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My Subaru CVT is fixed! Update!
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Never ask a person at a dealership a question. They don't know anything and blatantly lie to you.
I just tell them what to replace. lol.
These days that's every and any brand of motorcar. I don't think the sales people intentionally lie, they are just not told anything these days. I believe their up line has told them the customer has to do their own research on the vehicle, stupid mind set in my eyes!
New video coming soon- " I sold my Subaru!"
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Me too. Smart thing to do
Sounds like I was pretty fortunate on my 2012 Outback. CVT lasted 160,000 miles. The fluid was changed every 30,000 miles. And I wasn’t “ babying” the car. When it gave out I found another used CVT with 42,000 miles on it and had it installed by my mechanic. $3,300 including installation. We will see how long she goes...
SO by doing everything right it still failed? Drive boxes should be the last thing to fail on any car.
Without sounding like I'm bashing these cars. With the almost guaranteed transmission failure on any cvt with anything but the most carefully commuting duties, it boggles my mind why people still buy these with the intent on driving them hard.
Robert McAleer
Personally if I plan on using a vehicle for even light off road use I prefer a manual transmission.
I love subaru but even i have to agree.subaru made these and expect you to baby them.these certainly do not belong on turbo engines
Neville Loubser
They only expected flannel wearing lesbians from New England to drive them I guess
Well I my 2015 Forester hasnt given me any problems so far. I changed the CVT fluid at 100k miles and I am planing on changing it at 135k again.
I offroad my Subie every weekend.
Backing out the driveway will cause too much stress on the CVT.
Former Dealer mechanic here, not Subaru. Most all the newer vehicles now a days say just to “check” a lot of things, including the transmission fluid. If you go back just a few years or ask most any dealer mechanic they will tell you they recommend changing most major fluid like the transmission, transfer case/ptu, coolant, power steering fluid every 30,000 miles. The manufacturers no longer recommend it, because all those things will make it without any fluid changes past the warranty mileage. Then after that they don’t care what happens. If it break down your more likely to buy another new vehicle and that’s what they want. If you plan on keeping any vehicle past the warranty mileage then you should go by the sever maintenance schedule and do all your major fluids every 30k miles, or in some cases more often if there’s known issues you want to avoid. Like CVT failures.
jklpino Good info!
jklpino that’s why you don’t keep a Subaru for long after the warranty is gone. They have major failures engines and transmission. Toyota are extremely reliable however.
Rad Sr Subaru had to change my cvt lineartrnic twice as well as the engine for oil consumption. Man read and do your research Subaru’s are unreliable they have major flaws like engine oil consumption, head gaskets blowing as well as their automatic transmission are piece of shit and cost up to 6-7k to be replaced. My Toyota 300k mileage only brakes and oil change I did. My Subaru have lots of check engine problems, electrical problem and only 35k on it.
Subaru’s criteria for severe driving conditions is really vague. Basically if you live in Minnesota, you meet all the severe driving conditions.
Agreed with you jklpino.
One more thing is why would car manufacturer/dealership/mechanic shop recommend frequent fluid change looking at both the time and mileage? If your stuff breaks after warranty, great. Like jklpino said u end up getting another car. Or u bite the bullet and patch it up and sell it or fix it, not knowing why the original component failed.
In this case no matter you pickup a new car from this brand again or going for another brand. YOU, helped the dealership on taking one of their dead stock.
A very normal automatic tranmission for japanese import brands cost 3000-4000cad plus taxes here and Canada, while a CVT unit cost 5000cad plus taxes just on parts, not including any fluid or labor on replacement. It used to cost around $239.99+tax for a 10Litre automatic transmission fluid flush on a 2004-2008 mazda3 at a dealership I worked at, using Mazda OEM "M5 yellow label" fluid. And that's recommended to be done every 2yrs or 48,000km.
Now most people keep their car for let's say, 15yrs from brand new. 3000cad / 239.99cad per fluid change, that means u can do 12.5 times of flush in that 15years.
And don't forget, that 3000cad isn't including labor on replacing your failed transmission YET.
My old 2000 Honda Civic SiR that my friend owns now is running strong at 345,000km now. Still that original motor that I used to go lapping days and autocross with (yeah red line shift). Well it does burn oil but very minimal. Valve cover has very very minimal sludge when he went get his timing belt, water pump, cam seals etc replaced at 300,000km.
Why? I believe 4000km oil change interval helped **flame suit on**. LOL! Motor is still running tho. Can't complain.
What is more expensive? Oil? Or transmission/differential/engine? U decide.
Ive looked into these cvts a little bit. Just my own research and to me it seems the cvt transmission can be reliable. And most issues occur due to software issues, rather than assembly issues
@Lunas Ra i have a 2017 touring. Its covered 100k under subarus extended warranty.
