Why Are Electricians Arrogant? - Part 2
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Those angle doohickeys are definitely a good call! At work we just put that bend into the pipe, call it a "box offset"
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I have 3 of those Dewalt boxes, well worth the money.
Angle doohicky.....offset nipple....but angle doohicky works..
The Dewalt Tough System is great, I got myself the wallmount rack and have a box, a twin drawer until, and that sorting unit. It's even better if you're a contractor since they make a wheeled rack that you can stick the units onto to travel them around. They're just HDPE, but they're thick and heavy enough for you to stand on if you need an extra bit of verticality when working.
When you remove that piece from the box it's called a "knockout". Later, when used at the laundromat, it's called a "slug"!
lol...When I was a kid, we went under a factory fence and found a pile (8 ft. diam. X 4 ft. high) of "knockouts" they saved for recycling from electrical boxes that went into their manufactured equipment. They worked perfectly as quarters in four different soda machines at neighborhood gas stations. We had all the free Coke and Pepsi that we could drink for about a month, until the machine manufacturer installed magnets in the coin slots to catch our slugs.
People are shocked when they find out i'm not a good electrician
Excellent comment
Thats gold
Lots of haters my friend.
Electricians jobs are dangerous. Not hard.
HVAC tech here. Most electrical guys are good guys.
Stay kind.
Let’s help each other.!!!!
As an electrician I respect you hvac guys a lot, and frankly think y'all get underpaid.
Darian Bell
Thx man I agree I am free lance now. As employees techs do not make enough. Specially in the city.
@@ScrewdriverTUNING At the end of the day we should be thankful because we are able to make more than most people out there.
@Hello World same in America 4-5 years of schooling in many areas.
@@darianbell9614 I'm a fitter turner.Includes milling, turning, welding, maintenance, pneumatics, electric pneumatics, hydraulics, CNC, pipe fitting but I always wanted to be an electrician but fitter trade offered itself first
Because electrician is the first profession. And God said, "let there be light"😉
let there be rock ac dc.
Amen preach it brother!!
He said let there be light not let there be off cuts on the floor
Kings of the trades.
It’s fitting that God would say that, as light is an electromagnetic wave. Quantum field theory proves to us that everything is made of undulations in the quantum field. Essentially what this means is God gave LIGHT (energy and form) to an endless sea of still waters. This produced every single physical property of the universe to exist :D
Started my electrical apprenticeship in March! Probably the best decision I’ve ever made.
Hell yeah brother. I just started mine as well. Super happy
Im 62 get out of it before its to late,😞 millons of ways to make money these days🤨
Strange I always thought electricians where the most grounded of tradesmen. Though maybe it was foundation workers, my memory is a little muddy.
I see what you did there. Twice, actually three times after re reading
Get out.
@@harveysmith100 actually 3 times
Cody, as I watch you, it takes me back 50 years to when I did the same thing. Delightful memories fostered by a delightful man. Thanks, Pal. 🤠
The Electrician has entered the chat...
Yea, pretty curious.
sorry to hear you have a handicap coffee month disease yea how to find electricians just go to a coffee shop were all are hanging out lol
@@jenniferwhite6089 not me :( you see, im around a bunch of idiots all day, so I'd stick to myself :/
@@Dogetuberyt laugh so hard my breadbasket is hurting
@@Dogetuberyt I work with morons this poor martian love to pick on earthlings
I’m 18 and I’ve been in electric for almost 3 years. I think it’s a pretty enjoyable trade to be in and it’s rewarding being able to work on my own stuff. I just remodeled the second floor of my mom’s house to be a sort of apartment for myself.
You will probably still be living with your mummy when you`re sixty years old.
@@mjh5437 Probably not
@@mjh5437 it wasn't much more than 100 years ago that families and society didn't really force the children to move out lol, as a dinosaur I'm sure you're aware of that.
Same about to go into the electrical trade but what many don’t realize is yes it’s not as hard of work as other trades but it’s still work…but very important work sometimes our work can be a difference between life or death. But anyone who dirts on another trade just has deeper hate with in them. Soon you realize that all of us have a role to play in order for a house or any structure to last longer than our lives
Get out before 30 !
