'Absolute chaos': CNN sports analyst reacts to Kamila Valieva ruling
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has decided that Russian figure skater Kamila Valieva will be allowed to continue competing at the Beijing Games. CNN's Sports Analyst Christine Brennan breaks down what the ruling means for the Russian athlete. #CNN #News
I can understand her not getting a medal, but for this to not allow anyone else not to get a medal is ridiculous.
What's not been mentioned is that her biggest rivals for the medals are also her Russian teammates who train under the same coach. Its very likely the other 2 also dope, so having no medal ceremony for all of them is a bit of karmic justice.
I am afraid that IOC will , after 5 months, simply give medals to Russians.
@@channelsold3236
So chief am I right you call urself A CRIMINAL cuz haven’t you topped the allowed speed on a highway even once???🤗
@@tinavino1575
Is it SO BAD to give medals to Russians whose women figure skaters are really the best?
I really don’t think people care about the Olympics or CNN MSNBC anymore. They are irrelevant. 👎🔥👎👎
Disaster. My heart breaks for the athletes who play by the rules, and for a 15 year old who was supposed to be guided and protected by trustworthy adults, and was not.
The med can also help in anxiety and blood pressure/ heart rate issues, as well as costochondritis. This is no different than someone taking allegra before running in a field of grass. There's literally no other pharmaceutical available for early menstruation aged girls. Theyre defaming a TEENAGER. No different than the right pulling Greta down every two seconds..
@@frankied.roosevelt6232 If you require meds that are banned by doping authorities, don't participate in the Olympics.
@@frankied.roosevelt6232 it also helps with balance , equilibrium and endurance which would all be very helpful , useful for this sport , especially since she is the first "woman" to have landed a quad , perhaps because of the medications effects on balance and equilibrium.
They should have been disqualified , because of the doping and because Russia "slow walked" the test results .
@@shari9721 so does caffeine
@@nikitaglushkov8473 why is that med banned but not beta blockers? Right. Men rely more on beta blockers and women this med.
Why are the other athletes being punished by not being able to have a medal ceremony? She just shouldn’t be allowed to participate. Wtf
Other athletes are already being punished by allowing her to compete. This is a huge middle finger to every skater who follow the rules
Probably because it’s very likely the other two podium spots will go to Trusova and Scherbakova and thus Russia will have a clean sweep of the medals, and because of the current controversy and the already instated ban of Russia from the Olympics, in addition to the fact that the above listed Russian skaters along with the Valiyeva are all coached by Eteri, I’m guessing the IOC is doing what they can to exact some sort of punishment on Russia.
To begin with, understand the essence of the issue before accusing the Russian figure skater! The samples were taken on December 25, and only on February 8 they were "unexpectedly" made public! Firstly, we are talking about a drug that stimulates the heart muscle, and secondly, why did they deliberately delay the publication of the facts of the discovery of a certain substance in Valieva's blood? thirdly, even if we assume that it was "real doping", he could not influence the results of the Olympics in any way! All this looks like a big provocation, because the Americans are in second place (who could get a gold medal if Russia were stripped of medals), and the whole world knows that the United States is a big world adventurer...
This is not a punishment. Rather an inconvenience/compromise to respect Kamila's right of defense. First she has to fight for her medal, and then the lawyers will do.
@@alexxela9502 If the results had not been slow walked, this girl would not have qualified to be on the roster. She was drugged to stimulate her training, and therefore give her an advantage. Then, they slow walked the results to enable her to get on the team. She would have not qualified for the team had the results come back as they should have, on time. And we would not be having this conversation because she would not even be here. Her presence in these games is an affront to all athletes that play by the rules.
She is competing in the "Women's" category, that means she is competing as an adult. That is what a woman is, and adult. If she is going to get a pass because of being a child then compete in the Juniors, not in the Women's category.
Children should not be a part of any adult competition. Mainly because of the risk of exploitation and abuse by the adults around them.
People under 18 years old should stay in junior competitions im my opinion.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
@@ЕнотДотокин Shut up! You're sounding like a broken record. Of course you would defend your athlete even if she was doping in secret. Nobody is trusting the words from Russians right now especially with the handling of Ukraine. Give it a rest, Russian bot!
@@kguerr197 Have you actually read CAS ruling and know the timeline of the incident? Didn't think so - so who's the bot?
This is the end of the Olympics as we know/knew it. So sad...
Just think the female black athlete in the summer Olympics, who was suspended for a month because of weed. She smoked the weed to help her cope with the death of her mother.
@@blackstarafro2 I agree completely, it's disgusting
@@doyoulovehimloretta1607 there should be 2 Olympics then. One where everyone is tested, and another one with no testing, and actual cheaters can compete with each other. just like they have the Paralympics. So this cheating Russian athlete can compete in the Olympics if the do not use russia, but instead the Russian Olympic team banner. I am not buying the excuse that there was a mixup with her prescription and her grandfather’s heart medicine. The bottlers will have her name and her grandfather’s name on different bottles. Or the new excuse of she drank from a cup he drank from. Dafuq? Heart medicine is a pill that you chase with water. It is not sugar that you dilute in water or coffee. I believe because the Olympic commission has done this. Nobody should be tested for the next 20 years. Let everyone cheat. At this point you have to. Return everyone who cheated medals back. Is the Olympic commission that afraid of Russia and China? Not one person from China or Russia at the Olympics is even outraged. You would even think Donald trump and his January 6th maga terrorist would be angry and taking the streets. Where is their patriotism?
@@blackstarafro2 no, she broke the rules and paid the price.
And the worst part is that she’s going around trying to play the race card. Typical racebaiter that wants nothing but attention and to be the victim.
@@gavindy_Sv2
What do you call it when there's one rule for the white girl and a different rule for the black girl?
The Olympics are a joke. If you fail a drug test you don’t get to compete. End of story. This is ridiculous.
Unless you are white …. Duh
this is someone's future , have a little sympathy, the case is still open by the way
@@nargesdeypir4579 no one forced her to do drugs…
@@lcukei last i checked Simone Biles is Black. BLM
@@lcukei ... It's Russia. Of course they did.
Yet they didnt let Richardson run because of weed. That isnt even a performance enhancing drug. So stupid.
If it’s on the list, you can’t take it. Too bad. Some people advocate removing all restrictions on PEDs. One problem is that there will be long term detrimental effects on the athlete’s health.
@@Paul__108__ all im saying is if u keep 1 athlete out for a banned substance then u shouldnt allow another. Keep the rules across the board.
@Scott Free richards smoked some weed right after her mom died. It was right before a Olympic qualifying race. They kept her from rans all together. This girl is still allowed to compete but if she medals they will cancel the medaling ceremony for this event. Which hurts the other medaling competitors from having that moment of glory for medaling at the Olympics. She should be able to compete at all.
@@kirio1038 Of course. Most people here (except the Russian trolls) share that opinion.
IOC had the guts to ban South Africa from Olympic competition until they did away with apartheid, but they are cowards when dealing with Russia and state sponsored doping. Russia should have been banned from Olympic competition after 2014 . Who the hell is running the IOC these days?
Why can kids compete with adults with different rules. If your competing on a world stage why have different rules for different people.
То есть вас не волновало это в «Макси Гербер. В 1936 году она вместе со своим партнером Эрнстом Байером стала олимпийской чемпионкой в парном катании.» Юлия Липницкая , Алина Загитова им всем было по 15
всё было нормально ???? А сейчас что не устраивает????
