Why does Ukraine want tanks? | The Tank Museum
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- Curator David Willey revisits the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, looking at the role of the tank and how it has been making headlines since his last update in May 2022. • Ukraine & T-72: The de...
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00:00 | Intro
01:22 | Recap
09:46 | Supply of Weaponry
13:56 | Change of Tactics
16:31 | Demand for Tanks
21:53 | Conclusion
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Very good, and recognizes the nuance.
You mentioned the command/control aspect. Be interesting to hear a discussion on how that evolved from, say, 7 Years War or Napoleon to now.
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La Russia è stata costretta ad intervenire in Ucraina; l'Ucraina è fondamentalmente persa .
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Video is excellent and informed, and unlike the derp commenting "unsubbed" I think it's balanced and apolitical, just stating facts devoid of propaganda.
About 15 seconds in and David says, "I want to talk about tanks today".
David, it's Friday, we wait all week for you to talk about them today.
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Also that's all he talks about.
Lol
@easystreets70 Because Russia is a parasite nation with a megalomaniac leader who is Hell bent on pulling independent nations back into a new Russian empire that they don't want to be a part of, & who is trying to ethnically cleanse Russia of its minorities by over-emphasising their conscription into his army as fodder for his illegal invasion.
*WORD!*
I came for the tanks, I stayed for the wonderfully presented war effort analysis and strategic talk about both sides of the war. This is better than most current affair reports made by local TV stations where I live. Excellent video!
I came
The presentation was truly exceptional, a remarkable demonstration of the excellence of The Tank Museum as an institution. The intelligent and unbiased analysis of the war was truly insightful, providing me with a wealth of new knowledge and perspectives. I was particularly impressed with how the presentation opened up new avenues of thought, sparking my curiosity and expanding my understanding of the subject matter. I extend my heartfelt appreciation for sharing such a wonderful and enlightening experience with us.
Your gratitude and compliments wer😂e so over-the-top that they felt sarcastic. It made me expect a twist at the end but it never came lol
@@nelsonw.9483 I had probably had to much wine at this point.
Yeah I like how he is balanced in it. Especially at the end. Tanks are not invulnerable.
What tank is he standing by?
Armata is garbage. Finally even the Russians admit it. Thpught it was a brilliant idea until I read that the entire platform was based off an engine with a "I fix ya later by the time other systems are in place".
Unbiased? Hmmm.
This guy is the final boss of tank knowledge.
A never-ending stream of facts in one take. Remarkable.
When you get him down to half health David Fletcher and his glorious mustache jump in to tag team you.
Literally admits he won't say anything that would give succor to Russians or undermine Ukrainian confidence.
While I understand the sentiment, it's still an open admission that fact based discussion isn't a priority regardless of what may come of it.
Fog of war is being maintained, not parted.
nah he's the fake out final boss to the real final boss David Fletcher, all 4 feet of him
There is no indication that this is one take.
He's literally not even on screen for minutes at a time. Easily could be cut together.
I mean there is a clear cut at 1:22 at the end of the intro. So "one take" is not accurate.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow ok ok calm down. I will just say that this guy knows more about tanks than you.
Hearing the tank museum say the words “cope cages” makes me smile
that's all I needed, cope cage is now the official technical term from here on out
It's kinda unprofessional, considering what they are actually supposed to do (stop old conventional HEAT rockets like RPG-7, RPG-16 and even RPG-22), and what they face (literally the Best anti tank weaponry on Earth).
It's like saying the Schurzen was ineffective because Bazooka and HEAT could go through it: the Schurzen was designed to protect against anti tank rifles
It's actually not a bad idea per se considering how many videos are there of commercial drones dropping mortar shells on top of tanks. There needs to be a defense against it and today not even most modern Western tanks have it. So B- for effort
@@alessiobubbles5345 You must be fun at parties...
@@phunkracy I'd say B because of the psychological side of things: just like the sandbags on the front of American tanks in Normandy
3:00 hearing the professor saying "cope cages" has brought immense joy to my life.