The biggest thing you can do to extend the life of a CVT is not to put it in gear until RPM goes under 1000 under any possible circumstance. Warm base idle preferably. If you have a Subaru CVT and are in a hurry and need to drive away fast. Start it in neutral (ignition on, engine off, foot on brake, shift into neutral. Make sure the parking brake is set). Wait 20 seconds. Then swiftly put it in park. It should idle down to warm base idle even if the cold light is still on. Then put it in gear. Most drivers of automatics put their cars in gear paying no attention to engine RPM. This is a fatal mistake with most CVT's
@Dori Tos You did the right thing and RAN!
Cool. You are honest. I own a Jeep Compass. CVT. I don't trail with it. But I have been in deep snow, mud, and some off road.
For what it was built to be...it's awesome. When the need to "rock-crawl" comes up, I'll get a Rubicon. 'Till then, thumbs up on CVT.
Cheers and happy trails.
sarge27271 Thanks and thanks for watching!
You are correct. The subaru dealership does not work on the transmissions directly. They just order a replacement, and send the defective one out. They do fill with fluid and the like, but not actual teardown. Because of this, they do not actually every find out what is wrong as they can't see what happened, or what broke most of the time. There is no major changes outside of software changes to the computer. Functionally, there is no revision yet. There are only two versions of the CVT. TR580 and TR690. The TR690 seems to be used on more Torque related applications, like those with the 3.6 liter or a turbo. Like the WRX, Forester with a Turbo, Legacy/outback with a 3.6 boxer 6. Hope this helps.
Anytime a change of the geometry is made to a vehicle such as lifting, all mechanical components have be compensated. The CVT will fail if those geometries are not in balance. Most people just lift the vehicles and compensate the angles of the rest of the vehicle.
Just like I was hoping to find some smart wisdom comments in his vid where it went out. YOU CANNOT ABUSE/MODIFY THESE VEHICLES! They’re not made like that! Take care of a Subaru/Honda/Toyota CVT and it will OUTLAST MANY of the mediocre brands regular autos… ford chevy CDJR etc! It’s the Nissan/Hyundai cvts that are JUNK!
I am a retired dealer rep who has purchased hundreds of Subaru vehicles over the years. I don't own one. They are a marginal vehicle that I have dealt with since the 1970s. Do not buy anything with a CVT if you want a clue as to their lack of durability you will notice that not one manufacturer of pickup trucks uses a CVT because they cannot survive hauling any kind of weight or towing. I own a 2013 Toyota Highlander AWD and a 2014 Nissan Frontier 4WD with no issues. Any of us who have experience with offload UTVs such as Polaris RZR or Can Am already is familiar with how much trouble CVTs can be when they are stressed.
Too much conflicting information. I just read that in both Japan and Canada, Subaru recommends CVT fluid changes every 30k miles, while Subaru of America insists it is "lifetime" fluid (or changes at 100k miles), unless the car is used for "severe duty," in which case, I can picture an independent dealer likely refusing to honor the warranty for *that* reason. This transmission, chosen only for increased fuel economy and lower production costs for Subaru, seems like too great a potential liability for me to invest in.
Dude, please keep it for a few thousand miles and keep us posted.
would love to know, i have a 2015 legacy, just rolled over 150k this week, only had to replace one wheel bearing so far
This is an old video, but fear of a CVT is why I bought a V6 Mitsubishi Outlander with a proper 6-speed automatic transmission and S-AWC. Tried and true technology, no horror stories.
A CVT and Boxer Engine! You have better odds in Las Vegas of not going broke.
1000 miles on my new Subie and no problems. Does shift a bit hard when on a incline going from park to drive in automatic.
Put in N, E-Brake & then P. Problem solved.
@Jake A... great post. What most people don’t realize is pretty much everyone should go by the sever duty maintenance schedule. Unless your purely a highway commuter. And if you look at how much more they’re recommending. Then look at how you do the maintenance on the car, and you can start to see that it’s not entirely the fault of the vehicle in some instances for some issues. All manufacturers, including Subaru, know and understand what kind of maintenance you “should do” and what you “could do” to get you out of warranty before you have problems. So for every make and model just to be extra good, just go by the sever maintenance schedule. I’ve done that with my vehicle I’ve owned since new and now at 60k miles, and I haven’t had a single problem so far.
Got a brand new 2019 Crosstrek with the same pause between reverse to drive. My mom bought a 2019 a week after me and she experiences the same issue. Seems to be the way it comes, albeit a bit strange if I’m honest. It has other weird characteristics but I’m gonna live with it and see how it lasts
From what I've heard the pause is definitely better in those newer models, with the early CVT models like I have it can be 3+ seconds.