I'm so tired of hearing about her age and because of that she is protected! She is competing against adults. Same rules need to apply to ALL ATHLETES!!
It's 2022. Nothing makes sense anymore.
Мы тоже устали слушать о том что у вашей гимнастки ,когда то , была психологическая травма и потому ей можно есть запрещённые препараты вёдрами.
@@user-il6mi6rz1r once again, building straw men in order to further your country’s ambitions. Tell your bot to stay home.
@@cindytartt4048 сила в Правде но вам эгого не понять.
The Russian trolls on here are hilarious
The most pathetic part is taking take the medal ceremonies from all the other winners-that is a boneheaded decision
That has nothing to do with this
Imagine hustling your entire life to win an event for a medal you are not going to receive.
Romanian here, there is a big difference in Raducanu case. She was clearly doping, she later said it herself and Mucinex is a doping drug. However in this case the results were actually not positive, but false positive because the drug she used is not really a doping drug , it gets flushed in 2 days and doesn't provide benefits after that. So unless she took it the day she competes, the drug she took is absolutely useless. People should look more at the science in this and based their decisions on that rather than politics. There is high controversy about Trimetazidine and other drugs that "could" have doping effect but are prescribed because of heart conditions. The point is, there needs to be serious discussion about what are doping drugs and what are not. Since Trimetazidine can't provide any benefits on the long term and it was used for a medical condition the comittie was right to allow her to practice. You can view more about it on Reuters here : ua-cam.com/video/N5XH19REqWs/v-deo.html
@@bobababy6089 The decision on the medal is not final , it's mostly media hype that is driving this because of the political context
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
'its not okay to dope your adult athletes..
But acceptable to dope your child athletes'
Makes sense.. 🙄
The ROC knew they would get away with it because she's under age. No surprise here. Best thing the ISU can do is raise the age so that there are no minors competing. She is a beautiful skater, but her jumps are under rotated, she's almost forward when she leaves the ice and the judges still give her + GOE's. She would still win without the extra points but i would be closer
They Russian what you expect, no morality at all.
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@@shelleyblandford4907 you can send a protest note to tue judges.. or get your butt on ice showing us and her how to do better.
@@hapo153 ua-cam.com/video/ngiibXj_6BE/v-deo.html
“If you can’t trust what you’re watching, why watch.” Well said.
And the reason I don't watch. the whole thing is rigged
probably another one of the reasons that viewership is down
@@spiceyhotpot If you are referring to CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. Nielson ratings, sure. However people who are capable of adapting are watching online because when you are watching online what schedule you are obliged to adhere to and/or what shifts you are required to work are irrelevant.
Online viewership of so-called "liberal" (real world moderate) media is several times that of conservative media.
@@shawnhartmann4581 it's actually down from 23M to only 12 million. Dont make this a republican vs democrats. statistics dont lie
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So if she wins everyone loses their medals? How is that fair.
No one is going to lose her medal, well,except maybe Valieva. The medalists will just receive their medals at a later date once Valieva's case is settled.
that's not what they said. Pay more attention.
Other strong medal candidates are other Russians, under Valieva's coach. Russia shouldn't have been given the second chance.
USA. s ucks
They said no medal ceremony, not that no one would get a medal. There's a huge difference.
I don't think it's fair if she wins that the person who won silver & bronze won't get their medals at an Olympic medal ceremony just because Valieva is a dirty athlete. Smh
This is so wrong. ln 2018 a russian bobsled athlete tested positive for the same drug and was instantly disqualified. There should be NO difference in treatment. And it is not fair to every other skater who tests clean. The Russian federation will NEVER stop doping if there are no real punishments. l feel sorry for the girl, but no way she should be allowed to compete.
Российская бобслеистка доказала в суде, что препарат был в БАДе, что производители не указали его в составе. Через 2 месяца ее допустили к соревнованиям. Прежде, чем давать комментарии, проверьте все источники.
Russia is responsible. The test is their responsibility. She does NOT skate. Not fair to the others to have no medal ceremony.
the rest are shit , she is far better skater
When a minor is competing at international level with all ages, should follow the same rules like others, if the Russian skater violated the rules, she should be disqualified to compete. Other athletes have been disqualified for the same medication. It is unfair for all the athletes and furthermore, holding the ceremony of those that played fair is even worst.
Cheating is not acceptable no matter who did it. There is no excuse.
You're making sense. Be careful
Minors under the selfish adults who are not looking out for thier best interests are why they shouldn't be competing at all. No one is protecting them. The Olympics are not for children.
You're making too much sense. Do you also believe girls don't become women on their 18th birthday?
I wonder what you think about the positive doping of American Kristen Shaldybin in 2016 at the games in Rio. No sanctions were applied against her and she was able to perform as usual.
@@buschg7106 I know you’re right, because honesty will draw attention to you. Being honest nowadays has become subjective!
Yuna Kim said via her Instagram today ; "Athlete who violates doping cannot compete in the game. This principle must be observed without exception. All players' efforts and dreams are equally precious."
Poor Yuna Kim, another one who knows that no one talks about her anymore, a skater who wouldn't even have a place on Russia's C team. Valieva is by far the best skater in history.
@@inaciofeijo5047 You mean a doped up Valieva. Who knows how she would perform on a level playing field.
@@inaciofeijo5047 as long as she's cheating
@Inácio Feijó
Thank you for showing us again your true charater, Valieva. Or her admirer. Or both.
Except for when Americans do it right ?
You mean a Russian athlete tested positive for a banned substance. This has never happened before. I am shocked. 🤣🤣
Who could have seen that coming 6000 miles away?
@Aleksandr Ju
☝Putin troll identified!!
@Aleksandr Ju Lance Armstrong was how old when he made up his own mind as an adult to cheat. Who is pulling the strings for a Russian national competitor? Russians cheat as a country, Americans cheat because they are greedy individualists.
American clean athletes have never been a thing, USADA is an organization used to prompt american cheaters at every level of sport!
Coming from an American I find it ironic you're talking about Russia. You're the kings of steroids. You just have all the committees in your back pocket and are just better at getting away with it.
Thomas Bach's remarks are the pinnacle of hypocrisy.
In this season, Kamila's doping test results were clean at four international competitions,
but only the test for the Russian national competition showed polluted result.
Therefore, this case required a thorough investigation and verification, but there was not enough time.
As CAS rejected IOC's indictment to ban Kamila's participation in individual competition,
the IOC should have announced that IOC would normally award medals for the results of the game,
but that medal and record could be deprived if Kamila did intentional doping.
The IOC's shocking announcement "If Kamila stands on podium, medal award ceremony would be canceled" must have acted as tons of pressure on Kamila,
And this IOC's Threat made her step down from the podium by herself.
As a result, the IOC brutally threatened a young girl under the age of 16 to take the bronze medal from Russia and give it to Japan.
Furthermore this ultimately made it impossible to watch Kamila's performance in full of heavenly and mysterious beauty, which all figure fans around the world wanted to see.
The IOC should take the greatest responsibility for this!
Why is Russia still allowed to compete in global sports? I have never gotten the point of the calling them "R.O.C" like it's still Russia🥴😂😂
Russia, there is a reason the athletes of Russia can’t perform under the banner of the Russian flag
@@neodro4831 You do realize you are advocating murder, which I am sure is against the UA-cam TOS.
