As a CPTSD sufferer from the past. I can say the brain is so incredibly powerful beyond our understanding... All memories are stored and never forgotten , even all of our five senses in that memory are recorded. Be peaceful, forgive those who have trespass against us in horrible ways and spread kindness. Live in the present , not the future and especially not the past.
@@Krys-m9w meditation through sound therapy helped me a lot recently. I recommend 428hz and have 528hz frequencies. 428hz releases suppressed emotions then use 528hz to generate happy emotions. You will find peace in the tunnel of darkness. There is light at the end. Stay strong. We're warriors ❤️
@@Ojas97 yeah very true memories always are still there . But all the techniques and strategies e.g sound frequencies, micro dosing psycholbin , nature walking , counselling, therapy , art therapy , speaking to people sucks the poison (emotions) out of the wound (memory) . Once your brain is able to process it through techniques, you won't feel the despair of all those horrible emotions. It's a long ride but there is peace at the end. An example for me personally 8 years ago, their would be one particular nasty trauma memory and it sent me into complete shell shock symptoms, my enigma would swell up with intense pain. It's hideous amongst other symptoms . Nowadays I smile and Don't feel anything like it anymore . There is hope . I feel blessed for life and gained great valuable gifts from the trauma I encumbered. My brain chemistry altered and I was to paint at a very high level without any training. Also, intuitional skills to see through people's bs
@@swatityagi6235 a relatively new type of therapy modality. It’s also called “parts work”. Essentially, we have different parts of ourselves. These parts can get stuck from different events/traumas. Healing these parts allows us to stop the cyclical behaviors we can be stuck in. Constantly repeating the same destructive behaviors. This is just a basic explanation. There is much more to it.
@@ryebread7224 thanks dear…as such am a student of some healing techniques… will definitely check out this one as well. I understand it’s very important to break these cyclic patterns…
@@ryebread7224 Whilst I can see the link, this is not what is being explained. They are different. Psychology mainly works w organizing and then integrating the workings of Ego ( and it is in my view important to do this), whereas spiritual practises like these facilitate the dissolving of ego.
Les agradezco por esta impresionante y magnífica entrevista. Les mando mi amor y bendicion desde lo mas profundo del corazón. Gracias hermanos y hermana. Gracias, gracias, gracias
The grace of The Mahashakti is with me for eternity and one day the Divine will be realized in me and physical immortality can start to develop. By Sri Aurobindo it was said that the first 300 years are difficult .
0:24 5 elements in your system : earth, water, wind, fire and space 1:12 water : 72% earth : 12% air : 6% fire : 4% space : 6% (There is no cleaning to be done with the space.) 1:46 Bhuta siddhi 2:24 fire 2:47 84 is a significant number in the way the creation is right now. 3:23 4:29 Always in the yogic system, we've been saying the cosmos is ever expanding. 5:03 6:27
Dearest reekashade, what you have stated is just a narrative going round, especially for the lazy and the ignorant to feel good and justified, and even imagine they are spiritual, with the Truth "inside" them like the money - which they have not earned and hence cannot spend! -- in their pocket! Actually, while Truth cannot be searched being beyond the ambit of our searching tool, the mind, we are "INSIDE" Truth -- not the other way round, as you state. Even so, "dissolving" ourselves so that the Truth stands revealed is a tall order and needs a lot of holistic and full-hearted effort. "Bend the body, Mend the senses, End the mind (ego - what we think and feel we are)" as Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba advises.
All the elements are love. Everything is love, in essence. The more subtil is fire which can act as a door (thats why we offer to the fire) then its Ether (light) and then its Union, bliss.
Love is not an element. It's the essence of all Creation. But Ether is light and sound, like a vast space... love is beyond all. The higher principle, which is our true nature and the divine itself (paramatman).
@@aryanalfa2444 nah. Words like love and hate simply denote emotions based on ahamkara which falsely identifies with thoughts and body and gets caught in different emotional opposites (happy/sad, pride/shame, love/hate, profit/loss, emptiness/meaningfulness, inferiority/superiority etc) which can lead to attachments and memories/karmic imprints. "Jadaa" is the correct word and state of manas since immortal and omnipresent self is the impassive experiencer and not the doer. Mimicking these attributes of the immortal self is karma yoga or inaction in action (or conscious non doing) which leads to the same destination as sanyasa (complete renunciation) and Dhyana (meditation yoga). As far as fifth element is concerned, it is ether or akasha where past/present and future of everything/everyone can be accessed in samadhi and beyond. It is called "Akashic records".
