Should The Devils Trade Dawson Mercer or Simon Nemec For Jacob Markstrom?; Patrik Laine Wants Out

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Steve Kouleas was recently on NHL Network talking about potential trade packages for Jacob Markstrom. At one point, he suggested that the New Jersey Devils should either trade away Dawson Mercer, Simon Nemec, or a few high-end draft picks for his services. Patrik Laine wants a fresh start and might be traded this offseason. While he might not be a top option, it's still something that Tom Fitzgerald should inquire.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 43

  • @headsuphockeypodcast2707
    @headsuphockeypodcast2707 3 місяці тому +9

    HELL NO. Not trading either of them. Keep the 10th overall pick.

  • @davidgiles1589
    @davidgiles1589 3 місяці тому +4

    As a Flames fan, I dont think you understand just how good Markstom can be. He was in the Vezina conversation up to the trade deadline until we lost half our D.

    • @nunya44288
      @nunya44288 3 місяці тому +1

      Nah, we understand. He’s just old as fuck. Trade value is inflated coming off of a hot year. And there’s no guarantee that can be replicated as he ages. Now if he’s 29/30 then this is a different conversation.

    • @nickadams6537
      @nickadams6537 3 місяці тому

      He's old & slightly above average. Not worth the asking price.

  • @djentleman7
    @djentleman7 3 місяці тому +4

    Neither for Markstrom. I don't really want to trade Nemec in any circumstance, hard to let go of Mercer too. Laine is interesting though maybe see whats on the table for him?

  • @AJ72281
    @AJ72281 3 місяці тому +3

    Am I the only one who doesn’t want Markstrom? He’d be a temporary fix. The Devils need a younger, elite goalie locked down for a decent time. If they go with Markstrom, they better sign him for no more than 3 years, but they also need to concentrate on improving the blue line by a lot, not only in talent, but also structure…… Strong defense makes a good goalie a great goalie……

    • @zachw4829
      @zachw4829 3 місяці тому

      def need more grit and structure if the devils plan on going deep in the playoffs

  • @michaelmignone5869
    @michaelmignone5869 3 місяці тому +3

    Def not to moving either. Rather upgrade the D and roll Allen/Daws or allen/kahkonen instead of trading nemec or mercer. Maybe clarke + a 3rd or clarke + a 5th + another prospect not named casey or hameenaho

    • @anson.meadows
      @anson.meadows 3 місяці тому

      Exactly. Goalies should be home-grown, ideally. It’s such a fickle position and aside from being old, Markstrom won’t fix the D…

  • @devilsarebeastly
    @devilsarebeastly 3 місяці тому +2

    If anyone outside of Ottawa even thinks about trading for Nemec they're smoking some cheap crack that's been cut with fentanyl.

  • @Dirks_NUMA_Files
    @Dirks_NUMA_Files 3 місяці тому +1

    Neither for Markstrom. I might rethink it for that position for Ullmark, but if I was to move one of them then the 10th pick would not be part of that package

  • @Manny0404
    @Manny0404 3 місяці тому +4

    Let me think long and hard....🤔🤔🤔
    *NO NO and…NO*

  • @robertlamkin6464
    @robertlamkin6464 3 місяці тому

    Do not give up picks for Markstrom or the guy from Columbus. The only way that would work for me is in getting gritty bottom six person, and physical defenseman.
    As for goaltending roll the dice with Schmid.

  • @mitchellchambers7070
    @mitchellchambers7070 3 місяці тому

    No. I would give up the 10th overall pick but that is it. I would make Calgary picks up part of the tab too.

  • @michaelmcmahan2101
    @michaelmcmahan2101 3 місяці тому +1

    Holtz and the 10# pick for Ullmark would make me happier than anything big or small we give for markstrom 😅😅

    • @zachw4829
      @zachw4829 3 місяці тому

      this ! Ill dream with ya brother

    • @mysterymystery5463
      @mysterymystery5463 3 місяці тому

      No way the pick is too much ..

    • @michaelmcmahan2101
      @michaelmcmahan2101 3 місяці тому

      @@mysterymystery5463 so a 17 year old kid that won’t be relevant to us for years. And may not actually develop into anything is somehow worth more than a solid award winning goalie who we know for a fact would be exactly what we need in the net right now? Yeah that checks out.

  • @MisterMonsterMan
    @MisterMonsterMan 3 місяці тому

    Markstom (20% retained) + the 28th overall pick (via VAN) for 10th overall pick + ?