Cause it's a witch hunt and propaganda if you actually know details of the story. The USA is just better at hiding it and bribing commitees to stay quiet
@@jsgr5382 lol, she failed the drug test. 🤣
US is more focus on this case, than on their actual athletes that won today, this tell you the narrative that they want you to hear, the poor american Bobsleigh woman that won gold today doesnt even get one second of been mention on this disinformation news network....
They shouldn't be allowed to compete at all. They need an actual ban for a while and not a slap on the wrist
This girl will always have a stain on her name, no matter how good of a skater she is
No sympathy for Valieva. Frankly we all , including Valieva herself, have known it for years since Sochi. They simply didn't get caught thanks to KGB class skills with drugs.
Well, suddenly so many Russian girls have keot doing so many impossible jumps which even MALE Russian skaters can't do so often.
@@tinavino1575 honestly I think we should have sympathy but that sympathy shouldn’t cloud anyone’s judgement. She is a great skater and I don’t know many kids who wouldn’t trust their coaches or parents to lead them in the right direction. We should sympathize for her because she was a victim in this too
@@tinavino1575
Tina try reed detectives stories less than 3 books a night, you’ve got a maniacal syndrome and kgb-phobia for that reason.
Commies are coming!!!
True name of Valieva is Spider-Man - but with Putin’s DNA. THATS WHY she makes a quad so easy. Sleep well dear!
She IS an extremely talented skater. Such soulful grace and poise! A gift to humanity.
@@tinavino1575 i love how cnn is wanting us to feel sorry for this girl. The narrative they like to spin.
Wow completely ridiculous. She possibly did something wrong so they punish anyone competing in the same event??? How is that fair to anyone else and the years of work?
@@GrannyGetYerFun How drugs can improve jumping?
@@user-mi1lw6gf1d ive heard that the drug she tested positive for was a heart medication. Supposedly it improves oxygen intake etc. It helps with endurance. Jumping takes alot of energy and it is tiresome on the legs. Especially after a certain amount of time skating, that is why jumps in the latter half of the program are scored higher than those jumped in the beginning of the performance. She may have an unfair advantage in this regard, with increased endurance.
@@Hifive91 It's more about anti-Vertigo and fluid balance than endurance, TMZ increase blood float to your heart, which increase the blood pumping to your brain, which mean you would have enough supply of blood in your brain during your performance, which in layman term, you will less likely to feel dizzy from turning around and around and around.........But yeah, regardless that still give her edge over everybody.
@@user-mi1lw6gf1d Russians can have their own Olympics.
@@user-mi1lw6gf1d cut that noise already
People are outraged over Kamila Valieva but they're not outraged over transwoman having an unfair advantage over biological women (there are obvious differences between males and females). Not to mention the hormone doping in order to 'qualify' as a 'woman' which is not only an insult but another unfair advantage (they get to dope but no one else does). The level of hypocrisy in sports is unbelievable.
Hate to break it to you, but Valieva is trans too. Js
Agreed. The tragedy isn't using a heart drug during training. The 🎭 is hormonal body transformation to allow males to compete in the lower-performing female tier
@@feistyize "Valieva is trans too"
No. Valieva is super female
@@GK-op4oc don't make me laugh.
This girl is infinitely talented. It sickens me that someone, somewhere is taking advantage of that for the purposes of their own benefit.
Спасибо за добрые слова в адрес Камилы. Она действительно выдающийся талант.
That's pretty much the definition of the Olympics. They've been a farce for a long time, and this year is even worse than anything in the past considering where it's being hosted and under what conditions.
Obviously she’s not infinitely talented if she’s only doing the tricks because the drugs are allowing her to. It’s not her fault but she def ain’t that good
She did learn what the occident is about!
@@user-ft5wj1go6e blablabla...
This is horrible for the other athletes. Russia needs to be banned from future Olympics.
Russians. Russia *is* already banned.
No one cares. I really don’t think people watch the Olympics or CNN MSNBC anymore. They are irrelevant. 👎🔥👎👎
That's why Russian team walked in Olympic Opening ceremony without Russian flags, because Russia was banned.
@@hippocreation Oh, but they did wear the Russian flag on their jackets. Never got penalized for it, either.
@Mike C
Mike Good morning! ☕️
Mike, keep in mind.
The Russian Olympic Athletes will always:
💊💉CHEAT💉💊!
They did it Before, they’re doing it NOW, and they WILL Continue AGAIN.
Yet, They Act Innocent! 🙄GFTO……
It doesn’t matter what Age bracket they’re in or who they are Individually, Russia Olympic Athletes
are ALWAYS KNOWN TO
💊💉CHEAT💉💊!
#ItsATRUEFact
The fact that the Olympics takes place in countries which win the bidding, despite human rights abuses, makes the meaning of the organization pointless.
And the list of countries that don't have human rights violations or any such crimes is how long?
If she wins she can't get a medal. Why allow her to compete ! 🤷🏽♂️
she can still get her medal. It just won't be shown in public.
@@InspireMe819 What happen to the days where if you tested positive for a banned substance you were automatically disqualified from the Olympic games?
@@InspireMe819 how all politics stupid...where is logic ?
@@MacDaddy50 that doesnt work for the russians. I thought everyone should have learned this by now.
That ruling is so damn stupid
She was tested clean just before the Olympics, before EC. And all the other times before that 25 december test. Obviously US media prefers to dish it this way, without saying all the other details, that the substance was in micro quantities, that it does not affect sports results, etc. So they insist that all these poor other athletes are somehow disadvantaged. I think they just can't live with the fact that russian ladies figure skaters are the best now.
Well said. 100%. As every ice skater has pointed out, there isn't a drug in the world that can enable you to perform a quad, but those 3 Russians (the Quad Squad) are SO far technically above the rest of the field that it's embarrassing. Hell, most of the men can't perform quads.
the decisions affecting her acceptability in the current competition weren't taken by the US media. She should not have been allowed to compete because of prior doping period - it is a rule that has existed from before this incident and that is constantly being flaunted by the RU teams and the IOC has been bending in all sorts of ways to not fully enforce because - "Russia". As for the quantity of banned substances and whether it affects performance - again this is an issue related to the IOC and its rules - where it draws the line; ain't got nothing with the media - US or otherwise, or our non-informed youtube opinions.
Her age matters in terms of her capacity to give informed consent and full understanding of consequences. As female and at that age and in that national environment I doubt there's much of either. She's clearly talented and wants to compete; can't imagine the pressures she's been under to navigate the politics of all this when all she wants most likely is to skate and be the best at this sport. She is definitely a victim to some extent of where she was born, but so are most of us
@@leahtigers771 The decisions weren't made by the US media, but, the US media has done their utmost to try and COMPLETELY vilify and destroy this girl since Feb 8th, PURELY because she is Russian !!
Pardon my French, but the behaviour of the media, commentators and journalists alike has been absolutely fucking shameful !!
Of course, you are right.
@@leahtigers771 thank you for your support🤗
This is the craziest ruling I've ever heard of. The rule should be simple, if a person cheats, they get disqualified, and everyone who didn't cheat competes. If you want to allow her to skate, and even to get an unofficial score for it, fine. Then later if it turns out that the test was wrong, or whatever, fine, send her a gold medal.
why they giving russia a break? it stinks.
Well, this is exactly what the CAS is doing tho.
Notice that this is not about her doping, this is about her eligibility on the later portion of the game, an investigation is going to be carry out as to the circumstance of her positive test.
