I’m crashing out over the engine thing. There is NO reason they give the I the 229 and give the E the 220. Feels like they have it out for American mains tbh. The whole no reason to use the other eagles issue is a total cop out. I have always known that gaijin can be a little bit biased sometimes and they are a Russian company so I try to understand it and just enjoy the game they made, but never in my nearly a decade of experience in war thunder have I seen them come out and say that the reason they’re nerfing an American jet is because: they feel like it and we can’t stop them. Which, I know that’s not literally what they said, but when they come out and say it’s so that “there’s a reason” to play other eagles, that holds no water and is just obviously not their motivation behind it. We have always had aircraft in the game that were just worse than others or irrelevant within the same tech tree, and it’s not like this would make the C variant a bad plane overnight, it is still a great flight model and perhaps would still be better. So them saying this is their reason is just a spit in the face. Be honest gaijin. It is insulting when you do this.
See this is why I say people who play the US have their hands held, they’re not nerfing the F-15E, the I just has better engines. Here’s a downside, the I doesn’t get AGM’s. This will actually kinda be a jet worth playing in the Israeli tech tree after all the neglect it has had in the past.
I'm so glad the F15E isn't in the fighter line - Imagine having to grind out a plane that's not even an upgrade over the previous one in terms of air to air capability
@@larshenrik8900 The AGM-65G doesn't have many differences from the AGM-65D, just mainly the warhead. It can be carried on the triple rack since it is the same size as the D and doesn't reach the maximum weight of the rack.
“It’s not a lot of fuel, 40 minutes” 40 minutes is almost 2x times more fuel than it’ll be able to burn in whole RB match, the best fuel load is the same as for the 15C and the 15A - min fuel or 15mins + 1 fuel tank for RB or min fuel/15 mins + 3 fuel tanks for sim (i mean for adequate sim maps like Afghanistan or Spain, not those sh*tty Sinai/Tunisia/Smolensk and other completely flat maps with total area of 0.00001mm^2 that shouldn’t even exist at 11.0+ BR)
Find it so funny how us mains are having a mental breakdown over the fact that the engines are weaker than the israeli ones. Yet they tell anyone who complains about the flankers gimped flight model to cope 😂
The flanker’s FM isn’t gimped all that badly, it still wins in a dogfight against most planes. But then again, if you’re looking to dogfight at top tier you’re not playing it right
no sure what people are talking about the us 1 is still way better at its job since you can have 6 mav plus the 20 gbus or the 9 lazer guided bombs or a mix of both thats actualy an insane cas loadout. in the pure cas role the US f15e is gonna be the new best in the game for sure
Because none of this stuff will help me in air realistic battles... Just give us the goddamn engine upgrade and the Israeli one it's ground attack capability
For some reason my account got reseted on the Dev Server, and I lost all of my researched vehicles, and have to start over, from the tutorial. 😭 Does anyone know how to solve this? (I know I should write to the support tho...)
Just in case you didn’t know Boeing made a later version of the f15E for Israel which was named the f15I BY BOEING, which irl had better engines and avionics.
F15E has mavs, F15I doesn't, simple balance difference for engine power and historical as USA F15E didn't get the 229 til later refits whereas the F15I was shipped with them, come on people just google.
@@Moondoggymungmung that’s not why gaijin is withholding the 229 engine from the E variant. Also kind of irrelevant considering that the version of the F-15E with the 220 engine is literally a decade older than the F-15I. GIVE 229
@@bluefox9436 yup they do that all the time. No matter what reasoning people retroactively pin to this issue at the end of the day all they’re doing is excusing the distasteful behavior of a $100,000,000/year company.
@@leotsering What do you mean "they made it less maneuverable"? The F-15E is inherently sluggish with its added weight. Its engine is the only engine it had used, up until 2022.
@@adrianfolstad4925 yes because we could receive a very similar version with the same engines but they deliberately gave the Americans the inferior version. There's no point in getting it over the Israeli one
I don’t understand why the f15e has the worse engines and the f15I has the better engines even tho they are quite literally the same jet, that annoys me so much and I hope they fix it
@@TheArcticFoxxo Even if that's true why does the U.S get the worse version? Why not just give them the same engines? The American ones did also use the pw229 so theres really no reason to piss off the u.s community like that
@@bt_the_yank6234 Great question, I'd say to add some variety. I can bet you 100% that people would cry and bitch about the F-15I being copy/paste with less weaponry if an early '00s F-15E was implemented... Even if it were historical. This aircraft never used -229s until VERY recently. A large majority of the thunderbolts didn't receive them until the late 2000s, and even then their F-15Es didn't receive -229s until 2022.
