IF I MIGHT SPEAK IN MY DEFENSE. I... am weirded out by becoming minor lore in this saga of shit-kicking people who irk you. First of, right, first of all, I was already flustered by you zooming in and saying "I'll be gentle". That's a lot to begin with right there. So there's that established. And then there's the fact I was having dinner at the time, so when I heard my name read out I just assumed it was coincidence, then realised I was receiving a drubbing down FOR NO OTHER REASON than being damn accurate (and you know I was. You SAID I was.) and then my entire comment was read out. I declare myself maligned, besmirched and, yes, scalded. BUT I MIGHT ADD! This all comes as a devastating blow, since I have shouted you out to over 20,000 people since last summer. Here's me on The Alizee Yeezy show, saying how good you were in your Peter Rabbit video: ua-cam.com/video/cxRX4eNAt_U/v-deo.html (1:07:00) Now, you might be thinking 'What did he mean "only 30,000 subscribers"?' - well, I shall tell you: Alizee is staunchly contrary and won't let me finish thoughts, so rather than going on to give her shit, as I did, I INTENDED to say that you, Galatea, (who must be reading this with what I hope is nothing short of contrition and penitence at this stage) only have thirty thousand subscribers DESPITE - despite, right - despite putting out great content. WELL THEN. I think we've all learned a thing or two about who does and doesn't deserve to be kicked out of the cult for blind loyalty. - - P.S. Audrey Hepburn's being an actress is actually the LEAST interesting part of that woman's life - she's amazing and people reading this far should go read about her and stop giving me the business because I'm still so, so very confused as to how I got here.
NO ROB DON'T BE MAD I've had a think and decided that you can be in the cult after all. Take it as a sign of my graciousness for allowing this, even though you didn't properly apologise (in all seriousness though thanks for the shout out, it is much appreciated, and I'm very sorry for bullying you)
@@theauthenticobserver Cult membership restored! F*** yeah! I'm great at cults. And I'll properly apologise when I get a Mulan video, yeah? Yeah. (In all seriousness though I'll properly apologise when I get a Mulan video. Your move.)
@@АннаКопатько Oh hey, thanks for watching! What a strange venn diagram of content you have to watch. And if Galatea wants to come on the podcast to address this case, this dispute, this FEUD, then she can email Alizee and we can settle it like calm, mature adults... ... or as putulant children in a fist fight. I'm personally fine with either one.
Or we could just accept the fact that not everything is either 'masculine' or 'feminine' and that certain traits can and should be found in both genders. Women can be strong and should not need to call themselves 'strogn' or 'independent' to be considered on the same 'level' as a man.
I wish I could remember who said this so I can give them credit, but 'Why are we turning strong female into toxic masculinity?' Because not only are female characters being turned into men, but writers are giving them all the 'bad' male traits framed as strength.
You don't, but you can. Just like you can make a man have qualities traditionally labeled as feminine you can have a woman take on qualities you traditionally see in males. There is this interesting thing called 'fiction' that allows you to do this kind of stuff, you all might want to check it out I think you might like it.
because there are no personality traits or interests inherent to men or women. masculinity and femininity are man-made constructs, and femininity is meant to weaken women. beauty, submission, grace, self-sacrifice are all negative traits that serve only to weaken us, and these are not female traits, they are feminine traits. femininity is inherently negative, and handmaidens like this idiot up here are only pushing propaganda. "IT'S OKAY TO BE FEMININE!!!" yeah, we know. femininity is not under attack, it has never been under attack, this is a victim complex handmaidens have because one feminist once said "have you tried not wearing makeup?" and they lost their fucking minds. women with swords and armor are NOT like men, because they are women. if you think dresses, makeup and glamor are what makes you "like a woman", you're a misogynist.
What I really hate about this portrayal of Galadriel is that it shows how immature the world has become where people who kill are seen as something special. J R R Tolkien fought in a real war, the 1st world war and he learnt the truth: there is nothing special about killing. Anyone can do it. But those who save lives by healing and who prevent wars by leading and ruling wisely are people who are truly special. And he made Galadrial one of those people. Someone who witnessed real violence and choose a different path.
Maybe Galadriel learns this lesson through fighting in a war as well? I haven’t read the books or watched the show so my opinion doesn’t really matter BUT what if her being a hardcore ruthless warrior only to learn that she simply cannot save the world with violence IS a fitting way to explain how she became who she is? I mean she’s had 5,000 years to mature, it does make a certain sense that her younger self could be a wild combat-focused warrior almost unrecognizable to who she becomes? It almost makes her allure more meaningful, because she developed that quality instead of being born with it. Maybe baby Galadriel IS the awkward teen girl trying to use brute force to prove her strength but realizes through the years that she’s doing herself and her people a disservice. Of course idk what the show runners are going to do, they might totally fumble it.
@@cdass001 she doesn't though, ROP Galadrial is basically just 21st century American Girl boss. Tolkien's Galadrial never fought in wars but she did witness her people the Noldor commit the first of the kinslayings (elves killing elves) when the Noldor killed the Teleri and stole their ships to get to Middle Earth. She was disgusted by it but went to Middle Earth for her own reasons (to reign over her own fiefdom). As soon as she got to Middle Earth both her and her brother got away from the Noldor and their Lord Feanor whom she dispised. Amazon Galadrial acts more like Feanor she's arrogant, cruel, motivated by self interest and does not care about what effects this has on people around her. And this is portrayed as a good thing.
In Gimli's defense, asking your beloved lady for a strand of her hair to carry with you to the battlefield is actually an old school tradition among soldiers, so it's not that weird a thing for someone in Middle Earth to ask
Sad how Feminism fell from Grace, partially validly so, partially not valid. Just sayin': Some of the most educated, warm People on the Internet, like Emma Thorne, Pop Culture Detective and Hbomberguy consider themselves Feminists.
This gesture is one of the most historical important events in whole fucking middle earth. Let me elaborate, there once was the mightiest kings of the elves Fëanor. Who saw Galadriel’s Hair, witch looked like it had the light of the two Tree’s shining through them (Before Sun and Moon, two threes made the light; one golden, one silver). He longed for her hair and asked her three times, but see saw the darkness and the greed in his heart and denied three times. (Fore more details read the Silmarillion ore Google) Then thousand years later she gets asked again by Gimli, a dwarf. But his heart is pure, fore he ist just full of admiration and she grant’s him his wish; she who denied here one kid but give it to a dwarf. Which Gimli will set in crystal and will be an symbol for the friendship of Elves and Dwarfs, two groups that hated and slaughtered each other throughout centuries… And Galadriel does it and nobody said something against it. (Sorry fore my bad English)
“Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short and wear shirts and boots because it's okay to be a boy; for girls it's like promotion. But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, according to you, because secretly you believe that being a girl is degrading.” Ian McEwan, the cement garden
This sentence is full of logical fallacies. This person seems to identify BEING a girl with PRESENTING a certain way, like having long hair, wearig a dress and make up etc. But PRESENTING a certain way doesn't mean you ARE a woman or a man. The only thing that decides whether you're a woman or a man are your chromosomes, not the way you dress and cut your hair. A boy who has long hair and wears a dress does not "look" like a girl. He simply looks like a long haired boy in a dress.
@@InstariusI think the quote uses presentation as a comment on femininity and masculinity. As in: "Modern society approves of masculine women, but men who are feminine are 'lesser'". I don't think it's really a comment on biological sex. It seems more like a statement on modern gender politics. Also, presentation is fairly important to gender. You are right that it isn't a necessity, but many people use gender presentation to express their gender identity. Maybe you know that already, but I couldn't tell from your comment.
Let’s be honest though jeans are more practical than a dress. If you want to do work, be comfortable or be productive in any way you wear pants not a dress. Only thing a dress does is look pretty. A lot of the things we consider to be masculine like wearing pants or having short hair don’t even make any sense. In olden times men had long hair too also they often times dressed in a way we would consider feminine depending on if they were nobility or not. A lot of this stuff is pure bs fed to us via 1950s propaganda which is a very recent and new thing.
@@dreamsprayanimation Oh! Most definitely! Gendered clothing is one of the weirdest things in the world! Wear what you wanna wear! No need to make a dress for women, short hair for men, and pink for girls. Some of our Prestablished genderized items are just weird.
I hate how ultra feminine women are often demonised, or made to be inferior characters compared to tomboys. Fortunately, Elle Woods trampled all over this tired stereotype in her stilettos!
oh yeah, they def are 'demonised' in hollywood's eyes but let's not act like femininity and being feminine isn't the standard for women everywhere. same as masculinity is for men.
@@TheNuclearNihilist I seriously don’t understand how you got that from my initial comment. what an absurd conclusion. I said that femininity is the standard for ALL females (women AND girls) just like how for males it is masculinity. Just because hollywood demonised being ditzy and ultra feminine doesn’t mean that femininity is some sort of oppressed aesthetic for women when it is quite literally created by the patriarchy just like how masculinity is.
That metaphor on how femininity is a double-edged sword that is suddenly handed to a teenager girl that may be powerful but can just as easily hurt themselves is great.
Also applies to masculinity actually. Suddenly you are expected to be an agent of aggression and bravado. Great if you know how to walk that tightrope but you will fall hard if you get it wrong.
Society is often harsh on teenage girls she can never just be one thing cause she'll get shamed either way. You cant be strictly feminine and you cant be strictly masculine either and sometimes you cant be both at the same time. The internet just hates teenage girls. We might as well just not exist if being female is such a problem. A woman cant just be herself if its a problem to those around her.
@@mayormccheese6171 Also, do you want to walk that rope? Just like women can feel pressured to conform to femininity or nowadays, break it, not all teenage guys are the brash type. Teenagehood is a very frightening time and what she said about wanting to crawl out of one's skin truly was accurate, and more widely applicable than she might think.
I love your way of defending femininity. My only small disagreement with you here is that I think there's something to be said about the strength of Snow White and Cinderella. I think they are very strong characters through their positivity despite abuse, kindness and the hope they still maintain.
sure, I totally get what you're saying - I think those qualities are important - though I do still think there's an argument that those characters can sometimes fall too far on the side of ... passivity, maybe? I agree that there's strength in them not loosing their softness even during suffering, but I also still think it'd be too easy for them to get gobbled up by a wolf. I'd just prefer them to be a bit more balanced
@@theauthenticobserver I agree, especially Snow White. Snow White used to be my favorite Disney movie, I would watch it all the time, but even as a 5 year old I thought how stupid she was for taking something from a stranger 😆 I guess as a little kid it was drilled into my head to not trust strangers. So I never liked Snow White as a princess, but I loved Cinderella. Cinderella is passive too, but some of the new iterations were fantastic, especially the 2015 live action version. I absolutely adore that version of the story. I would also recommend the book Ella Enchanted. The movie is ridiculous but the book is amazing!
I often watch The Take "Cinderella: stop blaming the victim" (Link: ua-cam.com/video/huLSdm6IH0g/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheTake) Because I find it is such a good essay that encapsulates a lot of the things that makes the old version of cinderella strong. And it also goes into the whole "hate on femininity". It's only 13 min long, but it's the best video essay to come out about the old version of Cinderella, if you ask me :)
@@theauthenticobserver I would disagree with you on that point. In term of passive character, I would say the Slepping Beauty is more in this realm, but Cinderella and Snow-White, I wouldn't say. Both of them work really hard every day to build a home and protect the people around them (the 7 dwarf for Snow-White and the animals for Cinderella who protect the mice from the Cat for example). And this is the power of femininity in my mind, not fighting the evil with a sword, but creating a home for the ones who have not. Galadriel, for example, is the queen of a kingdom she has built herself, and transform into a heaven on earth, and protect from the power of evil for thousands of years. Movies are full of heroes ready to die against their enemy, but what give someone the courage to face death ? That's why I would say Snow-White and Cinderella are weak. They have given the dwarves and the animals the strength and courage to defend them, and when both of them were in danger the cowardly mice and the grumpy dwarves haven't hesitated to fight in their name. I wouldn't say it is passivity. And I highly doubt a wolf could gobble them without a hunter killed him in the second.
I grew up reading the Anne of Green Gables books and I always thought she was such a perfect model of femininity that modern teenage girls aren't getting to see nowadays as an influence. She was strong-willed and smart, and there was nothing sexual about her and yet she grew up to have a romance with her dashing husband and children and lived a full life. I loved her even when she was the mother character in the later books, she was still the Anne we knew, interesting but mature now.
I read the book at 30 and was so appalled by the pedagogy I just couldn't finish reading it. Anne herself is headstrong, creative, intelligent, sharp, and down to earth, and I don't think these qualities have been lost at all. Also, I would argue that some women experience not being sexualised today, too.
Yes, it’s more than a little infantilizing to pretend that sexuality doesn’t enter into girls life until she’s being courted by her husband. It sounds like you have a stunted idea of what is correctly “feminine”
I think the first time I realized your point was watching Avatar the Last Airbender. It blew my mind that there were so many strong women, some tomboyish and some soft, some mom-ish, some sexy. It blew my mind because every character was powerful along the lines of their own strengths and character types.
It's a very good series, with very good characters. People that make mistakes, have flaws, need to learn and grow. Villains who are allowed to be sympathetic, while still being villains or even actually evil. The actual Toph.
And it is also funny that the most hated character of the main cast is Katara, the more feminine, feelings-oriented, mom-ish, caring character, and the favorite female character by far is Toph, the tomboy, kinda rude, and physically strong one EVEN THOUG Katara is just as strong as toph. and is often being hated on for being "annoying" with her outburst of feelings, for being protective and or "rude" , mean while toph doing the exact same thing it is just "funny" or just "toph" lol
I was a "tomboy" as a kid because I think I thought femininity was a negative. I like dressing much more feminine now and own it, but back then it felt like it would make me look stupid and weak. I don't know what made me feel that way, but probably for similar reasons that you outlined in the "the kids are not okay" section. Loved the "My Fair Lady" inserts hahaha
Yea i relate to this. I definitely had the "not like other girls mindset" growing up mostly because i was afraid of getting made fun of for enjoying girly stuff and being seen as "just stupid girl". Now I'm halfway in my 20s I have a baby pink phone case with liquid glitter and nobody can stop me.
I bounce between a tomboy and a classic feminine women especially with what I like and dress. unfortunately they are also pushing this towards the strand community, if I ever talk about how sometimes I feel girly sometimes I feel boyish they would say its gender fluid. Im fine with trans, in fact I'm in the lgbt myself but I feel like they are pushing way too far.
I just had a flashback to university when we were talking about Howl's Moving Castle and the tutor said that Sophie's magic to talk life into things was antifeminist because it was, according to them, basically magic childbirth and find myself just as annoyed as I was on that day as if Sophie isn't meant to be a feminine feminist protagonist and the fact she can make a walking stick spring to life and beat the shit out of someone or make flowers bloom or wilt with a word shouldn't detract from that as if it's a detriment to her character and story or her ability to be a feminist role model to readers
WHAT NO omg I replied to another comment talking about Sophie and how she's one of my favourite characters ever, HER POWERS ARE SO COOL and positive and powerful and wonderful and also WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH MAGIC CHILDBIRTH ANYWAY SHE CAN LITERALLY CREATE LIFE good god, I would say childbirth basically is magic you've literally created another whole person how is that demeaning in any way I will hear no bad words against Sophie she is such a legend
Wow, looking at everything through the feminist lens really must ruin everything :( My mom said it ruined all the literary classes she took at college.
What an appalling lack of analysis for someone meant to be teaching others. Even if we accept the premise that speaking life into things was intended as a metaphor for childbirth, which is a massive stretch because it parallels many different creation myths involving *male* deities, how the heck did the teacher come to the conclusion that this godlike power is a bad thing? This really just reinforces the idea that feminists hate femininity and only value stereotypically male traits in female characters.
And that's not even considering what she does to grow Howl, helping him to overcome his own personal demons, namely immaturity and vanity. Sophie is an amazing character.
I can't imagine someone looking at Galadriel and going "Yeah, she's pretty cool, but she doesn't kick ASS though". It's such a watered down definition of power. Galadriel isn't just ancient, or magical, or beautiful. She's all those things to an overpowering, alien degree. In the movies I was always struck by how uncanny and a little frightening she is; it feels like she could drive you insane if she wanted to. Or that an unprepared mortal could waste away basking in her light.
Galadriel is basically the Yoda of LOTR. She has this otherworldness about her. You really think if she wasn't unblinking grinning at you by the magic pool she could melt your brain with just her thoughts. (Cate? Kingdom of The Crystal Skull anyone?) That scene in Fellowship alone with Frodo is kind of unnerving. Ditto how Yoda can lift X Wings with a little puppet finger and his "....you will be....you WILL be" afraid retort. It takes away from their mysterious when you hand them phallic protective tools AKA swords. Swords are awesome, I own some and love them, but Galidi is more powerful than a mere sward!
There isn't a literal instance, no. Galadriel did cast down the walls of Dol Guldur in the Ring War, but that's not melee combat--and she was greatly empowered by the elven ring. The only place I can think of where Galadriel could have done any real fighting was during the Kinslaying, Helcaraxë episodes--surely an all hands on deck situation.
Its rare to find a strong woman in fiction nowadays who isn't on a mission to prove how strong and independant she is, and in doing so, ironically reveals how insecure she is.
“Nowadays” i dont like it when ppl use that word cuz it implies that it somehow was better before mainstream female rep isnt good now and it was never good
The way girl protagonists were written in mainstream YA fiction when I was growing up seriously mucked with my mentality. After going through serious trauma as a teen, I looked to them as role models and ended up toughening myself to the point where any vulnerability or gentleness was stifled. I thought I was being strong, but I was really just killing myself emotionally. In reality letting those experiences soften me and make me gentler and kinder would've been much more of a show of strength imo. 16 y/o me: "I can take out anyone who messes with me!" No honey, you can't. But what you CAN do is use your experience to help nurture and love people who need your help.
Goodness do I have some beef over how women are written in modern YA. It's so angry and dripping with internalized misogyny. Heck some of the most self-identified "feminist" ones treat every female character that isn't the heroine like dumb cowardly bimbos.
@@jessip8654 I have defninetely seen this and it is annoying, but I also think that there are fairly many YA novels that stray from that formula. I'm not always the most observant, so it's possible I overlooked problematic aspects but in my experience there are quite a few YA novels (especially released over the last four years) where the protagonist is really embracing their own identity - no matter how feminine or masculine it is - and really showing respect to other young women, even if they are completely different from them. Sadly I think that often the more popular ones are also the more problematic ones, and books with only 40 reviews on goodreads will actually turn out quite neat... bad editing aside :D
On some level this is why I loved Tamora Pierce’s books when I was younger. Especially The Song of the Lioness. Sure it starts just as a girl wanting to become a knight and going in secret and disguising herself to beat all the boys, but she has a very interesting emotional journey where she not only learns to respect other women. She learns she likes them. And what’s more she learns she does like to be feminine. Maybe not always. She isn’t going out to battle in a dress, but she realizes the simple fact that she is allowed to like pretty things. I think that left an impression on me. That you can do both in whatever combination you choose. And yet so many books for girls fail to stick that landing. Falling into the trope that you must give up your femininity to be something important.
I'm a female martial artist, and I grappled with being 'tough' to be taken seriously. Because apparently we can't be multifaceted human beings that can choose to be strong in our own ways.
Sad how Feminism fell from Grace, partially validly so, partially not valid. Just sayin': Some of the most educated People on the Internet, like Emma Thorne, Pop Culture Detective and Hbomberguy consider themselves Feminists.
Reminds me of a horrible young adult book called Tiger Lily I read recently. Made it out so that the main girl was practically 'a man in a female body', then all the 'other girls' are pathetic with 'fragile, flexible curves' that can't do anything. The author was basically saying that unless girls are practically tr*ns men, they're just stuffy joykills who can't do anything. Made me want to barf.
On the contrary, feminism is bout society learning to revalue the feminine and femininity. It's mainstream society that posits masculinity above femininity. Feminism is just pointing that out. It's not condoning it.
@@StrongImaginationA well said. I've learned hard over the years that Feminism is too broad and has broadened to include lives and cultures of different women and from different ages and generations. In both for better or for worse, but hopefully true feminists must look into this movement with an objective, empathetic and critical eye.
Just so you know, Men also go through that identity crisis of not knowing how masculine they should be, or if it's okay to be masculine and when. The mechanics may be different but we have a lot in common.
That's because every culture and historical period disagrees over how men and boys should behave, thinking of masculinity as public social acts, rather than a constant, body-based inner identity.
Starting at 16 I developed an eating disorder. I would have 6 month perios of restriction and "recovery" (in all actuality I was just pendulum swinging from one extreme to another) this happened so many times and I thought it would never end. Then, all of the sudden a year or so ago, something changed. I started embracing my femininity instead of ignoring/hiding from it like I had my whole life. I learned about personal grooming, how to do my makeup/hair and style outfits, I also am just now learning skills that I should've learned long ago about cleaning, cooking, finance handling, etc. I also grew to embrace feminine aspects of my personality, kindness, gentleness, creativity, performance, intelligence, subtlety, and an intense desire to create/nuture/protect. I used to be ashamed of these aspects of my personality and tried to hide them, but now that I really know who I am and am embracing that I am naturally very feminine, I feel a confidence I've never felt before and I feel absolutely no desire to binge or restrict my food intake. Obviously it's only been a bit over a year, but I think this change has really made me turn a corner. I've never been so happy with who I am, I feel I've finally accepted myself. So many years on Tumblr had convinced me that femininity was vapid and shallow, and that wanting to be a mother/ wife meant you hated women and wanted us to be oppressed, or that you were stupid and incapable of doing something "better". And that, I say, is BS. Lovely video!
Creativity and intelligence, which are correlated, aren't feminine or masculine traits per say. The average intelligence in men and women is the same. Sorry for nitpicking this, but the implication of intelligence being exclusively a feminine trait made my blood boil. I wholeheartedly agree with you, that aforementioned feminine traits are important for a balanced persona. Not just for women but also for men.
Good story, but one thing doesn't fit? "I learned about personal grooming, how to do my makeup/hair and style outfits. . ." What. Those things aren't inherent to being a women? Aren't those the superficial parts that people think they can just 'take on'? I hate makeup/fashion because they are just industries that want your money and I'm pretty sure I'm still feminine.
This is probably why I love those historical romance fantasy webcomics, they have strong female lead that relies more on her wits and charm rather than leading an army on the front lines. I just love the idea that women can be capable in other things, just so much more than what they want us to be.
I think teenagers in general are accused of being annoying all the time. I mean teenage boys are stereotyped as being prone to vandalism, alcoholism, anger issues, general stupidity etc.
another thing to remember about Galadriel is that she is a mother at the time of the show, having married Celeborn in the first age and her daughter was born very early in the second age.
One thing Galatea brought up I agreed with completely. Motherhood is really degraded and reduced to “mothers are only wombs to carry a child.” Terminator: Dark Fate is the best example of that. They tried to make it all feminist by saying that the new chick is the savior of the world. She’s not just the mother of the hero who saves the world. And by doing that they ironically diminished the role of mothers. Sarah Connor didn’t just birth the hero. She guided John Connor and raised him to be a hero. But the new Terminator movie does Sarah Connor a huge disservice.
@@janhavi1977 RIGHT? I don't know much about terminator, but the fact that female characters wanting to be mothers, or simply having children is seen as taking away their agency, when male characters having kids isn't seen the same way at all!
@Stinging Cake that is explained fairly easy: In Western Society your agency is pretty much gone the moment you become a mother. The Expectation to drop everything else and to just be a care-machine is very strong whilst framed as a thing that doesn‘t need any societal help, as if „motherhood“ is something that get‘s inherited with the shape of your hooha and runs on it‘s own. And yes choosing the „fate“ to be a mother seems pretty crazy in that framework. Nobody expect that from a father.
@@CisForTrans Because men are better at providing and women better domestic keepers. It's an expectation based on 60.000 years of biological efficiency. Deal with it.
@@ThatKid22101 Not really; for one thing, you are thinking of the wrong source material: the passage used to rationalize and justify her portrayal in the series is found in a letter addressed to a woman and in which she is described as an Amazon in her youth (ironically, in context), but the reference specifically addresses her attitude and participation in athletic events; at no point does Tolkien suggest or imply she was a warrior, because people mistakenly assume the term refers expressly to warrior women, rather than a mythical culture of independent, free-minded women in general who also happened to have warriors because they only allowed women in their midst to such lengths as sending away their boys in exile to their fathers, in the converse way that people mistakenly tie Viking to an entire people when it was actually a practice/profession. In other words, Tolkien said that Galadriel was wilder in her youth and desirous of free-spiritedness and what-not, and that she wore her hair high and took part in sports; he does not once say she was a brazen warrior or the like.
@@ThatKid22101 Since you're so familiar with the source material, would you mind quoting the part or parts that portray Galadriel as a warrior? Having read nearly all of his works more than once, I can't recall any such thing, but my memory isn't what it once was.