It's stupid propaganda for feeble minded teens. Cages are against RGD-3 type anti-tank shaped charge grenades that Ukronazis are dropping drones.
What a world we live in.
Especially with that almost comical illustration of that pathetic cope cage fitted tank wreck.
Cope cages is just another twist version of Hillbilly armor. I think it been around since Vietnam.
@@Benz2533 it was used in ww2. They even used concrete!
David has done an excellent job of walking through the minefield of a current event that is the war in Ukraine. This is a very important discussion about what is happening and why it not just about tanks, because tanks don't operate in a vacuum, they operate in a fluid three dimensional environment, where a threat can come from anywhere. David has also done an excellent job of walking the fine line between real results, concealing potential future opportunities and peering through the fog of propaganda. No easy task.
Keep up with the good work David, and I am looking forward to the next episode of Tank Chats.
Mark from Melbourne Australia
I love hearing somebody like David saying "cope cages" since it's a term from the younger generations. Fully validated.
Definitely
Your insights about the war, combined with factual assessments that are scarce in the current environment of propaganda, are much appreciated!
FACTS Russia had been reducing the size of their armed forces we know these units were short on manpower it was a show of force admittedly a bad idea they won't repeat. Javelin and Stinger have been a failure Ukrainians report at least half failed to fire or explode. US military reports show even TRAINED US troops only manage hits 19% of the time with Javlin not destruction just a hit. The NLAW has been shown as near useless often failing much like the Brimstone missile declared near useless by the UK. A trick of the Ukrainians is to film the same vehicle from multiple angles claiming every view is a new vehicle destroyed you would know this unfortunately your subject to UK propaganda by the JBC Israels mouthpiece in Europe. Other than that keep up the good work eventually Brits will realise they have been hoodwinked into supporting Nazis guessing you had no idea Britain created Right Sector 1 and 2 using UK Nazis and America created AZOV using US Nazis who have admitted it. Theres ADIR and many other NAZI groups hundreds of thousands who also admitted the UKRAINE Government told them to execute and commit atrocious against Russian soldiers as propaganda. ZZelinsky will no doubt get a neck tie for war crimes as will most of his government and military officials that survive. Your Parents Grandparents and Churchill must be so proud of how Britain now ruled by the TRIBE supports their dreaded enemies Nazis and how docile the SERFS in the UK are about it.
FYI Ukrainians are dyinflg like flies it's almost over the reason for the panic in Europe
The only insight that has not been clearly acknowledged is that Russia grabbed exactly what it really wanted in the first 3 months of the war,,All this talk about taking over Ukraine is a total media fantasy, Like the Russians want a Nationalist Western backed insurgency for the next 50 years, instead there is a sizable pro-Russian ethnic group in the occupied areas, Now it is just a war of attrition to a settlement while the world suffers for it. About that simple.
too true man, propaganda is flipping everywhere every side pushing it out, i hope we (America) doesn’t give them old outdated versions of the M1 Abrams,i can’t find out why they refuse to give any tank with D.U. armor inserts.
Except that it's mostly propaganda too.
So nice to hear someone who knows more about this subject than what "world of tanks" has shown him. He gets that the machines arent invulnerable
he was spewing propaganda
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@@fred6319 Vatnik
World of Tanks is a huge sponsor of the Bovington Tank Musueum...
@@fred6319 Don't you have Ukrainian soil to fertilise? I hear Wagner's hiring…
_“We have finished off the Russian professional army. Now it’s time to finish off the amateur one.”_ -Anton Gerashchenko
🟦 Слава Україні! - Glory to Ukraine!
🟨 Героям слава! - Glory to heroes!
Thank you for a brilliant presentation, and thank you also for not forgetting the people in the middle of this nightmare.
Excellent. I thought I would probably be skipping through this, but ended up watching every minute of it. The presenter knowledgeably covers a lot more than just the tank issue the title might suggest, and the analysis is steeped in more realism than we often see these days. Well done.
Absolutely.