I just wanted to let you know your videos have been keeping me entertaind and sane after my surgery to remove the cancer they found I want to say thank you for putting out grate videos
Contractor here.
Wranglerstar star i love your solution to the offset on the box being that you dont bend conduit. Very good and clean work.
I appreciate your videos. Thanks for the shout out to us electricians who keep this world lit up.
Keep up the good work and God bless you and your family brother.
Much better than part 1. You've actually learned from the comments. Bravo!!
I am the proud grandson of an electrician, son of an auto mechanic, nephew of a brick mason, brother of fireman / construction worker and brother-in-law of a plumber. All great and worthy trades of which, if I wasn't so fond of aircraft, I would be happy to have had a career as.
Thank you for speaking so kindly about electricians☺
It's called a box offset, simple to bend with the appropriate bender...
Now, you just need to decide where to plug the Pinball machine and the Galaga arcade game in.
The guy who always had my second jobsite key was my electrician. On the job in the early part and usually there at the end.
That's right we wire at the construction part of buildings because wires need to get between sement that's why construction electrical work is so much more stressful because you need to work in the rhytm of the building as more stories are built.
The building engineer is not going to be happy if one of his sub contractors is going to hold back on more stories being built because after that sement gets there it is almost impossible to get those wires there and there are a lot of them for modern buildings trust me.
@@ironicmanx9886well typically in a building like you’re speaking of there will be conduit and troths everywhere making it possible to add on at any point.
My college lecturer told us that electrical installations were originally done by carpenters. This was in the days when wires were not insulated and bare wires were run in grooves (dadoes) in wood mouldings. - called 'cap and case' - on the surface of walls. Woodworking skills were needed to get the neat mitre joints needed when the moulding had to change direction.
Thanks for sharing, all the videos are great! I appreciate the time you take to include us. Thanks again.
Man looking at this as a european electrician it amazes me how different our systems are. But the metal boxes look really clean and cool against wood!!
Man I miss these kinds of videos. I know youtube likes the live streams and shorts now but these day in the shop videos were unmatched.
We are actually not arrogant. Other trades are just intimidated and jealous.
absolutely
the guy that says "ill do it myself its easy their just ripping you off" usually ends up calling within the week sounding like "I need some help with.... tried to do it myself but...." and ends up spending twice as much as he should have
No one with greater than two digit IQ is intimidated. 90% of your jobs are pulling wire, which you could probably train a monkey to do. The rest is incredibly basic electrical theory and math.
Except for an hvac journeyman. As they know what you do, plus a hell of a lot more
@@sodman1987 yeah, not so much. It is down to the indivual. Never meet a hvac tech that really knew electrical over rudimentary controls.
What a tease video gave me just the tip and only for a few minutes! Those offsets give me the fizz!
Clickbait title, but then, good to hear Cody talk up the electrical trades. I have been an electrician for 37 years now, 5 to go till retirement. Electricians are qualified to work on anything from " zero volts to lightning"!! I have done everything from computerized machine troubleshooting to running 26,400V cables and transformers. A great field to get into, where you never stop learning!!
Agreed Sir... Working on Control Systems and Medium Voltage Myself,really have to be careful at work though, don't care if client trying to push me to hurry. Trying not to get myself killed.
This was a good video title. It's provocative enough to draw people in, but it still tells me what you're doing. Well done sir! Plus, my dad was an electrician (retired), so I know first hand the nature of electricians. I helped him and another electrician wire a house while I was in college, it was rewarding work and I got a lobster dinner at the end. He said it was a good deal for him too.
Tryin ta make me envious of your shop. Its workin too. Thanks, some of us need a little guidance in electrical. Its helpful.
Appreciate that you learned from our comments on the first vid
It's still a little goofy, but a world better than the last one. Excited to see the rest of it
We east coast guys would have held the select deck up off the concrete so the end grain couldn't absorb moisture from the concrete. If that wasn't an issue there wouldn't have been a need for the pressure treated bottom plates on the partition walls and around the floor near the outside walls.
@@bigmbd87 I've done that myself for interior partitions and scribed sleepers on above grade concrete... Some inspectors will not accept it though if PT is required by code in their locale. As such, it's an it depends situation.
