@@robbie356 well then the times have certainly changed. For many years, especially since the 1980s, people have tended to gravitate towards an excessively bright sound. I would argue that this is what lead to the rise of Yamaha horns and high-baffle mouthpieces. You can also add in the emphasis and fascination with altissimo notes. Used to be that a darker sound was associated more with an orchestral sound. The rise of darker tones is a more recent thing. It’s also still a minority preference. How can I say this? Simply…just look at the mouthpiece line up for brands like Jody Jazz or Theo Wanne. There are more bright mouthpieces sold and represented than something like an Ambika, for example. I mostly hear of people preferring brightness. Just read the comments and see
The selmer for me has the typical selmer sound, where the Yani is more undefinable if that makes sense. It depends on what you're using the instrument for because both are amazing. Personally I prefer the Selmer
They're both gorgeous instruments. The real deciding factor would be what "feels" best to the player. I own a Signature tenor and love it, but I have a Yanagisawa alto and soprano. They're all great and I love them all.
The same mouthpiece and reed is usually not a good way to compare different saxes or even different necks. I have a solid silver neck that is warm sounding and it sounds amazing with brighter sounding reeds and brighter sounding mouthpieces. I have a brighter sounding brass neck that sounds amazing with warmer sounding reeds (like Boston Sax Black or Rigotti's Winds reeds).
From personal experience, I’ve always preferred Yanagisawa saxophones. They’re a little easier to blow, sound more full and fat across the range, and they achieve the tone that I’m looking for. I also like the keys and the look more not gonna lie.
I absolutely love both. Boils down to preference. I would take either horn as I still only play a YAS 23. That being said, Jay could play a kazoo and make it sound amazing!!!
Hey Jay. Do you have a transcription of this? It's beautiful. Regardless I will be trying to do it myself. Thanks to you I'm learning to play by ear and transcribing. For me it's the Selmer Signature. Can I have it dressed like the Yanagisawa though?
The Selmer is a bit brighter, but I can tell you play a Yanagisawa regularly. I'd love to hear the parts reversed. Same incidentals. I think the difference would still be what the player does with the horn, more than the natural tonality of the instrument. That said, I've been a Yanagisawa fan since the 80s, but I always played Selmers. I wonder how different the Selmer would sound with a burnin 6 and a 3 reed.
I literally just tested both of these head to head last week. My AWO33 arrives tomorrow. Nuff said. In all honesty both great horns, but I already own a Mark VI and there is a pretty good price difference that I don’t think the selmer earns.
They certainly both sound nice. You still sound like you on both. Between the two, I prefer the Yani. It sounds more open to me and broader as if it would fill the room. Of course that isn't necessarily how it is in person. I would be curious how it feels for you to play both -- what the resistance is like and how it resonates in your hands.
I was impressed with the Supreme tenor you recently tested. Much less so with this Signature alto. The Yani wins it hands down: full dark meaty sound. The Selmer sounds thin by comparison. Unusual to hear such a strong difference in a play test.. Thanks Jay.
I'm very loyal to my keilwerth alto and pretty attached to my yani 880 tenor, so I don't exactly like it when I like a selmer... but when I like them, I really like them. I wouldn't have expected the difference I hear.
I played a Mark vi for about 12 years, and I'm used to hearing an upper register that's slightly flat. It's just enough to bother me. You can lip it up, but it can thin the tone when/if you do. In a section, it's not enough to detect, but I hear it in solo works. It's the Yani for me!
By the way you play, I can tell you prefer the yanigasawa. I prefer the sharp and bright sound of the Selmer. Having said that, I'd be happy to own either of them😊
I prefer the Yanagisawa but I'm not gonna say one is the better. If you dig the sound of the Selmer thats cool too, some would say it's warmer. I play on a Silver Bell Super 20 so I'm so used to that type of sound.
If we’re talking 5-6 piece modern horn section with 1-2 trumpets, trombone, tenor, and baritone? I’d go with the Yani since I want it to melt it with the other saxes and the trumpets to be the brightest. Smaller section where the alto is the only sax, or the lead instrument? Selmer. Also, lead alto in big band section I’d choose Selmer, but any other position, the Yani. Tl;dr I can’t make up my damn mind. 😂
Yanny retains more of the lows and mids. Selmer is bright and trebly which tends to attract people who listen to pop music and have their EQs set too brightly. It almost doesn’t matter if the sound is getting processed. In an acoustic environment with minimal processing the Yanny will sound better on standards If you are needing to cut through the mix then the Selmer is the pick. Personally, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of the Yanny and I’m guessing you could put more air through that one while maintaining control
My opinion the signature opens up like a full bloom, the Yani sounds like a student horn and the sound stays in the body of the instrument. The yani is consistently in tune, the Selmer is typical, you’ve got to spend the time and it will be in tune but the Selmer is alive! That’s how I see it
Yanagisawa is the deal 👌
The Yanagisawa sounds slightly more spread tonally while the Selmer is quite focused. They both sound great. Thanks for posting this!