Exactly. One the best overviews of the war i have seen
(23:38) This clip is short, but the story it tells is chilling. The desperation of the Russian soldier as he frantically tries to shoot down the incoming drone is disturbing, to say the least.
Indeed. Warfare is changing. It's both fascinating and unsettling at the same time.
The way we kill each other may change, but one thing that this war is confirming is at the end of the day Artillery is still king and an individual in a hole is (still) extremely hard to kill.
The whole situation may be chilling for some in the eastern sphere...
For me on the other side, seeing his rotting dead corpse, or bits of it would be a very pleasant view indeed.
@Piotr Szymon Sułkowski While I understand your viewpoint, I was trying to take a more elevated view with regard to general humanity/empathy.
Artillery lends dignity to what otherwise would be a vulgar
F&#%$@g brawl!
Of course, during the 70s ya heard all kinds of them from units serving in NATO.
@@lenmaclean3815 there is no dignity in war.
Hi Tank team. You guys are the best. Love all the content. In fact, if I had any complaints about this format, it’s that, there’s not enough videos. Don’t hold back from doing more and I fully appreciate as much depth on topic as you can manage for your videos.
All the little nuances of info actually help me digest Ukraine current events and put it all in a good context. Thanks again.
@easystreets70 and you are an apologist for a disgusting regime led by Putin that is destroying the lives and efforts of generations. Putin is the real Russian hater.
Ukraine can’t win this war. It’s mass delusion. Better for Ukraine to talk peace.
We are now a year into The New (Next) Cold War.
@easystreets70 He's quite clearly telling people to be careful underestimating the Russian army. That's not really something you'd hear from a Russia-hater.
14:42 - one of the most important rules in combat: Never underestimate your enemy.
I have enjoyed tank chats for years this one i found very interesting thank you David and all involved.
Thank you for doing this. This in-depth type of analysis is what we need in an age of Tick-tock and 24-hour news that is the same hype repeated every few hours.
One of the few Western videos that accurately describes the course of the war and the state of affairs in Ukraine. Thank you for your support!
Not even close. It's a propaganda speech with zero facts and sources.
@@BigSmartArmed Yup, definitely the propaganda of the aggressor knows better😄
@@illiafadieiev6937 Yes, US-NATO is the aggressor, that is committing war crimes not stop to reach a goal of dismembering Russia to loot its natural resources. And to genocide Slavs. If you don't get that, then you are the bad baddy, so you might as well start getting nazi tats for your coming out of the nazi closet party.
@@BigSmartArmed Mental illness is very sad, I hope you get better. I have heard that haloperidol is a fairly effective and affordable remedy for hallucinations, but it is best to consult a doctor
@@illiafadieiev6937 Oh, so you are a Psychiatrist that can make diagnoses for antipsychotic prescription, and you can do that on a bases of a single YT comment from an internet stranger. OK, so what is you medical degree and in which medical institution do you practice psychiatry?
Other then that, you come off as a typical sociopath, so feel free to keep coming back for free face kicks, I'll play along until I'll get bored with you.
My birthday treat as a kid was a day out at Bovington Tank Museum in the 1950's and early 60's
Thank you for the presentation concise, knowledgeable, but easy to appreciate.
For the future tank designers are going to have to include space for an extra man to operate a series of eternally mounted drones that can give the commander a visual oversight of the surrounding and suicide attack drones, that will allow an element of stealth before the main armament comes into play and maybe ammunition that is a carrier for attack drones.
I also think that a stubby smooth bore tube that fire a case style round loaded with a large quantity of steel ball bearings that is mounted so that the tube can be swung like a shotgun will be needed to defend the tank against incoming drones firing at short range 50 - 100 yards operated by movement sensors and using the trail and spread of shot to hit and disable an attacking drone.
Funny having been so interested in tanks as a kid I joined the RAF, but that's another story.
Not only a renowed tank museum but also a valuable source of information about current afairs in UA. Thanks!
Yeah....right 🙄
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@@themuckler8176 11 months account, russian bot.
Extremely informative. Thanks!
