Damm bro imagine if peyton became the OC for herbert. He would take him to the next level. Joe Lombardi is just...meh....not great, not bad. Just average.
I think it's great to hear from guys who know-as they teach their craft to us. Good commentators who do this well in game are Brock Huard and Tony Romo.
Herberts pre-snap reads are what makes him better than most young QB’s. The quick snap play, he knows the safety is going to blitz. He knows that’s going to leave the middle of the field open. Hits the slant. The X factor is, Herbert makes 3-4 throws every game that no other QB in the NFL can make. Unreal.
@@GoldenSportsEnt R. Wilson & M. Stafford were NOT making those throws last year ! More like Mohomes & maybe Rodgers were . But , to , me it's Mahomes & Herbert that show these throws week in & week out , now & that is a short list of NFL QB"S , now .
He's NOT doing it in 2024 ! Team is going to HAVE a lot of turn over by then ? 7 players making $ 20 + million on this team & NO way they can pay them all . FA"S are Eck, Everett , M. Davis , K 9 [ Murray ] ? Can Bosa & J C JACKSON make come backs ? If NOT, 1 of these could be cut ? To me BOTH could go , before OTHERS are cut ! Bosa has NOT lived up to his record breaking contract that he signed a couple of years ago , hell, he isn't even the BEST Bosa in the NFL .
The Chargers really lucked out. I mean usually with a rookie you can't tell if they're a Franchise QB in the first season. Like any of the ones from this year, even Mac Jones, I still don't think you know. With Herbert you knew he was a franchise QB from the 2nd or 3rd game.
@@rockstermaniac that's why he keeps getting paid though, consummate pro. He works his butt off and shows the young bucks what it takes to succeed, then he gets hurt and replaced and makes millions doing it, dont feel too bad for him
Honestly I think you knew after game 1 against the Chiefs. Didnt even know he was starting til less than 5 minutes before kickoff & he went toe to toe with Mahomes… I ordered his jersey mid game while I was watching that one
I hope my man Justin watched this! Manning gave his opinion on what you should and shouldn’t do ! Listen to the master quarterback! Let’s roll Bolts! Bolt up!⚡️⚡️🇺🇸⚡️⚡️
@@xilencered7788 Why is it that nobody has scrutinized Staley until the Chiefs game? It is because he has had this mentality all year and has been winning these games with these fourth down calls. He is sticking to his guns with what has won him games in the past, and that makes him a good coach. They have won far more games than lost by not playing conservative. Compare that to Mike Zimmer who is called overly conservative and blows big leads week in and week out, and the fanbase wants him gone.
@@schaufy21 he always talks about not underestimating/ overestimating the opponent. They overestimated the Chiefs, especially after they manhandled the raiders. The defense can only stop the Chiefs for so long before they become exhausted and start making mistakes hence the chiefs getting easy points at the end. I would not consider going for a field goal conservative after the first three plays failed at the goal line.
@@schaufy21 i do enjoy watching my chargers go for the win and not playing so passive they have in the past. They have had a ridiculous record of losing the lead in the 4th quarter. What I have a problem with is, when the defense/special teams comes up with a stop or good field position, you gotta put up points. Cant expect them to pull rabbits out of a hat all game.
Played with his 4th and 5th string receivers, a half hurt o line and broken ribs and ended up being second in passing yards That 27-0 lead qas blown because of a tired gassed defense and Lombardi predictable play calling trying not to lose instead of putting the ball in the end zone every time.
last year , "Joey Lynn, JR "", "Swing Pass Joe "our ex OC playing not to lose , just LIKE A. Lynn would do, when they DID have a lead ? In 7 games with a 10 point OR bigger lead , including this game , they WENT 2 - 5 in them ! HAVE to have a strong defense OR run the ball & in 4 + years that is NOT happen !
Wow, I don't know who this Manneng-guy/analyst is, but he sure knows a lot about quarterback play. He should've played--I bet he would've had a pretty decent career.
Now I know why people love arm talent like Herbert's so much. You can't make that throw, don't try this at home boys and girls, Herbert proceeds to make an impossible throw and completion!
Luck was a stud. 20 games over .500 with trash rosters. That's crazy. How many number 1 picks do what he did? Imagine what he would do with this roster. 😳 I'm happy; he's happy but that retirement was a gut punch.
Meh. The chargers didn’t lose anymore by not taking fg’s than they did because they dropped 2 td’s. I think it’s arguable in some of the situations (like the end of the 2nd quarter one where field position didn’t matter). But realistically the decisions made sense. And if they won the toss in OT we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation either XD. It was a good game :) (as a chargers fan even?!)
