"I AM THE TRUE OONI OF IFE" - OLUGBO OF UGBOLAND
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This man is saying the pure truth and I don't know why people always stay away from truth and keep dwelling in lies. According to the history then we learnt dat Oduduwa came to Ile-ife and met some people already living in the land so how manage the stranger is now the son of the soil? Except if what we red then wasn't true and which Oni of Ife testified to it in one of his statement that when they first come to IFE but claimed that they were not human being like the life of OBATALA OGUN etc which we all know they were all human so I stand here to be corrected only from those who really want to say the truth.
Yeah
The truth hurts people who are not genuine, but it is always appealing to people with clean spirit. Observe that any man or woman who stands by the truth is only protecting life.
I respect and salute you for your comment here. I know the yorubas will want to destroy you for this, and I also know that you will prevail.
They are only making our history sound implausible, but we can correct it.
A good aspect of the story is that the Olugbo did not deny the fact that his great great grand father was defeated by a man from other land(Mecca) who took over the palace in Ife. Africans should embrace researches to set records straight.
Benin king 👑 don't speak when people are talking. When Oba Of Benin speaks every one listens
I am Adebiyi of Igbole Ekiti. My family and I have been called Yoruba "Omo Oodua" for as long as I can remember and for as long as Yoruba can remember. Yoruba has a very rich language in the mouth of Adebiyi; along with a very deep history. He has brothers to the left and has brothers to the right and he knows who they are.
Today, Yoruba has grown to old to remember who he is. He is very forgetful and gets things confused sometimes. He can't remember where he came from or how he is related to his brothers on the left and the brothers on the right. He staggers and stumbles even in the day time; as if it were night. He mumbles all sort of conflicting stories that confuse his children. He is no different from a sleep talker.
Adebiyi says;
"Who will help Yoruba remember? The children want to know. We are a big tree with no clear root. Our leaves are green and our trunk is wide, but the trunk is hollow. We are loud at the knocking of the tree trunk; a perfect talking drum because we are empty."
If we don't ask Yoruba, he will die with everything he can remember. If we don't ask a question, we will not get an answer.
WHO IS YORUBA?
WHAT IS YORUBA?
WHAT IS YORUBA'S TRUE STORY?
This man is right.one who believes in intellectual honesty is characterised by readiness to scrutinised what one believed to b true and kindly pay attention to other evidence available.any body in ife can contest for the post ooni but history proved that obaship is from father to son.ife have lost their kingship.
Where are you all these years. ..just waking up to realize you are forefather of all the Yorubas..but cannot even express yourself well in proper Yoruba. Ibere ore.....
Ibere ote. ...
🤣😅🤣🤣🤣
This man should accept it..your ancestors was conquered pure and simple. If a superior power conquer you..u either keep shut or fight back but it seems u are not ready to do either of d two. Stories📯😀😀😀
This is a powerful arguments. kutukutu was an ooni or leader of all at that time, he never gave up his throne, but remains a king of ugboland he just founded. I want more history about this. kutukutu is a pure descendant of Oranfe.
Olugbo of ugboland is the custodian of the culture of the Yoruba people,,he is the true ooni of ife
...The Aare will not let a fake Ooni wear it
He is right. Oranfe- ora loni ife, is the leader of oduduwa n obatala. Ora is the owner of ife. Oba kututu is a lineage of oranfe. Kututu is the first king of ugholand.
When a man is blessed with wealth far greater than what his little sence can handle . A man who parades a degree that he can't defend ,cash based first degree from a private university
Oduduwa met us at Ile ife.....
Hunmmn! Ote mbo wa o! they are about to start something
I know that some yorubas know the truth and are willing to be honest about it. Ikaladeran Izoduwa Owodo is the man they call Oduduwa or Oodua. He is not a mistic or myth figure like yoruba history described him. He was the exiled prince from Benin.
I know dis story is very correct oni of ife is a slave in palace before
No matter what some yoruba say concerning the olugbo of ugbo, there is an element of truth in what he is saying because of so many version of the origin of oduduwa. Why will the same yoruba people not have a concrete history of oduduwa. Why having different historical version of the origin of oduduwa. This let us know that oduduwa is indeed a stranger. Moreover if oduduwa is a yoruba name while change it to Oodua. What is the connection between oduduwa and Oodua.
Thank u sir
Although this Ugbo king is not 50% right but he threw some light to the origin of Yorubas. On many occasions, I have argued with my Yoruba uncles, seniors, brothers, colleagues etc, that Oduduwa was not the originating founder of the Yorubas. Oduduwa the son of Lamurudu was a warrior immigrant from a town in Saudi Arabia. After the assassination of his father Lamurudu by the Islamic Jihadists, Oduduwa & his two brothers, their extended families, followers and multi- thousand warriors ran to save their lives and travelled down south to resettle. He migrated to Ile-Ife with multi- thousands of his followers and was hosted by the Arole of Orunmila named Agboniregun. He decided to settle down in Ile-Ife and later became Agboniregun's son in law by marrying Agboniregun's first daughter. The other two brothers of Oduduwa are Gogobiri & Kukawa decided to settle down with their followers in Kano, Katsina and Ukari in the northern Nigeria while Oduduwa continue his journey down to Ile-Ife. The yorubas have been in existence thousands of years before Oduduwa migrated to Ile-Ile from Saudi Arabia. Likewise Edo Benin known as Benin City has also been in existence before Oduduwa’s invasion. After his settlement at Ile Ife he later waged war against Benin and after conquered, installed his eldest grandson Akinshuwa (now known as Akinzuha) as the King of Benin city. The history of the Yoruba has been messed up by the old historical scholars especially the Ph D holders, early politicians, missionaries and early white settlers. Young Yorubas who are interested to know the origins of the Yorubas and not the origin of Oduduwa can go and get a copy of “Asa ati Orisa Ile Yoruba by Olu Daramola & Jeje”. This book can give them some insight & logical information about the origins of Yoruba.)
To be candid & factual, it is very important for all Yorubas to know that they (i.e. the Yorubas) have been in existence before Oduduwa came from Saudi Arabia. And it is also important & necessary for the Yorubas to appreciate the incredible and great work done by the great Oduduwa and his descendant families. The great work which includes the foundation of Yoruba Kingdom, centralization of governance & administration, civilization, customization, structural developments, massive territorial expansion & viable territorial security etc. It is noted that previously before Oduduwa came, we had Songhai, Mali & Ghana Empires but as a prince, he founded & established a Kingdom & not an
empire.
Lastly, I will comment only on two of the issues raised by Oba Olugbo that is (1) he is the true Oni of Ife: It may be true because Oni of Ife was one of the kingship titles that come to creation during the British/Queen administrations (during Aiye daiye Oyinbo era). And (2) that someone cannot be crown as the King (Oba) when his father is still alive. This statement was a complete lie & total fallacy because both Oduduwa & Olofin (known as Okanbi) were still alive when Oduduwa’s grandchildren were made kings.
From Arole Ifafowowemi, USA.
You claim the benin came from ile ife,
An sure the question to the yorobas
Where does oduduwa come from?
What does oduduwa mean in yoruba.
Who was his father ?
What evidence are there of his origin?
We know the yorobas as well educated today but dont fool your self and your kids the privilege of knowing the true history of your people by trying to rewrite your history to suit your self.
Before oduduwa the benin had a well organized kingship recorded known as the ogisa ( king from the sky). Which was already hereditary. So the question of hereditary has been solved for the edos.
Was there any hereditary rule of kingship before oduduwa arrival to ife ?
To my understanding he created the kingship hereditary in ife.
Upon oduduwa arival to ife Your history recorded an oracle foresaw the arrival of a stranger who will lead the people who became know as ile ife.
Benin believe oduduwa changes his name to izoduwa on arrival to ife after been accepted and welcome to bw one of them.
Izoduwa in benin mean ( i have chosen the part of greatness)
Yoruba also claimed he came from the sky. Which to my understanding the ife may have misinterpreted him saying his father was the ogiso which translate him been the prince or king from the sky.
The name ile ife was the new name the yoroba people became know as.
Ile ife in edo mean ( through runing i became rich) which can be argued. a prince runing for his life finding a new settlement and made king explains the new name.
Yorobas claim the edo people known as ( igodomigodo ) came to ife to ask for a king.
But failed to clarify the relationship between the edo and the yorobas.
My question what was the relationship betweenthe ifes and edos. Before oduduwa? Was there any.?
Why would the ife king allow his son to go with strangers to a new kingdom.?
Did oduduwa know the edo elders before?
Its strange , i would believe a wise man like oduduwa would not have allowed his son to go to a none known land.
To conclude a little of vas fact .
The edo (igodomigodo) had a long history of hereditary ruler long before the oduduwa hereditary rule in ife.
Edo who had practice hereditary kings would not have come to ife who had just started their to ask foe guidance except the edo knew oduduwa as the prince that fled for his safety.
History is beautiful but please do not rewrite it to suit you because you see your self superior now.
Today history teaches us of kings and kingdoms that have been lost in time we should be grateful our history and culture still lives.
We reads about
The Egyptian.
The Greek.
The Roman
The Vikings
The British
The French and so on .
Knowing all present day monarch in Europe are related to the English monarch and the true origin of today British queen is from the Vikings who invaded. Which today would also translate the queen of england today is from Denmark because that where his ancestors root heal from .
Yoruba people today i great and educated people but do not rewrite your history to suit you.
Yorobas also fail to understand the reason for their high population was deu to the ending of slave trade which left many captured but now free slaves to settle within the ife land and inter marriage adupted the language.
You're lost bro and so as culture too. When in history apart from the British you ever heard defeated Benin Empire you Bozo. Imagine Ife throne been running like politics and you still have the guts to come to disgrace yourself. Oduduwa is called Izoduwa and he's from Edo stop been delusional you cow
Ikaladeran did not "change" his name to Izoduwa. Izoduwa was the name his mother actually called him. He gave them that name to avoid being detected and also told them that his father was Ogiso (king of the sky), which made the yoruba believe that he came down from the sky. 😂😂😂 funny but true.