If she win here today (the event is today) she may have to hand back to medal if the later investigation into her positive test suggest she dope. And not being spike or the lab made a mistake. But if it turned out she did not dope, she got to keep her medal.
The only thing I am concern with is the doping investigation is not going to be carried out by WADA. but RUSADA.... That is my only concern IMO.
she didnt cheat , you know nothing
@@brain8484 Doping is cheating. Whether she did it or not doesn't matter. It's cheating. So disqualify her and let everyone else compete. Why are we making special rules for Russia?
There really isn't enough evidence
What difference does her age matter? Her coaches/doctors gave her a banned drug; she should be OUT; disqualified. Let her parents/guardians address the drug with her coaches/doctors and let them face sanctions for cheating. Oh yeah, they are Russians.
You don’t make it Bobby - she SHOULD HAVE HAD TO BE OUT - but due to the mistake (or corruption????) of the anti-doping committee - she isn’t.
So prior to making decision on her - it shall hear the decision on the Committee
@@GrannyGetYerFun .....I get what you're saying, but at the end of the day, she does have an unfair advantage over her competitors and whether or not she knew about the drug or under age should make no difference. She should not be able to compete and possibly win. The fact that they are still allowing her to compete, but not giving her a medal if she win makes this whole thing that much more foolish.
These young athletes start getting tested years before they get to this stage. If she is testing positive, she and her coaches are very aware and they should be banned from competing.
At least those overseeing her training, no need to let her know.
It is not as you suppose. Your logic is not correct. At least if you have gone through High School you will have studied Human Rights declared in the UN. Basic article 10 and 11, and the Declaration of Children's Rights. Where it says that all children must be protected and that a child is anyone who is under 16 years of age. Kamila in the test at the European Games 2022 was negative. In the test before and after the Team Games in Beijing 2022 she tested negative. The positive anti-doping problem occurred in a local game in her country, the test was carried out on December 25, 2021 and the delivery to the laboratory in Stockholm in Sweden is in the indicated time. The answer must arrive from 7 to 10 days and I arrive 45 days later in the middle of the Olympics. Therefore there was no falsification of information in the declaration to the Olympics. And in her participation she did it clean, without the influence of any drug. You can't treat a child athlete like an adult. The child is protected because the UN mandates it in the Declaration of the Rights of the Child. The most serious crime is the abuse they have done against a child. Adults who in their ambition used an innocent child like Kamila. Let's be fair and defend the child, always.
@@luissabino9781 I understand where you're coming from and ideally it should be so. But these archaic laws must be adjusted to the changing life styles
aided by advancement in IT SNS and awareness of children unlike when
the law was written.
Children have been competing in all athletic venues and skating is one that's glaring more bc of Eteri girls in past 3 Olympics and no one knew of
these girls till just before the Games. What do you think ?
I believe the age should be raised to 16 asap so that individuals are held
accountable for any doping violation. Oh and to develop fast result test
systems. Don't let RUSADA involved in other words BANN them.
@@luissabino9781 in my opinion, she's competing in the Women's Olympics figure skating. Women's. Not Junior Olympics. She needs to be treated like an adult, or stay with the Junior Olympics.
But Sha'Carri can't run.... this is bs. I'm boycotting the next Olympics too.
Heart meds for actually having a heart condition vs hitting bongs. What's your problem exactly?
The girl gets no medal🤣🤣 whats the point. You can't make an argument for kush. You can make an argument for the meds she took. It's not a black or white thing. U snow flakes are annoying.
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If anything marijuana isn't going to make you perform better. The logic is flawed here.
@@exhainca the drug is on the banned list. If she took the drug for a medical condition, her coaches honestly seem incompetent for not getting it cleared beforehand. Rules are rules, i do feel bad for her though, she really has talent, the adults around her failed her. Plus this drug isnt meant to be taken by kids, it could actually be harmful to her, so there’s that.
This girl has so much talent, she doesn't need help with drugs to win skating competitions. By allowing this to happen, the ROC did Kamila, and ultimately themselves, a huge disservice. I feel sorry for her, but not for those cheating Russian coaches. I also think the Olympic Committee is afraid of Russia and Putin, and that fear played a part in their decision to let her skate even though she tested positive for drugs.
she was talent cuz she used drugs
wait until gender males can compete, summer olypics will be sad.
micro-doze means it could be unintentional. Don't blame until proved
@@pizza_lovers Это смешно,она великолепная спортсменка, и никакие наркотики не употребляла
Вам в новостях показывают ерунду, причём полную
Нет не одной положительно допинг пробы на других соревнованиях мирового уровня; но именно на олимпиаде кто то нашёл и то не сразу а через почти два месяца, вам не кажется это странным.
Вы хотите что бы выигрывали ваши спортсменки но они объективно плохо катаются.13 место после короткой программы это вообще не результат. Если бы даже небыли Камиллы на этих соревнованиях то первое место всё равно бы было у России! Ни Аня Щербакова ни Саша Трусова не дали бы вам такой возможности. Вы видимо совершенно не разбираетесь в этом виде спорта.
Вам не кажется что то что вам передают по новостям полная чушь
У этого тренерского штаба не одна спортсменка а три,и почему тогда они только одну кормят допингом???????
У этого же тренера выступали две другие спортсменки на предыдущей Олимпиадой с чистым допингом
У этого же тренера выступала дочь на этой олимпиаде и почему для лучшего результата она не кормина её допингом?
У этого же тренера на этой олимпиаде выступала пара и почему их она не кормила допингом?
По-моему вывод очевиден допинг проба это чушь, просто русских спортсменок хотят задвинуть как и на прошлогодней олимпиаде нашу спортсменку по художественной гимнастике, вот и все ……
Не нужно верить в эту чушь в новостях!
Christine, it’s Val-i-e-va. I know you hate the Russians but at least learn to pronounce her name correctly. And, Christine, she IS 15, sorry it’s inconvenient and you think it’s ridiculous. As an American, am much more disgusted with the anti-Russian propaganda and sentiment in my country over the trace amount of a heart medication found in December. I stand with Kamila. ❤️💜💙
The way she talks, she is of the opinion that NO American athlete has EVER failed a test in the entire history of sport. F'kin delusional.
100%
Thank you so much. I just found out that at the Tokyo Olympics last year, a lot of American dropouts were disqualified due to doping problems. In Russia, the reaction to this topic was neutral. So what happened, so what? And here everyone is pouring shit on Russia. In Russia, they have long learned not to watch the news, stupid propaganda, and they try to look for information before believing someone when it comes to news
How sad for the other legitimate winners.
This is so disturbing allowing her to play ruins the spirit of the games.
Likely because she didn't know. But doping rules are there for a reason - she should not be allow to perform.
what about Simone Biles ?
All of the other skaters should refuse to skate. What is the point of doing everything right and busting your butt when Russia is going to cheat? They should stand down and refuse to compete. NBC would have to return ad buys for the competition and would then demand change from the IOC. Imagine the change that could create.
You mean Russia continues to cheat as they have historically cheated.
The "banned" med can also help in anxiety and blood pressure/ heart rate issues, as well as costochondritis. This is no different than someone taking allegra before running in a field of grass. There's literally no other pharmaceutical available for early menstruation aged girls. Stop. You are defaming a TEENAGER.
@@marcirobins5144 russia is a trailer park with a nuclear triad that they can't maintain. *see chernobyl*
@@frankied.roosevelt6232 has it been proven that Valieva had any of those conditions - where is the prescription?
@@frankied.roosevelt6232 plain and simple no cheating allowed!
