I would have to align in the old skool club of the traditional seat-stay designs. I just bought a crash replacement CAAD12 and that was one of the reasons for not waiting for the CAAD13 release. I reckon the back end handles and feels better for me. For cycling performance, if I ever have to complain about the CAAD12 not being good enough to compete with, then in reality, only my legs are to blame for sucking.
I tried so hard to get a caad12. Now i do. I love. The caad12 looks better the....13 is faster. As long as I can't pump up more than 250 watts I ll keep my caad 12. Thaks.
Visited a top bike shop this week as I havnt bought a new bike since 2007. .... 5 days later I'm still in a state of shock!!! £12000 fot the top bike and many between 4 and 7000 quid. Has the world lost the value of money ??
I'm still riding my 2004 caad 3 I bought second hand for £400. I feel exactly the same as you. There's no need to spend so much on a bike. When you get fast enough they give you the bikes and pay you to ride them!
While I do like the new design, I prefer the original traditional Cannondale design that Caad12 and the old SuperSix Evo had. I just bought last year's SuperSix Evo for less than the price of a Caad12 thanks to clearance sales 😁The old SuperSix Evo is extremely comfy so I don't know how much of an improvement dropped seat stays would make. That Speed Save micro suspension system is just magic!!
Probably the most important piece of information is how much the total bike weighs, if a manufacturer is not willing to tell me then I'm not interested. You briefly mentioned the frame weight but what does the bike weigh so that I can make a comparison.
Disagree. The welds are chunky yes, but did you see the angles the tubes meet at? I guess it's a meter of personal preference. As for the color, I guess they're just trying to change things up...
I just built up a Ritchey Logic with DuraAce 9000. My favorite bike yet and I’ve owned Caad10, Super Six, Super six Hi Mod. Nothing compares to classic steel man...
@@JanKowalski-pe9lo If he didn't specify smell, taste, texture, etc., he's talking about the overall experience, not a single detail. Pull your head out of your ass.
Damn the groupset! Who cares 5K for an aluminum bike is too much. All the carbon is produced in Asia at a fraction of the retail mark-up. This is robbery.
@@crypto_que A big chunk of the price of any bike is in the wheels and groupset! And never compare cannondale to a second tier bike brands like canyon, they're not in the same league. Your comparison is very flawed.
The CADD12 is an absolute dream I love it. Looking to upgrade my CADD12 recently. I much more appreciated the lines and simplicity look to the 12. Especially at the price point for 105. Got it on sale as well. Couple weeks after cadd 13 came out
Interesting! Only things i dislike are the welds (esp. around the integrated seatclamp, why not standard?) and that hideous knot cockpit, looks like it's upside down or something...
I haven't ridden the caad 12 or the 13 so I dont't know if the new one is an improvement or not, however, I really did like the classic look of the older models, I think in a way the bike has lost its essence, especially when almost every major bike that has come out this last two and a half years looks exactly the same. I feel Cannondale have missed a chance to make something different and if there was a bike in their range to experiment with it's this one.
First Cannondale I've ever seen that I would buy given the chance. The System Six can't replace my current ride, but the versatility of this thing at that price almost makes me forget my phobia of aluminum and Cannondale headsets.
@@DaveCM I've had a ton come into the shop with premature headset wear and poor bearing fits. A lot of mechanics will tell you the same thing, but it's a small price to pay for the rest of the experience. They are great bikes for sure, I just get thrown off by stuff like that since I see it a lot.
Im very very happy with my caad 12. The 13 looks like a great performing bike although im not sure the improvements justify an upgrade from the 12. I also agree with the people saying it doesnt look as good. It seems aero and pretty are a hard combo to pull off lol. Im better off getting aero drop bars,wheels, stem and lighter components on my caad 12 to further deck it out. When comes down to it the tube shaping i think would be the main difference if both 12 and 13 had identical components, wheels etc. and im not sure its a huge difference as the 12 has pretty good tube shaping as is(for aluminium). That said the 12 would be my all around climbing bike and if i wanted aero id go allez sprint or venge.
I think Cannondale’s new TeamMachine ALR looks good, shame about the welds, paint and price, going to look for a good CAAD12 to upgrade from my CAAD 10
Classic looks will change as new designs are being introduced. As much as I used to love the traditional seat stays reaching almost up to the seatpost clamp, I’m getting used to what industry has to offer. The dropped stays appear to me as more and more “classical”. And... yes... beautiful.
The colour is awful, thats for sure. About the welds, I think they made it explicitly this way, so you can see from further away that its an alloy frame. Seems for me like a marketing decision aka "show your welds, be proud of your alloy frame"
@@Skooteh Check out cyclingtips.com's review for closeup shots. The welds look much much better on those. I assume Bikeradar got an early production sample, and some hickups occur during manufacturing :)
WTF with the cosmetic comments on welds? Welds are meant to join pieces of metal with structural integrity. I want welds to hold my frame together, but if you want pretty welds... Ok.
The welds look like something out of Walmart. Compared to other "performance aluminum" bikes (like Trek's Emonda ALR) which have seamlessly smooth welds, Cannondale's offering seems clumsy and unrefined.