It’s better for sure but definitely still there especially on hills the car will roll back a little before grabbing the gear and continuing straight I have a 2018 forester xt
Yo thank you for posting up your experience! We have a 2015fxt and our transmission just failed at about 75K miles. Everything fully covered with warranty. Imma plan to do some transmission cooler upgrades and monitoring transmission temps via an android headunit with the obd reader app. Planning to do this soon! Wish you the best with your build and im hoping I can keep mine!
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It seems from the previous video the Forester was driven too fast under x mode conditions; however, the video does not show the speed. The 2015 was not designed for BAJA style off roading. Considering it was previously owned, lifted, and pushed under a heavy load, it was the defining line.
I wouldn't consider the car in Question doing anything outside of what the car is advertised. Clearly these CVT's are the weak link.
Now it's time to get rid of it. CVT transmissions are garbage
All cars are garbage now anyways. Might as well just drive something you like.
Subaru blew it with the complicated CVT garbage.Stay 6 speed.
@@moultonditcher6187 #mazda #skyactivdrive for the win haha
@@moultonditcher6187 I was NOT happy when they dropped the 6-speed manual for the 5th gen. Foresters. I have a 2015 with 6M. I'm not confident that the CVT will make it to 230K miles like my first transmission. My next vehicle may likely be Toyota/Lexus. If I can't have a manual, I might was well get something where the automatic trans or CVT will last.
Thanks for the update! Thanks for sharing my photo in the snow from Subaru, too at 08:03 😍
Shayne Strigle Nice!! And sick car!!
HighjakSecondary thanks man! If you’re on Instagram @strigles_outback
I just changed trans fluid on my 13 outback 2.5i with almost 60k milage. The car was never been on hard terrace. Never tow. Just use for commute. But CVT fluid looks pretty bad. So change your CVT fluid people. I will change it again on 100k.
If you plan to keep it you should swith cvt fluid to amsoil. Huge difference
False.
Do not use ANYTHING other than the OEM fluid. If you do this within the warranty period, Subaru can and will void your warranty if it fails.
I bet you're an Amsoil rep....
I'm speculating they made small changes inside the transmission that help the cvt last longer. I'm in the tractor service industry and we see this a lot not a major change if they see something fail more often but just small changes to help.
That music!! Legendary!
My 2015 XT is just about to hit 100k. They have already had to fix a leak in the transmission and my catalytic converter also went out. My friend has the same car and theirs went out at 60k. I am beyond nervous driving this car past 100k miles.
Your on the downward slide of the countdown. If you can off load it!
Copy Pasted from your Subaru owners Manual:
#1 under severe driving replace oil and filter every 3,000 miles or 3 months whichever comes first
#2 under extremely cold or hot weather replace the filter more often
#3 under severe driving replace every 15,000 miles or 15 months whichever comes first
(Differential fluid. Front and rear gear oil)
#4 under severe driving replace the CVT oil should be replaced under severe driving at 24,855 miles
Severe driving is -
> Repeated short trips, stop-and-go, extensive idling (basically any urban driving)
> Rough, muddy, dusty, wet, humid, cold, mountainous, salty conditions (basically any coast, country, or winter driving)
> Frequently towing a trailer.
> RacingSevere driving is
Thank you that Really really helped out am a new Subura owner.
@@subninja8069 read the manual. it could save you a lot of worry. they even have a nice maintenance interval chart in one of the booklets.
I had a 2013 altima with a cvt that died at 36000. I will never get a car with a cvt again!
I have the 2018 XV or Crosstrek and had no problems with the transmission. I did have a problem with the suspension which was fixed but that’s another story.
I wish they weren't phasing out the manual transmission in the foresters and outbacks. I have an '06 Forester in manual with 215K mi and every time I think of upgrading, I'm afraid to let her go. It's like a perfect pair of jeans, but at this mileage I know one day it's gonna blow a crotch seam out. If the future of the company is limiting your customer to a transmission that isn't built to the quality they are known for, might be time I switch too.
the CVT in my 2016 crosstrek is the best automatic I've ever driven, and most of my cars over the years have been sticks. don't listen to all the internet bullshit
I have a 2018 manual forester. Probably could still find one new. 2018 is the last year for manual foresters
No listen to the internet "bs". These newer cars are extremely complicated and over reliant on wanna be fancy tech. They have so many points of failure. The horror stories I've read and heard from reputable sources are crazy. Subie pulled the ol cooperate switcheroo, got people hooked on some kind of quality products then cut corners in the name of profits galore. Cars are spontaneously combusting!!
yeah when I was a kid we didn't believe in power windows or power steering. there has always been plenty of BS even before the internet LMAO!