It also undermines his credibility as saying "Cope Cages" indicates that he's unaware of the long history of improvised armor, including in NATO militaries (i.e. steel plates on the sides of Humvees, slat armor on the sides of Strykers, etc..), and how it's not supposed to address top-down ATGM's, but also building-fired RPG's, drone-dropped grenades, and more.
But he subsequently admitted that the Tank Museum is acting as a propaganda outlet for Ukraine.
Well reasoned analysis that all the media people should be required to watch. Thank you.
Please keep updating it.
It’s very interesting to hear you guys cover current events.
I agree. This is fascinating stuff!
I love it!
This has to be one the best takes on this tragic ongoing war I've seen until now: focused on facts and informations (that we know of), even if a bit of conscious bias is present. 25 minutes very well spent.
Thank you. Your explanations of military realities are top-notch.
Well Done Mr Willey !! Very informative and well-researched. You know your stuff !!!!
This is a very informative video, I actually learned a lot. This was very well done all around, like a TV episode, thank you.
What a great tank chat, even my wife watches!! Can't wait until I can come and visit the museum from Canada.
@easystreets70 I feel so sorry for you
Another excellent analysis. Thank you David, and the Tank Museum.
Thank you for talking about a serious subject in a professional and objective manner, without asking people to subscribe and give a thumbs up.
Agreed. Now do them a favour; subscribe and give them a thumbs up!
He literally said out loud he wasn't going to be objective lol
Great job. Great presenter. Great subject. Well done. Tanks are the mailed fist of a combined arms formation. They work with artillery and air to suppress the enemy and obscure visibility. Then the engineers clear obstacles while being covered by direct and indirect fires. Then the tanks create a breach for the infantry to pass through. Neither of the engaged armies are employing effective combined arms
Partly due to limited resources on ukraine's side. And... idiot high command on russian.
Except for, you know, the Russians who are, you know, winning and are going to end this conflict on their own terms? Seriously, when the Russians end this, will you guys stop the downplay? It's sad. Like the Ukrainians still trying to hold onto Bakhmut.
Such a disgusting armchair general inverting reality to avoid the obvious conclusion that even if what you said was true, the Russians obviously have a better grasp of combined arms since they're, you know, winning. And yeah, try making a breakthrough with tanks against fortified positions against any number of the threats modern tanks face when those very same maneuvers depend on an element of surprise very rare on the modern battlefield where everything from drones to satellites can track large, concentrated vehicle movements and send it to people to plug up the gap. Idiots like you and the abk museums just do not get it for the life of you: any modern conventional war between two competent and comparable forces is quickly going to resemble more WW1 style trench warfare or the mid to later stages of WW's eastern front than operation Barbarossa in which case maneuver is fundamentally less important and less harnessable by either side than firepower and attrition. I would honestly love to see any western armed force in either the position of the Russ or Ukies try blitzkrieg on the steppes of Ukraine and see how far they get and what losses they take and how quickly.
I think you are right, but is it fair to say that about Ukraine? I’m not sure they have enough armour to expend, the way an army needs when on the offensive. I think if they used up all their armour for one big push, they would be in a weaker position. So I wonder if by the end of summer and they get their new tanks, that this would still apply.
@@MyDogmatix Why would a neutral (if not entirely accurate) description of the use of tanks in attacks be "unfair" to Ukraine?
Thank you David, a very sobering and truthful summery of a difficult and horrific war. We stand together with the People of Ukraine.
Do you mean "Suck together with Ukraine's nazism"?
Great analysis, simply and well delivered. Keep up the great work.
Excellent analysis, insight, and observations about the war from the start until now.
Dr Willey’s voice is so soothing to listen to after a long day.
That was the single best assessment and presentation on the war I've seen since it started. Thank you for your frankness and acknowledgement of need for a bias, people should explain why they have the perspectives they've got, while directly citing their existence, more often.
Was pleasantly surprised by the professional unbiased analysis. Keep it up!
An excellent and balanced presentation, as we might expect from the formidable knowledge embodied in the Tank Museum.
Thank you.
