Love your podcast. One bit of feedback- sometimes when you have super-high-level guests like Kasparov, he's explaining something that C^2 understand inately but your guests don't have the same experience. This is an opportunity for one of the Cs to elaborate for more of a lay/YT audience
Fabis greatness is shown in this podcast. Spoke minimally (just asked questions), listened with intrigue and when Gary praised Hikaru and Magnus, you could not sense even an iota of brashness (like some people hint at some events where they were brilliant just to earn their praise, Fabi could have easily brought up Sinq 2014 or spoken more on his recent run or something like that in some context and earned praise).a lot to lean as a person from Fabi in this podcast, thanks
@@b3rnoit was a double round robin tournament with six participants, that were, if not the six best players in the world, damn close to it. Fabi won his first seven games than drew the remaining three, winning the event with what I believe is the highest performance rating ever to this day.
0:00 Intro 0:35 Garry becoming WC 3:00 Chess emotions of winning/losing 4:30 Thoughts after Kramnik Match / Rematch? 9:54 why was Garry so dominant 12:18 working with very first computers (+bonus Garry's iconic laugh) 14:40 Garry's old analyses leaked + old vs new analyses 18:10 Psychology playing a part in chess? 19:40 Fabi's motivation 20:28 computer vs over-the-board work 23:33 trusting engines 30:38 Garry's early coaching with Botvinnik 36:09 Garry coaching US juniors 37:25 Garry coaching Magnus + Magnus' weakness 42:08 Losing some skills while rounding as a player? 45:11 coaching Hikaru + differences with Magnus 46:30 Hikaru's comeback 50:21 most significant chess players in history 54:55 why Magnus stopped playing WC 58:13 Garry the organizer + Grand Chess Tour 1:01:46 contribution of St. Louis to chess 1:04:04 Kasparov Chess Foundation in Europe 1:04:36 Garry's feelings playing chess now 1:07:11 Outro
And so much credit to Cristian and Fabi for creating an environment and conversation to let Garry really be himself and talk passionately about the game he loves. As good as Cris is as chess and coaching, his interview skills are perhaps even better.
It is just insane to me that we can watch 2 of the 3 only players to breach 2850 (live rating) ever just sit down and chat like this, completely for free. It is truly a special privilege to live in a time where we as chess fans get these intimate insights into the absolutely brilliant minds that have formed the game for decades!
This might be one of my favorite roundtable chess discussions ever. C-Squared continues to make legendary chess content that will be relevant for years to come. Thank you, gents.
I will never forgive Kramnik for disallowing the rematch. However, I also was unhappy that Shirov did not get his opportunity. The great irony of the game of chess is that it may be the most fair and balanced game ever created. Yet, it can be the opposite outside of the 64 squares it is played on. Great interview.
@@misteratoz nope. old ELO was more valuable. Todays elo rating has less value in comparison because of tech power, human chess power increases along that. Can you imagine Kasparov or Fisher with todays computer help?? Maybe you can, thats why you cant compare today players ELO with old players elo and say Rating is all.
That example Caruana gave about Fritz being totally misguided against Stockfish was very interesting. Very relevant now too with us increasingly trusting what AI tells us even without understanding how it has reached it's conclusions.
I got into chess because my grandad bought me a Kasparov electric chess machine. I stayed with chess because I found out who Garry was as a person. This is an excellent conversation, and I'd genuinely love to meet Garry one day.
So interesting hearing all the chess history from the source himself...31:54 saying Nikitin spotted him playing for board 5 for the Azeri team and sent an invitation to meet Botvinnik...and that must be the same co-author of the Sicilian Scheveningen book by Kasparov that I read years ago! So funny how the same names pop up.
I saw Kasparov play in the WTC when I was 10 - I have followed his whole career and people are too hard on him, let him be human and appreciate the great things he brings to the table. Thank you for the podcast.
Unless you add Cristian, it would be so awkward lol. Though I have to give Fabi some credit as a moderator. Imagine being a top-3 player in the world and week after week patiently listening to your guests rhapsodize the other top players while you calmly maintain your roll as gracious host. Props Fabi.
