Venus In Furs - Acoustic Demo by The Velvet Underground (Cale singing)
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2010
- Acoustic version of Venus in Furs from Peel Slowly And See [Disc 1] played by Lou Reed, John Cale, Sterling Morrison. Actually the demo is longer, they sing the song 3 times : this is 2nd time, best one...
Enjoy !
Cale has an almost Scarborough Fair Elizabethan feel to this. Fascinating.
Elizabethian !
Excellent description !
he's from Wales. I think the Gin is made with Juniper, so it would be more like Juniper, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.
Bang on wow!
Bit alt j .. and o course he's welsh ,
it's a very traditionL west Wales sound
Its in his blood plus his career always veered close to Witchseason Sound Techniques production. Cale not afraid to go acoustic either...
John Cale is one of the most underrated musicians of all time.Swapping out the strings on that electric viola for guitar strings gave the fierce drone on the first two records.
he is not underrated at all, he is pretty good and being seen that way.
Of course he´s underrated. Why has he never apeared on the cover of The Rolling Stone or any other relevant Music magazine? There are trillions of books about the Beatles, Stones, Bowie, Pistols whatever, you just name them. There are only 3 books about JC; his semi-autobiography What´s Welsh For Zen? then a book by an italian journalist in Italian! and a fanzine like book. Or when do you ever get to hear or see his music being played by the media. And a lot of people I spoke to who are heavely into alternative music have never even heard of him before. Considering his enormos influence on modern music and his endless talent he should be right up the top with the other giant rockstars. I believe Cale´s story still has to be told: as the arch-punk, afterall it was him who sowed those bad seeds into rock´n roll, music wise. As saying with his old friend and foe Lou Reed: I hope one day John Cale will be seen sa the Beethoven of his time.
you're confusing popularity with rating.
Absolutely
he’s not underrated at all. he’s a legend.
Literally early velvet underground is classical,ancient and traditional folk type music using electric guitars ,bass and drums that's why their music sounds so timeless and touching as well as a little touch of experimetal textures and sounds .
Amen.
Medieval!
John Cale makes this version so alluring and captivating. His voice is beautiful and in great contrast to the somewhat dark lyrics of this masterpiece. I am truly blown away by its sheer beauty. Help,i cant stop listening to this.
The funny thing is Lou could sing like this too. He had an incredibly buttery soft voice which you can hear in later VU albums after Cale departed. They just opted to sing it very harshly, maybe to match the violent and raging viola?
"Vicar, would you mind singing this tune for us?"
Lol
Yeah, should have been a scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail
Have you seen some of the early Velvets photos, with Angus MacLise still in the band? Cale is dressed up like some psycho priest with that clerical collar and those dark Ray-ban shades, ready to celebrate a black mass.
This is the Renaissance Fair version!
Gives a whole new dimension and vibe to this song !! I like this version even if its not better than the original
Wow! I never heard this before! John Cale is excellent on this!
From everything I've read I am surprised Cale didn't get a writing credit on this. He virtually invented drone drone rock... or at least introduced drone to popular music
Have a listen into this playlist, this is what John Cale did before and besides the VU: ua-cam.com/play/PLNINWcxxj9hHMJx4_oFVWNLznPeMWKRVW.html
Listen to Lou Reed solo heroin demo. Plenty of drone. What they had in common. Ostrich guitar link is interesting. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich_guitar
@@chuckiec20which Reed Heroin solo version. Can't find one.
Gorgeous voice Cale has. And how can anyone think this is Reed? Reed's voice is pretty distinctive.
I just discovered this song watching TVU documentary, its just so spiritual singing, way ahead Lou singing. Very emotional and pure
I would love to hear Nico singing this.
Same
By no means, it's almost blasphemy
@@rarebird_82 By no means, it's almost blasphemy
I would love to hear Charlotte C. singing this !
I strongly recommend the new VU documentary to any of their fans.
My favorite version of this song!
this is john cale ( and that accent is amanford valley, carmarthenshire, wales.) and personally i love this version best. tough shit.x
Never heard this version before. It starts off as a pure English folk song. The music continues as such but the lyrics become really dirty , as I remember the song
Like the medieval feel of this version
I think I love this version more than Lou's version. Of course, Lou made such an amazing job but John's vocals in this song is just.. Magical?
What's Lou's version? The lp version? Well that wasn't purely Reed, the others had their contribution too. Especially Cale had a massive impact on the arrangements and sound, should have been co-credited for the music.