Dorel are always snifffing around in the far east trying to find a factory that will make their bikes cheaper, looks like smooth welds aren't a thing at the factory they are using. A recent sickbiker video showed hopelessly poor assembly at the factory they are using, he had to correct a lot of issues. Even if I had £4,000 burning a hole in my pocket I certainly wouldn't buy this bike, I could never justify that expenditure for the extreme diminishing returns for someone like me. This is like paying £4 for a tin of baked beans that tastes every so slightly better than a 30p tin of beans. £1,000 will buy me a decent CF road bike with 105 groupset. I could spend the other £3,000 on perhaps a nice dual suspension mountain bike like the Bossnut Evo. I've still got £2,000 left so could buy myself a nice e-bike for £1,500. I've got £500 left perhaps for a budget 2 week holiday. Just seems like so many better ways of spending £4,000. Dorel probably buy that frame for less than $30. I know they buy whole bikes for less than $30 for their bottom end brands. On the Cannondale site they won't even tell you what aluminium they use it just has a stupid marketing name for their aluminium ' SmartForm C1 Premium Alloy'. Is it 6061 or something better, likely just 6061 if they are using marketing spiel to conceal the real material. On the Cannondale uk site is has the CAAD13 DISC FORCE ETAP AXS at £4,800. The depreciation on this type of bike is horrific. Even within the same year end of season bikes can be bought at retail often with 40% off quite easily sometimes and s/hand values will plummet far below that in just a year or so. I totally understand if someone is super rich and wants to waste their money but often people buy such bikes on credit which I don't understand at all.
I built a bike on this frame, partly thanks to this video and a couple of articles. Putting DT Swiss 1400 wheels on it and a SRAM Force Etap group it just flies, it's comfy, performs amazingly at a reasonable price point. There's plenty of room for gravel tires. I'm running 32s so I won't bother with another wheel set.
Maybe just me but I hate dropped seat stays on a lot of bikes so I'm with you on that one. I only ever liked how it looks on Merida's Reacto and BMC's Team Machine.
Love my purple caad12. Not a fan of this bike. Maybe it's just the fugly paint job, maybe it's the more apparent welds. I don't know, but I'm in no hurry to trade up.
coldforgedcowboy I saw an old ‘Made in the USA’ Optimo the other day. Welding on the frame was flawless and these were the cheap alternatives to CAADs!
Upon reading all the comments below i would rather stay on my caad 12. I've been riding on it for four years so far it impresses me year after year since i bought it in 2017.
I’m a luddite......bring back CAAD 12 with rim brakes...... it’s definitely lighter, and despite what the bike companies are saying today light bikes make a difference in the hills.
Very unbalanced "review", from what you say this bike only has good things and not a single flaw... So much for objective unbiased opinions and professional analysis.
I love Cannondale. I still ride my dream, a Caad10, as my main bike which I've spent a pretty penny upgrading cause it rides so well. Hell, I'm rebuilding my 1992 R600 because I like it so much. But, with that said, Cannondale needs to offer more builds for the Caad13, and across their line for that matter. The reviewer was riding the $5750 version. The only other option with disc brakes, listed on their site in the USA , is the 105 version which would cost a fortune to upgrade. This is unacceptable from a consumer's point of view. Offer framesets alone or offer more builds, or both!!! Just offer more, more paint schemes, easier access to priority parts, especially since you can't get a carbon seatpost for the SuperSix or Caad13 for less than $5,000. Cannondale, I live on the East Coast of the USA and I'm here to tell you, "You can do better."
I think it looks good...At first I wasn't sure, but during the video you had some CAAD12 images and that started too look a bit old fashioned in comparison. However I am not sure that at 5k it is exactly a budget option anymore, I think this bike makes sense as an entry level bike with 105 that can grow with a rider as they gain more experience or perhaps a good workhorse bike for a more seasoned cyclist. I'd love one that's for sure!
They are not bad, they are just not filled and grinded down. That allows to have smaller welds with less weight :) same on caad12. If you want nice welds, get a trek alr.
Don't understand pricing for an Aluminum frame. Canyon has their Ultimate Carbon fiber w Disc and Ultegra Di2 for $3700. I have 4 Cannondales, but this is not a good buy. I was willing to pay more when they were made in the USA, but they aren't anymore.
I know that is a top end model and the lower end is more in the 1400 range.. I love my carbon bike but really want an aluminum bike for training miles and club rides. One that may get road patch flung up on it.. Really thinking the Emonda may be the right bang for the buck.
I paid much the same for my now very old 'team blue' coloured CAAD4 alloy with Dura-ace back in 2000. Wheels replaced by Mavic's all alloy Ksyzium SL and forks, with US made EC90 carbon bladed aero. Don't miss electronic shifting, but would dearly love to have Shimano's latest disc brake system on any bike. The mat or flat paint on the bike tested is very much unstated which I like, but would prefer the piano black dura-ace groupset onboard, not the cheap and plastic appearance of Sram components. Enjoyed your hands-on review of one of my favourite brands.
That's because Cannondale is getting lazy and only offers one color per build/teir of a bike, with a very, and I mean very, few exceptions. It really becomes apparent when they offer only 4 builds for a bike is supposed to be both "rim and disc brakes."