Maybe there should be an unlimited Olympics, and let that group have as much doping as they want .and then we can see the real damage that can be done to the human body ,for the sake of winning.
Other athletes were suspended because their outfits were deemed illegal, but to fail a drug test and continue to compete is so unfair to ALL Olympic athletes and participating countries!
Hypocrisy by any other name.
Shame on the Olympic Committee.
What message does it send other cheats?
What I don’t understand is why they even have WADA in the first place if they’re not in charge of what happens to the athletes at the Olympic Games if they test positive. Why allow the country of the athlete decide? It’s a WORLD competition. Shouldn’t the WORLD anti-doping agency have the power to say “no you’re going home”?
They didn't allow shacari Richardson to run because she smoked a little weed yet this one was straight dopeing and is allowed to play maybe win against others who played by the rules!
This!
doesn't matter what the banned substance is, neither should be allowed
She didn't run because she is an adult who willingly smoked a joint and was given a result in the 20 day period. Kamila is a minor who probably didn't have a clue what she was being given (if anything at all) and whose 45 day turnaround was such a joke that even Travis Tygart called it incredibly suspicious.
Regardless of whether she knew it was in her system or not, she shouldn’t be allowed to compete IMO. It’s unfair to the other participants and is not a harsh enough punishment to the ROC.
What a mess. An absolute disaster. She did not dope herself, yeah? What the heck, others cannot get their medals, either?
Russia is banned from the Olympics.
The test was taken on December 25 in Russia. But for unknown reasons, urine analysis was carried out in Stockholm (Sweden), and the result of this test was made public a month and a half later, for some reason immediately AFTER the athlete's victory at the Olympics. The amount of Trimetazidine was microscopically small. ALL previous and ALL subsequent tests were "clean". The International Court of Arbitration for Sport acquitted the athlete. Are there any other questions?
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
@@JavierFernandez01 For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
Dont bother, other medals will be russian as well.
*The moral cowardice on display is absolutely breathtaking!*
*There is NO point of even watching the competition if cheating is allowed. State sponsored child abuse…* 🤦🏻♀️
You mean like when Lance Armstrong won 10 tour of France right?? hypocrite
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oh, she was tested positive and is guilty.. yeah? If justice were that simple, I would be ashamed
@@nikbau7642 He was a kid? Anyway, he got punished...so what's your point? Lance did it so can she? Who is hypocrite here...
I wonder if Shakarri Richardson has the right and ability to sue the Olympic committee for the unfair and unjust ruling.
Wait so the other athletes can't get their medals?? That's not right!
Exactly ...Why compete at all if it doesnt count
White Privileged what happen to Sha’Carri Richardson she a black runner she was disqualified because of smoking Weed and her mom passed away.
@@elchapojr6219 Not so sure if that or just simply Russians have been cheating in figure skating for decades. This is worse though cause Richardson didn't even take anything that would've made her performance better. Weed doesn't last that long. Lol. And doesn't make you faster. But she handled it with such dignity. Complete respect.
@@elchapojr6219 Bullshit. This is an absolute exception and its not about race. If you really want to make it about "privilege" (like the moron yoy seem to be) it's about her age and her talent which is despite dopping so high i would imagine that the committee would be sad to lose her talent and is struggling to make a decision. Also as 15 yo she didn't consciously tried to cheat. Also the positive result was 1 year ago and it was a micro amount. She did train with it at some point, but how much this affects her performance 1 year or more later is unclear. By the rules she it would be justified to make her not participate, but the real take away that all minors should be banned from FS in general.
I am so tired about this race baiting and victimhood. This is about a minor being abused. No its about minors being abused to perform figures which will destroy their bodies before they reach 20. And some of them are medicated by adukts putting their health and life on the line. This is the real scandal.
What a great example for future skaters
Sarcasm being your super power ❤️☮️🙏
Yeah just like Tonya Harding.......
@@saraxdouglas8577 better than stupidity.
She IS an extremely talented skater. Such soulful grace and poise! A gift to humanity.
well... make sure to follow your own rules would be a good first step to handle it better. they needed 2 months to analyse the sample. not kamilas fault. now what do you expect. she says she didn't use it. what, if they ban her though and in 2 months they find out, she was not guilty? so many ways.. in 2018 berlinger urin bottles were able to be opened and closed as soon as they were frozen. what makes us sure, there is not another way to cheat without her knowledge or even without her teams knowledge.
The main reason that she is allowed to compete was that the test result of the 25th December 2021 sample was handed in by WADA's ITA in Sweden only on the 8th of February 2022 to coincide with the Gold Award Winning Ceremony for the Russian team, that is 45 days after the test was taken and over 25 days days after the 20 day deadline for the result to be produced and presented according to WADA's own regulations. The reason why WADA drew that deadline for a sample test result to be handed in not later than 20 days is to lesson the possibility of tempering and or of contamination of the sample in question. So the Positive test result for a trace of a banned medication supplied on the 8th February 2022 cannot be validated since it was NOT Alina Valieva's fault that it was communicated late. Besides, all tests taken from Kamila Valieva's sample before the 25th of December 2021 and after the 25th of December 2021, including in January 2022 and during the Beijing Olympics all returned a NEGATIVE test result from the same anti-doping test agency in Sweden. Therefore, the freak positive test result of the 8th of February 2022 should be discarded for expiry of the set deadline of 20 days and Alina Valieva cannot be accused of having returned a positive test result to a banned medication. The IOC investigation should center about why the 25th December sample test result was supplied by the ITA in Sweden so late and whether there was malicious intent in timing the communication of the result to make it coincide with the Gold Medal Award Winning Ceremony for the Russian team.
I find it ridiculous that the B sample hasnt been tested, something is definetily not right about all this!
It is not important when or how often or how much a stranger's sperms were found inside of a married woman. She is a cheater.
@@crookim agree, but the girl is Kamila, not Alina :)
@@tinavino1575 i see that your talking about your own experience......
The reason WADA got the results so late was Covid delays but also because RUSADA didn’t flag Kamila’s sample as a priority. WADA trusts the anti doping agencies of each country to collect samples and send them to their lab. Samples of top level athletes are flagged so they get results quicker. But what do you do when an anti-doping agency actually helps athletes get away with doping. Huge corruption on RUSADA’s part
She should be out! US should move up a medal. Why does it matter how old she is?! She qualifies in this category, she should be made to take responsibility. SO unfair to the other skaters.
Remember when Nancy Pelosi told the athletes not to say anything to offend China 🤡
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She won all the major competitions clear, all the Grand Prix and the Europeans. How convenient to just frame her and disqualify her so that the undeserving Americans get the medals. I know you hate Russia now, but this girl is a natural talent and is the best in the world, no place for politics in this. Biased Americans and American journalists...
@@catalinastoianov1165 The winner should be the best of the competitors who aren't doping. That seems pretty straight forward.
@@catalinastoianov1165 Funny. British journalists were the one that broke the news. The drug test, by the way, was from before the Europeans. So that’s tainted.
If I were a judge at the Olympics -- I'd fail her on the technical performance, knowing she was drugged in advance. There is no other way to level the playing field, at this point.
Oh, I hadn’t thought of have the judges would handles this news!
Still don't get these 'This poor 15 year old didn't know what she took!' smh if you break the rules on purpose or by accident, you get punished. If you kill someone and say 'I didn't mean to kill the guy or someone made me kill em', you still get punished. Absolutely outrageous call by CAS.