The exact moment I gave up on modern feminism: A friend of mine posted on FB about how happy it makes her to cook a fresh batch of peanut butter cookies for her man and have it ready for him for the moment he gets home from work. Because of that post a group of feminists attacked her. Male Feminsits calling her BF all the bad words and female feminsts saying she is setting women back hundreds of years. All this because of posting about how she chooses to do something nice for the man she loves. She called me crying after the 14 hours of harassment, because she knows I spent more time In those circles and asked me if she was a bad person for baking Fing cookies! That's when I gave up on modern feminism and it's gotten worse over the years.
That's honestly all I wish to do my man. I've always wanted to be a stay-at-home mom and I've felt like it was wrong to wish that. I've had to spend quite a number of years undoing a fear of men that, I'm fairly certain, was instilled on me by feminist propaganda in most media. I've never forgiven feminism for this. I'm quite happy to have stumbled across Galatea's channel. It's like breathing a sigh of relief.
@@Frutticattygirl I was raised by a single mother in a very Male oriented smaller town. I have seen the power and strength of womanhood. This modern day feminism is trying so hard to put women back into little boxes and labels that it is truely infuriating.
@@Dogapillar4Lyfe I think media plays a huge role in doing that shit and has been for quite a few decades. It's severely skewered the importance/value of both the feminine and masculine and neglects that we need both, while also not denigrating either one. If anyone has the view that masculinity is being overvalued and femininity undervalued and visa versa then, imo, media played a big role in skewering that view. Masculinity and femininity are like yin and yang, we need both and we have both inside us, to varying degree.
@@Dogapillar4Lyfe Exactly. Both genders have something different to bring to the table, because both are different and yet quite alike in some ways. We compliment each other. Instead of finding what divides us, we should find what brings us together, what we have in common.
'I'm not angry, just disappointed... that's a lie, I'm f***ing furious' is such a summary of my current mood towards most things! Also the new Galadriel looks so similar to Eowyn! A character that was so wonderfully written in the trilogy. So like in my eyes this new character will have to face up against those two character, rather than just the Galadriel.
@@theauthenticobserver I really doubt it a lot too! The only small amount of hope I have is that they kept a lot of the creative teams from the original saga!
Ironically enough, Eowyn later finds out she's not into that tough girl shit and just settles down and becomes a mother. So she's actually more of deconstruction of the tough girl persona, and I do think there is some truth to it. Dont get me wrong, some woman can absolutely be tough girls, but I think most women would be happier NOT being that, even if they think it will make them happy.
@@voxlknight2155 I think Eowyn just wanted to enjoy Middle Earth's peace and marrying Farimir. She already killed the head Nasgul, she can get all the dresses, food and flowers she wants.
She completed the tough girl mission. She looked death in the eyes and almost died. She got the scare of her life and is allowed to find a path less dangerous. Now, she could have become a mercenary if the fire of her fury wasn't satisfied, but that is not qhy she was angry and took to weapons. She did her for her country, because Rohan needed her (dispite the men not realizing it) and she wanted to do her part. She has nothing to prove to other feminists that hate women, so she did what she felt like doing and became the lady of the Ithilien (a land that needed much work and care, her hands weren't idle).
Well these are no "women" or "men" traits lol. There are in the thier nature neutral. In the nature u use all your traits to survive. Who make femininity is inferior are men btw
@@gggg-hq4td ofc not because these people stucked in the traditional genders roles ofc not bc female have always been alone and only now they realize this point. Traditional genders roles are problem
@@dromdart3563 The problem is that the modern world makes the people who like traditional gender roles (feminine women, masculine men) feel bad and ashamed because they don't fit new gender roles. A woman can be a 'girlboss', a man can be a 'femboy' but at the same time men can be competitive and women can be gentle.
This actually made me emotional. There’s something so special about femininity and I’m only now learning this for myself because my teenage years were spent with me shunning all things feminine. So this was refreshing and was something I needed to hear so thank you for this valuable video ❤️
More women need to stand up against the misogynistic Queen Bees and Mean Girls of feminism who are threatened by feminine women, mostly because they are terrible at being women themselves.
Vulnerability is what allows us to connect with others on a deeply human level. Without vulnerability we could never share what makes us relate to someone else's pain and help them see that they aren't alone, or provide actual support and comfort. It is an essential part of our being from the moment we're born until the moment we die, just as essential as love and rationality and logic. Without vulnerability, you cut yourself off from a piece of human nature. It hinders your growth as a person and your ability to form social connections as a whole. You can't have real friends, you can't feel close with your family, and you certainly can't find a romantic partner to spend your life with. In my opinion, when people refuse to let themselves be vulnerable, it's essentially like cutting off a limb or blinding oneself. A self-inflicted handicap brought on by trauma both big and small. If you can never open yourself back up, you'll never be able to truly experience what it means to live and be happy.
Sad how Feminism fell from Grace, partially validly so, partially not valid. Just sayin': Some of the most educated, warm People on the Internet, like Emma Thorne, Pop Culture Detective and Hbomberguy consider themselves Feminists.
This is why I really like Mel Medarda in Arcane. She doesn't have a single fight scene at all. She's got a highly feminine figure and style. And yet she's extremely powerful and confident--cause she's a freaking scheming politician. Could she take anyone in a fight? No. But she's the type who wouldn't need to because she'd probably charm and sweet talk herself out of any fight that came her way. It made me happy to see such a feminine character being prominently featured in such a new show. Glad at least SOME writers are representing strong AND feminine women. I agree with just about everything in your video except your dig at Snow White. Sleeping Beauty, sure. She is absolutely whiny and weak. It's kinda the point of the story, admittedly, because the main theme is supposed to be about what happens when you overprotect your kids. They grow up brittle and weak and easily destroyed by just a prick of a finger. So yeah, I get why they made her that way, but I don't hafta like her character. But Snow White is VERY different. I am convinced people only dislike her because of her Betty Boop style voice. She was only fourteen in the movie. Lemme say that again: FOURTEEN. She escapes an assassination attempt by her own step mother, is forced to flee into unfamiliar wilderness without anyone to help her, she strikes up a mutually beneficial deal with the locals in order to survive, and does all of that while overcoming her fear and sadness after such a big traumatic event in her life. I mean, just imagine how scared and sad YOU would be if your mother figure intentionally tried to kill you. At FOURTEEN. Get real. Weak? Please. She's far from it.
Perhaps, it's because Disney Princesses are based on pre-feminist fairy tales, adapted by a non-feminist man in the '30s-50s. Feminist material requires feminist writers, such as Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Ursula K. Le Guin, Charlotte Perkins Gillman, etc.
@@darlalathan6143 I'll have to disagree with you there. I'm of the opinion that good quality female characters can be written by anybody, not just feminists.
there is so much of hate towards femininity. i dont know if this trend will go away cause its being going on for years, this trend that always makes feminine women all masculine just to say girl power will never go. im glad more people are speaking about this.
@@SaneAsylum wait a minute. The trans movement is nothing but a detriment to my generation. Read Helena Kerschner's story that J. K. Rowling posted. It's not unique. It's the scourge of my whole childhood. It's tragic how many girls come into it because of misunderstandings of femininity and masculinity compounded by a complete lack of pushback or understanding of why they come to their conclusions.
@@lunalee3021 What I meant was that because of the issue, women will better learn to value what is uniquely theirs and learn to stop comparing themselves to men in physical ways (because transvestite athletes have a unfair advantage biologically in many things uniquely suited to male testosterone driven physiology). So right or wrong (I think transvestites taking up women's spaces is wrong. They should either have their own or be content with what nature blessed them with), the feminist movement will be forced to redefine itself because of this (bad) thing. I was in no way saying that the transvestite movement into women's spaces was a good thing. But as the species are so often found to be doing, I believe that women will make the proverbial lemonade from it nonetheless.
I LOVE THIS. Let us celebrate femininity just as much as roughness and boyishness. Both are valid and good. My only nitpick is the implied exclusivity of a nurturing personality in women only. I want to also celebrate the incredibly nurturing, loving men in my life, who are also invested in the beauty of life and its need of care and love and gentleness. We shouldn't gatekeep these traits away from them to put firmly into the basket of femininity.
I actually see no issue in associating nurturing with femininity. It's no worse than associating physical strength, emotional fortitude, and guardianship with masculinity. Men can have feminine traits, women can have masculine traits, it might follow broad trends based on sex but it's not a bright line rule.
Men can have feminine traits, such as nurturing. It's when men deny their femininity and try to suppress it that it becomes an issue. All men and women need to balance their masc/fem energies and not suppress them, it can lead to toxicity otherwise. Just like there is toxic masculinity there is also toxic femininity (manipulation, coercion, etc)
Calling it feminine doesn't mean it is only found in women. Men have feminine traits too. Feminine and masculine traits exist on a spectrum in all of us.
Your definition of "nurturing man" instant brings The Doctor from Doctor Who to mind. For fifty nine years, he was the "same" traveling alien in love with the universe. But guess what, they made him a woman now and use it as an excuse for it being their most nurturing and caring incarnation.
Dear god, can we just collectively agree that any sort of prescriptive ideology about gender (particularly when pushed by some mega-corporation's marketing team) can die in a fire?
Hundreds of thousands of career feminists just shrieked in horror and agony with your comment. How are those freeloaders supposed to make a living now without mooching off of all society's institutions while spreading and normalizing misandry and widening the gap and distrust between men and women?
As a man, I try to take my cues from Christ, and he wasn’t afraid to express vulnerability. Like if literal God isn’t afraid to cry when appropriate, then neither should I.
I always liked that about him; all the drama in NT is literally because he just walks around talking to *everyone* and *anyone* and not giving a fuck when people get offended by him just talking. Never picks a fight, just let's everyone make an ass of their own insecurities
Thank you for posting this. So many folks never think or even consider the deeper and inspirational parts of our faith, especially regarding stuff like you just pointed out.
@@killgriffinnow First off, I get the sentiment. I don't trust any church in particular. But I do think people both within and without the religion sell these stories short. It's exactly because they're ambiguous that i find them interesting. Here's my take on the pig incident. "Legion" killed the pigs. Key context, the demon was in a person, Jesus told them to GTFO, the demon said "I know you're the son of God, if you make me leave I'll go kill those pigs over there," and Jesus was like "if you must that's your business, just leave this person." And the demon did exactly that and used the pigs as its punching bags because it was pissed that Jesus showed up. The story is real ambiguous about how good or bad any of this was. In the story they include how this bit Jesus in the ass because the pigs incident (to the Jews) proved that his talk about spirits was real, but they saw the demon's (bregudging) obedience as Jesus himself being a king demon. Now if Jesus had said "leave the person AND the pigs alone" and the demon had agreed, no one would've heard about the story. Another thing is pigs in Jewish culture are a banned animal which added an element of Jesus' authority being ungodly. It's not explained why Jesus doesn't argue for the pigs as well, if he just doesn't like pigs or if his authority is very limited, or simply if he's trying to make sure that the demon (who's still very in control of the victim he's trying to save) doesn't suddenly smash themselves into a rock if he says the wrong thing. It's not clear. As for blame, as the story goes it's on the demon and Jesus was a hostage negotiator who had to pick his priorities carefully and chose to save the person above all else. Curious to know about the hand washing thing and the fig tree, don't recall those off the top of my head. If your referring to where he mentions "if a fig tree bears no fruit, cut it down" that's a farming metaphor. The fig farmers that he was speaking to IRL didn't have much philosophy vocabulary, so he drew a simple parallel between what it takes to set your life in order as being the same logic they use every day to keep their fig trees in order. Sick trees (habits) get cut down to make room for healthy trees (habits) so that the whole field (body) doesn't get abandoned by the farmer for being too sickly. He's saying if you understand the concept of pruning, you have what you need to one day rid yourself of addiction, debt, adultery, and hypocrisy.
Honestly, throughout the whole video I thought of Sophie from the “Haul’s Moving Castle” and Maria from “Little White Horse” (both of them from the books and adaptations) that taught little me that wielding a cool sword and not wearing pretty dresses are not really necessary to have amazing adventures and being able to influence the world around me. It didn’t really stop me from hating myself in teenage years, but softened the blow a lot, letting me be content in a fantasy that it’ll be over in some time and I’ll be okay just like them. And yes, being able to stop someone with one look is WAY cooler than the sword, what’s wrong with them.
I love both of those books, and Sophie is one of my favourite characters of all time. So down to earth, no-nonsense and brave, and totally feminine and caring at the same time. Opposite of a pushover. She has an iron backbone and I love her
Galadriel of the novel is a fantastic character. Kind, feminine, elegant and selfless. She knew that Lothlorien would fade when the One Ring was destroyed and still let Frodo go on his journey anyway, literally giving up that kingdom for Middle-Earth. Her kindness to Gimli is amazing and Cate Blanchett was perfect for her, beautiful and graceful.
Absolutely hit the nail on the head here. Apparently Hollywood's idea of equality is making the female characters as bland and one-dimensional as the male ones.
@@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman It's just not what women are asking for. This is where the miscommunication is coming from. Women are not trying to be seen as the same as men, we're asking to be equally valued for our differences. A pound of oranges is not the same as a pound of apples. But they are both equally pound. 2+2+2 = 3+3. Things can be different but equal. EDIT: or I should say femininity and masculinity. Women can receive more respect if they act masculine, the point is that femininity should be seen as equally valuable to masculinity.
As a teenage girl, this video felt like receiving a firm but affectionate lecture from an aunt or similar figure 😅 thank you for being so supportive of us young ladies and our femininity ❤️
17:35 I honestly hadn’t even contemplated this aspect of growing up for girls…. How terrifying to suddenly realize you are a lamb surrounded by wolves. You go from looking at adults as protectors, to noticing they are wanting to take you for themselves. As a guy, it’s like the complete opposite. If older women were suddenly checking you out you would be over the moon! I’m so glad you brought that up. I’m glad I learned something today.
It’s also important to remember that this realization often comes at around 11-14 yrs old. I was only 12 the first time I got catcalled. I know a few women like catcalls, but to me all I feel is complete fear and danger. Before I had even gotten to high school I was already afraid of strange men
Listening to this part made me recall this exact moment in my life. I was 14 years old walking with my parents and a man looked me up and down with such a strange look (now I know it was full of lust), that I have never seen before. It scared me terribly and I wanted to hide u see the rock.
Yeah, when I was around 14-15 there was this middle aged dude coming up to me on the bus and starting to tell me how pretty I was... It was scary as hell, and I ended up getting off that bus at the first opportunity.
It's more terrifying to be thought of as a wolf. If you consider me a threat, it makes you want to eliminate me as one - no wonder that the majority of women are such raging misandrists if that's how they think.
I feel like the whole problem is that everything 'typically' female has never been truly valued in society. At least, that has been my experience from a very young age. I have seen female interests like make-up, dressing up etc. being mocked. I learned that being emotional, caring, and sensitive is seen as weak. Motherhood and being a housewife are ridiculed. Making out a man for a woman is an insult. Buttt, I finally notice a re-found appreciation for the strength and power of femininity. That also helps me in finding value in being a woman. So, happy days.
That's is true. I wonder when did we women started to think that a man being ridiculed for being woman-like was an insult to US personally. I mean, men and women are SO DIFFERENT it's just obvious that one that looks and behaves like the other would be called out. That doesn't mean in the slightest that the other is worst. I also grew up thinking that being female or feminine was a disgrace. That being boy-like was the way to go. And how much suffering did it bring!
There are forces at play that want to tear down and deconstruct everything that is traditional and natural, especially the family and everything that contributes to its creation and upkeep, because they think they can recreate a new, better human and society. It isn't that society would not have valued femininity, it is that you didn't listen to the people who did. They get labeled and dismissed as Right Wingers and Misogynists and whatever other slur and buzzword the Feminists and their Communist overlords throw at them. When I say you didn't listen, I don't mean that as a personal attack on you, but you were born into a world where all the indoctrination and all the propaganda goes into that direction and we all have been trained to see as evil and outdated what is actually natural and healthy. The following will look like a huge non sequitur, but it is on topic: I don't like Weeaboos. Those Manga and Anime fans annoy the shit out of me and I strongly dislike the tropes of that art form. In an attempt to understand "my enemy" I looked into it and what I found was young, sad men who watch this stuff predominately for one thing: the "waifus" and the anime girls with cat ears and all that shit. And no, it isn't really about cartoon porn. What they are into is the schmaltzy cuteness and the squealing and the high pitched voices and all that. They crave femininity and they watch that stuff because they can't get it anywhere else. It is like methadone to a heroin addict. The point being, it isn't men who disrespect or demonize femininity. Men just get blamed for everything.
@@2xXaylaXx2 I didn't say you did. It is the go-to in general though. But let's dissect this a little. What or whom did you mean when you said that "society" never valued feminine traits?
@@TrangleC the men and women that make up society. And btw, what do you consider a natural and traditional role for a women? I'd prefer a society where anyone with either gender can take on a role that best fits their own needs, whatever that may be, instead of having to fit in some role that is culturally forced upon them.
I've been trying to articulate this point so many times to people. The whole "Girls are just as good at as boys and can be even better at it" mindset actually devalues the truly amazing accomplishments of most women throughout history and places all the value on things that men do tend to be better at. Men, in general, are better at fighting than women, and it has value- but it is not the most valuable attribute that a person can have. It is not more valuable than compassion, or healing, or hospitality... but here is our society trying to turnt he world upside down
I will also say this in defense of Snow White. She was a 16 year old girl who spent her youth working. She had never been into the forest until she was taken there TO BE MURDERED! What saved her was the Huntsman seeing the true, pure, goodness and femininity in her and setting her free, which cost him his life. So her crying and sobbing at how terrified she was... pretty understandable! She found the Dwarfs and won their loyalty and love not just by being beautiful, but by caring for them and also COMMANDING them! They couldn't eat until they washed up. She worked hard and ruled the home. When she was poisoned the Dwarfs attacked the Queen who was far more powerful than them because that was how powerful their love for Snow White was. She has gotten a bad reputation but honestly I would not call her weak at all. After all that happened to her she retained her goodness. Naive? Yes, but she is still a teenager...
Yesterday i was watching a Star Trek video of all things about the new series and they were talking about the recasting of Nurse Chapel from the original series. And one of them said they doubted she would "just be a nurse" in the new series because that would make her just the assistant to the male doctor. I was flabbergasted. Nursing is such a bigger job than doctor's assistant. But because it's seen as a caring and nurturing "feminine" role people have been taught to assume it to be lesser than that of the doctor. Nurses are the backbone of the medical professions. They conduct medical tests, they do health assessments, they go out with paramedics to accident scenes where there are a lot of casualties, they treat injuries and do diagnostics, but all we get taught they do on television is assisting doctors and changing beds like it's still 1890... The idea that it should be seen as lesser for a woman to be a nurse than a doctor is sheer ignorance. But, again, it ties into this idea that femininity is lesser...
This! I work in a warehouse for a living. The men are better suited for the heavy lifting while my work ethic and attention to certain details makes me able to do things the men easily overlook. If i have issues i ask the men to help out, i cant always be wonder woman or Superwoman because if i did, I'd get hurt far more often physically, so i have to learn to use what I already have on hand.
The history you speak about includes women who fought in wars disguised as men and did, indeed, do as good a job, or better, than the men. When anyone makes a generalization the this gender is better at such and such than the other other gender, you will be proven wrong. No matter what you choose, there will be incidences that prove you wrong.
"The lack of them taking charge of anything in their lives." Saying that while referring to Snow White is kinda silly. She was just run off from her home, barely saved from murder, and thrust into a dangerous world to fend for herself. Her fear in the forest is completely justified, and it makes complete sense that she would exaggerate the danger around her (i.e. imagining scary faces in the trees), and that that would be overwhelming, especially since she is so vulnerable. But what happens next? She notices something weaker than herself, and takes on a nurturing role right away. She brushes herself off, and gets to work doing what she knows. She brings order to the Dwarves' household, and encourages an industrious and generous attitude in the wild animals, which in the end leads to her eventual rescue from her evil stepmother, because of the wonderful relationships she nurtured. Disney's Snow White is an excellent example of feminine strength.
Very well said. Reminded me of something I was just talking to my brother about,why I like a lot of women in the jojo's bizarre adventure series. Araki doesn't just write strong female characters. He writes strong *feminine* characters. Folks often look back at classical depictions of femininity and act like it is weak and oppressive, but that's quite reductionist. You hit the nail on the head as to why. To maintain a graceful and nurturing spirit, to draw out the gentleness and potentially in a rough world or people, to face to face off against nature and the troubles of life with hope and dignity, that IS strength. Not demonstrated in a traditionally masculine way perhaps, but strength nonetheless.
and it makes even more sense that she’s terribly scared cause while all of that shit is going on she is literally a child, she’s only 14 years old in the story
@Just a Fairy-Story I’d really recommend you watch moderngurlz video “how old are the characters in Snow White?” Tldr - the ages of the characters in Snow White are fabricated and official documents from disneys production have them much closer in age. The “Snow White is 14 and her prince is 31!” thing is basically an internet urban legend that someone invented out of basically thin air.
I'm Eastern Orthodox and St. Hilda of Whitby, a key figure in early Christianity in Britain, is still remembered by us. I know you're very staunchly British, so if you want a few examples of strength without sacrificing femininity you should look at a few of the old Christian saints to come from the Isles. Abbesses and princesses and many more were known across the Christian world for their wisdom, piety and generosity. Makes for a good rabbit hole to keep you up until 3 AM, and it's good for the soul!
@@theauthenticobserver No worries! And one more comment, especially since how closely it ties into the video: Sorry for the wall of text, but I just want you to know that cliche old-fashioned conservative views on women are actually pretty new. From a Christian perspective, which ties into European women in history versus other parts of the world, you wouldn't believe the amount of respect and reverence we give to the Virgin Mary, and a lot of it ties into her feminine traits. We hold her up to be the greatest creation, the pinnacle of mankind (humankind?) for the love, warmth, kindness and goodness she displayed, as well as being the only human ever to not sin. I've only got one icon in my house, and it's of her holding baby Jesus. And towards the end of her life, it ties into the end of your video - the queen-like authority she commanded was never cold, and held in esteem by the Apostles. Jesus told her that they were now her sons, and told them that she was now their mother. John in particular was entrusted with her well-being after the Crucifixion. Last point, and apologies again for the long comment: up until the Industrial Revolution, women were just as involved in the community as men were. They worked on farms, helped in trades, managed households, reared children, etc. Women at home being docile is a largely Victorian thing, a result of women staying at home while men went off to the new-fangled factory jobs. Historically they might have been second in command to husbands as far as the final word went, but they never house slaves. A lot of saints were just ordinary men and women, so reading their life stories preserved across 2000 years has a way of putting things into perspective. P.S. It's Lent so I have to be extra preachy, I'm sorry once again. Great video as always, by the way!
Women saints are amazing! I'm Anglican now but grew up evangelical. I think that evangelical Christians really miss out on the beauty of understanding and following the saints. Personally I think that one of the reasons they tend to be misogynistic is because they don't have a process of honoring saints, particularly female saints, and don't see the unique ways God has used women throughout the centuries. Believing in and living in the communion of the saints has been very beneficial for me. Some of my favorite saints are The Blessed Virgin, St. Perpetua and Felicity, and St. Hildegard von Bingen. Perpetua and Felicity are especially inspiring to me since they were friends in prison, with one being a noblewoman and the other a slave, and both were recent mothers, with Felicity giving birth days before her martyrdom. Perpetua also has some of the earliest writing that can be accredited to a woman. She kept a diary detailing the events and the visions from God she had.
Hi! I'm Catholic and I agree with all your points! strength to endure suffering isn't considered weak for us but a sign of strength. To hold back despite having power to retaliate is a virtue we hold dear especially when seen in male saints and Jesus. To turn the other cheek when slapped (personal offense) but also to defend the weak when they cannot defend themselves, to learn when to fight and when to accept pain. I love Joan of Arc, a simple country girl with no fighting experience tasked to command armies of men and I also love young St. Maria Goretti, who had so much love that she even prayed for the man who tried to rape her and kill her, so that his soul may be saved and asked her mother to forgive him too. Both are strong women to me because they always did everything with such love for God and neighbor, in whatever form that takes.
Some of those also fought Attila the Hun, defended their convent from peasant revolts and beat male knights, while competing in drag in jousting tournaments, then flashed them, to show that a woman beat them.
Best defense of Galadriel’s book character I’ve seen. Don’t take a divine being and besmirch her with the grime and grit of war. Really beautiful video, thank you
@@darlalathan6143 Has nothing to do with Galadriel. Valkeries are still Valkeries. Galadriel is a devine feminine being that will destroy a whole army with grace. Disgraceful to compare her any where close to a Valkerie.
@@darlalathan6143 ua-cam.com/video/HZ7wB4rm5Hw/v-deo.html In fact this ia one of the scenes that I have watched the most hands down from the LoT trilogy. It shows Galadriel flex her power from the influence of the ring for a brief couple of seconds. It was terrifying but at the same time she was beautiful af. She flexed this power without an ounce of masculinity. In fact not one muscle bound man, or wizard with a long grey beard would come near her because she would wreck them. Women can be strong with their feminine.