I happen to prefer the beauty of a traditional frame design more than I’d appreciate a few watts saved, even as I race. I find that if I don’t think a bike is visually appealing, I ride it less, and I enjoy it less. The new superbikes do all look very similar, and it’s taken some of the magic away from racing. I think it will send more buyers to custom builders to get something less cookie-cutter, something made locally, and something with better weld quality. Fast is important, but beauty is what pushes high-end bikes forward for me.
Still not completely compelled to get upgrade from my classic CAAD9 with sram rival 1x. It’s still the best looking CAAD from the last 15 years. The smooth welds classic hourglass seat stays. Also I assume no track version which is a shame.
Note sure what to think. I don't like the colors, and I don't like the lineup (no Dura-Ace disc ?), so let's get this out of the way first. What I'd like to know is "how much better is the CAAD13 over the CAAD12" if you take the same wheels and the same groupset. Is there any noticable difference ? N.b one thing the review got wrong, the geometry is different to the CAAD12. The CAAD13 shares the geometry with the SuperSix EVO3, which in reality is more the Synapse geometry than CAAD12/EVO2, so less agressive, less responsive.
@@ronitdebnath Yeah, somewhere inbetween, but closer to Synapse if I look at the wheelbase. One thing that really attracted me to CAAD12/EV2 originally was the short wheelbase, and the very responsive behaviour. One thing that always turned me off with Synapse was the sluggish (comparatively) handling. I like to climb, I want to throw the bike around the switchbacks ...
For me beauty wins every time. And I’ve got nothing but love for the new design withe the drop seat stays. I’d say this puts Cannondale back out front with the big boys where they belong. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna go see if I’ve got enough in the old piggy bank, ‘cause there’s a CAAD13 in my near future.
Love the new bike. The 12 was great so this is a great surprise to see high end alloy frame for the masses. But bubba gotta get out of the speed suit seems to have enjoyed a few too many bangers and mash. Big belly!
I had held out for the new CAAD 13 as my next road bike, fully believing in aluminium. Saw the leaked pics which turned out to be accurate. Hated it and it looks worse in broad daylight today's video. Looked at other aluminium offerings from all the best brands and the only one close was a dull Canyon. So I went for beauty and got an ultegra Bianchi Sprint instead. (Rim obviously)
Aside from the groupo and add-on's (bar/stem, wheels...) this looks like the Specialized Allez Sprint, and you can buy frame on its own with some amazing designs and colors.
I'm fifteen years old, and I would like to get into competitive road bike racing. I have a dilemma though, in that I need a new bike. My current bike is a Raleigh Revinio 1.0, a very cheap, basic bike, that I have used to just casually ride over the years. Does anybody have suggestions for a new bike? And also, I cannot decide between an endurance bike and a lightweight bike.
Eitan Frankowitz An endurance bike is designed for long distance riding. Most race bikes (trek emonda etc) are going to be fairly lightweight. It really depends on your budget.
Bad name - 14 as I’m too superstitious 😂 and BB30A. Otherwise fantastic. The CAAD10 and 12 were fantastic on the rear comfort but slightly harsh on the front. Now with bigger tyres and mounts for fenders; the ultimate winter bike. People don’t like change. I might have to sell my 10 if they come up with a decent colour!
Think I'll go for caad13 ultegra rim love the yellow paint job on that one as well. Considered that or supersix ultegra but £300 difference what do you reckon between the two?
I've ran faster times on my old $1200 Roubaix than my buddy on his 16 lb $5k willier. Money doesn't buy hard work and endurance you have to work for it leave marginal gains to the Pros lol
Back in the mid 1970's I bought a pro race bike. It was a Ferdi Kessels Main D'or Tour de France road bike all Campy n Cinelli that weighed 20.5 lbs with 390gram training tires, USA's 5 time cyclo-cross Champion Laurance Malone looked over my new bike and said, "Yep, yep, you've got the bike , now all you need is the motor."
Absolutely gorgeous. Except the welding. Is that a pre-production copy? I hope they smooth that toothpaste out a bit. Seriously tempted by this top end model vs a lower spec carbon version.
What I want to know is why is the 105 rim version bike for sale in the UK at £ 1600 everywhere, when it's said to be £ 1330. Is that VAT bumping the price up, or will it come down soon?
The light paint colour schemes really highlight the second rate welding job, especially in the seat stay. I am not a materials scientist but I wonder why Cannondale does not utilize hydroforming in their Alu frame manufacturing (like Trek does on their Emonda). So much smoother, more appealing and high-end quality finish. That would certainly justify the price tag attached to the new CAAD13. The difference is made in the frame (IMHO), any manufacturer can add the latest SRAM or Shimano accessories and some branded wheels.
I’m looking into buying the Caad 13 for crit racing. Any idea on how it would do in the racing scene? like the racier look of the caad 12. Not into the look of the CAAD 13 paint scheme.
I've owned 7 Cannondale bikes up to date and no other. I'm a diehard Cannondale fan, but something looks extremely goofy with the head tube and fork combo. The Evo & system six is spot on. My CAAD 12 Black Inc. Edition looks geometrically better.
