*Correction for max base game build* at 3:18 as pointed out by @herxantpl6183 you can actually squeeze on defender's crest if you overcharm using a 3 cost charm, taking the DPS to 215.3 for base game setup! *What About Grubberfly's Elegy?* While its true you can double hit which would increase DPS on base game build, there is almost no situation where you can make it occur 100% of the time, and its so ridiculous to figure out an average of how often it would happen as there are way to many variables based on enemies - So I am treating it similarly to the no animation cancels rule and ignoring it. Furthermore on the pale court build bloom actually disables it retriggering at 1 mask from FoTF therefore it is not a consideration anyway!
Great video! Though man, really goes to show how unbalanced a lot of mods can be. Ive played Pale court and despite being 5 notches and seeming like it's high risk high reward, Abyssal Bloom is way too rediculous. Even when not at 1 HP, the fact that it gives damage and attack range means you can just sweep the first 2/3 of p5 without letting the bosses really attack at all
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I hear ya! I think the Pale Court charms are actually balanced for average skill players, however in the hands of a competent player - they can get out of hand REAL fast!
3:19 actually you can fit one more charm, if you use one of the triple notch charms to overcharm instead of grimchild, so you could add defender's crest for some bonus DPS. great vid nonetheless
3:13 you can deal a lot more DPS by alternating between flukenest casts and nail hits in this case the build would be: flukenest, shaman, strength, fury and some 2 notch summon also flukenest alone can deal 1000+ damage in a single cast on rare occasions (like when hornet 2 slides down the wall in her godhome arena)
I may revisit this some time and test the effects of spell weaving for dps - however flukenest in particular is hard to factor in as it can be a bit of a wild card on how much damage its dealing through the multi hit glitch. I like your thinking though its definitely interesting to consider!
technically if you can get grubberfly's elegy to double hit that would increase dps however: landing double hits with grubberfly's is extremely inconsistent so very very hard to get an "average" and make it into a number!
problem with spore shroom is you have to stop attacking to channel, and glowing womb is pretty close but even with the fury of the fallen boost its not quite as much as weaversong or grimmchild surprisingly! although it does have a lot more burst potential if you have 4 built up and ready to go!
You should use the infinite charm notch mod with that so you can see what the max damage would be with every single damage boosting charm AND all the health boosting charms that interact with abyssal bloom
Never seen this channel before, but this is really interesting content, loved the video. I'll definitely stick around. Something I haven't yet seen mentioned in the comments is the Transcendence mod which adds Lemm's Strength which can add up to 43 extra base nail damage and Florist's Blessing which just triples nail damage. Very nutty.
I first thought this is gonna be a lame video, where you just say here you have your chamrs and nail and this is the highest dps, but to my suprise it was way more interesting. Thanks for the video!
Grubberflys elegy also works with fury of the fallen and will reactivate at one hp and the beams combine with nail damage so the past three could’ve been used differently
My build to absolutely kill everything: Unbreakable Strength Mark Of Pride Quickslash Steady Body Grubsong or some other charm I want. *AHEM* wayward compass
Пришел напомнить с гвоздем четвертого уровня(да у многих боссов меняется хп от уровня гвоздя) у сияния 1700 хп, у потерянного собрата 1200, у зота от 1200 до 1500,у гримма 1000 и 1500 у короля кошмара, у самого живучего босса грез-маркота 705, и у самого живучего врага абсолютного сияния 2181 хп
ah yes that is a good point! I always forgot this as its a strange mechanic tbh! Translation from google if anyone is curious: "I came to remind you with a nail of the fourth level (yes, many bosses have HP that changes depending on the level of the nail) the radiance has 1700 HP, the lost brother has 1200, the Zot has from 1200 to 1500, the Grimm has 1000 and 1500 the King of Nightmare, the most tenacious boss of Dreams-Markot 705, and the most durable enemy of absolute radiance has 2181 HP"
I believe once you have mark of purity on (it lets you hold the button down to attack automatically) its more or less impossible to do turnarounds. (I'm 95% sure on that one)
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Love the videos man and no probs for helping out; I was curious when you said you could deal 570dps to the point of me putting down my big pile of saved up homework due in a few days and booting up the game 😅
Nail arts never out damage spamming if you need to charge the art instead of hitting, and double hits - yes it is more dps but its so situational on what it works against vs not I didnt include it - but yeah it would technically be a dmg increase when it works :)
I still think shriek would be higher dps. It does a ton of damage with shaman stone, can be casted many times in very quick sucession, and often double or triple hits large flying enemies. With good soul charms like twister and grubsong-weaverlings you shouldn't even have to worry about soul very much.