Lance, I've been enjoying following your mods on the Forester and seriously thinking about doing something very similar. I've been looking at AWD vehicles because my needs have changed, haven't had a Subaru for a long time (my last one had 5-spd and low range, used it for camping/fishing trips high in the Sierra Nevada on dirt roads and some jeep trails; sold it at 200K to a neighbor who kept bugging me to sell it to him). Interesting statistical data on a wide variety of cars over the last 10 years in Consumer Reports annual auto issue, based on hundreds of thousands of owner surveys. On the worst used cars list the only Subarus are Impreza and Legacy '09 and WRX '15-'16. On the best used cars list all Subie models are represented with some exceptions such as Outback highly recommended except '13 and '15. Crosstreks are recommended '15-'18 and Foresters '16-'18. The Ascent is featured on the cover to highlight Subaru's steady climb through CR's manufacturer ratings to the No. 1 spot this year. Quoting: "Subaru's strong predicted reliability and owner satisfaction marks drove it to the head of the pack. The brand's lone blemish is the much-below-average predicted reliability of the sporty WRX sedan." Hope this helps balance some of the echo-chamber effect of enthusiast sites, where the strongest opinions seem to be based on n=1, or 2, or 3 maybe vs. CR's n=470,000.
Dude… dude dude this video helped. Thanks!
I'm the owner of omgfoz and I am having intermittent problems with my CVT at 78k. I've been having problems since I bought the car used with about 58k before it was modded. Fluid was replaced at 60k and made no difference. Unfortunately the dealer hasn't been able to duplicate the symptoms at two separate visits.. I'm planning on bring it in again in the coming month or two and trying to go for a test drive with the tech. Hopefully I can get a new transmission because I love my car otherwise!
Rob Glick That’s so funny, you’re the second person of the random off-road Subie posts I pulled from SOA’s Instagram to see this vid and comment. Also, it’s ironic that you too are having issues. Hope you get everything handled!
Going with oversized wheels could cause more wear on the CVT. And if you Stress the CVT alot you should consider replacing the OEM Transmission oil cooler.
And it would be handy to know if you run the TR580 or TR690 CVT
CVT's are the flower child of drive lines. They should be built TUFF! Not these flower chain run over a little rock and they snap drive lines. The drive is the backbone of any car! It should handle the load!
What this all oils down to is that Subaru is now selling a 100k mile car. Having to pay for a replacement CVT would be more than the vehicle (repaired) would be worth.
Many many many has over 200,000 on stock transmissions
Hes selling it for sure. Dealer should buy it back for good deal to be fair. Hard to do it anywhere else now given early transmission issues. No smart cx would buy it. I have a Honda CVT but for a smaller car, CVTs don't work that hard especially on highway so they last a long time. Friend had a 14 civic with 200k km. Just have to change CVT fluid every 25k km to ensure health of it.
I just got my brand new 2021cvt transmission changed , free of charge by the dealership, on my WRX 2015 , at 44000 miles !!!!
Glad to hear Subaru took care of you and took care of it under warranty. From the video you were showing in your previous video regarding the failure that's nothing driving wise that would really concern me as to being the cause of the transmission failing...CVT's in general seem pretty weak in terms of their build quality and longevity even compared to a regular automatic transmission.
Honestly the CVT is like the high pressure fuel pump on my 335i. Its not a question of if it will fail, its just a question of when. On pump number 3 now
I love Subaru, but would not buy any CTV type vehicle.
Manual for me! Forever!
Hi liked the information, I have a 11 outback 108000 miles, I worry about the cvt all the time read some complaints online, but really think about how many of these are out there, so far no problems with mine knock on wood, mine don't seem to have the delay when shifting not anything abnormal to me ,so good luck with your new cvt
W.Glenn ROBBINS Great point, there are a lot of Subaru’s with CVT out there. Makes me feel better, I just bought a 2015 2.5 premium with 74k miles today, lol.
the wetclutches in the cvt and in many other aut transmissions is meant to wear out, change oil often
and dont overload/stress the clutches,
No hill starts? Don't get bogged? Don't drive in snow? Don't tow? Weak transmission by the sounds of it!
The CVT is fundamentally different from an AT. The CVT fluid needs to be changed. At $14 per quart times 9 quarts, it is not a cheap fluid replacement, but when the unit starts to show operational issues, fluid replacement is the easy fix. Our 2012 Impreza required it @120k miles. Not a major issue but the symptoms are scary as the unit failed to shift properly.
Change the CVT filter and replace the lost fluid with new Subaru fluid every 20k-30-k miles ... fluid and filter is always cheaper then replacing the transmission! You can’t really over maintain it. I would not recommend “flushing” a CVT either... there very sensitive transmissions 👎
Any reputable shop should refuse to do a flush on a CVT. and tbh they should refuse doing one at all on anything over 150k miles
I can tell that you have never changed a Subaru Cvt filter
Why would you bath sensitive electrical components in oil! Something that should be kept apart in its own sealed chamber.