The D-shaped seatpost that Cannondale "adopted" (stole?) goes a long way in providing carbon-level comfort when riding an alloy frame. Giant is recognizing that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
Thanks for the video and all the info about that bike! But if I could suggest something, could you please talk a bit slower and maybe more clearly? For me (and others) as not native english speakers its quite hard to follow. The subtitles help a lot though. Thanks and keep on with your great reviews!
Before giant TCR all the bikes use to look exactly same n it was okey After BMC team machine We are getting back to old days where every bike looks the same
reading the opinions here tells me people care more for the look than the performance. I prefer performances, and according to the this video this bike is a great bike….but i'M a canyon guy so….cheers from Montréal !
WOW I was waiting for it, But it never came. You kept talking about different elements of the CAAD 13. But you missed the biggest one 13 is the Chemical element of Aluminum on the Periodic table....
There are also rum brake options. Can't fit the 30 mm tires, its max 28 mm. My advise is discs, so comfortable in braking and with the wider tyres you can give it a go on a gravel course if you wish
So let me get this right. They ran hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of simulations developing the CAAD12 frame and the computer eventually came up with the best design for the material. The finest balance between weight, compliance and durability. Now we are told that was all bullshit and a different frame design needed to be implemented. WTF.
The BB30 BB is a deal breaker for me, and all the issues associated with it. Was a happy CAAD5 (with Octalink BB) rider for many years, but in looking around for a new bike, am looking elsewhere (probably Tarmac with Shimano threaded BB) as I don't want to spend big $ and have to deal with a BB30 creak.
What do you think to the new CAAD 13? Let us know in the comments!
I would have to align in the old skool club of the traditional seat-stay designs. I just bought a crash replacement CAAD12 and that was one of the reasons for not waiting for the CAAD13 release. I reckon the back end handles and feels better for me. For cycling performance, if I ever have to complain about the CAAD12 not being good enough to compete with, then in reality, only my legs are to blame for sucking.
I tried so hard to get a caad12. Now i do. I love. The caad12 looks better the....13 is faster. As long as I can't pump up more than 250 watts I ll keep my caad 12. Thaks.
The weldings looks like the same "quality" as Canyon Grail.
@@rlemacs The Allez Sprint hasn't got pretty welds either. Heard that these welds are stronger although not prettier.
@Click Bait not sure but I think frame weighs 1150 not 100% sure.
Visited a top bike shop this week as I havnt bought a new bike since 2007. .... 5 days later I'm still in a state of shock!!! £12000 fot the top bike and many between 4 and 7000 quid.
Has the world lost the value of money ??
I'm still riding my 2004 caad 3 I bought second hand for £400. I feel exactly the same as you. There's no need to spend so much on a bike. When you get fast enough they give you the bikes and pay you to ride them!
While I do like the new design, I prefer the original traditional Cannondale design that Caad12 and the old SuperSix Evo had. I just bought last year's SuperSix Evo for less than the price of a Caad12 thanks to clearance sales 😁The old SuperSix Evo is extremely comfy so I don't know how much of an improvement dropped seat stays would make. That Speed Save micro suspension system is just magic!!
I love those welds. Makes the design feel "honest" that I can see the construction.
So far you guys have done the best review of this bike, well done.
Thanks! Great to hear you enjoyed it.
I'd love to see an aluminum face-off of the CAAD13 and the Specialized Allez Sprint.
That's a very good shout!
I ride an Allez Sprint. Fantastic bike.
@@JLotter same. absolutely amazing bike
I have ridden both. The caads are much smoother.
@Click Bait do they even sell or design that bike anymore?
Bravo for including *the price* in the video!! So rare in bike reviews!
bikeradar usually does that
Probably the most important piece of information is how much the total bike weighs, if a manufacturer is not willing to tell me then I'm not interested. You briefly mentioned the frame weight but what does the bike weigh so that I can make a comparison.
Please bike companies. Can we just abandon press fit bottom brackets and all just conclude “at least we tried?”
Giant seem to manage it without too much drama
T47 is the future!
Death to the press fit bottom bracket design!
@@ohshitnotanotherknob I think I'm the only Giant owner with a noisy Pressfit lol.
I said it once and it got deleted. Learn how to service your bike mate. "Cheers"
I have the CAAD13 a few months now with 2x11 shimano 105 and it rides just great
Me too !
Cannondale is maybe the best Alu-Race Bike builder on the planet - very convincingly (thumbs up!)
Sorry but the colour scheme and welds are hideous. Think I'll save my cash.
Disagree. The welds are chunky yes, but did you see the angles the tubes meet at? I guess it's a meter of personal preference. As for the color, I guess they're just trying to change things up...
I just built up a Ritchey Logic with DuraAce 9000. My favorite bike yet and I’ve owned Caad10, Super Six, Super six Hi Mod. Nothing compares to classic steel man...
What do you mean? Nothing compares to steel taste? Smell? Sound?
@@JanKowalski-pe9lo If he didn't specify smell, taste, texture, etc., he's talking about the overall experience, not a single detail. Pull your head out of your ass.
@@victortitulo3433 I will but only if you take out your first.