Michael Dunster PT is used against rot and insects. Sill seal won’t help you with insects, at least in Florida. And in geography/installations where water might possibly condense in the wall, sill seal won’t help you there either.
Another great video. Wish they where longer I can watch this all day!
Cody - "If you can do Legos, you can do conduit"
My 4 year old - " Hold my juice box"
The little offset piece is how you are suppose to attach conduit to the box. It 1) allows you to securely attach the conduit to the box. 2) it accounts for the amount the box is off the wall (thus the offset) allowing your conduit to be strapped securely to the wall.
nice try, but the offset is only used by those who can't bend conduit.
On battery operations - get a timer switch that has 2 or 3 on/off triggers. I set them around the clock but could set them daylight only (solar array). When on for a while, the battery gets warm and if kept on will get hot and/or out gas under stress. So I run them in 3's and I always have hot batteries so I can switch out something and use the back up and continue work. By the time that one is out, the first is likely charged. I swap out fan batteries every 8-12 hours and have ample ready to go - fully charged.
Love your videos Cody. I am an electrician and just have a few tips. A conduit bender is worth the investment but if you only have one then get a 3/4" bender which can do 3/4 and 1/2. I always run 3/4 because it leaves room for future add ons. That would also give you the ability to bend a "box offset" which puts the conduit tight to the wall after coming out of a box. If you don't have one though, you can buy straps that hold the pipe off of the wall the exact distance that the knockout is off of the back of the box so you don't have to use those horrid offset couplings. Also you'll find it easier to add the boxes as you run the pipe from left to right or you'll be struggling to get the connector into the box. I saw you had black and white wire but no green. Are you planning on pulling in a ground? Good luck with everything and stay safe.
Can't you earth everything to the conduit and then earth the conduit to the breaker box earth.
Don't need a green if he's using the conduit as ground
It's not proper to do that. Always pull a ground wire and bond the metal boxes, receptacles and wire from the panel together to have a good, grounded system.
Cody Ols you do not need to pull a ground as to code specs. But I agree, you always should.
@@AndrexT no as it would light up anyone touching the conduit.
The best part about being an elechicken is not having to clean up your own mess. Just leave your stripped ends and bits of wire laying about and some nail banger will come around and sweep it up for you!
I couldn't tell you how much i appreciate videos like this !!! Awesome !!!
My parents told me when I was young “if you know a trade, you’ll never starve”. I always remembered that and I pick electrician. I’m no pro, but I can hold my own and doing that kind of thing on the side has kept food on the table a time or two in my 20’s. Now I relay the same message to my two boys and daughter. Great video. God bless you and your family
Out of curiosity, when you say you're not a pro, do you mean you are knowledgeable/experienced, but don't have official accreditation? It's encouraging to hear that working on the side can help you out.
We do our electrical systems completely different in sheds, not specifically better. It’s just interesting to see. We mainly use water resistant parts and cables in impact resistant tubing.
You may think about investing in a Klein Conduit-Fitting and Reaming Screwdriver. It helps reduce the amount of tools you have to carry around with you while installing conduit.
You should’ve gone with the 4” square deep boxes. They’re easier to work with and you can fit more in there. Sometimes it’s tight with all the wires
He used offset nipples and a file...Think he knows about box fill?
I really enjoyed that small segment where you sped things up when you were adding the select deck
just a heads up. In the 90s there was a huge change to the NEC code that requires you to run a ground from the panel. You can no longer use the conduit as your ground that is now considered a bond. By code you now have to ground the electrical box and the device you are installing.
Wrong you can still use the conduit as the ground.
Enjoy the information and helpful tips you provide in the video, God bless you and your family. And thank you for taking the time and doing quality videos.
The reason is the same as why Electricians don’t fight Forest Fires. It is a very specific set of skills that if done poorly gets people killed. Why pick on a tradesmen that risk their lives everyday to make sure your family has light and heat in the depth of winter?
The only ones who get picked on are the ones who -think- they're being picked on.
Risk their lives?? Really?
@@woodenstoolstudios7211 I guess you've never heard about the electrician that got electricuted? All the way to perm sleeps.
clicks and views and ad revenue
@@izzyplusplusplus1004 no body risking any lives on 120
As a 1st year Electrical apprentice, I will agree that it is quite enjoyable most days!