@@ForARide by "lou's version" i meant lou's vocals so i wasn't talking about the arrangements or anything else.
So real- feeling.B. would call it Ren faire music,& laugh. I call it a supplication,& I know the Velvets would laugh but it brought hot tears to my eyes. I bought my 1st electric violin because of John Cale. The Velvets would never be a stadium band& I love it. The Beatles have their good ones,I'm not really a stones fan( the music tv always puts their top 100 bands,& it always ends with the cliffhanger- "who's #1? Beatles? Stones?" I always thought where are our true creators,Cave,Cale,Reed ,Bowie,Bolan, Curtis,the thinkers the Readers! The list goes on,so they line the church of music,even if they are tokened out to the r&r hall of fame- as punk would say,boring ! & Yet they'll play there when nominated. So contrary. - b not B.
Dude, totally Cale. Welsh accent, sounds exaclty like he does on White Light/White Heat
This is incredible!
Reminds me of something that could have appeared on Chelsea Girls
I hadn't heard this version of the Velvets' song. It's totally different in sensibility. In this acoustic version, with Cale singing, it sounds as if it had come out of the British electric folk scene that was happening in the late 60s/early 70s -- something totally different from what the Velvets were up to.
A lot of the early demos are 'folky' . It's weird. I think they are still finding their sound. The song had on the whole been written by Lou years before. He wrote 'Heroin' when he was 15. I think you couldn't choose a more diverse group of people. Lou and John are undoubtedly the . They chose Moe to play drums, or a drum and she had never played. I think it's genius.
True! This version actually reminds me a lot of "Scarborough Fair" by Simon & Garfunkel. It's amazing though!
Wow! If I had heard this without knowing who it was by, I would have guessed Pentangle, or Bert and John.
John Cale is Welsh, so the accent adds to the vibe
Ya' know some where in You Tube Land there is an interview with John Cale and he talks about how he [and Lou Reed] originally co-wrote and conceptualized this as an English folk song; He even recorded this original version on his own album but I couldn't tell you what album that was. But the song references a book, which I can't remember the title to, but one of the main character's is "Severin". It's NOT demonic but rather more along the lines of S&M. It could be from the Marquis deSade BUT it could also be a different novel by the same author using a nom de plume [writer's alias].
RIP Sterling Morrison
ugh beautiful.
Like a really old English folk song! still sounds great!
yes, yes it's Cale's vocals, the info on this acoustic demo version can also be found on wikipedia, google Peel Slowly and See
It's insane. So different from the final version
“Cale sings Venus in Furs as a hymn, Satanic perhaps, but a hymn nonetheless." - Source: Sal Mercuri REVIEW
Satanic?
@@tonguetiedification Don't ask me ^_^ It's a quote! :)
Sorprendente!
John cale is amazing
this is Cale. Lou Reed sings the electric version on the album. the "official" album version.
Feel like you might hear this from afar in the plague years of England. A minstrel locked up in a tower, running out of food, slowly losing their mind.
Ooooo that’s great!
lou's version, gothic ass satanic sounding song
cale's version, gothic ass medieval song
I’ve always thought the album version sounded Medieval anyways.
@@aestheticaltwat it did have elements, but this version is just straight up medieval sounding
the studio version is Lou. This is John.
Just the melody to this song should be played in all churches in the world because it literally strikes a chord in your heart just like Scarborough Fair beautiful
I've got the set and agree this is the best one of three...and for the sake of it Cale is Welsh......
Is it true one of his parents was blind and the other deaf?
English is his second language why no pic workers expounded on this? He's the wrong kind of ethnic!
Pc wokers..... sorry 😔
The Welsh speak English better than the English!
@@childwallredAnd the English Royal family speak better German than the Germans 😮
S&M at its finest!!!
@Alkyani on the album version yes, but I think this is Cale. It's a very good version either way.
I love this versio.
Definitely "bleed for me" in this version,which was what i first heard with the studio version and suits the so much more
@justnicknet yes, J.Cale on vocals
On this version, it's definitely Cale on vocals.
son celtique..les origines de Cale!!
Hermoso
its amazing. i wouldnt mind both Reed and Cale-sung versions on the same album because little differences make the actual takes of the songs so much different.
trade verses they could.
Celtic songs at 2021
Never heard this before and the pictures are great. Credit to the creator.
Gold
Whoa
@Alkyani I think in this version it really is Cale...
Wow
Sounds like they were listening to a lot of Simon and Garfunkle.