@@epicchaos1516 We HAVE had the Chiefs , right were THEY wanted us ! last 5 games , they have ONLY 9 more points & have lead those games only by around 4 & 1/2 minutes ? BUT, they are the MOST important minutes , the LAST ones of a game .
Normally, I’d agree with you, but not in this case. He’s had two seasons with two different schemes due to two different offensive coordinators and head coaches. He’s making plays regardless of the offensive scheme.
@@jimedick9496 agreed that he doesn't need a scheme. But I'm a fan of Staley's systems on both sides of the ball so far. Even on defense, as bad as they were, they were overachieving.
@@buggzo I love Staley’s aggressive approach. I think he’s the right coach to get them past that unbearable hurdle. You’re right, huge improvement on the defensive side.
@@buggzo Staley's doesn't do the play calling for the offense & he doesn't OVER RIDE those play calls much , either & that was the BIG PROBLEM for the last 2 years ? WHY in his 1st year we SET the NFL record for the MOST 4rth down tries . Why , the 1st 3 plays , SUCKED , play calling wise !
And Herbert has a more accurate arm and has about the same throwing power … Herberts IQ is off the charts he read defense crazy and he’s a 2 year pro ! Herbert is way better than josh Allen IMO
Not EVEN close ! More like A . Luck type of a QB ! Allen is much MORE of a running QB & has NOT had a 5, 000 + yard OR 38 TD passing year , yet ? Oh, and he is a TURN OVER machine , too . LOOK it up .
Peyton didnt complete the analysis on the first 4th down. Opp were on goal line. Could have a safety, or if we hold,as we did, great position and easier td drive next. So we did get 7. And, no need to use the 4th best play. Also, plays can be successful at any point. If yiu have 4th best play, not sure if he means 4th most comfortable for them, or 4th most successful. Either way, he is wrong about probability.
More Manning content please!
Tua or Mac Jones next?
Jones. He seems to grasp the Patriots’s offensive scheme really well. What makes him so effective in that scheme?
@@5891jonathan ua-cam.com/video/aDta4GItTpQ/v-deo.html 👊
@@GoldenSportsEnt That’s what I’m talking about!
Awesome analysis from someone who knows how to really play. I'd rather watch this than the talking heads of sports media. More please!
C’mon Peyton Come to LA and coach Herb for a bit. ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️🤗
Damm bro imagine if peyton became the OC for herbert. He would take him to the next level. Joe Lombardi is just...meh....not great, not bad. Just average.
It’ll be a beautiful thing
Broncos fan and Broncos whole organization not gonna like that g 😆
No
I hate that bozo
Really enjoy Manning giving perspective on Justin Herbert. Looking forward to more of this guys QBin'.
"Nobody can make that throw" 8 weeks later, he makes that throw.
And here…
The second one was an even better throw 😬
Elway could make that throw
Awesome analysis by Peyton Manning.
I could listen to Peyton break down of this all day ! Comment about that 55 yard throw was hilarious
Great to hear a great QB talking good football about another promising great QB, Go Chargers!!
I think it's great to hear from guys who know-as they teach their craft to us. Good commentators who do this well in game are Brock Huard and Tony Romo.
Damn Manning can break down with the best of them.
Wow a qb I have so much respect for giving a great analysis of my QB1 could watch this weekly
I could listen to Peyton talk about football forever.
Herberts pre-snap reads are what makes him better than most young QB’s. The quick snap play, he knows the safety is going to blitz. He knows that’s going to leave the middle of the field open. Hits the slant.
The X factor is, Herbert makes 3-4 throws every game that no other QB in the NFL can make. Unreal.
The first part of your comment may be right, but your second part isn’t. Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, etc., exist
@@GoldenSportsEnt yet he bested all of those QBs his second year in
@@GoldenSportsEnt I’m taking Wilson off your list for you
@@GoldenSportsEnt R. Wilson & M. Stafford were NOT making those throws last year ! More like Mohomes & maybe Rodgers were . But , to , me it's Mahomes & Herbert that show these throws week in & week out , now & that is a short list of NFL QB"S , now .
I like hearing Payton's take on the plays
I LOVE these vids by Patton! Best of all!
Nice job Peyton. Great analysis.
Herbert needs to win Superbowls ,then he will be one of the goat's ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
That is how it works lol I want him to as well as a person from Oregon be nice to see a fellow Oregon guy win a Super Bowl
Justin Herbert is showing great promise, l won’t be surprised if he makes it to a super bowl in the next season or two. The guy is awesome!
