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Vietnam war was conscipted there was a draft and thats probably why Pile was there
Private Pyle represents "Mcnamaras morons" basically they lowered the standard so much mentally deficient people were being drafted left and right, they had an insanely high casualty rate.
In war as an American Soldier it doesn't matter what color you are...
No, he didn’t fire Snowball because he was black, he fired him because Joker stood up to him, showing that he had the backbone that Pile lacked.
Yeah, it's a really tough call because there are so many candidates, but saying Snowball got fired because he was black is probably the dumbest comment in the reaction.
Stupid comment for sure.
rob is dumb lmao don't treat what he says seriously
Yeah no that's where I stopped watching the reaction.
I went through basic in 2007 for the Army, and they would definitely put people in leadership positions to challenge/punish people. Being a leader in initial entry training sucks because it is just extra responsibility, and now you get screamed at when you fuck up, or any of your guys fucks up.
RIP R. Lee Ermy. This wasn't a role in a movie, it was another day on the job
R Lee ermy wasn't supposed to act in the movie in a lead role as the drill instructor. He was originally meant to be a consultant since he's an actual marine drill instructor. But Kubrick find his talent great and have him to be drill instructor instead of that guy who was the helicopter gunner.
I met him In Hawaii in 1999. Nice guy. Bought me a rum and coke.
@@rdzed3505 lucky man.
that how in the 60's man what the drill instuctor has to put as much stress on you as they can. so you will you will try and handle war. break down buils up steve usn ret.
I never got the chance damm it. I did meet capt. dale dye
If he wanted to fire snowball for being black, why would he have made him squad leader in the first place?
So he could fire him
@@jamesellis701 lmao
Dude has a luke warm IQ
Exactly. These idiots can't think beyond one variable.
They always look for any excuse to paint themselves as the victims 🙄
If Joker had been black he still would have been promoted because it was about Joker having integrity, not the colour of his skin.
THANK you for sparing me from having to make that same simple point. The damn density just…😅
@@BrokenInBeauty It's only dense to you because you live in fairy tale land where blck people were treated equally as whyte people in the 1960s 😂
I met Gunny years ago, he couldn't have been more humble and kind to my wife and I. RIP Gunny.
I also met the Gunny. As a Marine, he treated me as an equal and as a Brother. He was nowhere near the typical hollywood movie star.
With the fame and adulation he got from in and out of the Marine Corps, it would have been easy to be arrogant, but the Gunny was the exact opposite.
24:17 He goes first because he is the scout and not because he is black. Pay atention to the movie you watch.
They kinda stupid give em a break
Accurate. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.@@yomamapwnz
They gotta talk to each other during the movie and voice their thoughts in order to make compelling content. Some information is going to missed. No need to be condescending.
@@carterd9761 it’s about their immediate jump to “its cause he’s black” also proven before when they see interactions with private snowball
@@yomamapwnz That’s not an illogical conclusion at all. Black Americans were proportionally more likely to be drafted than white soldiers. Furthermore, they were also more likely to be assigned to combat units, with 23% of combat unit soldiers being black while making up 11% of the total force in Vietnam. At the beginning of the Vietnam War, black soldiers were more likely to be assigned to more dangerous assignments. In 1965, nearly a quarter of all casualties were black. The possibility that the soldier was made a scout because he was black and seen as more expendable than the white soldiers shouldn’t be ignored considering the historical context. To be fair, this led to sweeping reforms of the military and the black casualty rate fell to a much more proportional 12.7% in 1967, and such disproportions in casualties never arose again in the US armed forces. Regardless, I don’t think racism should be so rapidly dismissed. “Here you are all equally worthless” is great line and reflects a more progressive attitude that was starting to take hold in the military, but it was far from the truth.
During the Vietnam War, the Department of Defense created a program called "Project 100,000" which enlisted men who were below mental and medical standards to join the military. Pyle not knowing basic things like left/right is something that was common place among the recruits in "Project 100,000". Project men who failed Basic training, which was often, were sent to Special Training Units, only to endure increased physical and emotional harassment, and punishing physical demands. These soldiers were constantly cycled through and standards were lowered until they became "combat ready" and as a result, the combat loss rate for soldiers in this program were three times higher than those of regular soldiers. It's an understatement to say "Project 100,000" is one of the most disgusting things the DoD created in their long history of horrific programs.