Honestly I hope they keep that unintended interaction between those two charms, keeping the attack boost at max level when you are at one HP can be challenging, so it's a reward, can you please tell me if they have ever fixed it in these 2 months after this video dropped?
Instead of grimmchild in the base game shouldn't you put on grubberflys elegy as it gives the range and extra damage and since using fury of the fallen allows it to trigger at one mask and its also powered up by strength? Or am I missing something?
generally speaking you can't hit the same target with both nail AND the projectile in 1 swing (well... you CAN but only on certain enemies on specific setups, and even there inconsistently) which means outside of those special scenarios it won't be a boost. another thing is unfortunately having abyssal bloom on disables the projectiles at 1 mask from fury.
Oh do you mean when I'm fighting the mantis lords? if so that just an odd bug that happened when I recorded that footage, nothing to worry about!@@NATEDOGGReborn
Really like the comparison visuals on this one, but I will now boycott unbreakable heart forever for beating sharp shadow by like 3% dps in this scenario. Unfortunate that I wasn't right with the 420 dps guess though but getting like 700 dps by cheating definitely makes up for that
Can I tell you a story about those visuals. Its my 1st time messing with a 3D scene. to do that, took as long as the entire rest of the video lmao T.T but now I get how to do it at least (and I am so glad you like it after all that haha!) TBH the 420 guess wasn't too far off, especially if that weird interaction didn't turbo charge the numbers!
@@ilikepigs7937 it's not as easy as you say though. Some enemies it's easier than others but even then the spacing must be just right. Trust me I did a lot of testing trying to figure just that very thing out when making the grubberflies elegy deep dive! An example of how finicky it is: you can be the exact same distance from an enemy - and depending on what frame of its attack it's currently in can decide if a double hit occurs or not. It's really weird coding I think 🤔
*Correction for max base game build* at 3:18 as pointed out by @herxantpl6183 you can actually squeeze on defender's crest if you overcharm using a 3 cost charm, taking the DPS to 215.3 for base game setup!
*What About Grubberfly's Elegy?* While its true you can double hit which would increase DPS on base game build, there is almost no situation where you can make it occur 100% of the time, and its so ridiculous to figure out an average of how often it would happen as there are way to many variables based on enemies - So I am treating it similarly to the no animation cancels rule and ignoring it.
Furthermore on the pale court build bloom actually disables it retriggering at 1 mask from FoTF therefore it is not a consideration anyway!
Great video! Though man, really goes to show how unbalanced a lot of mods can be. Ive played Pale court and despite being 5 notches and seeming like it's high risk high reward, Abyssal Bloom is way too rediculous. Even when not at 1 HP, the fact that it gives damage and attack range means you can just sweep the first 2/3 of p5 without letting the bosses really attack at all
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah I hear ya! I think the Pale Court charms are actually balanced for average skill players, however in the hands of a competent player - they can get out of hand REAL fast!
True
3:19 actually you can fit one more charm, if you use one of the triple notch charms to overcharm instead of grimchild, so you could add defender's crest for some bonus DPS. great vid nonetheless
Oh shoot you are actually completely right! *facepalm* ok so that would put it to 215.3 DPS max for base game! good spot!
3:13
you can deal a lot more DPS by alternating between flukenest casts and nail hits
in this case the build would be: flukenest, shaman, strength, fury and some 2 notch summon
also flukenest alone can deal 1000+ damage in a single cast on rare occasions (like when hornet 2 slides down the wall in her godhome arena)
I may revisit this some time and test the effects of spell weaving for dps - however flukenest in particular is hard to factor in as it can be a bit of a wild card on how much damage its dealing through the multi hit glitch. I like your thinking though its definitely interesting to consider!
I would've used grubberfly's elegy, since you can still use it at 1 mask with fury of the fallen.
technically if you can get grubberfly's elegy to double hit that would increase dps however: landing double hits with grubberfly's is extremely inconsistent so very very hard to get an "average" and make it into a number!
For a base game charm build, would Spore Shroom + Glowing Womb + Fury (maybe even Defender's Crest) do better than Grimmchild + Weaversong?
problem with spore shroom is you have to stop attacking to channel, and glowing womb is pretty close but even with the fury of the fallen boost its not quite as much as weaversong or grimmchild surprisingly! although it does have a lot more burst potential if you have 4 built up and ready to go!