He's NOT doing it in 2024 ! Team is going to HAVE a lot of turn over by then ? 7 players making $ 20 + million on this team & NO way they can pay them all . FA"S are Eck, Everett , M. Davis , K 9 [ Murray ] ? Can Bosa & J C JACKSON make come backs ? If NOT, 1 of these could be cut ? To me BOTH could go , before OTHERS are cut ! Bosa has NOT lived up to his record breaking contract that he signed a couple of years ago , hell, he isn't even the BEST Bosa in the NFL .
As a chargers fan, the only solace I get in life is knowing how fucking amazing J Herb is
he's an absolute beast
You just went from NFL to "the only solace I get in life" but i got ya.
Payton Manning breaking down Herbert, music to my ears
Great stuff from Peyton! More, please...
The Chargers really lucked out. I mean usually with a rookie you can't tell if they're a Franchise QB in the first season. Like any of the ones from this year, even Mac Jones, I still don't think you know. With Herbert you knew he was a franchise QB from the 2nd or 3rd game.
After a decade of disappointment, we have another shot at the promised land in the next 5 to 10 years.
You are blessed. You have Herbert, good Oline, Great receivers and great running backs. You have an excellent offense. I'm jealous!
I feel for Tyrod Taylor though... dude just instantly turns whoever his backup is into an instant starter
@@rockstermaniac that's why he keeps getting paid though, consummate pro. He works his butt off and shows the young bucks what it takes to succeed, then he gets hurt and replaced and makes millions doing it, dont feel too bad for him
Honestly I think you knew after game 1 against the Chiefs. Didnt even know he was starting til less than 5 minutes before kickoff & he went toe to toe with Mahomes… I ordered his jersey mid game while I was watching that one
I remember watching Payton pick teams apart like a surgeon.
I hope my man Justin watched this! Manning gave his opinion on what you should and shouldn’t do ! Listen to the master quarterback! Let’s roll Bolts! Bolt up!⚡️⚡️🇺🇸⚡️⚡️
Peyton is such a blessing to listen to talk about football
Game recognize game.
JHerbo is gonna be good for a long time. Love watching him play
Love his attitude towards analytics.
Quite fitting after Thursday 😅
@@GoldenSportsEnt yes it is. Analytics vs Old school. If it works you look like a genius. If it fails, you piss off the fanbase
@@xilencered7788 Why is it that nobody has scrutinized Staley until the Chiefs game? It is because he has had this mentality all year and has been winning these games with these fourth down calls. He is sticking to his guns with what has won him games in the past, and that makes him a good coach. They have won far more games than lost by not playing conservative. Compare that to Mike Zimmer who is called overly conservative and blows big leads week in and week out, and the fanbase wants him gone.
@@schaufy21 he always talks about not underestimating/ overestimating the opponent. They overestimated the Chiefs, especially after they manhandled the raiders. The defense can only stop the Chiefs for so long before they become exhausted and start making mistakes hence the chiefs getting easy points at the end. I would not consider going for a field goal conservative after the first three plays failed at the goal line.
@@schaufy21 i do enjoy watching my chargers go for the win and not playing so passive they have in the past. They have had a ridiculous record of losing the lead in the 4th quarter. What I have a problem with is, when the defense/special teams comes up with a stop or good field position, you gotta put up points. Cant expect them to pull rabbits out of a hat all game.
I think Peyton would make a great head coach.
OC , for sure OR a BETTER QB coach !
Never learned so much about football in 10 minutes, probably know more now than my previous 30 years
Played with his 4th and 5th string receivers, a half hurt o line and broken ribs and ended up being second in passing yards
That 27-0 lead qas blown because of a tired gassed defense and Lombardi predictable play calling trying not to lose instead of putting the ball in the end zone every time.
last year , "Joey Lynn, JR "", "Swing Pass Joe "our ex OC playing not to lose , just LIKE A. Lynn would do, when they DID have a lead ? In 7 games with a 10 point OR bigger lead , including this game , they WENT 2 - 5 in them ! HAVE to have a strong defense OR run the ball & in 4 + years that is NOT happen !
Wow, I don't know who this Manneng-guy/analyst is, but he sure knows a lot about quarterback play. He should've played--I bet he would've had a pretty decent career.
Fr, his family must be really into the game or something, his knowledge is top tier!
Lmao peyton had me dying laughing your fourth best play is suddenly gonna work? Take the points lmao
Never thought about the the 4th best play
Man I could hear Peyton analyze plays all day.
Love Manning and Herbert
Now I know why people love arm talent like Herbert's so much. You can't make that throw, don't try this at home boys and girls, Herbert proceeds to make an impossible throw and completion!