These recruits were referred to as McNamara's Morons, he was Secretary of Defense at the time. McNamara made a lot blunders during his time, like doing away with the Navy's cracker jack uniform and it harder to store the new uniforms shirts ties and suit coats.
It seems were gonna maybe need to have this kind of program to happen again if WW3 happens with how much of the population is ineligible to join the military due to mental issues and what not
@@raymonddevera2796 I didn't want to use that term in my OP because it's extremely derogatory and it may have been censored by the UA-cam algorithm. Thank you for elaborating on this program. "McNamara's Morons" is what the soldiers and the general public called these soldiers. That term only added to the f'd up nature of "Program 100,000".
McNamara was pretty awful. The dude thought he could win a war using computers and statistics while ignoring extremely crucial elements in war; including the morality of losing lives. His thought process was so bad there was a logical fallacy created from his incompetence.
Whoa, I hadn’t heard of this program prior to this comment. That's so damn sad.
Oddly enough the only "morons" where the people forcing a draft on the population to fight and die in a pointless war on the other side of the world.
I had someone once ask me watching this movie why Animal-Mother was so racist to Eightball and the guy doesn't shoot him.
The answer is because the two of them have seen so much shit fighting in that hell called Vietnam that they are brothers. Animal is the ONLY person who can talk that way to him and get away with it, and its mostly a way for the two of them to deal with the crap they're going through. Anyone else who tries to say that stuff to Eightball would probably end up on the ground bleeding out of several places.
Notice when Eightball was being shot up by the sniper, Animal had absolutely no hesitation about running into danger to try and save him? You don't do that for someone you're actually prejudiced against.
And that’s just the way it is in the infantry a lot of racial jokes and fucking around 😂
@@gilbertfitchett6870 But Sparta forbids mercy to anyone who kills a medic if there is a bunch of 0311 Bravos about...
Marines love to fuck with each other. Trigger a response, because sometimes....somedays, we'd just feel dead inside. And Fighting and helping/healing each other was the only way we could feel things.
You have to understand, MOST enlisted Marines are basically well-disciplined Children between the ages of 17-27. That is the Optimal age range for most junior Marines.
Civilians don't understand
And that prayer wasn't made up for the movie. That is the rifleman's prayer.
8 Ball was the Squad's navigator (he was smart enough to carry the map). As crazy (& racist) as Animal Mother was, 8 Ball was his friend & he didn't want to leave him out there. He went charging out to get to him.
Smart? He got lost and got three guys killed including himself.
Navigating on foot with nothing but a map and compass isn't as easy as you think, especially in cities.
@@dsumner1234 Yeah, that's why spoke up for 8 Ball. I liked his character. Sucks when people make mistakes under extreme stress & the costs are high. But, they do happen. I was never a good "map & compass guy" when I was in.
@@justmeeagainn Land Navigation is not easy.
@@dsumner1234 Yea, it's hard. We had to learn how to do it in ROTC and I almost got lost.
The guy who played the Drill Instructor (R.Lee Ermey )was a real DI in the Corps that's why he was so good at it. He was a great actor,ttoo(Texas Chainsaw, Seven etc.) RIP to a great Marine.
Sponge bob as well.
Apparently he was very friendly and kind when out of character
@@jamesbaggett7223 Yes, I heard he was, too. An army buddy of mine met him in real life.
The actor who played the door gunner in the helicopter had originally been cast as the drill instructor, but once Kubrik saw Ermey improvise the dialogue, he got pushed out of that role and was given the door gunner role.
Also a D.I. in the movie Boys in Company C
11:54 if you pay attention in this scene, Pyle only shot 1 bullet before changing the mag. thats how he was able to sneak off with live rounds
Kubrick was great at all those small details.
🪖 I’ve watched this hundreds of times and thought I covered and spotted every fine detail yet never caught onto that! Thanks for sharing, I thoroughly enjoy rewatches for little things like that 💚
And the talk from Hartman about the Marines being great riflemen and being part of assassinations as Poyle stares at Hartman, damn.
You got that backwards. He fires 9 shots instead of the mandated 10
In reality no one gets off the range with even one bullet, and you do not have a live weapon during basic training for any branch of service. This was very real for basic, I went through in June of 1976 with the Air Force!!