Finally I can defeat mawlek
You should use the infinite charm notch mod with that so you can see what the max damage would be with every single damage boosting charm AND all the health boosting charms that interact with abyssal bloom
Hmm perhaps you missed the end because that's exactly what I did at 9:40 =D
And this is why charm synergies are good, kids.
Really loved the video! Keep up the great work man!
Thanks a ton!
Never seen this channel before, but this is really interesting content, loved the video. I'll definitely stick around. Something I haven't yet seen mentioned in the comments is the Transcendence mod which adds Lemm's Strength which can add up to 43 extra base nail damage and Florist's Blessing which just triples nail damage. Very nutty.
another insane video from the goat himself!
i also love how you did the hollow knight podium with the shadow, it looks epic
Thanks man and glad you enjoyed!
Hi masker!!!
You forgot to overcharm with wayward compass
I first thought this is gonna be a lame video, where you just say here you have your chamrs and nail and this is the highest dps, but to my suprise it was way more interesting. Thanks for the video!
This is the best kind of comment to get as a creator! So glad you enjoyed it and found it entertaining!
Grubberflys elegy also works with fury of the fallen and will reactivate at one hp and the beams combine with nail damage so the past three could’ve been used differently
My build to absolutely kill everything:
Unbreakable Strength
Mark Of Pride
Quickslash
Steady Body
Grubsong or some other charm I want. *AHEM* wayward compass
WAIT WHAT ABOUT GRUBBERFLY ELEGY IT ADDS AN EXTRA PROJECTILE SO MAYBE IT WILL WORK?
Пришел напомнить с гвоздем четвертого уровня(да у многих боссов меняется хп от уровня гвоздя) у сияния 1700 хп, у потерянного собрата 1200, у зота от 1200 до 1500,у гримма 1000 и 1500 у короля кошмара, у самого живучего босса грез-маркота 705, и у самого живучего врага абсолютного сияния 2181 хп
ah yes that is a good point! I always forgot this as its a strange mechanic tbh!
Translation from google if anyone is curious:
"I came to remind you with a nail of the fourth level (yes, many bosses have HP that changes depending on the level of the nail) the radiance has 1700 HP, the lost brother has 1200, the Zot has from 1200 to 1500, the Grimm has 1000 and 1500 the King of Nightmare, the most tenacious boss of Dreams-Markot 705, and the most durable enemy of absolute radiance has 2181 HP"
I wonder if mail turnarounds would have an effect even with that high
Attack speed
I believe once you have mark of purity on (it lets you hold the button down to attack automatically) its more or less impossible to do turnarounds. (I'm 95% sure on that one)
Like & Sub if you enjoyed as not only does it tell me to make more content like this, but just generally really helps smaller channels like my own! And of course, Thanks for watching!
if i could sub twice i would
Love the videos man and no probs for helping out; I was curious when you said you could deal 570dps to the point of me putting down my big pile of saved up homework due in a few days and booting up the game 😅
hahaha love the dedication my dude! Hopefully you got the homework done in time as well! 🤣
@@Vegathron just finished 😀🙂😐😑😴
@@Thea-Time-13th p.s. you have homework on the HOLIDAYS??? you're teacher is truly cruel! 🤣
@@Vegathron nah I was just too lazy- ahum busy to make it before the holidays ^^
@@Thea-Time-13th hahaha dw i know that feeling!
The Yugioh life point calculation sound is always satisfying
Right? I love it 🤣
Flukemarm glitch
Why not add nail masters glory for better dps using cyclone or elegy for double hits both of witch increase dps by over 5%
Nail arts never out damage spamming if you need to charge the art instead of hitting, and double hits - yes it is more dps but its so situational on what it works against vs not I didnt include it - but yeah it would technically be a dmg increase when it works :)
I still think shriek would be higher dps. It does a ton of damage with shaman stone, can be casted many times in very quick sucession, and often double or triple hits large flying enemies. With good soul charms like twister and grubsong-weaverlings you shouldn't even have to worry about soul very much.
Check out my spellweaving video I go through the numbers on that exact thing! :D
You did good but there's more!
Point me in the direction sir!
@@Vegathron For eg,artifacts
@@DNAHCKR-19114what mod is that?