The sun is shining and it's raining in my heart. The meaning( the purpose) of the 4 and fifth Element is the education that's brings every thing to the right place of functioning the sun the seasons all kind of things because we are the embodiment of the Earth.(to become)
Visiting Ashram and doing volunteering there, daily Yoga namaskaram, Surya Sakthi, Sakthi Chalana Kriya, Shambavi, 3 days Silence for Volunteers at the Ashram (❤), Uyir Nokkam a program based on Bakthi. Before drining the water, I hold the vessel with palms of both hands, close my eyes, bow down to water (Sadhguru wants us to look at the water as our Life, if we don't understand we will if we are deprived of water for 3 days), before consuming food, while walking on earth be grateful for the food. Before taking bath first I look upon the sky and bow down to akash for holding every planet in place and feel how miniscue a dust I am in this vast Cosmos. This is working wonders for me. I have not tried anything for fire yet.
As my friend below said why can't we live in the present?! Who is witness for future or past. Sometimes these Guru's say live in present and contradict the very next day. What's wrong if my grand father lives in my form. Make him happy. Each time I listen to these saints, at least I get more and more confusion. I believe in excersice and calmness.
What's wrong if the acquired programs, data and memories that ancestors had stays and grows with those of your own. If that's not the ideal recipe to attain permanent peace and calm, I don't know what is. 👍🏽👌🏽👌🏽I wonder why you feel confusion! 🤔
भूत शुद्धि। चार तत्वों पर काम किया जा सकता है। 72 % तरल। 12% ठोस। 6% वायु 4%। अग्नि जिन पर काम किया जा सकता है। यादों की सफ़ाई का अभियान। मेमोरी, अनेकों प्रकार से शरीर पर प्रकट हो रही है। मेमोरी आपको हमें सबको अपनी चक्रीय याद से मुक्त होना चाहिए।
What about who is living bin 3rd. World countries an can’t afford to pay for the online engineering ? How can this dream come trough for me ? I don’t have a credit card
Inner Engineering is available in major indian languages through Sadhguru app @2000 only. There are various discounts like for the last few months it was a 15% discount period. I did it before covid when it was FREE as diwali gift. Even if u pay 2000 only u get a suraksha kavach for your whole life n all u had to pay as gurudakshina was 2000. Believe me, its beyond your imagination how IE changes your life for best. 2000 is just NOTHING compared to it. 🙏🏼 it's for YOUR wellbeing not Sadhguru s.
I faced mental physical and sexual abuse from different people in different stages of life. I just want peace and I am tired of this. I want yo forget everything.
I like this guru's outlook although he is missing one element the body is the centre of the universe and the mind is the universe all we have to do is connect just like me we can change certain things within our universe but we must be in tune with it i know our restrictions by the creators but we're a lot stronger than we think.❤❤❤❤
God intended man to trust just him alone. You are not supposed to manipulate the other realms for your own benefit. THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES YOU CANNOT MANAGE!
@@NnaemekaAmamasi Jesus would tell you to sacrifice so that others can have abundance. Because your benefit is another's loss, and twofold and more if you're benefiting a whole clan or family plan.
people should stop listening to old "gurus", and begin to separate between sex for pleasure and love and intimacy. We don't need to be in love or intimate to have pleasure of sex. We should not mix it up or there will be mental problems. Same as you don't need to be in love with your car or your ice cream to have pleasure of interacting with them. We should separate these absolutely different things. The religions try to blend them together, because they want women to be loyal to them, religious are man written and want to make women loyal and obedient
Ha, ha, ha wenn es so wäre, warum ist sadghuru noch nicht cleansed? Er sieht so voll gegessen aus. Er sollte nicht so viel essen u. nicht so viel quatschen. Er sollte mal bei Osho nachlesen.
Poor people can't afford anything. They are poor! Until you erase the poor memory and start remembering wealth, you will stay poor and won't be able to afford anything.