You guys are literally the best and bringing literally THE BEST people. Super lucky to watch these people. I guess Magnus would be coming soon, would be super epic seeing Fabi and Magnus together in a podcast🔥❤️
All these years later and you can tell he is still sooooo passionate about chess and current events. Listen to his answers.. not ONE generic answer. Every single question gets answered in detail with enthusiasm. I think this is interesting and definitely why he was/is so legendary. Pure passion and you can’t deny that.
18:12 Caruana asks if part of Kasparov's advantage after the openings was psychology. Apparently in the game where he beat Kramnik in the Berlin in 2001 after losing the world title because he couldn't win against Kramnik in that opening, Kramnik was so worried about Kasparov using a novelty when Kasparov chose that opening that Kramnik changed one of his own moves first, and Kramnik ended up confused, wasted an hour on a following move, and then ended up in time trouble and blundered and lost. So we never even got to find out if Kasparov had a new move planned to try and beat Kramnik, because in that game Kramnik essentially defeated himself before Kasparov could.
At 0:00, that's a video of a blitz game of Kasparov Vs Anand, and Kasparov made a huge binder, and he himself called it his biggest blunder of his entire career.
Man I was just watching his interviews with Levitov chess. Kasparov is such a genius I've read all of My Great Predecessors went through every game now going through Kasparov on Kasparov vol 2 its amazing.
Kasparov is world class when it comes to chess, but I wouldn't call him a genius. Average intelligence probably. Whenever Kasparov talks about topics other than chess, he says ignorant stuff pretty regularly. Kasparov believed the myth that a grand masters brain burns thousands of calories during a match. This would be like a genius believing if you swallow a piece of bubble gum, it stays in your stomach for 7 years.
@@NikoBased You burn thousands of calories a week even while sleeping. The ignorant one here is obviously you. Don't comment on stuff you have no idea about, please.
"passion kept me going. the fire that was never extinguished." love that. passion is exactly what seems to be missing from professional sports in America today.
I only just listened to this, but it was a pleasure to do so. It's amazing to have one of the best players in the world interview someone who was even better. I hope you both got to play some games and enjoyed that experience. As a low titled player, I've definitely lost skills (context about 43 minutes in) as I peruse other things, but it comes back fairly quickly when I choose to compete. I could see it being different at Fabi or Kasparov's levels.
Another wonderful episode guys, as always. One suggestion: The start seems so sudden whenever there is a guest. Would feel more natural and fitting if you guys would welcome him on camera, and introduce him to the audience. Asking a question as soon as the camera starts rolling, feels kind of awkward.
What a wonderful interview. Gary gave a great perspective on chess history that I liked much better than his books on world champions, and Fabi was so laid back and calm. I would love to see Fabi as world champion.
This is really great. Would love for you to have him on again two or three more times. Your approach is perfect, too-- real questions, no hero-worship stuff. Kasparov seemed quite at ease, which made him more spontaneous.
I think it was more about the preparation vs the gain for magnus. The time he has to put in preparation was too much compared to his monetary gain from playing all the shorter time formats tournaments leading up to it. Plus the rigid format of only timed classicals, he wanted other formats added in to match the current climate of shorter matches which helps distinguishing the mastery in different formats rather than the overly prepared boring draws in classicals.
Great interview Christan, Fabi! Congrats! The last time I saw something so much instructive was in the book about the great Kasparov "Mortal Games". Cheers from Portugal! "Viriatovitch"
Thank you for giving us a great podcast. Your content is fantastic. really appreciate the fact that as a chess fan with a rating of 1200 i can watch your podcast. You keep it simple and at a level everyone can enjoy
Love how Kasparov uses himself and Karpov as definitions of styles, and all of us understand exactly what he means at 39:31 . This is what it means to be a living legend.
It is unfathomable to have an hour+ interview, talk about the greats of all eras and not even mention Vishy Anand! Anand transcends generations and styles of chess and stayed at the very top for so long and still there!
Interesting hearing Fabi talk about the engine saying a position is winning but that you still have to be able to find it. That was pretty true in his last game of the candidates, which I think he was too hard on himself about. Especially the Ka1 vs Ka2 move. Ka1 was such a natural move.
The more I listen to different chess players, the more I appreciate Fabiano. He is always clear, coherent and rational. Unlike many top rated chess players.