@@Vegathron I don't quite remember but its a mod of lost artifacts, I just randomly found it on mod list.
Ps: Sorry for late reply :P
@@hollowknightenjoyer Damn, too late now, I said farewell to Hollow Knight. But the teachings and arts will be a part of me
Still less damage than nkg does to me in 1 second
Honestly I hope they keep that unintended interaction between those two charms, keeping the attack boost at max level when you are at one HP can be challenging, so it's a reward, can you please tell me if they have ever fixed it in these 2 months after this video dropped?
Yeah I actually think its a cool interaction! Nope no fixes yet! =D
Instead of grimmchild in the base game shouldn't you put on grubberflys elegy as it gives the range and extra damage and since using fury of the fallen allows it to trigger at one mask and its also powered up by strength? Or am I missing something?
generally speaking you can't hit the same target with both nail AND the projectile in 1 swing (well... you CAN but only on certain enemies on specific setups, and even there inconsistently) which means outside of those special scenarios it won't be a boost. another thing is unfortunately having abyssal bloom on disables the projectiles at 1 mask from fury.
can't you double hit enemies with grubberflies elergy?
Hi there! I've had a few people ask this now, check out pinned comment for my answer!
At least you know maths...
Well,what if you do nailmaster's glory + cyclone slash perfectly going side to side to absolutely maximize the dps? (In the base game total)
Its a good question! infact one of the vids I have planned will compare this very thing!
@@Vegathron woah,nice! Thanks for answering :D that's a first for me haha
How did you keep your health at 1 mask and get the bonus masks?? Did you go around to collect those so you can keep your health low??
which part are you referring to specifically?
2:56 its showing one HP but you have full bonus masks. sorry im new to the game still learning. @@Vegathron
Oh do you mean when I'm fighting the mantis lords? if so that just an odd bug that happened when I recorded that footage, nothing to worry about!@@NATEDOGGReborn
ngl im sad mark of pride wasnt included for the 3 charm
Very inspiring! I hope my next big video is half as good as yours 😀
What about instead of weaversong and grimmchild, you use the grubfathers last charm drop?
Really like the comparison visuals on this one, but I will now boycott unbreakable heart forever for beating sharp shadow by like 3% dps in this scenario. Unfortunate that I wasn't right with the 420 dps guess though but getting like 700 dps by cheating definitely makes up for that
Can I tell you a story about those visuals. Its my 1st time messing with a 3D scene. to do that, took as long as the entire rest of the video lmao T.T but now I get how to do it at least (and I am so glad you like it after all that haha!) TBH the 420 guess wasn't too far off, especially if that weird interaction didn't turbo charge the numbers!
@@Vegathron Sure! I've never touched 3D stuff so it'll be an interesting read and might even help me if i ever need to do some 3D stuff
@@Roid33 Haha OH nono I won't bore you with all the details - the story WAS that it took so long! 🤣
@@Vegathron Ohhh yeah i misunderstood that part, at least now i know that 3D thing-making is a long process now
I want a charm build to kill Grey Prince Zote
curious as to what custom knight skin you use to make your attack animation look like lord of shades?
@@cidfernandez6574 it's actually from a charm effect from the pale court mod!
@@Vegathron alright thanks for the answer, time to grind again then
I don't really think mods need to count...
Using mode you can just use a cheat mod that makes your nail do a ton of damage
LEGACY QUICK SLASH IS 2 NOTCHES!!!!
like in the beta? That's nuts!
If you replace grim child with elegy wouldn’t that do more dps?
If you could get double hits with it - yes... sorta? but its so spaghetti and inconsistent to get double hits that even I decided not to count it!
@@Vegathron if you go close up to the enemy, both your nail and you beam wave hit meaning a double hit for a regular nail slab
Slash*
@@ilikepigs7937 it's not as easy as you say though. Some enemies it's easier than others but even then the spacing must be just right. Trust me I did a lot of testing trying to figure just that very thing out when making the grubberflies elegy deep dive! An example of how finicky it is: you can be the exact same distance from an enemy - and depending on what frame of its attack it's currently in can decide if a double hit occurs or not. It's really weird coding I think 🤔
@@Vegathron i see thanks!
how long did this math take
Not as long as you may think as I already had a lot of numbers from when I did the charm deep dives:)
Is this mod?
Put legacy quickslash into the pale court one
Me and my friend did a hypothetical scenario and got 28'068 damage for hit counting Pale Court