If you kill someone you get trialed as a minor and there are different rules in place. Bad example
This is why once again the Olympics shouldn't allow anyone under 18 to compete.
Why? What?
People under 18 cannot compete, but transgenders can. I think this is cool.
That would really screw up womens gymnatics....
No grown person can do most the things those girls do. Except Simone Biles. And she still looks like a child...
I can see why the republicans would rather go to russia than be with a democrat...
No one cares. I really don’t think people watch the Olympics or CNN MSNBC anymore. They are irrelevant. 👎🔥👎👎
How do you ruin the Olympics for other countries? Let one play by different rules.
All the pedestal will be Russian, don’t worry for other countries:)
it's not like any other countries had a chance anyways
But Sha’Carri got the boot. Make it make sense. And marijuana is not performance enhancing.
My thoughts exactly
I can’t lie, as a stoner myself I definitely notice times when marijuana helps with my focus, oddly enough my breathing, and keeps my heart rate calm, which could be performance enhancing. I would guess that she got the boot because it is internationally illegal and not because of performance enhancing though
Exactly 💯
It does masquerade pain, thats why is banned buddy!
She didn't run because she is an adult who willingly smoked a joint and was given a result in the 20 day period. Kamila is a minor who probably didn't have a clue what she was being given (if anything at all) and whose 45 day turnaround was such a joke that even Travis Tygart called it incredibly suspicious.
It's hilarious that people still think people are "clean" in professional sports.
it won't be so hilarious for you when you get caught @egor.
Let me get this straight... The CAS decided a skater who was caught doping is allowed to compete, but if she "wins" a medal, then ALL of those who earned a medal do not get them?? So the others who earned a medal without doping are penalized because she doped??? WTH! This certainly points to how injustice is ingrained into the Olympics in skating competitions.
Don't forget about the elephants in the room, Russia who exploited this girl and the Chinese Communist Party bankrolled the IOC
I boycott the Olympics it’s all BS
Beyond belief. Im outraged that minors are allowed to compete in senior skating but not have any senior responsibility. She is a minor and needs protecting but isnt it time now to change the age limit to18 which will protect minors from harm and ensure all seniors take responsibility.
If age cannot be an excuse, than medical condition should not be either. Please take back all the gold medals of Simon Biles.
@@sjsupa you do know Russian out apply American in TUE 5 to 1, right? You can look up who and which country applies TUE from WADA database and they are public... If you want to do that then Russia are probably going to need to hand in 5 times more the medal they won, well, probably won't be 5 to 1 because Russia don't win that many medal than the US in any games.
@@cosplayshop If rules cannot be bent in any circumstance, than take back all the medals from all athletes in TUE. I don't care. Just keep it consistent.
@@cosplayshop I cannot find the TUE from WADA database. Can you provide a link? All I can find are TUE application docs, not the athletes name list.
This typical Russian mentality and bullying!!! Bullying the world is what they do best!!
Why even allow her to compete if she can’t medal? There is no point.
She can medal they are saying they are going to finish the investigation before they determine placement. If her B sample is positive for the test back in Dec. She will be DQd. If the B sample is negative they will ratify her results.
Einstein 🤡☝️
She IS an extremely talented skater. Such soulful grace and poise! A gift to humanity.
Ridiculous to cancel the whole medal ceremony though. Leave the 1st podium empty or disqualify the ROC team from medaling and redistribute the medals to athletes that complied with the rules and came to compete honorably. IOC needs to slap russia in the face not the wrist.
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For what reason? Because of an invalid test result which was handed in 25 days later than the 20 day deadline set by WADA's own rules? This champion always tested NEGATIVE before the 25th of December and after the 25th of December and in January and During the Beijing Olympics and so all of her fellow Russian athletes.
Well, other Russian skaters may take the silver or the bronze, and they TOO are likely to have taken banned drugs. The mutual coach. And the fact that even MALE Russian top skaters can't jump like them.
@@diomedecassar2244 it is surprising that among the viewers of CNN there are still people with conscience and brains
I really don’t think people care about the Olympics or CNN MSNBC anymore. They are irrelevant. 👎🔥👎👎
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규칙을 위반한것은 사실입니다 또한 많은 러시아 선수단과 더불어 발리예바는 수년간 연습하고 꿈을 키워온 수많은 선수들에게 피해를준 것입니다 나이가 어리다고 그녀가 올림픽에 출전하지 못했습니까?? 그녀는 도핑을 맞고도 당당하고 추악하고도 강렬하게 등장했습니다 제발 처벌해 주십시오 그것이 모든 세계 사람들이 원하는 공정한 올림픽입니다🙏🏼🙇🏻♀️
As a former competitive ice skater, this is disgusting and criminal! I’m done with any Olympic’s! Sorry, but there are rules and each Country knows the ramifications!
Now LEGAL for Minors to be DOPED?? ... going forward, all athletes will now be minors, pumped up on drugs. Wonderful.
Sha’Carri Richardson was banned for Marijuana, a non performance enhancing drug. Double standards 😡
Absolutely and it's a shame.
I don't particularly care for Sha'Carri because of her attitude. But I totally agree that as always there's two different systems. Both substances are prohibited but only one was (truly) held accountable. Not surprised though.
Yeah thanks Biden
She didn't run because she is an adult who willingly smoked a joint and was given a result in the 20 day period. Kamila is a minor who probably didn't have a clue what she was being given (if anything at all) and whose 45 day turnaround was such a joke that even Travis Tygart called it incredibly suspicious.
Nothing fair about this decision....so regardless of how good you are everybody rolls over for the cheaters .
Was it more fair to allow Simon Biles to take illegal drugs during competition?
This is completely unacceptable. How could they allow someone who fail a drug test to compete in the olympics? The Olympics should be all about fairness and equality. She should have been disqualified immediately and have her medals taken away. That is only fair for all of the Olympians who participated fairly and openly.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
@@ЕнотДотокин stop spreading propaganda.
Maybe this could finally be a catalyst of having no one under the age of 17 yrs of age compete in the Olympics.
So if Kamila skates and wins a medal, any other skater who gets a medal in that same event as well, won't get their medals during the Olympics. Yea that 15 year old has made enemy's for future Olympic games from here on out.
It won’t matter much in this ladies event though. The other medals are also going to the Russian girls who have the same coaching staff.
This poor girl probably didn't know what they were giving her. Doping in Russia is administered by the coaches without the athletes knowing. "Here, have this lovely breakfast and health shake." Saying that, we still don't know is she has a legitimate heart condition. Nobody in US media is mentioning or asking anything about whether that may be the case. Then there are doctors saying that this particular drug does not really enhance performance, particularly in sports that aren't long-distance.
@@exhainca they aren't mentioning it because she doesn't have a heart condition.
@@coconutgelato7459 Only two others are Russian. By letting Kamila compete they're also robbing a third skater, likely from Japan or South Korea, of their medal moment.
She IS an extremely talented skater. Such soulful grace and poise! A gift to humanity.
She is the best skater the world has ever seen by far.
So? Doping is doping
She's a 'professional' skater; 15 years old or not.
She is at work.
It's a banned substance.
Too bad.
So sad.
She cheated, on purpose or not.
People became robots
@@user-mi1lw6gf1d what?
She cheated.
Robots?! Nope.
@@0tto9 Karma is a b..tch! Even if she wins, world will not look at her as winner, only brainwashed Russians.
