Miss E could be chilling and y’all would say this mess randomly. At a certain point, these grown ass women need to put in the work to fix themselves instead of harping on past issues. Only you can fix you
That part is correct, she wasn't really getting the respect from her family so she got it from her husband and her son and grandchild. May God continue to watch over her family traci was about that life.
@Tori Adore In my opinion we all go through things in a relationship ups downs in and outs. It's up to the person to decide whether of they want to stay with that individual or not. She did what made her happy and she loves him and stood by his side. She did what was best for her, I always laugh when a when talk about a man cheating as many women out there cheating on their men which is never spoken about js.
@Tori Adore Again what I said was true you may not understand why she stayed with him, you judging her for doing her and not realizing why she stayed with him.
@@kerrylarry8110 amen! Traci's life is so beautiful because she lived it with no worries or regrets... Especially toward the end. With a great partner and family she built, loved and protected. Truly will miss Traci but I now know she's free with all peace and no worry or crying.
But the conflict wasnt with her sister it was between their managers. Why take it out on your sister. She lost time with her sister over manger arguements. Sometimes mothers are right. Traci held alot of grunges over things that cam be worked out.
Amen. Evelyn is bat jackass fool, and a know-it-all, who abuses Christianity. I cannot watch this show because I cannot stand her. She's the cause of the division, and as long as, Tamar is funding her bank account, she good with Traci being the *Black Sheep* of the family. I am tired of seeing Traci being abused by them.
True but what she said wasn't a lie. You don't let someone else come in AND dictate your relationship with your family no matter how screwed up. Not unless you know your family is putting you thru unlawful abuse or something crazy like that.
These lady are grown, they can say and act anyway they want. What the hell does that has to do with ms E. Shit your family has problem 2. I dont know who you ppl think your fooling. Yall have the same old problem just like everyone else.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 you are so right! Even Illyana said the same thing, it's the head of the family that is toxic. And until that is fix they will always dysfunctional.
I just made a comment somewhere else..I understand Ms. E but the same time we have to love and respect each other whether its blood or not. that's what wrong with the world now, blood, blood ,blood. Blood is not always there. Doesnt the Bible say to love one another whether we are blood or not. When this Earth is destroyed there is no guarantee the Braxton family on earth will even see other again because God is going to choose His Kingdom family and the devil will have his family. Point blank!
Traci had every right to do whatever made her feel comfortable. She should not have had to fake it to support Tamar. I pray that Traci is now at peace 🙏 Her family always wanted her to compromise her peace .
Right and I wonder why they not on TV right now together saying something nice about Traci. It's sad because Tamar get on Instagram and talk about not important stuff
She lost time with her sister cause she cant "fake it" like her mama said if anything happens to one of them you can't get it back..it sucked she held on to grudge for so long
@@tas-life231 they dont have to go to social media to impress yall..The moment Tamar Express herself it wasn't good enough for people like yall. Than they want to bring up the arguments they had in their sisterhood. So no let them people grieve without folks like you throwing stones at them.
The sisters mirror their mother. I feel like Evelyn always secretly harbored resentment towards Traci for having a relationship with her father and even developing a rapport with his mistress/wife, Miss Wanda. The sisters reflect this resentment and the end result was all of them treating Traci like “the ugly red headed stepchild”.
I think Traci always lived her life in "Nutbush" as TAMAR called it...Severn Maryland aint hardly Nutbush.....BUT......Traci FINALLY found her voice...her boundaries and becoming a DUCHESS......SEEMED TO REALLY MAKE HER TAKE A STAND FOR HERSELF....HER HUSBAND AND HER FAMILY. AND YES....MS E ALWAYS resented that Traci was close to Mr Braxton and Ms. Wanda. Traci even sat with them at Trina's wedding. YET.....When all was said and done....Traci was heard...seen.....and her beautiful presence was felt....and NOW it is GOING TO BE MISSED.❤️💔💔💔❤️
I think Traci is right to do what’s best for her. Knowing your boundaries is important. I love that Traci can now make a stand on what she will and will not tolerate.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 Oh believe me I know all about it, got 10 siblings all older but the only one I talk to is our mom. SMH they're too toxic to be called family cause I don't feel the love. It's either relative or estranged so and so.
Tomboy Doll - Blood relations doesn't always equate to the meaning of family. My husband once said to me that it is important that once siblings get older that they like each because even if we distance ourselves love is always there. If we like our siblings, we want to be around them just as we socialize with our friends.
Blood don’t meant anything. Blood can’t be toxic and make you wish you didn’t have that blood in you. Traci was right to stay away. People always say family comes first or family is more important, not when it makes you want to not be apart of it . You have strangers that treat you better than some relative .
Neither Tamar's team or Traci's team have their best interests. Ms. E is right. They are fighting over people that have nothing to lose. Life is too short for them to be feuding over people that would drop either of them in a second.
basketballbabe03 this happens a lot to celebrities, they let outsiders ruin their relationships with their family members. It shouldn’t be allowed for your hired help to get the upper hand over your own flesh and blood. Tamar quit the play with snoop over this same no good “friend”. I’m sure this same punk was in her ear when she was with Vince. Tamar acts like she was under a rock before and acts like a high school girl, not like a 45 year old GROWN woman! Tracy’s manager also needs to act professional, he is not an angel either. He is also in Tracy’s ear about Tamar! It happened to Michael & Whitney and look what happened to them! No real family around to tell you when your wrong and the truth! These blood sucker snakes need to stay in their lane when it comes to family! But Tracy and Tamar need to get wise and shut it down! They are paying these people not the other way around!