Oooohhhh! come on that price on aluminum !!! Canyon aeroroad 2500
Damn the groupset! Who cares 5K for an aluminum bike is too much. All the carbon is produced in Asia at a fraction of the retail mark-up. This is robbery.
@@crypto_que A big chunk of the price of any bike is in the wheels and groupset! And never compare cannondale to a second tier bike brands like canyon, they're not in the same league. Your comparison is very flawed.
@@simzer LOL. Second tier manufacturer Canyon 😂😂 Sure. Only thing Cannondale is first tier is selling overpriced creaking shites.
@@simzer lol look at Canyons results in pro cycling vs Cannondale...
@@alesvyhnak8872 sure.. That's why they sell 3 times more bikes than canyon does. You obviously don't know what I'm talking about. Cheers mate.. 👋🏼
The CADD12 is an absolute dream I love it. Looking to upgrade my CADD12 recently. I much more appreciated the lines and simplicity look to the 12. Especially at the price point for 105. Got it on sale as well. Couple weeks after cadd 13 came out
Interesting! Only things i dislike are the welds (esp. around the integrated seatclamp, why not standard?) and that hideous knot cockpit, looks like it's upside down or something...
I've got the cheapest version of the CAAD13, and its amazing. Need to upgrade the wheels soon though...
At $2100 US for the CAAD 13 in 105 Disc trim this bike is the deal of the Century. Just ordered one.
I haven't ridden the caad 12 or the 13 so I dont't know if the new one is an improvement or not, however, I really did like the classic look of the older models, I think in a way the bike has lost its essence, especially when almost every major bike that has come out this last two and a half years looks exactly the same. I feel Cannondale have missed a chance to make something different and if there was a bike in their range to experiment with it's this one.
First Cannondale I've ever seen that I would buy given the chance. The System Six can't replace my current ride, but the versatility of this thing at that price almost makes me forget my phobia of aluminum and Cannondale headsets.
Headsets? I own 2 Cannondales and never had an issue. What are the issues?
@@DaveCM I've had a ton come into the shop with premature headset wear and poor bearing fits. A lot of mechanics will tell you the same thing, but it's a small price to pay for the rest of the experience. They are great bikes for sure, I just get thrown off by stuff like that since I see it a lot.
Sorry the BB30A (special cranks) and weird off center rear wheel are deal killers for me.
Im very very happy with my caad 12. The 13 looks like a great performing bike although im not sure the improvements justify an upgrade from the 12. I also agree with the people saying it doesnt look as good. It seems aero and pretty are a hard combo to pull off lol. Im better off getting aero drop bars,wheels, stem and lighter components on my caad 12 to further deck it out. When comes down to it the tube shaping i think would be the main difference if both 12 and 13 had identical components, wheels etc. and im not sure its a huge difference as the 12 has pretty good tube shaping as is(for aluminium). That said the 12 would be my all around climbing bike and if i wanted aero id go allez sprint or venge.
I watched the video to see how the axle stays in the bike when the wheel drops out. I am disappointed.
I think Cannondale’s new TeamMachine ALR looks good, shame about the welds, paint and price, going to look for a good CAAD12 to upgrade from my CAAD 10
Classic looks will change as new designs are being introduced.
As much as I used to love the traditional seat stays reaching almost up to the seatpost clamp, I’m getting used to what industry has to offer.
The dropped stays appear to me as more and more “classical”.
And... yes... beautiful.
This is an advert not a review. Is this Bikeradar or QVC?
Not liking the weld joins, perhaps they could look at Rose Aluminium Bikes and take note of the smoother joins. Colour scheme doesn't grab me either
The colour is awful, thats for sure. About the welds, I think they made it explicitly this way, so you can see from further away that its an alloy frame. Seems for me like a marketing decision aka "show your welds, be proud of your alloy frame"
the top tube to seat tube junction is pretty bad though. It will probably get better in production but it's pretty bad looking as is.
@@Skooteh Check out cyclingtips.com's review for closeup shots. The welds look much much better on those. I assume Bikeradar got an early production sample, and some hickups occur during manufacturing :)
WTF with the cosmetic comments on welds? Welds are meant to join pieces of metal with structural integrity. I want welds to hold my frame together, but if you want pretty welds... Ok.
@@Krisszhu1990 yeah I kinda assumed that. other brands like canyon also suffer from stuff like that so I figured it would get ironed out.
The welds look like something out of Walmart. Compared to other "performance aluminum" bikes (like Trek's Emonda ALR) which have seamlessly smooth welds, Cannondale's offering seems clumsy and unrefined.
@Click Bait LOL ...exactly. No thanks, Cannondale!