The only thing I'm sure now is to never buy a car with automatic transmission.. I had a Volkswagen with DSG and after I bought it I found a lot of people complaining about the DSG broke and it's very expensive to replace. I sell it after 4 year without any problem, but it was difficult to sell it because of the DSG fails, so I lost a lot of money selling it with a low price. Now I have a mazda cx5 with automatic transmission, so far no problems but I think it's very slow and I don't know if it fails in the future. The other alternative was subaru but I've read a lot of bad comments about the cvt transmission (slow, it fails, not fixable) as your experience in this video.. I can drive with a manual transmission, the problem is here in my country only the entry level cars have manual transmissions, the GT or full equipment are all automatic, so I'm screw.
I was actually playing on test driving and, maybe, purchasing a new Outback, Onyx edition, but after reading these posts and seeing these videos on their CVT tranny I think I’ll wait it out for a while. Too many potential problems and I don’t want to be tied to my dealer for a minor maintenance item like changing the tranny fluid. Maybe it’s just a scheme to get more customers into the dealer? Just askin...
Change the fluid yourself and you will survive.
run dont walk away
@@moonsapling and the filter! Oh wait! yeah the filter is going to be another chapter of pain and suffering
I had an Audi A4 CVT. What a disaster transmission. 5 seconds or more to move off..... Big wait between gear changes. Dealer not interested in sorting it out. It was a brand new car.
Never ever again. Think Subaru are interesting cars but anything with CVT will be off my list....
I will never buy a car with CVT again. Mine went out at 50k, under warranty. Now it's dead again at 92k. Never ever again..
the CVT is the Transmission and you are right never buy a car with a CVT. Subaru's are great if you can drive a stick and you can just learn
That warranty isn't worth the paper its written on. From what your saying there is no improvement in the transmission, it will fail again by the sounds of it. Our Subaru XV did the same thing shifting from reverse to drive, That right there is a design flaw. We got rid of the Subaru because of that dangerous engineered problem with CVT's. We didn't fancy being stuck out there in traffic waiting for the 3 second delay in no mans land to count down before drive was engaged.
As a subaru tech. I would of done a cvt relearn to help shifting speed
I have a 2016 Forester with a CVT. The only problem I have with the CVT is the 2 second delay when you shift to or from reverse. This is a major issue if you are trying to rock the vehicle when you get stuck in snow. When I took the vehicle to the dealer to fix this problem the tech said that is normal and there is nothing they can do. He never talked about a "CVT relearn". Will the "CVT relearn" make the CVT act like a normal automatic transmission when shifting to and from reverse?
@@retirednobaddays456 it should shorten shift time between "gears" and time it takes between drive and reverse
My CVT just blew up. 130,000 km. Supposed to be warranties to 160,000km but the dealer wrote it off and tried to force me to buy a new car with 14,000$ still remaining on my Forester. Don’t trust Subaru of Canada and Subaru of Brampton part of the Performance Auto Group.
My 2014 XV CrossTrek has the CVT and it makes me nervous. I kind of wish I had got the standard transmission. I have no mods but 96,000 miles on it. Never tower and I'm pretty kind to it but I do love on a snowy area. Crossing my CrossTrek fingers...
change the CVT fuild every 60k or sooner like they use to recommend. no fluid is lifetime unless you drive it into the ground. 96k, I bet your fluid is black as sin and smells like death. mine did.
You serviced the CVT?
@Not Dave valve body went out in mine. I traded it in for a 2018 Forrester with the 6 speed manual.
This is a 2015 correct? Has Subaru made any updates or improvements to the CVT in following years? I seem to keep finding references to the 2010-2015 CVT years and issues as though there was a change between 2015 and later versions?
Also wondering if that's the cause for confusion between the Subaru techs on whether or not you got an upgraded CVT. If newer CVTs are improved, does that necessarily mean your 2015 got a newer version or just a new original 2015 version?
My Crosstrek started jerking really bad around 70k miles. I took it to the dealer and they are replacing it with a new transmission. How's yours doing? I get mine back in a few days.
What comes out goes right back in
All factory warranties begin on the in-service date and NOT the manufacturing date. The warranty on your new car begins on the date of purchase versus months before when the vehicle was built. If you want to know the full-service date of any vehicle, call the manufacturer 800 customer service number and give them the VIN. You do not need to own the vehicle, so you can verify warranties of used cars without speaking to a used car salesman. This is how used car dealers verify the warranty of cars rolling through wholesale auctions. Especially useful when a rental company dumps hundreds of the same model car with different miles on each one.
You know what the warranty of a Toyota is? Who cares, they run forever.
your Subaru is not Fixed, it's patched until this CVT goes out.
totally agree. he needs to get a real 4x4 for this kind of driving. cvt will NOT hold up to this.