When the platoon wraps up the soap in a towel and beat Private Pyle, there's actually a name for it; it's called a, "Blanket Party".
Vietnamese girls were snipers all over Hue City, in the book Tunnels of Cu Chi, a female Vietcong sniper recounts how she was 15 and shot 3 Americans from the 25th Lightning in that area before having a change of heart and letting the others live as they started crying and sat down to pray so she decided not to shoot.
It is very hard, many Americans were drafted into t$rrorism, they didnt all want to go invade her country. But, she should do her job, as their officers weren't going to ship them home just because they cried.
@MrElis420 Vietnamese people fought the french colonization, when the French left in came the Americans, when Americans lost they had war with China.Judging by her age that girl had never seen a day of peace in her whole life.
She also recounts stabbing an American through the neck as he stuck his head through a ceiling trap the next day so she did.@@emilianosintarias7337
We didn't lose. The losses were staggering on.the Vietnamese side, fuck em
My father told me that this is exactly how the drill Sgt behaved when he was in the Marine Corp, just prior to Vietnam. The drill Sgt's job was to find any weakness, both mentally and physically so that it could be strengthened.
There are no "drill sgts" in USMC only Drill Instructors (DI). DS is an Army designation.
I served ten years in the US Navy with a lot of Marines ... aside from the 'hitting' (though there's ways around that), they said everything about the basic training was pretty accurate.
@@Laurie-xu6fo Correct.
My cousin Dave served in Vietnam and came back with 'Agent Orange,' courtesy of our own government.
Same with my uncle. R.I.P. to your cousin.
My grandpa came home from Vietnam for the same reason
"This is visionary shit." - Great description for Kubrick he would probably love.
Realistic boot camp scenes. I was in marine boot camp at the same time this movie depicted
Worst part of reactions like this to this movie is how so many reactors miss jokes or plot because they are talking over them. It's even worse when you get 3 or more reactors in the same video because they are talking over each other as they talk over the movie. The boot camp sequence at the beginning of this film is packed with classic lines that come at you rapid-fire. Even folks that sit quietly can miss a line or two.
I know people in the comments sometimes complain about too much pausing, but I'll take pauses when you are laughing too hard to hear the next line over hearing 5 people talk at the same time any day.
The Rifle Creed, or "prayer" you heard them say before going to bed is a real thing we learn in Marine Boot camp. It was not just made up for the movie
My father was a’Nam era Marine, he knows it by heart
Same, as myself, it's still n my head.... Vietnam Era
. Semper Fi Devil Dogs!!
I went thru Boot camp the summer of '97 and I still know it as well
I earned the title United States Marine in 1986. This movie is the most accurate portrayal of Marine Corps boot camp ever written.
That's what my dad told me as we watched it together, right before I left for boot camp. 13 weeks later, I agreed with him. Semper Fi.
My dad was in the Marines from 1960-64. He said the same thing about it being a realistic portrayal.
Platoon 1066
Graduated 9/19/86
Semper Fi
I saw this when it first came out in a theater full of Marines. When Joker came out with "Is that you, John Wayne", you could hear the collective intake of air. We all knew it wouldn't end well...
Even now, I'll watch the movie (or actual Boot Camp videos) and laugh the whole way through and my wife and kids don't get it. They think I've lost my mind.
lol
Thank you for your service
Can't forget a lot of vets became heavily addicted to drugs like heroin while in Vietnam. Being absolutely off their tits most of the time meant they didn't think twice when doing some pretty savage inhuman things to men, women and children... it was literally hell on earth. If you like films like this then you might enjoy ones like Platoon, Apocalypse Now and Born on the Fourth of July
💯 this list!!!
i remember a video where you see american soldiers burn a little civilian village down while little children stood their and watched everything they own getting destroyed.
They were sent in to destroy the place, not aid “the south”, so it was just the logical consequence of the mission - nothing to do with substances. And the mission was a success
Yes!!!
@@blackwolf4653There's a story of a US Army helicopter using their blades to keep American soldiers from continuing a massacre.
22:36 translation:
"why wont you do it?"
"too big"
"its not a big deal, just bear through it"
I knew what that scene was about without even skipping.