They should add the ability to carry 2 agm 65g + 1 agm 65d on one pilon, since 3 agm 65g are too heavy for the tripple mount, but 2 g' +1 d is possible and there is photo proof of use
Why are people soo stupid, if yoh do a quick google search you can see rhat the f15e never had the 229 engines until recently, the f15i had them from the start
BS the Real life Radar can detect none moving ground targets and is just as good if not better than the Russian Radar but in game the Russian Tree gets every thing for their Paper Vehicles and Bs Proto types
the F-15E is the one with the most payload, it can carry 20x GBU-39 and 6X AGM-65 Mavericks
I’m so excited for the F-15I, I hope it can still be a good Air RB jet, like the F-15C
It will be better, same thing but better engines.
Bvvd said that if F15E gets better engines, It'll be superior to other American fighter jets, and they will be useless.
I’m crashing out over the engine thing. There is NO reason they give the I the 229 and give the E the 220. Feels like they have it out for American mains tbh. The whole no reason to use the other eagles issue is a total cop out.
I have always known that gaijin can be a little bit biased sometimes and they are a Russian company so I try to understand it and just enjoy the game they made, but never in my nearly a decade of experience in war thunder have I seen them come out and say that the reason they’re nerfing an American jet is because: they feel like it and we can’t stop them. Which, I know that’s not literally what they said, but when they come out and say it’s so that “there’s a reason” to play other eagles, that holds no water and is just obviously not their motivation behind it.
We have always had aircraft in the game that were just worse than others or irrelevant within the same tech tree, and it’s not like this would make the C variant a bad plane overnight, it is still a great flight model and perhaps would still be better. So them saying this is their reason is just a spit in the face. Be honest gaijin. It is insulting when you do this.
it does kinda feel that way with how dumb their reasoning is sometimes
@@bt_the_yank6234 yes it doesn’t feel like a reason, it feels more like an excuse
F 15E should have gotten AGM-130
But it's ok for other nations to have the upgrades that they are withholding from us
See this is why I say people who play the US have their hands held, they’re not nerfing the F-15E, the I just has better engines. Here’s a downside, the I doesn’t get AGM’s. This will actually kinda be a jet worth playing in the Israeli tech tree after all the neglect it has had in the past.
I'm so glad the F15E isn't in the fighter line - Imagine having to grind out a plane that's not even an upgrade over the previous one in terms of air to air capability
One video per hour is crazy bro
Why is it limited to only two AGM-65Gs? It should be able to use six.
it only has 2 stations that can carry Mavericks and the Maverick G cannot be carried on triple racks
@@larshenrik8900 The AGM-65G doesn't have many differences from the AGM-65D, just mainly the warhead. It can be carried on the triple rack since it is the same size as the D and doesn't reach the maximum weight of the rack.
Because then it would be kinda on spar with the SU34 carrying 6 KH38ts and we can’t have that comrade xaxaxa
-Vladimir
@@Janno32_Really?
What I knew was that 65G is too heavy for triple launcher
“It’s not a lot of fuel, 40 minutes”
40 minutes is almost 2x times more fuel than it’ll be able to burn in whole RB match, the best fuel load is the same as for the 15C and the 15A - min fuel or 15mins + 1 fuel tank for RB or min fuel/15 mins + 3 fuel tanks for sim (i mean for adequate sim maps like Afghanistan or Spain, not those sh*tty Sinai/Tunisia/Smolensk and other completely flat maps with total area of 0.00001mm^2 that shouldn’t even exist at 11.0+ BR)
So they give the Su34 the grom 1 & 2, but the F-15E doesnt get the AGM-130 or the 229s... makes sense.
F 15E should have gotten the AGM-130
Thanks
Where are the cluster bombs that were in the leaks!!!!
SDBs are so funny, bombs that do 180s are so hilarious.
Finalmente a gaijin boton minha Livery favorita do F15 para Israel hahah eu tinha uma baixada para o Baz Mashupar agora vou usar ess aoficial
Bro calm down I just finished your previous video and you drop another one
He literally said he will make a lot of videos about the f15E and the su34 after that video if he wants to do that he can.
Find it so funny how us mains are having a mental breakdown over the fact that the engines are weaker than the israeli ones. Yet they tell anyone who complains about the flankers gimped flight model to cope 😂
The flanker’s FM isn’t gimped all that badly, it still wins in a dogfight against most planes. But then again, if you’re looking to dogfight at top tier you’re not playing it right
someone know i can i get access to all the vehicles in dev server?
So when pythom 4?