Dorel are always snifffing around in the far east trying to find a factory that will make their bikes cheaper, looks like smooth welds aren't a thing at the factory they are using. A recent sickbiker video showed hopelessly poor assembly at the factory they are using, he had to correct a lot of issues. Even if I had £4,000 burning a hole in my pocket I certainly wouldn't buy this bike, I could never justify that expenditure for the extreme diminishing returns for someone like me. This is like paying £4 for a tin of baked beans that tastes every so slightly better than a 30p tin of beans. £1,000 will buy me a decent CF road bike with 105 groupset. I could spend the other £3,000 on perhaps a nice dual suspension mountain bike like the Bossnut Evo. I've still got £2,000 left so could buy myself a nice e-bike for £1,500. I've got £500 left perhaps for a budget 2 week holiday. Just seems like so many better ways of spending £4,000. Dorel probably buy that frame for less than $30. I know they buy whole bikes for less than $30 for their bottom end brands. On the Cannondale site they won't even tell you what aluminium they use it just has a stupid marketing name for their aluminium ' SmartForm C1 Premium Alloy'. Is it 6061 or something better, likely just 6061 if they are using marketing spiel to conceal the real material. On the Cannondale uk site is has the CAAD13 DISC FORCE ETAP AXS at £4,800. The depreciation on this type of bike is horrific. Even within the same year end of season bikes can be bought at retail often with 40% off quite easily sometimes and s/hand values will plummet far below that in just a year or so. I totally understand if someone is super rich and wants to waste their money but often people buy such bikes on credit which I don't understand at all.
I built a bike on this frame, partly thanks to this video and a couple of articles. Putting DT Swiss 1400 wheels on it and a SRAM Force Etap group it just flies, it's comfy, performs amazingly at a reasonable price point. There's plenty of room for gravel tires. I'm running 32s so I won't bother with another wheel set.
where is the review break in this advert ?
I’d rather stay with The CAAD12.
Maybe just me but I hate dropped seat stays on a lot of bikes so I'm with you on that one. I only ever liked how it looks on Merida's Reacto and BMC's Team Machine.
Dan Lazaro I always liked the classic geometry better. Sadly Cannondale forgot how great it was.
@@Cortes19882012 cuz muh aero gainz
I’m still on my caad 10 😂
Christopher Smith Keep on riding it. No need to upgrade to the 13.
Love my purple caad12. Not a fan of this bike. Maybe it's just the fugly paint job, maybe it's the more apparent welds. I don't know, but I'm in no hurry to trade up.
Fugly beyond paint job sadly
Not sure why they put mudguard mounts on, considering this is a successor to a bike aimed at privateer racers...
Fieryawesomeness , why not? It’s a criterium bike so why even add a second bottle mount? I even wish it had mounts on the top tube for a top tube bag.
Extra mounts just sounds like extra weight.....
I don’t care for it either
I don't mind the drop stays. My 06 Tete de Course basically has the same set up. just a super small rear triangle. They're going back to it.
Cobby welds on a Canondale are just wrong!
coldforgedcowboy I saw an old ‘Made in the USA’ Optimo the other day.
Welding on the frame was flawless and these were the cheap alternatives to CAADs!
Upon reading all the comments below i would rather stay on my caad 12. I've been riding on it for four years so far it impresses me year after year since i bought it in 2017.
Love it but I’m sticking with the caad12 over the 13, and I love my 2016 caad8 105. Just a magical recipe.
I’m a luddite......bring back CAAD 12 with rim brakes...... it’s definitely lighter, and despite what the bike companies are saying today light bikes make a difference in the hills.
Very unbalanced "review", from what you say this bike only has good things and not a single flaw... So much for objective unbiased opinions and professional analysis.
New bikes are pretty much sorted though now aren't they, on the whole?
@@ap6584 every bikes has flaws, and here none are presented... If they can't find them they are bad journalists/reviewers
I love Cannondale. I still ride my dream, a Caad10, as my main bike which I've spent a pretty penny upgrading cause it rides so well. Hell, I'm rebuilding my 1992 R600 because I like it so much. But, with that said, Cannondale needs to offer more builds for the Caad13, and across their line for that matter. The reviewer was riding the $5750 version. The only other option with disc brakes, listed on their site in the USA , is the 105 version which would cost a fortune to upgrade. This is unacceptable from a consumer's point of view. Offer framesets alone or offer more builds, or both!!! Just offer more, more paint schemes, easier access to priority parts, especially since you can't get a carbon seatpost for the SuperSix or Caad13 for less than $5,000. Cannondale, I live on the East Coast of the USA and I'm here to tell you, "You can do better."
CAAD 12 for me good bike and no discs affordable too.
Crazy beauty aloy frame.
I think it looks good...At first I wasn't sure, but during the video you had some CAAD12 images and that started too look a bit old fashioned in comparison. However I am not sure that at 5k it is exactly a budget option anymore, I think this bike makes sense as an entry level bike with 105 that can grow with a rider as they gain more experience or perhaps a good workhorse bike for a more seasoned cyclist. I'd love one that's for sure!
I like my Caad9 and still ride it. Smooth welds, and handmade.
Why are the welds so bad on a $5000 bike?
They are not bad, they are just not filled and grinded down. That allows to have smaller welds with less weight :) same on caad12. If you want nice welds, get a trek alr.
@@dakalla They could be smoothed out better.
Finally! The Aluminium Twin of the S6E
Don't understand pricing for an Aluminum frame. Canyon has their Ultimate Carbon fiber w Disc and Ultegra Di2 for $3700. I have 4 Cannondales, but this is not a good buy. I was willing to pay more when they were made in the USA, but they aren't anymore.