Greetings from Ukraine! Thank you for your unbiased coverage of the war. Overall, thank you for your quality content, I always watch your videos with pleasure.
Better for Ukraine to talk peace than being used as canon fodder by US and NATO. Z is a puppet.
@@realnapster1522 So long as "peace" involves giving Putin what he wants there will be no peace, Ukraine fights for itself.
Wow what a well elaborated and presented explanation of Ukraines supply situation!
Thank you David. Such a concise analysis of what has occurred, what is now, & what maybe is to come. Excellent! And you are looking exceptionally dapper in this video; almost a slight Victorian era style to it?
P.S. I still miss the Garden series from the Covid era - they helped me so much!
David is not a shameless propagandist, and I have a bridge for sale. Wanna buy?
@@Conserpov I think we can all see you are the shameless propagandist Tovarisch.
@@JosephKano
Aww. Hillbilly is coping!
@@Conserpov LOL you're the one whining about it brah. Ooh ooh the nasty tank museum thinks my lil Putler is nasty. Get a room m8.
@@JosephKano
You are hularioulsly pathetic. I bet you believe in Saddam's WMD and Ghost of Kiev
Discussions with experts who know their craft are always refreshing.
Great overview! Happy to feed the algorithm for such a great video!
What an amazing show . Great job on info , delivery and production . Thank you to the host and the techies behind the scenes .
Fabulous work
This is a really excellent video. Very well thought out and presented
Thank you for the calm, informed and humane analysis.
Pro-Ukie propaganda like what he spits here is the exact opposite of all those things, tho.
@@VunderGuy 3 day special military operation
had a latenight talk with my lad´s about the same question, here in germany the other night. with the "tanks are dead, look at ukraine" thing in mind. thanks for your opinion and view on that issues! a weapon-system is only as good as the crew is trained and so on.. let´s see, how they will perform. fingers crossed
Superb, realistic analysis; one of the best I have seen so far.
Thank you David, and thank you too The Tank Museum for this content on the war in Ukraine. The objectivity of the video is exemplary, particularly in quoting the RUSI analysis, a timely reminder that this war will be long and drawn out.
Have you not been paying attention? At 4:06 he says: "...and I would also say, because this is an ongoing war, we are not going to be saying things, that one may give sucker to the Russians or undermine Ukrainian confidence..."
In other words: "This is going to be thoroughly one sided pro-Ukrainian propaganda."
4:10 to 4:28 objectivity? Think critically, man.
@@jamesmandahl444 In a way these comments here are eye-opening. This guy outright admits to being partial towards Ukraine, yet many people commend his objectivity in the comments.
Very sad state of affairs...
@@andreasferenczi7613 no one cares what Russians think except their bots and trolls. Go swill some more vodka Tovarisch.
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Such a fascinating, in-depth, and excellent presentation. Thank you.
Took the words right out've my mouth.
A super interesting video, Well done to the team at Bovington.
Might I also add this museum is a great place if you are interested in tanks and military history and well worth a visit.
great presentation, thank you for the insight your knowledge is appreciated
This informative commentary is just awesome. Thank you.
Loved your analysis and thought. It would be interesting if you could discuss the effects this war will have on the future deployment of tanks in large scale conflicts in the future.
Tolles Video, toller Vortrag. Wäre noch interessant zu hören, wie Panzer genau eingesetzt werden, also im Verbund mit anderen Waffen oder nur als Kanonen. Vieles werden wir wohl erst nach diesem schrecklichen Krieg analysieren können. Sie machen eine tolle Arbeit! Bitte weitermachen! Beste Grüße!!!!
Thank you for the insight into the conflict.
A Very unique style of video for this channel . Much more opinionated than usual but appreciated nonetheless. Felt like a refreshing insight on the current state of affairs regarding real world military issues .
Well put, well researched, sensible and pragmatic vision of a terrible situation we all would much rather prefer did not present itself. Let us hope common sense returns soon. I just don't count on it much...
Cheers.
What a thoughtful, intelligent video, thank you. The ending proclamation, is hopeful.
