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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2017
- Software Developer Salaries
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I have a question. I'm a girl. In college. Crazy in love with technology. I feel like I'm not pushing myself enough. Right now I just study for college, read books, watch shows and fantasize about what my life could be. I have all these ideas and projects I wanna start, stuff I wanna learn on my own, but I'm terrified. My fear of failure and not being good enough is stopping me from doing what I wanna do. How do I get over that? I'm not close with anyone who works in the tech industry. I don't know anyone who can help me or give me advice. And doing things alone is scary. I feel stupid just for asking this xD
Btw love your videos 😄
I used to have this issue but taking math courses and going through calculus made me abandon the fear of failure. You need to change your perspective on failure. Failing and being bad at something is how you eventually get good. Embrace your mistakes and learn from them. It's great that you're interested in coding and shit, and you should work hard as hell on it. But doing other stuff and learning other things will advance your skills as well down the road (for example, I like to teach myself piano). There IS a leap of faith you have to make in yourself, just keep believing in yourself, be stubborn about where you want to be and GET STARTED. DO THOSE PROJECTS, MAKE EM SLICK, AND SHOW THEM OFF and get people involved in your stuff. Find people like you. Check out GirlDevelopIt . com if you have a nearby chapter of women working on projects and building shit together.
I'm assuming you want to do coding. So this answer is going to reflect that assumption. You're going to fail all the time. That's just the nature of coding. You're going to eventually solve the problems if you keep at it though. Plus there's a lot of people online who have gone through the same struggles. Find answers there.
If you have a little bit of money to spare buy some courses on udemy. They'll walk you through some pretty cool projects. If you don't have money there's plenty of free resources too. You just have to look.
Keep at it though. You're only going to get better :).
I am a software engineer in tech and to be honest you never get over that fear of not being good enough. The only thing you can do is work until you are. The more work you put in, the more you begin to respect yourself and feeling good enough. It’s rough for women in tech. There’s a lot of isolation due to not being represented. But fear is a distraction like anything else. Don’t let it distract you. :)
Thank you. I'll try. And I am doing some courses on udemy 😄
If more people discussed their salaries employers wouldn’t be able to low ball people.
interesting!
Kingston Anderson there is a world outside of the lucrative profession of software engineering. But even there, salaries range drastically. Who knows who is earning what in a company, and that’s the point.
It’s taboo to talk about salary and that gives employers the upper hand. You wouldn’t feel resentful of another if their salary was higher but you did the same job. You would feel underpaid by your employer and would demand a raise. But it’s become such a sticky subject that we’d rather not discuss salary and allow our co-workers to be taken advantage of then to band together as workers to ensure everyone gets what they deserve.
In other countries (e.g., Germany) it is common for people to know what others' salaries are. It is a cultural thing. There was a story on Planet Money, a while ago about a company that experimented with transparent salary report; they had mixed results and had to make adjustments to their reporting.
Hmmm... thanks for correcting me. I worked for IBM a long time ago and I remember everyone knowing everyone else's job classification "level". Since levels were closely associated with their salaries, salary levels were well known.
Word! I recently moved jobs and experienced a 24% bump in salary. Is crazy what staying too long in a company can do to you. The people that change jobs often, seem to be doing a whole lot better with their income.
I really admire how he readily acknowledges that he had a privileged upbringing. Respect for that
Thanks for the transparency Dave!
Thanks for sharing! Takes courage to be this open. Much appreciated!!!
Thanks for posting this! Perfect timing because I’m getting ready to accept an offer in a few days!
Congrats!
Thanks for the video as always, Dave!
Thank you for your informative video Dave , we had snow in northern Virginia as well : )
Thank you for your honesty. I really enjoyed the info you provided and your candidness.
Wow I thought you were in your early twenties. You look really young.
And thank you for sharing this information. It's really insightful 😊
Thanks for sharing, Dave!
Dope vid brotha! I’m 23, graduated hs in 2012 and am just now going to start college 2018 spring. Going for a software engineering major in Cali!
Good luck man! Good stuff awaits, take care.
Appreciate the content Dave, keep it coming!!! :)
Dave thank you so much for all of your videos!!
Thanks for sharing. I think it would be awesome if you make videos regarding how interviews changed/ what they consisted of throughout the different levels (entry, Jr, Senior) of your career.
This was so helpful, thanks for sharing your info!