Great interview. Alway a pleasure to to learn more from Kasparov. Also here there were many good, intelligent questions from the interviewers. Very good :-)
Would love know Garry's perspective about whether the current format/structure of the World Championship effectively identifies the world's best chess player. I think this was one of the reason given by magnus at some point.
I was ok with him saying kramnik's contributions are bigger than vishy to the theory of chess but the question was who are the significant chess players throughout history and he could have mentioned vishy after kramnik, Vishy's contributions have led to an entire country becoming the strongest chess nation. He was from a country where chess was nowhere on the same planet as soviet chess.
Garry's face when he played Magnus in that Rapid game was hilarious. And the fact Magnus kept on wondering off whilst playing the best chess player of all time. 😂
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I think we need a goat with fabi hair and glasses.
What's with the cafeteria lighting/spotlight? Lower and softer light would be 10x better. Christian's skin tone looks ghostly is some shots!
Love your podcast. One bit of feedback- sometimes when you have super-high-level guests like Kasparov, he's explaining something that C^2 understand inately but your guests don't have the same experience. This is an opportunity for one of the Cs to elaborate for more of a lay/YT audience
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"As long as you compete against your own excellence, you never run out of opponents". Profound!
True
Wonderful interview, and insight by the Great Garry
Fabis greatness is shown in this podcast. Spoke minimally (just asked questions), listened with intrigue and when Gary praised Hikaru and Magnus, you could not sense even an iota of brashness (like some people hint at some events where they were brilliant just to earn their praise, Fabi could have easily brought up Sinq 2014 or spoken more on his recent run or something like that in some context and earned praise).a lot to lean as a person from Fabi in this podcast, thanks
What happened in Sinq 2014, can you elaborate on that?
@@b3rnoHe won 8 or 9 games of chess in a row vs the best dudes in the world in classical chess which is never seen nowadays esp so recent as 2014
He is stable and mature. Next world champion
@@b3rnoit was a double round robin tournament with six participants, that were, if not the six best players in the world, damn close to it. Fabi won his first seven games than drew the remaining three, winning the event with what I believe is the highest performance rating ever to this day.
Good one bro
0:00 Intro
0:35 Garry becoming WC
3:00 Chess emotions of winning/losing
4:30 Thoughts after Kramnik Match / Rematch?
9:54 why was Garry so dominant
12:18 working with very first computers (+bonus Garry's iconic laugh)
14:40 Garry's old analyses leaked + old vs new analyses
18:10 Psychology playing a part in chess?
19:40 Fabi's motivation
20:28 computer vs over-the-board work
23:33 trusting engines
30:38 Garry's early coaching with Botvinnik
36:09 Garry coaching US juniors
37:25 Garry coaching Magnus + Magnus' weakness
42:08 Losing some skills while rounding as a player?
45:11 coaching Hikaru + differences with Magnus
46:30 Hikaru's comeback
50:21 most significant chess players in history
54:55 why Magnus stopped playing WC
58:13 Garry the organizer + Grand Chess Tour
1:01:46 contribution of St. Louis to chess
1:04:04 Kasparov Chess Foundation in Europe
1:04:36 Garry's feelings playing chess now
1:07:11 Outro
Thankyou!
Thanks!!
you missed the little orgasm at 58:03
This is Gary Kasparov everyone. Let us appreciate that we are part of this generation to witness history.
The symbol of chess 🐐
And so much credit to Cristian and Fabi for creating an environment and conversation to let Garry really be himself and talk passionately about the game he loves. As good as Cris is as chess and coaching, his interview skills are perhaps even better.
He is simply the GOAT only because he is the few WC that didn't go batshit crazy..
Thanks for pointing it out, wasnt quite sure.
the real garry chess
It is just insane to me that we can watch 2 of the 3 only players to breach 2850 (live rating) ever just sit down and chat like this, completely for free. It is truly a special privilege to live in a time where we as chess fans get these intimate insights into the absolutely brilliant minds that have formed the game for decades!
getting garry to make an interview here is like a dream come true from my childhood, thans c-squared team, much love
This might be one of my favorite roundtable chess discussions ever. C-Squared continues to make legendary chess content that will be relevant for years to come. Thank you, gents.