Christian _person - 🤦🏽♀️ Well first of all.. she did NOT quit “Snoop’s” play. She finished off the entire leg of the tour. Stop listening to blogs. Second, it wasn’t because of this same guy.. that had absolutely NOTHING to do with him. That entire situation was about she & her friend (a whole different guy) being disrespected. Third, she’s NOT 45 yet either. Fourth, let’s not sit here and act like Traci’s manager didn’t fuel this discord between Traci & Tamar since last season.. LYING and saying that it was Tamar who got her kicked off of TONI’S tour when that wasn’t true! But Traci didn’t believe her, and just ran with his word. SHE let that man come between she & her sister. - Tamar tried to let bygones be bygones, and have Traci perform at her show and that STILL wasn’t good enough for Traci 🤷🏽♀️ I feel she’s mad at Tamar for something else, and is just using this an an excuse to hold a grudge.. or storyline ☕️
@@Aliasss we all saw that clip and as far as he was told Tamar name was dropped. What people need to be asking is who told him from Tamar's team! But as far as Traci's event Cliff wasnt in the wrong. Traci is his artist. What artist you knows does business without their managers. Tamar knew she was wrong as 2 left shoes for inviting Traci and not Cliff. She would have really been better off not asking Traci at all and doing something else to repair their bond. Tamar surely had her manager everywhere with here at all times. Catch that tea
basketballbabe03 - Tamar and her people are the problem. Traci and her people aren't the problem. Evelyn is the problem in the entire family. She's the stink fish at the head of the issues. Evelyn could tell Tamar to fire those people, who are causing Traci problems. If people working for me have a problem with my sister that ruins her business relations, then I have a problem with the people, who are causing the problem. They would be fired.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 thank you. I like Tamar but people act like drama dont follow her everywhere she go. (In my Ms E voice) Now come on for God sakes! Yall be fans but see when Tamar wrong. Drama dont follow Trina, Towanda or Traci and Toni just has financial issues but never any beef drama. That's all Tamar
Doesn't she! I'm so proud of her for standing up for herself and finally coming into her own. She said it best, "sometimes Tracy bites the bullet" and I know she tired of it cuz I'm tired for her..
Thing is the tense relationship between Tamar and Traci has nothing to do with the falling out of the managers. It's a long-standing issue and believe Traci is drawing the line. Enough is enough, you have to teach people how to treat you.
Very true because truly Traci is the only one out of the sisters that is close to their father. I think Tamar kinda resents Traci because she has the guts to still love and have their dad be apart of her life where the other sisters keep a distance with their father because of what went down with their parents.
I agree with Traci. Sometimes, you have to stay away to keep the peace but at the same time support in mind, heart, and spirit in an effort to maintain a civil blood relationship. Everybody know that Tamar can be more than a handful. 👍
@@sexytrinny52 thank you. These people just don't listen and come here with their preconceived negative judgments and ignore that she said TROY. She had an issue with TROY.
I hate Traci passing! But I’m glad the viewers are scrutinizing how they all treated her! I know they read the comments! I think the last two seasons Traci felt validated by the fans cause it was another perspective from the outside that made her feel like she wasn’t overreacting! They relegated her feelings by ignoring her
It's sad that she's gone but I'm glad that at least near the end, Traci did what she needed to do to keep her peace. Now her soul can be at peace as well, and her sisters gotta live with the regrets cause they could've treated her a lot better. That old school way of thinking Miss Evelyn has does not work. Family is more than just blood alone. #imjustsaying
I noticed that Traci seems to be treated differently lately, but then it hit me that is because she didn't walk out with the rest of the family and kept working. They probably haven't forgiven her.
Traci you are GREAT, GREAT and you have so many fans that adore you. It's so sad how your sister's treat you, really sad. God has BLESSED ya'll so much, WOW your sister's need to treat you the way they want to be treated. With total RESPECT. It makes me sad how your family treats you. So many LOVE you Traci.
But to be honest, Mrs. E was so humble and sweet, now that she's getting Tamar money and the producers are telling her to be different she's not the same any more!!!
And ms. E looks horrible now! She needs to chill on that botox and just age gracefully.... Like we know you old, u should have a few wrinkles here and there and thats ok!
Sometimes the best way to be with some family members is at a distance or not at all. Childhood traumas and parent attachment issues effect how siblings relate to the world and to one another. It's a cocktail of narcissism and codependent personalities. No bueno.
Watching Traci was like watching my own mother, my favorite aunt, and even me. Protecting your peace at all costs requires you to not always bite the bullet for ‘family’. They never know their boundaries and expect you to deal with disrespectful behavior. I refuse and that’s why I completely agree with Traci. ❤❤❤
Towanda personality seem different. The last few episodes she seem so supportive and concern about Tamar. Im not saying she shouldnt because they are sisters but I remember they were not too fond of each other. She just seem so happy for Tamar.
There are some underlying issues within the sisters relationships. Tamar and Mrs E seem to just sweep stuff under the rug. Tamar has been doing Tracy wrong for the last 5 seasons and no one is addressing it. Just the point Ms. Vansant was trying to make i therapy 2 seasons ago??? and they kept on shutting her down. In DMX's voice, I sing... Here we go again! 😕
and when family KEEPS disrespecting you...you pick your ass up and go. The season when Traci did it by herself was extremely telling!!! That was the season of the TRUE BFV!!!
How about not attending your bloods funeral Ms. Evelyn? A child you brought into this world. There is no man, woman or child that would keep me from saying goodbye to the person I said hello to 50 years ago and called her your daughter. Ms. Evelyn often holds Traci accountable when she doesn't support the sisters but rarely does the same when Tamar doesn't do it. Tamar had Traci banned and fired, but Traci is supposed to be the bigger person and turn the other cheek. Rest in peace Traci. You are in the arms of someone that will always put you first.
Yes, I still can't get over her or her siblings not respecting Traci's husband wishes by not attending her home going celebration. They still could have had their own but what they did was foul.
I believe that Tamar feels some type of way against Traci because Traci is not the one who will let Tamar get away with nonsense. Tamar can play ALL of the other sisters but Tamar can not play Traci. Traci you did the right thing. DO NOT LET OUTSIDERS DESTROY YOUR FAMILY. THEY WILL TRY. “WAKE-UP Tamar.”