I bumped into your videos and I have to say that you give pretty good tips and advices even though I don't live in the Usa but it applies in my country as well as the rest of the world. Thank you
Thanks for sharing this Dave. Happy holidays :)
Thanks for the info man
Much respect ✊🏾 to you David pure motivation!
That's legit boss. Thanks for sharing these information to us.
Thanks for being transparent!
Definitely great information!!!
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEOO... LOVE IT.. SO HELPFUL.. THANK YOU SO MUCH...
Thanks for your honesty! May you remain humble and successful.
Well I just got done w/ my Fall Semester not too long ago, but I've decided that I still need to keep pushing myself to learn more during the Winter Break. I decided that the two main things I need to get into are Python and System Verilog. I've heard that Python is pretty easy, but WOW. I've already done classes in C and C++, so when I started going over Python, I felt like this was just too easy. It's only been about a week, but I feel like I'm already comfortable enough with it to put it on my resume. One thing I kind of did was re program some of my old HW assignments that were in C/C++ in Python, to kind of give myself some practice. Now I'm getting into System Verilog, and I have a FPGA board to play with. Watching a video like this, hearing those figures, it only motivates me MORE. Definitely gonna keep pushing harder to have one of these big name companies recognize my talent.
Thanks for all this info! One question: Have you found in most salary discussions that you're expected to have a figure in your head already, or does the recruiter/hiring manager typically make an offer first and negotiate from there? I know at some companies in other industries, hiring managers require you to tell them what you want to make before they'll even start a negotiation, forcing you to stab in the dark & hoping you'll say something low. Personally I always feel better able to negotiate when the other person gives the first figure, so I can have an idea of what their budget is and what's realistic. Is it kosher in this industry to answer "how much do you want" with "how much do you want to pay me?"
Again, thank you! It's so helpful to have real numbers & situations to put things into perspective. It's really awesome of you to share such personal info to benefit people new to the industry.
Thank you for this video, very helpful information.
Awesome video bro!!!
you got a subscriber 👌
respect you sharing these very important and helpful information.
Thanks for the personal information! I think it's information that a lot of us need to hear since it's so awkward to ask people about money.
Could you give some insight on negotiation tactics? How to figure out how much leverage you have, and how you can gain more leverage. In what cases should you be cautious about asking too much? How much is too much?
Jesus, 30 years old. I thought he'd be like 24 LOOL. That's coming from a 20 year old asian guy too.
same haha!
20 years old is still to young to be judging his age like that. You also just hit 20... not even like mid 20s yet
what? being older doesn't make you better at looking at people's ages. If anything younger people probably have a better sense of age because to old people everybody looks 12 years old.
hahaha
only white ppl look old at 30 lol
I like your personal videos. They are like a true "vlog" or video diary for world. Thanks for your videos.
danm dude, you are a rockstar, i just came from joes codingphase channel.
I enjoy your videos so much I hope you will publish more soon I like your style your apparence the way you express yourself and your cleverness and the quality of what you are doing
great video!! I have to step up my game! 🤓
Great video. Salary is such a taboo subject, but your openness to talk about it and strategies to compare really help the job seeker earn their market rate, and avoid getting short-changed.
Thanks Dave
I'm currently on my self taught journey and hearing this motivates me a little more even though I may not be making close to that much when i get hired since I'm not going to College but thanks for the transparancy and for the extra motivation.
Sending you positive vibes on the journey, take your time.
Great video and info! Can you create a video explaining how to negotiate initial salaries + stock options, raises and promotions, please? THANKS!!!
thank you for this! It's hush hush with mechanical engineering too.
This was definitely a very informative video, I wish more people were this honest about a career salary
Great video 😁✌️
I really like you honesty man. I have a similar “context” as you. Did EECS at Umich, was in HKN, MS at Penn in systems engineering. I went the prop trading / computational Finance route in Chicago. Had some ups and downs with bonuses but overall ended up around the same place as you at age 30.
There are videos on here saying that Google/FB engineers around the “senior engineer” level are making $200k-$300k range after equity. Do you think that’s true?
Thanks for sharing
Thankful for the vid
Hey man. Great video.
I am curious about self taught developers.
I am currently learning Python and I am curious how much of a base salary can I expect after 5ish years in the US market (assuming I do quite well)?
Thanks bud.
P.S. Just subbed, keep up the great work.