Thanks for the update on your Forester CVT replacement. I'm a native Hawkeye and 2016 Outback 2.5I Limited owner - - have really enjoyed your journey with the mods for the Forester. Like you, I have the same goofy symptom of 3 FULL seconds between Park and Drive/Reverse ever since mile 1 with the Outback CVT ('can we just go now, please?'). And like you, the CVT has accelerated my move to a more capable off-road machine where we can tow our new teardrop trailer without fear of the CVT falling out on the pavement. Fond farewell to the Outback and really looking forward to adventures with the 4Runner :-) :-)
The dealer keeps telling me that if one tire has a little more wear than the rest it could break the engineer and transmission. I’ve been thinking of lifting my crosstrek and of course putting on bigger tires. Will this void all of the warranty?
If the car isn't kept within the specs from shop floor any warranty will be questioned! If your willing to pay for replacement of transmission if it goes belly up go for it! If you can break the transmission from just tyre wear OMG! what a piece of junk!
Wondering if you run a cvt cooler now, or already ran one when your transmission blew up?
Subaru says a lot of things that are blatant lies like "quality that lasts" and "updated boxer engine"...the cvt wears out by design . it will let you down again
And having non-certified techs sign off on their cars. Company is full of lies.
My used 2003 Subaru Outback has nearly 206,000 miles and averages 30 MPG! That's amazing. My 2001 got to 233k when a rod knock killed the engine, but it had been knocking for 40,000 miles. My 2001 was abused by the previous owners. My 2003 is a filthy family wagon with a bone-dry engine, and my first two years of ownership have been trouble free. My 2001 was always having very common problems.
@@mostlyendsmy 2002 ate head gaskets and blew out radiators and cracked cyl heads -all before warranty was out. huge pos engine . traded it for a 2004 highlander-still driving it at 230k. no issues
hopefully you get a good warranty on that because it will go out again in 70k or less miles
Here is the solution for a bad CVT: 6 speed manual.
so you bought it used and the warranty was still good for the transmission? I thought some companies don't
Does the forester, outback, and legacy share the same engine with different transmissions I am talking about the 5th gen models?
You have to check your manual. It does tell owners when to change the cvt fluid in . With that said,the Dealers are the issue because They are telling owners is life time, so what the hell that means. My Legacy Limited 2.5 has forty nine K miles and if I get issue with my cvt I won't buy another Subaru period.
Change your CVT fluid so you dont change your transmission!
People don't change their CVT fluid because Subaru claims that the fluod is a lifetime one and that a fluid change would make the warranty go void.
@@jannieschluter9670 The CVT will last the life of the transmission fluid not the other away around.
@@jannieschluter9670 if you listen carefully what they said, youd understand.
Let me explain. They said that if the CVT was driven in perfect conditions the fluid wont need to be changed. But real world conditions are not perfect. And so they said if the car is driven in cold hot wet or snowy conditions off the road or in heavy traffic etc. the fluid will need to be at least checked every 30k and changed if needed.
I have 147k miles on my 2015 Forester and I change my fluid every 40k miles. No problems so far.
to be fair, this subie looks like it has a harder life than most of the shopping carts i see from day to day
The life of this Subaru was very tame. I never did a single off-road trip with this thing after seeing how poorly it performed just around the farm. Other harder-use Subarus with bigger lifts and more upgrades are shown in this video. I drove it for a few years and traded up to a Tacoma.
I still don't understand why you did this to a Forester.
4eat fo life.
What is your rotation pattern with your full size spare?
Never get Subaru!! The CVT on my Legacy died too.
What model?
@@nevilleloubser5857 2016
You going to keep beating the crap out of it this time? Or are you going to start taking care of it and use it like it was intended?
I'm going to continue to drive it as intended and no worse than Subaru advertises it to be driven, as mentioned in the video you're commenting on. Did you watch it? Follow the channel... you probably won't like what you see. Bring your diapers, Todd.
Interesting, I got a new 2017 Forester 2.5i S, and the CVT is from the beginning how you describe it. From reverse into D it takes a couple of seconds until the car is ready to go.
That's so ridiculous. I had one vehicle ever do that and it was an original sunbird with crazy miles that was like 300 bucks
I've had Subarus since 2007 Impreza with the 4EAT. I think they just program their Automatics that way as it did it too.
That is crazy dangerous! It should be instant! Oh look a truck bearing down on me and this bloody CVT wont engage DRIVE! No thanks.
What bulbs are you using in your high beam/drl slot? Looks almost like an amber and looks good
Factory.