Not an Army movie.Those are Marine recruits
Vincent D'Onofrio was so good in this movie. Whop would have thought he would grow up to play The Kingpin.
And Detective Robert Gorren in Law and Order Criminal Intent
And Edgar the bug alien in Men in Black
The second half of the movie sheds light on the first. The idea is to put you thru hell (basic training), so you can survive an even worse hell (war).
In the end, Joker mercy kills her instead of letting her suffer. The duality of man. He keeps his humanity.
I think at that point he loses it formally.
“Gomer Pyle USMC” was a sitcom that aired in the 60s about an airhead marine that always screwed up and got on his sergeant’s nerves. That’s where the name came from and why he started calling him “Pyle.” The sitcom is rather corny, but I always found it pretty funny.
What blew my mind was hearing Jim Nabors (Pyle’s actor) singing voice
@@jamesbaggett7223 Yeah. “Gomer Pyle” was a spinoff from the “Andy Griffith Show” and that’s where I first heard him sing. I thought it was a voice-over…was pretty amazed when I found out it was really him.
This isn't a war move; it's an anti-war movie.
Most movies about war are anti-war. It's not like they include all that horrific shit to make people think it's awesome.
How can it be antiwar if it doesn't make clear what was known by the time it was made : the mission was to destroy several countries, it made sense, and it succeeded. Instead the reactions are like “ war is hell “ as if it’s ww2 or something.
@@emilianosintarias7337 Nothing about war in this move is glorified, and everything bad is highlighted. Ergo, it's antiwar. I'm sorry if you can't fundamentally understand that; maybe movies are just not your thing.
@@Jeremy252 I agree most war movies are like that, but not all. There are many movies whose purpose is to make heroes out of everyone on screen. If you walked away from this movie, thinking anyone in it was a hero, then maybe you should give it a second watch.
Why did you bother to write that slop? Your non sequitur aside, it's completely normal in everything from personal psychology to political and historical narrative to erect a contrived, potentially forgivable fault and criticize that, so as to avoid admitting to and wresting with a very real fault. All you have to do is imagine the Germans won ww 2, to imagine the most rebellious war themed movies would criticize the botched, mad or meaningless attempts to help the Slavs, J*ws and Roma. They would thus be apologetics for that war machine. And Germany having won, certain criticism would be allowed even if dismissed, precisely because it would define the limits of criticism in a way that obscures how German war actually works.. Would such films be antiwar movies?
In order to create an anti vietnam war movie, you would need to contradict the deflections that the class of people who directed the war employed after it became unpopular. You would not repeat them. Nowhere in Full Metal Jacket is the aim of the war made clear and criticized, and in fact it really isn't even a movie about the Vietnam war. It's a movie about personal cognitive dissonance and different approaches to disavowal for one's actions, so as to not go insane - and a Kafkaesque movie about the the irrationality of the state. But Vietnam was very rational, and it was a successful mission, not chaos.@@Tijuanabill
Platoon(1986)
Apocalypse Now(1979)
@MangoMann072 And Oliver Stone's "Born on the 4th of July" a true story and a very accurate depiction of how Vietnam veterans were treated back home.
apocalypse now still the best war movie for me
That prayer is actually called the rifle prayer we said it in bootcamp in 1989
This is not "An Army" movie. This depicts "Marine Corp" boot camp and deployment into Vietnam.
I don’t think you understood some of the things that happened in this story. Joker being promoted over Snowball had nothing to do with skin color. The sergeant was testing Joker and Joker stood up to him. Eight Ball wasn’t sent out because he was black, he was sent because he had the map. Kind of like a navigator. Gomer Pyle had no business being in the military but back then they relaxed the standards to draft more men.
Unfortunately, you're talking to a group of people who have been taught that everything revolves around race.
^^^^^ Exactly
@@johnnywhite26 Yes because whyte people haven't been anti blck and reminded them how much they hate them every single day (including your comment) for centuries 😂😂😂. Just hand wave it all away Cletus. R@cism in Vietnam? Never heard of it. Nah no way.
Oh and before you call me a victim, i'm not blck. I just open a book every now and then. You should try reading something other than the K KK scriptures at your rallies then maybe you'd finally come off kinda smart
That scene from Archer:
Lana: C'mon what's Cyril gonna do?