I agree with almost everything you stated, but.. I would wonder if you would look again at the old classic Disney princesses of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty again, through a realistic, day to day, lens. They are the young versions of Arwen and Galadriel. When I was young I related more to the Disney renaissance princesses more. With the exception of Belle, they were unsure who or what they were and wanted to be. They were still figuring things out... like me. But as I did figure these things out and grew older and more confident I came to appreciate and relate to Cinderella, Aurora, and Snow White more. All three of these so called "weak and passive" princesses have already figured out who they were. Snow White is NOT a victim, she runs, she cries, then she picks herself up, literally says she shouldn't complain, and gets on with it. She's not waiting for the prince to come and save her as she doesn't need to be saved from the Dwarfs. She has faith one day her prince will find her and she'll know love. She wants to be found not saved, there is a difference... but in the mean time she'll work for her living. She also changes the men around her. Grumpy goes from wanting nothing to do with her to leading the others to her rescue and then actively sobbing at her "death". Cinderella is victimized but does not give in to victimhood. She puts up with the toxic and cruel behavior of those around her, her own family, but never becomes bitter or cruel herself. That is a strength little acknowledged today. Marcus Aurelius said "the best revenge on someone is refusing to be like them". Cinderella embodies this. If she never had a ball or a prince it would not make her any less worthy of those things. Aurora. Aurora is my hero. She is raised as a sheltered peasant girl, falls in love with a man, is so excited. This is all she ever wanted (how many of us want simply to be happy with little or no expectations)... And then BOOM! She is a princess with duties. For her people and country she leaves everything behind. The man she loves, the life she's know, the future she dreamed of. For what? to wear a crown, marry a stranger, and take on the responsibility of not one, but two, kingdoms. She does it. and realistically does it, not cold heartedly as modern feminists say a woman should, but as a real woman would do it; With a broken heart. She's given a minute to compose herself before is presented to her people and at her lowest and most vulnerable Maleficent, another woman who knows what she's doing, strikes. Maleficent knows this is the time to manipulate her into doing what she wants. I have seen so many young girls fall into this trap. They are struggling with what they want to do and with what they know they must do and a villain will use that to seduce them onto another path that leads to destruction. Yes, Aurora is saved by true loves kiss, but it is not because she was just waiting around she was just preparing to be the next ruler of her nation. Through no fault of her own she is the inspiration of everything that happens around her. The steady and peaceful eye of the hurricane of events taking place around her. Kind of like a certain elven queen. If they wanted a back story about Galadriel's youth they should have taken these three as an example. You said it the best, "don't throw the princesses in with the queens", because they aren't queens, yet. Take any Disney princess from the modern era, again with the possible exception of Belle, that would become a Galadriel. I can only see the classic princesses ever developing into that kind of woman. Sorry about the lengthy rant, but these characters are my darlings, along with Tolkien's women. Many people dismiss their femininity because they claim it is to passive. When the good people around you aspire to be better for knowing you, that is not passiveness, that is power.
Thank you for this, I hate when people dismiss the OG Disney princesses. I personally love and find inspiring how Snow White and Cinderella remain kind and persevere, when the easy thing to do would be to become nasty people.
Mrs. Midwest has an amazing video on her channel about the Disney Princesses titled “How to Have Disney Princess Energy.” It’s my favorite video ever! Maybe you’d enjoy it?
See, Susan, this here is what YT comments are at its best. And by using one wrong word it could have been shadowbanned or deleted, in the name of what? Thank you Parable Films, that was an insightful piece.
I don't remember how I found this video, but I'm really, really glad I did. I'm a teenage girl, on the upper end, and it's very true being a teenage girl nowadays is incredibly difficult. I can painfully relate to feeling weak or looked down upon or pathetic on the rare occasion I feel brave enough to express liking more feminine things... which I have found myself liking recently as I've gotten older (and grown out of my tomboyish phase I've had since I was a little girl). An example: I feel like people are judging me when I wear more feminine clothing, like dresses or skirts, or when I say I don't care all that much about a career - I would be 100% content with being a mother and having a loving husband (and maybe doing some writing on the side - would never want to give that up). It really is degrading to hear in the media constantly that women should have jobs, should be more masculine, should support all women (and if you don't support trans women you're a bigot), and if you don't you're not being a good enough woman, you're not being a modern woman, you're old fashioned and not up with the times - you're not "modern" enough and just - just - It's *so* frustrating. But really, thank you for writing and making this video. It truly did give me some confidence that wanting to be more feminine is ok, and it isn't old fashioned or unreasonable or stifling to want to be like that. Knowing that someone else has felt uncomfortable in her own skin yet still wanted to be a woman is truly inspiring, and really does give me hope - as cheesy as that might sound. Thank you
Here actually: if you are a jerk to trans women because they are trans (or being like they are not women ect) you are a bigot. If you don’t actively support trans women I mean… welcome to the majority. I mean you should, trans women- especially black and indigenous trans women are some of the most vulnerable people out there. People are really freaking terrible to them it’s scary to be a trans person much less a POC trans WOMAN rn. Also being trans while going through puberty- it is not a nice time. It takes normal puberty for cis non intersex folks and makes it 10 x worse. It’s awful, and absolutely traumatizing.
@@pheonixdoesviolin4364 If they're real trans women and girls, yes. I believe everyone has a right to happiness, and if being happy and comfortable for them is to pursue being transgender, that's totally fine; I see no problem in that. However, I would like to inquire why you wrote a massive paragraph on my comment (as a reply) and then deleted it?
The big companies especially push for the narrative that a stay-at-home woman is an "oppressed individual with internalized misogyny", because you cannot capitalize over a non-working individual: you don't produce, you don't help them make more money, a woman who freely decides not to invest in a career is an enemy to the market. Feminism is a useful tool for the capitalistic system.
Also, I’m a teacher and thank you so much for mentioning “the kids are not ok” it’s not. It’s only becoming more of a mess because adults are bringing their adult problems to kids
When I was in highschool, I tried to embody that tough, action-hero type, take-no-shit kind of female persona, but now that I've grown and matured, I've really started to see the power and the value of femininity and I've tried to embody it more. It's disgraceful how "traditional" femininity is viewed in the culture and so mistreated.
Another strong feminine example would be Julie Andrews. I know you brought up The Sound of Music but she also played Eliza Doolittle, Mary Poppins and the Queen in The Princess Diaries off the top of my head. I’ll try to think of other real life examples but Julie is a big one.
@@elentiyaashryver702 My Fair Lady was actually a Broadway play before being turned into the movie, and in the Broadway version, Julie Andrews played Eliza Doolittle alongside Rex Harrison. But Audrey Hepburn was chosen for the movie because Julie Andrews wasn't considered an established actress. Fun fact, she got cast as Mary Poppins instead, and won an Oscar for Best Actress!
"If you can grow, and sustain life, and care for things, that is magic. It is valuable and important." It interests me you bring this up in a video stemming from the (mis)treatment of Tolkien's work, as this is a sentiment present throughout Lord of the Rings as favorable and good, not just of women, but in general. Everything and everyone depicted as the higher representations of good in Middle Earth stem from growing and sustaining life, and caring for things. The notion of these as naturally feminine traits are reflected as powerful aspects in men in Lord of the Rings. The reason Gandalf becomes the White, highest of the order, is because he never strayed from his purpose which was centered on caring for others. Mercy over judgement in regards to Gollum, from Bilbo's actions, reinforced by Gandalf, to Fordo's actions is born of compassion for others. A trait that indicates Aragorn is fit to be king is that he has hands of healing - that would be skill to nurture life rather than his skill to take it in battle. And then, of course, we have Faramir's statement: "Your land must be a realm of peace and content, and there must gardeners be in high honour." I'd even arguably extend this to Tom Bombadil and the Ents as they are still caretakers of life in the forests. These are all things Tolkien drew from and included that stem from the caring of things and nurturing life as being of value and strength. If one accepts these traits as inherently feminine, one could argue that Tolkien portrayed them as positive elements of strength, even when shown by men. If an "inherently feminine" aspect is a sign of strength in men within a work, why would it need be downplayed or removed from depictions of women, particularly in the same setting?
Didn't Gandalf basically follow the goddess of the home, simple life, everyday joys and so forth? Basically the reason he brought the Hobbits with him, the physical representation of the everyday homebody.
@@jailenecornejo Tolkien appreciated nature, so in that regard, yes. Though Gandalf was essentially an angel equivalent to Middle-Earth's God equivalent what with Tolkien being a devout Catholic and all.
I feel like because femininity is more subtle and emotional, mental, and abstract (re: not physical), it is more difficult to understand and portray by a greater number of people. I mean, sure there is feminine beauty, but the feminine stereotypes are all about how women are more sensitive, they have a greater understanding of emotions, they are smarter, they are more manipulative, they speak with more social nuances, etc. etc. (yes, broad brush strokes of stereotypes here), so a larger amount of femininity is slower-boiling and not immediately observable like the classic stereotypes of masculinity are. Aggressiveness, willingness to action, or even objectivity, straightforwardness - all what are more stereotypically masculine - have immediate consequences and effects. This is both easier to portray in stories and also easier to understand. That's why "strong" often defaults to the masculine tendencies, while feminine strength is misunderstood, dismissed or ignored. It's harder to explain the benefits of being feminine strength when you can see the male hero punch the bad guy in the face and solve the conflict in the space of one movie. (putting my thoughts down before I finish the video. Thank you for the video - this is a topic that's much needed elaboration!)
Yeah. The gentle/subtle actually requires patience most importantly, a willingness to masquerade and other essential training traits found in masculine stories like growth, resilience and determination. People want to be served NOW so more subtle traits are seen as pathetic. Why wait? Why be patient? Why allow others the embarass you and take the subtle/passive ground? Reminds me of the way Cinderella is viewed Editing because I didn't see the "women are smarter" part and I disagree with that. What makes women smarter than men?
On the What is Femininity section, there's always been something that annoyed me. It's true that a lot of people will say "kind" or "gentle" in response to "what is femininity" but the way they say it is always as though it's a weakness. The same goes for words like "soft," "vulnerable," or "submissive." There's a lot I'd like to say about some of these terms, but on being kind... Do people realize how hard it is to be genuinely kind and nice? I think some are, now, considering how many hypocritically nice people there are, displayed on social media for all to see. Being genuinely nice requires a lot of patience, hope, and perseverance to keep bouncing back when people take advantage of your niceness; empathy and intelligence to know how and who to be help; and because people will always view you as a doormat, it also requires strength to stand up to bad apples. It's hard as hell being nice, but people just view it as running away and avoiding conflict.
@@terracannon876 Exactly! IT TAKES MUCH INNER STRENGTH and GROUNDNESS TO ENDURE THAT and to work on things you know are valuable to you! It takes Internal strength and validation not external strength and validation. And this is why the Archetype of Strength in Tarot of a woman holding the mouth of a Lion is amazing to me.
@Inland Empire The GMVH says exactly what I was talking about. In the normal distribution of male and female intelligences, men have a greater standard deviation. However, the mean is higher for women. In this comment, I was talking about broad stroke stereotypes, i.e. averages or means. As an aside, oftentimes "stereotype" or "generalization" is just another word for "the average of a normal distribution with long standard deviations," which is why we all have impressions of one observation but talk to 100 ppl and we can't find an exact example of that observation. Makes talking about these generalizations of men and women difficult. As for the social nuances, whether they speak with social virtues or not is besides the point. A common example of the manifestation of the social nuances stereotype is, men get straight to the point and say what they mean. If they don't like it, they'll say it. Women will say one thing but in fact mean another because they expect the man to be able to follow the train of thought or to understand the leap in logic, like other women would. The fact that women trend towards "NPC talking points" in the first place could perhaps be seen as a sign that they're misapplying this natural inclination towards social cues (possibly also because, among other stereotypes, women are more susceptible to social pressures and tend more to agreeing with the mob).
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” - J.R.R. Tolkien I would like to add about the quality of "Queen" that you talk about. After a bit of thinking I came to the conclusion that you might not realize it but from my point of view you have it.
Yes. ONE THOUSAND TIMES YES. Enough with the superficial portrayal of women as “boss bi*ches”. Good God. I’m so over it. There are so many wonderful, deep, and inspiring feminine archetypes. Of which Lady Galadriel is certainly one. The way that she is absolutely wrecked in the new LotR series…the audacity and level of disrespect!!!! I hope the new LotR series absolutely bombs. The people behind that show are in it for the cash grab and personal glory. Disgusting. Also, to echo one of your first points, a woman does not need to be more like a man in order to be valuable. This kind of thinking is exactly what woman haters use against us. This is the idea that bred the phrase, “and what do women bring to the table?”. Femininity is not your weakness, ladies. It is your strength!
Actually it's the well-established and popular cultural idea that you cannot value women without devaluing, degrading, denigrating and dehumanizing men (and boys). Established, put into practice and normalized by misandric feminists. A woman DOES need to be a man because men are erased, reduced to humble, sycophantic background servants to message women's egos or monsters to hate and fear. (I'm not even going into the discussion of the complete normalization and public celebration of female-on-male violence, aggression, brutal treatment, sexual harassment, torture, mutilation, rape and murder - justified or viewed as good entertainment just so long as the target of violence is MALE). The result? what do women bring to the table? galactic scale entitlement, carefully constructed narcissism and an ego the size of the observable universe. That's right, I have criticism of women's behavior and attitude and how it's manufactured by a synthetic culture, or in your words, I'm a "women hater".
@@kdog3334 Because they are. You can be a masculine woman, but you have inherent femininity. Just as men can be feminine, but have inherent masculinity. Deal with it.
Thank you for this video. I have a 12 year old daughter who started puberty early is struggling with her identity. This has been great help and has given me some insight to what she going through, and how to help her as a father.
We need more female characters in literature and media who can literally make demons and armies cower solely because of the power of her grace, goodness and divinity. Instead we have bland female protagonists with no real flaws, who swing swords on battlefields like pros after just a few days training, whine about how they’re being oppressed by the patriarchy and then fall in love with the toxic men whose sole purpose in life is to tell the girl how GREAT and WONDERFUL she is and how no one on earth deserves her greatness🙄😤 YA has turned into total trash
It's why I love Kaguya Otsutsuki, she looks to be the very definition of a princess and a goddess, but she's immensely powerful, unfortunately she's mentally unstable
I'd like to point out some cliche anime or at least the fantasy where the when are feminine and yet strong or when they show a goddess they shine and people cant help but bow or stop fighting
Moana did a good job of subverting this new trend, I thought. The entire build up to the climax made you think either she and/or Maui was going to fight Te Ka, and at the last moment it was an act of love and kindness that won. It was a rare example of portraying a female character differently than her male counterpart.
@@mayacollins3447 Merida's mother walks through a room full of brawling Scottish warriors, and EVERYONE simmers down when they see her approach. Even the king doesn't have that kind of authority. It was AMAZING.
When I was a teenage girl I totally felt like this. I had no guidance and no idea what to do with myself and had all of these messages front left, right and centre, telling me that femininity was a negative, while being leered at by men who made me feel uncomfortable, and that being masculine was good; so I naturally became very masculine. I would reject femininity at all costs because to be thought of "as a girl/girly" was so shameful, and so embarrasing, so much so that I was genuinely scared of it. This is not normal, but so many girls have the same experiences as I did. I even see it in my younger sister, who is 21 now, and it makes me sad because she is so obviously insecure in her femininity. She confided in me once that she was jealous of my femininity, a femininity that I didn't even know I had or acknowledged, and that helped to put things into perspective for me.
"while being leered at by men who made me feel uncomfortable" Correction: leered at by men you find unattractive. Women don't care about "leering" when it's done by men they are attracted to. Please stop being misleading.
@@rodericblack4657 Well yeah, why would I want to be leered at by men I find unattractive? That's basic human instinct. I also didn't want to be leered at by men in general at age 11; which was the age when it first happened since I started puberty at 8.
@@rodericblack4657 It doesn't matter who was leering at her. It was still wrong. She was being objectified and reduced to a sexual object. Don't just belittle what she says. These things have more a negative effect on women than you think.
@@eliesh3833 Except it's not wrong unless the one doing the leering is unattractive. She just admitted that herself. Women should stop saying they don't like it when men do x when what they really mean is they don't like it when ugly men do x. Also, there's nothing wrong with objectifying people. We all do it, every day, in all sorts of contexts. You need to stop taking feminist and feminist-influenced types at their word. They never mean what they say.
@@rodericblack4657 Look buddy, I get what your saying but you really don't need to bring red-pill type stuff in here. This is the wrong comment section for it. Before you lash out at me, know that I do enjoy that type of content for educational purposes. It seems like you're overdosing on it a bit, coming off as bitter and resentful towards women. Coming out of nowhere with a critique that's not relevant to this discussion or or even exclusive to women makes you seem unreasonably angry. Just chill out a bit and be happy that women are making progress sorting themselves out.
But what if someone falls of your enchant? Maybe because suddenly you're not pretty enough? Maybe because you couldn't restrain your unlady-like rage or emotions. Women are biased and stereotyped all the time, it's a full time job for us to find a archetype so we can "fit in" and do something for society, because unlike men we have the false belief that we are limited.
Yeah, ascribing a gender/sex/whatever you want to call it to any personality trait, or quality, or temperament, is incredibly closed- minded. All it does is reinforce negative stereotypes.
@@brxzbze it’s actually more closed minded to not recognize it, and pretend that there’s no difference. Vaush tards couldn’t understand that though - in fact. I’m sure a lot of Vaush tards are still trying to figure out what a women is. Because they’ve never been with one.
One thing I keep seeing in stories where the meek, non-action male hero gets a badass, assertive, ass-kicking girlfriend - she's usually violent towards him. This is done either for laughs, to show how weak the hero is, or for...female empowerment, I guess? A horrible double standard, really.
I think the most danger Frodo was in during the entire trilogy was when Galadriel was tested and considered taking the ring from him. She is extremely powerful, but in Tolkien's universe, when a good guy is extremely powerful, you don't even realize it because they don't flaunt it like the bad guys do.
Wow the comment "I wanted to crawl out of my skin and be free of it" hit me so hard, I never knew anyone else had those thoughts too 😔 mine definitely stemmed from the fear of men and that no matter how I dressed there was some creeper looking at me or being inappropriate or touching me with out permission. It's a trauma I still haven't fully healed from and I am well past being a teenager.
Same here. Female puberty and all the expectations put on you, coupled with being seen very different by men now, can make you feel quite negatively about your body :( I'll turn 26 soon and have only started to accept myself as a woman or female some years ago
@@rodericblack4657 you are one...the most beautiful girls are the ones who are more exposed to being abused and traumatised...because some men are disgusting! As you seem...
I also wanted to crawl out of my skin and be free of it but because I felt hideous and a freak. I've been taller than most of my country's population since I was 16, and I was chubby, that's how my eating disorder started. Every one of the girls in my class had boyfriends or have guys paying attention to them, but I was always overlooked, so in my case it was envy because of my insecurities.
I feel that Black Widow was once a good example of femininity, while she was certainly very kick-ass that simply wasn't her role on the team. Her introduction and interrogation of Loki in the Avengers were fantastic examples. She used her weakness and vulnerability as a pretty woman to woo the soldiers into a false sense of security, to get them to divulge information unintentionally, after all she was just a pretty face completely at their mercy. And with Loki she actually opened herself up to him, allowed herself to be hurt by him, only to outwit him and beat him with words, something none of the other avengers could have done. But then in her own stand alone movie she was turned into some sort of superhuman, who saw every problem as a nail; that's on top of the fact it was run of the mill action movie rather than a spy thriller, cause you know she was a spy. In regards to Vorsh "I'm smiling, but I'm very fucking furious." - Marshal Zhukov, Death of Stalin. "... eight year old boys, easily distracted by a sword and some cool explosions." I'd be a little insulted if it weren't true.
I’d like to see more women UA-camrs like you, your ideas align with so much of what I’ve been thinking for so long and you put it perfectly in such eloquent words.
One character that springs to mind is Wendy, from J.M. Barrie's "Peter Pan". Although it's a story about children, and perhaps for children, she always struck me as a powerful, feminine character.
Peter is a boy dead terrified of becoming anything, while Wendy is a girl who's OK with becoming a woman someday. She begins the story already out of Peter's league.
It took me until literally just now to realize that the fake-blond fake-sword woman is supposed to be best mommy Galadriel. In the words of a wise man, _U WOT?_
Yessss I'm so happy you're covering this! Galadriel is one of my favorite characters from LOTR, and seeing what Amazon has done with their Rings of Power show just infuriated me on so many levels. And the same goes for other similar characters, or how current Hollywood is handling femininity in general. Which is terrible, to say the least.
I think the Gimli/lock of hair scene is especially beautiful when you understand in Silmarillion that she refused 3 times to offer a strand of her hair to the greedy, corrupt elf Fëanor in the first age. Especially with the tension between dwarves and elves in the history of Middle Earth, it was a huge diplomatic and loving moment when she agreed to offer 3 strands of hair to Gimli. Thereafter, Gimli and Legolas, who at first did not trust each other, became close friends. It’s actually quite beautiful the power a disarming woman can hold in healing divides and seeing the beauty/truth in others.
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm Imagine you're at a funeral where two brothers are burying their dead mother, someone who died tragically in an accident well before her time. The first one mourns her death publicly and doesn't hide the pain, knowing that the funeral is the most appropriate time to do so. The second bottles it up, unwilling to let anyone see it affect him because he wants everyone to think that he's strong and cold-blooded. Which of those two is the real weak one? The one who's willingly vulnerable or the one who pretends he's not? Freewill is somewhat an illusion anyways. Most of your actions are reactions to previous events and are determined by the way those past events shaped your values and desires. If a man were to slap you in the face, whether you'd fight or back down would be determined before he even slapped you. Either you're the sort to fight, or you're not. The action in the moment is irrelevant.
This is a great video that discusses a lot of interesting topics that are thoroughly ignored. I think the modern problem with Galadriel is that she occupies an Archetype that is not popular anymore: the Sorceress Queen. Where the Maiden had found popularity in the form of the Disney Princess, and the Amazon in action movies, the Sorceress Queen (one of my favorite archetypes) has struggled in the media. She occupies the finest of lines. Powerful, but not physically, wise but not quite old, magical but not expressly otherworldly, in many respects she is a witch but not evil, and of course beautiful and alluring, but not a sexual temptress. She is the ultimate feminine, and Galadriel is one of the only examples on film. To see what the new show seeks to do with her character is disheartening to say the least. For actual discussion on this topic that is not right wing religious moralisim, or leftist ideology, look up Camille Paglia here in UA-cam. Read her books! She is near genius in her writing and speaking ability, a woman who is well acquainted with the visceral power of women but also respects the values of men. Seriously, many of the ideas you expressed here, she had talked about at length. Definitely worth a listen!
Lol. I agree with you here but Galadriel is wise AND old (even older than the moon and sun), she's both magical AND otherworldly (she's always described as such.😅
@@queenberuthiel5469 I know. Lol. I love LOTR. I worded it wrong. I meant she isn’t old in appearance, often the Sorceress Queen is immortal, but eternally youthful. And yes Galadriel is among the wisest of the elves. And of course the elves of Tolkien are very other worldly, but often the archetype appears as born on earth having learned magic, like Morgan Le Fay. There are exceptions to every rule. Galadriel doesn’t perfectly fit the archetype, but she is awesome, nonetheless!
@@LucasGonzalez-rj9bk Yes. I agree. She may fall into that Sorceress Queen archetype and I love female characters like that. They don't need to be physically strong(er than most woman but Galadriel is an exception again because she is described as tall, physically strong and athletic) and be a warrior. They were wise, intelligent, resourceful and mostly use their brains and voice to help or to bring change. Even ordinary and mortal feminine characters like Hara Lingayan, who's your typical traditional feminine wife and queen but when it comes to protecting the people she loves or fight for the right thing, characters like her will catch you in surprise and prove that feminine women can also be "badass" without literally kicking ass.
I teared up when you talked about teenage girls and how uncomfortable being female can feel. Even now at 24 years of age, I feel uncomfortable with wearing tops without sleeves when I'm in a verbal conflict with someone because I feel much more vulnerable and even naked. I hate how everyone hates on teenage girls, it's hard enough thanks to biology without adding sexism from both women and men.
Teenage girls need guidance, and instead of giving them what they need, their parents and teachers let them spend all their time online getting brainwashed by lunatics. This is why so many young girls are becoming e-thots and gender confused weirdos. They've been abandoned by those who should be teaching and guiding them, and instead of seeing the sadness behind what they've become, everybody just mocks them.
I think that wearing tops without sleeves is technically making yourself vulnerable? Just to say I'm not sure it's society as a whole's fault that that might feel uncomfortable.
@@katherine6326 Well I hope no teenage girl is unfortunate enough to be guided by you. You're not really any better since you think girls are being brainwashed and you call them with sexist words. Good job you.
By the time of Fellowship of the RIng, Galadriel was arguably the single strongest force for good left in Middle Earth. She was able to bring down the walls of Dol Guldur by her own power. It is very telling then, that people thought they had to take away the parts of her that were feminine in order for some people today to see her as strong.