So basically, if we don’t do the Yogas at his foundation we are doomed. What was done before Sadhguru programs? He could have not invented this because yes. We only have one savior and that’s Jesus Christ
@@Yami_no_ou there’s difference between what I wrote and what you consider as hate. I’m just asking what are the options, step by step to do that don’t require subscribing to his programs. That’s not only way, I trust.
@@playmoments4672 care to explain? If you don't want to follow his program it's fine is he forcing you to take them? But why write about Jesus out of the blue?
@@Yami_no_ou Because the way he belittle the impact of prayers and contemplation given by other Masters (like Jesus) in favor of what’s been offered by him is not perceivable as a voluntary take, otherwise we are lost. Is my opinion that Jesus should be the center as per teachings and examples so that we can reach Christ consciousness. Meditation should be a tool to reach that, and there are many more other than what he offers.
As a CPTSD sufferer from the past. I can say the brain is so incredibly powerful beyond our understanding... All memories are stored and never forgotten , even all of our five senses in that memory are recorded. Be peaceful, forgive those who have trespass against us in horrible ways and spread kindness. Live in the present , not the future and especially not the past.
u comprehend what i suffer with the last several yrs 😢
@@Krys-m9w meditation through sound therapy helped me a lot recently. I recommend 428hz and have 528hz frequencies. 428hz releases suppressed emotions then use 528hz to generate happy emotions. You will find peace in the tunnel of darkness. There is light at the end. Stay strong. We're warriors ❤️
@@Ojas97 yeah very true memories always are still there . But all the techniques and strategies e.g sound frequencies, micro dosing psycholbin , nature walking , counselling, therapy , art therapy , speaking to people sucks the poison (emotions) out of the wound (memory) . Once your brain is able to process it through techniques, you won't feel the despair of all those horrible emotions. It's a long ride but there is peace at the end. An example for me personally 8 years ago, their would be one particular nasty trauma memory and it sent me into complete shell shock symptoms, my enigma would swell up with intense pain. It's hideous amongst other symptoms . Nowadays I smile and Don't feel anything like it anymore . There is hope . I feel blessed for life and gained great valuable gifts from the trauma I encumbered. My brain chemistry altered and I was to paint at a very high level without any training. Also, intuitional skills to see through people's bs
How u deal with these emotions is crucial. Emotions and memories are what define us as a person.❤
"as a CPTSD sufferer from the past", does that mean you no longer suffer from CPTSD?
7:56 methods to cleanse the runanubandha
1. Bhuta Shuddhi (8:14)
2. Neem and Turmeric Consumption (8:44)
3. Shoonya Meditation (9:09)
4. Isha Kriya (9:29)
5. Surya Kriya (9:47)
6. Chanting and Mantras (10:08)
7. Sacred Ash (Vibhuti) (10:27)
8. Maintaining Physical Cleanliness (10:46)
9. Engaging in Seva (Selfless Service) (11:08)
11:25 Daily Routine
I think this explains Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy that has become increasingly popular the past few years. Makes a lot of sense to me now!
Interesting, thanks what’s that exactly ?
@@swatityagi6235 a relatively new type of therapy modality. It’s also called “parts work”. Essentially, we have different parts of ourselves. These parts can get stuck from different events/traumas. Healing these parts allows us to stop the cyclical behaviors we can be stuck in. Constantly repeating the same destructive behaviors. This is just a basic explanation. There is much more to it.
@@ryebread7224 thanks dear…as such am a student of some healing techniques… will definitely check out this one as well. I understand it’s very important to break these cyclic patterns…
@@ryebread7224 Whilst I can see the link, this is not what is being explained. They are different. Psychology mainly works w organizing and then integrating the workings of Ego ( and it is in my view important to do this), whereas spiritual practises like these facilitate the dissolving of ego.
@@allisoncassidy1929 I understand. Appreciate you sharing!
"As it was in the beginning, Is now, and ever shall be- world (universe) without end, Amen"
Modern Guru of this century-Scientific version of Spiritual 🙏🙏🙏 Support Sadhguru🥰
He has only repeated what he has learned with no actually discoveries that he has made 😂. Its not like he is Carl Jung.
Les agradezco por esta impresionante y magnífica entrevista. Les mando mi amor y bendicion desde lo mas profundo del corazón. Gracias hermanos y hermana. Gracias, gracias, gracias
A very good video which explains and gives the solutions. Thank you. I am looking forward to receiving more 🙏
True works are begining ❤
It's really strange. I have no conscious knowledge of what Sadhguru is referring to, and yet on an intuitive level it makes perfect sense.
