Both of these were finished with the sole purpose of covering up sub par initial maturations. They just reinforce my decision to stay with core range expressions. As long as it doesn't overpower the whisky, I prefer Oloroso for the deeper fruit notes.
Wow!! No wonder a big box liquor store by me discounted these by 38%. It is selling for $74 USD now’s It is an 11 year old bottled in 2022 that was also matured in a PX puncheon. They finally gave up on them.
For how much I love the Glendronach 18, I would still prefer a good, sweet almost sticky PX. Even though I love port the best among the category of fortified wines (and good port finished whiskeys are so yummy)
For a sherry I much prefer Oloroso over PX, but like you I also really like Palo Cortado and Moscatel. For a whisky I generally prefer Oloroso over PX influence. Alas, I have no (known) experience with Montilla, but at least with sherries labeled Jerez D.O. the PX doesn't have the depth of flavour of the better Olorosos incl. the magic of rancio. PX sherries--not all, but some--can be just ungodly sweet and syrupy and so nigh-on undrinkable.
What reputation? The Beam/Suntory era was absolute garbage. Bowmore went down the toilet and their reputation is rock bottom. As soon as I heard what happened with the Glendronach/Benriach takeover I thought the writing was on the wall.
@@WhiskyJason1 Yes I totally agree now that I thought about it. She doesn't have full control to buy or do the best techniques and barrels as they control the $$$. I'm hearing some fear the quality of Glendronach now will go downhill as the owners seeking more profits!
Sherry information - Nearly all the Pedro Ximenez grapes and wine comes from outside the 'Sherry Triangle' area in Cadiz and is actually from Montilla in the Cordoba region where they make all their fino, amontillado, oloroso and px with the Pedro Ximenez grape. They aren't allowed to use the word sherry even though it is. The wines from Montilla, including Pedro Ximenez are not fortified and reach the alcohol level naturally which is a cause of much local pride. Pedro Ximenez is a completely different wine to Oloroso and the use of the word sherry is misleading. It's like beer and cider. My feeling with what is going on with Glendronach and Benriach is that casks such as these were aged in the Billy Walker period to be blended into the core expressions. They now have the opportunity to dumb down the core range and sell off single barrels like this and, unfortunately, older casks that would have top-dressed age statements to produce a quality product. We've entered the era where 12 or 15 year old whisky is just that. The peasants can buy the overpriced core stuff and rich will blow their money on exclusive single barrels. They can just flog this stuff as a one off to countless retailers who can pass it on as an 'Exclusive'. This is a 10 year old whisky at the end of the day, aged in a who knows what barrel in terms of quality and priced too high. "Strudel" FFS.
totally agree. top-dressed age statements - this was a new statement for me. We've entered the era where 12 or 15 year old whisky is just that. - but isn't that the standard in scotch??
@@WhiskyJason1 "Top Dressed" - I picked that up from our Kiwi brothers at The Single Malt Review which has been a top channel for years. Tim has an uncanny knack of sniffing out older whisky in an age statement. Until the Whisky Boom really kicked off top dressing with older stock was how it was done. Ralfy has discussed it as well. Now the boom is on people will pay for stuff regardless of the quality. Look at Brown-Forman, Beam-Suntory and all the others that have been taken over. Price goes up and quality goes down. It's why I drone on about it because the more the community buys this overpriced stuff, with virtually no criticism, the more they can push the boundaries until decent whisky will be the exclusive privilege of the very wealthy. Let's go back six years and you would have been thought an idiot for considering paying £100 for a 12 year old whisky and a madman, with no knowledge of whisky, for paying £80 for a 3 year old whisky. Okay, it's the market but old geezers like me and you should push back against the relentless attempt of the industry to rip us off. Ralfy is a boss for his stand against NAS and, now, overpriced mediocrity. Top marks for you, as well, for calling a spade a spade.
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Thanks again Jason. You help me to made better single malt choices.
gteat!!
Both of these were finished with the sole purpose of covering up sub par initial maturations. They just reinforce my decision to stay with core range expressions.