Here's one of my favourite literary depictions of a strong woman - writer Miljenko Jergović describing his grandmother in the semi-autobiographic short story collection "Mama Leone": "I don’t know how she told Grandma that her granddaughter was dead, but later Mom said she’d feared for Grandma’s heart. We all thought Grandma had a weak heart. That’s actually what the doctors had told us, but it turned out they had it wrong. Her heart could withstand what the strongest in the world couldn’t. It swallowed the sadness like a big snake swallows a rabbit, and kept beating, and we never saw anything on her face, just sometimes a tear would fall when she was watching television. But she didn’t cry." "Grandma said try this fig, for my sake. It was then I gave in because it was a fig and figs are a special fruit for my grandma. Everything to do with figs was tender, quiet, and distant, buried in some long-lost time, and if she went back to that time, she’d become unsteady and unsure of herself, a little girl, my grandma the little girl, because for her all the figs in the world were from Dubrovnik, from the Dubrovnik where she grew up going to an Italian school and looking out to sea from Boninovo. The sea was without end, and life itself had no end, and so at the ends of life and the sea, the only thing in which she was still a child was those figs, in the most beautiful of them all, the violet Ficus indiana, the fruit in which my grandma lives without a single disappointment in life, without a single great pain of adulthood where things stop being childlike and nothing ever happens for the first time. Grandma bore children and buried the first of them, Grandma loved Greta Garbo, her silence and her blue eyes, Grandma delivered grandchildren and buried the first of them, Grandma loved Grandpa and buried him too, Grandma hated the Old Devil because the Old Devil had brought Grandpa only suffering in life and Grandma couldn’t allow it that someone she loved suffered."
This is why I've started watching more anime and reading more manga. I have found feminine heroes that don't have to be physically stronger than their male counterparts or put them down to be strong, brave and resourceful. Yona of the Dawn is one of my all time favorite stories because of this. If you want a feminine hero who learns to save the day and actively strives to be better and stronger ( in more ways than just physically ) throughout her story it's a refreshing read.
Your videos literally heal and inspire me with the level of sane and compassionate takes that actually have the genuine curiosity to delve into and communicate experiences with actual charitable specificity. Man the specificity is what really sooths my brain and allows me to say “I see now and I can totally see how that would make a person feel/behave like that” rather than just being expected to somehow make some general grievance make sense in my brain even if i have so many questions because I can’t quite just magically think up why a person would say that every time.
I totally agree with you. I was a 'tomboy' when I was younger and I found that men who supposedly lifted up women and who wanted women to be treated equally etc were fine with me when I was a tomboy but when I got older I really embraced and loved my femininity and they changed - I had to prove my worth to them and more surprisingly to other women. Because I was feminine and I am still feminine it's treated as something I should be ashamed of and I should be more androgynous or my views and opinions or anything similar are dismissed as a 'feminine presenting' woman and how I couldn't possibly understand anything because being feminine means I must be a 'pick me' girl. It's, of course, not the case and as a woman I also still have more masculine interests than many of my more butch female acquaintances who put me down for being so feminine.
I always wonder if women hating on other women who are very feminine isn't at least partially motivated by jealousy. Men like and much prefer feminine women. In exactly the same way that most women prefer masculine men. I think sometimes that very feminine women not being taken seriously has more to do with clothing than anything else. If a man rocked up to a business meeting in an outfit that was as impractical and stylised as some of what women wear, he definitely would not be taken seriously either. I think women should dress conservatively at work, just as men do. When outside of work though - go nuts.
Masculinity is often portrayed in very dynamic ways. There’s no one way to be masculine, and yet people often describe only one way to be feminine and that turns a lot of women off as we, like men, are a very diverse bunch. This video is the best breakdown I’ve seen on how femininity doesn’t just have to be one way of being and actually gets into how it can be useful to society in a variety of ways. Thank you for this.
Thank you! It's an issue I've been having with the typical 'strong independent woman' - stereotypically male characteristics get glorified at the expense of feminine features. Like I need to become more like a man to be equal, as if female qualities are lesser and cannot be a strength. One of the reasons I do not like to call myself a feminist...
The point of feminism is equality, not subversion of roles nor degradation of some characteristics we tend to associate with women. Actually, people and especially youth are getting more and more vulnerable with themselves, but proud to solve their problems with their tools. Feminism is not a congregation of one thought, but a continuos discussion, because we are aware that some areas of it are still grey and uncharted (as in "what IS feminity per se). This channel exposed only a percentage of feminism, but this isn't the only way of thinking, and unfortunately is very biased and cherrypicked even on male feminists, using one extreme case to describe the whole movement (does it seem fair to you?) Not all of feminists authors parade for aggression or masculinization, but feminists will speak for women and men to stand up for themselves and their fellows when abuse is in action (and unfortunately, a lot of "old values" people are prone to abusing more than leftists because "things worked better in the ol' days", which can justify children and teens getting psychologically abused). Lastly, to remain in topic, taking a step back and recognizing that some of the "life lessons" in the disney movies aged pretty badly doesn't mean you can't still enjoy them, just that nowadays it's better that those characters remain in the fantasy stories realm, and do not get applied blindly to our future women and men. Hope i got my message across
It was indeed that pandering, two-faced misogynist Steven Moffat that drove me away from Doctor Who - but I should be paradoxically grateful as it's gotten me into doing my own 'tres amateur' translations of the absolutely brilliant Nathalie Henneberg a criminally overlooked author whose writing captures everything fun and enjoyable about SF-Fantasy.
Loving the My Fair Lady clips. Definitely my favorite musical, it's hysterically funny (even tho I HATE the ending). And I love how the songs about 'why can't a woman be more like a man' are meant as satire, coming as they are from the mind of a very arrogant, self-absorbed man! But I'm sure the entire movie is considered politically incorrect nowadays 🙄
Galatea, I know you're harsh on your old work, but seriously, each new video you make is your best yet, and that's something to be proud of. Thank you for being a voice of hope and reason (and loveliness and humor) in this batshit crazy world.
Galadriel had three times denied a loch of her hair to one of the most powerful elves to ever exist, but she gave it to little'ol Gimli. That was a very important part of the story for both Gimli and Galadriel. Remember ... she gave Gimli three.
I'm kind of embarrassed, but I've never heard anyone explain the massive jump from female childhood to adolescence in a way that so plainly illustrates how wildly different your world becomes overnight. Really well articulated stuff.
The best part of the movie was where Galadriel became unnerved by the possibilities of the ring. The audience was disturbed by its ability to damage her calm.
Because she wasn't always that person, she was incredibly prideful and sought power when she was younger, her experience in middle earth and her life helped her learn and grow into who we see her as in the hobbit and LOTR movies, someone more graceful and compassionate, the fact she gave gimly three strands of her hair was a show of how much she let go of her pride, only two other men had asked before and she turned them down, these were greater and more powerful men than gimly was. Her encounter with the one ring brought out her older self, her pride and lust for power, and her desire to rule. She resisted because of the wisdom and experience she gained through life and considered it as a test to see if she was worthy of returning back to Valinor, in the past she refuses to return and is eventually banned from returning at all.
Vaush’s defense was he was just being “ironic”. Imagine watching a guy who’s only defense for being a hypocrite and being called out for it is, “its just a prank bro”.
The word "ironic" was used systematically by feminists to excuse and justify their awful treatment of men an boys, in fiction, entertainment and in real life, and also to justify a wide range of psychological and emotional attacks on men meant to break them and take advantage on men, an in particular make sure men shut their mouths and not complain too much about being treated as sub-humans by feminists. Nobody seemed to care too much when feminists behaved the way they did or used the word "ironic" to excuse themselves.
I know I wouldn't give up on work too, but do you know how many times I've heard women say "I would like to be a stay at home mom" (or just take care of a house) only to quickly add, looking almost scared, "But I don't think I would manage it, haha, I'd get bored and find a part-time job at least!". Is there something wrong with a woman wanting to spend time raising a child instead of throwing it quickly to the system (kindergartens etc)? I always find it so sad when a woman needs to defend her decision and say things like she'd go back to work once child is older when you can see she really would be happy not working in a company again. On a side note, I love those "I want a traditional woman" types. What they actually mean is "I want a lady from American's upper class from 50s, who didn't have to go to work". Women. Has. Always. Worked. Unless one was from a nobility but then they were supposed to know at least how to run a house, carry a conversation etc. They weren't stupid bimbos >.> Running a house is a job too though.
Galadriel is a personification of what the poet Robert Graves calls "The White Goddess". She's the Isis of the Egyptians, the Ngame of the Africans, the Athena of the Greeks. Women who embody and express their innate and divine femininity are attiring themselves in the white garment of the Goddess that all the major societies throughout the world (including the most masculine) worshipped and adored. Girls, each and every one of you are a Queen and a Goddess at heart: wise, beautiful, gentle, fierce, poetic, powerful, intuitive, empathetic, and demanding of respect. The world today is driven by hyper-masculinity (and will be for some time), but the time is drawing near when the pendulum will swing, the moon will shine bright, and the feminine will have its era. Dare to bear your radiant diadem with a tall posture and to be a shining harbinger of what is to come. You are so, so valued, and so, so needed. Thank you for this powerful video Galatea.
Having finished this hour long adventure, I found it truly refreshing, the description of the fears and trials of a girl coming of age melted my heart and awakened in me the resolve to make certain that my little girl knows that she is loved, cared for and safe, if ever I am blessed to father a daughter. Thank you.
I’m 40 minutes into the video, so I don’t know if you make this point later on, but I started thinking about how nowadays in mainstream media, femininity in men is rewarded, seen as being strong, and is acceptable, and then their masculinity is typically frowned upon. Same thing goes for women in media too like you said; a woman’s femininity is seen as shallow but if she’s masculine, she’s worthy. It’s so bizarre. There’s nothing wrong with feminine boys and masculine girls, but the way so many stories today demonize femininity in women and masculinity in men is just crazy. Femininity itself is not weak and masculinity itself is not toxic.
I don't know but where I live 'femininity' or whatever people want it to be is not really rewarded at all. People seem very confused that certain traits are actually not linked to one gender (even if certain traits might be more common for one gender) and seem to have a very hard time accepting that society has to change and be accepting of men and women who don't fit into the traditional box of genders.
@@juliab9596 I would say this is more common in the mainstream media and Hollywood. I would not say it’s a universal truth, but on social media, Hollywood, and among my social circle (theatre kid), this is pretty common.
@@juliab9596 there's a difference between showing acceptance to those people and demonizing the people who don't conform to those people. You don't accept people by demonizing the ones who are not like them. Its counterproductive. Take the example of ATLA, Katara is a traditionally feminine icon but also strong, and her counterpart is Toph who's a tomboy but also strong. Those two are shown in a positive light. Unlike in other medias where the masculine leaning woman is shown in a postive light whilst the feminine leaning woman is shown as vapid and shallow.
OMG YES!!! The part where you said grown men start looking at them but they still feel like children!!! I wish more people would talk about this transition 😫 that women undergo a physical change which appears to signal a group of individuals who are older but I still feel like a child 👀 no magic light switch flipped in my brain that makes me ready for any of this, especially the attention. I was still the little girl I was before those charges started.
I’m done with the whole femininity and masculine thing I’m a man and I don’t give a fuck what I’m under I live my life I love my Hugs I cry and I’m willing to be a stay at home dad if necessary
I think that we, collectively as a culture, don't see people as full human beings able to experience the full spectrum of human feelings and attributes. Collectively we view each gender as one side of a coin, possessing only a select range of such feelings and attributes, when there's really a lot more overlap than many people want to acknowledge. Its more comfortable, I think, for many people to look to extremes where there may be more of a clear-cut divide rather than in the large gray area between those extremes because things become less simple and more difficult to categorize in that part of the spectrum. If there's one thing humans like doing, it's labeling things. And if there's one thing that makes us very uncomfortable, it's being unable to assign a label to something. Black and white thinking when it comes to gender causes so much unnecessary pain for so many people. Good for you living as you are as a person and not letting pop culture dictate how you should be. As a lifelong tomboy, I'm right here with you.
20:50 I love this analogy. I get the sense lessons such as this haven't been imparted to youths over the last few generations. I feel like so many parents have given up trying to clarify things for their children or toughen them up in such a way. Instead, we've either just "left them alone" so they can remain awash in confusion their whole lives, or pushed them in unproductive and even destructive directions without a second thought. I suppose that's pretty vague or too general, but suffice to say that I think family rearing has seriously suffered in the last few generations, and these quibbles about gender, sexuality and the sexes is simply a symptom. The world is growing increasingly full of lost souls, either smothered by over-protectiveness and indoctrination, or left to wither on the vine by neglect and timidity. I consider myself among the latter. It's no picnic trying to figure this all out on your own. It's easy for us dudes, especially young dudes or those who have been wronged by women before, to get resentful and pent up and start blaming them for everything. This analogy of feminine power as a sword is a sobering reminder that it's not that simple. Obviously, there will be those vicious bitches who thrill at the discovery of "the sword", and gleefully misuse it, leaving a path of destruction and sorrow in their wake. But he same is true of men and their masculine "sword" (lol). We both have a painful and difficult birthright thrust upon us at a young age, and it's hard to come to terms with that, especially if your parents aren't in the picture. Or they're possessed by ideology and refuse to speak the truth. Your video is a sterling example of the good will you can maintain just by approaching a topic with understanding and honesty. As a dude who's had issues with women his whole life, it's gratifying and sobering to hear your perspective, and I may not have given it a chance if you'd have approached it with the same bravado or viciousness you so often hear with modern feminists. Subscribed.
As a more masculine-leaning woman, thank you for the disclaimer you give that the more masculine women do in fact exist - it's something often neglected in these calls for valuing feminine women/masculine men. The last thing we would need is for masculine women and feminine women to turn against each other on this! As said in the video, a lot of these hashtag strong female characters are actually not even relatable to masculine women anyway, because they're not actually masculine, just removed from feminine "weakness" (being a masculine woman is about far more than just brutality). I think we need to go back to a place of realizing and respecting that most women naturally lean towards feminity, and men towards masculinity... buuuuut, there's the exceptions with feminine men and masculine women, who deserve to fit within this system without making any way of being a false ideal for everyone. Accepting yourself as a gender-nonconforming person isn't helped by pretending the overall differences between male and female doesn't exist either, because being masculine as a woman is different from the way a man is, anyway. I really feel like the message of this video should be talked about more. I don't myself feel very feminine or relate to feminine characters that much, so often haven't felt personally attacked by demeaning portrayals of femininity, but recently I started to consider more how "femininity" is often equated with submissiveness, weakness and passivity (valid to consider as negative traits)... And I was considering the strong-willed feminine women I've met and seen, it just doesn't seem right. They may not be masculine, but that sure doesn't mean they are submissive or weak. Sure, there's a masculine kind of power, but there's feminine power too! It's just as strong and important, women can have just as much willpower and force, for a feminine woman it's just a different kind of power than the masculine one we are more familiar with. I think part of the problem is that "traditional femininity" under patriarchy has at least partly been about conditioning women to be submissive to and servicing of men, so we need to do some rediscovering of what femininity means when it's allowed to flourish for it's own sake. Women don't HAVE to be feminine, but many are and deserve some respect for that.
Why do women always assume that cultural depictions of femininity that don't like are the doing of the "patriarchy". Women do and always have steered culture as much as men. Women are usually (of course there are plenty of exceptions) more submissive than men. That is why it is considered a more feminine trait. The traits that are considered masculine or feminine where not decided upon by some council of judges before men and women came to be. They are the traits generally exhibited by the sexes relative to one another. It's not a grand conspiracy, it's common human nature and no trait is monopolised by either sex. They will also, always, be plenty of exceptions.
@@hooligan9794 I never said it's a depiction I don't like. As said in the post I specifically said I never felt personally offended much by depictions of femininity as submissiveness/passivity/weakness either way exactly because I just don't relate to that kind of femininity in women. What I wrote is I've come to consider that linking feminity inherently to weakness is a misunderstanding. It's not just that women can be "strong and masculine", but that feminity itself is not inherently weak or submissive. Yes, there's submissive (feminine) women, as there are men. Femininity CAN be weak but isn't inherently so. (Toxic feminity in the same sense as there is toxic masculinity I guess?) Enforcing your will directly and overpowering everyone for dominance sure is more masculine, but are we going to delude ourselves into thinking that masculine strength is the ONLY source of strength? Yeah, it's more feminine to be emotional, flexible, compassionate, warm, soft, tender, subtle, considerate, elegant, dignified and as I said, most women may gravitate towards those traits over masculine ones. My point is those traits do not inherently mean weakness or subservience. A woman can be very feminine, very soft and gentle and all that, and still have a strong will of her own, stand on her own two feet with fire in her eyes and know what she wants and what she expects from those around her. A woman doesn't have to be masculine to be a strong person. It IS a very patriarchal mentality to bulldoze over all other ways of being to demand that hashtag DOMINANCE and BRUTAL FORCE is the only traits that make a person strong or are worth valuing, and it absolutely is the prerogative of patriarchy to demand specifically submissiveness and subservience from women, go right back and read some texts from the 1700s and see what they said about women's roles in society.
@@neurotrino3292 I'm not arguing that society didn't proscribe roles for women (as it absolutely did for men too). What I am arguing is that women were involved in that prescription, for both sexes too. If you took a look at the lot of the average man in the 1700s, it will be entirely unsurprising that that the average woman wanted nothing to do with it. I disagree that dominance and brute force were the only forms of strength people recognised. The feminine has always been considered powerful and dangerous as much as it was seen as all the softer things. I don't think we disagree all that much I just find the "patriarchy" stuff a little tedious. Women have always made use and reinforced the "patriarchy" to their own advantage. Were women unfairly disadvantaged in many areas? Of course. Were men? Of course.
@@hooligan9794 I'm not disagreeing with that, but I don't think my post said this? I meant "patriarchy" to refer to traditional cultural norms enforcing women to be subservient, instead of just blaming "male writers" or whatever. I refer to patriarchy more in a past sense, since I don't think we live in an actual patriarchy in most western societies in current times, however, patriarchy is a real thing that existed and does leave an impact. It does harm both men and women, that was my point of how people of both genders are complex and deserve respect and freedom from one simplified constraining role. Masculinity is valuable, femininity is valuable and they exist in natural forms outside of the traditional norms even though those roles maybe were adjacent to what is perhaps an inherent "masculine nature" that mostly (not only) males gravitate towards and same with femininity/females. Right now society is trying to getting rid of the traditional gender roles, so we need to do some rediscovering of what both masculinity and feminity mean outside of it (and what men and women should strive to be), because it doesn't seem to be working to pretend everybody is just the same.
@@neurotrino3292 I wasn't suggesting that there wasn't a patriarchy, I was arguing against the "patriarchy" as an entirely male construct that had the goal of oppressing women. Perhaps you aren't suggesting it was that but it is nearly the only way it is discussed these days. Women had a significant hand in the patriarchy too. Other than that, I think I agree with just about everything you said there.
I think katara from ATLA is also a good example of this. She can fight yes, but ultimately she acted as the mother of the group who held them together and took care of them. The duality of her waterbending as both healing and destructive acts as additional support of her multifaceted nature as both a warrior and a protector and that both can exist and neither is more superior to the other.
I'm a man who was brought here by the algorithm's sensing of my great displeasure on the sundering of Tolkien's timeless legendarium. Of all the criticisms of the Rings of Power series this may be the lengthiest but somehow seems to also be the most pertinent. The biggest insult of this series is the deconstruction of Galadriel's character, to which your insight is particularly informative and appreciated. Rey Skywalker was bad enough, but Galadriel is sacred, and Amazon has kindled colossal contempt within me.
@@ThatKid22101 Prideful, yes. Strong, certainly (at least by the Tolkien conception of Strength which predominantly portrayed the most unlikely of candidates to prevail in the most grueling of circumstances (the halfling Frodo, Eowyn/Pippin, the strength of Galadriel, and even the power of Narya, all being examples of subtle, 'soft', Tolkien-style power)). Hell, the fact that the lovers Beren and Luthien play as huge of a role as they do is another way Tolkien makes the case for soft power. I have read it though admittedly it's been awhile. But if you seriously for one fraction of a millisecond believe that Tolkien had Galadriel running constantly about with sword, armor, and "p!$$ and vinegar in her veins" I am CERTAIN that you are not as familiar with it as you imply yourself to be.
Is "the deconstruction of Galadriel's character" really the biggest insult of the series? Based on what? A single screenshot? I'm not filled with confidence for the series but come on.
@@Jagonath The trailer contained so very little Tolkien. Most of its cast are newly invented, and... fine. But if you won't be true to the tiny bit of Tolkien's work you're including, then what are you actually doing? What bigger insult could there possibly be?
IF I MIGHT SPEAK IN MY DEFENSE.
I... am weirded out by becoming minor lore in this saga of shit-kicking people who irk you.
First of, right, first of all, I was already flustered by you zooming in and saying "I'll be gentle". That's a lot to begin with right there. So there's that established. And then there's the fact I was having dinner at the time, so when I heard my name read out I just assumed it was coincidence, then realised I was receiving a drubbing down FOR NO OTHER REASON than being damn accurate (and you know I was. You SAID I was.) and then my entire comment was read out. I declare myself maligned, besmirched and, yes, scalded.
BUT I MIGHT ADD!
This all comes as a devastating blow, since I have shouted you out to over 20,000 people since last summer. Here's me on The Alizee Yeezy show, saying how good you were in your Peter Rabbit video: ua-cam.com/video/cxRX4eNAt_U/v-deo.html (1:07:00)
Now, you might be thinking 'What did he mean "only 30,000 subscribers"?' - well, I shall tell you: Alizee is staunchly contrary and won't let me finish thoughts, so rather than going on to give her shit, as I did, I INTENDED to say that you, Galatea, (who must be reading this with what I hope is nothing short of contrition and penitence at this stage) only have thirty thousand subscribers DESPITE - despite, right - despite putting out great content.
WELL THEN.
I think we've all learned a thing or two about who does and doesn't deserve to be kicked out of the cult for blind loyalty.
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P.S. Audrey Hepburn's being an actress is actually the LEAST interesting part of that woman's life - she's amazing and people reading this far should go read about her and stop giving me the business because I'm still so, so very confused as to how I got here.
NO ROB DON'T BE MAD I've had a think and decided that you can be in the cult after all. Take it as a sign of my graciousness for allowing this, even though you didn't properly apologise
(in all seriousness though thanks for the shout out, it is much appreciated, and I'm very sorry for bullying you)
@@theauthenticobserver Cult membership restored! F*** yeah! I'm great at cults. And I'll properly apologise when I get a Mulan video, yeah? Yeah.
(In all seriousness though I'll properly apologise when I get a Mulan video. Your move.)
I watch both of you and this is an incredible expirience for me
Also there was a shoutout on the podcast and Rob was very nice!
@@АннаКопатько Oh hey, thanks for watching! What a strange venn diagram of content you have to watch. And if Galatea wants to come on the podcast to address this case, this dispute, this FEUD, then she can email Alizee and we can settle it like calm, mature adults...
... or as putulant children in a fist fight. I'm personally fine with either one.
I love the fact that someone finally put words to the argument, "why do you have to make the woman more like a man in order to make her stronger?"
Or we could just accept the fact that not everything is either 'masculine' or 'feminine' and that certain traits can and should be found in both genders. Women can be strong and should not need to call themselves 'strogn' or 'independent' to be considered on the same 'level' as a man.
I wish I could remember who said this so I can give them credit, but 'Why are we turning strong female into toxic masculinity?' Because not only are female characters being turned into men, but writers are giving them all the 'bad' male traits framed as strength.
You don't, but you can. Just like you can make a man have qualities traditionally labeled as feminine you can have a woman take on qualities you traditionally see in males. There is this interesting thing called 'fiction' that allows you to do this kind of stuff, you all might want to check it out I think you might like it.
because there are no personality traits or interests inherent to men or women. masculinity and femininity are man-made constructs, and femininity is meant to weaken women. beauty, submission, grace, self-sacrifice are all negative traits that serve only to weaken us, and these are not female traits, they are feminine traits. femininity is inherently negative, and handmaidens like this idiot up here are only pushing propaganda. "IT'S OKAY TO BE FEMININE!!!" yeah, we know. femininity is not under attack, it has never been under attack, this is a victim complex handmaidens have because one feminist once said "have you tried not wearing makeup?" and they lost their fucking minds. women with swords and armor are NOT like men, because they are women. if you think dresses, makeup and glamor are what makes you "like a woman", you're a misogynist.
Well, this would probably stop, if we started to cease gendering everything that has nothing to do with biology and procreative roles?
What I really hate about this portrayal of Galadriel is that it shows how immature the world has become where people who kill are seen as something special. J R R Tolkien fought in a real war, the 1st world war and he learnt the truth: there is nothing special about killing. Anyone can do it. But those who save lives by healing and who prevent wars by leading and ruling wisely are people who are truly special. And he made Galadrial one of those people. Someone who witnessed real violence and choose a different path.
I couldn't agree more.
Maybe Galadriel learns this lesson through fighting in a war as well? I haven’t read the books or watched the show so my opinion doesn’t really matter BUT what if her being a hardcore ruthless warrior only to learn that she simply cannot save the world with violence IS a fitting way to explain how she became who she is? I mean she’s had 5,000 years to mature, it does make a certain sense that her younger self could be a wild combat-focused warrior almost unrecognizable to who she becomes? It almost makes her allure more meaningful, because she developed that quality instead of being born with it.