CVT's are extremely hit and miss even in the same family. My shop as seen quite a few Subaru's and Nissan's with CVT failures with low miles. Nissan and Subaru seem to be the worst though I'm assuming GM and Chrysler are probably just as bad since Nissan supplies their CVT's as well. Do NOT believe what Subaru says about CVT maintenance, many of us in the mechanic business already knew first hand that CVT's being "nearly maintenance free" was bullshit. BMW tried to do the same thing before with their traditional autos and ended up with a lot of blown transmissions with their "BMW Lifetime Transmission Fluid", Mercedes did the same thing as well as Toyota at one point. All this means is that it's good for the life of the manufacturer warranty in the fine print if you drive it like a granny.
You should service a CVT every 20-30K depending on how hard you drive it and invest in a decent remote cooler with electric thermostat as CVT's get HOT and heat destroys them a lot faster. Most of the guys running the overland setups on their Crosstreks, Foresters and Outbacks are running remote coolers and they know that running bigger tires risks more damage over time to the CVT but again, timely service and a remote cooler can majorly help prevent failure. Also, it's not just the early models of the CVT's, we've seen reports of even 2019 models having CVT issues across all models, Ascent, Forester, Outback, etc. on Identifix and some of our other shop software. Almost every single transmission code thrown for CVT's ends up in a tranny replacement according to Identifix.
At the end of the day though, CVT's are junk and it's just a fact, a lot of manufacturers are now stepping away from them in favor of 8+ speed traditional auto transmissions. CVT's are designed for economy cruising on flat highways in lightweight cars and Subaru should never have stepped back into them.
Untrue propaganda most CVT are just fine in Subaru’s! But the few that fail travels like wildfire with the propaganda myth BS , It’s all documented by Subaru, how do you explain the incredible resell value and also one of the best selling new cars and if they were so bad that would not be the case ?
Subaru they replaced my CVT transmission last year this time after replaced I got worse gas mileage on my Subaru Forester XT after that I complained the gas mileage they reset CVT transmission even getting worse .
yusuf kilic I had the exact same problem on my 2014 forester XT (with an AEM intake) back in 2018 October the CVT trans randomly gave up on me and every single maintenance light came on car couldn’t properly get into “manual mode”gear. Had it replace through warranty (about $10k CAD) and since then I had horrible mileage and just this morning I had the same problem but was able to shut the car off and everything seemed back to “normal” but I’m stuck with check engine,hill assist light, traction & stability control off and it’s stuck in sport mode. Pretty much I’m sure the replacement is going out well and it’s a lemon :(
@@briandominguez760 when I take to my car dealer for repair always they broke something now my engine light come out and says emissions system problem, Subaru good car but they have to stop using cvt transmission,I went Toyota dealer they stop using CVT they use 8speed automatic transmission because Toyota Canada best selling car if they continue to using cvt they know they are not gonna sell they are car I hope Subaru does samethink
yusuf kilic I have the exact same lights on for my forester and the S mode keeps blinking I called Subaru and they said it might be a ECU problem....
@@briandominguez760 I am at the dealership now I hope they gonna solve the problem
yusuf kilic good luck on that and hopefully it’s not a expensive trip for you
Hi, just curious how those BFG KO2s perform on snow and ice. I am on the fence deciding to get dedicated winter tires (Blizzaks) or the BFG KO2s. I live in Alberta, Canada and winter here get bad. Thank you
They did pretty darn good. They are 3PMSF rated tires so that helps a bit or at least gives you some idea of their rated performance, but they are not a full dedicated snow tire and don't perform as well as one... during daily driving conditions anyway. I'd say they do as good or better than a snow tire in deep snow and offroad, but a dedicated set of snow tires performs a bit better in all other conditions. Hard pack, ice, tarmac, slush, etc. The KO2s best year was year one and they kind of seemed to harden up a bit and not do quite as well in the years after that. Great tire if you need an AT that can handle snow or want to run one set year round, but if you are able and willing to swap sets from summer to winter Blizzaks or the General Altimax Artics will do better in nearly all daily driving conditions.
@@HighjakSecondary Thank you
Dang I see and read all of this negativity re Subaru products. Just purchased a new Forrester Limited. Starting to have regrets. Lp
Is that rear tire mount aftermarket?
How long to replace a CVT ( in general)
Buy a sander to fix your problem
Ugh, I own a 2016 Forester CVT. I really don’t like the feeling of the unreliability of the CVT. My old Forester (2009 Forester XT) used the 4EAT, and it seemed more solid than the CVT.
"seemed more solid" what does that mean?
I think it depends on the manufacturer. My Mitsubishi Outlander Sport CVT SUCKED!! Hated it. Got rid of it after 3 years. My moms 2016 Honda CRV CVT tranny seems nice
@@scottz5057
>Honda
>CVT
big oof. Honda, Nissan, etc CVTs use rubber like belts and are known for their issues(usually breaking). look into it, and have her do regular maintenance like fluid changes regardless of what the dealers say. they want your money, even if you can't afford it. it'll be a lot cheaper to get a regular fluid change than the thousands for a new CVT or repairs.