Yet another VERY timely video. Never enough plugs... thank you
If I were a Electrician I would love your comment about this trade. Cody, since you have done many types of jobs it sure makes adding your own wire through the conduit boxes is very easy and some of us who have never tackled this kind of project but willing to learn then some of the brave guys will succeed and hopefully feel good about making the effort to try something new. I personally need a patient person who will work with me and correct me when I make a mistake. I love watching Wranglerstar videos. God’s blessings to you and your family.👍
I saw part one and almost pulled my subscription. As far as arrogance, there seems to be a whole number DIY hacker electricians that are sure they know the code, are sure there doing things correctly because they watched a UA-cam video of someone else doing it wrong, and feel they are above the law by not permitting their job or having it inspected. I did give this portion of the series a thumbs-up.
I did this to my garage after you showed it in the wood shop at the last homestead not a bad project for a beginner. Keep up the great content.
I love how you’ve decorated your carpenter bench.
Electrical is the way of the future.......countless options........ I’m an electrician but I specialize in commercial fire alarm systems....high rises in Boston etc...incredibly rewarding and gratifying
I noticed you cleaned up after yourself .
You're no electrician !
LOL
I’ve been an electrician for 15 years and have always cleaned up after myself when doing bid work. When the customer pays me hourly they “insist” I not clean up as they don’t want to pay someone $150 an hour to sweep up. I also teach all my guys to leave the place cleaner than they’ve found it
@@danutdlp that makes sense. I never thought of that being the reason electricians leave messes behind.
Now that's funny!
and true
@@retam1418 It don't take that much time to keep your work area clean as you go.
I'm mostly residential new construction. We usually end up cleaning not only our mess, but also the mess the plumbers and tinners left behind. It does sort of make sense though since we are the last trade before the insulation and drywall go in.
We have also had people ask us not to clean. Some customers would rather do it themselves for free.
You can never have too many plugs and switches in the shop
Hello I do electric work. Another way to do this is a raceway or large Condit (3/4" and up) near top wall straight line through 4 square junction boxes (tie each to ground and drop down conduit to switches and outlets. No bending and everything is square!. Yee Ha! Though box fill and number circuits in pipe come into play so with out a dive off deep end, in basic if you stay at 9 wire (use common ground that leaves 8) you get 4 circuits. In addition if you have room you can drop or push up pipe through header of wall if you want it recessed. My 2 cents.
@Wranglerstar - good choice for the EMT conduit and boxes, I can not reccomend as you stated staying AWAY from the cheap outlets and switches. The additional expense of commercial grade devices go far beyond their monetary worth - albeit it is important that they be properly installed as well. The pre-made angles (bends) and box offsets work well if you don't have or do not know how to use a good pipe bender. The 4x4 ("1900") boxes with the RS covers with dual outlets is called a "Quad". A duplex outlet is a single outlet with 2 receptacles for plugs - simplex (single use) being single outlet with single receptacle. Once this pandemic gets over with I would LOVE to come out and show and teach you everything I know in the trade. Much more I still wish to learn from you as well.
Thanks for correct him on the "duplex" term by correctly calling it a "quad" (4 receptacles). The duplex is (2 receptacles) and the box is called a "2 gang box" that has 2 "yokes" each "yoke has 2 receptacles. Peace.
Thank you for acknowledging the errors in your part 1 video. Electrical work is so dangerous without proper training. We sound arrogant but it’s because we’re so safety conscious and terrified when we see electrical work done wrong. People take their electricity for granted and have no idea how close to death they are on a daily basis. Also at 11:00 mins, if that box on top of that metal locker is touching, then it becomes part of the electrical system. Electrical is always about erroring on the side of caution, no matter how much is slows down the job or pisses people off. They’ll be angrier when they’re dead. And by the way, I know an apprentice who is 55 so if you want to learn properly, it’s never too late! I say go for it! It’s fun as hell.
This is going to be alot of work but it will be so nice when you're done. I like this style. I just got married and I'm finishing up school this May and I'm starting to look at some homes because we are renting right now. You're giving me some very ambitious ideas for my first house!