Maybe baby Galadriel IS the awkward teen girl trying to use brute force to prove her strength but realizes through the years that she’s doing herself and her people a disservice.
Of course idk what the show runners are going to do, they might totally fumble it.
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Beautiful and wise comment!
@@cdass001 she doesn't though, ROP Galadrial is basically just 21st century American Girl boss. Tolkien's Galadrial never fought in wars but she did witness her people the Noldor commit the first of the kinslayings (elves killing elves) when the Noldor killed the Teleri and stole their ships to get to Middle Earth. She was disgusted by it but went to Middle Earth for her own reasons (to reign over her own fiefdom). As soon as she got to Middle Earth both her and her brother got away from the Noldor and their Lord Feanor whom she dispised. Amazon Galadrial acts more like Feanor she's arrogant, cruel, motivated by self interest and does not care about what effects this has on people around her. And this is portrayed as a good thing.
In Gimli's defense, asking your beloved lady for a strand of her hair to carry with you to the battlefield is actually an old school tradition among soldiers, so it's not that weird a thing for someone in Middle Earth to ask
Sad how Feminism fell from Grace,
partially validly so, partially not valid.
Just sayin': Some of the most educated, warm People on the Internet,
like Emma Thorne, Pop Culture Detective and Hbomberguy consider themselves
Feminists.
You're right. It was a very common thing.
And HE got THREE
*makes note for future novel*
(or maybe a current one)
(idk)
This gesture is one of the most historical important events in whole fucking middle earth.
Let me elaborate, there once was the mightiest kings of the elves Fëanor. Who saw Galadriel’s Hair, witch looked like it had the light of the two Tree’s shining through them (Before Sun and Moon, two threes made the light; one golden, one silver). He longed for her hair and asked her three times, but see saw the darkness and the greed in his heart and denied three times. (Fore more details read the Silmarillion ore Google)
Then thousand years later she gets asked again by Gimli, a dwarf. But his heart is pure, fore he ist just full of admiration and she grant’s him his wish; she who denied here one kid but give it to a dwarf. Which Gimli will set in crystal and will be an symbol for the friendship of Elves and Dwarfs, two groups that hated and slaughtered each other throughout centuries…
And Galadriel does it and nobody said something against it.
(Sorry fore my bad English)
“Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short and wear shirts and boots because it's okay to be a boy; for girls it's like promotion. But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, according to you, because secretly you believe that being a girl is degrading.”
Ian McEwan, the cement garden
This sentence is full of logical fallacies. This person seems to identify BEING a girl with PRESENTING a certain way, like having long hair, wearig a dress and make up etc. But PRESENTING a certain way doesn't mean you ARE a woman or a man. The only thing that decides whether you're a woman or a man are your chromosomes, not the way you dress and cut your hair. A boy who has long hair and wears a dress does not "look" like a girl. He simply looks like a long haired boy in a dress.
@@InstariusI think the quote uses presentation as a comment on femininity and masculinity. As in: "Modern society approves of masculine women, but men who are feminine are 'lesser'". I don't think it's really a comment on biological sex. It seems more like a statement on modern gender politics.
Also, presentation is fairly important to gender. You are right that it isn't a necessity, but many people use gender presentation to express their gender identity. Maybe you know that already, but I couldn't tell from your comment.
Let’s be honest though jeans are more practical than a dress. If you want to do work, be comfortable or be productive in any way you wear pants not a dress. Only thing a dress does is look pretty. A lot of the things we consider to be masculine like wearing pants or having short hair don’t even make any sense. In olden times men had long hair too also they often times dressed in a way we would consider feminine depending on if they were nobility or not. A lot of this stuff is pure bs fed to us via 1950s propaganda which is a very recent and new thing.
@@dreamsprayanimation Oh! Most definitely! Gendered clothing is one of the weirdest things in the world! Wear what you wanna wear! No need to make a dress for women, short hair for men, and pink for girls. Some of our Prestablished genderized items are just weird.
@@haroldyoung2361 amen!
I hate how ultra feminine women are often demonised, or made to be inferior characters compared to tomboys. Fortunately, Elle Woods trampled all over this tired stereotype in her stilettos!
Blessed Elle Woods I love her so much. Pink and cute shouldn't be a problem to kick some ass and she proves it!
oh yeah, they def are 'demonised' in hollywood's eyes but let's not act like femininity and being feminine isn't the standard for women everywhere. same as masculinity is for men.
@@lorettoponton7218 Yep, awesome film, so underrated
@@TheNuclearNihilist I seriously don’t understand how you got that from my initial comment. what an absurd conclusion. I said that femininity is the standard for ALL females (women AND girls) just like how for males it is masculinity. Just because hollywood demonised being ditzy and ultra feminine doesn’t mean that femininity is some sort of oppressed aesthetic for women when it is quite literally created by the patriarchy just like how masculinity is.
I’m specifically talking about clothing and appearance here btw. not feminine gestures or attitudes.
That metaphor on how femininity is a double-edged sword that is suddenly handed to a teenager girl that may be powerful but can just as easily hurt themselves is great.
Also applies to masculinity actually. Suddenly you are expected to be an agent of aggression and bravado. Great if you know how to walk that tightrope but you will fall hard if you get it wrong.
Society is often harsh on teenage girls she can never just be one thing cause she'll get shamed either way. You cant be strictly feminine and you cant be strictly masculine either and sometimes you cant be both at the same time. The internet just hates teenage girls. We might as well just not exist if being female is such a problem. A woman cant just be herself if its a problem to those around her.
That stood out
@@mayormccheese6171 Well, if you are not that you're gonna get literally murdered on the street like an abandoned puppy.
@@mayormccheese6171 Also, do you want to walk that rope? Just like women can feel pressured to conform to femininity or nowadays, break it, not all teenage guys are the brash type. Teenagehood is a very frightening time and what she said about wanting to crawl out of one's skin truly was accurate, and more widely applicable than she might think.
I love your way of defending femininity. My only small disagreement with you here is that I think there's something to be said about the strength of Snow White and Cinderella. I think they are very strong characters through their positivity despite abuse, kindness and the hope they still maintain.
sure, I totally get what you're saying - I think those qualities are important - though I do still think there's an argument that those characters can sometimes fall too far on the side of ... passivity, maybe? I agree that there's strength in them not loosing their softness even during suffering, but I also still think it'd be too easy for them to get gobbled up by a wolf. I'd just prefer them to be a bit more balanced
@@theauthenticobserver I agree, especially Snow White. Snow White used to be my favorite Disney movie, I would watch it all the time, but even as a 5 year old I thought how stupid she was for taking something from a stranger 😆 I guess as a little kid it was drilled into my head to not trust strangers. So I never liked Snow White as a princess, but I loved Cinderella. Cinderella is passive too, but some of the new iterations were fantastic, especially the 2015 live action version. I absolutely adore that version of the story. I would also recommend the book Ella Enchanted. The movie is ridiculous but the book is amazing!
I often watch The Take "Cinderella: stop blaming the victim"
(Link: ua-cam.com/video/huLSdm6IH0g/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheTake)
Because I find it is such a good essay that encapsulates a lot of the things that makes the old version of cinderella strong. And it also goes into the whole "hate on femininity". It's only 13 min long, but it's the best video essay to come out about the old version of Cinderella, if you ask me :)
@@theauthenticobserver I would disagree with you on that point.
In term of passive character, I would say the Slepping Beauty is more in this realm, but Cinderella and Snow-White, I wouldn't say.
Both of them work really hard every day to build a home and protect the people around them (the 7 dwarf for Snow-White and the animals for Cinderella who protect the mice from the Cat for example). And this is the power of femininity in my mind, not fighting the evil with a sword, but creating a home for the ones who have not.
Galadriel, for example, is the queen of a kingdom she has built herself, and transform into a heaven on earth, and protect from the power of evil for thousands of years.
Movies are full of heroes ready to die against their enemy, but what give someone the courage to face death ?
That's why I would say Snow-White and Cinderella are weak. They have given the dwarves and the animals the strength and courage to defend them, and when both of them were in danger the cowardly mice and the grumpy dwarves haven't hesitated to fight in their name.
I wouldn't say it is passivity. And I highly doubt a wolf could gobble them without a hunter killed him in the second.
Women dont need to be strong, we can inspire men to be our warriors.
That is a gift.
I grew up reading the Anne of Green Gables books and I always thought she was such a perfect model of femininity that modern teenage girls aren't getting to see nowadays as an influence. She was strong-willed and smart, and there was nothing sexual about her and yet she grew up to have a romance with her dashing husband and children and lived a full life. I loved her even when she was the mother character in the later books, she was still the Anne we knew, interesting but mature now.
I never read the books but I watched the tv show on Netflix and loved it.
I read the book at 30 and was so appalled by the pedagogy I just couldn't finish reading it.
Anne herself is headstrong, creative, intelligent, sharp, and down to earth, and I don't think these qualities have been lost at all. Also, I would argue that some women experience not being sexualised today, too.
Man of Green Gables
Yes, it’s more than a little infantilizing to pretend that sexuality doesn’t enter into girls life until she’s being courted by her husband. It sounds like you have a stunted idea of what is correctly “feminine”
I think the first time I realized your point was watching Avatar the Last Airbender. It blew my mind that there were so many strong women, some tomboyish and some soft, some mom-ish, some sexy. It blew my mind because every character was powerful along the lines of their own strengths and character types.
One of the million reasons why ATLA is probably the best thing ever
It's a very good series, with very good characters. People that make mistakes, have flaws, need to learn and grow. Villains who are allowed to be sympathetic, while still being villains or even actually evil. The actual Toph.
And Sokka is the only man who's consistently the butt of the joke
That is also fantasy.
And it is also funny that the most hated character of the main cast is Katara, the more feminine, feelings-oriented, mom-ish, caring character, and the favorite female character by far is Toph, the tomboy, kinda rude, and physically strong one EVEN THOUG Katara is just as strong as toph. and is often being hated on for being "annoying" with her outburst of feelings, for being protective and or "rude" , mean while toph doing the exact same thing it is just "funny" or just "toph" lol
I was a "tomboy" as a kid because I think I thought femininity was a negative. I like dressing much more feminine now and own it, but back then it felt like it would make me look stupid and weak. I don't know what made me feel that way, but probably for similar reasons that you outlined in the "the kids are not okay" section.
Loved the "My Fair Lady" inserts hahaha
As long as you only do it FOR YOURSELF and not for anyone else.
Be proud of you and who you are and happy even when both sexes think your weird
Yea i relate to this. I definitely had the "not like other girls mindset" growing up mostly because i was afraid of getting made fun of for enjoying girly stuff and being seen as "just stupid girl". Now I'm halfway in my 20s I have a baby pink phone case with liquid glitter and nobody can stop me.
@@Robiness Heck yeah, live that pink sparkle life
I bounce between a tomboy and a classic feminine women especially with what I like and dress. unfortunately they are also pushing this towards the strand community, if I ever talk about how sometimes I feel girly sometimes I feel boyish they would say its gender fluid. Im fine with trans, in fact I'm in the lgbt myself but I feel like they are pushing way too far.
I just had a flashback to university when we were talking about Howl's Moving Castle and the tutor said that Sophie's magic to talk life into things was antifeminist because it was, according to them, basically magic childbirth and find myself just as annoyed as I was on that day as if Sophie isn't meant to be a feminine feminist protagonist and the fact she can make a walking stick spring to life and beat the shit out of someone or make flowers bloom or wilt with a word shouldn't detract from that as if it's a detriment to her character and story or her ability to be a feminist role model to readers
WHAT NO omg I replied to another comment talking about Sophie and how she's one of my favourite characters ever, HER POWERS ARE SO COOL and positive and powerful and wonderful and also WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH MAGIC CHILDBIRTH ANYWAY SHE CAN LITERALLY CREATE LIFE good god, I would say childbirth basically is magic you've literally created another whole person how is that demeaning in any way I will hear no bad words against Sophie she is such a legend
That just tells you that these people think feminism needs to be anti-feminine, they probably deride women that want to be mother's etc
Wow, looking at everything through the feminist lens really must ruin everything :( My mom said it ruined all the literary classes she took at college.
What an appalling lack of analysis for someone meant to be teaching others. Even if we accept the premise that speaking life into things was intended as a metaphor for childbirth, which is a massive stretch because it parallels many different creation myths involving *male* deities, how the heck did the teacher come to the conclusion that this godlike power is a bad thing?
This really just reinforces the idea that feminists hate femininity and only value stereotypically male traits in female characters.
And that's not even considering what she does to grow Howl, helping him to overcome his own personal demons, namely immaturity and vanity. Sophie is an amazing character.
I can't imagine someone looking at Galadriel and going "Yeah, she's pretty cool, but she doesn't kick ASS though". It's such a watered down definition of power. Galadriel isn't just ancient, or magical, or beautiful. She's all those things to an overpowering, alien degree. In the movies I was always struck by how uncanny and a little frightening she is; it feels like she could drive you insane if she wanted to. Or that an unprepared mortal could waste away basking in her light.
I mean she canonically does fight in battle frequently since you know she’s a magic elf and powerful monarch it’s literally in the original
Be made a goddess bitch picks up a sword? Boo hoo
Galadriel is basically the Yoda of LOTR. She has this otherworldness about her. You really think if she wasn't unblinking grinning at you by the magic pool she could melt your brain with just her thoughts. (Cate? Kingdom of The Crystal Skull anyone?) That scene in Fellowship alone with Frodo is kind of unnerving. Ditto how Yoda can lift X Wings with a little puppet finger and his "....you will be....you WILL be" afraid retort. It takes away from their mysterious when you hand them phallic protective tools AKA swords. Swords are awesome, I own some and love them, but Galidi is more powerful than a mere sward!
Gorgeous description of Galadriel. 🙌🏼☺️
There isn't a literal instance, no. Galadriel did cast down the walls of Dol Guldur in the Ring War, but that's not melee combat--and she was greatly empowered by the elven ring. The only place I can think of where Galadriel could have done any real fighting was during the Kinslaying, Helcaraxë episodes--surely an all hands on deck situation.
Its rare to find a strong woman in fiction nowadays who isn't on a mission to prove how strong and independant she is, and in doing so, ironically reveals how insecure she is.
My main character is on this arc, on purpose mind you
Or how she can be a man better than a man. I detest captain marvel
@@Debble The 80's Wonder Woman struck a great balance.
“Nowadays” i dont like it when ppl use that word cuz it implies that it somehow was better before mainstream female rep isnt good now and it was never good
@@aravil2858 yes but particular tropes come in and out of popularity, or are completely invented, relative to the time period: hence nowadays
The way girl protagonists were written in mainstream YA fiction when I was growing up seriously mucked with my mentality. After going through serious trauma as a teen, I looked to them as role models and ended up toughening myself to the point where any vulnerability or gentleness was stifled. I thought I was being strong, but I was really just killing myself emotionally. In reality letting those experiences soften me and make me gentler and kinder would've been much more of a show of strength imo.
16 y/o me: "I can take out anyone who messes with me!"
No honey, you can't. But what you CAN do is use your experience to help nurture and love people who need your help.
Goodness do I have some beef over how women are written in modern YA. It's so angry and dripping with internalized misogyny. Heck some of the most self-identified "feminist" ones treat every female character that isn't the heroine like dumb cowardly bimbos.
@@jessip8654 I have defninetely seen this and it is annoying, but I also think that there are fairly many YA novels that stray from that formula.
I'm not always the most observant, so it's possible I overlooked problematic aspects but in my experience there are quite a few YA novels (especially released over the last four years) where the protagonist is really embracing their own identity - no matter how feminine or masculine it is - and really showing respect to other young women, even if they are completely different from them.
Sadly I think that often the more popular ones are also the more problematic ones, and books with only 40 reviews on goodreads will actually turn out quite neat... bad editing aside :D
@@RexxyRobin sure there are great, progressive YA novels out there, but they're not the popular ones.
Exactly.
On some level this is why I loved Tamora Pierce’s books when I was younger. Especially The Song of the Lioness. Sure it starts just as a girl wanting to become a knight and going in secret and disguising herself to beat all the boys, but she has a very interesting emotional journey where she not only learns to respect other women. She learns she likes them. And what’s more she learns she does like to be feminine. Maybe not always. She isn’t going out to battle in a dress, but she realizes the simple fact that she is allowed to like pretty things. I think that left an impression on me. That you can do both in whatever combination you choose. And yet so many books for girls fail to stick that landing. Falling into the trope that you must give up your femininity to be something important.
I would like to thank Vaush for highlighting a content creator light years better than himself.
I'm a female martial artist, and I grappled with being 'tough' to be taken seriously. Because apparently we can't be multifaceted human beings that can choose to be strong in our own ways.
"No one idealizes masculine characteristics more than feminists do".
I'll be quoting that to the day I die.
Sad how Feminism fell from Grace,
partially validly so, partially not valid.
Just sayin': Some of the most educated People on the Internet,
like Emma Thorne, Pop Culture Detective and Hbomberguy consider themselves
Feminists.
Reminds me of a horrible young adult book called Tiger Lily I read recently. Made it out so that the main girl was practically 'a man in a female body', then all the 'other girls' are pathetic with 'fragile, flexible curves' that can't do anything. The author was basically saying that unless girls are practically tr*ns men, they're just stuffy joykills who can't do anything. Made me want to barf.
So true.
On the contrary, feminism is bout society learning to revalue the feminine and femininity. It's mainstream society that posits masculinity above femininity. Feminism is just pointing that out. It's not condoning it.
@@StrongImaginationA well said. I've learned hard over the years that Feminism is too broad and has broadened to include lives and cultures of different women and from different ages and generations. In both for better or for worse, but hopefully true feminists must look into this movement with an objective, empathetic and critical eye.
Just so you know, Men also go through that identity crisis of not knowing how masculine they should be, or if it's okay to be masculine and when. The mechanics may be different but we have a lot in common.
That's because every culture and historical period disagrees over how men and boys should behave, thinking of masculinity as public social acts, rather than a constant, body-based inner identity.
Eren Yeager!!!
People should read Berserk.
Just be you.
We all are trying to find our place
Starting at 16 I developed an eating disorder. I would have 6 month perios of restriction and "recovery" (in all actuality I was just pendulum swinging from one extreme to another) this happened so many times and I thought it would never end. Then, all of the sudden a year or so ago, something changed. I started embracing my femininity instead of ignoring/hiding from it like I had my whole life. I learned about personal grooming, how to do my makeup/hair and style outfits, I also am just now learning skills that I should've learned long ago about cleaning, cooking, finance handling, etc. I also grew to embrace feminine aspects of my personality, kindness, gentleness, creativity, performance, intelligence, subtlety, and an intense desire to create/nuture/protect. I used to be ashamed of these aspects of my personality and tried to hide them, but now that I really know who I am and am embracing that I am naturally very feminine, I feel a confidence I've never felt before and I feel absolutely no desire to binge or restrict my food intake. Obviously it's only been a bit over a year, but I think this change has really made me turn a corner. I've never been so happy with who I am, I feel I've finally accepted myself.
So many years on Tumblr had convinced me that femininity was vapid and shallow, and that wanting to be a mother/ wife meant you hated women and wanted us to be oppressed, or that you were stupid and incapable of doing something "better". And that, I say, is BS.
Lovely video!
so happy to hear you grew comfortable in your own skin and no longer feel guilty about who you are
Creativity and intelligence, which are correlated, aren't feminine or masculine traits per say. The average intelligence in men and women is the same. Sorry for nitpicking this, but the implication of intelligence being exclusively a feminine trait made my blood boil. I wholeheartedly agree with you, that aforementioned feminine traits are important for a balanced persona. Not just for women but also for men.
Good story, but one thing doesn't fit? "I learned about personal grooming, how to do my makeup/hair and style outfits. . ." What. Those things aren't inherent to being a women? Aren't those the superficial parts that people think they can just 'take on'? I hate makeup/fashion because they are just industries that want your money and I'm pretty sure I'm still feminine.
@@kdog3334 I think either 'side' taking the 'good' traits for themselves can come off as insulting. And sometimes these lists are a little arbitrary!
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This is probably why I love those historical romance fantasy webcomics, they have strong female lead that relies more on her wits and charm rather than leading an army on the front lines. I just love the idea that women can be capable in other things, just so much more than what they want us to be.
I think teenagers in general are accused of being annoying all the time. I mean teenage boys are stereotyped as being prone to vandalism, alcoholism, anger issues, general stupidity etc.
I kind of agree they are. I was a teenager once and Oh boy I was so much annoying.
Alcoholism would be pretty universal
I was a teenage boy and I was annoying and stupid as fuck as well.
@@DmitryChmelyov that's not really my point
another thing to remember about Galadriel is that she is a mother at the time of the show, having married Celeborn in the first age and her daughter was born very early in the second age.
I am commenting here before seeing the whole video so if it comes up later my apologies
One thing Galatea brought up I agreed with completely. Motherhood is really degraded and reduced to “mothers are only wombs to carry a child.” Terminator: Dark Fate is the best example of that. They tried to make it all feminist by saying that the new chick is the savior of the world. She’s not just the mother of the hero who saves the world. And by doing that they ironically diminished the role of mothers. Sarah Connor didn’t just birth the hero. She guided John Connor and raised him to be a hero. But the new Terminator movie does Sarah Connor a huge disservice.
@@janhavi1977 RIGHT? I don't know much about terminator, but the fact that female characters wanting to be mothers, or simply having children is seen as taking away their agency, when male characters having kids isn't seen the same way at all!
@Stinging Cake that is explained fairly easy: In Western Society your agency is pretty much gone the moment you become a mother. The Expectation to drop everything else and to just be a care-machine is very strong whilst framed as a thing that doesn‘t need any societal help, as if „motherhood“ is something that get‘s inherited with the shape of your hooha and runs on it‘s own. And yes choosing the „fate“ to be a mother seems pretty crazy in that framework. Nobody expect that from a father.
@@CisForTrans Because men are better at providing and women better domestic keepers. It's an expectation based on 60.000 years of biological efficiency. Deal with it.
“The reason Galadriel doesn’t have a sword is because she doesn’t need one.”
Perfect reason why Amazon’s Galadriel sucks!
Amazons galadriel is tolkiens galadriel if you actually read his books
@@ThatKid22101 Not really; for one thing, you are thinking of the wrong source material: the passage used to rationalize and justify her portrayal in the series is found in a letter addressed to a woman and in which she is described as an Amazon in her youth (ironically, in context), but the reference specifically addresses her attitude and participation in athletic events; at no point does Tolkien suggest or imply she was a warrior, because people mistakenly assume the term refers expressly to warrior women, rather than a mythical culture of independent, free-minded women in general who also happened to have warriors because they only allowed women in their midst to such lengths as sending away their boys in exile to their fathers, in the converse way that people mistakenly tie Viking to an entire people when it was actually a practice/profession.
In other words, Tolkien said that Galadriel was wilder in her youth and desirous of free-spiritedness and what-not, and that she wore her hair high and took part in sports; he does not once say she was a brazen warrior or the like.
@@ThatKid22101 How long has it been since Amazon bought you? What was the promised price?
@@ThatKid22101 Since you're so familiar with the source material, would you mind quoting the part or parts that portray Galadriel as a warrior? Having read nearly all of his works more than once, I can't recall any such thing, but my memory isn't what it once was.
Did you somehow get a sneak preview of the entire first season already?
The exact moment I gave up on modern feminism:
A friend of mine posted on FB about how happy it makes her to cook a fresh batch of peanut butter cookies for her man and have it ready for him for the moment he gets home from work.
Because of that post a group of feminists attacked her. Male Feminsits calling her BF all the bad words and female feminsts saying she is setting women back hundreds of years. All this because of posting about how she chooses to do something nice for the man she loves.
She called me crying after the 14 hours of harassment, because she knows I spent more time In those circles and asked me if she was a bad person for baking Fing cookies!
That's when I gave up on modern feminism and it's gotten worse over the years.
That's honestly all I wish to do my man. I've always wanted to be a stay-at-home mom and I've felt like it was wrong to wish that. I've had to spend quite a number of years undoing a fear of men that, I'm fairly certain, was instilled on me by feminist propaganda in most media. I've never forgiven feminism for this. I'm quite happy to have stumbled across Galatea's channel. It's like breathing a sigh of relief.
@@Frutticattygirl I was raised by a single mother in a very Male oriented smaller town. I have seen the power and strength of womanhood. This modern day feminism is trying so hard to put women back into little boxes and labels that it is truely infuriating.
@@Dogapillar4Lyfe I think media plays a huge role in doing that shit and has been for quite a few decades. It's severely skewered the importance/value of both the feminine and masculine and neglects that we need both, while also not denigrating either one.
If anyone has the view that masculinity is being overvalued and femininity undervalued and visa versa then, imo, media played a big role in skewering that view.
Masculinity and femininity are like yin and yang, we need both and we have both inside us, to varying degree.
@@Frutticattygirl couldnt agree more! We are different because we build each other up!
@@Dogapillar4Lyfe Exactly. Both genders have something different to bring to the table, because both are different and yet quite alike in some ways. We compliment each other. Instead of finding what divides us, we should find what brings us together, what we have in common.
'I'm not angry, just disappointed... that's a lie, I'm f***ing furious' is such a summary of my current mood towards most things!