Hummmm i guess is bcs Oba Adeyeye is a young guy dats why different story every day o gaa ooo ,Kabieesi Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi (Omo luusi deeboye deebosura )ure a glorious Oba nobody can change it .
My friend pls.. Read ur history or discover before u talk..u don't just talk cos u don't like what he is saying..as an educated man/woman we verify but we can talk
Olugbo is the traitor not Moremi, says Ilaje paramount ruler
By Olatunde Adeyege
prominent Oba in Ilaje land, His Royal Majesty Oba Afolabi Odidiomo,
the Olu of Igbokoda has described the Olugbo of Ugboland, Oba Fredrick
Akinruntan as the traitor who out of greed, lust for women and inability
to keep secrets, betrayed the his people instead of attributing the act
of treachery to Moremi. He also described as false and misleading the
claim of Oba Akinruntan that he is the legitimate Ooni of Ile-Ife
“If
he is the Ooni, let him go to Ilfe ife and occupy the throne. He should
go their and chase the people away”, Oba Odidiomo said. Both Oba
Akinruntan and Oba Odidi occupy exalted royal seats in Ilaje. He advised
traditional rulers to watch what they say adding that at the moment,
the place of the Ooni in Yoruba and world history cannot be rubbished by
anyone.
The intervention of Oba Odidiomo is the most
profound coming from any prominent Oba in Ondo State where the Olugbo
comes from. He spoke with Irohinoodua in an exclusive interview today.
Oba
Odidiomo said the revelations of the prowess and sacred powers of the
Ugbo people to Moremi by the Olugbo was the height treachery against
sacred culture and norms of the Ugbo people which eventually led to the
defeat of the Ugbo.
“We must understand the dialectics
of history. Moremi had a mission to liberate his people. The Olugbo out
of his greed for women fell in love with her. He went ahead to reveal
the secrets of his people which was the height of betrayal. In Yoruba
culture, it is sacrilegious to reveal the secrets of the Oro to women,
but that was exactly what the Olugbo did. He therefore betrayed his
people. It was that betrayal by the Olugbo that led to the escape of a
sophisticated spy who had conducted espionage on the enemies of his
people. She left all the lucre and wealth she was offered by Ugbo to
return to her fatherland and even painfully sacrificed her only son as
promised’, the Oba said.
The raging controversy over the
role of Moremi in Yoruba history snowballed into another storm: Who is
the supreme Oba in Yorubaland?
Oba Odidiomo faulted the
claim of the Olugbo as the ‘real Ooni” saying that his accounts were
full of inaccuracies and incorrect claims.
He said the
title of the current Olugbo is “Obamakin” which negates the primacy of
“Orunmakin” adding that for the Olugbo to bear the title “Osangangan”
shows that the title came after the original accolade of “kutukutu”
which indicated the earliest of royal tradition. He said since the
Olugbo admitted that there were 13 automous Kingdoms at Ile-Ife at the
time, it was wrong for the Olugbo to lay claim to being the paramout
ruler when at the time there was no supreme community at Ife.
He
said the argument of the Olugbo was partly informed by his lack of
understanding of the fact that there were two epochs in Ife history,
being Ife Odeaye and Ife Ooye. He said Olugbo seems to be referring to a
period before the title Ooni was adopted at Ile Ife.
Oba
Odidi, the paramount ruler and prescribed authority of Igbokoda Ilaje
Kingdom declared that it was the Olugbo, who was a traitor and not
Moremi.
The Olugbo had earlier carpeted the Ooni of Ife,
His Imperial Majesty, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi, Ojaja II, for
honouring Moremi Ajasoro as a heroine and subsequently declared that he
was the original head of the early Ife Kingdom before the arrival of
Oduduwa and therefore, the rightful owner of the Ooni title.
Oba
Ogunwusi recently built a tower, described as the third highest in
Africa, in memory of Moremi Ajasoro, a wife of Ooni Oranyan who
sacrificed herself and her only child in exchange for freedom for her
people.
Oba Odidiomo argued that it was Olugbo who
actually gave out his own people by revealing the age-long tradition and
secrets of his own kingdom and people to a beautiful woman, out of
greed and covetousness.
According to the Igbokoda
monarch, the Ugbo raid on Ile-Ife which he claimed was masterminded by
the Olugbo was essentially to steal goods of Ife traders on market days
so as to have things to feed on.
“The Ugbo information
he gave out was a sacrilege. It was Olugbo that betrayed his people
through the classified information he divulged”, he said.
Oba
Odidiomo who queried Olugbo’s claim to supremacy disclosed that the
original title of the real Olugbo was ‘Kutukutu’ and not ‘Osangangan’,
adding that the latter was junior to the former.
“If
Olugbo said that there were 13 autonomous kingdoms in Ife at the time,
was Olugbo playing supervisory role over them?, he queried.
The Olu of Igbokoda observed that the Olugbo could not distinguish between Ife Oodaye and Ife Ooye.
Kutukutu
Orunmakin, he argued, meant “Heaven knows the brave” while Osangangan
Obamakin - king knows the brave - was a latter day king adding that
Olufe was the head of Ife Oodaye and not Olugbo.
Oba
Odidiomo said Igbokoda came from Mahin which is led by the most
respected Royal Oba Alametu of Mahin Kingdom. He said they all came from
Ora Quarters in Ile-Ife several centuries ago.
He is saying the fact
some of us that have Masters in Yoruba History knows that the Olugbo is saying the right thing, The Ooni should answer those questions of where Oduduwa comes from...The Oba of Benin too know that the Olugbo is right while the Ooni too knows but he will never Submit to this because it's an abomination
Father O'John master in Yoruba history,,listen yourself,,,why is it just now that ur bush king suddenly woke up from his ogogoro stupor and be uttering heresies,,,We in ife knows ur type and we will not honour with any response anymore,.Tell ur daydreaming olugbo to come and install himself in Ode or relocate his palace to ife it's then we would know he is really serious.nonsense
@Father O John, Olugbo is the traitor not Moremi, says Ilaje paramount ruler
By Olatunde Adeyege
prominent Oba in Ilaje land, His Royal Majesty Oba Afolabi Odidiomo,
the Olu of Igbokoda has described the Olugbo of Ugboland, Oba Fredrick
Akinruntan as the traitor who out of greed, lust for women and inability
to keep secrets, betrayed the his people instead of attributing the act
of treachery to Moremi. He also described as false and misleading the
claim of Oba Akinruntan that he is the legitimate Ooni of Ile-Ife
“If
he is the Ooni, let him go to Ilfe ife and occupy the throne. He should
go their and chase the people away”, Oba Odidiomo said. Both Oba
Akinruntan and Oba Odidi occupy exalted royal seats in Ilaje. He advised
traditional rulers to watch what they say adding that at the moment,
the place of the Ooni in Yoruba and world history cannot be rubbished by
anyone.
The intervention of Oba Odidiomo is the most
profound coming from any prominent Oba in Ondo State where the Olugbo
comes from. He spoke with Irohinoodua in an exclusive interview today.
Oba
Odidiomo said the revelations of the prowess and sacred powers of the
Ugbo people to Moremi by the Olugbo was the height treachery against
sacred culture and norms of the Ugbo people which eventually led to the
defeat of the Ugbo.
“We must understand the dialectics
of history. Moremi had a mission to liberate his people. The Olugbo out
of his greed for women fell in love with her. He went ahead to reveal
the secrets of his people which was the height of betrayal. In Yoruba
culture, it is sacrilegious to reveal the secrets of the Oro to women,
but that was exactly what the Olugbo did. He therefore betrayed his
people. It was that betrayal by the Olugbo that led to the escape of a
sophisticated spy who had conducted espionage on the enemies of his
people. She left all the lucre and wealth she was offered by Ugbo to
return to her fatherland and even painfully sacrificed her only son as
promised’, the Oba said.
The raging controversy over the
role of Moremi in Yoruba history snowballed into another storm: Who is
the supreme Oba in Yorubaland?
Oba Odidiomo faulted the
claim of the Olugbo as the ‘real Ooni” saying that his accounts were
full of inaccuracies and incorrect claims.
He said the
title of the current Olugbo is “Obamakin” which negates the primacy of
“Orunmakin” adding that for the Olugbo to bear the title “Osangangan”
shows that the title came after the original accolade of “kutukutu”
which indicated the earliest of royal tradition. He said since the
Olugbo admitted that there were 13 automous Kingdoms at Ile-Ife at the
time, it was wrong for the Olugbo to lay claim to being the paramout
ruler when at the time there was no supreme community at Ife.
He
said the argument of the Olugbo was partly informed by his lack of
understanding of the fact that there were two epochs in Ife history,
being Ife Odeaye and Ife Ooye. He said Olugbo seems to be referring to a
period before the title Ooni was adopted at Ile Ife.
Oba
Odidi, the paramount ruler and prescribed authority of Igbokoda Ilaje
Kingdom declared that it was the Olugbo, who was a traitor and not
Moremi.
The Olugbo had earlier carpeted the Ooni of Ife,
His Imperial Majesty, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi, Ojaja II, for
honouring Moremi Ajasoro as a heroine and subsequently declared that he
was the original head of the early Ife Kingdom before the arrival of
Oduduwa and therefore, the rightful owner of the Ooni title.
Oba
Ogunwusi recently built a tower, described as the third highest in
Africa, in memory of Moremi Ajasoro, a wife of Ooni Oranyan who
sacrificed herself and her only child in exchange for freedom for her
people.
Oba Odidiomo argued that it was Olugbo who
actually gave out his own people by revealing the age-long tradition and
secrets of his own kingdom and people to a beautiful woman, out of
greed and covetousness.
According to the Igbokoda
monarch, the Ugbo raid on Ile-Ife which he claimed was masterminded by
the Olugbo was essentially to steal goods of Ife traders on market days
so as to have things to feed on.
“The Ugbo information
he gave out was a sacrilege. It was Olugbo that betrayed his people
through the classified information he divulged”, he said.
Oba
Odidiomo who queried Olugbo’s claim to supremacy disclosed that the
original title of the real Olugbo was ‘Kutukutu’ and not ‘Osangangan’,
adding that the latter was junior to the former.
“If
Olugbo said that there were 13 autonomous kingdoms in Ife at the time,
was Olugbo playing supervisory role over them?, he queried.