Hi Dave, what’s your experience with Canadians moving to the US to work in dev? I’m asking as I took a non-traditional route to software but still ended up in testing but am looking to get a job down there
What kind of dev were you in these roles? (Frontend, Backend etc.)
hey man, which languages and frameworks do you mainly use? thanks
Thanks for the transparency Dave. I know it’s personal, but money is the whole reason people get jobs. Your career is supposed to be a return on investment of your college degree. I know it’s the number one thing I want to know when I hear someone’s career.
Man I know you from somewhere! Obsessed Garage! LOL We have some similar tastes LOL
Edwin Duran Small world man!
Great videos Dave. I think I'm crushing on you 😂
Nice man nice story!
Wow $150k, 7 years after school. You are the man bro! Make sure you are saving a ton and become super wealthy! Awesome!
Depends where you live but man the classes are HARD! lol
Nah New York is expensive
If he’s smart he could retire by like 35.
He lives in New York. He's not retiring any time soon.
wizzy one that’s his loss.
...region matters too...the CoL in CA and NY is pretty high and I've always believed that people making 60k to mid 70k in the southern states could live about the same as people making 90k-100k in those two....don't know how accurate this is nowadays...
Very accurate. Cost of living plays a major part in different states and cities. You'll pay 1500-2000 for decent living in Chicago while you'll put out 400 bucks for rent an hour away in Rockford IL.
Sheilfer Zepeda 400?? wtf
Yes, some places in Illinois and Indiana and midwestern rural life is cheaper. Theres far less opportunity around. There's a particular niche of chemical and such engineers that get paid will and life highly affordable lives. But not everyone has access to that.
If by CA and NY you mean NYC and SF, then your numbers are off. Making 60k-70k in an affordable city is like making 110k-140k in NYC or SF.
that's just about true
Hey I’m 16 and I really want to get a head start in coding and getting a better understanding of what a SE does. Idk which way to go because I don’t have a lot of info
thanks man
You should increase frequency of videos
If I get a master's after my CS bachelor's would it increase my pay you think?
Can you do a video on how stressful the job is?
Yes please. Talk about what kind of a personality is best suited to be a software developer and what kind is not.
or how is it working in teams in the tech industry, would love for you to cover these topics
Lmao, you don't need personality to be a software developer. It's all a bunch of worker bees who are introverts coming together.
Agreed as a new junior developer without a CS or Engineering background- adjusting to my new team environment has been somewhat tough. Developers definitely have certain personality traits which can make communication difficult. Patience also does not seem to be a strong suit of devs when dealing with juniors!
that was a pretty good information
Software Engineers in the US seems to get really well paid compared to other countries. Here in Singapore, I would say the median pay for a Computer Science graduate would be about ~31K USD, 75th percentile would be ~45K USD in 2017 dollars context and you made ~80K USD 9 years ago!?. Even after adjusting for the cost of living, which Singapore isn't exactly a cheap place to live in to begin with, it would to safe to assume that Software Engineers in the US make at least double?
What college did you go for grad school? And do you think the prestige of the college you attend really determines if you will get a job faster m?
I like that jacket. Where'd ya get it?
I would just do an interview once in a while and ask for an absurd amount, and I can see the companies limit for my position. It has two benefits: it keeps you in the know about how much you're worth, and it keeps you sharp with coding interview and whiteboarding. It has been working well for me, as being an Asian like you I feel uneasy even to ask my friends about their salary.
+Tao Zhang This is THE best way to do it. If your employer values your skills they will usually offer you more money to not leave. Rinse and repeat.
Great video. At 35 years old i'm going through a crossroads in my life professionally. Currently i'm working overseas as a contractor which I've been doing for years now. I was taking pre-nursing courses so I can get accepted into a nursing program but switch my major to cyber security. I have read that although cyber security itself is in great demand, getting a degree in it isn't that valuable. Since i'm new to all of this, would a computer science degree be more beneficial for me? I've also heard that I may be too old once I enter the work force, competing against much younger computer science new grads. Any advice you may have would be greatly appreciated.
Jorge Soto Hey man, late response here. I hope it helps. I went through a similar situation. CS can certainly be worth it, but it’s hard work if u have a fam and grown folks responsibilities. May I suggest trying to work for a defense contractor, that’s what I did. Most are good about hiring Veterans (I’m assuming u are a Vet bc of contracting) and already having a clearance really helps.