I will never forgive Kramnik for disallowing the rematch. However, I also was unhappy that Shirov did not get his opportunity. The great irony of the game of chess is that it may be the most fair and balanced game ever created. Yet, it can be the opposite outside of the 64 squares it is played on.
Great interview.
Im conclusion Kramnik is full of shit
Get your popcorn and gather round folks.
Exactly!
You're pathetic
#2 and #3 highest rated players of all time in a conversation. amazing
And I am the #4 best player watching this podcast
rating is not all, more considering these times with machines... Garry and Fisher had less help from machines.
@@futuropasado rating is all.
@@misteratoz nope. old ELO was more valuable. Todays elo rating has less value in comparison because of tech power, human chess power increases along that. Can you imagine Kasparov or Fisher with todays computer help?? Maybe you can, thats why you cant compare today players ELO with old players elo and say Rating is all.
@@futuropasado lol k.
That example Caruana gave about Fritz being totally misguided against Stockfish was very interesting. Very relevant now too with us increasingly trusting what AI tells us even without understanding how it has reached it's conclusions.
*its
When I watch Hikaru analyze games, he's constantly say, "The computer says white/black is better, but I don't know why."
This podcast is HISTORIC
History speaks for itself!
Except the part where he considered Kramnik above Anand
That was expected. Kasparov never liked Anand much.
Super Quote
Incredible content for us
"You can't fight age"...so true, yet Kasparov's joy and spirit remain at 100%!
In both chess and life, there always another move - Garry Chess
Kasparovs charisma radiates through, truly a guy who wears his heart on his sleeve
easy now, he is clearly in the running for the greatest chess player in history, but let's just say he isn't thought of as a nice guy by anyone
@@sliceserve234 charisma doesnt necessarily equal nice
@@spiked415 sigh
Brutal honesty is a hallmark of all these legends
Anand Carlsen Kasparov
Even Caruana!
Hope be becomes world champion!
I got into chess because my grandad bought me a Kasparov electric chess machine. I stayed with chess because I found out who Garry was as a person. This is an excellent conversation, and I'd genuinely love to meet Garry one day.
It's always a pleasure to listen to Garry. A brilliant mind and a role model.
So interesting hearing all the chess history from the source himself...31:54 saying Nikitin spotted him playing for board 5 for the Azeri team and sent an invitation to meet Botvinnik...and that must be the same co-author of the Sicilian Scheveningen book by Kasparov that I read years ago! So funny how the same names pop up.
I saw Kasparov play in the WTC when I was 10 - I have followed his whole career and people are too hard on him, let him be human and appreciate the great things he brings to the table. Thank you for the podcast.
Who is hard on the GOAT?
@@acousticmario6109 im pretty hard
Vishy's contribution is inspiring as whole damn chess nation at 53:00
We need a podcast with Magnus, Fabi, Gary and Hikaru, wow would that be insane!
Unless you add Cristian, it would be so awkward lol. Though I have to give Fabi some credit as a moderator. Imagine being a top-3 player in the world and week after week patiently listening to your guests rhapsodize the other top players while you calmly maintain your roll as gracious host. Props Fabi.
@@kingtaj I was only talking about guests, of course Christian would be the moderator, it's his podcast. lol
@@kingtajChristian is a gm also I'll remind you. He knows more about chess than 99% of the people watching it
No, we need the real stars. Agdam, Sagar, Gotham. Hans could be the host.
I would add Ivanchuk in that group Glad you didn''t include Anish.
Wow, tremendous respect for the living legend, Garry Kasparov.
You guys are literally the best and bringing literally THE BEST people. Super lucky to watch these people. I guess Magnus would be coming soon, would be super epic seeing Fabi and Magnus together in a podcast🔥❤️
How long have we been waiting to have Garry on C2! Thank you Grand Master Kasparov for sharing your time with us! ❤️
All these years later and you can tell he is still sooooo passionate about chess and current events. Listen to his answers.. not ONE generic answer. Every single question gets answered in detail with enthusiasm. I think this is interesting and definitely why he was/is so legendary. Pure passion and you can’t deny that.
Many thanks for the video. I grew up with Kasparov world champion and number 1 and it's interesting to know some details of his chess life career.
What? Kasparov? I never thought they'd actually do it. That's amazing!