Cyril in the bathroom: "7.62 mm, Full Metal Jacket..."
One of my favorite movies ever but that little exchange always kills me🤣
- How tall are you private?
- Sir! 5 foot 9 sir!
- 5 foot 9? I didn't know they stacked shit that high!
R. Lee Ermey is an absolute animal and legend. Once a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine!
Apocalypse Now
Siege of Firebase Gloria
The Boys in Company C
Full Metal jacket
and I forgetting one??
@@bbb462cid...beyond war movies, there was Saving Silverman, Man of the House, Frighteners (he basically plays Hartmann's ghost, having one badass moment where h fires TWO M60s simultaneously), Fletch Lives, and the Mail Call tv series.
@@ahhamartin Oh, I know. I was listing war films. His character in Frighteners isn't Hartmann though. Not only was he much less profane, the name was Hiles
It’s the Marine Corps, not the Army. Its saddens this old Devil Dog that the youth of today can’t even distinguish between the branches of our United States Military.
And the “prayer” was real, not made up for this movie. It’s called the Rifleman’s Creed.
no difference they're all corrupt and disgusting
My father was in the Marine Corps in the 50s and he told me that they had what was called a "towel party" for anyone that was causing the group to fall behind. It's essentially what they did to Pyle and if you didn't join in on the beating, you might be on the end of a towel party of your own. Rough stuff, but you have to remember, these are kids that they are trying to turn into men to fight and die. I don't know if there's a nice way to do that.
Actually Joseph, it's called a "BLANKET PARTY"
@@nomoreprospecting well, he was a marine in the 50s. Maybe they called it something else. I'm simply relaying what he said.
The Di improved that entire barracks scene, all of his dialogue with the insults and all.
The biggest lesson I'd take from this film is that WAR is hell and it doesnt discriminate. When things get tough, you must adapt or you will be defeated in every sense of the word.
Yep. Be ready to kill or be killed. It is hell and most people were just trying to survive and get the hell outta there
R. Lee Ermey was a real-life drill instructor at MCRD San Diego back in the Vietnam War. Stanley Kubrick brought him on as a consultant for Tim Colceri (the original Sgt. Hartman), but Kubrick was so impressed with Ermey's auditions (which consisted of him being pelted with tennis balls and oranges) that Kubrick allowed Ermey to improvise and write 95% of his own dialogue. Ermey's scenes also usually took only 3 takes, highly unusual for a Kubrick film.
The DI was a real one and was on set as a consultant for the actor that they originally had, who was the gunner in the helo. The director like how Ermy was better with the off comments that they asked him to do the role. He was also given the honorary title of Gunner Srg after the movie, he did not retire as one from the Marines. Also Private Pile was to represent those members of the military that were allowed in due to draft with the War. Before the draft and change to the standard Pile would have not met the IQ requirement to be enlisted. Think of it like as the bar is closing down and you dont have anyone to go home with, you start dropping your standards just so you end up with someone.
"one for country, one for corps... Well I guess the corps don't get theirs" idk why but that line gives me boot camp flashbacks. You can't fake being a DI
I went through Army boot camp in 93 and it was pretty much like this only we had three Piles. Drill Sergeant Rivera stomped on one Piles foot to help him remember right side. One Pile kept screwing up, so by week five it became platoon punishment while he stood aside watching. Another one drill sergeant told him after week one he would not graduate. So He didn't let Pile #2 participate in live ammo drills due to "safety concerns" so he wasn't able to graduate. One guy, not a Pile left his locker unlocked and EVERYTHING got tossed across the floor. One guy decided to take a shower after lights out and was reduced to tears. One guy, D.S. Rivera said, "I'm going to smoke your arms so bad you'll cry trying to hold a piece of paper." Yeah Full Metal Jacket is spot on to what boot camp used to be.
Our MTI Military Training Instructor for the Air Force called us A** F***s every single day until we graduated!!!
I remember a day in the marine corps when an iraqi came to talk to us about how terrible his people were. It was sickening. Not what he was saying, but the fact that he was doing it. It was meant to dehumanize them so we wouldn't hesitate. What really scares me is how much they encouraged us to hate civilians. "America is not at war, america is at the mall while you and your brothers are fighting for freedom" put that shit in a damaged 18 year olds head over and over and its no wonder the veteran suicide rate is so high.