The Olu of Igbokoda observed that the Olugbo could not distinguish between Ife Oodaye and Ife Ooye.
Kutukutu
Orunmakin, he argued, meant “Heaven knows the brave” while Osangangan
Obamakin - king knows the brave - was a latter day king adding that
Olufe was the head of Ife Oodaye and not Olugbo.
Oba
Odidiomo said Igbokoda came from Mahin which is led by the most
respected Royal Oba Alametu of Mahin Kingdom. He said they all came from
Ora Quarters in Ile-Ife several centuries ago.
God will bless you my bro
Go and get your PhD. It seems you still have a lot to learn.
There is fact in this. Slave can be king, if ur father is still alive, and people were in ife before oduduwa arrival. So how will he be king over Ife and beside were was oduduwa from
Now, responsible yoruba people are asking the right questions. I hope I get to see records get straightened in my days.
All yoruba history out there is not only contradictory but also confusing, especially when Oduduwa, Oronmiyan, or Olowo of Owo is mentioned. But when you take the Benin account, it is very straightforward with great clarity.
The man is right, the deception has got to end..Oduduwa is a Benin man..That is how come the Benin people sent for him to come back only for him to send his son/grandson Oranmiyan to Benin to start the Eweka dynasty..Oranmiyan;s coming to Benin is the clear explanation that Oduduwa is from Benin..And btw Oduduwa is even a Benin word which means I have come to redeem you..The myth that Oduduwa is the progenitor of yorubas is false..When Oduduwa arrived Ife he met a settlement there..It was only because Oduduwa was a prince in Benin that he was able to dazzle the people with his knowledge of magic, science, and the art of political governance that the people accepted him and crowned him their king and said he came from the sky..Indeed Oduduwa was an Ogiso in Benin, which means sky king..If there is anyone who knows the history of Benin and Ife and doubts that Oduduwa is from Benin that person needs his head examined..Truth is the Benin people knew all along that the Oduduwa thing was a charade but it wasnt untill the last Oba of Benin mentioned it in his book did it become official and public knowledge.
So you all knew it was a charade but you kept quiet until oba erediauwa just woke up to reverse what his ancestors, eye witness accounts and earlier traditions collected from benin states with no sources 😂😂 just imagination and fiction?
😂😂. Where is the evidence of all the nonsense you're saying. I will school you now.
I will start with ekaladerhan/izoduwa fiction. It was never known to benin until 1970s when chief omoregie stated that ekaladerhan whose story as written by egharevba and collected in the 1890s stated he died in ughatan(I have proof for all this just ask me so you can read😁). Now that ekaladerhan became oranmiyan and when are ba erediauwa was to write his book wrote that ekaladerhan was now oduduwa father of oranmiyan. It was obvious that because of politics of superiority and uniqueness what all have always known to be that ornamiyan from ife founded benin which egharevba wrote and which a lot of europeans collected from benin itself was subverted and changed in the 1970s.
Now to Oduduwa. Oduduwa is absolutely not a corruption, you can't just make assertions that are untrue. Oduduwa means odu to da uwa (the source or repository of existence). Moreover in benin, ugie oduduwa is celebrated and known not ugie izoduwa or ugie ekaladerhan. According to oral tradiotons he's from oke ora Hill a settlement just outside of ife. He cane to ife and fought of obatala and united ife into a kingdom. No tradition in ife has oduduwa from mecca or from benin.
The mecca hypothesis was as a result of sultan Bello of sokoto who gave middle eastern origins to a lot of ethnic groups around the river Niger. This was later atreibuted to oduduwa the patron of the yoruba and ife and popularized in academia. About the heaven hypothesis all heroes of ife at the time were deified as irunnoles who came from heaven. That cabln be said about the ogisos who came from heaven as well. It's a myth to honor them moreoev all humans are from heaven in yoruba spirituality. I'm sure all the other yoruba heroes and deities aren't from benjn as well right? Exactly that's how poor that logic is. Traditions state his human existence began at oke ora hill and then to ife.
@@toyosioyejobi309 bla bla ba.. Typical yoruba diversionary bullshit. You do this in everything..Even in politics.. Why are you voting for a senile old man who was a drug dealer and uses a stolen identity??? bla bla bla.. Its all bullshit and fallacy.. You are forcing a nonsensical conversation over something you know.. If your historians agree that Oduduwa isn't a native of Ife, then where the hell is he from??? Why does he go by a Benin name and his title Oghene(Ooni) is a Benin title???
I don't like having discussions with your type because you have absolutely no interest in the truth. You just come online to peddle bullshit
Yu are talking nonsense, and Olugbo is narrating rubbish, bogus rubbish.
@@toyosioyejobi309 listen to what this king is saying o. Before do your Yoruba thing (noise making)
I swear those colonial masters will never know peace. They really did an awesome job with that divide and rule element
They won't hear u sir..they claiming what does not belong to them..oduduwa came from igodomigodo but they will never accept it cos of pride ..good to see that even d ugbo is saying this....this king is saying d truth..let d oni or Yoruba tell us where oduduwa came from first with prove..
This is how to know bigots. Despite this king being mistaken and wrong, The said man in the interview is yoruba but you're still asking the yorubas to "come and tell you" . Do you really want to learn or you are just writing for writing sake. How many times will ooni come out to say oduduwa is from even if part of the origin is mythology, its been stated that he is from oke ora and his descendants founded benin. I will school you in the next comment
I will start with ekaladerhan/izoduwa fiction. It was never known to benin until 1970s when chief omoregie stated that ekaladerhan whose story as written by egharevba and collected in the 1890s stated he died in ughatan(I have proof for all this just ask me so you can read😁). Now that ekaladerhan became oranmiyan and when are ba erediauwa was to write his book wrote that ekaladerhan was now oduduwa father of oranmiyan. It was obvious that because of politics of superiority and uniqueness what all have always known to be that ornamiyan from ife founded benin which egharevba wrote and which a lot of europeans collected from benin itself was subverted and changed in the 1970s.
Now to Oduduwa. Oduduwa is absolutely not a corruption, you can't just make assertions that are untrue. Oduduwa means odu to da uwa (the source or repository of existence). Moreover in benin, ugie oduduwa is celebrated and known not ugie izoduwa or ugie ekaladerhan. According to oral tradiotons he's from oke ora Hill a settlement just outside of ife. He cane to ife and fought of obatala and united ife into a kingdom. No tradition in ife has oduduwa from mecca or from benin.
The mecca hypothesis was as a result of sultan Bello of sokoto who gave middle eastern origins to a lot of ethnic groups around the river Niger. This was later atreibuted to oduduwa the patron of the yoruba and ife and popularized in academia. About the heaven hypothesis all heroes of ife at the time were deified as irunnoles who came from heaven. That cabln be said about the ogisos who came from heaven as well. It's a myth to honor them moreoev all humans are from heaven in yoruba spirituality. I'm sure all the other yoruba heroes and deities aren't from benjn as well right? Exactly that's how poor that logic is. Traditions state his human existence began at oke ora hill and then to ife.
@@toyosioyejobi309quiet and listen to the King ❤
@@toyosioyejobi309the man is saying absolutely truth according to the Benin evidence
@@destarbestentertainment2411 Sorry I'm Educated. I don't do appeal to authority. I'm reasonable to actually read and question and establish facts. Telling me to shut up means there's a truth you are insecure to hear
No matter ur campaign of calumny you can't take the place of oni of ife. He is known and respected all over the world as the representatives of the Yoruba. The world and the Nigeria government will call him first when it come to national issues and even the world at large to represent us the Yoruba, know that and have peace cos that can never be altered.
you are trying to erase history. oduduwa met the people of ugbo kingdom in ILE-IFE. the true owners of ILE-IFE are the ugbo people (yoruba). don't be confused.
Ooni is not an oba, is a chief priest who preside over oodua shrine
What is Oo in yoruba language.
Olugbon of Ugbo, Akinrutan’s power drunk and suffering from acute-hallucinatory virus, claiming to be true Ooni of Ife.
Dr Payrick Kolawole Boboye
Kaabiye i have never in my life hard this but the story that we know told us about how Igbo that latter become Ugbo now started sir
The monarch is very right.The original occupier of the Yoruba race.May the ancestors come to your assistance
For some reason I resonate with this
tell me the story of orangun of ila please.
Proverbs 31:4-5 KJV[4] It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink: [5] Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
with all respect,,,then he should relocate his palace to Ife,,,and see what will be the consequence,,,,He should have told Ooni Sijuwadethis before he died,,,This King is not a serious monarch,,He is just been envious,,I rest my case.
If he took it to ice what will happened. Most of u don't know history that is why. Asked from what is saying from Benin people u will understand
They know the truth but they can't say it
This manner has taken enough Igbo means (Indian hemp) as his name sounds... Olugbo means The king of Igbo(india hemp) Lolz... that is why he came out publicly ranting rubbish. that was the power of Igbo for you
You're big fool
Please try to give King respect
😂😂😂😂😂you no well
Whether the words here are true or false, this history of Oduduwa is a topic that needs much more research. Not necessarily to decide the status of different Obas but to find the true history of the Yorubas which every Yoruba man must want to know. Oduduwa is claimed by so many, Yoruba and non Yoruba. The people that existed in Yoruba land before Oduduwa is another important topic of research. It is possible that these two groups were similar peoples who followed an established migration root to Ile-Ife. Iit is also possible they were totally different groups who in the end assimilated with each other. The accurate history is not to the benefit of Yoruba alone but to the benefit of the West African region and brother tribes that in current history are unknown to the Yoruba!!!!!!
Read My Comment Above Idonigbo Obu, We are From EPHRETH / IFE, in BETHLEHEM JUDA / JUDAH / YEHUDAH, in The Land of CANAAN / ISRAEL.
The big problem here is not lack of research. The big problem is that yorubas are lying to themselves. Oduduwa didn't land in so-called yoruba land. Oduduwa landed in a place called Ife.oduduwa brought everything that now form a major part of yoruba history today from Benin, i.e. the monarchy and the system of divination,ifa, which is known in Benin as Iha
The Yoruba people are be deceived by their rulers 😂😂😂, Oba Edo gha tor kpere Iseee ❤
It shows ile- ife existed before oduduwa came.. This have shown oduduwa is not a Yoruba man! He came from somewhere and that must be researched very well.
best comment here
Oduduwa is from Ife pls go to ife na!?