Absolutely. Iyanla said this line and that thing rocked me on its veracity! Tamar is the outward expression of what's on the inside of Ms. E! I mean damn...such insight and now I can see it - clearly
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 i understand greatly about having peace and keeping positive energy. But in the long run their relationship affects the whole family. As far as tamar being the devil i wont be that harsh but tamar definitely still a work in progress for sure.
Sometimes the mother needs to take her own advice. She's chose to miss out on some things due because she didn't want to be around another individual and their plus one, you don't let anyone keep you from your blood and celebrating them. That goes for all of us!!! I'm still learning this myself. Peace and blessings
I don't fuck with none of my 3 sisters. I cut the whole crew off. Sometimes its best jus staying your distance. Everyone has a reason behind not fucking with someone that's messy..😒
Oh, please. Evelyn is the source of the problem. She's always defending Tamar. Traci is always on the outside like the *Black Sheep* who no one defends.
Looking at this segment I'm thinking that's why it's not worth holding grudges or hate toward people rather family or not. We are all here on earth but or a moment so let's just enjoy each other while we can. Fast forward 2022 now Traci is no longer here I bet Tamar is grieving the most because she's the one that told her she's dead to her!!!! 🙏
No it wasn't Tamar it was Towanda. She got mad because Traci wouldn't help boycott the show. By then Tamar was already gone off the show..see how yall always blame Tamar for stuff. Traci held grudges for 30 years over her own doing. She complained about not being included than later complained about she needed boundries and they was to up in her buiness. I pray she found peace but she too was the reason she lost time with her siblings and mother.
It’s also important to understand how stress and holding resentment eats away at your immune system and prohibits its ability to fight off disease. I wish she had let some of that anger & resentment go. Who knows how many years of her life she took off harboring those grudges.
@@cmapit3220 If I'm wrong and it was Towanda sorry but Tamar didn't treat Traci right either. So let me change it I bet Towanda is taking it the hardest because she said she was dead to her.
Her daughters are in their 40's and 50's. I'm not that old and I don't think my mom is responsible for how I behave as a grown ass man. When I was a kid and lived in her house, yeah she helped shape who I became. Once we are adults, our behavior is on us...not our parents. Also, it's funny how everyone always blames Ms. E but never says anything about their shady fake-nice father.
I agree! She is on the show for a check! She is trying to secure her own bag. For someone who feels fortune and fame is tearing her family apart, she sure loves to be on camera and in the middle of the mess with her daughters!
The more I listen to Evelyn talk about the Tamar/Traci issues the less I like her. I'm sure Traci stepped back because Tamar took the side of Troy over, not Cliff, but Traci. Has Evelyn ever been in Traci's corner????.
Traci don't act like your manager Cliff didn't start it. He very messy and always had some negative to say about everyone. I've said she need a whole new manger anyways.
Angel Spivey right? Now she’s playing dumb like that man didn’t call Tamar’s manager a fag!! That’s why Troy threatened to beat Cliff’s ass! We saw it! 🤷🏽♀️
They did Traci so wrong now all of a sudden they love her so much they should of showed her this same love while she was alive may she rest in peace & I’m speaking in general cause look how this is playing out over social media
Chile! Evelyn musta read my posts! I'm so glad she got rid of that tired as wig! Now... what did she do to her face? 😮 Looks like somebody got some work done! 😉 And why she keep hollering about that's ya sista, that's ya blood? Tamar don't care for nobody but Toni & her mama! Periodt! 🤨
Traci plays the victim, since the beginning. She’s mad about things that happened in the 90’s. That wasn’t anyone’s fault. She’s always has displaced anger towards Tamar, because she’s jealous it’s really just that simple. I have a lot of aunts and cousins so I can see it. Love Tracy but she needs more therapy.
I don't deal with my family after they tried to jump me after my aunt lied on me and forced tears out of her eyes. It occurred April 2018. I was already distant because of previous things they did but her lying saying I hit her and exposed my cousin as gay on social media was the last straw. I'm doing a story time on my channel about it so if yall are interested in hearing it, subscribe. The show may as well come to an end honestly.
I got five sisters and if my sisters treated me like these demons treated Traci I would Focuses on my husband and children and leave these people alone..... Peace of mind is better than trying to get along with your family....
I love how Miss Evelyn is always so sassy and outspoken After the fact. She's always the first to pipe up After something's happened that she "doesn't" agree with, but always let's it happen anyway. A Strange method...
Black sheep foreal. They focused so much on Tamar because of the drama and at the Tamar felt the emptiest. Traci protected herself the whole time and left in peace 🕊️ 💙💯
I’m confused... The argument didn’t involve Traci or Tamar... Traci so thirsty for attention she made it about her. I thought “fix my life” taught her to address her issues instead of holding it in and blaming someone who doesn’t even realize she did anything at all. So annoying
Thank you, so glad someone else sees this. She talks to everyone else about her issues with Tamar but Tamar. Tamar has asked her what's up Traci several times and she always say nothing. Girl wants to be miserable.
First and for most RIH Queen you are missed so very much! I lost my sister to cancer in March of 2021, and I feel the pain so deeply with your loss! 🕊🕊🕊❤️❤️❤️ Next, I just can’t wrap my mind around how much people have to say about these sisters! This is reality TV and they show what will be most popular and that’s dysfunction! Sisters beef and there’s dysfunction in every family! I love Tamar, I love Traci! I am sure that she has made amends with Traci and is suffering with her own grief and guilt! I miss my sister everyday! Each of my siblings are dysfunctional in some way. We have our picks, but we are siblings and NO one can ever speak on what we are and who we are to one another. Please let Tamar, and the rest of the sister’s grieve their sister because no matter what they allowed us to see there’s a bond each of them have that no show or media can depict!