I am an electrical contractor. Before I started my training I thought the same as you! Easy stuff!! When I finished my training I was speechless how much didn't know or how much that wasn't covered in the course. This is an attitude usually held by people who think they know something about a subject. Over the years I have found that the arrogance level is proportional the electricians true understanding of their craft. High in arrogance = low understanding of their craft.
I agree...
Dunning-Kruger Effect
I agree. I really enjoy electrical work. Nice job. -Ed
I believe the NEC code is 4' in shops and garages. It would be nice to have them GFCI protected also. That may be for commercial installations, I'm not an electrician but do a ton of electrical work.
Nice thing about putting up the select deck, you always have a shelf real close to set the nailer on!
I love these videos they are the happy mid-day motivation everyone needs in their life.
You may try using Industrial raised covers instead of stainless trim covers. Also don't be afraid to pick up a bender it's not difficult to bend EMT conduit. Love your channel.
You're not nitpicking are you?
@@larrypatterson3839 No not at all. I'm a 21 year Union-11 Electrician and Like and watch His channel all the time. Iron sharpening Iron comment.
When building my home the electrician was great! It was the plumbers I had the most problems with. Had to fire the first one!
I double that dewalt organizer. It’s perfect. I use it for my fasteners.
Love this channel my whole “career” for lack of better phrasing of a measly 4 years of helping my brother when the time called has taught me enough to “know how to get into trouble” as he refers to it, while he calls himself a jack of all trades an a master of non. What is great is he community every time I comment cause at the end of the day all I am is a college student who helps his brother from time to time when he is short handed. Along with the help that wrangler star dishes out as well.
Love the time-lapse
I am an electrician and its only clean work half the time for me. I wire new in-ground pools and its mud or dirt all day long when you are branching. We get done before the landscaper so all dirt all the time.
My son wants to be an Electrician, he’s only 14 yrs. old. I told him he would make good money doing that. I even have him help me with projects I have with electrical so he had an idea on how to do a few things.
That’s awesome tell him to stay humble
Follow the codes. Follow the safety.
Love your videos Cody! Keep up the great work, God bless you and your family. 🙏
One thing to know about doing your own electrical work is to never assume the last guy did it right. That's when you run into faults, backfeeding issues, improper grounds,etc.
Yeah, when we bought our house, I ran around it with a simple socket tester... Missing grounds, L/N swapped, all the good stuff.
I always do bootleg grounds
"Call the building department and tell them you're going to add a circuit", the building department can get bent, ill do what I want on my own property.
I'm a carpenter and would love to see more electrical stuff
Thank you for the video Wranglerstar! God bless! 😁❤️
Dance wax dispensers. Lol I shot beer out my nose.hahaha! I love it.
really like the education in life on good human behavior
Having just exited my crawl space after snaking pipes I agree, go electrician.
Brother your doing great. Next time spend the $20 to get yourself a half inch bender. Your 90 deg and offsets can easily be learned with a couple of sticks of pipe and a calculator. Looks so much nicer and in the end is way more secure for the long haul. All those set screws and coupling and offset will loosen up over time and you will have issues. It’s really not that hard to learn conduit bending and once you get it. You will really love the results. Bless you brother 🙏
Love the huge stack of ammo.
I saw the title and thought ope that's from my comment about the factory 90s lol. I would agree, electrical was good to get into. I did sheet metal and insulation when I was trying to find my place in the trade jungle and electrical was the right choice for me. I love commercial work, it's way cleaner than industrial.
Another good trade is a concrete saw/core drill/wall saw operator. I did it for 6 years before being laid off at the economic turn down of 2009. It’s not “clean” work, you come home filthy, but it’s challenging and you get paid really well.
Perfect timing, need to add outlets in the garage!
Hey Cody, I'd recommend getting an Ugly's Residential Wiring book. It's a really handy reference. They also have a conduit book. The box offsets you're using are a good choice for emt because you have to have a fitting there anyhow. FYI they will ad resistance when pulling in your wire compared to bending an offset into your conduit. You're off to a good start. Good luck and God bless.