The oni of ife is a priest native doctor not oba, it's Awolowo who added oba to it
U said that....Ọọni had been existing before Awolowo was born ...oma ga bayi óò.
@@yemmietitilola2791 liar
I don't think your father told you the true story idiot which year did awolowo add oba to it
@@yemmietitilola2791nobody said he wasn’t existing but he was merely a chief priest and a custodian of the spirituality of Ife
This is distortion of history by Olugbo,manufacturing and vomiting rubbish to the public. This Oba really amazes me
Olugbo, are u now saying that you're bigger than Alaafin iku Baba Yeye?
King olugbo is saying the truth if u People care go back to history the benin have the real truth
Go back to which history?? 😂 😂 I find it laughable how people like you say history without referencing nothing. Just agenda and jealousy driven narratives. You'll be schooled soon
I will start with ekaladerhan/izoduwa fiction. It was never known to benin until 1970s when chief omoregie stated that ekaladerhan whose story as written by egharevba and collected in the 1890s stated he died in ughatan(I have proof for all this just ask me so you can read😁). Now that ekaladerhan became oranmiyan and when are ba erediauwa was to write his book wrote that ekaladerhan was now oduduwa father of oranmiyan. It was obvious that because of politics of superiority and uniqueness what all have always known to be that ornamiyan from ife founded benin which egharevba wrote and which a lot of europeans collected from benin itself was subverted and changed in the 1970s.
Now to Oduduwa. Oduduwa is absolutely not a corruption, you can't just make assertions that are untrue. Oduduwa means odu to da uwa (the source or repository of existence). Moreover in benin, ugie oduduwa is celebrated and known not ugie izoduwa or ugie ekaladerhan. According to oral tradiotons he's from oke ora Hill a settlement just outside of ife. He cane to ife and fought of obatala and united ife into a kingdom. No tradition in ife has oduduwa from mecca or from benin.
The mecca hypothesis was as a result of sultan Bello of sokoto who gave middle eastern origins to a lot of ethnic groups around the river Niger. This was later atreibuted to oduduwa the patron of the yoruba and ife and popularized in academia. About the heaven hypothesis all heroes of ife at the time were deified as irunnoles who came from heaven. That cabln be said about the ogisos who came from heaven as well. It's a myth to honor them moreoev all humans are from heaven in yoruba spirituality. I'm sure all the other yoruba heroes and deities aren't from benjn as well right? Exactly that's how poor that logic is. Traditions state his human existence began at oke ora hill and then to ife.
advance OGOGORO in action...
Ok. True students of history know that the Olugbo is actually right. It is not about envy or jealousy or anything of that sort. It is simply that Oduduwa, who was a prince in Igodomigodo (Benin), came to Ile Ife from Igodomigodo (Great Benin Kingdom) after being exiled as a result of a conspiracy that plotted to kill him because of a false testimony. He was the second son of Ogiso Owodo ( Sky king), his name was prince Ekhaladeran. He ran to Ife (west) from Benin (east) and settled in the bush (still in exile hiding). As time past, he was met by the original inhabitant of the land, the people of Ugbo (of whom Olugbo speaks of) who brought him out of the bush to be reverred because he was very strong and had magical powers which allowed him to do alot for the people there. Upon bringing him out of the forest to provide a safe haven for him, he was happy and said "Izoduwa" meaning "I have found the path to my wealth". That name was corrupted to be Oduduwa. Both Benin and Ife record this. The story of Lamurudu from Mecca is frankly bogus and untrue. The fact is Oduduwa cam from the east (Benin) and became crowned King in Ife because he was powerful and impressively mystical. So the Oduduwa referred to today is a son of a Sky King from Benin and Oromiyan his son is the father of Eweka 1 of Benin and also Oromiyan himself, after not being able to stay in Benin, moved to Ife and eventually became Alaafin of Oyo. I have this one question though... Why is it that the Ooni title is not hereditary? Isnt that strange? Benin will never give the throne to anyone but a direct descendant of the King i.e first son. Those who want to insult instead of studying history, go ahead.
U have said it all boss..they will never accept d truth cos of pride..
It is not anything of that sort it actually is. You're actually literally confessing to your jealousy 😂😂. Where is the evidence of all the nonsense you're saying. I will school you now.
I will start with ekaladerhan/izoduwa fiction. It was never known to benin until 1970s when chief omoregie stated that ekaladerhan whose story as written by egharevba and collected in the 1890s stated he died in ughatan(I have proof for all this just ask me so you can read😁). Now that ekaladerhan became oranmiyan and when are ba erediauwa was to write his book wrote that ekaladerhan was now oduduwa father of oranmiyan. It was obvious that because of politics of superiority and uniqueness what all have always known to be that ornamiyan from ife founded benin which egharevba wrote and which a lot of europeans collected from benin itself was subverted and changed in the 1970s.
Now to Oduduwa. Oduduwa is absolutely not a corruption, you can't just make assertions that are untrue. Oduduwa means odu to da uwa (the source or repository of existence). Moreover in benin, ugie oduduwa is celebrated and known not ugie izoduwa or ugie ekaladerhan. According to oral tradiotons he's from oke ora Hill a settlement just outside of ife. He cane to ife and fought of obatala and united ife into a kingdom. No tradition in ife has oduduwa from mecca or from benin.
The mecca hypothesis was as a result of sultan Bello of sokoto who gave middle eastern origins to a lot of ethnic groups around the river Niger. This was later atreibuted to oduduwa the patron of the yoruba and ife and popularized in academia. About the heaven hypothesis all heroes of ife at the time were deified as irunnoles who came from heaven. That cabln be said about the ogisos who came from heaven as well. It's a myth to honor them moreoev all humans are from heaven in yoruba spirituality. I'm sure all the other yoruba heroes and deities aren't from benjn as well right? Exactly that's how poor that logic is. Traditions state his human existence began at oke ora hill and then to ife.
You are very correct
thank you for telling them the truth, they will never accept.
This King is trying to cede the Ooni's throne to Benin so that yorubas will accept him. Even his own father before him never dared this madness! The self crowned Ogiamien in Benin also attempted to cede the Oba of Benin throne to Ife to gain acceptance in Bini and turn them against the Oba. Both attempts have failed woefully. However, the Olugbo is a recognised monarch in yoruba land. His place in history is known. He is just not what he says he is
You're one of the smartest people so far I've seen
It's just a battle of ego and we wonder why Africa fell to the euroepans like a pack of cards. The oyo too used to have a propaganda against ife and the ooni.
While it's true that ife founded benin monarchy the reality is that oba of benin has full rights there moreover even from early records and writings the ogisos themselves were sent from ife. So the ogiamen maybe indigenous to benin are a product of the ogiso system established by ife so there's no fight there.
On the oduduwa one, tradiotons state clearly he is from oke ora. All deified humans are from heaven and the mecca hypothesis is a romanticed external link not what ife ever said
He is everything he claim to be, the yorubas are just too blind to accept, you betrayed your ruler in favour of a foreigner and stupidly attribute your existence to that foreigner. Why because he had powers or mystical endowment? Oduduwa was a foreigner and oni throne isn't a monarch but an appointment.
If you can’t answer the simple questions he asked then it is you who is wrong, nothing is unquestionable except it’s lies that has to be protected!
@@toyosioyejobi309ogiso dynasty predates Ife, cut the crap
@@swain4971oni is a regent of oduduwa. He is not a biological son of oduduwa. ooni confirmed it that he is a regent of odua
Everybody claim Ile-Ife Iku Baba HRH Oba Lamidi Alafin of Oyo is Alive to Clear this message . Oba Sijuade (RIP). was on the Throne this OLugbo OF Ugboland is making big mistake.The custodial of Yoruba Oba Enitan Adeyeye Oni of Ife, ignore this attention seeker from Village Olugbo . Yoruba people understand them with too much drink of Ogogoro .Yoruba are waiting for him to come and crown himself in Ile-Ife .
lol people of d world the truth is bitter
I kept telling everyone that everything about Ile ife is a lie.
Oluwasey…. : You knew this man was telling the truth that, Ile Ife belongs to Ugbo people that resides somewhere in Ilaje, Ondo State:
Questions:
1. Why would Yoruba people of Ile-Ife ran for the intruder neighboring Ugbo people which look like iwin before Moremi gave herself to be captured and enslaved to the king of Ugbo kingdom??
2. The rest of the story are not obscured to all Yorubas includes Ugbo people in Ilaje L.G.
3. Based on Moremi story, who owned Ife and who are the neighboring intruders that made Moremi to be legend as the history narrated the story.
PRESS RELEASE
BUT, WHO IS OLUGBO TO DESERVE A RESPONSE?
OBA OLADAPO OLAFIRANYE
OBA OSOGUN AGBAYE
OKEMOGUN
ILE IFE.