18:12 Caruana asks if part of Kasparov's advantage after the openings was psychology. Apparently in the game where he beat Kramnik in the Berlin in 2001 after losing the world title because he couldn't win against Kramnik in that opening, Kramnik was so worried about Kasparov using a novelty when Kasparov chose that opening that Kramnik changed one of his own moves first, and Kramnik ended up confused, wasted an hour on a following move, and then ended up in time trouble and blundered and lost. So we never even got to find out if Kasparov had a new move planned to try and beat Kramnik, because in that game Kramnik essentially defeated himself before Kasparov could.
So heartwarming to see Kasparov laugh😊
Starting the podcast video with a clip of Gary's worst blunder is so funny to me
Can you elaborate?
At 0:00, that's a video of a blitz game of Kasparov Vs Anand, and Kasparov made a huge binder, and he himself called it his biggest blunder of his entire career.
Maybe he requested it that way? Only thing I think makes sense.
Man I was just watching his interviews with Levitov chess. Kasparov is such a genius I've read all of My Great Predecessors went through every game now going through Kasparov on Kasparov vol 2 its amazing.
Has your level of chess increased after vol1?
Kasparov is world class when it comes to chess, but I wouldn't call him a genius. Average intelligence probably. Whenever Kasparov talks about topics other than chess, he says ignorant stuff pretty regularly. Kasparov believed the myth that a grand masters brain burns thousands of calories during a match. This would be like a genius believing if you swallow a piece of bubble gum, it stays in your stomach for 7 years.
@NikoAniki6 he also was believing in the New Chronology (by Fomenko) 😂 and let's not mention what he says when it comes to politics 😅
@@NikoBased You burn thousands of calories a week even while sleeping. The ignorant one here is obviously you. Don't comment on stuff you have no idea about, please.
@@andrewzolotukhin6043 I guess you are a great Putin lover. A typical Russian troll working for 50 roubles, poor guy, I feel sorry for you. :)
Edit:the final moment between Garry and Fabi was so wholesome!
Feel privileged to be here early! 🙈
Good this Garry was able to travel all the way from The Shire to do this interview.
Eagles flew him straight to Mordor.
This is one of the best interviews about chess I have seen in the last years. Keep going!
mr garry chess himself!👑
Gary Chess inventor of chess
Very interesting episode! I would love to see Peter Leko on the podcast, I'm sure he has many stories to share!
This!!!
Just want to comment for the algorithm and how underrated this podcast is!!
I rarely finish a chess video this long. But hey this is The Great Garry Kasparov. Thank you C-Squared.
"passion kept me going. the fire that was never extinguished." love that. passion is exactly what seems to be missing from professional sports in America today.
Only 2 lost games out of 60. Kramnik these days would say that was ''interesting''. Hikaru covers this point very well.
I only just listened to this, but it was a pleasure to do so. It's amazing to have one of the best players in the world interview someone who was even better.
I hope you both got to play some games and enjoyed that experience.
As a low titled player, I've definitely lost skills (context about 43 minutes in) as I peruse other things, but it comes back fairly quickly when I choose to compete. I could see it being different at Fabi or Kasparov's levels.
Garry is a truly brilliant individual. It is always a pleasure to listen to him, regardless of the topic he's discussing.
Its great to be able to hear thoughts and stories first hand from such a legend, truly a unique time to be alive.
Love that Kasparov came on. Love the pod. Look into better lighting. Love yall regardless.
Now this is a pleasant surprise!
This video should hit at least a million. Common guys
Another wonderful episode guys, as always. One suggestion: The start seems so sudden whenever there is a guest. Would feel more natural and fitting if you guys would welcome him on camera, and introduce him to the audience. Asking a question as soon as the camera starts rolling, feels kind of awkward.
What Gary says about work is so true. I've never worked on something in my life that did not pay dividents later on.
Second and third highest rated players of all time sit down and talk chess! Goated pod
What a great podcast! Garry is a LEGEND!
Kasparov: legend, GOAT contender. Chirilluana: legendary podcast duo.
WHAT A POWERFUL VIDEO!!KASPAROV!!
He's such a special person.
What a wonderful interview. Gary gave a great perspective on chess history that I liked much better than his books on world champions, and Fabi was so laid back and calm. I would love to see Fabi as world champion.
