS box took forever to release and now the individual kit isnt out yet. I'm very close to buying that VS box at this point.
It would be awesome to get updated grey knight models
Yeah, but most rumours say they will get updated only in 11th
Seems hardly fair that legion-specific upgrade sprues are only available separately for loyalist space marines.
GW has ALWAYS shafted CSM's.
You should've been around for 5th - 7th edition when they purposefully made CSM's into the biggest punching bag in 40k's history, while giving Loyalist scum every release under the sun! ;-)
Space Marine models make more money. If we want things to change, we can either stop buying SM (not happening) or buy the new NL KT to prove we love the idea (Also a bad idea)
3d printed stuff to kitbash on dude, that's what I do, then green stuff for mutations etc
@@cadettrev762 In my meta Chaos Space Marines and Xenos are more popular for some reason.
We need the following Christmas boxes.
1. Blood angels.
2. Drukhari
3. Voltan with new units
4. Chaos demons (something non Korn)
5. Alderai - no new models but basically just refreshed.
6. Tau - but needs to be very budget friendly. Like 9 battlesuits.
Dark Mechanicum as the leading faction for 11th edition would make sense, The remaining lore for 10th edition might end in the full rise of Vashtor. As a fith Chaos God maybe. For AoS GW changed the number of Chaos Gods from four to five.
Current rumors are that Orks are going to be the main antagonist faction for 11th edition.
RIP in Peace Desuwatch, Long lives the Inquisitions!
Why do you writed "Rest In Peace in Peace" ?
@@adamklasa7270common internet meme on the phrase. “RIP IN PEACE.” Few years old now.
@@Backstabmacro ok, sorry for my ignorance:)
@@adamklasa7270 no need to be sorry, the internet slang rabbit hole is deep, dark, and full of terrors lol
@@Backstabmacro like the warp
speaking as a cron and "renegade raiders" player... my absolute dream scenario would be a battle box of Trazyn vs Blackheart with their new models, fighting over some relic of some sort...
Can't wait for the end of this edition ! I want 11th with a total new set of rules.
Is this a joke? I mean I totally loathe 10th and the whole experience of it
This couldn't have come at a better time, was about to start saving for Imp Knights! Thanks for the vid and good-luck to everyone entering the comp!
:)
It appears that the Agents of the Imperium codex will be featuring Imperial Agents, Deathwatch, and Grey Knights. As can be seen on the leaked page it has a lore section on Grey Knights.
I'm so excited for vespids
I think the Ammo box full of Grenades scream Ratlings .
Do a dual kit with Snipers and Sappers, think the Ratling Twins in Blackstone Fortress...
I was told yesterday that GW has to end finecast to comply with the English equivalents of the environmental protection agency by 2025
Instead of something like a sonic dreadnought, I'd like to see some sort of daemon engine that is like an ode to the old Hell Knight from Epic or even somehow the Subjugator - although probably not Warhound sized, more Imperial Knight sized perhaps. Maybe Noise Marines riding Fiends of Slaanesh too, just to differentiate it a bit from Seekers or even the Chariot options in the daemon equivalent armies.
Phoenican Terminator's would be cool too, although I think they need something like wrist-mounted storm bolters like Grey Knights or like twin doom sirens from their shoulderplates haha.
I did most of Imperium and waiting from EU for the new Combat Patrol magazine!
The Codex line-up for the next 12 months better be good. Agents and Emperor’s Children are practically guaranteed, but beyond them I can’t help but think about Votann and World Eaters with half their faction missing or Guard who got their codex last in 9th. The Eldar obviously need new models, but I feel like their rules in 10th are good enough for Kill Team alone to support them for the next year.
I'm hoping that Ilic and Yriel don't get shuffled of to Legends Limbo.
The Aeldari also need a Generic Corsair Prince. We might see the Blackstone Fortress Ranger get recycled as a Generic Ranger HQ.
I just started 40k for real this time and I'm hyped for the World Eater stuff as that's my choice to start with!
After Assassinorum: Kingmaker, I do expect a 5th mechanicus-style assassin too. Name of house escapes me ATM.
Very cool miniature. I would have taken off the flame but it's fine if well painted
Yeah I was just thinking about this, realizing that since Sisters/GSC we haven't even gotten a hint yet
That is a lot for only 1 more year. I hope they extend 10th past 3 years, but I assume they make to much money off of new editions to space them out more.
OMG we've got a looooong stretch of Rules Team B incoming. I've got my popcorn starting for the nerf show...
I believe the two rumor engines were the neceomunda character in battle suit that was revealed recently
You have no idea how badly sister players are waiting for that model. We don't care there are no rules for her. She's going right in the middle of the table!
Right? Like people care about modeling for advantage but.. what if its in their favor?
@@RMCbreezy The name of the game is proxy. Her base is the same size as Junith, but with some kitbashing, I'm sure you can fit her in a number of other bases
I actually think it's good to slow down the releases. Gives time for stuff to sink in and it increases the longevity of the game
Mordrak is coming back this year, for real this time, he must! my ghosty bois have 100 years of dust collecting on them
I started in 10th and my main faction is Deathwatch. If i cant do a full astartes DW army ill be mad as hell.