I played both and yani was super spread en selmer super focused. Big difference
Mí preferido es el Selmer, más cuerpo y sonido más nítido
remember guys a darker sound isnt always everyones preference
Only it is
@@FritzledingNo.
Did anyone say that it was??
@@KrisVComm a lot of people have said that so basically
@@robbie356 well then the times have certainly changed. For many years, especially since the 1980s, people have tended to gravitate towards an excessively bright sound. I would argue that this is what lead to the rise of Yamaha horns and high-baffle mouthpieces. You can also add in the emphasis and fascination with altissimo notes.
Used to be that a darker sound was associated more with an orchestral sound. The rise of darker tones is a more recent thing. It’s also still a minority preference.
How can I say this? Simply…just look at the mouthpiece line up for brands like Jody Jazz or Theo Wanne. There are more bright mouthpieces sold and represented than something like an Ambika, for example.
I mostly hear of people preferring brightness. Just read the comments and see
To me, the Selmer sounds brighter more crispier that’s what I like!!!🎉
Agreed...but Im a Yamaha man and id rather have that 😅😊
You mean Yamahahahaha man...hahaha😊😅😂@@JK-js2td
I wouldn't have a problem having either one of them, but if I had to pick one, I think I'd probably go with the Yanagisawa.
The Selmer sounds beautiful; the Yanagisawa sounds exceptional.
The selmer for me has the typical selmer sound, where the Yani is more undefinable if that makes sense. It depends on what you're using the instrument for because both are amazing. Personally I prefer the Selmer
The Yanagisawa sounds way more balanced and full.
Agree, is fatter sound!
selmer sounds brighter which i quite like
Selmer. It just sounds so good!!!
Hi, I'm from Brazil, your videos are very good, I really liked Selmer's sound
I liked the Yanagisawa best.
So close but I’ll say Selmer by a hair
I hear the Yanagisawa sax more “airy” than the Selmer sax.
I have to vote for the Selmer. More focused power but can play soft with smooth control just as well as the Yani.
Yanagisawa sounds fuller.
They're both gorgeous instruments. The real deciding factor would be what "feels" best to the player. I own a Signature tenor and love it, but I have a Yanagisawa alto and soprano. They're all great and I love them all.
Depends what a music do you want to play.
Both sounds really great!
I like the brighter tone of the selmer, but how does the playability compare?
Selmer for me. I prefer a little brighter. Both fine horns.
I prefer the Selmer signature , But it's real close because the yani sounds very good.
Yanagisawa sounds like it has a fuller sound.
Yanagisawa but very close with the Selmer. Does this Selmer still have the same intonation problems as other models in the past?
The yanagisawa sounds has such a warm tone 👌
Mr. Metcalf... which of these does not have a sticky Ab? That's the one for which I vote.
Selmer!
The same mouthpiece and reed is usually not a good way to compare different saxes or even different necks. I have a solid silver neck that is warm sounding and it sounds amazing with brighter sounding reeds and brighter sounding mouthpieces. I have a brighter sounding brass neck that sounds amazing with warmer sounding reeds (like Boston Sax Black or Rigotti's Winds reeds).
From personal experience, I’ve always preferred Yanagisawa saxophones. They’re a little easier to blow, sound more full and fat across the range, and they achieve the tone that I’m looking for. I also like the keys and the look more not gonna lie.
I would prefer to be able to choose wisch sax I wanna ause for which case. If I want a darker or brighter sound
I absolutely love both. Boils down to preference. I would take either horn as I still only play a YAS 23. That being said, Jay could play a kazoo and make it sound amazing!!!
Hey Jay. Do you have a transcription of this? It's beautiful. Regardless I will be trying to do it myself. Thanks to you I'm learning to play by ear and transcribing. For me it's the Selmer Signature. Can I have it dressed like the Yanagisawa though?
Man, both sound great. I'm going for the Selmer here, just slightly. I think it had the better core sound.
Selmer btw, i play a signature tenor and am more than pleased with its sound and response
The Selmer is a bit brighter, but I can tell you play a Yanagisawa regularly. I'd love to hear the parts reversed. Same incidentals. I think the difference would still be what the player does with the horn, more than the natural tonality of the instrument. That said, I've been a Yanagisawa fan since the 80s, but I always played Selmers. I wonder how different the Selmer would sound with a burnin 6 and a 3 reed.
Selmer for me
I literally just tested both of these head to head last week. My AWO33 arrives tomorrow. Nuff said. In all honesty both great horns, but I already own a Mark VI and there is a pretty good price difference that I don’t think the selmer earns.
They sound so close you would have to be a symphony director or audio engineer to hear the difference.
Definitely Yanagisawa 😍
They certainly both sound nice. You still sound like you on both. Between the two, I prefer the Yani. It sounds more open to me and broader as if it would fill the room. Of course that isn't necessarily how it is in person. I would be curious how it feels for you to play both -- what the resistance is like and how it resonates in your hands.
Getting a used Selmer USA alto tomorrow. Quite excited
the selmer usa omega?