You are on the right path!
partly it's his tone
Thank you for the all the tips at the end of the video. really thank you. Namaskar
If, all is Meditation and Yoga, nothing else, then every Military success I can bring to Tulsi leaf. 🍃
Someone Need To See This Presentation...🙏🌹
The grace of The Mahashakti is with me for eternity and one day the Divine will be realized in me and physical immortality can start to develop. By Sri Aurobindo it was said that the first 300 years are difficult .
0:24 5 elements in your system : earth, water, wind, fire and space
1:12
water : 72%
earth : 12%
air : 6%
fire : 4%
space : 6% (There is no cleaning to be done with the space.)
1:46 Bhuta siddhi
2:24 fire
2:47 84 is a significant number in the way the creation is right now.
3:23
4:29 Always in the yogic system, we've been saying the cosmos is ever expanding.
5:03
6:27
We are searching for truth,meantime it is all in side of us.
Dearest reekashade, what you have stated is just a narrative going round, especially for the lazy and the ignorant to feel good and justified, and even imagine they are spiritual, with the Truth "inside" them like the money - which they have not earned and hence cannot spend! -- in their pocket! Actually, while Truth cannot be searched being beyond the ambit of our searching tool, the mind, we are "INSIDE" Truth -- not the other way round, as you state. Even so, "dissolving" ourselves so that the Truth stands revealed is a tall order and needs a lot of holistic and full-hearted effort. "Bend the body, Mend the senses, End the mind (ego - what we think and feel we are)" as Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba advises.
❤
Sure is. Half the videos I watch I resonate cause I've been doing what it's saying
@@rachelross5829Precisely
Thanks for sharing! Wonderful insights 🙏🏽
You are there dimension l am above ❤
Good & emotional Bonding commitment is there ,it's all good
Great to cleanse on an elemental level .. thanks for teaching and spreading these powerful yogic practices .. my life improves day by day🎉❤
Very profound.
I thought fifth element was love! Like in the movie with the same name.
Never thought as space as an element until now
All the elements are love. Everything is love, in essence. The more subtil is fire which can act as a door (thats why we offer to the fire) then its Ether (light) and then its Union, bliss.
Love is not an element. It's the essence of all Creation. But Ether is light and sound, like a vast space... love is beyond all. The higher principle, which is our true nature and the divine itself (paramatman).
@@CyrilNarayan Okay it nakes total sense, only live ia real so love is everything, everyone and everywhere
@@aryanalfa2444 nah. Words like love and hate simply denote emotions based on ahamkara which falsely identifies with thoughts and body and gets caught in different emotional opposites (happy/sad, pride/shame, love/hate, profit/loss, emptiness/meaningfulness, inferiority/superiority etc) which can lead to attachments and memories/karmic imprints.
"Jadaa" is the correct word and state of manas since immortal and omnipresent self is the impassive experiencer and not the doer. Mimicking these attributes of the immortal self is karma yoga or inaction in action (or conscious non doing) which leads to the same destination as sanyasa (complete renunciation) and Dhyana (meditation yoga).
As far as fifth element is concerned, it is ether or akasha where past/present and future of everything/everyone can be accessed in samadhi and beyond. It is called "Akashic records".
@@Ojas97 yes they do
I definitely needed this 🙏
Thanks guruji you are amazing. Parnam sadguru❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Food for thought 🙏
Thank you universe 🙏🏻 ❤
Thank You SO Much!!
Does shambhavi mahamudra kriya cleanse the elements too.
Amen, Amen Amen🙏
Thanks for this!
Awesome episode ... Already shared in many groups ... Keep up the good work. I follow maam too.
Am in Ghana west Africa please how may I join the class
Namaskar satguru infinite thanks shamhu
How amazing You are Sadhguru Ji🙏
Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻
Exact asa si mai mult decat atat!
You didn't mention Shambhavi Kriya. Is this practice included?
I want to be able to achieve this if only i had the means to live my life in this manner but america and its lifestyle is a prison how can i escape
The subtitles shows “fire elements “ instead of “five elements “
Symbol of lord Shiva union with Shakthi within body guru ji ❤
what about the 24 consciousness in a living being.. be it is a rock or human?