Isn't this a bit too scared? I'd be more exited that you probably actually get stuff. I'm not even sure if Ordo Xenos ever had a specific themed inquisitor in the past, but it would probably have nowadays.
@@madness9651 schrodinger cat at this point. Thing my DW is integrated into my (otherwise incomplete) marines. I've been having my Vets ride around in Repulsors, for example, and finding minor success only with DW units in core marine detachments. If they get split up, I'll have two armies that are even less effective than before. I'm excited for the possibilities but I'm realistic about what will likely be lost.
And everything is painted deathwatch. So I'll have two halves of the same army that aren't allowed to be a whole army?
@@AzkuulaKtaktu I don't see any reason why anything would change for current Deathwatch. They are Space Marines, after all.
Back when I was playing WH40k some 20 years ago there was no Deathwatch units proper. There were actually "Ultramarines Tyranid Hunters", and Deathwatch was just an alternate color scheme for Space Marines, so people could use the Inquisiton miniatures with their Space Marine armies, and didn't have to buy the very expensive (especially back then!) Grey Knights or Battle Sisters.
Nowadays, Deathwatch has some own stuff, but at its core is still Space Marines. They aren't going to change that. Inquisitors are probably just going to be alternate leaders for Grey Knights (Malleus), Battle Sisters (Hereticus) or Deathwatch (Xenos), that will allow your army to field Officio Assasinorum Agents or Tempestus Scions, as well as the Inquisitors entourage which includes even more minor imperial subfactions. Maybe Adeptus Arbites (Galactic Police) will get miniatures, but I wouldn't expect it.
Guess I'm just bitter from the treatment DW has gotten up to this point
I've always fancied the idea of adding the death watch into agents as a main ground troop, and I've also liked the idea of them bringing in scions like how the gsc can bring up to a certain point total of guard. Really go for the imp spec ops vibe.
So basically this vid is very validating and basically I TOLD YOU! ... ALL OF YOU aHAHHHAAAAHAHA HAAAAA!
I’m waiting on the Night Lords KT kit to complete my new Night Lords army. I bought the Dread Talons BF and reallocated some of my CSM units; I just need the Night Lords Legionaries to form the foundation of my new army. I’ll probably buy another Jump Pack Chaos Lord too.
I’m considering buying the HH Mechanicum battle group, but only if I can use it in WH40K too. Although if the Dark Mechanicum is a new WH40K faction, I’ll buy that instead.
The Thousand Sons Automata looks awesome. I’d like to get one or two to add more variety to my current TS army - although hordes of Rubric Marines are currently leading the competitive ranks, and I own 40 Rubrics.
I anxiously await the release of the Berserker Surgeon and Juggernaut Cavalry for World Eaters. I just hope WE isn’t the last codex in 10e. Ideally, WE, TS, and Death Guard codices will be released together since they’ll only have a few new model kits, and sooner rather than later.
Valrak about to leak everything
lol Valrak has been saying this stuff since last year
i was hoping tsons would get a psychic dreadnaught, one of the characters from the 10th edition codex, Hidden ones, or Amitara occult. i suppose a robot is fine as long as its giving cabal pts.
needs more Black Templar stuff 👍🏼
combat patrol magazine confirms to me that space marines are a subscription service
Please include a warp spider Phoenix Lord!
@@ChrisOsberg As a massive Warp Spider fan, I'm completely up for this.
Damn it, GW, give me my Blood Angels NOW!
Wait your turn, Other factions need more than 1 detachment and I'm sure you can survive on 8.
@@xxSandt21xx Angry Warp Spider Sounds.
We've had ONE chaos codex! Come on!
I'm reallyyyy hoping that this is because they are combining the daemons and god legions into god individual codices, with some allied rules to allow the multi-daemon armies that people already have to be playable still.
Anything T'au or Votann related I'm excited for
Freaking hell, finally got DW models for them to most likely disappear into Inquisition that's total BS
It's almost like therea been a massive thing going on fir the other side of the warhammer IP. I'd put money on a reveal show in August still probably focused on AOS but with some sort of road map for the last chunk of the year.
When will they realize, that without better lore, Aos will not be able to stand on it's own feet?
Yes, the models look great, but without background, nobody care.
What’s about Neurotyrant and Screamerkiller from Leviathan box will those two get their separate box?
They are out in horrors of the hive I doubt they’ll be available outside of that
The only thig I'm waiting for in 10th is the next wave of votann and the announcement that 11th edition is releasing and its a completely new edition that doesnt priorities tournament play and puts the fun back in the game.
"Let the Tournament players balance the game", they said...
"What's the worst that could happen?!", they all tried to claim... 💀💀💀
Hopium.
@@drunkenastarte5243 they are follow the same direction as warmachine. That worked out well for privateer press
@@drunkenastarte5243 And it works, 40K has never been more balanced then its current state. There is room for more flavor for armies but as far as balancing goes it worked extremely well with only 2-3 factions out of the 45-55% winrate range
Ide hope for more of a year of play once the Grey Knights codex comes out.