Traci is fighting with Tamar's team because that's the only time she seems to get attention, last year she was the topic of conversation and it only came with a price of going against her sisters. Hang it up Traci unity is the key... No person or or situation is going to stop me from fully supporting my sister it's that simple.
I'm so tried of this cry me a river with Traci game. She wasn't part of the group now she don't want to be around Tamar who she work with. Her manager talk trash about Tamar and her team.
Traci’s passing annoys me so much…she looked the best she ever looked during that last season…her story was not supposed to end this way.
Me too and I wanted her to grow old with her granbaby.
Yes it’s was supposed to end this way. It’s Gods plan. You don’t have a say so in how your story will end.
@Southern Girl Bla bla bla here come the Christians
@@kimberlyjade4094 now don't be disrespectful
@Divine Nsingi Or else what??
Ms. Iyanla, was on it. The Mother is the root to the problems.
PREACH
Really
The parents were a mess
Exactly!!!!!
Miss E could be chilling and y’all would say this mess randomly. At a certain point, these grown ass women need to put in the work to fix themselves instead of harping on past issues. Only you can fix you
Seems like Traci really finally figured out how to put herself first and did what she wanted. Rest well 💜 Traci
That part is correct, she wasn't really getting the respect from her family so she got it from her husband and her son and grandchild. May God continue to watch over her family traci was about that life.
@Tori Adore In my opinion we all go through things in a relationship ups downs in and outs. It's up to the person to decide whether of they want to stay with that individual or not. She did what made her happy and she loves him and stood by his side. She did what was best for her, I always laugh when a when talk about a man cheating as many women out there cheating on their men which is never spoken about js.
@Tori Adore Again what I said was true you may not understand why she stayed with him, you judging her for doing her and not realizing why she stayed with him.
@@kerrylarry8110 amen! Traci's life is so beautiful because she lived it with no worries or regrets... Especially toward the end. With a great partner and family she built, loved and protected. Truly will miss Traci but I now know she's free with all peace and no worry or crying.
@@hifiShont That part is true,
Traci was putting up a protective boundary and people didn’t respect it
EXACTLY
But the conflict wasnt with her sister it was between their managers. Why take it out on your sister. She lost time with her sister over manger arguements. Sometimes mothers are right. Traci held alot of grunges over things that cam be worked out.
FACTS
On top of that it was the wrong sister
Love Traci, but she was bitter. God rest her soul
All your kids are emotionally damaged ..how bout that Ms E? Be free Traci. Say no to dissrespect.
Amen. Evelyn is bat jackass fool, and a know-it-all, who abuses Christianity. I cannot watch this show because I cannot stand her. She's the cause of the division, and as long as, Tamar is funding her bank account, she good with Traci being the *Black Sheep* of the family. I am tired of seeing Traci being abused by them.
Conscious Wright yeah her attitude is so nasty. Like omg
True but what she said wasn't a lie. You don't let someone else come in AND dictate your relationship with your family no matter how screwed up. Not unless you know your family is putting you thru unlawful abuse or something crazy like that.
These lady are grown, they can say and act anyway they want. What the hell does that has to do with ms E. Shit your family has problem 2. I dont know who you ppl think your fooling. Yall have the same old problem just like everyone else.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 you are so right! Even Illyana said the same thing, it's the head of the family that is toxic. And until that is fix they will always dysfunctional.
Just because you’re BLOOD doesn’t mean you’re FAMILY
DILF DEVON You better come on! 💯💯💯
Empress Trini 🙌🏽
@@dilfdevon8581 You betta shut your mouth and keep on talkin'! Some of us don't get that until it is much too late.
DILF DEVON tell it!
THANK YOU!
And sometimes blood do you the filthiest sorry
Right
How can I like this comment 1000 thousand times 😊😊
I just made a comment somewhere else..I understand Ms. E but the same time we have to love and respect each other whether its blood or not. that's what wrong with the world now, blood, blood ,blood. Blood is not always there. Doesnt the Bible say to love one another whether we are blood or not. When this Earth is destroyed there is no guarantee the Braxton family on earth will even see other again because God is going to choose His Kingdom family and the devil will have his family. Point blank!
Girl yes!
You better preach💯
I stopped watching this show years ago. But Traci was always the most genuine ✨💓
Traci had every right to do whatever made her feel comfortable. She should not have had to fake it to support Tamar. I pray that Traci is now at peace 🙏 Her family always wanted her to compromise her peace .
That’s they issue they wanted traci to “front” and baby Tamar it’s not good to make older siblings do that
Right and I wonder why they not on TV right now together saying something nice about Traci. It's sad because Tamar get on Instagram and talk about not important stuff
She lost time with her sister cause she cant "fake it" like her mama said if anything happens to one of them you can't get it back..it sucked she held on to grudge for so long
Speak it! Nothing but facts 💯
@@tas-life231 they dont have to go to social media to impress yall..The moment Tamar Express herself it wasn't good enough for people like yall. Than they want to bring up the arguments they had in their sisterhood. So no let them people grieve without folks like you throwing stones at them.
I can truly relate to Traci. She is treated different from the other sisters
Cause she wasn’t fake and always told it how it was to them
The sisters mirror their mother. I feel like Evelyn always secretly harbored resentment towards Traci for having a relationship with her father and even developing a rapport with his mistress/wife, Miss Wanda. The sisters reflect this resentment and the end result was all of them treating Traci like “the ugly red headed stepchild”.
U said it momma e is the root
Well Said
I think Traci always lived her life in "Nutbush" as TAMAR called it...Severn Maryland aint hardly Nutbush.....BUT......Traci FINALLY found her voice...her boundaries and becoming a DUCHESS......SEEMED TO REALLY MAKE HER TAKE A STAND FOR HERSELF....HER HUSBAND AND HER FAMILY. AND YES....MS E ALWAYS resented that Traci was close to Mr Braxton and Ms. Wanda. Traci even sat with them at Trina's wedding. YET.....When all was said and done....Traci was heard...seen.....and her beautiful presence was felt....and NOW it is GOING TO BE MISSED.❤️💔💔💔❤️
They literally never take Traci side and it’s so annoying.