The sun is shining and it's raining in my heart. The meaning( the purpose) of the 4 and fifth Element is the education that's brings every thing to the right place of functioning the sun the seasons all kind of things because we are the embodiment of the Earth.(to become)
Easy way to learn this is ho'oponopono prayers
Thank you Guru ji 🙏❤
Grazie ‘u zi’
Universal body over all God created
Namaskaram 🙏🕉️
I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL LIFE LESSONS, 💎
Visiting Ashram and doing volunteering there, daily Yoga namaskaram, Surya Sakthi, Sakthi Chalana Kriya, Shambavi, 3 days Silence for Volunteers at the Ashram (❤), Uyir Nokkam a program based on Bakthi. Before drining the water, I hold the vessel with palms of both hands, close my eyes, bow down to water (Sadhguru wants us to look at the water as our Life, if we don't understand we will if we are deprived of water for 3 days), before consuming food, while walking on earth be grateful for the food. Before taking bath first I look upon the sky and bow down to akash for holding every planet in place and feel how miniscue a dust I am in this vast Cosmos. This is working wonders for me. I have not tried anything for fire yet.
Thank you for sharing these details from ashram life ...
Ji namaste sadguru ji tq 🎉
Please do not mistranslate. He is saying five elements, not 'fire' elements. Kindly watch the official video on this instead.
Handy hints from Heloise.
It's DEAR ABBY!
Bro what was the thumbnail and what you are talking about?
all teachers talk much and mean less
I want to clean my past what is process
That's my whole monthly check😮
As my friend below said why can't we live in the present?! Who is witness for future or past. Sometimes these Guru's say live in present and contradict the very next day. What's wrong if my grand father lives in my form. Make him happy. Each time I listen to these saints, at least I get more and more confusion. I believe in excersice and calmness.
What's wrong if the acquired programs, data and memories that ancestors had stays and grows with those of your own. If that's not the ideal recipe to attain permanent peace and calm, I don't know what is. 👍🏽👌🏽👌🏽I wonder why you feel confusion! 🤔
om namah shiva
The simple investor strategies are under attack!
How can the universe be expanding when it’s already limitless?
no, by Universe it's the People's perceptions that are expanding.
It is happening with me. I wanted to clean my memory
Good.life.is.all.good.work.but.so.so.reaspeakt
भूत शुद्धि।
चार तत्वों पर काम किया जा सकता है।
72 % तरल।
12% ठोस।
6% वायु
4%। अग्नि
जिन पर काम किया जा सकता है।
यादों की सफ़ाई का अभियान।
मेमोरी, अनेकों प्रकार से शरीर पर प्रकट हो रही है।
मेमोरी आपको हमें सबको अपनी चक्रीय याद से मुक्त होना चाहिए।
how much neem should be taken? I've seen some places say it should never be taken internally?????
It is in our regular diet since childhood, no harm in taking it. Ensure you have washed it properly. Start with a small quantity
@@rahulchoudhury3957 washed? I have Neem oil. Are you talking about the leaves?
@@djpakknight Yes leaves, not oil. You can cook or have it raw. It's taste is bitter, so start with a small quantity.
@@rahulchoudhury3957 cool thank you
change the cover image please...
I thought fire doesn't need cleansing, all others do
❤ ty
What about who is living bin 3rd. World countries an can’t afford to pay for the online engineering ? How can this dream come trough for me ? I don’t have a credit card
Inner Engineering is available in major indian languages through Sadhguru app @2000 only. There are various discounts like for the last few months it was a 15% discount period. I did it before covid when it was FREE as diwali gift. Even if u pay 2000 only u get a suraksha kavach for your whole life n all u had to pay as gurudakshina was 2000. Believe me, its beyond your imagination how IE changes your life for best. 2000 is just NOTHING compared to it. 🙏🏼 it's for YOUR wellbeing not Sadhguru s.
@@earthlifeanddivine29092000 rupees or dollars? Lmao
You didn't mention shambhavi mahamudra.
I want see sir u come to AP bza argebr maatter. Bt for transfer one person venam 😊 malayalam English 😊
Yahweh bro , what up .
