Hat's edges are brims, not rims. And I've read on other clips (I didn't remember it) they didn't buzz prepositional phrases back then. In the 80s and now, they kind of had to. The players were too good in the 80s and now the subjects are easier.
Great wqin, but I think that Fred gave a descriptive clue on the top box. Should have been buzzed, but the judges missed it. Oh well, at least the lady was excited to win $10,000.
That one's borderline. The hoop itself is described as a rim, which does not fit the subject. However, if you define the hoop as to include the backboard and support poles, it'd be a yes. Similar to using "Diving Board" for "Things with a Platform", because the diving board includes the fulcrum and the supports.
Cool people is an invalid clue. The category is things with grooves not groovy things so the clue doesn't fit the category....or was this a rule back then?
Maybe. At the end of the day (similar to "diving board" on things with a platform), likely yes, but they may have zapped initially because the hoop is sometimes described as "the rim", meaning it isn't something with a rim. But because the basketball hoop includes the backboard and support poles, it should be OK.
Not sure what episode you're referring to, but I do wonder if it was argued during the commercial that, when you buy a basketball hoop at a sporting goods store, you get the backboard and support hardware in addition to the rim. I know for sure Things with a Platform was buzzed for "diving board", when a "diving board" includes the support fulcrum, railings for the high ones, and the platform. It was reversed after the commercial, and then Stuart Pankin made a joke about the judge that got a buzzer response from the judge.
Descriptive, no. "With" is the key word. If "a basket ball hoop" can be described as including the backboard, the supports, and the connecting hardware, it would be OK. If not, then it cannot, because it IS a rim, not something with a rim. A similar thing came up with "Things with a platform" in the 80's, and the clue "diving board" was given. It was buzzed, but later determined acceptable because the diving board includes the supports.
A similarly worded clue by Fred at the buzzer in part 4 of this episode was deemed illegal, yet his clue here was not. And it's not like the judges on this show didn't have the heart to take away an answer that won the big money if the clue was illegal. Sometimes during a celebration you would hear the buzzer sounding in the background and see the trilon turned to its "blank" pyramid side, and they'd have to calm everyone down and break it to the contestant that he/she didn't win the big money.
With paint on an easel, you're describing the paint, which is a thing itself. However, with the inside of a wheel, "inside" isn't really a thing so much as a locator, with the "wheel" still being the thing, so it was OK. Obviously in later years they modified the rules to exclude descriptive prepositional phrases (not ALL prepositions, as sometimes you have the title of something like "Hall of Fame" or "Table of Contents" that's still OK), but the spirit of the rule has always remained the same.
Back then, they were described sometimes as "groovy". Might not have been allowed in the 80's because "cool" and "groovy" may be synonymous, but naturally the 70's rules were a little different. These days it'd be a tough category... a record, an interstate shoulder... a new dirt road... can't think of too many more.
No, there was one where Laurie (forget her last name) was trying to describe “Things that are engraved” and they didn’t get it. She said, I wanted to say the inside of a wedding ring and Dick said, “We’ll, yes, it would ha be to be a wedding ring”a inside.” You could use “of” if it was part of the clue itself such as “queen of Hearts” and the category is Alice in Wonderland characters. But using it to describe something? NEVER!
A marvelous exciting win with terrific clues given by an outstanding Entertainer with superb quality all around!!!!!
I jumped up for that win!!! Good going babe!!! You did great.
The Grand Canyon, a glass, a basketball net
The INSIDE OF A WHEEL is a description. 😮
A very good win and nicely done.
GOOD JOB, Gopher!!
Inside of a Wheel would be buzzed in the 80s, no?
Zach Horan nope.
Zach Horan
Yes, he would have been buzzed in the 80's for sure. How about saying A WHEELS' INSIDE...or A HAT'S EDGES
Hat's edges are brims, not rims. And I've read on other clips (I didn't remember it) they didn't buzz prepositional phrases back then. In the 80s and now, they kind of had to. The players were too good in the 80s and now the subjects are easier.
What is the name of the font used on the Winner's Circle dollar amounts?
The inside of a wheel should have been buzzed as it is an illegal clue. Another judging mistake.
"The inside of a wheel" contains a prepositional phrase. He should have been buzzed.
They were more lenient in the 70s. Tony Randall once said "stuffings in little bottles of pills" for Things Made of Cotton, and his partner won.
Great wqin, but I think that Fred gave a descriptive clue on the top box. Should have been buzzed, but the judges missed it. Oh well, at least the lady was excited to win $10,000.
I like freds clue of cool people
YOU GO, GOPHER!! lol
EDGE might've been a synonym for RIM in the 1980's though
Basketball hoops= Things with a rim
That one's borderline. The hoop itself is described as a rim, which does not fit the subject. However, if you define the hoop as to include the backboard and support poles, it'd be a yes. Similar to using "Diving Board" for "Things with a Platform", because the diving board includes the fulcrum and the supports.