Also the new Galadriel looks so similar to Eowyn! A character that was so wonderfully written in the trilogy. So like in my eyes this new character will have to face up against those two character, rather than just the Galadriel.
I hope they've written her well, I just really doubt it
@@theauthenticobserver I really doubt it a lot too! The only small amount of hope I have is that they kept a lot of the creative teams from the original saga!
Ironically enough, Eowyn later finds out she's not into that tough girl shit and just settles down and becomes a mother. So she's actually more of deconstruction of the tough girl persona, and I do think there is some truth to it. Dont get me wrong, some woman can absolutely be tough girls, but I think most women would be happier NOT being that, even if they think it will make them happy.
@@voxlknight2155 I think Eowyn just wanted to enjoy Middle Earth's peace and marrying Farimir. She already killed the head Nasgul, she can get all the dresses, food and flowers she wants.
She completed the tough girl mission. She looked death in the eyes and almost died. She got the scare of her life and is allowed to find a path less dangerous. Now, she could have become a mercenary if the fire of her fury wasn't satisfied, but that is not qhy she was angry and took to weapons. She did her for her country, because Rohan needed her (dispite the men not realizing it) and she wanted to do her part. She has nothing to prove to other feminists that hate women, so she did what she felt like doing and became the lady of the Ithilien (a land that needed much work and care, her hands weren't idle).
This woman woke up and chose violence against the modern world's mindset.
Thank you.
it's that mindset that makes us go forward
@@xXAkitokunXx Yep, and the depression & suicide rates along with us.
Well these are no "women" or "men" traits lol. There are in the thier nature neutral. In the nature u use all your traits to survive. Who make femininity is inferior are men btw
@@gggg-hq4td ofc not because these people stucked in the traditional genders roles ofc not bc female have always been alone and only now they realize this point. Traditional genders roles are problem
@@dromdart3563 The problem is that the modern world makes the people who like traditional gender roles (feminine women, masculine men) feel bad and ashamed because they don't fit new gender roles. A woman can be a 'girlboss', a man can be a 'femboy' but at the same time men can be competitive and women can be gentle.
This actually made me emotional. There’s something so special about femininity and I’m only now learning this for myself because my teenage years were spent with me shunning all things feminine. So this was refreshing and was something I needed to hear so thank you for this valuable video ❤️
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Your comment made me emotional
More women need to stand up against the misogynistic Queen Bees and Mean Girls of feminism who are threatened by feminine women, mostly because they are terrible at being women themselves.
*shunning the superficially feminine
Nothing wrong with being femine most company's want you to hate yourself so you buy the product thinking it will what was never broken
39:40 "Isn't beauty just life celebrating itself?"
Holy shit, that's going to be in my head for the next week. What a great fucking quote....
That’s deep on a spiritual level, love it
Is that one of Galatea's or from the Dead Poet's Society?
Vulnerability is what allows us to connect with others on a deeply human level. Without vulnerability we could never share what makes us relate to someone else's pain and help them see that they aren't alone, or provide actual support and comfort. It is an essential part of our being from the moment we're born until the moment we die, just as essential as love and rationality and logic. Without vulnerability, you cut yourself off from a piece of human nature. It hinders your growth as a person and your ability to form social connections as a whole. You can't have real friends, you can't feel close with your family, and you certainly can't find a romantic partner to spend your life with. In my opinion, when people refuse to let themselves be vulnerable, it's essentially like cutting off a limb or blinding oneself. A self-inflicted handicap brought on by trauma both big and small. If you can never open yourself back up, you'll never be able to truly experience what it means to live and be happy.
Sad how Feminism fell from Grace,
partially validly so, partially not valid.
Just sayin': Some of the most educated, warm People on the Internet,
like Emma Thorne, Pop Culture Detective and Hbomberguy consider themselves
Feminists.
You get it! You hit the nail on the head!
Do I have to be happy
This is why I really like Mel Medarda in Arcane. She doesn't have a single fight scene at all. She's got a highly feminine figure and style. And yet she's extremely powerful and confident--cause she's a freaking scheming politician. Could she take anyone in a fight? No. But she's the type who wouldn't need to because she'd probably charm and sweet talk herself out of any fight that came her way.
It made me happy to see such a feminine character being prominently featured in such a new show. Glad at least SOME writers are representing strong AND feminine women.
I agree with just about everything in your video except your dig at Snow White.
Sleeping Beauty, sure. She is absolutely whiny and weak. It's kinda the point of the story, admittedly, because the main theme is supposed to be about what happens when you overprotect your kids. They grow up brittle and weak and easily destroyed by just a prick of a finger. So yeah, I get why they made her that way, but I don't hafta like her character.
But Snow White is VERY different. I am convinced people only dislike her because of her Betty Boop style voice. She was only fourteen in the movie. Lemme say that again: FOURTEEN. She escapes an assassination attempt by her own step mother, is forced to flee into unfamiliar wilderness without anyone to help her, she strikes up a mutually beneficial deal with the locals in order to survive, and does all of that while overcoming her fear and sadness after such a big traumatic event in her life. I mean, just imagine how scared and sad YOU would be if your mother figure intentionally tried to kill you. At FOURTEEN. Get real. Weak? Please. She's far from it.
Mel was actually my favorite character, she exuded power while being absolutely stunning
💯 agree with this.......there is nothing wrong with being feminine.
That's because Arcane is well written and doesn't use identity politics as a crutch.
Perhaps, it's because Disney Princesses are based on pre-feminist fairy tales, adapted by a non-feminist man in the '30s-50s. Feminist material requires feminist writers, such as Jessica Amanda Salmonson, Ursula K. Le Guin, Charlotte Perkins Gillman, etc.
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I'll have to disagree with you there. I'm of the opinion that good quality female characters can be written by anybody, not just feminists.
there is so much of hate towards femininity. i dont know if this trend will go away cause its being going on for years, this trend that always makes feminine women all masculine just to say girl power will never go. im glad more people are speaking about this.
I tink the transgender movement will ironically help women to value their innate nature apart from the biology of men. There is hope.
@@SaneAsylum wait a minute. The trans movement is nothing but a detriment to my generation. Read Helena Kerschner's story that J. K. Rowling posted. It's not unique. It's the scourge of my whole childhood. It's tragic how many girls come into it because of misunderstandings of femininity and masculinity compounded by a complete lack of pushback or understanding of why they come to their conclusions.
@@lunalee3021 What I meant was that because of the issue, women will better learn to value what is uniquely theirs and learn to stop comparing themselves to men in physical ways (because transvestite athletes have a unfair advantage biologically in many things uniquely suited to male testosterone driven physiology). So right or wrong (I think transvestites taking up women's spaces is wrong. They should either have their own or be content with what nature blessed them with), the feminist movement will be forced to redefine itself because of this (bad) thing. I was in no way saying that the transvestite movement into women's spaces was a good thing. But as the species are so often found to be doing, I believe that women will make the proverbial lemonade from it nonetheless.
@@SaneAsylum Oh ok, I get what you're saying now
women hate it more than anyone else, bruv
I LOVE THIS. Let us celebrate femininity just as much as roughness and boyishness. Both are valid and good. My only nitpick is the implied exclusivity of a nurturing personality in women only. I want to also celebrate the incredibly nurturing, loving men in my life, who are also invested in the beauty of life and its need of care and love and gentleness. We shouldn't gatekeep these traits away from them to put firmly into the basket of femininity.
I actually see no issue in associating nurturing with femininity. It's no worse than associating physical strength, emotional fortitude, and guardianship with masculinity. Men can have feminine traits, women can have masculine traits, it might follow broad trends based on sex but it's not a bright line rule.
Men can have feminine traits, such as nurturing. It's when men deny their femininity and try to suppress it that it becomes an issue. All men and women need to balance their masc/fem energies and not suppress them, it can lead to toxicity otherwise. Just like there is toxic masculinity there is also toxic femininity (manipulation, coercion, etc)
Calling it feminine doesn't mean it is only found in women. Men have feminine traits too. Feminine and masculine traits exist on a spectrum in all of us.
Your definition of "nurturing man" instant brings The Doctor from Doctor Who to mind. For fifty nine years, he was the "same" traveling alien in love with the universe.
But guess what, they made him a woman now and use it as an excuse for it being their most nurturing and caring incarnation.
Someone is celebrating masculinity somewhere?
I guess I couldn't hear over the shreeks of the pseudo feminists screaming "ToXIc mAsCuliNity!!
Dear god, can we just collectively agree that any sort of prescriptive ideology about gender (particularly when pushed by some mega-corporation's marketing team) can die in a fire?
"Gender" is an insane and inherently dehumanizing concept, I doubt you're ready for that talk yet though
i stan
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elaborate, please?
Hundreds of thousands of career feminists just shrieked in horror and agony with your comment. How are those freeloaders supposed to make a living now without mooching off of all society's institutions while spreading and normalizing misandry and widening the gap and distrust between men and women?
As a man, I try to take my cues from Christ, and he wasn’t afraid to express vulnerability. Like if literal God isn’t afraid to cry when appropriate, then neither should I.
I always liked that about him; all the drama in NT is literally because he just walks around talking to *everyone* and *anyone* and not giving a fuck when people get offended by him just talking. Never picks a fight, just let's everyone make an ass of their own insecurities
Hope you don’t go around killing pigs for no reason like Christ…or ranting about how hand washing is evil…or destroying fig trees for no reason…
Thank you for posting this. So many folks never think or even consider the deeper and inspirational parts of our faith, especially regarding stuff like you just pointed out.
@@orboakin8074 no prob man
@@killgriffinnow First off, I get the sentiment. I don't trust any church in particular. But I do think people both within and without the religion sell these stories short. It's exactly because they're ambiguous that i find them interesting. Here's my take on the pig incident.
"Legion" killed the pigs. Key context, the demon was in a person, Jesus told them to GTFO, the demon said "I know you're the son of God, if you make me leave I'll go kill those pigs over there," and Jesus was like "if you must that's your business, just leave this person." And the demon did exactly that and used the pigs as its punching bags because it was pissed that Jesus showed up.
The story is real ambiguous about how good or bad any of this was. In the story they include how this bit Jesus in the ass because the pigs incident (to the Jews) proved that his talk about spirits was real, but they saw the demon's (bregudging) obedience as Jesus himself being a king demon.
Now if Jesus had said "leave the person AND the pigs alone" and the demon had agreed, no one would've heard about the story. Another thing is pigs in Jewish culture are a banned animal which added an element of Jesus' authority being ungodly. It's not explained why Jesus doesn't argue for the pigs as well, if he just doesn't like pigs or if his authority is very limited, or simply if he's trying to make sure that the demon (who's still very in control of the victim he's trying to save) doesn't suddenly smash themselves into a rock if he says the wrong thing. It's not clear.
As for blame, as the story goes it's on the demon and Jesus was a hostage negotiator who had to pick his priorities carefully and chose to save the person above all else.
Curious to know about the hand washing thing and the fig tree, don't recall those off the top of my head.
If your referring to where he mentions "if a fig tree bears no fruit, cut it down" that's a farming metaphor. The fig farmers that he was speaking to IRL didn't have much philosophy vocabulary, so he drew a simple parallel between what it takes to set your life in order as being the same logic they use every day to keep their fig trees in order. Sick trees (habits) get cut down to make room for healthy trees (habits) so that the whole field (body) doesn't get abandoned by the farmer for being too sickly. He's saying if you understand the concept of pruning, you have what you need to one day rid yourself of addiction, debt, adultery, and hypocrisy.
Honestly, throughout the whole video I thought of Sophie from the “Haul’s Moving Castle” and Maria from “Little White Horse” (both of them from the books and adaptations) that taught little me that wielding a cool sword and not wearing pretty dresses are not really necessary to have amazing adventures and being able to influence the world around me. It didn’t really stop me from hating myself in teenage years, but softened the blow a lot, letting me be content in a fantasy that it’ll be over in some time and I’ll be okay just like them.
And yes, being able to stop someone with one look is WAY cooler than the sword, what’s wrong with them.
I love both of those books, and Sophie is one of my favourite characters of all time. So down to earth, no-nonsense and brave, and totally feminine and caring at the same time. Opposite of a pushover. She has an iron backbone and I love her
Oh yes, THE Look. I admired it when Aunt Vivian did it with a bunch of big men, and squealed with delight whenever I have seen it.
i instantly thought of sofie too, she saves howl by softening his heart.
@@Emelllll64 More importantly, she saves herself by taking risks and being genuine.
Studio Ghibli has wonderful feminine protagonists.
Galadriel of the novel is a fantastic character. Kind, feminine, elegant and selfless. She knew that Lothlorien would fade when the One Ring was destroyed and still let Frodo go on his journey anyway, literally giving up that kingdom for Middle-Earth.
Her kindness to Gimli is amazing and Cate Blanchett was perfect for her, beautiful and graceful.
Absolutely hit the nail on the head here. Apparently Hollywood's idea of equality is making the female characters as bland and one-dimensional as the male ones.
Or making the plot about periods (turning red)
@@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman equal doesn't mean same it means equally valuable 🙄
@@Amy-ti1pm Equal means Equal, not valuable. Value has nothing to do with the discussion points you make when you say that.
No no no.. you forgot that they need as well to neuter the male ones alongside it.
@@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman It's just not what women are asking for. This is where the miscommunication is coming from. Women are not trying to be seen as the same as men, we're asking to be equally valued for our differences. A pound of oranges is not the same as a pound of apples. But they are both equally pound. 2+2+2 = 3+3. Things can be different but equal. EDIT: or I should say femininity and masculinity. Women can receive more respect if they act masculine, the point is that femininity should be seen as equally valuable to masculinity.
As a teenage girl, this video felt like receiving a firm but affectionate lecture from an aunt or similar figure 😅 thank you for being so supportive of us young ladies and our femininity ❤️
As a young adult I'm glad teenagers are seeing and hearing this sort of message. Wokeness and feminism made me a Christian. So good for you!
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I honestly hadn’t even contemplated this aspect of growing up for girls…. How terrifying to suddenly realize you are a lamb surrounded by wolves. You go from looking at adults as protectors, to noticing they are wanting to take you for themselves. As a guy, it’s like the complete opposite. If older women were suddenly checking you out you would be over the moon!
I’m so glad you brought that up. I’m glad I learned something today.
It’s also important to remember that this realization often comes at around 11-14 yrs old. I was only 12 the first time I got catcalled. I know a few women like catcalls, but to me all I feel is complete fear and danger. Before I had even gotten to high school I was already afraid of strange men
Listening to this part made me recall this exact moment in my life. I was 14 years old walking with my parents and a man looked me up and down with such a strange look (now I know it was full of lust), that I have never seen before. It scared me terribly and I wanted to hide u see the rock.
Yeah, when I was around 14-15 there was this middle aged dude coming up to me on the bus and starting to tell me how pretty I was... It was scary as hell, and I ended up getting off that bus at the first opportunity.
@@saddlerrye6725 disgusting
It's more terrifying to be thought of as a wolf. If you consider me a threat, it makes you want to eliminate me as one - no wonder that the majority of women are such raging misandrists if that's how they think.
I feel like the whole problem is that everything 'typically' female has never been truly valued in society. At least, that has been my experience from a very young age. I have seen female interests like make-up, dressing up etc. being mocked. I learned that being emotional, caring, and sensitive is seen as weak. Motherhood and being a housewife are ridiculed. Making out a man for a woman is an insult. Buttt, I finally notice a re-found appreciation for the strength and power of femininity. That also helps me in finding value in being a woman. So, happy days.
That's is true. I wonder when did we women started to think that a man being ridiculed for being woman-like was an insult to US personally. I mean, men and women are SO DIFFERENT it's just obvious that one that looks and behaves like the other would be called out. That doesn't mean in the slightest that the other is worst. I also grew up thinking that being female or feminine was a disgrace. That being boy-like was the way to go. And how much suffering did it bring!
There are forces at play that want to tear down and deconstruct everything that is traditional and natural, especially the family and everything that contributes to its creation and upkeep, because they think they can recreate a new, better human and society.
It isn't that society would not have valued femininity, it is that you didn't listen to the people who did. They get labeled and dismissed as Right Wingers and Misogynists and whatever other slur and buzzword the Feminists and their Communist overlords throw at them.
When I say you didn't listen, I don't mean that as a personal attack on you, but you were born into a world where all the indoctrination and all the propaganda goes into that direction and we all have been trained to see as evil and outdated what is actually natural and healthy.
The following will look like a huge non sequitur, but it is on topic:
I don't like Weeaboos. Those Manga and Anime fans annoy the shit out of me and I strongly dislike the tropes of that art form. In an attempt to understand "my enemy" I looked into it and what I found was young, sad men who watch this stuff predominately for one thing: the "waifus" and the anime girls with cat ears and all that shit. And no, it isn't really about cartoon porn. What they are into is the schmaltzy cuteness and the squealing and the high pitched voices and all that. They crave femininity and they watch that stuff because they can't get it anywhere else.
It is like methadone to a heroin addict.
The point being, it isn't men who disrespect or demonize femininity. Men just get blamed for everything.
@@TrangleC never did I blame men in my comment.
@@2xXaylaXx2 I didn't say you did. It is the go-to in general though.
But let's dissect this a little.
What or whom did you mean when you said that "society" never valued feminine traits?
@@TrangleC the men and women that make up society. And btw, what do you consider a natural and traditional role for a women? I'd prefer a society where anyone with either gender can take on a role that best fits their own needs, whatever that may be, instead of having to fit in some role that is culturally forced upon them.
I've been trying to articulate this point so many times to people. The whole "Girls are just as good at as boys and can be even better at it" mindset actually devalues the truly amazing accomplishments of most women throughout history and places all the value on things that men do tend to be better at. Men, in general, are better at fighting than women, and it has value- but it is not the most valuable attribute that a person can have. It is not more valuable than compassion, or healing, or hospitality... but here is our society trying to turnt he world upside down
I will also say this in defense of Snow White. She was a 16 year old girl who spent her youth working. She had never been into the forest until she was taken there TO BE MURDERED! What saved her was the Huntsman seeing the true, pure, goodness and femininity in her and setting her free, which cost him his life. So her crying and sobbing at how terrified she was... pretty understandable!
She found the Dwarfs and won their loyalty and love not just by being beautiful, but by caring for them and also COMMANDING them! They couldn't eat until they washed up. She worked hard and ruled the home. When she was poisoned the Dwarfs attacked the Queen who was far more powerful than them because that was how powerful their love for Snow White was.
She has gotten a bad reputation but honestly I would not call her weak at all. After all that happened to her she retained her goodness. Naive? Yes, but she is still a teenager...
Yesterday i was watching a Star Trek video of all things about the new series and they were talking about the recasting of Nurse Chapel from the original series. And one of them said they doubted she would "just be a nurse" in the new series because that would make her just the assistant to the male doctor.
I was flabbergasted. Nursing is such a bigger job than doctor's assistant. But because it's seen as a caring and nurturing "feminine" role people have been taught to assume it to be lesser than that of the doctor. Nurses are the backbone of the medical professions. They conduct medical tests, they do health assessments, they go out with paramedics to accident scenes where there are a lot of casualties, they treat injuries and do diagnostics, but all we get taught they do on television is assisting doctors and changing beds like it's still 1890...
The idea that it should be seen as lesser for a woman to be a nurse than a doctor is sheer ignorance. But, again, it ties into this idea that femininity is lesser...
This! I work in a warehouse for a living. The men are better suited for the heavy lifting while my work ethic and attention to certain details makes me able to do things the men easily overlook. If i have issues i ask the men to help out, i cant always be wonder woman or Superwoman because if i did, I'd get hurt far more often physically, so i have to learn to use what I already have on hand.
@@nagillim7915 My mother is a nurse and hates how people say shit like that.
The history you speak about includes women who fought in wars disguised as men and did, indeed, do as good a job, or better, than the men. When anyone makes a generalization the this gender is better at such and such than the other other gender, you will be proven wrong. No matter what you choose, there will be incidences that prove you wrong.
"The lack of them taking charge of anything in their lives." Saying that while referring to Snow White is kinda silly. She was just run off from her home, barely saved from murder, and thrust into a dangerous world to fend for herself. Her fear in the forest is completely justified, and it makes complete sense that she would exaggerate the danger around her (i.e. imagining scary faces in the trees), and that that would be overwhelming, especially since she is so vulnerable.
But what happens next? She notices something weaker than herself, and takes on a nurturing role right away. She brushes herself off, and gets to work doing what she knows. She brings order to the Dwarves' household, and encourages an industrious and generous attitude in the wild animals, which in the end leads to her eventual rescue from her evil stepmother, because of the wonderful relationships she nurtured. Disney's Snow White is an excellent example of feminine strength.
Very well said.
Reminded me of something I was just talking to my brother about,why I like a lot of women in the jojo's bizarre adventure series. Araki doesn't just write strong female characters. He writes strong *feminine* characters.
Folks often look back at classical depictions of femininity and act like it is weak and oppressive, but that's quite reductionist. You hit the nail on the head as to why. To maintain a graceful and nurturing spirit, to draw out the gentleness and potentially in a rough world or people, to face to face off against nature and the troubles of life with hope and dignity, that IS strength. Not demonstrated in a traditionally masculine way perhaps, but strength nonetheless.
and it makes even more sense that she’s terribly scared cause while all of that shit is going on she is literally a child, she’s only 14 years old in the story
@Just a Fairy-Story I’d really recommend you watch moderngurlz video “how old are the characters in Snow White?” Tldr - the ages of the characters in Snow White are fabricated and official documents from disneys production have them much closer in age. The “Snow White is 14 and her prince is 31!” thing is basically an internet urban legend that someone invented out of basically thin air.
She is far too powerful
Feminine strength is not nurturing the weak and wait for a prince to save you from danger tho
“You will grow somethink weak, if you are not strong”. THAT might be one of the most inspiring things I have ever heard. Very well put
Watching this in a post Barbie, pink-loving era just makes me happy and I hope it continues!
I'm Eastern Orthodox and St. Hilda of Whitby, a key figure in early Christianity in Britain, is still remembered by us. I know you're very staunchly British, so if you want a few examples of strength without sacrificing femininity you should look at a few of the old Christian saints to come from the Isles.
Abbesses and princesses and many more were known across the Christian world for their wisdom, piety and generosity. Makes for a good rabbit hole to keep you up until 3 AM, and it's good for the soul!
thanks for that one, Whitby's near my neck of the woods so I really should know more about her!
@@theauthenticobserver No worries! And one more comment, especially since how closely it ties into the video: Sorry for the wall of text, but I just want you to know that cliche old-fashioned conservative views on women are actually pretty new.
From a Christian perspective, which ties into European women in history versus other parts of the world, you wouldn't believe the amount of respect and reverence we give to the Virgin Mary, and a lot of it ties into her feminine traits.
We hold her up to be the greatest creation, the pinnacle of mankind (humankind?) for the love, warmth, kindness and goodness she displayed, as well as being the only human ever to not sin. I've only got one icon in my house, and it's of her holding baby Jesus.
And towards the end of her life, it ties into the end of your video - the queen-like authority she commanded was never cold, and held in esteem by the Apostles. Jesus told her that they were now her sons, and told them that she was now their mother. John in particular was entrusted with her well-being after the Crucifixion.
Last point, and apologies again for the long comment: up until the Industrial Revolution, women were just as involved in the community as men were. They worked on farms, helped in trades, managed households, reared children, etc. Women at home being docile is a largely Victorian thing, a result of women staying at home while men went off to the new-fangled factory jobs.
Historically they might have been second in command to husbands as far as the final word went, but they never house slaves.
A lot of saints were just ordinary men and women, so reading their life stories preserved across 2000 years has a way of putting things into perspective.
P.S. It's Lent so I have to be extra preachy, I'm sorry once again. Great video as always, by the way!
Women saints are amazing! I'm Anglican now but grew up evangelical. I think that evangelical Christians really miss out on the beauty of understanding and following the saints. Personally I think that one of the reasons they tend to be misogynistic is because they don't have a process of honoring saints, particularly female saints, and don't see the unique ways God has used women throughout the centuries.
Believing in and living in the communion of the saints has been very beneficial for me. Some of my favorite saints are The Blessed Virgin, St. Perpetua and Felicity, and St. Hildegard von Bingen. Perpetua and Felicity are especially inspiring to me since they were friends in prison, with one being a noblewoman and the other a slave, and both were recent mothers, with Felicity giving birth days before her martyrdom. Perpetua also has some of the earliest writing that can be accredited to a woman. She kept a diary detailing the events and the visions from God she had.
Hi! I'm Catholic and I agree with all your points! strength to endure suffering isn't considered weak for us but a sign of strength. To hold back despite having power to retaliate is a virtue we hold dear especially when seen in male saints and Jesus. To turn the other cheek when slapped (personal offense) but also to defend the weak when they cannot defend themselves, to learn when to fight and when to accept pain. I love Joan of Arc, a simple country girl with no fighting experience tasked to command armies of men and I also love young St. Maria Goretti, who had so much love that she even prayed for the man who tried to rape her and kill her, so that his soul may be saved and asked her mother to forgive him too. Both are strong women to me because they always did everything with such love for God and neighbor, in whatever form that takes.