Amazing content, very important to save this video for the future.
6:55 Imagine the morale boost of just instead being treated as another number on paper, the commander turns to you and says "What do you think?" Having a hand in your own attack plan must make you feel so much more invested in making sure it goes well. Especially if there are other relying on you. One thing I've heard over and over again is the value of Non-Commissioned officers in the Western militaries that the Russian military lacks
Exactly. Even if the troopers have barely any clue what they are doing, just having a voice prevents extreme stupidity attacks, and allows them to feel in their most desperate moments that, "yup I played a part calculating this, but boy are we bad at calculating",rather than, "my comanaders sent me to die" and fight on.
@@dtly50 the most successful attacks historically are where the commanders have taken the time to propagate the plans to all levels of the assault forces, to walk them through it, to engage them in feedback, and to take on board constructive criticism. Then we have the Russian way where they were told is was an exercise and to pack their parade uniforms. How successful was that?
@@JosephKano If the Russian army was less corrupt and more competent in general it may very well have worked with a good amount of deniabillity, due to the sheer difference in the original balance of power. As it was it weakened and confused the already rotting Russian army so much that the surprise attack ran out of steam and failed.
Ukrainians are still cannon fodder for US and UK. They are being fooled.
@@realnapster1522 The only fool's are the people who believe Putin isn't a Fascist
1st class...thx for sharing
David Willey outstanding sir. Thank you.
Thanks again on the follow-up to the previous video. As always, we in Ukraine hope for continued support in our struggle to defend our independence from Russia and are thankful for any help the USA and EU can provide. All Ukrainian civilian stand behind UAF and together we can win
lmao the man said cope cage
Cope cage gaming
That's what the audience knows them as.
Cope Cage is canon now
love this, an unbiased and informed view of the war. The museum comes to us!
Wow, that was probably the best discussion on this war that I've seen.
I could listen to this man speak for hours! Great video and perspective.
You can! There are many videos with him on the channel
Excellent, cautious summery of the situation.
David Willy is a great presenter. Well done the Tank Museum.
Well done. You go about this very well.
Great content man. Always appreciate the informative and entertaining videos. Please don't let the losers and their pitiful comments dissuade you from making more of these productions.
Loved this! More Ukraine analysis please!
Great video, so refreshing to hear someone objectively talk about the current war.
Another informative and balanced video. Many thanks for this.
The boxing analogy was simply beautiful, going to use that to explain movement warfare to others not in the know. Thanks for the video!
A lot of people tend to cling to the idea that Russia must be incredibly stupid or tanks must be absolutely awful as an explanation for why Ukraine has held on this long. I don't think enough credit is given to the Ukrainians who've proven stalwart, innovative and overall superior tactically in how they're fighting this. Much like Poland before WW II, they're managing to punch well above their weight and I think they deserve recognition for it. Of course, Poland did eventually fall but that took a combined effort of Germany and the USSR and they held out for an unbelievable amount of time with no external aid. I think we're seeing a similar thing with Ukraine in how they're managing to hold on. Never underestimate a people defending their homeland.
Brings back the memories of winter war against Finland by the USSR 🙂🤷
"Thank God that they are so f'ing stupid" - Ukrainian trooper last year
Fascinating!!! Excellent and Outstanding Analysis!!!
in '79 we were marching through woods at Ft Knox when the first Abrams came rolling down the dirt road. our Vietnam Veteran drill sergeants in their 20s, 30s suddenly lit up like little boys on Xmas morning. it's a CHRYSLER!
Great presentation! I keep expecting to hear that some of the Tank Museum expert technicians will be helping with the Leopard 1 restorations to speed up their deployment.
Hearing the tank museum say "cope cages" highlights the importance of meme warfare.
An excellent summary presented eloquently by a knowledgeable and unbiased historian.
thank you sir! good analysis
Great video. Really appreciate the insight.
I don't mind more opinion based content when the opinion is so informed and considered
Have you not been paying attention? At 4:06 he says: "...and I would also say, because this is an ongoing war, we are not going to be saying things, that one may give sucker to the Russians or undermine Ukrainian confidence..."