As long as it doesn't overpower the whisky, I prefer Oloroso for the deeper fruit notes.
most German prefer PX - interesting
Wow!! No wonder a big box liquor store by me discounted these by 38%. It is selling for $74 USD now’s It is an 11 year old bottled in 2022 that was also matured in a PX puncheon. They finally gave up on them.
Brown-Forman has a slight problem
Px all the way. Nice review
Thanks!
I love a good Islay PX cask, very rare to find one though.
I hope you found another bottle soon
For how much I love the Glendronach 18, I would still prefer a good, sweet almost sticky PX. Even though I love port the best among the category of fortified wines (and good port finished whiskeys are so yummy)
I also love a great port
For a sherry I much prefer Oloroso over PX, but like you I also really like Palo Cortado and Moscatel.
For a whisky I generally prefer Oloroso over PX influence.
Alas, I have no (known) experience with Montilla, but at least with sherries labeled Jerez D.O. the PX doesn't have the depth of flavour of the better Olorosos incl. the magic of rancio. PX sherries--not all, but some--can be just ungodly sweet and syrupy and so nigh-on undrinkable.
I still like PX finishes :-)
Sounds like Rachel is hurting her reputation with these two. Thanks for sharing!
What reputation? The Beam/Suntory era was absolute garbage. Bowmore went down the toilet and their reputation is rock bottom. As soon as I heard what happened with the Glendronach/Benriach takeover I thought the writing was on the wall.
maybe it is not her fault - but rather Brown-Forman
@@WhiskyJason1 Agreed and I think that was the case at Beam/Suntory but she's involved in the process at the end of the day.
@@WhiskyJason1 Yes I totally agree now that I thought about it. She doesn't have full control to buy or do the best techniques and barrels as they control the $$$. I'm hearing some fear the quality of Glendronach now will go downhill as the owners seeking more profits!
Sherry information - Nearly all the Pedro Ximenez grapes and wine comes from outside the 'Sherry Triangle' area in Cadiz and is actually from Montilla in the Cordoba region where they make all their fino, amontillado, oloroso and px with the Pedro Ximenez grape. They aren't allowed to use the word sherry even though it is. The wines from Montilla, including Pedro Ximenez are not fortified and reach the alcohol level naturally which is a cause of much local pride. Pedro Ximenez is a completely different wine to Oloroso and the use of the word sherry is misleading. It's like beer and cider.
My feeling with what is going on with Glendronach and Benriach is that casks such as these were aged in the Billy Walker period to be blended into the core expressions. They now have the opportunity to dumb down the core range and sell off single barrels like this and, unfortunately, older casks that would have top-dressed age statements to produce a quality product. We've entered the era where 12 or 15 year old whisky is just that. The peasants can buy the overpriced core stuff and rich will blow their money on exclusive single barrels. They can just flog this stuff as a one off to countless retailers who can pass it on as an 'Exclusive'. This is a 10 year old whisky at the end of the day, aged in a who knows what barrel in terms of quality and priced too high. "Strudel" FFS.
totally agree.
top-dressed age statements - this was a new statement for me.
We've entered the era where 12 or 15 year old whisky is just that. - but isn't that the standard in scotch??
@@WhiskyJason1 "Top Dressed" - I picked that up from our Kiwi brothers at The Single Malt Review which has been a top channel for years. Tim has an uncanny knack of sniffing out older whisky in an age statement. Until the Whisky Boom really kicked off top dressing with older stock was how it was done. Ralfy has discussed it as well.
Now the boom is on people will pay for stuff regardless of the quality. Look at Brown-Forman, Beam-Suntory and all the others that have been taken over. Price goes up and quality goes down. It's why I drone on about it because the more the community buys this overpriced stuff, with virtually no criticism, the more they can push the boundaries until decent whisky will be the exclusive privilege of the very wealthy. Let's go back six years and you would have been thought an idiot for considering paying £100 for a 12 year old whisky and a madman, with no knowledge of whisky, for paying £80 for a 3 year old whisky. Okay, it's the market but old geezers like me and you should push back against the relentless attempt of the industry to rip us off. Ralfy is a boss for his stand against NAS and, now, overpriced mediocrity. Top marks for you, as well, for calling a spade a spade.