CNN anchors are biased for the Russian girl. If she's black, would she be allowed to skate or get the same sympathy? She is not the victim. Come on! She took banned drugs. It's not fair for the other skaters.
Microdoses of this medicine can't affect the quality of her skating in any way. Today she is the best figure skater in history. If you understand something about figure skating, you can't deny it.
I understand something about drugs. And no one has mentioned how much dose of it she was taking. If she was that good what was the point of giving it to her. It was for endurance. For her to have the energy to practice long hours and energy to make those jumps even when she is tired. People need to Stop denying and defending this. This is no longer about her, it's about the whole athletes. She is not the only young person who will be skating. Think about the other young people who will not have a good experience coz of this. If she was so great why the medication. She is good l agreed but why the medication, what was their motive? What idiot gives a 15 year heart medications for fun. Am older than 25 and am afraid of even taking Tylenol. Stop defending bad behavior. We all need to do better. Plus defending will make the adults who did this think they are genius for finding a way to get away with this, which is by using a 15 year old.
@@MrAdwoa2003 it was the microdose, please, read more about it. And why the Stockholm laboratory gave the result 2 months later? all the tests she took before and after are clean.
Kamila doesn’t exist ?! Why, Christine, are you so enthusiastically accusing Kamila & her team, but so unsure answering for the question that it is possibly a mistake this only positive test on December 25 and nothing clear yet ? She had only positive test on December 25, all others before and after are negative. Who will be responsible for all the damage she get during olympique games if it would be proved that this positive test is a big mistake and she never took a drug? Kamila isn’t Kremlin or Putin. She is an incredibly talented figure skater, the level higher than any other ever known. Can someone else skate as Valieva does even if they would take all the drugs on the world ?
I haven't always agreed with Christine Brennan, but I agree 100% with her here. What a preposterous ruling... a slap in the face to every clean athlete at these Olympics, then also really unfair to the countries who have medals at stake in the team competition. What a mess.
you and Christine speak as if no American athlete has ever failed a drugs test. Even Carl Lewis failed them numerous times, but they were all brushed under the carpet. And just look at the swimming, it's claimed all of the GDR girls were Oral T'd up to the gills, BUT, NONE of their WR's would even make finals now, so what does THAT tell you about what TODAY'S swimmers are doped up to the gills with (and it ain't better nutrition or coaching).
how is it fair to allow Simone Biles to perform in relation to clean athletes who do not use doping due to "illness"?
@@bartcubbins9757 About as fair as it is that a huge majority of the Scandinavian cross country skiers are 'asthmatics' with TUEs for PED medication. In fact, I remember reading a recent report that said that EVERY member of the Norwegian squad at the time was an asthmatic. There should be NO TUEs in sport, full stop.
Just disgusted by this ruling. The Olympics can not be trusted anymore. As much as I have truly loved the Olympic games for all of my 70 yrs. I am done watching them. They are all fixed! Just appalling, all of these power hungry officials. Count me out!!!!!
The test in question, was handed over on 25th December. According to records, it was 'documented' as arriving at the lab in Sweden on 19th January. (However a documented arrival date is just a documented date, it could have of course arrived much earlier but deliberately not been recorded). The results were given on 7th Feb, just within the 20 day allotted period. However, what the hell was happening with that 'supposedly' tamper free tube that was in WADA's possession for 25 days between 25th December and 19th Jan is anyone's guess.
Господи спасибо что существуют разумные люди
Stop blaming our Swedish lab for the delay. It is very well documented why all the tests from Russian champion ships where delayed. It’s because of the lab at Karolinska institute (the institution that gives out the Nobel price in medicine) The delay was due 1st/ to covid-19 (omicron) that ravished our country in the past 2 months and quarantine rules for family members, 2nd/ to delays in delivery’s (that the whole world has and is suffering from). Then RADA sat on the results for a month! State sponsored cheating!
@@lasylphide-s5j RUSADA didn't sit on the results for a month, the results only came out on the 7th Feb. Like I said, that 'sample' apparently sprouted a pair of legs and went walkabout for 25 days. If the Russians were gonna mess with it, they'd have made sure it was 'clean' before handing it over. As regards delivery delays, there wasn't ANY restriction of air travel between Russia and Sweden at the time. Says a lot when the director of the institute replied 'no comment'.
@@lasylphide-s5j My question is not even to the laboratory, if they understood that this test would last longer than life, then why it was impossible to pass it earlier so that there would be no delays in announcing the test result. And then the figure skater had already won two competitions and then they decided to accuse her of some kind of doping test
Цена командного золота. Если бы результаты опубликовали раньше, Камилу бы заменили. А результаты пришли сразу после командника. Не удивлюсь, если проба б будет чистой, а косяки лаборатории спишут на ковид.
I no longer have any respect for the CAS or the IOC. This sickens me.
I agree… I think no one now will respect them.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
Wait, why are we letting kids into the Olympics anyway?
I really don’t think people care about the Olympics or CNN MSNBC anymore. They are irrelevant. 👎🔥👎👎
While I feel sorry for her being misled by her coaches and trainers, it’s not right or fair to other skaters for her to compete. She used a substance that gave her an advantage over others, and cheaters should not be rewarded. It sets a bad precedent for future drug use.
she old enough to know what she is taking.....gimme a break
@@MissPerriwinkle True, but she trusted her coach and trainers to not screw her over. Like I mentioned, it’s not right for her to compete, you give me a break.
@@Thetequilashooter1 She has been brainwashed since being a little kid by the Russian system, ANYTHING to "win". Why however should the rest of the world care? All athletes that played by the book and now this?
@@MissPerriwinkle YES she is old enough!
Yeah like they mentioned she's competing against other minors who actually passed the drug test
It's pretty bad when the IOC is the vessel of credibility and fairness in the conversation....just sayin' Russia. I do feel bad for the athlete...she is clearly very talented but competes for a corrupt country and probably had little choice or say in the matter of this substance.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
@@ЕнотДотокин No need to apologize, your writing is just fine...really, it's better than most Americans in terms of clarity, structure, and grammar but we also have a lot of dumb dumbs here who never learned to write well. On the other hand, your rationale is full of holes. She never took the substance? So what are we to believe...that the substance just magically appeared in her system? And bigger picture, is there any legitimate dispute that the doping program among Russian athletes was / is widespread ? I mean when the rest of the world including numerous credible international doping agencies are nodding in agreement and just one country is denying it....come on. Is this skater ridiculously talented? Yes, obviously. Are Russian athletes at the elite international level, with a doubt yes. But the world has established a set of rules to abide by, one of which is doping-free competition, and the standards are very clear. And hey, it's not as if the US has not had its own share of doping cheaters...but, when caught cheating, they face real consequences...even athletes that are "national heros". There's a real benefit to the larger society when this sort of cheating is not tolerated and conversely, there's a degrading effect on society when cheating is denied, defended, or promoted. Personally, I could really care less about how many gold medals "we" win...but when cheaters amongst our athletes are identified, I prefer to see them removed from competition for the signal it sends to the norms of acceptable behavior of our society.
@@nlabanok Understand, I do not consider Valieva a fraudster. She is an athlete in a big political game. I'm sure she's clean. Maybe it's all just an attempt to desecrate the honor of the team?