Got a black frame set for $950, gonna equip with 105 from previous bike and lets see how good it is.
How is it?
I know that is a top end model and the lower end is more in the 1400 range.. I love my carbon bike but really want an aluminum bike for training miles and club rides. One that may get road patch flung up on it.. Really thinking the Emonda may be the right bang for the buck.
I paid much the same for my now very old 'team blue' coloured CAAD4 alloy with Dura-ace back in 2000.
Wheels replaced by Mavic's all alloy Ksyzium SL and forks, with US made EC90 carbon bladed aero.
Don't miss electronic shifting, but would dearly love to have Shimano's latest disc brake system on any bike.
The mat or flat paint on the bike tested is very much unstated which I like, but would prefer the piano black dura-ace groupset onboard, not the cheap and plastic appearance of Sram components.
Enjoyed your hands-on review of one of my favourite brands.
Why have you all got the same horrible coloured model? I would like to see the other options
That's because Cannondale is getting lazy and only offers one color per build/teir of a bike, with a very, and I mean very, few exceptions. It really becomes apparent when they offer only 4 builds for a bike is supposed to be both "rim and disc brakes."
I happen to prefer the beauty of a traditional frame design more than I’d appreciate a few watts saved, even as I race. I find that if I don’t think a bike is visually appealing, I ride it less, and I enjoy it less. The new superbikes do all look very similar, and it’s taken some of the magic away from racing. I think it will send more buyers to custom builders to get something less cookie-cutter, something made locally, and something with better weld quality. Fast is important, but beauty is what pushes high-end bikes forward for me.
Screw the classic lines. Go for the performance and comfort. I bought a BMC Gran Fondo 6 years ago which has the drop chain stays and never look back.
Still not completely compelled to get upgrade from my classic CAAD9 with sram rival 1x. It’s still the best looking CAAD from the last 15 years. The smooth welds classic hourglass seat stays. Also I assume no track version which is a shame.
Note sure what to think. I don't like the colors, and I don't like the lineup (no Dura-Ace disc ?), so let's get this out of the way first. What I'd like to know is "how much better is the CAAD13 over the CAAD12" if you take the same wheels and the same groupset. Is there any noticable difference ? N.b one thing the review got wrong, the geometry is different to the CAAD12. The CAAD13 shares the geometry with the SuperSix EVO3, which in reality is more the Synapse geometry than CAAD12/EVO2, so less agressive, less responsive.
Neither synapse nor previous caad12....its somewhere in between
@@ronitdebnath Yeah, somewhere inbetween, but closer to Synapse if I look at the wheelbase. One thing that really attracted me to CAAD12/EV2 originally was the short wheelbase, and the very responsive behaviour. One thing that always turned me off with Synapse was the sluggish (comparatively) handling. I like to climb, I want to throw the bike around the switchbacks ...
@@thomasroell2049 out of the saddle the caad12 wasn't just the best alu bike...it was one of the best bikes out of the saddle. Period.
Both. And I think they nailed it
The new decal design looks modern but I prefer the Caad 12's _Cannondale_ lettering
Still loving the looks and ride of my old matte black, Cadd 10 Ultegra. It’s certainly enough bike for me....but I mostly ride mtn.
For me beauty wins every time. And I’ve got nothing but love for the new design withe the drop seat stays. I’d say this puts Cannondale back out front with the big boys where they belong. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna go see if I’ve got enough in the old piggy bank, ‘cause there’s a CAAD13 in my near future.
The old "weve added 50% more compliance" line is there any compliance left??
Cannondale went from the best looking modern bike silhouette to the worst with one slight move of the seat stays
I just paid $1800 for a new 2020 Caad13 105 with rim breaks. I'm THRILLED!
Nice 💯😊
i love this bike..caad13
Great video. Bike looks awesome. I prefer tech over beauty. But why compromise? How about both?
loving the resurgence of cannondale lately
Love the new bike. The 12 was great so this is a great surprise to see high end alloy frame for the masses. But bubba gotta get out of the speed suit seems to have enjoyed a few too many bangers and mash. Big belly!
I had held out for the new CAAD 13 as my next road bike, fully believing in aluminium. Saw the leaked pics which turned out to be accurate. Hated it and it looks worse in broad daylight today's video. Looked at other aluminium offerings from all the best brands and the only one close was a dull Canyon. So I went for beauty and got an ultegra Bianchi Sprint instead. (Rim obviously)
The welding looks bad D:
Aside from the groupo and add-on's (bar/stem, wheels...) this looks like the Specialized Allez Sprint, and you can buy frame on its own with some amazing designs and colors.
beauty. Thats why i ride an Aithein with Campag Record 12 speed. That cost me less than 1/2 again for that bike. £5k is not affordable...
Of course it’s worth it. 2 Watts at 45 km/h!😅
Very nice bike 👍👍👍
Caad12 for me please. At least it'll probably be on sale now that the Caad13 is out.
I'm fifteen years old, and I would like to get into competitive road bike racing. I have a dilemma though, in that I need a new bike. My current bike is a Raleigh Revinio 1.0, a very cheap, basic bike, that I have used to just casually ride over the years. Does anybody have suggestions for a new bike? And also, I cannot decide between an endurance bike and a lightweight bike.