In other words: "This is going to be thoroughly one sided pro-Ukrainian propaganda."
@easystreets70 You're a spammer, why?
@easystreets70 If I recall correctly it was Russia who invaded another country.
@@easystreets70Because we like democratic souvereign countries fighting for their freedom, and hate fascists like hitler and putin. On a deeper level; we have a moral compass, which you seem to lack. Oh, and swapping Zelensky and Bandera together does not make any sense; it is just your ruzzian propaganda.
@easystreets70 If I recall correctly it was Russia who invaded another country
A helpful analysis of on-going combat presented in an understandable manner. I think it would be useful to keep these up as the situation progresses; hopefully it will end as soon as possible in a satisfactory way.
😂 ok
Much more than tank chat, very interesting analysis, great video, thank you
Bravo! Glad I tripped across ya
Fantastic content!
Really appreciate you providing insights and a more balanced view of what's going on in Ukraine. It's easy to see the drone footage and listen to taking heads go on about Russian conscript morale and forget this is a finely balanced war. Thanks for keeping us informed and thinking critically.
"Russian conscript morale"
That there alone should tell you ALL you need to know.
Because there ARE NO RUSSIAN CONSCRIPTS IN UKRAINE. None, zero, null.
"and forget this is a finely balanced war"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Almost exactly a year ago now, i commented that Russia had won the war. Because that was bloody obvious to anyone bothering to look at unbiased information.
Russia spent most of the war up until November outnumbered 3 to 1 or 2 to 1.
And yet, even during their daring maneuverings in the first 2 months of the war, there was not even a single week that i could find any evidence that their advantage in killratio was ever worse than 3 to 1 in Russia's advantage.
Right now, Russian KIAs are probably somewhere around 10 to 14 thousand.
Ukraine KIAs are probably somewhere between 300 and 500 thousand.
Russian POWs are less than 400, and that includes the ones tortured to death and videos of the deeds proudly uploaded online.
While the number of Ukranians taken POWs amount to around 30 thousand.
Russia is confirmed to have lost less than 30 aircraft, total number is probably less than 40. Ever since July, they fly 100-400 missions per day. On average, 0-2 missionkilled or lost aircraft per week.
Ukraine is confirmed to have lost over 300, total number is very uncertain but probably over 400. Since May, they fly 0-5 missions per day and usually take 50-100% losses whenever they try to fly.
Ukraine used to fire 4-6 thousand artillery per day. Now, they're running out, so closer to 3 thousand most days probably.
Russia fires around 20 thousand artillery per day. Some days, much more, topping out close to 70 thousand at one point last summer.
In comparison, USA used around 60 thousand TOTAL during its whole invasion of Iraq in the 90s.
Russia has fired more SAMs than all of Nato together have ever used, maybe even more than all together have ever built.
Russia has used more cruise missiles per month than Nato have used in any single conflict. And may in total have used more than USA has ever built.
And Russia is still stocking up on its best weapons, in case the psychopaths in Washingon have Nato get involved directly.
In the last year, they have also nearly double the number of Su-57s in active service, possibly more if their upgrading of prototypes to serial production versions have been completed.
They delivered 300 brand new T-90s, latest model, in January, after they ramped up massproduction sometime in June last year, and hereafter they expect to produce up to around a thousand per year.
How exactly is that "finely balanced"?
Russia attacked with less than 1/3 of the numbers of troops of Ukraine, against the largest set of fortifications since the Maginot line and Ukraine had since 2014 been equipped with over 10 years worth of production of pretty much everything Nato could provide, most of which was used up or destroyed during the first 3 months. And yet Russia today achieves 10 to 1 killratios in their favor almost casually.
During the Kherson offensive, that went up to something between 100-200 to 1. 55 thousand troops attacking 15 thousand, 12 thousand KIA were COUNTED as being left on the battlefields by the Ukrainians. Total number of KIAs probably 2-3 times that and the entire 55 thousand strong force essentially stopped existing after the "offensive".