Some of those also fought Attila the Hun, defended their convent from peasant revolts and beat male knights, while competing in drag in jousting tournaments, then flashed them, to show that a woman beat them.
Best defense of Galadriel’s book character I’ve seen. Don’t take a divine being and besmirch her with the grime and grit of war. Really beautiful video, thank you
Ever hear of Valkyries? They're war and death goddesses. Like elves, they come from Norse mythology. Marvel movies have one in "Thor: Ragnarok."
@@darlalathan6143 Has nothing to do with Galadriel. Valkeries are still Valkeries. Galadriel is a devine feminine being that will destroy a whole army with grace. Disgraceful to compare her any where close to a Valkerie.
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In fact this ia one of the scenes that I have watched the most hands down from the LoT trilogy. It shows Galadriel flex her power from the influence of the ring for a brief couple of seconds. It was terrifying but at the same time she was beautiful af. She flexed this power without an ounce of masculinity. In fact not one muscle bound man, or wizard with a long grey beard would come near her because she would wreck them.
Women can be strong with their feminine.
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Galadriel is a Noldor elven princess not a Valkyrie. 🤦♀️
@@darlalathan6143 😙bringing up irrelevent points is all you have to say?
I agree with almost everything you stated, but.. I would wonder if you would look again at the old classic Disney princesses of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty again, through a realistic, day to day, lens. They are the young versions of Arwen and Galadriel.
When I was young I related more to the Disney renaissance princesses more. With the exception of Belle, they were unsure who or what they were and wanted to be. They were still figuring things out... like me. But as I did figure these things out and grew older and more confident I came to appreciate and relate to Cinderella, Aurora, and Snow White more.
All three of these so called "weak and passive" princesses have already figured out who they were. Snow White is NOT a victim, she runs, she cries, then she picks herself up, literally says she shouldn't complain, and gets on with it. She's not waiting for the prince to come and save her as she doesn't need to be saved from the Dwarfs. She has faith one day her prince will find her and she'll know love. She wants to be found not saved, there is a difference... but in the mean time she'll work for her living. She also changes the men around her. Grumpy goes from wanting nothing to do with her to leading the others to her rescue and then actively sobbing at her "death".
Cinderella is victimized but does not give in to victimhood. She puts up with the toxic and cruel behavior of those around her, her own family, but never becomes bitter or cruel herself. That is a strength little acknowledged today. Marcus Aurelius said "the best revenge on someone is refusing to be like them". Cinderella embodies this. If she never had a ball or a prince it would not make her any less worthy of those things.
Aurora. Aurora is my hero. She is raised as a sheltered peasant girl, falls in love with a man, is so excited. This is all she ever wanted (how many of us want simply to be happy with little or no expectations)... And then BOOM! She is a princess with duties. For her people and country she leaves everything behind. The man she loves, the life she's know, the future she dreamed of. For what? to wear a crown, marry a stranger, and take on the responsibility of not one, but two, kingdoms. She does it. and realistically does it, not cold heartedly as modern feminists say a woman should, but as a real woman would do it; With a broken heart. She's given a minute to compose herself before is presented to her people and at her lowest and most vulnerable Maleficent, another woman who knows what she's doing, strikes. Maleficent knows this is the time to manipulate her into doing what she wants. I have seen so many young girls fall into this trap. They are struggling with what they want to do and with what they know they must do and a villain will use that to seduce them onto another path that leads to destruction.
Yes, Aurora is saved by true loves kiss, but it is not because she was just waiting around she was just preparing to be the next ruler of her nation. Through no fault of her own she is the inspiration of everything that happens around her. The steady and peaceful eye of the hurricane of events taking place around her. Kind of like a certain elven queen.
If they wanted a back story about Galadriel's youth they should have taken these three as an example. You said it the best, "don't throw the princesses in with the queens", because they aren't queens, yet. Take any Disney princess from the modern era, again with the possible exception of Belle, that would become a Galadriel. I can only see the classic princesses ever developing into that kind of woman.
Sorry about the lengthy rant, but these characters are my darlings, along with Tolkien's women. Many people dismiss their femininity because they claim it is to passive. When the good people around you aspire to be better for knowing you, that is not passiveness, that is power.
Thank you for this, I hate when people dismiss the OG Disney princesses. I personally love and find inspiring how Snow White and Cinderella remain kind and persevere, when the easy thing to do would be to become nasty people.
Thank you for this thoughtful comment :)
I appreciate how you dive deeply into these cases and open my eyes to different perspectives
Wow! A lot to think about. You have said a lot and I hope she reads it.
Mrs. Midwest has an amazing video on her channel about the Disney Princesses titled “How to Have Disney Princess Energy.” It’s my favorite video ever! Maybe you’d enjoy it?
See, Susan, this here is what YT comments are at its best. And by using one wrong word it could have been shadowbanned or deleted, in the name of what?
Thank you Parable Films, that was an insightful piece.
I don't remember how I found this video, but I'm really, really glad I did. I'm a teenage girl, on the upper end, and it's very true being a teenage girl nowadays is incredibly difficult. I can painfully relate to feeling weak or looked down upon or pathetic on the rare occasion I feel brave enough to express liking more feminine things... which I have found myself liking recently as I've gotten older (and grown out of my tomboyish phase I've had since I was a little girl).
An example: I feel like people are judging me when I wear more feminine clothing, like dresses or skirts, or when I say I don't care all that much about a career - I would be 100% content with being a mother and having a loving husband (and maybe doing some writing on the side - would never want to give that up). It really is degrading to hear in the media constantly that women should have jobs, should be more masculine, should support all women (and if you don't support trans women you're a bigot), and if you don't you're not being a good enough woman, you're not being a modern woman, you're old fashioned and not up with the times - you're not "modern" enough and just - just -
It's *so* frustrating.
But really, thank you for writing and making this video. It truly did give me some confidence that wanting to be more feminine is ok, and it isn't old fashioned or unreasonable or stifling to want to be like that. Knowing that someone else has felt uncomfortable in her own skin yet still wanted to be a woman is truly inspiring, and really does give me hope - as cheesy as that might sound.
Thank you
Do u not support trans women and girls? *Says the concerned trans non-binary child (well technically a teenager but still)*
Here actually: if you are a jerk to trans women because they are trans (or being like they are not women ect) you are a bigot. If you don’t actively support trans women I mean… welcome to the majority. I mean you should, trans women- especially black and indigenous trans women are some of the most vulnerable people out there. People are really freaking terrible to them it’s scary to be a trans person much less a POC trans WOMAN rn. Also being trans while going through puberty- it is not a nice time. It takes normal puberty for cis non intersex folks and makes it 10 x worse. It’s awful, and absolutely traumatizing.
@@pheonixdoesviolin4364 If they're real trans women and girls, yes. I believe everyone has a right to happiness, and if being happy and comfortable for them is to pursue being transgender, that's totally fine; I see no problem in that.
However, I would like to inquire why you wrote a massive paragraph on my comment (as a reply) and then deleted it?
I read this and wanted to show my support and say I’m glad you feel better. I hope that you continue to feel better and more confident. Wish you well.
The big companies especially push for the narrative that a stay-at-home woman is an "oppressed individual with internalized misogyny", because you cannot capitalize over a non-working individual: you don't produce, you don't help them make more money, a woman who freely decides not to invest in a career is an enemy to the market.
Feminism is a useful tool for the capitalistic system.
Also, I’m a teacher and thank you so much for mentioning “the kids are not ok” it’s not. It’s only becoming more of a mess because adults are bringing their adult problems to kids
When I was in highschool, I tried to embody that tough, action-hero type, take-no-shit kind of female persona, but now that I've grown and matured, I've really started to see the power and the value of femininity and I've tried to embody it more. It's disgraceful how "traditional" femininity is viewed in the culture and so mistreated.
Another strong feminine example would be Julie Andrews. I know you brought up The Sound of Music but she also played Eliza Doolittle, Mary Poppins and the Queen in The Princess Diaries off the top of my head. I’ll try to think of other real life examples but Julie is a big one.
Yes! I immediately thought of her as well!
Audrey Hepburn played Eliza Doolittle
@@elentiyaashryver702 My Fair Lady was actually a Broadway play before being turned into the movie, and in the Broadway version, Julie Andrews played Eliza Doolittle alongside Rex Harrison. But Audrey Hepburn was chosen for the movie because Julie Andrews wasn't considered an established actress. Fun fact, she got cast as Mary Poppins instead, and won an Oscar for Best Actress!
@@katiemaine6994 oh ok sorry I didn't know that's cool
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"If you can grow, and sustain life, and care for things, that is magic. It is valuable and important."
It interests me you bring this up in a video stemming from the (mis)treatment of Tolkien's work, as this is a sentiment present throughout Lord of the Rings as favorable and good, not just of women, but in general. Everything and everyone depicted as the higher representations of good in Middle Earth stem from growing and sustaining life, and caring for things. The notion of these as naturally feminine traits are reflected as powerful aspects in men in Lord of the Rings.
The reason Gandalf becomes the White, highest of the order, is because he never strayed from his purpose which was centered on caring for others.
Mercy over judgement in regards to Gollum, from Bilbo's actions, reinforced by Gandalf, to Fordo's actions is born of compassion for others.
A trait that indicates Aragorn is fit to be king is that he has hands of healing - that would be skill to nurture life rather than his skill to take it in battle.
And then, of course, we have Faramir's statement: "Your land must be a realm of peace and content, and there must gardeners be in high honour."
I'd even arguably extend this to Tom Bombadil and the Ents as they are still caretakers of life in the forests.
These are all things Tolkien drew from and included that stem from the caring of things and nurturing life as being of value and strength. If one accepts these traits as inherently feminine, one could argue that Tolkien portrayed them as positive elements of strength, even when shown by men.
If an "inherently feminine" aspect is a sign of strength in men within a work, why would it need be downplayed or removed from depictions of women, particularly in the same setting?
Didn't Gandalf basically follow the goddess of the home, simple life, everyday joys and so forth? Basically the reason he brought the Hobbits with him, the physical representation of the everyday homebody.
@@jailenecornejo Tolkien appreciated nature, so in that regard, yes. Though Gandalf was essentially an angel equivalent to Middle-Earth's God equivalent what with Tolkien being a devout Catholic and all.
Gandalf followed four Valar, but he was drawn more to Nienna, the Lady of mourning, pity, and compassion.
I feel like because femininity is more subtle and emotional, mental, and abstract (re: not physical), it is more difficult to understand and portray by a greater number of people. I mean, sure there is feminine beauty, but the feminine stereotypes are all about how women are more sensitive, they have a greater understanding of emotions, they are smarter, they are more manipulative, they speak with more social nuances, etc. etc. (yes, broad brush strokes of stereotypes here), so a larger amount of femininity is slower-boiling and not immediately observable like the classic stereotypes of masculinity are. Aggressiveness, willingness to action, or even objectivity, straightforwardness - all what are more stereotypically masculine - have immediate consequences and effects. This is both easier to portray in stories and also easier to understand. That's why "strong" often defaults to the masculine tendencies, while feminine strength is misunderstood, dismissed or ignored. It's harder to explain the benefits of being feminine strength when you can see the male hero punch the bad guy in the face and solve the conflict in the space of one movie.
(putting my thoughts down before I finish the video. Thank you for the video - this is a topic that's much needed elaboration!)
Yeah. The gentle/subtle actually requires patience most importantly, a willingness to masquerade and other essential training traits found in masculine stories like growth, resilience and determination. People want to be served NOW so more subtle traits are seen as pathetic. Why wait? Why be patient? Why allow others the embarass you and take the subtle/passive ground? Reminds me of the way Cinderella is viewed
Editing because I didn't see the "women are smarter" part and I disagree with that. What makes women smarter than men?
On the What is Femininity section, there's always been something that annoyed me. It's true that a lot of people will say "kind" or "gentle" in response to "what is femininity" but the way they say it is always as though it's a weakness. The same goes for words like "soft," "vulnerable," or "submissive." There's a lot I'd like to say about some of these terms, but on being kind... Do people realize how hard it is to be genuinely kind and nice? I think some are, now, considering how many hypocritically nice people there are, displayed on social media for all to see. Being genuinely nice requires a lot of patience, hope, and perseverance to keep bouncing back when people take advantage of your niceness; empathy and intelligence to know how and who to be help; and because people will always view you as a doormat, it also requires strength to stand up to bad apples. It's hard as hell being nice, but people just view it as running away and avoiding conflict.
@@terracannon876 Exactly! IT TAKES MUCH INNER STRENGTH and GROUNDNESS TO ENDURE THAT and to work on things you know are valuable to you! It takes Internal strength and validation not external strength and validation. And this is why the Archetype of Strength in Tarot of a woman holding the mouth of a Lion is amazing to me.
Love this comment! Exactly.
@Inland Empire The GMVH says exactly what I was talking about. In the normal distribution of male and female intelligences, men have a greater standard deviation. However, the mean is higher for women. In this comment, I was talking about broad stroke stereotypes, i.e. averages or means.
As an aside, oftentimes "stereotype" or "generalization" is just another word for "the average of a normal distribution with long standard deviations," which is why we all have impressions of one observation but talk to 100 ppl and we can't find an exact example of that observation. Makes talking about these generalizations of men and women difficult.
As for the social nuances, whether they speak with social virtues or not is besides the point. A common example of the manifestation of the social nuances stereotype is, men get straight to the point and say what they mean. If they don't like it, they'll say it. Women will say one thing but in fact mean another because they expect the man to be able to follow the train of thought or to understand the leap in logic, like other women would.
The fact that women trend towards "NPC talking points" in the first place could perhaps be seen as a sign that they're misapplying this natural inclination towards social cues (possibly also because, among other stereotypes, women are more susceptible to social pressures and tend more to agreeing with the mob).
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
- J.R.R. Tolkien
I would like to add about the quality of "Queen" that you talk about. After a bit of thinking I came to the conclusion that you might not realize it but from my point of view you have it.
Yes. ONE THOUSAND TIMES YES. Enough with the superficial portrayal of women as “boss bi*ches”. Good God. I’m so over it. There are so many wonderful, deep, and inspiring feminine archetypes. Of which Lady Galadriel is certainly one. The way that she is absolutely wrecked in the new LotR series…the audacity and level of disrespect!!!! I hope the new LotR series absolutely bombs. The people behind that show are in it for the cash grab and personal glory. Disgusting.
Also, to echo one of your first points, a woman does not need to be more like a man in order to be valuable. This kind of thinking is exactly what woman haters use against us. This is the idea that bred the phrase, “and what do women bring to the table?”. Femininity is not your weakness, ladies. It is your strength!
Actually it's the well-established and popular cultural idea that you cannot value women without devaluing, degrading, denigrating and dehumanizing men (and boys). Established, put into practice and normalized by misandric feminists. A woman DOES need to be a man because men are erased, reduced to humble, sycophantic background servants to message women's egos or monsters to hate and fear.
(I'm not even going into the discussion of the complete normalization and public celebration of female-on-male violence, aggression, brutal treatment, sexual harassment, torture, mutilation, rape and murder - justified or viewed as good entertainment just so long as the target of violence is MALE).
The result? what do women bring to the table? galactic scale entitlement, carefully constructed narcissism and an ego the size of the observable universe.
That's right, I have criticism of women's behavior and attitude and how it's manufactured by a synthetic culture, or in your words, I'm a "women hater".
@@kdog3334 Because they exist.
@@kdog3334 Because they are. You can be a masculine woman, but you have inherent femininity. Just as men can be feminine, but have inherent masculinity.
Deal with it.
Femininity was constructed to keep women submissive. Also Galadriel was a warrior in her past
@@kdog3334 Because that's what happens when you're a sexually dimorphic species instead of all hermaphrodites.
Thank you for this video. I have a 12 year old daughter who started puberty early is struggling with her identity. This has been great help and has given me some insight to what she going through, and how to help her as a father.
We need more female characters in literature and media who can literally make demons and armies cower solely because of the power of her grace, goodness and divinity. Instead we have bland female protagonists with no real flaws, who swing swords on battlefields like pros after just a few days training, whine about how they’re being oppressed by the patriarchy and then fall in love with the toxic men whose sole purpose in life is to tell the girl how GREAT and WONDERFUL she is and how no one on earth deserves her greatness🙄😤 YA has turned into total trash
That reminds me of the mother character in brave before she became a bear. Her feminine power was something that is rarely seen.
It's why I love Kaguya Otsutsuki, she looks to be the very definition of a princess and a goddess, but she's immensely powerful, unfortunately she's mentally unstable
I'd like to point out some cliche anime or at least the fantasy where the when are feminine and yet strong or when they show a goddess they shine and people cant help but bow or stop fighting
Moana did a good job of subverting this new trend, I thought. The entire build up to the climax made you think either she and/or Maui was going to fight Te Ka, and at the last moment it was an act of love and kindness that won. It was a rare example of portraying a female character differently than her male counterpart.
@@mayacollins3447 Merida's mother walks through a room full of brawling Scottish warriors, and EVERYONE simmers down when they see her approach. Even the king doesn't have that kind of authority. It was AMAZING.
When I was a teenage girl I totally felt like this. I had no guidance and no idea what to do with myself and had all of these messages front left, right and centre, telling me that femininity was a negative, while being leered at by men who made me feel uncomfortable, and that being masculine was good; so I naturally became very masculine. I would reject femininity at all costs because to be thought of "as a girl/girly" was so shameful, and so embarrasing, so much so that I was genuinely scared of it. This is not normal, but so many girls have the same experiences as I did. I even see it in my younger sister, who is 21 now, and it makes me sad because she is so obviously insecure in her femininity. She confided in me once that she was jealous of my femininity, a femininity that I didn't even know I had or acknowledged, and that helped to put things into perspective for me.
"while being leered at by men who made me feel uncomfortable"
Correction: leered at by men you find unattractive. Women don't care about "leering" when it's done by men they are attracted to. Please stop being misleading.
@@rodericblack4657 Well yeah, why would I want to be leered at by men I find unattractive? That's basic human instinct. I also didn't want to be leered at by men in general at age 11; which was the age when it first happened since I started puberty at 8.
@@rodericblack4657 It doesn't matter who was leering at her. It was still wrong. She was being objectified and reduced to a sexual object. Don't just belittle what she says. These things have more a negative effect on women than you think.
@@eliesh3833 Except it's not wrong unless the one doing the leering is unattractive. She just admitted that herself. Women should stop saying they don't like it when men do x when what they really mean is they don't like it when ugly men do x.
Also, there's nothing wrong with objectifying people. We all do it, every day, in all sorts of contexts.
You need to stop taking feminist and feminist-influenced types at their word. They never mean what they say.
@@rodericblack4657 Look buddy, I get what your saying but you really don't need to bring red-pill type stuff in here. This is the wrong comment section for it.
Before you lash out at me, know that I do enjoy that type of content for educational purposes. It seems like you're overdosing on it a bit, coming off as bitter and resentful towards women.
Coming out of nowhere with a critique that's not relevant to this discussion or or even exclusive to women makes you seem unreasonably angry. Just chill out a bit and be happy that women are making progress sorting themselves out.
Femininity includes the ability to enchant, which is often more effective and long-lasting than the masculine ability to compel.
But what if someone falls of your enchant? Maybe because suddenly you're not pretty enough? Maybe because you couldn't restrain your unlady-like rage or emotions. Women are biased and stereotyped all the time, it's a full time job for us to find a archetype so we can "fit in" and do something for society, because unlike men we have the false belief that we are limited.
Neither enchantment nor compulsion are gendered phenomena.
Yeah, ascribing a gender/sex/whatever you want to call it to any personality trait, or quality, or temperament, is incredibly closed- minded. All it does is reinforce negative stereotypes.
@@brxzbze it’s actually more closed minded to not recognize it, and pretend that there’s no difference. Vaush tards couldn’t understand that though - in fact. I’m sure a lot of Vaush tards are still trying to figure out what a women is. Because they’ve never been with one.
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One thing I keep seeing in stories where the meek, non-action male hero gets a badass, assertive, ass-kicking girlfriend - she's usually violent towards him. This is done either for laughs, to show how weak the hero is, or for...female empowerment, I guess? A horrible double standard, really.
One reason I love the Scotsman in Samurai Jack is that he's this big, loud, brash, offensive brute, but dotes on his wife. Who is even worse. Lol
I think the most danger Frodo was in during the entire trilogy was when Galadriel was tested and considered taking the ring from him. She is extremely powerful, but in Tolkien's universe, when a good guy is extremely powerful, you don't even realize it because they don't flaunt it like the bad guys do.
Wow the comment "I wanted to crawl out of my skin and be free of it" hit me so hard, I never knew anyone else had those thoughts too 😔 mine definitely stemmed from the fear of men and that no matter how I dressed there was some creeper looking at me or being inappropriate or touching me with out permission. It's a trauma I still haven't fully healed from and I am well past being a teenager.
Same here. Female puberty and all the expectations put on you, coupled with being seen very different by men now, can make you feel quite negatively about your body :( I'll turn 26 soon and have only started to accept myself as a woman or female some years ago
Tell me you're ugly without telling me you're ugly.
@@rodericblack4657 you are one...the most beautiful girls are the ones who are more exposed to being abused and traumatised...because some men are disgusting! As you seem...
@@rodericblack4657 issues much Roderic? If there’s anyone ugly here, it’s you.
I also wanted to crawl out of my skin and be free of it but because I felt hideous and a freak. I've been taller than most of my country's population since I was 16, and I was chubby, that's how my eating disorder started. Every one of the girls in my class had boyfriends or have guys paying attention to them, but I was always overlooked, so in my case it was envy because of my insecurities.
I feel that Black Widow was once a good example of femininity, while she was certainly very kick-ass that simply wasn't her role on the team. Her introduction and interrogation of Loki in the Avengers were fantastic examples. She used her weakness and vulnerability as a pretty woman to woo the soldiers into a false sense of security, to get them to divulge information unintentionally, after all she was just a pretty face completely at their mercy. And with Loki she actually opened herself up to him, allowed herself to be hurt by him, only to outwit him and beat him with words, something none of the other avengers could have done. But then in her own stand alone movie she was turned into some sort of superhuman, who saw every problem as a nail; that's on top of the fact it was run of the mill action movie rather than a spy thriller, cause you know she was a spy.
In regards to Vorsh "I'm smiling, but I'm very fucking furious." - Marshal Zhukov, Death of Stalin.
"... eight year old boys, easily distracted by a sword and some cool explosions." I'd be a little insulted if it weren't true.
Great film I think Zhukov was my favourite character in that
Witty tricksters are alot harder to write I imagine.
LOL I love the Zhukov quote, fantastic film.
Black Widow, like all Marvel, is trash. All Marvel movies are repetitive and the same.
So is feminine in part about deception?
I’d like to see more women UA-camrs like you, your ideas align with so much of what I’ve been thinking for so long and you put it perfectly in such eloquent words.
One character that springs to mind is Wendy, from J.M. Barrie's "Peter Pan".
Although it's a story about children, and perhaps for children, she always struck me as a powerful, feminine character.
Peter is a boy dead terrified of becoming anything, while Wendy is a girl who's OK with becoming a woman someday.
She begins the story already out of Peter's league.
She could be a bit of a buzzkill sometimes though.
I think Barbie is a good example too.......
It took me until literally just now to realize that the fake-blond fake-sword woman is supposed to be best mommy Galadriel.
In the words of a wise man, _U WOT?_
Yessss I'm so happy you're covering this! Galadriel is one of my favorite characters from LOTR, and seeing what Amazon has done with their Rings of Power show just infuriated me on so many levels. And the same goes for other similar characters, or how current Hollywood is handling femininity in general. Which is terrible, to say the least.
I think the Gimli/lock of hair scene is especially beautiful when you understand in Silmarillion that she refused 3 times to offer a strand of her hair to the greedy, corrupt elf Fëanor in the first age. Especially with the tension between dwarves and elves in the history of Middle Earth, it was a huge diplomatic and loving moment when she agreed to offer 3 strands of hair to Gimli. Thereafter, Gimli and Legolas, who at first did not trust each other, became close friends. It’s actually quite beautiful the power a disarming woman can hold in healing divides and seeing the beauty/truth in others.
Vulnerability is a choice. Weakness is not. That’s how I’ve always seen it.
Weakness is absolutely a choice.
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm Imagine you're at a funeral where two brothers are burying their dead mother, someone who died tragically in an accident well before her time. The first one mourns her death publicly and doesn't hide the pain, knowing that the funeral is the most appropriate time to do so. The second bottles it up, unwilling to let anyone see it affect him because he wants everyone to think that he's strong and cold-blooded. Which of those two is the real weak one? The one who's willingly vulnerable or the one who pretends he's not?
Freewill is somewhat an illusion anyways. Most of your actions are reactions to previous events and are determined by the way those past events shaped your values and desires. If a man were to slap you in the face, whether you'd fight or back down would be determined before he even slapped you. Either you're the sort to fight, or you're not. The action in the moment is irrelevant.
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm nobody chooses to be weak
I think both are determined by choices and environmental factors.