I think you'd make a great sparky, Cody. Nice and neat. We usually just lift a tiny bend, generally called a "kick" into the first "90" piece that comes out of the box. The 1/4" or 3/8" lift gives you the same spacing as the offset fitting. Your solution looks great, and is very solid and just as good. Some sparkies might say there are more potential snags in the conduit for pulling wire through, by using the extra fittings. But they are probably a bit uptight. I don't care either way--both good, just one is a bit cheaper is all. And by the way, the reason we are so arrogant, is because we're the best! Thanks for the video Cody, and congrats on the new place, it's looking good.
There is a special offset bender for EMT conduit disigned for the surface mounted boxes, so you don't need other expensive fittings. My supplier had one and it saved me about $40 in silly fittings and it nice and clean. That was a small job.
Well you can do a kick if it is a 90° above box but hard to do to side of box unless going straight down.
@@spicetaz yes, that is why I suggested it for this application--since the pipe is entering the enclosure from a 90 degree bend. Not sure where else I would use that particular bend. In this application, the "kick 90" as we call it where I live, simply allows you to forego the standard box offset, which Cody achieved here with fittings.
Hi Cody, I used to bury by boxes in the wall (most of our houses over here are made of brick) anyway those tabs you were on about were all broken out so that the plaster could get a good grip on the box. I didn’t mind because I picked up all those bits, took them home and ground the shape bits down and then our grandkids used them in their games for shop keepers and everything else.
Dance Wax Dispensers!! 😂😂😂 Love it!!
So funny, I'm coincidentally adding outlets near my work bench next week!
The style of precut hole is called a knockout. The piece that you remove is called a slug. That's what I was taught anyway!
East Coast Electricians Rule!!!!!
Do they clean up after themselves?
@@wranglerstar yes
Wranglerstar sure do ! spotless job sites ! Upstate Electricians can not be beat !
John Naylor 😂 a guy only makes that mistake once...
C.E. VIII you would think, sadly not the case the majority of the time..
Lol. A month ago Stanley Fat Max tapes were the gold standard. Today he has to keep pulling up the tape. Maybe time for a new tape??
Cody you can use what we call a "mini" strap which straps the pipe off the wall and perfect depth to go straight into your box. Its a good option vs using your 2 hole straps and having to use those clunky box offset connectors.
I agree With you Cody for sure.
Electricians have it drilled into their heads from the start of their education: if they screw up, people probably die.
Yeah it may appear like arrogance, but I’d assume in most cases that the strong attitudes come from deep respect for their craft.
The fun part of being an electrician everyday is knowing a little 16 gauge wire can change your life forever at anytime. 120v may kill the most people but 277-480v can give you a pretty good ride.
Cheers! Someone who gets it! Thank you. Genuinely.
The "slug" is the bit of material that comes out the hole. The feature of having a partially punched hole, with the "slug" retained by the little tab of steel, is called a "knockout". Its basically saving you from having to drill a hole in the panel, which is especially beneficial when the panel is live and you really dont want metal shavings floating around in there.
I finally made it after several years into the Union as a 5 year Electrician. Doing many trades...it was grueling climbing ladder all day long to access and pull everything. I had been a laborer for Masonry and demo kitchen/baths but the Electrical field was tough. I found joy in the herbal industry as the natural items were improving my health dramatically, and 15 years later as an Herbalist and couldn't be happier. Built our own independent store 3 years ago. Just my story and journey. Regarding all your material, could you please link for amazon everything you buy? There are soo many details that most people dont know about with specs and quality. And I believe it would be worth your time with the links for everyone. It's typically the 1 thing most handy guys dont take on, and you potentially could open up that door for all. God Bless! Thanks!
@8:19 I once had a good laugh with a friend. It was his first home. He was having the kitchen renovated and the floor was not level and the outlet boxes were set using a laser level in the room. Then cabinets and counter were being put in and backsplash tile and we saw that the boxes were not even to the eye.
"don't make it true to the world. make it true to the house"
I have a feeling the barstool is going to be the new loctite (in every video)
It's funny cause just the other day I re-watched the cribbing video, and the shot at 4:40 and it gave me the fizz
You can run black, red and blue together as the hot wires. That way you can have access to all three circuits in each conduit run. Each duplex box can have two separate circuits.