They didn't sound like this then....
Xavier Trevino I think they were listening to the same records, in the sense that Cale is from the same area that Paul Simon, by way of Martin Carthy, picked it up from.
Are you going to Scarborough Fair ?
that's almost impossible. they had recorded the album in April and the Simon and Garfunkel album was on the market in October. I never heard of communication between the two bands...
john Cale studied a lot of classical music so it's possible he "stole" that from the material he studied more than someone who played at that time.
velvet underground was a unique band and no one ever sounded like that before them (and I would say after them...)
@@1981Badfish Scarborough Fair was not written by Paul Simon. It is in fact a traditional English tune ballad.
Eyes Wide Shut vibes
Would anyone happen to have tab for this version (or any transcribed version)?
Could someone show me the chords, please?
Bijou
@justnicknet Are you sure? i've always tought it was Lou reed singing...
Cale on vocals for this.
@Alkyani Definitely John Cale
The Celtic roots of John Cale…
Read the comments section for reiteration of information given with the video "for some reason "?
Wish I could pay the local bards in Skyrim to play this
i love this song, i even recorded a version myself, not that you care, and this is the most extraordinary performance, they could have been using lutes and dressed as mummers. i hate it. i'm amazed. if this is the demo i'm surprised they ever recorded it again. i suppose they are playing with ironies, opposing the setting against the lyrical content. it just goes to show how risky jokes can be.
♡♡
Lou nicely erased John's vocal from the VU album on this song. Nice. My wife always said "How did someone with a voice so beautiful get in the Velvet Underground?". Refer to John's version of this or a certain Leonard Cohen song for reference...
dandelion version
Cale on vocals, I believe?
Cale singing this is way surperior to Reed singing this . They should have had him singing the original version.
Far better I feel ❤
Does anybody wonder if the band ever really approved of Lou's decision to sing the song himself?
I have been in bands with more than one singer, and I know if someone else could sing it like this, but I wanted to "sing-speak" it like Lou, a lot of musicians would put up resistance. That's why a lot of singers make it a rule that they alone are lead singer, because they don't want to compete, especially on their own songs. But the best bands, like the VU, mostly have more than one lead singer.
Yeah, nice try unless you knew Lou. He would have insisted on his version whether it was the "better" version or not. And John didn't get to sing hardly anything other than live performances. He was the better singer - and Nico was the better "sing-speaker". Didn't make a difference.
Lou lyrics.he was gunna sing it.no way in hell was he gonna allow john and this version to be heard in '67 this was just test run
It is Cale, Reed sounds nothing like that. Listen to Lady Godiva's operation. They both sing and have an obvious difference.
This is the end.........
You can also hear the english accent
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What year is this from?
Who said Lou wasn't a Folkie ~! By heart
keith dion This is Cale singing
@@markabboud8564 And Lou wrote it - that's the point !
keith dion Ah, sorry. I thought maybe you meant Lou sang it on this recording. My mistake
@@markabboud8564 No problem Mark - I believe there are early VU (Reed / Cale) demos out there too, that feature Lou playing harmonica, trying his best to sound like Dylan ! Stay Safe everyone !
keith dion I would love to hear them. I hope there is guitar tablature to this version of Venus In Furs
i am sure its CAle
sounds like something I'd hear walking down the streets of europe 500 years ago
I used to be a musician like you, until I took a needle to the arm
@@thedissidentbrit2001 what do you mean by that?
@@logimite7174 It's a reference to Skyrim don't worry. It's a sorta medieval magic video game. I just replaced arrow with needle to reference the nature of heroin in VU's music 😅
@@thedissidentbrit2001 ohhh lol. I haven’t played Skyrim before.
@@logimite7174 No worries! I'm not that big a fan, but it's been memed to death haha
wait who thinks this is lou reed? all the comments that say it's john cale...