As the custodian and living spirit of ogun (the pace setter among the dieties in yoruba land), i have a responsibility to educate and enlighten individuals and or groups that may want to turn down the history, culture and tradition of the yoruba people.This is because ogun saw it all! It is for this reason that i consider it appropriate to respond to the disparaging statement on aspects of yoruba history credited in this instance to Oba Fredrick Akinrutan Obateru, Olugbo of Ugbo land.The monarch in recent times has embarked on self-delusion with regards to his status and position among the traditional rulers in yoruba land,among other erroneous postulationscoming from the Olugbo' palace. Also he dishonestly condemned the celebrationof Moremi as a patriotic heroine by the good people of Ile Ife . My first impression to this untoward outburst was to ask the pertinent questions: (a)who is olugbo to deserve a response? (b)what led to their emigration away from Ile-ife?The controversial Obateru should endeavor to find out.An acclaimed yoruba king, Olugbo of Ugbo,Obateru Akinruntan whose mentality has misled him into distorting history and by extension, ife history. it is disheartening to hear a yoruba Oba being extremely ignorant of the history just like a sectional king in ilaje local government area of ondo state.Without justification, how could somebody in his right senses claim that moremi Ajasoro is not an heroine while the brave woman is regularly celebrated all over for her effort in bringing freedom to the source.In another sense, olugbo, a sectional baale(in real hierarchy) intends to undermine our most revered father, Ooni Adeyeye by ignorantly challenging the monarchial stool of Ooni. How on earth could somebody claim to be more catholic than pope? Obateru is an attention seeker indeed.This man, a conflict maker categorically stated that the Ugbos are the aboriginal settlers and owners of ife! A sharp response to this would trigger ones thought of asking who his father was?As in all yoruba lands, the most important of our sources of ile-ife history are orally transmitted(Biobaku 1992). Thus, we ask Obateru of the pedigree of his father that orally transmitted the history to him?It is on record that Obateru was born 1950into the family of fredrick adetolugbo but unfortunately, his father died 1964 when he was 14 years old. So, it is not too astonishing how he could have gone astray on history as his arrogance could have perhaps engendered elderly curse to accelerate his playing to the gallery.Someone that lacks parental guides and guard should not be scold for saying ooni should not have a father.
how could we assist a man who said that Oduduwa was not part of yoruba? how could we address him when he proclaimed that it was Osangangan Obamakin, son of oranfe that founded ile- ife? how do we start to educate an acclaimed man who lamented that his forefather of his throne descended from heaven, and that is why they were called Ugbo Atorunwo, whose mentality accommodation has been eroded than a man who challenged Oonirisa to confirm his ancestral root?
To set the record straight,i am really not sure of the state of mental affairs of the Obateru Akinrutan else i would have started educating a mediocre. i hereby urge the Olugbo in council to institute a step towards examining the mental psychology of obateru perhaps through psychiatric experts at Aro in Abeokuta of Ogun state. May i urge that you should not see this clarion call as insult but rather an affectionate and passionate call to rescue a fellow.
For the record, i will like to state that certain rebellious group was displaced in ile ife at the dawn of a new era. this displaced group of people eventually settled at iwinrin/igbo igbo, where they became wild and call themselves ugbo. when they were threatened by famine, the began to behave like hawk like bird which goes by the name igbo, well known for his aggressive nature. those who are very close to the elderly persons in yoruba land would have been told that whenever Igbo bird approaches other birds, the latter will disperse for fear of attack. Hence the yoruba maxim that "igbo wonu eye ki eye tuka" meaning the presence of igbo bird disperses other bird. it was this disruptive nature that the refuge group adopted in their attack on ife township in search of what to eat to survive. in an effort to put an end to the incessant raid, a valiantwoman by name moremi Ajasoro, after seeking the consent of her husband who was then the Ooni of ife deployed her diplomatic prowess by given herself up for capturingby the marauding beasts. this tactic of the stunning woman led to their conquest of the men from the bush. those who were captured during the surprise counter attack were given state pardon and resettled within ile-ife township.
From the above, it would seem that someone is turning history upside down to consider as an act of betrayal, the sagacity, valor and intrepidity of moremi Ajasoro. it is important to note that those who were captured and resettled among the igbo invaders could today be found in compounds within iremo quarters of ile- ife. thus, if anyone from anywhere now found it necessary to seek relevance by connecting himself with ile ife, it should not be at the expense of our cherished history.
However, it is very bad for people of riverine area of Ondo state to have had the likes of Obateru Akinruntan as Oba. this is because every traditional ruler in yoruba land necessarily passed through certain process of tutelage before they finally assume the throne of their forefather, this i doubt happened in the case of the incumbent Olugbo. this is affecting his sense of reasoning. it is a bad omen for a supposed Oba to not just think but said openly that Obas dont have biological father, what a poor student of history is this man! on this particular issue, i consider it as a threat of attack on the father of our Ooni who by the special grace of olodumare is still hale and healthy. i would like to seriously warn olugbo to stop forth with such thought. any attempt on the life of prince oluropo ogunwusi-the father of Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi, or any member of his household will be disastrous for him and everything connected to him.
Ogun disapproves threat to life and by himself, is not use to make empty threat. those who are close to fredrick Obateru Akinruntan should speak to him on his listening ears. ife does not and will never allow anyone to smear the sacred Ooni. i think this man has forgotten so quickly that it took the intervention of the late Ooni of ife- Oba Sijuwade Okunade to have him installed some four miles away from his town. it seems he has forgotten too that Ooni Sijuwade Okunade ordered his crown to be removed publicly to the admiration of those in attendance. how ungrateful can this man be for insulting the personality of his benefactor? it is for this, i said earlier that it does not worth it to reply to the ranting of an ungrateful mind.
Sincerely, i will want for say that Akinruntan's vituperation was as a result of his lack of historical facts because it has been established that his forefathers were irresponsible and wayward sons who choose to destroy their father's house. if he traces his dirty steps, better for him, but if he persists, this piece should be considered as an introduction.
hmmm
Oduduwa is from Benin..a Benin prince..
Yorubas fight about culture, Hausa-Fulanis fight about religion. Igbos are only concerned about excellence. Nigeria as presently constituted is a big stumbling block for Biafrans, but we shall overcome!
Nonsense. Which Ibo are writing about? You must be kidding. Every tribes in Nigeria, actually in the world have their issues.
if the king says He's tbe owner of yoruba, how n why? This must have something to do with Oranfe n the title kutukutu never gave up. instead he remains a king in new ugboland he just founded. teach me history, is this info right?
Thank you Olugbo. God wants to use you to reveal the truth. We of ife ancestry are not yorubas but Ife/IVRI better known as the Hebrews. The prophecy was true that we shall not know ourselves. It is true that we were in Egypt ,our ancestors were taken captives in Assyria as confirmed by the Aalafin of Judah/ Oyo. Our language is not yoruba but ife/ivri/Hebrew as confirmed by the hebrew inscription on Oranmiya staff in ile ife. Sultan Bello also confirmed that we are remnants of the Children of Canaan. Yarba was used to identify us by the then fulanis which is a derogatory word meaning bastards as confirmed by the prophecy and now confirmed by Olugbo in this interview. I know who we are.
Some of us knows that he is saying the truth, Ooni should defend those questions with solid answer
Elizabeth Folorunsho
+elizabeth you are going mad, My ancestors are not hebrews. Yoruba have nothing to do with The middle east
@Elizabeth Folorunsho Love this my sister!!! This is very symbolic and in part funny. It is like saying blar, blar, blar they the ilfe are blarring. It is a shame that the ilefe cannot agree and take into account their true history as concerning Izoduwa and Omonoyan. It is not late for them instilling that fact of Ekaladeran - Izoduwa- Omonoyan on their people and children coming up. They are going to continue living a society completely void of their tangible history and that leaves them daily on false identity.
As Marcus Garvey stated...."A people without knowledge of their history, origin and culture is like a tree without root"
Every tom, dick and Harry with their own agenda from the fart of their ass
He is kinda right to some extent, definitely we not from Meca, there is some facts we from Egypt or Ethiopia.. a lot of Yoruba language has similarities to ancient Hebrews language . That's the language they spoke in Egypt
nothing links yoruba to egypt or hebrew. we are full saharan africans
mark faleye No I strongly contest that. The Yoruba DNA has some Asiatic origin or ancient Egyptian origin in it I can certainly say that most Subsaharan tribes travelled southwards from North Africa mostly through Egypt ,i have full evidence based on multiple research a Canadian Institute has carried out repeatedly
Ade Jami I will not Contest that because when the Assyrian empire and the Babylonian Empire conquered Israel alot of Hebrews fled to Egypt in fact prophet Jeremiah was among such.Many years later in 70 A.D when the Romans led by General Pompeii lay siege to Jerusalem over One million Jews fled to africa, according to Historians like Herotodus and Josephus......The real Hebrews are not white people,The are either brown Colored or Orientals or Black
miceley I know what ancient Hebrews were , they definitely were not white, cos they called their Land kemet, which means the land of the blacks in ancient Hebrew language
Ade Jami yes I Can prove that Jesus Christ was not white either.Europeans has been spreading that lie for two thousand years now
Oni of Ife is not an Oba. He is the custodian of the ancient throne and shrines of Oduduwa. So there is no Oba in Ile Ife. There is Onirisa. Alagbara awon OSHA.
So called Oduduwa met people at Ife. Not all Yorubas are descendant of Odu'a.
He needs to go back to skool and learn the History of yoruba..... Oduduwa was never the father of yoruba's .. He was graced with the tittle cos he thought them loads of things they nothing about... He was crowned as the Oba of Ife cos of hes great attribute to the Kingdom... Moran.....
You claim the benin came from ile ife,
An sure the question to the yorobas
Where does oduduwa come from?
What does oduduwa mean in yoruba.
Who was his father ?
What evidence are there of his origin?
We know the yorobas as well educated today but dont fool your self and your kids the privilege of knowing the true history of your people by trying to rewrite your history to suit your self.
Before oduduwa the benin had a well organized kingship recorded known as the ogisa ( king from the sky). Which was already hereditary. So the question of hereditary has been solved for the edos.
Was there any hereditary rule of kingship before oduduwa arrival to ife ?
To my understanding he created the kingship hereditary in ife.
Upon oduduwa arival to ife Your history recorded an oracle foresaw the arrival of a stranger who will lead the people who became know as ile ife.
Benin believe oduduwa changes his name to izoduwa on arrival to ife after been accepted and welcome to bw one of them.
Izoduwa in benin mean ( i have chosen the part of greatness)
Yoruba also claimed he came from the sky. Which to my understanding the ife may have misinterpreted him saying his father was the ogiso which translate him been the prince or king from the sky.
The name ile ife was the new name the yoroba people became know as.
Ile ife in edo mean ( through runing i became rich) which can be argued. a prince runing for his life finding a new settlement and made king explains the new name.
Yorobas claim the edo people known as ( igodomigodo ) came to ife to ask for a king.
But failed to clarify the relationship between the edo and the yorobas.
My question what was the relationship betweenthe ifes and edos. Before oduduwa? Was there any.?
Why would the ife king allow his son to go with strangers to a new kingdom.?
Did oduduwa know the edo elders before?
Its strange , i would believe a wise man like oduduwa would not have allowed his son to go to a none known land.