LET BE REAL TRACEY BIGGEST ISSUE WAS CLIFF HER KEEP DRAMA GOING FOR HER IN HOPES SHE WOULD GET A SPIN OFF
I think Traci is right to do what’s best for her. Knowing your boundaries is important. I love that Traci can now make a stand on what she will and will not tolerate.
T C Tracy is a loose canon
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There is a difference between family and relatives. Genetics doesn't always mean family. Tamar and Traci are relatives.
Conscious Wright Ashe 🙌🏽
Same as I refer to my relatives as 👏👏👏🤷
@@HelenaM7 - I don't really socialize with relatives, especially those who love unnecessary drama.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 Oh believe me I know all about it, got 10 siblings all older but the only one I talk to is our mom. SMH they're too toxic to be called family cause I don't feel the love. It's either relative or estranged so and so.
Tomboy Doll - Blood relations doesn't always equate to the meaning of family. My husband once said to me that it is important that once siblings get older that they like each because even if we distance ourselves love is always there. If we like our siblings, we want to be around them just as we socialize with our friends.
Blood don’t meant anything. Blood can’t be toxic and make you wish you didn’t have that blood in you. Traci was right to stay away. People always say family comes first or family is more important, not when it makes you want to not be apart of it . You have strangers that treat you better than some relative .
Facts
Amen! I had to walk away from some of mine and I feel so much more happier and at peace.
Neither Tamar's team or Traci's team have their best interests. Ms. E is right. They are fighting over people that have nothing to lose. Life is too short for them to be feuding over people that would drop either of them in a second.
basketballbabe03 this happens a lot to celebrities, they let outsiders ruin their relationships with their family members. It shouldn’t be allowed for your hired help to get the upper hand over your own flesh and blood. Tamar quit the play with snoop over this same no good “friend”. I’m sure this same punk was in her ear when she was with Vince. Tamar acts like she was under a rock before and acts like a high school girl, not like a 45 year old GROWN woman! Tracy’s manager also needs to act professional, he is not an angel either. He is also in Tracy’s ear about Tamar! It happened to Michael & Whitney and look what happened to them! No real family around to tell you when your wrong and the truth! These blood sucker snakes need to stay in their lane when it comes to family! But Tracy and Tamar need to get wise and shut it down! They are paying these people not the other way around!
Christian _person - 🤦🏽♀️ Well first of all..
she did NOT quit “Snoop’s” play. She finished off the entire leg of the tour. Stop listening to blogs. Second, it wasn’t because of this same guy.. that had absolutely NOTHING to do with him. That entire situation was about she & her friend (a whole different guy) being disrespected. Third, she’s NOT 45 yet either. Fourth, let’s not sit here and act like Traci’s manager didn’t fuel this discord between Traci & Tamar since last season.. LYING and saying that it was Tamar who got her kicked off of TONI’S tour when that wasn’t true! But Traci didn’t believe her, and just ran with his word. SHE let that man come between she & her sister. - Tamar tried to let bygones be bygones, and have Traci perform at her show and that STILL wasn’t good enough for Traci 🤷🏽♀️ I feel she’s mad at Tamar for something else, and is just using this an an excuse to hold a grudge.. or storyline ☕️
@@Aliasss we all saw that clip and as far as he was told Tamar name was dropped. What people need to be asking is who told him from Tamar's team! But as far as Traci's event Cliff wasnt in the wrong. Traci is his artist. What artist you knows does business without their managers. Tamar knew she was wrong as 2 left shoes for inviting Traci and not Cliff. She would have really been better off not asking Traci at all and doing something else to repair their bond. Tamar surely had her manager everywhere with here at all times. Catch that tea
basketballbabe03 - Tamar and her people are the problem. Traci and her people aren't the problem. Evelyn is the problem in the entire family. She's the stink fish at the head of the issues. Evelyn could tell Tamar to fire those people, who are causing Traci problems.
If people working for me have a problem with my sister that ruins her business relations, then I have a problem with the people, who are causing the problem. They would be fired.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 thank you. I like Tamar but people act like drama dont follow her everywhere she go. (In my Ms E voice) Now come on for God sakes! Yall be fans but see when Tamar wrong. Drama dont follow Trina, Towanda or Traci and Toni just has financial issues but never any beef drama. That's all Tamar
Traci looks beautiful 😊
Doesn't she! I'm so proud of her for standing up for herself and finally coming into her own. She said it best, "sometimes Tracy bites the bullet" and I know she tired of it cuz I'm tired for her..
She does! That hairstyle and the color compliments her complexion and honestly (NO SHADE) makes her look younger.
Lies 😂😂😂
@@-sdot83 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Traci looked beautiful to them.
@@ladennayoung2939 fair enough 💯
Thing is the tense relationship between Tamar and Traci has nothing to do with the falling out of the managers. It's a long-standing issue and believe Traci is drawing the line. Enough is enough, you have to teach people how to treat you.
Yes to this TRUTH"!!?
Twisted Tee iyanla said that seems like traci started to take her advice
Very true because truly Traci is the only one out of the sisters that is close to their father. I think Tamar kinda resents Traci because she has the guts to still love and have their dad be apart of her life where the other sisters keep a distance with their father because of what went down with their parents.
There's something about Mrs E that doesn't sit well with me. 🤔
Donna Bey because she’s 70+ talking about “how bout that” 🙄
Donna Bey. What do you mean? Tell us more.