It's definitely Cale. They are singing with a Welsh accent.
fantasy and scarborough fair version lol
In the church of true creatively made music,there is a stained glass window that lets only the moonlight in on full-moon nights.it stands behind a dusty,unused lectern,where no priests of sound have conducted since the 2010s-16s. The stained glass,as you approach down a worn black carpet spun from musical notes of violence, emptiness, triumphs&downfalls young&old, voices&instruments,the glass slightly blinds you ,scintillating the entire church in what looks like the tears,or maybe black blood,or patent leather. When you climb the bald stone stairs to get close enough to see ,the arched window contains the leaded,stained glass of eons- &all the colors of the tears of the worlds unfounded & that which is within the nomads, the suffering,partying,rising falling&dying stars,always creating ,true artists. The colors inspire fear & then you recognize- not Jesus,suffering on a cross,but a wiley 2- headed saint, St. John(Cale)& St.Lou(Reed),dressed tightly in black,the black angel grinning behind them giving them the very ink from his veins,& Severin,serving at the pointed boots of the 2 bickering, yet lifelong, bound friends, the spikes &within the droppers,the best medicine,to quiet the mind of chaotic, relentless creators,that which will torment them then leave them used up,alone, until they numb away the ringing of truth in their skulls,or unless they let it join with ink &blood& sound,&leave for the masses,what they can. In selfishness,they create what they would want to hear- & some of the masses without ability or too fearful, but in desperation for something meaningful, find it,hear it,treasure it,Amen. To inspire,humankind,someday, maybe,again.- b not B.- VUalways
Why they didn’t release this version, I’ll never know. This is far superior to the Reed version
They should've taken this version and mixed so it sounds like Lou and John are dueting. Imagine John's verses being folk, and then Lou comes in electric style. Almost like a duet between genres as well
chadbot 01 I would be down to hear a version like that. It would probably sound really good
What's the Reed version? You probably mean the lp version which is the Velvet's version.
Chords???'
This is a beautiful version even though it’s about S&M
Garry Norris what do mean "even though"? It's not like that would hold a song back or need to be overcome in any way
more so, because it is :)
It sounds like 13th-17th century English folk music.
I'd say, during the reign of Henry VIII...
Without LouReed and Mo's drums it's old English foke.
He had committed Himself as Producer of The DiLs' Debut LP fer his Fledglin' label, SPY; & Pled w/ the Kinman Bros to remain in NYC that Summer '79 coin' Gigs {"There's Enormous demand fer Yoo guys here"}; but Drip & Phony Blew Him Off & Let me Go. I prolly had a nervous breakdown subsequently & Ole JC Lost innarest in them&zippy
This version is much better imho. Who's "Severin"? Not Severin from Souixsie and the Banshees?
Refers to a character from the novella "Venus in Furs" by Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.
Severin from Souxsie and the Banshees took the name from the VU song, which, in turn, was based on the Novella.
Wauw..this really reminds me of "scarborough fair"..Still the final version is so much better.This is much to restrained..no passion.
I'm sure that it isn't Lou Reed on vocals, but it seems it's not Cale either.
Simon and Garfunkel, anyone??
[Verse 1]
Shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather
Whiplash girlchild in the dark
Comes in bells, your servant, don’t forsake him
Strike, dear mistress, and cure his heart
[Verse 2]
Downy sins of streetlight fancies
Chase the costumes she shall wear
Ermine furs adorned, imperious
Severin, Severin awaits you there
[Bridge]
I am tired, I am weary
I could sleep for a thousand years
A thousand dreams that would awake
Different colors made of tears
[Verse 3]
Kiss the boot of shiny, shiny leather
Shiny leather in the dark
Tongue of thongs, the belt that does await you
Strike, dear mistress, and cure his heart
[Verse 4]
Severin, Severin, speak so slightly
Severin, down on your bended knee
Taste the whip in love not given lightly
Taste the whip, now bleed for me
[Bridge]
I am tired, I am weary
I could sleep for a thousand years
A thousand dreams that would awake
Different colors made of tears
[Verse 5]
Shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather
Whiplash girlchild in the dark
Severin, your servant comes in bells, please don’t forsake him
Strike, dear mistress, and cure his heart
i have a vintage pair :)
This sounds like some wank Hipster cover of the known version. Goes to show what I know. It sounds amazing really. Same artists, totally different vibe. Dirge, New York version versus folky Welsh hippy version. Who would win? There's only one way to find out...
ghehe
Venus in tunic. Not especially exciting.
Its neat ^u^
Music could be an English ballad from centuries ago , the kind Joan Baez made a career of . The lyrics a reference to an 1800's porn book - of special interest to masochists . Ive always thought that Cale was rated as a genius by people who never noticed how basic his skills actually were . Warhol was the real genius - at convincing rich bored people that ordinary people were facinating . Sometimes they were , I can agree . But usually they were just sitting there , zonked out of their heads on Warhol's drug cocktails , mumbling about random things . Or just sitting there .
James Kennedy. Basic skills? Such as?
it's not cale
of course it is
VU for poofters?
Simon & Garfunkel anyone?