Thank you
What are y'alls opinions on a computer information systems degree(CIS) im currently a senior pursuing this degree in a software development focus. I'm hoping there will be a lot of opportunities for me going forward! (Austin, TX area)
22, just graduated. My first job is 95k in the USA midwest. Off to a pretty good start and dont want to blow it
I definitely agree with the culture aspect of our lives and how they differ from people born/raised in the US.
Here because of codingphase. Cool channel kid
I'm starting to understand that getting 60k in South Carolina for my first SE job with no college or boot camp is a bigger deal than I thought.
Thank you so much for this video, it helps me put things into perspective.
Hi Dave, thanks for this video! I am in a similar situation (big company -> startup). A startup’s big selling point is equity. My question is, has that faired well for you? Or is equity bogus?
I think in general its wise to view your equity to have a value of 0 unless its a really high amount and even then
Hey Chang, one thing to do up front is to make sure you try to get your market rate in terms of salary. Startups should be able to do this if they are capitalized, the one exception is if you really join early and they only have 500k or ~1M. In such an early case you can try to get a lot of equity. Equity has no tangible value, but you should still use it as incentive. The whole point of it is that it's collective. Company wins, everyone wins. You should get your market salary and strive to keep increasing and getting more and more equity as you invest time in the startup.
Dave Xiang thank you! That makes sense. I think a lot of startups try to use equity in place of salary.
Being a software engineer do you work long hours like 50 or 60? love videos you have a subscriber :)
$70000 a year second year in technology. No degree just some certificates. I do need some contract support if you live in New mexico.
Dave Xiang, in which software engineering filed are you....... Like software engineering is so vast in field....
Hey I see a lot of resemblance with you and Glen from the walking dead! Anyway nice video!
i have a question , ok i’m 15 in a it academy at my school do good in every subject but math i wanna be a software developer or something to do with it . i don’t no any code and scared i’m going to fail at it . i always did like tech but was never really that good in math .
How would you rate your knowledge when you just finished your master in electrical engenering and computing?
I'm currently 3rd year and I have a lot of theory knowledge I'd say, but i feel like no one will give me job if I can't do something practical and actually useful.
Would it be effective for me at all by learning software engineering myself
I use Paysa to check salary & total comp. The numbers keep getting higher every year in Bay Area!
True in indian culture context too ! thanks for the "asking" point you made.
What networth max could you expect from engineering, in the first five years after graduation
Are you guys hiring new grads? I just finished CS at UCSD and Im trying to get into the startup world.
William Quan lmao EE at UCSD
Wow in London where i am, top jobs out of university offer only about £40,000
In portugal less than 12k per year heheheh
Could you tell me of show what the job is Like? I am about to start my degree.
I'm in London. I'm 34 with no degree but I'm self taught and know my stuff. My annual salary is £53,000. My take home pay after tax is about £3,150.
Why did you choose Computer Engineering over computer science?
Dave do you have a masters in computer science?
Mate,I’m planning on doing Masters in CS,Looking at Things now,I will have my Master’s degree by 25,What are the advantages of Having a Master’s degree and what do you think will be the starting salary?
cot damn! your salary is one of the crazy ones. Do you think a front end software engineer can make that kind of salary?
it happens in Africa as well it regards to accepting want you receive.
oh dude I just like your style...
What is the average staring salary for a self taught web developer or software developer in nyc?
Hey Dave, Why did you choose to major in Computer Engineering instead of Software Engineering? What were the factors that led to your decision?
Bryan Ralphs computer engineering is closer to the hardware than software engineering is. Employers prefer hard skills like electrical engineering and computer engineering over ‘soft’ skills like software engineering or IT. I know that down the road a few years it may not matter but your cv speaks louder than anything.
It would be good to indicate in title that you are describing US market.
Hi Dave, My name is Alex and I have just started to learn Java from scratch and I want to become an Android developer. My question is that is there any difference between learning Java Language in general as well as learning Java specifically for Android (Mobile App) development, also which one is the most efficient way to learn.Shall I learn some basic Java Programming and then watch tutorials on Android app development or vise versa.There is a course on Udemy called Android App Development for Beginners: 93 Hours+ & 84 Apps which I'm interested to buy and I need someone to help me.Thank you very much I would deeply appropriate if you can answer my question.
thanks
Electrical engineering.... worth it? Or switch to software? I’m finishing my first semester this year
Quo-do’s man you shared some crazy info...