@@nini28745 LOL she's a suspect, slippery a snake 🐍 sssss I'm always skeptical of a person when they think they're always right.😒😶🤐
@@BlahBronxJodes Lmao😏
and finally the head snake is being revealed. Iyanla caught that shit and now people aren't eating the bull anymore...
I agree with Traci. Sometimes, you have to stay away to keep the peace but at the same time support in mind, heart, and spirit in an effort to maintain a civil blood relationship. Everybody know that Tamar can be more than a handful. 👍
The issue wasn't Tarmar it; her business associates that Tracie had the issue with.
@@sexytrinny52 thank you. These people just don't listen and come here with their preconceived negative judgments and ignore that she said TROY. She had an issue with TROY.
Evelyn never sees anything from Traci’s pov. RIP to Traci, a queen
Tamar acts like her mother .....it was said on iyanaly n I think it’s true 🤷🏽♀️
@@Madajai88 yup
I thought the Mom was cool at first but she not she don't treat Traci right either just pray Traci I know how feel
I understand what Mrs E was saying. But sometimes you do have to guard your heart.
Traci didn't want things to go left.
I love the Braxton's 💜💜
I gotta feeling Evelyn made a difference between them as children.
I hate Traci passing! But I’m glad the viewers are scrutinizing how they all treated her! I know they read the comments! I think the last two seasons Traci felt validated by the fans cause it was another perspective from the outside that made her feel like she wasn’t overreacting! They relegated her feelings by ignoring her
It's sad that she's gone but I'm glad that at least near the end, Traci did what she needed to do to keep her peace. Now her soul can be at peace as well, and her sisters gotta live with the regrets cause they could've treated her a lot better. That old school way of thinking Miss Evelyn has does not work. Family is more than just blood alone. #imjustsaying
THAT'S THE TRUTH
I wonder what regrets Tamar has now. She didn't treat her older sister Traci well.
But......but✋🏽 when ur sister takes the other person side and not believe what u say AND WE'RE BLOOD...... that's when we have a problem MAMA!!!!!
L Blount You’ve missed the mark.
@@a.f.3996 no i didn't i got the point.
L Blount She based all of that off what her shady junkie manager said.
Tamar shouldn’t have invited her manager knowing her sister would be uncomfortable. Traci did the right thing not going and protecting her peace
why should she change her list around FOR HER PARTY to accommodate someone else . . Traci did the right thing , stayed at home!
Blood don't mean nothing; because at times your blood will screw you over more than a stranger will.
I noticed that Traci seems to be treated differently lately, but then it hit me that is because she didn't walk out with the rest of the family and kept working. They probably haven't forgiven her.
Tracis freaking stylish n unique. Love hr hair❤️😭
Both Tamar and Traci are the two sisters that has the most in common. They're both strong willed, that's why they always clashing with one another.
I agree! They are so much alike. That’s also why their one-on-one scenes were the best.
I feel like Traci… I love my family and I’m not gonna cause no pain with them so I distant myself to make peace..
Sounds like Evelyn is on Tamar’s side as usual.
Strawberry Kiss RIGHT!!!
The mother is the 6th sister and the wedge between them all. They are not children
Traci was so at peace after a while and thats what she deserved.
Traci you are GREAT, GREAT and you have so many fans that adore you. It's so sad how your sister's treat you, really sad. God has BLESSED ya'll so much, WOW your sister's need to treat you the way they want to be treated. With total RESPECT. It makes me sad how your family treats you. So many LOVE you Traci.
I love Traci. She’s real, but she’s disrespected by the rest of the family.
I Love when ms E says "how bout THAT!"
But to be honest, Mrs. E was so humble and sweet, now that she's getting Tamar money and the producers are telling her to be different she's not the same any more!!!
Or when she says "for goodness sakes" lol I love Ms. E
And when she says "Well look at God" Ms E. has great sayings
I HATED WHEN SHE SAID....HOW BOUT THAT......HOW BOUT not being a bitter angry old bag of wind🤷🏽♀️🤨
Whatever Towanda did to her face, it looks fab!
I think it’s happiness more than. Anything else. I love it!
She got a divorce
And ms. E looks horrible now! She needs to chill on that botox and just age gracefully.... Like we know you old, u should have a few wrinkles here and there and thats ok!
jeniffer dejesus her face is somehow starting to look like her ex husband
She Prego
She swear she eats with the “how bout that” 😂😂
Sometimes the best way to be with some family members is at a distance or not at all. Childhood traumas and parent attachment issues effect how siblings relate to the world and to one another. It's a cocktail of narcissism and codependent personalities. No bueno.
Traci bites the bullet way more that a whole lotta times. Actually that would be an understatement ijs
Watching Traci was like watching my own mother, my favorite aunt, and even me. Protecting your peace at all costs requires you to not always bite the bullet for ‘family’. They never know their boundaries and expect you to deal with disrespectful behavior. I refuse and that’s why I completely agree with Traci. ❤❤❤
ten thousand thumbs up.
yes.
Watching all these brings everything into a different perspective
Towanda personality seem different. The last few episodes she seem so supportive and concern about Tamar. Im not saying she shouldnt because they are sisters but I remember they were not too fond of each other. She just seem so happy for Tamar.
I see the same.
because Tamar loaned her ass $30k.
They use to be the closest growing up anyway, but when Tamar signed that solo deal, and Towanda got married, their relationship went left.
@@Aliasss it all makes sense now.
" Real or Not"!!?? Jealousy; Competition is rampant in this Messiness"!!Is is Reality or Acting"!?
There are some underlying issues within the sisters relationships. Tamar and Mrs E seem to just sweep stuff under the rug. Tamar has been doing Tracy wrong for the last 5 seasons and no one is addressing it.
Just the point Ms. Vansant was trying to make i therapy 2 seasons ago??? and they kept on shutting her down.
In DMX's voice, I sing...
Here we go again! 😕
and when family KEEPS disrespecting you...you pick your ass up and go. The season when Traci did it by herself was extremely telling!!! That was the season of the TRUE BFV!!!