F-15I, best top tier jet???
no sure what people are talking about the us 1 is still way better at its job since you can have 6 mav plus the 20 gbus or the 9 lazer guided bombs or a mix of both thats actualy an insane cas loadout. in the pure cas role the US f15e is gonna be the new best in the game for sure
Because none of this stuff will help me in air realistic battles... Just give us the goddamn engine upgrade and the Israeli one it's ground attack capability
For some reason my account got reseted on the Dev Server, and I lost all of my researched vehicles, and have to start over, from the tutorial. 😭
Does anyone know how to solve this? (I know I should write to the support tho...)
WHY DID THEY NOT GIVE THE AMERICAN ONE UPGRADED ENGINES WTF makes no fucking sense
Because the american military sucks balls at funding?
Theres literally no reason to grind out the american one at this point. such bullshit
U guys have the best air tree stop crying
@@bt_the_yank6234u guys have the best air tree
Just in case you didn’t know Boeing made a later version of the f15E for Israel which was named the f15I BY BOEING, which irl had better engines and avionics.
F15E has mavs, F15I doesn't, simple balance difference for engine power and historical as USA F15E didn't get the 229 til later refits whereas the F15I was shipped with them, come on people just google.
@@Moondoggymungmung that’s not why gaijin is withholding the 229 engine from the E variant. Also kind of irrelevant considering that the version of the F-15E with the 220 engine is literally a decade older than the F-15I. GIVE 229
And they couldn't just copy and paste the plane and loadout to make everyone happy? Less work for Gaijin AND we would've been happy
@@bluefox9436 yup they do that all the time. No matter what reasoning people retroactively pin to this issue at the end of the day all they’re doing is excusing the distasteful behavior of a $100,000,000/year company.
Japan and Germany ain’t getting ish for top tier air it seems 😂
The seemingly nerfed for no reason eagle
What?
@@FXIIBeaver they made it less maneuverable with the worst engine to "make sens since it's the striker and not fighter varient"
@@leotsering US mains have to cry about something I guess.
They didn't?
@@leotsering What do you mean "they made it less maneuverable"? The F-15E is inherently sluggish with its added weight.
Its engine is the only engine it had used, up until 2022.
Dios tiene muchas armas, puede destruir un equipo enemigo 2 veces.
Once again I say leave it to gaijin to give another country the better version of a US jet
and once again, us main cry over everything
Israel normal pereonalizad every jet they buyed, they made special orders and modified the jets by itself, like the F16I-Sufa and F15s i supoused,
@@adrianfolstad4925 yes because we could receive a very similar version with the same engines but they deliberately gave the Americans the inferior version. There's no point in getting it over the Israeli one
@@sucuaranaancap9366 the US’ f15e also had stronger engines there’s no reason to add another version later with stronger engines for the US
@@sucuaranaancap9366 most US F-15Es have the 229.
I don’t understand why the f15e has the worse engines and the f15I has the better engines even tho they are quite literally the same jet, that annoys me so much and I hope they fix it
F-15E - 1988
F-15I - 1998
F-15E: Produced and operated with F-100PW-220Es
F-15I: Retrofitted with -229s per Israel's request before being sold
also, do take into account the f15e can carry 6 mavericks while the israeli one cannot
@@TheArcticFoxxo Even if that's true why does the U.S get the worse version? Why not just give them the same engines? The American ones did also use the pw229 so theres really no reason to piss off the u.s community like that
@@bt_the_yank6234 Great question, I'd say to add some variety. I can bet you 100% that people would cry and bitch about the F-15I being copy/paste with less weaponry if an early '00s F-15E was implemented... Even if it were historical.
This aircraft never used -229s until VERY recently. A large majority of the thunderbolts didn't receive them until the late 2000s, and even then their F-15Es didn't receive -229s until 2022.
@@TheArcticFoxxo They started to use the 229 in 1992. According to Pratt and Whitney's own website.
IM SO HAPPY
They should add the ability to carry 2 agm 65g + 1 agm 65d on one pilon, since 3 agm 65g are too heavy for the tripple mount, but 2 g' +1 d is possible and there is photo proof of use
Why are people soo stupid, if yoh do a quick google search you can see rhat the f15e never had the 229 engines until recently, the f15i had them from the start
And? IF it could theoretically use the same engines then why not make them the same? Why deliberately make one version worse?
@@bt_the_yank6234 because the f15e and f15ex aren't the same model???, a quick google search would tell you this
And yet no lavi 😢
HI
still using aim120 A bummer
How to make shit original aircraft or missile from originated
what?
I mean it was in service when just sparrows were around, so imagine they added the initial version with just the aim 7m
BS the Real life Radar can detect none moving ground targets and is just as good if not better than the Russian Radar but in game the Russian Tree gets every thing for their Paper Vehicles and Bs Proto types