While Russian losses amounted to a few dozen.
BALANCED?
@@DIREWOLFx75 nobody cares about your ridiculous wall of text, enjoy being on the losing side :D
@@Roger__Wilco LOSING side? Are you mentally deficient?
Oh wait, i live in the EU so yeah, i guess i am on the losing side regardless how i would prefer not to be part of supporting nassiz of Ukraine and their massmurdering on the orders of Washington.
But i guess you enjoy doing the Sieg heil and murdering people because they're the wrong sort...
@@DIREWOLFx75 You sound way to emotional in your gish gallops there to bother responding with anything beyond "lol"
@@DIREWOLFx75 lol
Great comments on this topic!
Thank you for this analysis; so informative.
Simply an OUTSTANDING overview of the Ukraine conflict. Keep up the great work. 👍
Their work is very mediocre and one-sided.
@@lama9940 LoL "one-sided", meanwhile David: The Russians actually did very well in some battles and underestimating them is dangerous.
@@Deathadder90 I mean that he don't tell about a huge number of problems in the Ukrainian army and exaggerates some of the problems in the Russian.
@@lama9940 He already mentioned why he wouldn't talk about too much bad stuff for the Ukrainians in the beginning. And I don't think he exaggerates too much about the Russians.
@@Deathadder90 Agree, but it's so difficult to be objective when you're being shelled by the Ukrainian army every day.
One thing that isn't discussed often enough about the initial stage of the war is that the Russians started the war at pretty much the single worst time of the year, almost down to the day. The spring mud season forced the Russians to use their armor only on the roads, which meant that they couldn't run their vehicles in the plowed fields without bogging them down within a few yards. So it was almost impossible to use proper overwatch tactics and flanking attacks, which would have gone a long ways towards neutralizing the Ukranian anti armor teams. Even with proper training, the conditions essentially cancelled out that training.
This is a point that I can't get over and often bring up with friends. Russia chose to attack! They should have had a foolproof plan.
Excellent commentary. Thank you. Funny that I was under the impression tanks were just museum pieces!!!
Fact based, objective presentation. Well done (as usual). Reminders of the human cost of this unjust war caused by Russia's (Putin's) ego are much needed.
We hope the NATO countries, especially the US, will continue to generously provide for and support Ukraine.
My thoughts is that the internet has made it, a famed museum has used the term "cope cage" in a serious context and it's amazing
I'm not a tank enthusiast or warfare expert but I appreciate your considered material, which helps me understand what's going on in Ukraine
Perfect thank you!
Good video , informative to many of us who dont know about Tanks or such likes
Wish the Ukraine all the best from Britain .
Cant wait to see that on a museum placard in a decades time
This example is fitted with a makeshift "Cope Cage" as it became known to outside observers.
The intention of the device is to mitigate the impact of top attack missiles by interrupting the jet of a shaped charge warhead.
Cope cage was derived from the early 2020s internet slang term "copium" or Lying to yourself in order to cope with something.
In this context it largely derided the crews, who were seen to be hastily cobbling together defensive devices to improve morale in the face of greater than expected losses . Further it spoke to the pervading sense of vulnerability that tanks were perceived to have at the time, against modern anti tank weapons and the expected lack of effectiveness of these constructions.
While these devices may have experienced some success as spaced armour, their hasty, non uniform construction, as well as the variety of anti tank weapons deployed against them will have led to mixed results in the field.
That's... a well balanced plaque that details the situation very well.
@@JosephKano Only thing I'd question is the "modern anti tank weapons" part. Stingers are pretty old tech at this point.
@@Saufs0ldat you mean javelin?
and javelins aren't really that old as far as weapons go, though I suppose they are old compared to some other infantry portable weapons. But the way I see it they were just ahead of their time then.
@@lordcirrhosisofliver Yeah, sorry. Javelins are not state of the art, especially compared to stuff like NLAWs and they're certainly something that Russia has known about for a very long time.
@@Saufs0ldat NLAW is newer then javelin, but they are far worse at longer ranges.