Speaking of groovy - I love her husband's "groovy" clothes lol! Ah I miss the 70's!
"things with grooves" should have been a $100,000 category
Cool people is an invalid clue. The category is things with grooves not groovy things so the clue doesn't fit the category....or was this a rule back then?
A basket ball hoop, Would they have accepted that??
Yes that would have been accepted.
Maybe. At the end of the day (similar to "diving board" on things with a platform), likely yes, but they may have zapped initially because the hoop is sometimes described as "the rim", meaning it isn't something with a rim. But because the basketball hoop includes the backboard and support poles, it should be OK.
They buzzed it on another occasion
Not sure what episode you're referring to, but I do wonder if it was argued during the commercial that, when you buy a basketball hoop at a sporting goods store, you get the backboard and support hardware in addition to the rim. I know for sure Things with a Platform was buzzed for "diving board", when a "diving board" includes the support fulcrum, railings for the high ones, and the platform. It was reversed after the commercial, and then Stuart Pankin made a joke about the judge that got a buzzer response from the judge.
That's right. The key is to avoid a prepositional phrase.
He should have been buzzed for that. Too descriptive I think. Your only suppose to give a list. They were very generous with that.
That was common place in the 70's. 80's you may have been correct.
They were much more lenient in the early years of the show.
@@DannyBkyn Would my clue of "The edge of a cup/bowl" have been buzzed?
@@jasonbeard4713 Yes. Because a cup or bowl's edge IS a rim - they don't HAVE rims.
@@DannyBkyn Thank you. I feel that this portion of Pyramid and Password are the two best game shows, forcing you to use your mind.
What the hell is the problem??
HOW did he get away with “the inside of a wheel?” WOW!
They weren't as strict as the 80's version was.
@@gladfan1989 This. That would've been buzzed as prepositional all day long, and that's why Belfast Bailey made the mention.
Did she say "this is my friend, Dick Clark"?
themurph2000 Yup!
A basket ball hoop? Is that to discriptive
Descriptive, no. "With" is the key word. If "a basket ball hoop" can be described as including the backboard, the supports, and the connecting hardware, it would be OK. If not, then it cannot, because it IS a rim, not something with a rim. A similar thing came up with "Things with a platform" in the 80's, and the clue "diving board" was given. It was buzzed, but later determined acceptable because the diving board includes the supports.
To my knowledge, they allowed phrases with the word "of"
A similarly worded clue by Fred at the buzzer in part 4 of this episode was deemed illegal, yet his clue here was not. And it's not like the judges on this show didn't have the heart to take away an answer that won the big money if the clue was illegal. Sometimes during a celebration you would hear the buzzer sounding in the background and see the trilon turned to its "blank" pyramid side, and they'd have to calm everyone down and break it to the contestant that he/she didn't win the big money.
Nixing "paint on an easel" and accepting "the inside of a wheel" is pretty arbitrary. Is it that "easel" is a more specific word than "inside?"
With paint on an easel, you're describing the paint, which is a thing itself. However, with the inside of a wheel, "inside" isn't really a thing so much as a locator, with the "wheel" still being the thing, so it was OK. Obviously in later years they modified the rules to exclude descriptive prepositional phrases (not ALL prepositions, as sometimes you have the title of something like "Hall of Fame" or "Table of Contents" that's still OK), but the spirit of the rule has always remained the same.
THE INSIDE OF A WHEEL? A WHEEL'S INSIDE would've been better,
Illegal clue. But they let it go… congratulations
"things with grooves" should have been tougher - or maybe would be later on
I just can't see how a cool person has grooves
Back then, they were described sometimes as "groovy". Might not have been allowed in the 80's because "cool" and "groovy" may be synonymous, but naturally the 70's rules were a little different.
These days it'd be a tough category... a record, an interstate shoulder... a new dirt road... can't think of too many more.
OF is the only propositional phrase PYRAMID ever allowed.
That's right.
@@jmjfanss No, it ain't - "why" and "say" categories were free-for-alls
No, there was one where Laurie (forget her last name) was trying to describe “Things that are engraved” and they didn’t get it. She said, I wanted to say the inside of a wedding ring and Dick said, “We’ll, yes, it would ha be to be a wedding ring”a inside.” You could use “of”
if it was part of the clue itself such as “queen of Hearts” and the category is Alice in Wonderland characters. But using it to describe something? NEVER!
THE INSIDE OF...is part of a prepositional phrase thst should not have been accepted at all. The judging at this time was horrendous.
@yandrsupreme of is accepted.
One of the rules was that prepositional phrases were illegal clues. And the judge sure made a mistake.
In the 70's, they always allowed you to use "of".