22 per day
@@aaronpincus6095 Yup, I wear the TVP 22 a Day bracelet. Not cuz I'm a suicidal vet (I did serve in Iraq) but out of awareness for my Bros & Sisters who had it tougher than I did & came back harmed. I was one of the lucky ones.
@@user-kj5iu8bs1p Thanks for your service. I have one also. While I was never enlisted, I've been around vets my whole life. Dad, brothers and what's really interesting is that every single adult I made friends with after high school were all presently serving or veterans.
@@aaronpincus6095 those numbers need to go up WAY higher, for the peace and stability of the world.
6 million people, the majority civilians were killed by America’s “ war on t&rror” .The iraqi invasion was a crime but Bush is just walking around a free man.
The instructors you can no longer put their hands on cadets but this is to weed out the weak because you're only as strong as your weakest link
There's a firing every few days to give every squad member a chance to be squad leader. Most of us were fired at least a couple of times. It's actually a relief to be fired.
Two things you will actually have to remember he actually was a drill instructor in real life and Veterans will tell you this portrayal of boot camp during Vietnam was actually accurate., and even today drill instructors both male and female in the Marine Corps are the last people you want to cross
That would also account for the Military Training Instructors in the Air Force, Drill Sergeants in the Army and Recruit Division Commanders for the Navy and Coast Guard!!
Did he say "Tactiful"?🤔🤨BRUH!🤣🤣🤣
I went to Marine Corps boot camp in 2003 it’s rough mostly mental they yell they get physical with u but it’s no longer this bad. The language is rough unless u were sheltered u can handle it
This wasn't bad!
Fun fact about R. Lee Ermy he was not gonna be in the movie originally. He was only a military advisor, he had asked for the part but they told him they already had someone for it. So when it was shooting time he wore his service uniform and his Smokey Bear cover and did what he does best...after that Stanley Kubrick hired him and for I'd say 90% of the script is all him🔥🔥 R.I.P
Bro Private Snowball didn't get fired from squad leader because he was black. If that was the case he wouldn't have been made squad leader in the first place. This was a good reaction, I really enjoyed it.
Guy on the end " yo I don't think he's mentally all there".....no kidding, are you? Lmaooo
11:57 He didn't notice that at the range when Pyle removed the magazine, he still had some FMJ rounds in the magazine that he took back with him to the barracks.
I never caught that. Damn.
I went through Air Force Basic Training in 1976, you did Not have ammunition or a live rifle in the squad bays, you were checked prior to leaving the live fire range and the range master was armed in case any knuckle hands decided to be stupid!!!
My daddy was in this shit… came out a gangster. Miss you dad.
Paris Island Survivor, Brings back memories, Pad locks in those socks, Blanket Party
Me love you long time, was in 2live crews song
@@darkdaveyI'm surprised they didn't notice that, they must be first generation black folks
You said they were "grown men". The average age of the draft in Vietnam was 17.
The Vietnam War was the first time the true ugliness of humans at war was brought into people's homes via the TV. The world has never been the same.
I counted six false assumptions of racism in this reaction... work on yourselves fellas.
You all need to watch the entire movie. To fully understand the DI’s reasons he did the necessary things he did. BTW Marines are not drafted.. it’s all voluntary
"GLORY" based on true events of the CIVIL WAR' S first all black ex-slave battalion to see actually combat. ALL STAR CAST. "COURAGE UNDER FIRE" Takes place during the first Gulf War in 1992. Both movies stars Denzel Washington.
Glory (1989)
The crazy thing is, this movie was made in London England. This is why the buildings look weird and landscape. The guy that pulled that hat off the dead Vietcong,is an English actor Kieron Jecchinis
None of them would survive Boot Camp!
Guys, Marines are not soldiers. That's army
DI to Pvt Pyle- "did your parents have any children that lived?"
Fun fact: The helicopter gunner that said “Ain’t war hell!” Was originally cast as the Drill Instructor with R. Lee Ermy being the military advisor. However Ermy did such a good job in the test shots he was put in that place an incidentally made a very successful 2nd career out of it
Blanket party we used Master Locks
What’s the privates 11th general order? Sir the privates 11th General Order is to walk my post from flank to flank and take no shit from any rank sir!”