This is really great. Would love for you to have him on again two or three more times. Your approach is perfect, too-- real questions, no hero-worship stuff. Kasparov seemed quite at ease, which made him more spontaneous.
I think it was more about the preparation vs the gain for magnus. The time he has to put in preparation was too much compared to his monetary gain from playing all the shorter time formats tournaments leading up to it. Plus the rigid format of only timed classicals, he wanted other formats added in to match the current climate of shorter matches which helps distinguishing the mastery in different formats rather than the overly prepared boring draws in classicals.
Wow, guys... this is a precious Christmas Special 🙂 Thank you so much!!!
he mentioned for Fabi chess is first and foremost work and for Anish he really enjoys the process
I wish they had asked him about the future of Kasparovchess
This is a great interview. Props guys.
Great interview Christan, Fabi! Congrats! The last time I saw something so much instructive was in the book about the great Kasparov "Mortal Games". Cheers from Portugal! "Viriatovitch"
Awesome, guys. Garry is the best interview in chess by far.
true. the most intellectual, charismatic, interesting person in chess world
Woooooiiiiiiii!!!!!!! Lets go Big upload from Christian, Fabi and The other GOAT! i luv me some Garry Kasparov! what a legend
Oh shit they got Gary on the pod!? Bois we made it
You can feel the respect and silent admiration from the hosts.
Really appreciated!
Wonderful interview and insight by Garry
Someone who is champion for that long, deserves a rematch. I wish we could've seen a Kasparov vs Kramnik 2.
the inventor of chess!!!!!
So glad to see you interviewing Gru from Despicable Me, I had no idea Gary Kasparov was a voice actor
oh man..lol
Thank you for giving us a great podcast. Your content is fantastic. really appreciate the fact that as a chess fan with a rating of 1200 i can watch your podcast. You keep it simple and at a level everyone can enjoy
The Guest in this show are really good Quality thanks for doing this podcast ❤
This is great. C squared podcast is best.
52:28 magician is mentioned❤
Love how Kasparov uses himself and Karpov as definitions of styles, and all of us understand exactly what he means at 39:31 . This is what it means to be a living legend.
All I can say about this podcast is "Wow". Thanks for putting a smile on my face this morning.
18:38 very good advice in life
Kasparov is the GOAT!
thx for this interview
You could not see that Gary invented chess from how humble he spoke
👀greetings from Levitov Chess for all our friends
It is unfathomable to have an hour+ interview, talk about the greats of all eras and not even mention Vishy Anand! Anand transcends generations and styles of chess and stayed at the very top for so long and still there!
What a legend and what a treat, great podcast!!
Can’t wait to watch this after work.
Incredible
HELL YES. Now we just need magnus and we are done for life.
Interesting hearing Fabi talk about the engine saying a position is winning but that you still have to be able to find it. That was pretty true in his last game of the candidates, which I think he was too hard on himself about. Especially the Ka1 vs Ka2 move. Ka1 was such a natural move.
The more I listen to different chess players, the more I appreciate Fabiano. He is always clear, coherent and rational. Unlike many top rated chess players.
Imagine sitting by a table with Gary Kasparov!🤩
Could you include time stamped sections in the video for the topics please?
Great interview. Alway a pleasure to to learn more from Kasparov. Also here there were many good, intelligent questions from the interviewers. Very good :-)
Great interview. I've been away from chess fo a couple decades. Enjoyed GK's perspective.
Congrats on a great episode and on treating a legend the way he should be.
Would love know Garry's perspective about whether the current format/structure of the World Championship effectively identifies the world's best chess player. I think this was one of the reason given by magnus at some point.
I was ok with him saying kramnik's contributions are bigger than vishy to the theory of chess but the question was who are the significant chess players throughout history and he could have mentioned vishy after kramnik, Vishy's contributions have led to an entire country becoming the strongest chess nation. He was from a country where chess was nowhere on the same planet as soviet chess.
What a great show ! what great questions !
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Thank you.
Garry is an alpha animal. He is a genius, but not without failsures.
:)
No animal! He is uberhuman!
Garry's face when he played Magnus in that Rapid game was hilarious. And the fact Magnus kept on wondering off whilst playing the best chess player of all time. 😂
So happy you had Kasparov on the show!
This podcast really is something special that happened to chess! :)