I know they want money, but give it an extra year
As a AOS collector too.
They also aren't getting any new news either.
imagine how funny it'd be if they released death watch as their own faction with their own codex just for gw to not touch them at all the rest of the edition.
I just want the sanguinary guard being made primaris, and maybe more variety for grey knights than 3 10 year old models
29:30, i understand not wanting to keep finecast but god nearly impossible as some models never get resold from finecast
I dont think the Kroot should be their own main codex. At most a codex supplement
If fulgrim comes back then leman would be cool. Then after that edition I want the khan plus vashtor in the webway stuff.
Not that i expect any consistency but wasnt it "rumored" a Chaos primarch would go good?
Personally, I say that both Deathwatch and Grey Knights should be folded into Imperial agents, since both are essentially parts of the Inquisition and it allows for fine-tuning of the Inquisitors and their characters, thus giving them some actually impactful abilities. Give them all the INQUISITION keyword, rename the vehicles to 'Inquisitorial ' so that Inquisitors and Henchmen can make use of them, and slap some detachments together, Boom! Codex: Imperial Agents!
Everyone: talks smack about GWs new news reveal format
Also Everyone, but later: questions the lack of news
We are happily playing 9th Ed and Horus Heresy.
Very inquisitorial to just outright remove things with no explanation
Gonna go out on a limb and say the BT codex will be released by the end of the year
If they are adding deathwatch, wouldnt it make sense to add grey nights too?
The strike forces for Grey Knights are getting difficult to get hold of, I'm assuming they've halted production and will produce a much less modular truescale kit at 20% markup within the next month or so.
The imperial agents codex will probably consolidate Grey Knights, Death Watch, Scions and Inquisitorial Agents into a single codex in a fashion similar to 3rd ed without the customizability and cohesion.
Codex : Ordo Xenos on the return
imagine them just dropping exodites, no tease just boom
Do we know the base size for that kew SoB model? Because i would absolutely proxy it as literally anything lol
How do Aeldari not have a freaking codex yet? 10th Ed will be over by the time we get a codex....
Why are we waiting for codexes? Is it written by one guy or what?
Do not rush them o many codexes drop and are dog crap let them take time and get it right. Out of all drops sisters tau had the best releases orks was good but clearly to good as they nerfed it massively overly nerfed first chance they got necrons also overly strong and they took their time to adjust it. Very aggravating.
I am actually with megakilo2124...They should release most if not all codexes at the start of the edition, like any sane company would. Its bonkers to me, that some people have to wait until the end of the edition for their codex only for it to be irrelevant half a year later. They have enough manpower to create and adjust codexes considering that their whole game consist of the main rule set + minis + codex...but i am pretty sure that they wont do this as for the reason why? only the god emperror would know
Well, they fumbled at least 2 of the new codex's (custodies and mechanicus), so maybe they are afraid they will fumble another.
@@haraldbredsdorff2699 i doubt that but then again,... i dont know that for sure. I can only hope for a better future
@haraldbredsdorff2699 dark angels fumble admech fumble custodes fumble I'd argue news one that we're ridiculous ways of broken fumbles. Not to mention alot of the release Detachments being down right bad champions of russ sons deathguard granted they fixed them release loafs of fumbles throughout 10th
a druhkari codex?
Why can't Inquisition be rolled into deathwatch
For once, everybody expects the Space Inquisition
im hoping kreig for guard
Hope all well aspex ... back working crazy hurs ... soz not been as active ahaha 👍 hope all well brother 💪 keep up the amazing work 🔥🤘❤️
Demons probably get dismantled.
Not happening. Belakor is proof of that. He didn't go to CSM and he's not marked so not going to any of the 4 Legion codexes
@@fateweaver9844 Be'lakor can function as a stand alone PDF data slate until GW releases a proper Lost and the Damned army.
If Valrak's rumors are saying, "Daemons codex is going away and all daemonic units will be folded into their respective God-aligned Legion books", then it's very likely at least 95% true!
@@fateweaver9844yeah, probably not happening till 11th edition at the earliest.
@@fateweaver9844 he’s a character for sigmar. They might split up the armies by aligned god and who knows what they could do with Belakor. He could be allowed in or not. Just the rumors
@@Kakashi-ip8mg It won't happen. This rumor has been spread by Valrak for at least 3 editions. Dudes a clown and people need to stop listening.
After all the named DPs aren't in 40k but exist in AoS
Do you think we’ll ever see the tyranid Christmas set again?
I missed my chance 😭😭
Please let Space Marine 2 release with new Tyranid Warrior models (and maybe new Hive Tyrant) 😫
Dear Emperor, The long vigil has faced heavy casualties and we would like greater funding to support our operations. We would like more advanced munitions in order to face the evolving threats on the modern battlefield. With love, Deathwatch
I reallyyyyy hope they don't have these codices carry through into 11th edition. If that happens it means the psychic phase hasn't come back and that would be a big shame.
I really want the alpha legion to get some love in 40k. Give us more than just a detachment rule 😢