Samyama
🙏🙏🙏
👌
Wat is this, in the video sg is talking about memories from genes through parents, why did u moved it to sexual relationship
if most of an atom is space, then surely most of our bodies is air ? 70% water but 99% of that is space isnt it?
🙏🏼🌹🙏🏼🌹🙏🏼🌹🙏🏼🌹🙏🏼
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Everything
Expands
From
Nothing
Anything
Contracts
To
Something
I’m sorry divine knowledge is not attainable as of yet but this is a mere shortcoming. 😅😊
@@AjaychinuShah Do you have too many arcane long goings impeding you?
@@stephend.c.5048 WTF what language… bro
@@AjaychinuShah Light. I just did weird math on what you said.
👍👍🙏🙏
I faced mental physical and sexual abuse from different people in different stages of life. I just want peace and I am tired of this. I want yo forget everything.
Sorry for that...wish you to get past and blossom from all this filth 🙏🏼
Attend inner engineering and bhava spandana
I like this guru's outlook although he is missing one element the body is the centre of the universe and the mind is the universe all we have to do is connect just like me we can change certain things within our universe but we must be in tune with it i know our restrictions by the creators but we're a lot stronger than we think.❤❤❤❤
🙏💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐
Poor people can't afford that😮
*Why has he not turned his body into light* ?
All the teenage sloUots watching this after 10 years
444th like
Earth, water, fire.....why do you presume to know things like this....?
This is based upon 5 elemental theory teachings. Long before modern medicine. ❤
@@bh5826Light
Air
Vapor
Mist
Water
Steam
Lava
Fire
Smoke
Ash
Earth
Why do u presume that if you do not know it, anything that is told will be a lie or incomplete?
God intended man to trust just him alone. You are not supposed to manipulate the other realms for your own benefit. THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES YOU CANNOT MANAGE!
@@NnaemekaAmamasi Jesus would tell you to sacrifice so that others can have abundance. Because your benefit is another's loss, and twofold and more if you're benefiting a whole clan or family plan.
no watch now button !!!!
CRISPR it’s called…for eugenics
…imho what’s here is mumbo jumbo (until verified by clinical trials)
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Why reading to us from somewhere tho
Sexual, NOT SexSual
Simply like Sathguru. Can you takeoff the other person
people should stop listening to old "gurus", and begin to separate between sex for pleasure and love and intimacy. We don't need to be in love or intimate to have pleasure of sex. We should not mix it up or there will be mental problems. Same as you don't need to be in love with your car or your ice cream to have pleasure of interacting with them. We should separate these absolutely different things. The religions try to blend them together, because they want women to be loyal to them, religious are man written and want to make women loyal and obedient
You call me a fool because I call you shri brahma , but I do your respect and you insulted me like my whole family do okay nice play you .
Ha, ha, ha wenn es so wäre, warum ist sadghuru noch nicht cleansed? Er sieht so voll gegessen aus. Er sollte nicht so viel essen u. nicht so viel quatschen. Er sollte mal bei Osho nachlesen.
It's all nonsense, just a direct communication facility with disembodied ones could solve everything in a flash and we directly land in satyug
Which yog are you currently in?
Every word what he says is correct....memories can be erased...yogic practices, breath work are the practices needed...
Poor people can't afford anything. They are poor! Until you erase the poor memory and start remembering wealth, you will stay poor and won't be able to afford anything.
போடா
Blabber mouth!!
So basically, if we don’t do the Yogas at his foundation we are doomed.
What was done before Sadhguru programs?
He could have not invented this because yes.
We only have one savior and that’s Jesus Christ
If we don't believe in Jesus Christ we will be sent to hell right! Don't spread hate mate accept who you are before aligning yourself to anything.
@@Yami_no_ou there’s difference between what I wrote and what you consider as hate.
I’m just asking what are the options, step by step to do that don’t require subscribing to his programs. That’s not only way, I trust.
@@playmoments4672 care to explain? If you don't want to follow his program it's fine is he forcing you to take them? But why write about Jesus out of the blue?
@@Yami_no_ou Because the way he belittle the impact of prayers and contemplation given by other Masters (like Jesus) in favor of what’s been offered by him is not perceivable as a voluntary take, otherwise we are lost.
Is my opinion that Jesus should be the center as per teachings and examples so that we can reach Christ consciousness. Meditation should be a tool to reach that, and there are many more other than what he offers.