Tracy act like cliff ain’t messy asf
@human being really did..we saw it lol
Exactly!!!
Right!!!!
Right she know Cliff is on bs
Plus her Manager ain't nobody
How about not attending your bloods funeral Ms. Evelyn? A child you brought into this world. There is no man, woman or child that would keep me from saying goodbye to the person I said hello to 50 years ago and called her your daughter. Ms. Evelyn often holds Traci accountable when she doesn't support the sisters but rarely does the same when Tamar doesn't do it. Tamar had Traci banned and fired, but Traci is supposed to be the bigger person and turn the other cheek. Rest in peace Traci. You are in the arms of someone that will always put you first.
Yes, I still can't get over her or her siblings not respecting Traci's husband wishes by not attending her home going celebration. They still could have had their own but what they did was foul.
@@lt3074 wait, what happened? They didn't attend the funeral? That's so horrible 😭
@@MsPeachesGthey didn’t attend the funeral bc Traci apparently didn’t want one. The husband held a funeral. It’s on UA-cam.
Back then and now, they said Traci didn’t want one.
@@Aname87well we know that now from the new show. 😒
I believe that Tamar feels some type of way against Traci because Traci is not the one who will let Tamar get away with nonsense. Tamar can play ALL of the other sisters but Tamar can not play Traci. Traci you did the right thing. DO NOT LET OUTSIDERS DESTROY YOUR FAMILY. THEY WILL TRY. “WAKE-UP Tamar.”
Can you say a stick of dynamite!!! Tamar Braxton is a younger version of Ms. Evelyn Braxton. All over again hunny!!
GOD BLESS
I dont know how yall get off talking abt someone parent. When your parent is probably no dam better
That part! You said it!
Absolutely. Iyanla said this line and that thing rocked me on its veracity! Tamar is the outward expression of what's on the inside of Ms. E! I mean damn...such insight and now I can see it - clearly
I love you Traci!!! Ma favorite sister
Traci and Tamar are both head strong 💪. They are going to be ok ! About that !! 💕💕
Ms. evelyn spoke a sermon. They take the biggest loss cuz they sisters. Couldnt have said it better.
I disagree. Family doesn't necessarily mean having no relationship is a loss. Sometimes it's more about peace. We all know Tamar is the devil.
I just wish she take up for Traci like she do Tamar
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 i understand greatly about having peace and keeping positive energy. But in the long run their relationship affects the whole family. As far as tamar being the devil i wont be that harsh but tamar definitely still a work in progress for sure.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 so Tamar is the devil but she invited Traci to open for her at two important shows. Mmmkay 🙄
C turner - I am all about family, but peace comes first. People live longer when they don't have foolishness in their lives.
Sometimes the mother needs to take her own advice. She's chose to miss out on some things due because she didn't want to be around another individual and their plus one, you don't let anyone keep you from your blood and celebrating them. That goes for all of us!!! I'm still learning this myself. Peace and blessings
I don't fuck with none of my 3 sisters. I cut the whole crew off. Sometimes its best jus staying your distance. Everyone has a reason behind not fucking with someone that's messy..😒
I love and miss seeing you Tracy… RIH you beautiful angel🙏🏽🕊️🙏🏽
Traci looked so beautiful in her confessional.
God wanted his Angel with him she no longer have to deal with being called the wannabe. Shes truly the apple of Gods eye. 💚🕊❄️ I miss her some serious
🙏🏾
Traci i beg you to protect your peace of mind and if you have to cut somebody off DO IOIIIIIT
Traci passing away is so cruel to me. She deserved better
Can somebody give Mama BRAXTON a COVER GIRL contract.she's beautiful 💐
BOTH Traci and Tamar need to listen to the knowledge Mama E just dropped! 🤷🏾♀️
Oh, please. Evelyn is the source of the problem. She's always defending Tamar. Traci is always on the outside like the *Black Sheep* who no one defends.
@@consciousanfesiashapsnikof8688 Exactly
i feel bad for traci don't like cliff but i just want to hug traci i think her and mikey got to be the closest...mommy telling the truth
Tracy was hatting GODBLESS HER
Momma E said that!!
Miss Evelyn swore she was eating it up in those confessionals, ahahahaha I was living for it no shade 🤣🤣
Traci and Tamar team is messy. I don’t understand why you would allow someone else to affect your sisterhood.
Summer C exactly. It’s ridiculous.
So we’re just going to act as if Traci’s manger didn’t start all this drama since last season? 🤣
@@Aliasss He straight up lied with no chaser!!!!
Lajuana Phillips - Exactly.
& neither him, nor Traci apologized publicly, after accusing her publicly.
MONEY BUSINESS
Looking at this segment I'm thinking that's why it's not worth holding grudges or hate toward people rather family or not. We are all here on earth but or a moment so let's just enjoy each other while we can. Fast forward 2022 now Traci is no longer here I bet Tamar is grieving the most because she's the one that told her she's dead to her!!!! 🙏
No it wasn't Tamar it was Towanda. She got mad because Traci wouldn't help boycott the show. By then Tamar was already gone off the show..see how yall always blame Tamar for stuff. Traci held grudges for 30 years over her own doing. She complained about not being included than later complained about she needed boundries and they was to up in her buiness. I pray she found peace but she too was the reason she lost time with her siblings and mother.
It’s also important to understand how stress and holding resentment eats away at your immune system and prohibits its ability to fight off disease. I wish she had let some of that anger & resentment go. Who knows how many years of her life she took off harboring those grudges.
@@ambermarie8027 Yes I DEFINITELY agree with you on that!!!!
Y'all ASSumed it was Tamar but it wasn't even her. One person can't be wrong 100% of the time. It was another sister that said it.
@@cmapit3220 If I'm wrong and it was Towanda sorry but Tamar didn't treat Traci right either. So let me change it I bet Towanda is taking it the hardest because she said she was dead to her.