The most integrated places are infantry platoons. Those guys love each other like brothers and they’ll joke and razz each other in ways that sound dark as hell and racist towards each other but they know it is in jest and they’ll take a bulllet for each other.
It's crazy how much these guys missed the entire point of the basic training scene, when R. Lee. Ermy was insulting them and specifically said the "N" word he also pointed out racial insults towards whites/mexicans etc then proceeded to use those said insults to individually insult everyone based off race to make a point that nobody was better than anyone and that they were "all equally worthless", also Snowball was not fired because he was black lol.
You all do understand that the reason that Drill instructors are so hard and ruthless is because “Hey! You may need to toughen up! Should you be captured by the enemy, the probably won’t be as nice as Gunny Hartman. “ It’s really that simple. There is really nothing funny about that
The prayer is real. I had to memorize it and say it before bed in Boot camp
Damn these guys aren’t very perceptive
The amazing thing about this movie is that it was shot almost entirely in the London docklands.
Red coat needs to be reigned in.
R. lee Ermy was a actual marine, sad he is gone and the role of the drill instructor in this movie was top fucking notch, no one else could have done it this well.
I went to Navy bootcamp in 79 and they still treated us the same way. There is no color and they job is to break us down and then build us up as a team. What you saw in the barracks is called a blanked party, we did that to two guys. They were not playing the game and costing us a lot of plain. We ended up kicking 2 from the company and then life for us got better.
I am hard, but I am fair. 1975 plt. 3063, MCRD San DIEGO. It was hard, but it was fair! Semper Fi!
Draft was only into the army, however, in the late 60s, if you weren't rich and couldn't pretend you had bone spurs, you were probably getting drafted; so a lot of folks either chose a branch to enlist in, or did the army "voluntary draft", for a chance to choose your specialization. "Fuck a war" - Buschwick Bill
Matthew Modine is / was a local. I'm almost 66 now and wife and I ran into he and his wife and baby about 1988. Chula Vista, California. Our kids are about the same age now. He's from here and Imperial Beach.
He went to about 3 different schools because he was a wild child 😂 Great Guy Though! Very Cerebral 😎
My uncle never talked a lot about it, but he said it was something as a helicopter pilot he'd drop guys, and minutes later when he picked them up with the medics the same guys that were still alive didn't look human anymore.
They didn't let Pile in, they drafted him. Back then it was the draft. When you turned 18 you were forced to register with the government for selective service. They would randomly pick people to go fight. We don't do that any more, because that's how you make bad soldiers. A bunch of people who are forced to be there. They just wanted bodies to fill uniforms, and if Pile could be trained enough the face the right way during combat, they'd keep him.
It is mindblowig how Stanley Kubrick (despite some being better than others) never made a bad movie during his career!
The machine gunner in the helicopter was originally hired to play GSgt. Hartman, but Lee Emery took his job and they gave him this part.
So much hidden in this film. Like how as Joker finishes off the sniper, he slowly turns until his peace symbol is no longer visible just before firing. Btw the book makes it clear that, his racist grumbling aside, Animal Mother is actually best friends with 8-ball. Part of this makes it to the film when he refuses to leave him.
My cousin told me that drill instructors WOULD fuck you up, and so would the rest of the platoon if you screwed up too much. All true.
A different actor was originally playing gunnary sergeant Hartman but R.Lee Ermey was on set as a consultant and wanted that part. He was given a chance because he had been a real drill instructor in the Marines. Obviously the rest is history
I served with 3rd Bn 9th Marines 3rd Marine Div in Quang Ttri province 1968-1969.
I'm 74 years old and will never heal from that war.
15:12 “why let him in the Army”
Oof! Right in my Marine heart! 🦅 🌎 ⚓️ 😢😂
Hey homies, the morning PT run can go as long as the Drill Sgt wants it to. Also, these cadences like the eskimo one are real and not made up for the movie.
They break you down so that a blade of grass has rank on you. Then they build you back up to be able to kill if necessary. THAT is your purpose as a soldier. I was drafted in '68. Sent to Fort Bragg, N.C. for basic training. Had a Black Drill Sergeant who was jus' like F. Lee. Thank You Drill Sergeant Sloan... it's cuzza you that this previous mama's boy survived Nam. I still believe we need a draft today; all MEN,18 to 20, No exceptions. Your turn to watch the gate, Son... you can go to college after. Let the whine begin.