Don’t believe all the propaganda Subaru CVT are basically as reliable as any other transmission ! Subaru has been using and tweaking these transmissions for over a decade, I think they know more than the BS artist
This forester,is it the XT?
I checked with( Level10 Transmission's) N J, ph# 973-827- 1000 There cvt transmission is Cheeper & can handle 500hp to the wheels, and it's cheeper than the cvt from Subaru factory. my 2016 forrester xt is tuned to 265hp & 328 tourqe to wheels...
I was going to buy a Forrestor Sport this week but after hearing about the CVT I am a little worried about the longevity of it. Should I get a Tiguan instead? Please help because I need to decide soon.....
get a different car
Till the next time
Subaru needs to move to a dual clutch.
Tidwell Dual clutches are worse than CVT. See how the VW DCTs and Ford Powershit perform. Right now only Toyota makes relatively reliable CVTs. Even Toyota had a recall on CVTs in 2019 Corolla. Subaru should talk to Toyota and ask Toyota to take a bigger stake of the company. Then Subaru should start using Aisin 8AT transmissions. Right now that 8AT still has issues in Toyota Camry. I don’t doubt future Aisin 8ATs would be reliable given Toyota/Aisin quality.
Luke iPanda Porsche and VW DSG transmissions are the best “automatic” transmissions out right now.
Ian Russo I need to retract the statement in previous comment that Toyota makes the only reliable CVT. VW is really famous for junk quality, not just in various kinds of transmissions. VW products are the true love of mechanics. German economy will suffer badly for their poor quality.
Luke iPanda I have a Toyota Highlander hybrid with 200,000 miles on the original CVT transmission. So yes you are right Toyota’s are reliable but the BEST automatic transmission for shifting fast and being durable and serviceable in 2019 is the Volkswagen Groups DSG dual clutch transmission. You can’t tell me the vw DSG is junk. You are mistaken if you think this. The CVTs in every brand cannot be “fixed” they are throw away transmissions and they are replaced, not rebuilt. Subaru’s should have just used a regular Auto trans with a torque converter.
@@eonr2499 Hybrid toyotas have eCVT, which is totally different belt CVT. eCVT is basically a planetary gear set transmission. The engine is connected to the carrier of planetary gears. One electric motor is on the sun gear. The other electric motor is on the ring gear. The two electric motors control the spinning speed of sun and ring gears, thus dividing the torque input from engine. The weakest part of Toyota hybrids is the battery pack.
Dood....upgrade ur center diff. With those tires that thing will flip you the bird.....
Knowing that the vehicle is equipped with CVT and buying it??????????????
Now that it's fixed, your next step should be to trade it in for a Manual Forrester, trust me, your wallet will thank you, and you'll be able to to with it *AND* take it to more challenging off road locations, other than gravel fire roads
I bought the 6 speed.
If you live in stop and go cities, a 6 speed would drive you insane.
Live in a big city, love the 6 speed.
Lots of Crosstrek's running manuals, F the CVT
So lifts does not void warranty?
In this case Subaru deemed the suspension, wheels, tires, and other mods did not impact this failure, yes. Warranty not voided.
Because of UNITED STATES LAW, here in CANADA we got the same extended warranty of 160,000 km/100,000 miles also. Not all dealerships are pricks !!! Some of them do not want to deal with these problems due to cost, and time .
P2764 and of course p0700 my whole dashboard lit up I went on you tube found video to reset it and no more lights on dashboard runs better
Dont buy the CVT Vehicles....
I don’t trust CVT transmissions as far as I could throw them. I have a 2017 Nissan Altima with only 34,000 mi. and the CVT completely went out already.
G H from what I hear, Nissan transmissions are shit
Floyd Matson You nailed it.
That was early. Nissan's usually last 44,000 miles 🤣
Cass Kemp Lol, right.
That's not fair to distrust all of them. Nissan uses a crappy belt and are known for going out under 60k.
Been looking for a new car and because Subaru is using cvt they are off the list. Had nothing but problems with our last car with a cvt. Cvt is amazing I just don’t think they belong in cars.
was your last CVT car a honda or basically anything other than subaru? cause those other manufacturers use a rubber like belt that is well known for failing before 60-80k miles, sometimes sooner. subaru uses a steel type link belt that lasts much longer. it's the same reason car makers are switching back to timing chains instead of belts. it's something that's hard to get to for a change so making them steel chains again means you don't have to change them often or at all(depending on your time owning the vehicle). subaru uses chains for the engine, and steel/chain link stype belts for the CVT. I haven't had issues with either for 165k miles(sticking to regular fluid change intervals).
Nissan Rogue. I’m pretty sure it was a steel belt but wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t. It just constantly overheated. Almost went through 2 transmissions in less than 100k miles.