  • @guitarmemoir
    @guitarmemoir 3 місяці тому

    As for Markstrom having the leverage because he has to waive, the Flames have the leverage of not dealing him unless he goes to the team that offers the best deal. If he wants to move on he will probably comply. I think it is a wash. I have heard he will not waive to a WC team, he wants to be in the East. So there is that.
    Seems like NJ fans want to give up next to nothing for a top tier goaltender and Flames fans want the entire farm for two years of Markstrom.
    I think NJ fans have to realize that dealing for potential upside is risky. Just like dealing for picks. There is no guarantee on any pick, even 10th overall. You might get a Mikko Rantanen, but it might be a Nick Ritchie. Mercer's future looks bright, but it wouldn't be the first time a young player with ostensibly tonnes of upside doesn't achieve it.
    I also think that Flames fans need to realize 10 OA probably isn't happening without an add. Same with Mercer.
    However, in the case of Mercer, or Bahl for that matter, if CGY really wants them, new offer sheet rules only require a 2nd round pick compensation for a sheet up to $4.5 mil. They can also use that option as leverage.
    Either way, I would like to see Markstrom finally dealt so everyone can finally focus on something else. 😉

  • @Cape-Dweller
    @Cape-Dweller 3 місяці тому

    10th pick for Markstrom sounds like that 9th pick (that turned out to be Bo Horvath) for Corey Schneider. No Thanks

  • @SnelSports
    @SnelSports 3 місяці тому

    Hischier, Draisaitl, Meier 2026 👌 Devils should wait another 2 years to spend big time money, see how our goaltending plays out and go all in for Leon in 2026

  • @DouglasDietsch
    @DouglasDietsch 3 місяці тому

    “It’s not often a team trades its silky smooth scorer….even less common to target a ‘pest’ in return. The swap signaled Florida was ready for a redo…taking a first step…to propel the Panthers farther than they’d been in 25 years.” That’s from an ESPN article a while back. Jack is our Huberdeau. Could Jack ever make it through the playoffs? Be honest. Jack can’t even make it through a regular season. Look at the brutal physicality of game 2 a couple of nights ago. Glorious intense heavyweight playoff hockey. Devils Championship? Not when your best player is 5’10” 167. Forget it. Get Brady. Go back to our roots. Establish a take no prisoner culture once again. That is Devils Hockey.

  • @anson.meadows
    @anson.meadows 3 місяці тому

    *DO NOT* make this trade, Fitz.
    Keep your assets and shop smart.
    Growing goalies is ideal…

  • @johnnybgoode2585
    @johnnybgoode2585 3 місяці тому

    Calgary wants 10oa AND holtz or Casey lmao

  • @millertime1101
    @millertime1101 3 місяці тому

    They are not a playoff team team and Flames goalie is short term already lost a bunch of prospects can lose more

  • @Christopher_Penc
    @Christopher_Penc 3 місяці тому

    I don't think the Devils will get Laine.

  • @zachw4829
    @zachw4829 3 місяці тому

    UGhh neither especially mercer, guy has alot of potential as well as nemec. Hard pass

  • @Semaj2326
    @Semaj2326 3 місяці тому

    No

  • @nickadams6537
    @nickadams6537 3 місяці тому

    I don't want Markstrom. They should trade Dawson Mercer for someone else though. The guy sucks.

  • @dredd2225
    @dredd2225 3 місяці тому +1

    Pay the price, if not. Enjoy another early exit!!!

  • @loopdog9598
    @loopdog9598 3 місяці тому

    If you have a plethora of solid prospects and picks, wouldn't it be wise to trade for a piece that you are missing? You have to give to get. Markstrom instantly makes your team a contender, Mercer does not. Maybe you just need another year of missing out before you realize how important goaltending is. NJ history with goalies makes me think you all should know better.

    • @anson.meadows
      @anson.meadows 3 місяці тому

      The lesson is you home-grow goalies, you don’t do expensive shopping for the most fickle position in the game.

    • @loopdog9598
      @loopdog9598 3 місяці тому +1

      @@anson.meadows I agree. The problem arises when your window is open and you haven't home-grown someone. Then it gets pricey.

  • @CLo-ly1ic
    @CLo-ly1ic 3 місяці тому

    Markstrom will not be going to Jersey!!! 💯 Marky is headed to Senators... Devils could get Saros or Ullmark

  • @davidgiles1589
    @davidgiles1589 3 місяці тому +1

    As a Flames fan, I dont think you understand just how good Markstom can be. He was in the Vezina conversation up to the trade deadline until we lost half our D.

    • @Devilsfan-pd8ov
      @Devilsfan-pd8ov 3 місяці тому

      Markstrom to old not worth as much as you think

  • @mikeynav6495
    @mikeynav6495 3 місяці тому

    Marino or Siegenthaler+Holtz+3rd-round pick. If retaining, they'll need to throw a prospect.

  • @mysterymystery5463
    @mysterymystery5463 3 місяці тому

    Need to trade holtz and marino for ullmark.

  • @randomcrap763
    @randomcrap763 3 місяці тому

    Not just no but HELL no!!

  • @ARusso22TV
    @ARusso22TV 3 місяці тому +1

    Only way we trade Mercer if he’s part of a package for Brady tkachuk