To conclude a little of vas fact .
The edo (igodomigodo) had a long history of hereditary ruler long before the oduduwa hereditary rule in ife.
Edo who had practice hereditary kings would not have come to ife who had just started their to ask foe guidance except the edo knew oduduwa as the prince that fled for his safety.
History is beautiful but please do not rewrite it to suit you because you see your self superior now.
Today history teaches us of kings and kingdoms that have been lost in time we should be grateful our history and culture still lives.
We reads about
The Egyptian.
The Greek.
The Roman
The Vikings
The British
The French and so on .
Knowing all present day monarch in Europe are related to the English monarch and the true origin of today British queen is from the Vikings who invaded. Which today would also translate the queen of england today is from Denmark because that where his ancestors root heal from .
Yoruba people today i great and educated people but do not rewrite your history to suit you.
Yorobas also fail to understand the reason for their high population was deu to the ending of slave trade which left many captured but now free slaves to settle within the ife land and inter marriage adupted the language.
who is the father of Yoruba plz?
He is also saying d same thing..why would a stranger be a king.over ife, thatt is why some ife citizens did not claim oduduwa as their king.. Oduduwa came from Benin as facts ..d Yoruba's will never agree to it.
WHERE WAS OLUGBO WHEN OBA ENITAN WAS CROWNED AS OONI OF IFE, WHY DIDNT HE SAYS THESE BEFORE THE CORONATION OF OONI OF IFE, EGBINRIN OTE " RE OOOO.
Funmi Falajiki
Funmi Falajiki
Funmi Falajiki yes ooo my brother. Yoruba pelu ote olorun a ko wa yo o
Confused story
Oduduwa is the son of the King of Benin .the ogiso knone as sky King . His Benin name is prince ikaladeran,idoduwa. Ooni of Ife knows he is a descendent of Benin he even came to Benin to get his wife ..so is the oba of Lagos they are bout the descendent of great Benin kings ...if you denied this claim go ahead and let's Dna " be the prove of their origin period.
We don't know Ekhaladerhan! Your historian mentions that he established his civilisation in Ughonton. Why didn't Oduduwa tell our ancestors this story? If indeed, Oduduwa was an Ogiso prince, why did he not establish an Ogiso dynasty in Ife? How come a new dynasty was established with the arrival of Oranmiyan in Igodomigodo? DNA evidence and the divine secrets will open the veil on this. Both Ife and Bini kings have access to the divinities.
@@husseintiamiyu2009 he was arbic not bini in them days there was black people in mecca but slave trade I happend and they kicked black people out
Point of correction, Oduduwa didn’t come to Benin to get his wife, rather his son oranmiyan, who found an igbo wife in the land called Benin today and they both gave birth to a child that became the first recognized King of Benin. The son is an Halfcast, half Yoruba & half igbo! 😅
@@unbeatabledjstone8580 yeye..them dey talk better u dey talk another thing
@@unbeatabledjstone8580 mugu... U r funny
Funfact: This man shouldn't even be the Olugbo of Ugbo
Olugbo of ugbo is the aboriginal owner of ile ife and also the kayibesi of yoruba land not ooni, ooni is a religious chief priest of ifa not king.
All this are funfact . A concrete profound history needs to be made to change the narrative, not riddles that we have fed of for long. Benin can say whatever when all we have are riddles. There are thousands of years interval between obatala &oduduwa ,but all we are hearing is obatala was sent slept while been drank then oduduwa took over the task. Is this a history or ifa jesture, riddles when we all know that oduduwa didn’t know or see obatala in his life time. By now kabiesi is talking about comparing notes.
Hmmm Yoruba Ronu. Let me start from Oduduwa Olofin Agbaye, he is the father to all Yoruba, yes he met the Ugbo people whom later learn yoruba language, Odua afewonro is the founder to all yoruba, the title Ooni of ife started from Osangangan Obamakin the abore to Oduduwa who took over Oduduwa position since all his children had been king in their own land. To Olugbo of Ugbo do you expect Ooni to challenge Oba of benin if what his saying is true or not. The question u need to ask Oba of benin is who is the first King of benin land Eweka who is the father to Eweka Oranmiyan n who is the father to Oranmiyan Oduduwa. Back to Olugbo of Ugbo when Oduduwa was a King in ile ife, there was nothing like king in Ugbo as Oduduwa is the first King in Yoruba land. You all need to stop this hatred and come together as one.
And Oduduwa is from Benin know to the Benin people as Elkaladeran
Well for your information the first KING in BENIN is OGISO obagodo and (ogiso) meaning sky king okay, Know this and know peace .
If the title Ooni started with osangangan obamakin, what was the title of oduduwa.
2. What does Oo stand or represent in yoruba because oni in yoruba mean crocodile
If the title Ooni started with osangangan obamakin, what was the title of oduduwa.
2. What does Oo stand or represent in yoruba because oni in yoruba mean crocodile
If the title Ooni started with osangangan obamakin, what was the title of oduduwa.
2. What does Oo stand or represent in yoruba because oni in yoruba mean crocodile
He is a bloody liar. His forefathers were not even a chief in Ile -Ife then. His forefathers were among the ppl sent out of Ife because they antagonised the reign of Oduduwa. Oduduwa did not come from ugbo. Stop all these lies, you are a king. Why could n't you say this during the reign of Sijuwade? The present Ooni is younger than you and you are jealous of him. Ooni Ogunwusi is highly intelligent and matured minded, he would not go and argue anywhere. Olugbo, you should stop it now.
Ojo wo Leda yo simi ogun, igba wo lote yo dohun itan o!
Unn! The Fulani’s are planning to encroach and dominate Yoruba land and some insensitive and insensible individuals in position are busy diverting attention to unnecessary stories. Is this what Yoruba’s need at this crucial time. Instead for the Yoruba Kings to come together and strategise on how our race will be safe from external aggression, the feeble minded are going about telling useless stories of tortoise and monkey. What a shame!
E tire me o! Who needs all these stories, when we should be fighting against oppositions such as fulanis. O sunmi o!
Innkan nbe.oriisirisi
kini isoro baba yi o. he never came out when the late oni was alive, abi. se becos the oni is a young and vibrant oba? baba, e lola sempe o. e jeki omo Kekere jaye oooo
Go and dethrone the Ooni and install yourself there now.
I will start with ekaladerhan/izoduwa fiction. It was never known to benin until 1970s when chief omoregie stated that ekaladerhan whose story as written by egharevba and collected in the 1890s stated he died in ughatan(I have proof for all this just ask me so you can read😁). Now that ekaladerhan became oranmiyan and when are ba erediauwa was to write his book wrote that ekaladerhan was now oduduwa father of oranmiyan. It was obvious that because of politics of superiority and uniqueness what all have always known to be that ornamiyan from ife founded benin which egharevba wrote and which a lot of europeans collected from benin itself was subverted and changed in the 1970s.
Now to Oduduwa. Oduduwa is absolutely not a corruption, you can't just make assertions that are untrue. Oduduwa means odu to da uwa (the source or repository of existence). Moreover in benin, ugie oduduwa is celebrated and known not ugie izoduwa or ugie ekaladerhan. According to oral tradiotons he's from oke ora Hill a settlement just outside of ife. He cane to ife and fought of obatala and united ife into a kingdom. No tradition in ife has oduduwa from mecca or from benin.
The mecca hypothesis was as a result of sultan Bello of sokoto who gave middle eastern origins to a lot of ethnic groups around the river Niger. This was later atreibuted to oduduwa the patron of the yoruba and ife and popularized in academia. About the heaven hypothesis all heroes of ife at the time were deified as irunnoles who came from heaven. That can be said about the ogisos who came from heaven as well. It's a myth to honor them moreoev all humans are from heaven in yoruba spirituality. I'm not sure all the other yoruba heroes and deities aren't from benjn as well right? Exactly that's how poor that logic is. Traditions state his human existence began at oke ora hill and then to ife he fought off the obatala Faction and united ife and became the first oghone/oone/ooni olofin adimula. Obatala descendants later led a migration to the ugbo area in ondo state and ancestors to olugbo who is a full yoruba king in his own right so no need for all this
I think one thing is sure, the stories all have elements of truth to it, apart from the descent part. That part has no corroboration from many sources. The part that is not denied is the existing fights and factions of several kingdoms all connected. It's unfortunate that we could not write down our histories in the 13/14 hundred. Imagine all that we have lost because we could only tell our ancient history by word of mouth passed from one generation to the other in all its corruptions.
@@jamessmith8049 That's always my pain. The heaven origin is a common one in yoruba culture for not just all deified beings but even normal humans but people in the present might not know this. It's similar to Alexander the great being a son of a god doesn't mean he didn't exist.
But they're obvious lies which can be seen and a good example is the ekaladerhan to oduduwa fiction. When benin tradiotons were first collected ekaladerhan died in ughatan, egharevba benins first historian corroborated this as well.
It wasn't until 1970s just after the mid West Western region split we start to see the whole thing turned on its head
@@toyosioyejobi309 You are right, every poly/monotheistic practice at its focal point wants to go where the gods/angels roam free with God, the supreme being. I think we can agree it has been a sad state to have lost so much of our history. What we can all agree on is that no one could read/write in any form across the Benin or Yoruba languages. If we are to believe the Mecca/Eqypt/Black Pharaoh origins of Yoruba father, the person that Eledumare gave Ade are, then he didn't come with the magic of writing.
The victors here are the same colored people who came and conquer the Aztecs to nothing. The Aztec kings were believed to be sons of God. You can see the similarity with our own Kings in the kingdoms I hope. The victor were aliens, white skined, have a staff that spits fire out of a small hole and when point and explodes heads in a pool of blood (aramanda oko tin tenu jo bula, loruko ti an pe ibon!). These aliens were victorious over all of Africa, the colonies, and the Commonwealth.
As we lack the know-how to write, we claimed ogun invented or owned guns obviously🤣😂🙃, although earlier all he knew was cutlass to carve the road for the other gods.