Evelyn’s old school way of thinking I get it but people gotta set boundaries
I use to like Ms. E but now she just makes me sick. She always acts like she not responsible for how her daughters behave but she actually is.
Her daughters are in their 40's and 50's. I'm not that old and I don't think my mom is responsible for how I behave as a grown ass man. When I was a kid and lived in her house, yeah she helped shape who I became. Once we are adults, our behavior is on us...not our parents. Also, it's funny how everyone always blames Ms. E but never says anything about their shady fake-nice father.
I agree! She is on the show for a check! She is trying to secure her own bag. For someone who feels fortune and fame is tearing her family apart, she sure loves to be on camera and in the middle of the mess with her daughters!
RIP Tracy!! 🥺😔♥️
Poor Tracie…. Much Luv and Respect girl.. 🥰 their loss
Love Traci’s green blazer 💚
The more I listen to Evelyn talk about the Tamar/Traci issues the less I like her. I'm sure Traci stepped back because Tamar took the side of Troy over, not Cliff, but Traci. Has Evelyn ever been in Traci's corner????.
Traci don't act like your manager Cliff didn't start it. He very messy and always had some negative to say about everyone. I've said she need a whole new manger anyways.
Angel Spivey right? Now she’s playing dumb like that man didn’t call Tamar’s manager a fag!! That’s why Troy threatened to beat Cliff’s ass! We saw it! 🤷🏽♀️
I totally agree!
TRACI HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BEST SISTER
They did Traci so wrong now all of a sudden they love her so much they should of showed her this same love while she was alive may she rest in peace & I’m speaking in general cause look how this is playing out over social media
Those sisters purposely put Traci out there to humiliate her BFV was nothing a faint Traci Ritual until they 🩸 sacrificed their sisters .
Chile! Evelyn musta read my posts! I'm so glad she got rid of that tired as wig! Now... what did she do to her face? 😮 Looks like somebody got some work done! 😉 And why she keep hollering about that's ya sista, that's ya blood? Tamar don't care for nobody but Toni & her mama! Periodt! 🤨
Rest well Traci 🙏🏾🙌🏾🕊
Tracy has to let it go, she will never let her life move forward if she holds on to the past I know. Trust this 52 woman who has been through a lot.
That mother is a piece of work.
Traci plays the victim, since the beginning. She’s mad about things that happened in the 90’s. That wasn’t anyone’s fault. She’s always has displaced anger towards Tamar, because she’s jealous it’s really just that simple. I have a lot of aunts and cousins so I can see it. Love Tracy but she needs more therapy.
I don't deal with my family after they tried to jump me after my aunt lied on me and forced tears out of her eyes. It occurred April 2018. I was already distant because of previous things they did but her lying saying I hit her and exposed my cousin as gay on social media was the last straw.
I'm doing a story time on my channel about it so if yall are interested in hearing it, subscribe.
The show may as well come to an end honestly.
MANE MAMA E THO❤️ SHE PLAYS NO GAMES
Traci has HAD IT
I got five sisters and if my sisters treated me like these demons treated Traci I would Focuses on my husband and children and leave these people alone..... Peace of mind is better than trying to get along with your family....
I love how Miss Evelyn is always so sassy and outspoken After the fact. She's always the first to pipe up After something's happened that she "doesn't" agree with, but always let's it happen anyway. A Strange method...
Sorry Mom.
You aren't right.
Its old school stuff.
Black sheep foreal. They focused so much on Tamar because of the drama and at the Tamar felt the emptiest. Traci protected herself the whole time and left in peace 🕊️ 💙💯
“Traci bite the bullet a whole lot of times” they played in her face so much smh
Sometime you have to be apart from your family, because your family member will take the other person side
I’m confused... The argument didn’t involve Traci or Tamar... Traci so thirsty for attention she made it about her. I thought “fix my life” taught her to address her issues instead of holding it in and blaming someone who doesn’t even realize she did anything at all. So annoying
Thank you, so glad someone else sees this. She talks to everyone else about her issues with Tamar but Tamar. Tamar has asked her what's up Traci several times and she always say nothing. Girl wants to be miserable.
Sheila Jackson and people’s blaming Tamar like she’s Traci manager
Traci and Tamar have similar personalities that’s why they didn’t get along 🤷🏾♂️
Not at all
@@damnjfreedom270 I mean they do if you think about Tamar got a smart mouth and Traci gets buck back most of the time when Tamar pops off the mouth
First and for most RIH Queen you are missed so very much! I lost my sister to cancer in March of 2021, and I feel the pain so deeply with your loss! 🕊🕊🕊❤️❤️❤️
Next, I just can’t wrap my mind around how much people have to say about these sisters! This is reality TV and they show what will be most popular and that’s dysfunction! Sisters beef and there’s dysfunction in every family! I love Tamar, I love Traci! I am sure that she has made amends with Traci and is suffering with her own grief and guilt! I miss my sister everyday! Each of my siblings are dysfunctional in some way. We have our picks, but we are siblings and NO one can ever speak on what we are and who we are to one another. Please let Tamar, and the rest of the sister’s grieve their sister because no matter what they allowed us to see there’s a bond each of them have that no show or media can depict!
Ms. E is annoying me with the “how bout that!” Bullshyt…. Like ma’am… you said nothing that profound
Traci is fighting with Tamar's team because that's the only time she seems to get attention, last year she was the topic of conversation and it only came with a price of going against her sisters. Hang it up Traci unity is the key... No person or or situation is going to stop me from fully supporting my sister it's that simple.
daveveda20 👌🏿
RIP Mrs.Tracy🤍
Lmaoooo The comments.. How bout that ! 😂 😭
I'm so tried of this cry me a river with Traci game. She wasn't part of the group now she don't want to be around Tamar who she work with. Her manager talk trash about Tamar and her team.