Yani a little brighter with more projection ? I wonder if the selmer would work better with a softer setup to give it a little more sizzle
I was impressed with the Supreme tenor you recently tested. Much less so with this Signature alto. The Yani wins it hands down: full dark meaty sound. The Selmer sounds thin by comparison. Unusual to hear such a strong difference in a play test.. Thanks Jay.
Hello I was wondering what’s the name of the song being played.
Hello master. Can you set subtitles for your videos also for Czech language (Czech Republic, EU)?? Thank you, Radoslav, amateur saxophonist 👍🏻🎷😉🇨🇿
Both fantastic but I like the Selmer a tad more here
There’s a velvety richness to the Yani which gives it THAT much more edge over the selmer
Selmer 👏🏻🎷
Selmer, I found in Selmer a bit more the way I like!
I'm very loyal to my keilwerth alto and pretty attached to my yani 880 tenor, so I don't exactly like it when I like a selmer... but when I like them, I really like them. I wouldn't have expected the difference I hear.
Selmer sounds crisp
Hard to choose, both sounds great. I think the Yani might have a more complex tone, which I like.
the selmer because the yanagisawa is mainly about the darker sound but if you want a darker sound just get a tenor
The choice falls on the ears of the beholder and sound he/she is more attracted to. Not all ears are the same.
My own personal tone gravitates more towards the selmer but damn, that warmth from the Yana really melts the soul!
I played a Mark vi for about 12 years, and I'm used to hearing an upper register that's slightly flat. It's just enough to bother me. You can lip it up, but it can thin the tone when/if you do. In a section, it's not enough to detect, but I hear it in solo works. It's the Yani for me!
Whats the name of the song your playing?
By the way you play, I can tell you prefer the yanigasawa. I prefer the sharp and bright sound of the Selmer. Having said that, I'd be happy to own either of them😊
Supreme! 😋
selmer for me
Both are great horns and the sound is very close but I will go with the Seller.
Selmer all the way!
Doesn't matter. The player is what makes the music. 90% right?
Yanagisawa ❤
Selmer, of course!!!
Yanagisawa is a preferred sound for this test!!
Selmer. It seems to cut thru a lot more which is more my taste.
Both are lovely, but the Selmer wins for my ear.
Both sound good. But Which one requires less work out of the box? Every selmer I had requires so much tech work to make it consistently playable.
Yanagisawas are ready for the stage right out of the box.
Selmer has way more thicker sound and altough Yani sound brighter is thiner sound and Selmer Will Project better.
Selmer the best ! ❤
I like the Selmer more because of its brilliant, yet full sound.
So, so close. However, Im going for the Yanagisawa. The lower notes did it for me.
the second one has a warmer and more chill tone. so i prefer it, as they can be better feeling to play
like the Yanagisawa more has more ability to form the sound to your needs
I prefer the Yanagisawa but I'm not gonna say one is the better. If you dig the sound of the Selmer thats cool too, some would say it's warmer. I play on a Silver Bell Super 20 so I'm so used to that type of sound.
There is an add on on the yana so comparison not fair... but Selmer is the best
Loving the Yana
Me gustó el Selmer ❤
Yanagisawa! All the time 🥳
My vote goes to Selmergisawa. 😊
Signiaturee.....super cool.
I prefer yanagi of course. Very rich sound, auto handsome++ its my dream sax!
The Selmer soubds brighter. The Yanagisawa soubds a little sweeter. 😊
If we’re talking 5-6 piece modern horn section with 1-2 trumpets, trombone, tenor, and baritone? I’d go with the Yani since I want it to melt it with the other saxes and the trumpets to be the brightest. Smaller section where the alto is the only sax, or the lead instrument? Selmer. Also, lead alto in big band section I’d choose Selmer, but any other position, the Yani. Tl;dr I can’t make up my damn mind. 😂
Yanagisawa sounds for me much better 👍🙏
Yanny retains more of the lows and mids. Selmer is bright and trebly which tends to attract people who listen to pop music and have their EQs set too brightly.
It almost doesn’t matter if the sound is getting processed.
In an acoustic environment with minimal processing the Yanny will sound better on standards
If you are needing to cut through the mix then the Selmer is the pick.
Personally, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of the Yanny and I’m guessing you could put more air through that one while maintaining control
SMMMOOOTH🎷‼️
Selmer is more open and less muffled.
Selmer💯🔥
Both are great instruments. If you are rich, buy both and lend me one.
I love the yanigasawa
Selmer is the best
My opinion the signature opens up like a full bloom, the Yani sounds like a student horn and the sound stays in the body of the instrument. The yani is consistently in tune, the Selmer is typical, you’ve got to spend the time and it will be in tune but the Selmer is alive! That’s how I see it
There both nice sounding. Pretty simpler
Se for para me presentear, aceito qualquer um deles🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Dois instrumentos incríveis. ....mas aceito um Yamaha 62 também 😉
Selmer with brighter sound
Yanagisawa sounds better to my ear as well!
Yana is the best
I preferred the Yanagisawa.
The Yani sound is more all over the place in tone