This man should be told the truth,,,I am Yoruba and one ilaje man can not wake up and be telling me what even an idiot knows is a big Lie,,delusional and day dreaming,,you tube should delete this heresy.
you are the one that don't know what you are saying...Ooni, oba of Benin and Alafin knows that Olugbo is saying the right thing
If you are yoruba nd you don't know the true story of yoruba means you are a big fool
If you are yoruba nd you don't know the true story of yoruba means you are a big fool
Let them come and defend theirself
The Yorubas is the tribe of Judah .
And Oduduwa is a title that was given to Orunmila same soul that came as Ela-Oro.
The Yorubas tribe of Judah the head tribe of the children of Israel after the Assyrian and Babylonia captivities some fled to Saudi Arabia and when they are been persecuted by the Arab prophet Mohammed was when most fled to part of east Africa and to west Africa because they served many centuries in their captivity the more reason some Yoruba says they are from Mecca and some say that are the children of Lamurudu who is nimrod the Babylonia .
The Yoruba are the descendants of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
Please Obas in Yoruba land get your information right.
OLUGBO TI MUGBO YO OWA UNSO KANTAN KANTAN LENU , OBA ONI YEYE
But ooni (ogunwusi) of ife still have a father is dat not abomination
Hummm this man is just talking out of maturity,he is just talking like a fool.And people we still be celebrating this he-goat as There king.
There is no mecca during oduduwa time. Mecca is no even in koran. Petra is where prophet mohammed existed not mecca. Mecca is a new land. This is a fact. Oranfe is the owner of ile ife
In every dispensation there will always be somebody that will yield himself as instrument in the hand of Satan,,,This is what envy and inferiority complex can cause,,Let him and his Benin collaborators go to hell and the great people of Yoruba and will defeat this buffoon and we would banish him to where he belongs,NonsenseNigerian security services must call this clown to order or better still dethrone him before he finally hit the street.
why can't you do so
Somebody that can not even express himself in simple Yoruba language,,,shame,shame and again shameful,,This man has ruin his legacy for life with simple lack of jealousy and envy management.I use to think he is an intelligent human being.
na wa for this man o.
this olugbo king just dey kick dust all week . he was to fight the new onni. olugbo should stop his aggression, and instead join the new onni in his quest for better Nigeria.
Before the ugbo people in ife they are many tribe are there before them what about ife atapkame ugbo are the numbers three tribe in Ile ife they are not frist there leader is osagagan obamakin of olu ugbo oduduwa is number four settle in Ile ife. They send obamakin out of town Ile ife before is ife wada oduduwa is from Ile ife his father name is abure omo oni ife oni is abore of oduduwa. Alot of tribe living in Ile ife before like igbo isekiri ijew and urobo before Ile ife is about ten thousand year old
please tell the king of village to come an tell alafin iku baba yeye alafi ikejiorisha he we death b4 21days
ENITI WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, ARE ADEDOYIN NO2.
Oba Jack Daniels
This man stop smoking ur weed
the story of lamurudu as the father of oduduwa is completely correct! lamurudu is Nimrod.....Nimrod is black, he is the son of cush who is the son of ham who is the son of Noah.... history told that Noah had three sons. and every history revealed that ham was a black man, infact Shem was too. cush the son of ham was black, infact that is the meaning of the name cush. cush is the father of Nimrod( lamurudu) and lamurudu is the father of oduduwa. when history said Mecca, it doesn't mean The country Saudi Arabia, it referred to that region. I think a Yoruba king is supposed to know better, but he seems to be both ignorant and stubborn at the same time. what a clueless attention seeker!
Toyosi Ijato absolutely right we migrate from what the Western world called middle east cos all that region was part of Africa during the medieval period before European bring the new map and called it Middle East
shut up your mouth. lamurudu doesn't exist. Oduduwa is from Ido in Osun
Biggest LIE Ever TOLD, The Yorubas are not From Mecca/Lamurudu. YORUBAS, Are From EPHRETH / IFE, in BETHLEHEM JUDA/JUDAH/YEHUDAH, in The Region of CANAAN/ISRAEL. It has been Scientifically Proven, That The YORUBA'S Are the Oldest Human Race. Everything about the YORUBAS are Mysterious. The mysterious mention of The Area of EPHRETH / IFE, is in the Prophecy of Micah 5 v 2. Read the Following Chapters and Verses to give You Clues. Genesis 49 v 24. Genesis 49 v 26. Ezekiel 37 v 16 - 17. Deuteronomy 33 v 16 - 17. Another EPHRETHITE, Was JESSE, The Father of KING DAVID. I did Many Research and Prayers, to Discover This Truth. Talk of Our ORISHA'S Who Came, The OGUN, SHANGO, OSHUN, YEMOJA, OYA, e.t.c. These are JUDAH/YEHUDAH/EPHRETH Warriors People. Do Your Own Research, and You will Find the Truth. Shalom.
You don't know what u are saying. How many version of the origin of oduduwa will you people coined.
Are telling me that oduduwa existed before jesus christ era
olugbo is under the Influence of ogogoro or regal gin
Akindoyin Olawale Mark 😂😂
In actuality he is under the influence of money. He's the richest king in Africa or second richest. No wonder he thinks he should be Oni. One of the most respected kings in the world.
😂😂😂😂😂
twisted history Olugbo you are wrong
This man is getting mad
Then Italians clear America...fools take Lagos to Benin.
This not true
Who the heck is this rabble-rouser?...And in which state is the village of ugboland....Attention seeker.
Google abt Obat oil and the second richest king in Africa
Father O'John Richest king in his bush,,who cares about this nincompoop?He that attacks the Yoruba will pay dearly for it,,moremi ajashoro taught ur Randy ancestors bitter lesson and history Can still repeat itself,,ile oodua a gbe wa oh and let d pharaohs perish in their alcohol and disease ridden riverine area,nonsense,,,Oonirisa for life,,,arole oodua worldwide. Envy yi po : )
Father O'John ,
who Odua linage don help for Naija?
PRESS RELEASE
BUT, WHO IS OLUGBO TO DESERVE A RESPONSE?
OBA OLADAPO OLAFIRANYE
OBA OSOGUN AGBAYE
OKEMOGUN
ILE IFE.
As the custodian and living spirit of ogun (the pace setter among the dieties in yoruba land), i have a responsibility to educate and enlighten individuals and or groups that may want to turn down the history, culture and tradition of the yoruba people.This is because ogun saw it all! It is for this reason that i consider it appropriate to respond to the disparaging statement on aspects of yoruba history credited in this instance to Oba Fredrick Akinrutan Obateru, Olugbo of Ugbo land.The monarch in recent times has embarked on self-delusion with regards to his status and position among the traditional rulers in yoruba land,among other erroneous postulationscoming from the Olugbo' palace. Also he dishonestly condemned the celebrationof Moremi as a patriotic heroine by the good people of Ile Ife . My first impression to this untoward outburst was to ask the pertinent questions: (a)who is olugbo to deserve a response? (b)what led to their emigration away from Ile-ife?The controversial Obateru should endeavor to find out.An acclaimed yoruba king, Olugbo of Ugbo,Obateru Akinruntan whose mentality has misled him into distorting history and by extension, ife history. it is disheartening to hear a yoruba Oba being extremely ignorant of the history just like a sectional king in ilaje local government area of ondo state.Without justification, how could somebody in his right senses claim that moremi Ajasoro is not an heroine while the brave woman is regularly celebrated all over for her effort in bringing freedom to the source.In another sense, olugbo, a sectional baale(in real hierarchy) intends to undermine our most revered father, Ooni Adeyeye by ignorantly challenging the monarchial stool of Ooni. How on earth could somebody claim to be more catholic than pope? Obateru is an attention seeker indeed.This man, a conflict maker categorically stated that the Ugbos are the aboriginal settlers and owners of ife! A sharp response to this would trigger ones thought of asking who his father was?As in all yoruba lands, the most important of our sources of ile-ife history are orally transmitted(Biobaku 1992). Thus, we ask Obateru of the pedigree of his father that orally transmitted the history to him?It is on record that Obateru was born 1950into the family of fredrick adetolugbo but unfortunately, his father died 1964 when he was 14 years old. So, it is not too astonishing how he could have gone astray on history as his arrogance could have perhaps engendered elderly curse to accelerate his playing to the gallery.Someone that lacks parental guides and guard should not be scold for saying ooni should not have a father.
how could we assist a man who said that Oduduwa was not part of yoruba? how could we address him when he proclaimed that it was Osangangan Obamakin, son of oranfe that founded ile- ife? how do we start to educate an acclaimed man who lamented that his forefather of his throne descended from heaven, and that is why they were called Ugbo Atorunwo, whose mentality accommodation has been eroded than a man who challenged Oonirisa to confirm his ancestral root?
To set the record straight,i am really not sure of the state of mental affairs of the Obateru Akinrutan else i would have started educating a mediocre. i hereby urge the Olugbo in council to institute a step towards examining the mental psychology of obateru perhaps through psychiatric experts at Aro in Abeokuta of Ogun state. May i urge that you should not see this clarion call as insult but rather an affectionate and passionate call to rescue a fellow.
For the record, i will like to state that certain rebellious group was displaced in ile ife at the dawn of a new era. this displaced group of people eventually settled at iwinrin/igbo igbo, where they became wild and call themselves ugbo. when they were threatened by famine, the began to behave like hawk like bird which goes by the name igbo, well known for his aggressive nature. those who are very close to the elderly persons in yoruba land would have been told that whenever Igbo bird approaches other birds, the latter will disperse for fear of attack. Hence the yoruba maxim that "igbo wonu eye ki eye tuka" meaning the presence of igbo bird disperses other bird. it was this disruptive nature that the refuge group adopted in their attack on ife township in search of what to eat to survive. in an effort to put an end to the incessant raid, a valiantwoman by name moremi Ajasoro, after seeking the consent of her husband who was then the Ooni of ife deployed her diplomatic prowess by given herself up for capturingby the marauding beasts. this tactic of the stunning woman led to their conquest of the men from the bush. those who were captured during the surprise counter attack were given state pardon and resettled within ile-ife township.
From the above, it would seem that someone is turning history upside down to consider as an act of betrayal, the sagacity, valor and intrepidity of moremi Ajasoro. it is important to note that those who were captured and resettled among the igbo invaders could today be found in compounds within iremo quarters of ile- ife. thus, if anyone from anywhere now found it necessary to seek relevance by connecting himself with ile ife, it should not be at the expense of our cherished history.