Welcome Home Brothers 589th Combat Engineers Song Pha Republic of Vietnam 1970
I agree, all men from 18 to 20 should be required to serve a 4 year enlistment of the military's choice!!! It will make a man out of you. Air Force 76 to 82!!!
@@GM8101PHX Thanx... the only thing, I think 4 years is too much. I did 2 and it seemed like a lifetime.
In Nam, there was often a duality among what looked like friendlies. The M60 gunner could not tell which of those farmers was an agent or active military. My brothers at arms killed tons of them., tightly or wrongly. An early- 1964 war veteran said that they faced Chinese regular Army units on full uniform. These troops very soon changed into the pajamas that the civilians wore. The teenaged girl who sold you stuff on the street would, after sundown, be a sniper and kill you. The gunner said that the real VC (Charlies) ran faster.
If you didn't catch it, when they beat Pvt. Pile in his bunk, those towels had bars of soap in them.
4/5 in the opening scene was right into it, just homeboy in the red finding it group funny trying to dap around.
Great show, pay attention and not make fun of what was said
The movie " Apocalypse Now " is even more crazy.
8:27 you guys falling in in this cadence…. So legit. Props.
19:35 Animal Mother represents what Pyle would have been in Nam.
My husband went into the Marines in 1976 all the DI's had pretty much just got back from the war and that is how they treated the recruits. Remember they were heading to Vietnam and had to be tuff to make it home.
You guys should watch platoon.
That was a young Vietnamese female, not a little kid. In the draft era, they werent worried about mental issues so much
If you had a pulse, you could walk into combat. That's why Pyle was there.
4:56 That was not made up for the movie. That is the USMC Rifleman's Creed written by Major General William Rupertus after the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1942, and like most things in the Corps, it was adopted by the Corps. The Marine Corps has a deep love and respect for it's history and is proud of it's Marines, so many things about the Marine Corps has been adopted from their own men through history - from lines in the Marine Hymn, to the rifleman's creed, to their official marching song written by Composer and fellow Marine John Philip Sousa, a song that bears the same name as the Marine Corps motto - Semper Fidelis. Always Faithful. The Marine Corps is often jokingly called a cult, but there is some truth to it too. I grew up around the Marine Corps as my father was USMC 8th Engineers of the Second Marine Expeditionary force.
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My Brother and a cousin enlisted into the Marine Corps back in the late 70's and early 80's and I had an uncle who was a E-8 Marines Corps Master Sergeant in the Marines and Viet Nam Veteran. I am a veteran of the army both as an enlisted soldier and later a commissioned officer.
There were some aspects of the movie realistic and some unrealistic. Sure, for some kids Boot Camp is difficult, but I was an athlete in high school and college and so were the other members of my family. Kids who were athletes, esp. in endurance sports that take a lot of stamina like basketball guards and forwards, cross country runners, middle distance track runners, wrestlers etc., did well in basic training.
Kids who were out of shape and not high school athletes struggled. The way this drill instructor targeted this one kid is not the most realistic depiction. It was also against the military law. A DI who was doing that, would have done that many times in his career and I am sure he would have been court marshalled. No one I knew who served knew an NCO like that. Another unrealistic part. This kid Private Pyle never lost any weight. They day he killed himself he looked as heavy as the day he arrived. I don’t care how often he snuck food and it wouldn’t have been that often in a 13 week Boot Camp he would have lost about 20-30 pounds. We had big kids who joined and they all lost noticeable weight.
The Marine who played the DI, R. Lee Ermey, also starred in another movie called The Boys of Company C. www.imdb.com/title/tt0077270/. You should check out his role in that movie which was closer to his own military service. When he was killed in this movie, that did happen in Vietnam probably more than any other war. It was called fragging. ua-cam.com/video/c1tnNjzy7gI/v-deo.html .
Oh, good war movie suggestions: Saving Private Ryun with Tom Hanks, Black Hawk Down and Hacksaw Ridge and if you want the ultimate in intrigue with some fantasy thrown in you must watch Apocalypse Now 😎
Way too many of us (if we didn't get smoked) came home like toomany of these poor bastards you just watched. PEACE!