@@ЕнотДотокин Well this is just blind belief in a conspiracy that the drug testing program is operated to only identify banned substances in Russian athletes. The data simply does not support that premise and there's zero actual evidence that the drug testing program is biased against Russian athletes. There's no sense in trying to convince a believer of conspiracy theories of anything different...so, enjoy the (tainted) Olympic skating program...and continue enjoying the conspiracy theories that Putin and his government push onto you in the name of nationalism and with the objective of keeping the Russian people distracted with claims of how unfairly the world treats your great country....and it is a great country and so much better than the silliness that the country's leadership bestows on the people.
The more I learn about this situation, the more I think Kamila should be able to compete. She is a minor, has devoted her life to skating, dance and training, obviously has zero knowledge of any pharmaceutical effects (probably was told those were 'vitamins' if the test result is even accurate in the first place), has already put all the hard work in and deserves to compete as she is simply the best. There is no medication that can teach perfect technique, extension, dance ability and triple axles and quads. It's disgusting that this situation has emerged right at this highly suspicious moment and seems to be deliberately orchestrated to throw her off her game. I hope she competes tomorrow and wins, that's the whole point, the medals will be given eventually. I support her 100 percent and only blame the numerous adults in all corners for her ending up in this horrific position.
Agree
The whole world should boycott the skating competition in this Olympics. IOC should be ashamed for this decision. It loses any credibility in the future.
I boycott the whole damn thing I watch no Olympics no Academy Awards no Super Bowl all it is is big wigs making more money But I love the halftime show
All other countries should boycott until Russia is banned.
Russian mafia thuggery permeates all aspects of their society, they shouldn’t be allowed in any games,
The Olympics as a whole is a shitshow this year
She is only 15 so can come back in 4 years, she should be disqualified
Sha'Carri Richardson was disqualified for smoking weed, why the hell is Kamila allowed to continue competing for actually doping?
Valieva's reputation will be tainted for the rest of her career, and a dark cloud will hang over the sport for many years to come. This decision is wrong. Period.
It’s also very pitiful for her, but at the same time, it’s terrible for other figure skaters. I'm so sorry to her, but this is unfair to other athletes.
I'm worried that this will hurt precious children.
If this is mental and physical damage to the athletes, we no longer have any meaning of enjoying the Olympics.
I hope no one gets hurt..😭
I really don’t think people care about the Olympics or CNN MSNBC anymore. They are irrelevant. 👎🔥👎👎
She IS an extremely talented skater. Such soulful grace and poise! A gift to humanity.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
Why even bother to do drug testing if they’d let it slide and the athletes compete regardless of the result…Just for the sake of good sportsmanship and other countries the Russia team should volunteer to withdraw from the competition. Can’t believe they want to stay on the game at the price of other. So imposing
Agreed... Take ANY and ALL drugs necessary to achieve the greatest heights/achievements possible by human beings.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
Where is Tanya Harding when we need her?!
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Why is everyone crying? Biological males are competing against women and nobody says a word.
I have discontinued watching the Olympics and will continue to do so until they are fair for everyone. I’m not sure that is even possible with a corrupt IOC along with people who simply don’t have the same standards of honesty and fair play.
Whet they will investigate why the test was delayed then its going to be a final decision on this case
She was tested clear.in Beijing, this is a much delayed.test result, done in December...
She IS an extremely talented skater. Such soulful grace and poise! A gift to humanity.
She may be young, but skating has been her whole life, her whole focus. I do not believe, for a moment, that she is a victim. Fifteen is old enough to know what cheating looks like.
yea, but you forgot than in Russia you either do what they say or you`re done.
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@@Deni-mt9bj What do you mean?
@@lonelyanimator78 I mean that Russia has a long history of making people disappear if their opinion is not comfortable for the country.
She’s so talented and probably could have won without it but we’ll never know for sure.
No. Valieva, being helped by a few banned drugs, can rotate in the air like a propeller, but her edges are horrible, and she does 360 degree pre rotations.
@@tinavino1575 this girl can trashed anyone in the ice ring, youre just a russophobe!
She been tested positive from December sample (??), all tests negative during the Olympics games. She simply THE BEST in a WORLD!!!!
Olympic Games became garbage sink. As well as this western bullying of the Russian athletes… It’s disgusting and make me puke!
I don't understand why she is being allowed to compete. Her participation potentially keeps others from winning.
because the case isn`t closed. Even if she wins (which I doubt after all that stress) they can still decide she will not get the medal. Don`t forget that the test she did for the Olympics were clean and those who came positive came really late - that is the reason why she can compete.
I don’t understand why wada still works, their work does not match the deadlines and work requirements..
Because is a hearth medication, is not dumping, also she was test in the Olympics she has test negative
Surprised anyone even watches the Olympics any more.
Point of fact... These Olympics received the lowest viewership on record....So NBC should thank her for this.
Ice skating still has good views.
Oh no, american viewership of the olympics is down, what is the rest of the world gonna do without them??????
It still has great views. Sorry comrade.
The Olympics have become a complete joke. This decision is a total disgrace and slap in the face to every competitor, not just figure skaters. Russia makes me sick.
For your information. Valieva did not use the banned drug, it did not affect her indicators in any way. Our girl is clean. Her reputation is ruined only by those who, without understanding the situation and without clarifying the information in verified sources, criticize our athletes. The timing of the use of this drug has long been out of the competition. As for me, everything is obvious. She is a winner and I am ashamed of the West, which cannot accept defeat.
Sorry for the illiteracy in writing. Greetings from Russia)
The 4 important things we should pay attention in this Camila case are as follows.
1. In this season, during 4 months from the 2nd Grand Prix Skate Canada (Oct.29.2021) to Olympic,
Camila's doping test results were all clean at 4 international competitions.
2. Only one doping test result for Russian national competition was more than 200 times polluted.
3. Why RUSADA requested doping test for domestic competition to Sweden and
what was the reason such long time (6 weeks) needed for test & result publication?
4, Under the above situation, was IOC's action against Camila appropriate?
Regarding 1 and 2,
Camila was on the way of breaking new records during that period,
so if she intentionally used drug to improve her performance, it was impossible unless she continuously used it,
Therefore it is medically impossible to explain.
And she has been negative at both the Euro Champ and the Olympics after Dec. 25, but she made an Olympic records again at team tournament.
For 3, there are two possibilities.
One possibility is that the Swedish lab made a technical error,
and the other is that RUSADA got involved in a Russian internal dark fight and deliberately tried to swap samples to kill Camila and Etheri.
It is up to you to decide which possibility is higher.
What I'm going to focus on is about 4.
Under situation of lack of convincing evidence and Camila's unacceptance of intentional doping, the IOC sued to CAS to disqualify her.
However, the CAS dismissed the IOC's indict on the grounds that Camila was a child under the age of 16 and the principle of presumption of innocence,
allowed her to compete in the individual competitions. This means not just let her go out on the ice, but let her normally can compete.
So IOC should have announced that IOC would normally award medals for the results of the competition,
but medal and record could be deprived if Camila's intentional doping definitely found out.
However, IOC put tons of pressure on Camila with a shocking decision that "If Camilla is in the top three, the awards ceremony will be cancelled.",
Eventually, this IOC's brutal threat forced her to step down herself from the podium.
Furthermore this made it impossible to watch Camila's performance in full of heavenly and mysterious beauty,
which all figure skating fans around the world wanted to see.
And it could have been the greatest performance of her life. (I pray fervently to God that it won't be!)
Camila is not only treasure of Russia but joy of all Figure skating fans around world who pursue perfect beauty!
The IOC should kneel down and beg for forgiveness to her and to all figure skating fans around the world and take all responsibility!