However, it is very bad for people of riverine area of Ondo state to have had the likes of Obateru Akinruntan as Oba. this is because every traditional ruler in yoruba land necessarily passed through certain process of tutelage before they finally assume the throne of their forefather, this i doubt happened in the case of the incumbent Olugbo. this is affecting his sense of reasoning. it is a bad omen for a supposed Oba to not just think but said openly that Obas dont have biological father, what a poor student of history is this man! on this particular issue, i consider it as a threat of attack on the father of our Ooni who by the special grace of olodumare is still hale and healthy. i would like to seriously warn olugbo to stop forth with such thought. any attempt on the life of prince oluropo ogunwusi-the father of Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi, or any member of his household will be disastrous for him and everything connected to him.
Ogun disapproves threat to life and by himself, is not use to make empty threat. those who are close to fredrick Obateru Akinruntan should speak to him on his listening ears. ife does not and will never allow anyone to smear the sacred Ooni. i think this man has forgotten so quickly that it took the intervention of the late Ooni of ife- Oba Sijuwade Okunade to have him installed some four miles away from his town. it seems he has forgotten too that Ooni Sijuwade Okunade ordered his crown to be removed publicly to the admiration of those in attendance. how ungrateful can this man be for insulting the personality of his benefactor? it is for this, i said earlier that it does not worth it to reply to the ranting of an ungrateful mind.
Sincerely, i will want for say that Akinruntan's vituperation was as a result of his lack of historical facts because it has been established that his forefathers were irresponsible and wayward sons who choose to destroy their father's house. if he traces his dirty steps, better for him, but if he persists, this piece should be considered as an introduction.
Joke 😂😂😂
Its true, though? Have you heard of Oseremagbo - King of Ugbo
hahahaha obateru ! obateru!! where u just crown or u just discover your root,put more effort, it seems u're tired of ur small village or the world at large, ooh! u think the way u use money to override the formal olugbo and send him away can be done anywhere, well u can beg okitipupa people if they can give u part of there land to rule.
Oba awon were. See them following him awon alatenuje. Hell await you. It's a shame african's celebrate money. I thought you were once a pastor. You over throne a reigning king all because of money. You will bit your finger last
Lorlah Greenworld read about why he was made the king and stop saying rubbish, for your information he's still a Pastor, he run his own church in his Palace...But try to read before you come up and type rubbish on internet...I never collect dime from him before so how come you address us alatenuje...what Oranmiyan did that brought him on throne as Ooni, is what brought him on the Throne as Olugbo...So READ
Fool
Chai to much drogs is not gud oo tramadol well maybe da TM will makes u get small levels some people go no u now Ooni Adeyeye pls 4gv ur son oo,Omode ole meko je komara lowo!!!
this local king don't know what he saying, they need to take him to psychiatric hospital for evaluation, case close
Adekemi Ogundeko Google abt Obat oil and the second richest king in Africa
Father O'John so because he is the 2nd richest King nko . Oloriburuku ni e John eru owo.
Ese oooo Eyemi, too much palm wine ni
This Obat fans are rascals.
He is just looking for attention and jealous of the young Oonj of Ife.
He made sense. If you have a concrete rebuttal you can state it. Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan has been crowned since 2009. You want to tell me he just woke from his slumber after Ogunwunsi was crowned to claim superiority? Anyway, the new Oni is a Confident and Fulfilling man. He doesn't care about superiority tussles, all he wants is Yoruba peace and unity, worldwide.
No ancestor will come to his assistance. He is telling false history. Why did n't he tell Oba Sijuwade that? Liar.
Mumu the argument has been going for years even during time of deposed Olugbo, Banjo Mafimisebi and even when sijuade was alive. Many stories about Ife are lies.
@@hapexconsulting3789you are the mugun not me.
Oonigbo of Ugbo land your most silly highness. You stole fake WAEC certificate to gain degree at age 50 from Lead University and bought your Ugbo crown only to find out Ifa chose Ooni not you. Haaaaaaaaaa
Odu Noah , Sorry it's not Oonigbo, it's Olugbo...where u got ur own story from that he stole anothers man WAEC Certificate?...As a rich man he has to go back to University to get certified...Can you pls help me confirm the school Dangote attended and the age he got his BSc...Na ppl like you dey make Ibos and Benin talk anyhow to Yoruba...were u taught to abuse an Oba according to Ife tradition...You better take your time bcos shopona still dey exist ooo
Father O'John: You only have mouth you are too little to do me anything. No one kills the favourite of Orisha no one you will take my place instead.
Odu Noah Na wa ooo who won kill who?...what are we saying and what are you talking abt...chai Reccession in action
@ Lorlah You lack home training, were you not taught how to argue without cursing, you lack social manners too because you don't read history of where you are from, How on earth should an Educated fellow believe the Myth that Oduduwa is the Father of all Yorubas, There was even nothing like Yoruba from beginning...Pls read and get yourself approved before you can argue anything bcos your judgement is bad
Father O'John I pity this reckless wreckage called olugbo,,,too much ogogoro can mess anybody up,,,sorry oh Ooni of ugbo land,,,,ode lasan lasan
Olugbo is the traitor not Moremi, says Ilaje paramount ruler
By Olatunde Adeyege
prominent Oba in Ilaje land, His Royal Majesty Oba Afolabi Odidiomo,
the Olu of Igbokoda has described the Olugbo of Ugboland, Oba Fredrick
Akinruntan as the traitor who out of greed, lust for women and inability
to keep secrets, betrayed the his people instead of attributing the act
of treachery to Moremi. He also described as false and misleading the
claim of Oba Akinruntan that he is the legitimate Ooni of Ile-Ife
“If
he is the Ooni, let him go to Ilfe ife and occupy the throne. He should
go their and chase the people away”, Oba Odidiomo said. Both Oba
Akinruntan and Oba Odidi occupy exalted royal seats in Ilaje. He advised
traditional rulers to watch what they say adding that at the moment,
the place of the Ooni in Yoruba and world history cannot be rubbished by
anyone.
The intervention of Oba Odidiomo is the most
profound coming from any prominent Oba in Ondo State where the Olugbo
comes from. He spoke with Irohinoodua in an exclusive interview today.
Oba
Odidiomo said the revelations of the prowess and sacred powers of the
Ugbo people to Moremi by the Olugbo was the height treachery against
sacred culture and norms of the Ugbo people which eventually led to the
defeat of the Ugbo.
“We must understand the dialectics
of history. Moremi had a mission to liberate his people. The Olugbo out
of his greed for women fell in love with her. He went ahead to reveal
the secrets of his people which was the height of betrayal. In Yoruba
culture, it is sacrilegious to reveal the secrets of the Oro to women,
but that was exactly what the Olugbo did. He therefore betrayed his
people. It was that betrayal by the Olugbo that led to the escape of a
sophisticated spy who had conducted espionage on the enemies of his
people. She left all the lucre and wealth she was offered by Ugbo to
return to her fatherland and even painfully sacrificed her only son as
promised’, the Oba said.
The raging controversy over the
role of Moremi in Yoruba history snowballed into another storm: Who is
the supreme Oba in Yorubaland?
Oba Odidiomo faulted the
claim of the Olugbo as the ‘real Ooni” saying that his accounts were
full of inaccuracies and incorrect claims.
He said the
title of the current Olugbo is “Obamakin” which negates the primacy of
“Orunmakin” adding that for the Olugbo to bear the title “Osangangan”
shows that the title came after the original accolade of “kutukutu”
which indicated the earliest of royal tradition. He said since the
Olugbo admitted that there were 13 automous Kingdoms at Ile-Ife at the
time, it was wrong for the Olugbo to lay claim to being the paramout
ruler when at the time there was no supreme community at Ife.
He
said the argument of the Olugbo was partly informed by his lack of
understanding of the fact that there were two epochs in Ife history,
being Ife Odeaye and Ife Ooye. He said Olugbo seems to be referring to a
period before the title Ooni was adopted at Ile Ife.
Oba
Odidi, the paramount ruler and prescribed authority of Igbokoda Ilaje
Kingdom declared that it was the Olugbo, who was a traitor and not
Moremi.
The Olugbo had earlier carpeted the Ooni of Ife,
His Imperial Majesty, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi, Ojaja II, for
honouring Moremi Ajasoro as a heroine and subsequently declared that he
was the original head of the early Ife Kingdom before the arrival of
Oduduwa and therefore, the rightful owner of the Ooni title.
Oba
Ogunwusi recently built a tower, described as the third highest in
Africa, in memory of Moremi Ajasoro, a wife of Ooni Oranyan who
sacrificed herself and her only child in exchange for freedom for her
people.
Oba Odidiomo argued that it was Olugbo who
actually gave out his own people by revealing the age-long tradition and
secrets of his own kingdom and people to a beautiful woman, out of
greed and covetousness.
According to the Igbokoda
monarch, the Ugbo raid on Ile-Ife which he claimed was masterminded by
the Olugbo was essentially to steal goods of Ife traders on market days
so as to have things to feed on.
“The Ugbo information
he gave out was a sacrilege. It was Olugbo that betrayed his people
through the classified information he divulged”, he said.
Oba
Odidiomo who queried Olugbo’s claim to supremacy disclosed that the
original title of the real Olugbo was ‘Kutukutu’ and not ‘Osangangan’,
adding that the latter was junior to the former.
“If
Olugbo said that there were 13 autonomous kingdoms in Ife at the time,
was Olugbo playing supervisory role over them?, he queried.
The Olu of Igbokoda observed that the Olugbo could not distinguish between Ife Oodaye and Ife Ooye.
Kutukutu
Orunmakin, he argued, meant “Heaven knows the brave” while Osangangan
Obamakin - king knows the brave - was a latter day king adding that
Olufe was the head of Ife Oodaye and not Olugbo.
Oba
Odidiomo said Igbokoda came from Mahin which is led by the most
respected Royal Oba Alametu of Mahin Kingdom. He said they all came from
Ora Quarters in Ile-Ife several centuries ago.