Staley needs to talk with Manning to coach Herbie
Live and learn a win is a win nobody perfect... 4th down PLAYS sometimes you need to take the field goal 🏈
Mike and keenan had that corner on skates 😂😂😂😂😂
Hope herby is taking note’s
Could listen to PM all day
If a company wanted to make a fortune they would produce San Diego Chargers gear....
Herbert we love ❤
Herbert is legit for sure.
Needs to leave the Chargers or else his career will be wasted like Rivers’. Spanos sucks
Kellen Moore is going to take Herbert's talent to legendary status. ⚡⚡⚡
Gold!
If I was a young qb trying to cn into the league I would be call him up first after that Favre, Cunningham, Moon, Andrew Luck
Luck was a stud. 20 games over .500 with trash rosters. That's crazy. How many number 1 picks do what he did? Imagine what he would do with this roster. 😳
I'm happy; he's happy but that retirement was a gut punch.
Nice from one of the Greats ever
hey peyton for 2022 offseason go pay a visit to justin he is the next sheriff in the nfl !! ⚡️⚡️
3:40 literally DEFINES the Chargers vs KC matchup 2 days ago lol "ANALYTICS"
Meh. The chargers didn’t lose anymore by not taking fg’s than they did because they dropped 2 td’s. I think it’s arguable in some of the situations (like the end of the 2nd quarter one where field position didn’t matter). But realistically the decisions made sense. And if they won the toss in OT we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation either XD. It was a good game :) (as a chargers fan even?!)
@@WrongSpeedy for sure a good game, im just salty cuz we had the chiefs right where we wanted them and we missed our shot lol
@@epicchaos1516 We HAVE had the Chiefs , right were THEY wanted us ! last 5 games , they have ONLY 9 more points & have lead those games only by around 4 & 1/2 minutes ? BUT, they are the MOST important minutes , the LAST ones of a game .
Herbert got a rocket launcher he can throw like 80 yards I bet
He threw for 60 yards flat footed
How did you get Peyton Manning to do this
Peyton: you aight .. but lemme show u how it's done
How did you get a NFL QB to do this and especially Peyton? Do you have to pay him to do this?
Hope herb is watching this 😂
San Diego really got revenge on the Giants off of Justin Herbert.
Well, Spanos still owns the Chargers so they are still screwed
Herb is amazing but Chargers scheme doesn't get enough credit.
Normally, I’d agree with you, but not in this case. He’s had two seasons with two different schemes due to two different offensive coordinators and head coaches. He’s making plays regardless of the offensive scheme.
@@jimedick9496 agreed that he doesn't need a scheme. But I'm a fan of Staley's systems on both sides of the ball so far. Even on defense, as bad as they were, they were overachieving.
@@buggzo
I love Staley’s aggressive approach. I think he’s the right coach to get them past that unbearable hurdle. You’re right, huge improvement on the defensive side.
@@buggzo Staley's doesn't do the play calling for the offense & he doesn't OVER RIDE those play calls much , either & that was the BIG PROBLEM for the last 2 years ? WHY in his 1st year we SET the NFL record for the MOST 4rth down tries . Why , the 1st 3 plays , SUCKED , play calling wise !
"No, no, no... ANALYTICS!" 🤣🤣🤣
He reminds me of josh Allen a lot.
And Herbert has a more accurate arm and has about the same throwing power … Herberts IQ is off the charts he read defense crazy and he’s a 2 year pro ! Herbert is way better than josh Allen IMO
No way! Herbert is a mile better. Sorry,
Not EVEN close ! More like A . Luck type of a QB ! Allen is much MORE of a running QB & has NOT had a 5, 000 + yard OR 38 TD passing year , yet ? Oh, and he is a TURN OVER machine , too . LOOK it up .
zach can throw reverse
Peyton didnt complete the analysis on the first 4th down. Opp were on goal line. Could have a safety, or if we hold,as we did, great position and easier td drive next. So we did get 7. And, no need to use the 4th best play. Also, plays can be successful at any point. If yiu have 4th best play, not sure if he means 4th most comfortable for them, or 4th most successful. Either way, he is wrong about probability.
First d
can boomers stop talking about analytic pls ...
thx
Manning isn't a boomer, moron.
I thank the dolphins every day that they drafted tua instead of herbert. Bolt up.
😐
Me too. But that’s not to say Tua won’t be a solid QB too.
Tanked for Tua. He's been a lot better lately though. I mean he's on a 6 game winning streak. Has Herbert ever done that?
We blew it for sure.
@@5891jonathan "Solid" is far from what Herbert is.