Eitan Frankowitz An endurance bike is designed for long distance riding. Most race bikes (trek emonda etc) are going to be fairly lightweight. It really depends on your budget.
Buy used
What do you think about the Caad 13 BB30 bottom bracket? Have you experienced noise?
Cool review, well done! Found the price a bit steep for an AL. But I like your jersey! What brand is it?
The Jersey is a PedalEd I think
@@nicolasmartin2314 you were right! Thanks!
Here in Aus this model with Force ETAP cost exactly the same as the Supersix EVO ($7,500) - not sure why anyone would get an aluminium bike then
aluminum stronger
Bad name - 14 as I’m too superstitious 😂 and BB30A. Otherwise fantastic. The CAAD10 and 12 were fantastic on the rear comfort but slightly harsh on the front. Now with bigger tyres and mounts for fenders; the ultimate winter bike.
People don’t like change. I might have to sell my 10 if they come up with a decent colour!
Think I'll go for caad13 ultegra rim love the yellow paint job on that one as well. Considered that or supersix ultegra but £300 difference what do you reckon between the two?
I've ran faster times on my old $1200 Roubaix than my buddy on his 16 lb $5k willier. Money doesn't buy hard work and endurance you have to work for it leave marginal gains to the Pros lol
Back in the mid 1970's I bought a pro race bike. It was a Ferdi Kessels Main D'or Tour de France road bike all Campy n Cinelli that weighed 20.5 lbs with 390gram training tires, USA's 5 time cyclo-cross Champion Laurance Malone looked over my new bike and said, "Yep, yep, you've got the bike , now all you need is the motor."
Absolutely gorgeous. Except the welding. Is that a pre-production copy? I hope they smooth that toothpaste out a bit. Seriously tempted by this top end model vs a lower spec carbon version.
What I want to know is why is the 105 rim version bike for sale in the UK at £ 1600 everywhere, when it's said to be £ 1330. Is that VAT bumping the price up, or will it come down soon?
The light paint colour schemes really highlight the second rate welding job, especially in the seat stay. I am not a materials scientist but I wonder why Cannondale does not utilize hydroforming in their Alu frame manufacturing (like Trek does on their Emonda). So much smoother, more appealing and high-end quality finish. That would certainly justify the price tag attached to the new CAAD13. The difference is made in the frame (IMHO), any manufacturer can add the latest SRAM or Shimano accessories and some branded wheels.
Cannondale have always been the king of aluminum frames and quality. At least this was the case with caad10. Perhaps not anymore?
I’m looking into buying the Caad 13 for crit racing. Any idea on how it would do in the racing scene? like the racier look of the caad 12. Not into the look of the CAAD 13 paint scheme.
Yeah I'd say you could expect to win 3 races and get top 5 in perhaps 7.
How does this bike perform for endurance and light touring? and what is the tire clearance?
I've owned 7 Cannondale bikes up to date and no other. I'm a diehard Cannondale fan, but something looks extremely goofy with the head tube and fork combo. The Evo & system six is spot on. My CAAD 12 Black Inc. Edition looks geometrically better.
The D-shaped seatpost that Cannondale "adopted" (stole?) goes a long way in providing carbon-level comfort when riding an alloy frame. Giant is recognizing that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
Does it use the wretched BB30?
Thanks for the video and all the info about that bike! But if I could suggest something, could you please talk a bit slower and maybe more clearly? For me (and others) as not native english speakers its quite hard to follow. The subtitles help a lot though. Thanks and keep on with your great reviews!
Cool bike. Good to see aluminium still relevant. Not cheap though
Before giant TCR all the bikes use to look exactly same n it was okey
After BMC team machine
We are getting back to old days where every bike looks the same
And cost 300% more than past days comparable.
reading the opinions here tells me people care more for the look than the performance. I prefer performances, and according to the this video this bike is a great bike….but i'M a canyon guy so….cheers from Montréal !
Love the design
Compact rear triangle is doing the rounds these days.
WOW I was waiting for it, But it never came. You kept talking about different elements of the CAAD 13. But you missed the biggest one 13 is the Chemical element of Aluminum on the Periodic table....
It’s a Cannondale and a CAAD, what’s not to like? Other than limited colour schemes and is it disc only?
There are also rum brake options. Can't fit the 30 mm tires, its max 28 mm. My advise is discs, so comfortable in braking and with the wider tyres you can give it a go on a gravel course if you wish
There is something super cool about riding CAAD. You can flex on carbon roadies just on cool factor.
So let me get this right. They ran hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of simulations developing the CAAD12 frame and the computer eventually came up with the best design for the material. The finest balance between weight, compliance and durability. Now we are told that was all bullshit and a different frame design needed to be implemented. WTF.
The BB30 BB is a deal breaker for me, and all the issues associated with it. Was a happy CAAD5 (with Octalink BB) rider for many years, but in looking around for a new bike, am looking elsewhere (probably Tarmac with Shimano threaded BB) as I don't want to spend big $ and have to deal with a BB30 creak.
This doesnt Creek never
Hello Bike radar how does the 105 calipers model compare to the giant tcr advanced 2 ?