This is a great video that discusses a lot of interesting topics that are thoroughly ignored. I think the modern problem with Galadriel is that she occupies an Archetype that is not popular anymore: the Sorceress Queen. Where the Maiden had found popularity in the form of the Disney Princess, and the Amazon in action movies, the Sorceress Queen (one of my favorite archetypes) has struggled in the media. She occupies the finest of lines. Powerful, but not physically, wise but not quite old, magical but not expressly otherworldly, in many respects she is a witch but not evil, and of course beautiful and alluring, but not a sexual temptress. She is the ultimate feminine, and Galadriel is one of the only examples on film. To see what the new show seeks to do with her character is disheartening to say the least.
For actual discussion on this topic that is not right wing religious moralisim, or leftist ideology, look up Camille Paglia here in UA-cam. Read her books! She is near genius in her writing and speaking ability, a woman who is well acquainted with the visceral power of women but also respects the values of men. Seriously, many of the ideas you expressed here, she had talked about at length. Definitely worth a listen!
Lol. I agree with you here but Galadriel is wise AND old (even older than the moon and sun), she's both magical AND otherworldly (she's always described as such.😅
@@queenberuthiel5469 I know. Lol. I love LOTR. I worded it wrong. I meant she isn’t old in appearance, often the Sorceress Queen is immortal, but eternally youthful. And yes Galadriel is among the wisest of the elves. And of course the elves of Tolkien are very other worldly, but often the archetype appears as born on earth having learned magic, like Morgan Le Fay. There are exceptions to every rule. Galadriel doesn’t perfectly fit the archetype, but she is awesome, nonetheless!
@@LucasGonzalez-rj9bk
Yes. I agree. She may fall into that Sorceress Queen archetype and I love female characters like that. They don't need to be physically strong(er than most woman but Galadriel is an exception again because she is described as tall, physically strong and athletic) and be a warrior. They were wise, intelligent, resourceful and mostly use their brains and voice to help or to bring change. Even ordinary and mortal feminine characters like Hara Lingayan, who's your typical traditional feminine wife and queen but when it comes to protecting the people she loves or fight for the right thing, characters like her will catch you in surprise and prove that feminine women can also be "badass" without literally kicking ass.
I teared up when you talked about teenage girls and how uncomfortable being female can feel. Even now at 24 years of age, I feel uncomfortable with wearing tops without sleeves when I'm in a verbal conflict with someone because I feel much more vulnerable and even naked. I hate how everyone hates on teenage girls, it's hard enough thanks to biology without adding sexism from both women and men.
Teenage girls need guidance, and instead of giving them what they need, their parents and teachers let them spend all their time online getting brainwashed by lunatics. This is why so many young girls are becoming e-thots and gender confused weirdos. They've been abandoned by those who should be teaching and guiding them, and instead of seeing the sadness behind what they've become, everybody just mocks them.
I think that wearing tops without sleeves is technically making yourself vulnerable? Just to say I'm not sure it's society as a whole's fault that that might feel uncomfortable.
@@monkey6207 But what are the sleeves going to do for me?
@@katherine6326 Well I hope no teenage girl is unfortunate enough to be guided by you. You're not really any better since you think girls are being brainwashed and you call them with sexist words. Good job you.
@@Sipu97 Make you feel less like you're naked? (You're the one who said you feel uncomfortable without sleeves and honestly that's probably why).
You're gonna blow up. Your class, femininity and command of language are outstanding (while still being able to be humorously vulgar). Great work!
By the time of Fellowship of the RIng, Galadriel was arguably the single strongest force for good left in Middle Earth. She was able to bring down the walls of Dol Guldur by her own power. It is very telling then, that people thought they had to take away the parts of her that were feminine in order for some people today to see her as strong.
Here's one of my favourite literary depictions of a strong woman - writer Miljenko Jergović describing his grandmother in the semi-autobiographic short story collection "Mama Leone":
"I don’t know how she told Grandma that her granddaughter was dead, but later Mom said she’d feared
for Grandma’s heart. We all thought Grandma had a weak heart. That’s actually what the doctors had told
us, but it turned out they had it wrong. Her heart could withstand what the strongest in the world couldn’t.
It swallowed the sadness like a big snake swallows a rabbit, and kept beating, and we never saw anything
on her face, just sometimes a tear would fall when she was watching television. But she didn’t cry."
"Grandma said try this fig, for my sake. It was then I gave in because it was a fig and figs are a
special fruit for my grandma. Everything to do with figs was tender, quiet, and distant, buried in some
long-lost time, and if she went back to that time, she’d become unsteady and unsure of herself, a little girl,
my grandma the little girl, because for her all the figs in the world were from Dubrovnik, from the
Dubrovnik where she grew up going to an Italian school and looking out to sea from Boninovo. The sea
was without end, and life itself had no end, and so at the ends of life and the sea, the only thing in which
she was still a child was those figs, in the most beautiful of them all, the violet Ficus indiana, the fruit in
which my grandma lives without a single disappointment in life, without a single great pain of adulthood
where things stop being childlike and nothing ever happens for the first time. Grandma bore children and
buried the first of them, Grandma loved Greta Garbo, her silence and her blue eyes, Grandma delivered
grandchildren and buried the first of them, Grandma loved Grandpa and buried him too, Grandma hated
the Old Devil because the Old Devil had brought Grandpa only suffering in life and Grandma couldn’t
allow it that someone she loved suffered."
beautiful
This is why I've started watching more anime and reading more manga. I have found feminine heroes that don't have to be physically stronger than their male counterparts or put them down to be strong, brave and resourceful. Yona of the Dawn is one of my all time favorite stories because of this. If you want a feminine hero who learns to save the day and actively strives to be better and stronger ( in more ways than just physically ) throughout her story it's a refreshing read.
OMG!! Fellow reader of Yona of The Dawn..
Yeah couldn't agree more
@@mentariadinda105 its such an awesome read! I can't wait to get a hold of book 33.
I've heard good things about Yona.
@@mentariadinda105 my favorite manga 💓
Animes are perverted. I guess that depends on the anime though.
Your videos literally heal and inspire me with the level of sane and compassionate takes that actually have the genuine curiosity to delve into and communicate experiences with actual charitable specificity. Man the specificity is what really sooths my brain and allows me to say “I see now and I can totally see how that would make a person feel/behave like that” rather than just being expected to somehow make some general grievance make sense in my brain even if i have so many questions because I can’t quite just magically think up why a person would say that every time.
The age old grandmother habit of reminding their grandchildren that their biological clocks are ticking spans continents and cultures
Maybe there's something to it
They want to still be around when their great grandchildren are had.
I totally agree with you. I was a 'tomboy' when I was younger and I found that men who supposedly lifted up women and who wanted women to be treated equally etc were fine with me when I was a tomboy but when I got older I really embraced and loved my femininity and they changed - I had to prove my worth to them and more surprisingly to other women. Because I was feminine and I am still feminine it's treated as something I should be ashamed of and I should be more androgynous or my views and opinions or anything similar are dismissed as a 'feminine presenting' woman and how I couldn't possibly understand anything because being feminine means I must be a 'pick me' girl. It's, of course, not the case and as a woman I also still have more masculine interests than many of my more butch female acquaintances who put me down for being so feminine.
I always wonder if women hating on other women who are very feminine isn't at least partially motivated by jealousy. Men like and much prefer feminine women. In exactly the same way that most women prefer masculine men.
I think sometimes that very feminine women not being taken seriously has more to do with clothing than anything else. If a man rocked up to a business meeting in an outfit that was as impractical and stylised as some of what women wear, he definitely would not be taken seriously either. I think women should dress conservatively at work, just as men do. When outside of work though - go nuts.
@@hooligan9794 I agree
Masculinity is often portrayed in very dynamic ways. There’s no one way to be masculine, and yet people often describe only one way to be feminine and that turns a lot of women off as we, like men, are a very diverse bunch. This video is the best breakdown I’ve seen on how femininity doesn’t just have to be one way of being and actually gets into how it can be useful to society in a variety of ways. Thank you for this.
Thank you! It's an issue I've been having with the typical 'strong independent woman' - stereotypically male characteristics get glorified at the expense of feminine features. Like I need to become more like a man to be equal, as if female qualities are lesser and cannot be a strength. One of the reasons I do not like to call myself a feminist...
The point of feminism is equality, not subversion of roles nor degradation of some characteristics we tend to associate with women.
Actually, people and especially youth are getting more and more vulnerable with themselves, but proud to solve their problems with their tools.
Feminism is not a congregation of one thought, but a continuos discussion, because we are aware that some areas of it are still grey and uncharted (as in "what IS feminity per se).
This channel exposed only a percentage of feminism, but this isn't the only way of thinking, and unfortunately is very biased and cherrypicked even on male feminists, using one extreme case to describe the whole movement (does it seem fair to you?)
Not all of feminists authors parade for aggression or masculinization, but feminists will speak for women and men to stand up for themselves and their fellows when abuse is in action (and unfortunately, a lot of "old values" people are prone to abusing more than leftists because "things worked better in the ol' days", which can justify children and teens getting psychologically abused).
Lastly, to remain in topic, taking a step back and recognizing that some of the "life lessons" in the disney movies aged pretty badly doesn't mean you can't still enjoy them, just that nowadays it's better that those characters remain in the fantasy stories realm, and do not get applied blindly to our future women and men.
Hope i got my message across
It was indeed that pandering, two-faced misogynist Steven Moffat that drove me away from Doctor Who - but I should be paradoxically grateful as it's gotten me into doing my own 'tres amateur' translations of the absolutely brilliant Nathalie Henneberg a criminally overlooked author whose writing captures everything fun and enjoyable about SF-Fantasy.
Loving the My Fair Lady clips. Definitely my favorite musical, it's hysterically funny (even tho I HATE the ending). And I love how the songs about 'why can't a woman be more like a man' are meant as satire, coming as they are from the mind of a very arrogant, self-absorbed man! But I'm sure the entire movie is considered politically incorrect nowadays 🙄
Galatea, I know you're harsh on your old work, but seriously, each new video you make is your best yet, and that's something to be proud of. Thank you for being a voice of hope and reason (and loveliness and humor) in this batshit crazy world.
Galadriel had three times denied a loch of her hair to one of the most powerful elves to ever exist, but she gave it to little'ol Gimli. That was a very important part of the story for both Gimli and Galadriel. Remember ... she gave Gimli three.
I'm kind of embarrassed, but I've never heard anyone explain the massive jump from female childhood to adolescence in a way that so plainly illustrates how wildly different your world becomes overnight. Really well articulated stuff.
The best part of the movie was where Galadriel became unnerved by the possibilities of the ring. The audience was disturbed by its ability to damage her calm.
Because she wasn't always that person, she was incredibly prideful and sought power when she was younger, her experience in middle earth and her life helped her learn and grow into who we see her as in the hobbit and LOTR movies, someone more graceful and compassionate, the fact she gave gimly three strands of her hair was a show of how much she let go of her pride, only two other men had asked before and she turned them down, these were greater and more powerful men than gimly was.
Her encounter with the one ring brought out her older self, her pride and lust for power, and her desire to rule.
She resisted because of the wisdom and experience she gained through life and considered it as a test to see if she was worthy of returning back to Valinor, in the past she refuses to return and is eventually banned from returning at all.
Vaush’s defense was he was just being “ironic”. Imagine watching a guy who’s only defense for being a hypocrite and being called out for it is, “its just a prank bro”.
His fans probably just agree with his lolbertarian take on cp
isn't that the pedo guy?
I really do not understand what people see from that Vaush guy. Hell whole community of bread tube is just laughing stock.
He wasn't ironic. He was "mask-off".
The word "ironic" was used systematically by feminists to excuse and justify their awful treatment of men an boys, in fiction, entertainment and in real life, and also to justify a wide range of psychological and emotional attacks on men meant to break them and take advantage on men, an in particular make sure men shut their mouths and not complain too much about being treated as sub-humans by feminists.
Nobody seemed to care too much when feminists behaved the way they did or used the word "ironic" to excuse themselves.
I know I wouldn't give up on work too, but do you know how many times I've heard women say "I would like to be a stay at home mom" (or just take care of a house) only to quickly add, looking almost scared, "But I don't think I would manage it, haha, I'd get bored and find a part-time job at least!". Is there something wrong with a woman wanting to spend time raising a child instead of throwing it quickly to the system (kindergartens etc)? I always find it so sad when a woman needs to defend her decision and say things like she'd go back to work once child is older when you can see she really would be happy not working in a company again.
On a side note, I love those "I want a traditional woman" types. What they actually mean is "I want a lady from American's upper class from 50s, who didn't have to go to work". Women. Has. Always. Worked. Unless one was from a nobility but then they were supposed to know at least how to run a house, carry a conversation etc. They weren't stupid bimbos >.> Running a house is a job too though.
Galadriel is a personification of what the poet Robert Graves calls "The White Goddess". She's the Isis of the Egyptians, the Ngame of the Africans, the Athena of the Greeks. Women who embody and express their innate and divine femininity are attiring themselves in the white garment of the Goddess that all the major societies throughout the world (including the most masculine) worshipped and adored. Girls, each and every one of you are a Queen and a Goddess at heart: wise, beautiful, gentle, fierce, poetic, powerful, intuitive, empathetic, and demanding of respect. The world today is driven by hyper-masculinity (and will be for some time), but the time is drawing near when the pendulum will swing, the moon will shine bright, and the feminine will have its era. Dare to bear your radiant diadem with a tall posture and to be a shining harbinger of what is to come. You are so, so valued, and so, so needed. Thank you for this powerful video Galatea.
Having finished this hour long adventure, I found it truly refreshing, the description of the fears and trials of a girl coming of age melted my heart and awakened in me the resolve to make certain that my little girl knows that she is loved, cared for and safe, if ever I am blessed to father a daughter. Thank you.
I’m 40 minutes into the video, so I don’t know if you make this point later on, but I started thinking about how nowadays in mainstream media, femininity in men is rewarded, seen as being strong, and is acceptable, and then their masculinity is typically frowned upon. Same thing goes for women in media too like you said; a woman’s femininity is seen as shallow but if she’s masculine, she’s worthy. It’s so bizarre. There’s nothing wrong with feminine boys and masculine girls, but the way so many stories today demonize femininity in women and masculinity in men is just crazy. Femininity itself is not weak and masculinity itself is not toxic.
I don't know but where I live 'femininity' or whatever people want it to be is not really rewarded at all. People seem very confused that certain traits are actually not linked to one gender (even if certain traits might be more common for one gender) and seem to have a very hard time accepting that society has to change and be accepting of men and women who don't fit into the traditional box of genders.
@@juliab9596 I would say this is more common in the mainstream media and Hollywood. I would not say it’s a universal truth, but on social media, Hollywood, and among my social circle (theatre kid), this is pretty common.
@@juliab9596 there's a difference between showing acceptance to those people and demonizing the people who don't conform to those people. You don't accept people by demonizing the ones who are not like them. Its counterproductive.
Take the example of ATLA, Katara is a traditionally feminine icon but also strong, and her counterpart is Toph who's a tomboy but also strong. Those two are shown in a positive light. Unlike in other medias where the masculine leaning woman is shown in a postive light whilst the feminine leaning woman is shown as vapid and shallow.
OMG YES!!! The part where you said grown men start looking at them but they still feel like children!!! I wish more people would talk about this transition 😫 that women undergo a physical change which appears to signal a group of individuals who are older but I still feel like a child 👀 no magic light switch flipped in my brain that makes me ready for any of this, especially the attention. I was still the little girl I was before those charges started.
I’m done with the whole femininity and masculine thing I’m a man and I don’t give a fuck what I’m under I live my life I love my Hugs I cry and I’m willing to be a stay at home dad if necessary
Same bro. Hugs, crying, and as a hope for the future, being a stay at home dad are all pretty good to me too.
Bruh...I am done thinking about this shit. Let people be who they are even in movies.
As long as you understand that you will be disrespected being a stay at home dad,then everything is good
You're a sad excuse for a man.
I think that we, collectively as a culture, don't see people as full human beings able to experience the full spectrum of human feelings and attributes. Collectively we view each gender as one side of a coin, possessing only a select range of such feelings and attributes, when there's really a lot more overlap than many people want to acknowledge. Its more comfortable, I think, for many people to look to extremes where there may be more of a clear-cut divide rather than in the large gray area between those extremes because things become less simple and more difficult to categorize in that part of the spectrum. If there's one thing humans like doing, it's labeling things. And if there's one thing that makes us very uncomfortable, it's being unable to assign a label to something. Black and white thinking when it comes to gender causes so much unnecessary pain for so many people. Good for you living as you are as a person and not letting pop culture dictate how you should be. As a lifelong tomboy, I'm right here with you.
20:50 I love this analogy. I get the sense lessons such as this haven't been imparted to youths over the last few generations. I feel like so many parents have given up trying to clarify things for their children or toughen them up in such a way. Instead, we've either just "left them alone" so they can remain awash in confusion their whole lives, or pushed them in unproductive and even destructive directions without a second thought. I suppose that's pretty vague or too general, but suffice to say that I think family rearing has seriously suffered in the last few generations, and these quibbles about gender, sexuality and the sexes is simply a symptom. The world is growing increasingly full of lost souls, either smothered by over-protectiveness and indoctrination, or left to wither on the vine by neglect and timidity. I consider myself among the latter. It's no picnic trying to figure this all out on your own.
It's easy for us dudes, especially young dudes or those who have been wronged by women before, to get resentful and pent up and start blaming them for everything. This analogy of feminine power as a sword is a sobering reminder that it's not that simple. Obviously, there will be those vicious bitches who thrill at the discovery of "the sword", and gleefully misuse it, leaving a path of destruction and sorrow in their wake. But he same is true of men and their masculine "sword" (lol). We both have a painful and difficult birthright thrust upon us at a young age, and it's hard to come to terms with that, especially if your parents aren't in the picture. Or they're possessed by ideology and refuse to speak the truth.
Your video is a sterling example of the good will you can maintain just by approaching a topic with understanding and honesty. As a dude who's had issues with women his whole life, it's gratifying and sobering to hear your perspective, and I may not have given it a chance if you'd have approached it with the same bravado or viciousness you so often hear with modern feminists. Subscribed.
As a more masculine-leaning woman, thank you for the disclaimer you give that the more masculine women do in fact exist - it's something often neglected in these calls for valuing feminine women/masculine men. The last thing we would need is for masculine women and feminine women to turn against each other on this! As said in the video, a lot of these hashtag strong female characters are actually not even relatable to masculine women anyway, because they're not actually masculine, just removed from feminine "weakness" (being a masculine woman is about far more than just brutality).
I think we need to go back to a place of realizing and respecting that most women naturally lean towards feminity, and men towards masculinity... buuuuut, there's the exceptions with feminine men and masculine women, who deserve to fit within this system without making any way of being a false ideal for everyone. Accepting yourself as a gender-nonconforming person isn't helped by pretending the overall differences between male and female doesn't exist either, because being masculine as a woman is different from the way a man is, anyway.
I really feel like the message of this video should be talked about more. I don't myself feel very feminine or relate to feminine characters that much, so often haven't felt personally attacked by demeaning portrayals of femininity, but recently I started to consider more how "femininity" is often equated with submissiveness, weakness and passivity (valid to consider as negative traits)... And I was considering the strong-willed feminine women I've met and seen, it just doesn't seem right. They may not be masculine, but that sure doesn't mean they are submissive or weak. Sure, there's a masculine kind of power, but there's feminine power too! It's just as strong and important, women can have just as much willpower and force, for a feminine woman it's just a different kind of power than the masculine one we are more familiar with.
I think part of the problem is that "traditional femininity" under patriarchy has at least partly been about conditioning women to be submissive to and servicing of men, so we need to do some rediscovering of what femininity means when it's allowed to flourish for it's own sake. Women don't HAVE to be feminine, but many are and deserve some respect for that.
Why do women always assume that cultural depictions of femininity that don't like are the doing of the "patriarchy".
Women do and always have steered culture as much as men. Women are usually (of course there are plenty of exceptions) more submissive than men. That is why it is considered a more feminine trait. The traits that are considered masculine or feminine where not decided upon by some council of judges before men and women came to be. They are the traits generally exhibited by the sexes relative to one another. It's not a grand conspiracy, it's common human nature and no trait is monopolised by either sex. They will also, always, be plenty of exceptions.
@@hooligan9794 I never said it's a depiction I don't like. As said in the post I specifically said I never felt personally offended much by depictions of femininity as submissiveness/passivity/weakness either way exactly because I just don't relate to that kind of femininity in women.
What I wrote is I've come to consider that linking feminity inherently to weakness is a misunderstanding. It's not just that women can be "strong and masculine", but that feminity itself is not inherently weak or submissive. Yes, there's submissive (feminine) women, as there are men. Femininity CAN be weak but isn't inherently so. (Toxic feminity in the same sense as there is toxic masculinity I guess?)
Enforcing your will directly and overpowering everyone for dominance sure is more masculine, but are we going to delude ourselves into thinking that masculine strength is the ONLY source of strength? Yeah, it's more feminine to be emotional, flexible, compassionate, warm, soft, tender, subtle, considerate, elegant, dignified and as I said, most women may gravitate towards those traits over masculine ones. My point is those traits do not inherently mean weakness or subservience.
A woman can be very feminine, very soft and gentle and all that, and still have a strong will of her own, stand on her own two feet with fire in her eyes and know what she wants and what she expects from those around her. A woman doesn't have to be masculine to be a strong person.
It IS a very patriarchal mentality to bulldoze over all other ways of being to demand that hashtag DOMINANCE and BRUTAL FORCE is the only traits that make a person strong or are worth valuing, and it absolutely is the prerogative of patriarchy to demand specifically submissiveness and subservience from women, go right back and read some texts from the 1700s and see what they said about women's roles in society.
@@neurotrino3292 I'm not arguing that society didn't proscribe roles for women (as it absolutely did for men too). What I am arguing is that women were involved in that prescription, for both sexes too.
If you took a look at the lot of the average man in the 1700s, it will be entirely unsurprising that that the average woman wanted nothing to do with it.
I disagree that dominance and brute force were the only forms of strength people recognised. The feminine has always been considered powerful and dangerous as much as it was seen as all the softer things.
I don't think we disagree all that much I just find the "patriarchy" stuff a little tedious. Women have always made use and reinforced the "patriarchy" to their own advantage. Were women unfairly disadvantaged in many areas? Of course. Were men? Of course.
@@hooligan9794 I'm not disagreeing with that, but I don't think my post said this?
I meant "patriarchy" to refer to traditional cultural norms enforcing women to be subservient, instead of just blaming "male writers" or whatever.
I refer to patriarchy more in a past sense, since I don't think we live in an actual patriarchy in most western societies in current times, however, patriarchy is a real thing that existed and does leave an impact. It does harm both men and women, that was my point of how people of both genders are complex and deserve respect and freedom from one simplified constraining role.
Masculinity is valuable, femininity is valuable and they exist in natural forms outside of the traditional norms even though those roles maybe were adjacent to what is perhaps an inherent "masculine nature" that mostly (not only) males gravitate towards and same with femininity/females.
Right now society is trying to getting rid of the traditional gender roles, so we need to do some rediscovering of what both masculinity and feminity mean outside of it (and what men and women should strive to be), because it doesn't seem to be working to pretend everybody is just the same.
@@neurotrino3292 I wasn't suggesting that there wasn't a patriarchy, I was arguing against the "patriarchy" as an entirely male construct that had the goal of oppressing women. Perhaps you aren't suggesting it was that but it is nearly the only way it is discussed these days. Women had a significant hand in the patriarchy too.
Other than that, I think I agree with just about everything you said there.
I think katara from ATLA is also a good example of this. She can fight yes, but ultimately she acted as the mother of the group who held them together and took care of them. The duality of her waterbending as both healing and destructive acts as additional support of her multifaceted nature as both a warrior and a protector and that both can exist and neither is more superior to the other.
"You are being liberated. Please do not resist!"
Uh...
I'm a man who was brought here by the algorithm's sensing of my great displeasure on the sundering of Tolkien's timeless legendarium. Of all the criticisms of the Rings of Power series this may be the lengthiest but somehow seems to also be the most pertinent. The biggest insult of this series is the deconstruction of Galadriel's character, to which your insight is particularly informative and appreciated. Rey Skywalker was bad enough, but Galadriel is sacred, and Amazon has kindled colossal contempt within me.
You didn't read the Silmarilian, did you? She was definitely portrayed as an amazonian woman, a warrior and incredibly prideful and strong.
@@ThatKid22101 Prideful, yes. Strong, certainly (at least by the Tolkien conception of Strength which predominantly portrayed the most unlikely of candidates to prevail in the most grueling of circumstances (the halfling Frodo, Eowyn/Pippin, the strength of Galadriel, and even the power of Narya, all being examples of subtle, 'soft', Tolkien-style power)). Hell, the fact that the lovers Beren and Luthien play as huge of a role as they do is another way Tolkien makes the case for soft power. I have read it though admittedly it's been awhile. But if you seriously for one fraction of a millisecond believe that Tolkien had Galadriel running constantly about with sword, armor, and "p!$$ and vinegar in her veins" I am CERTAIN that you are not as familiar with it as you imply yourself to be.
Is "the deconstruction of Galadriel's character" really the biggest insult of the series? Based on what? A single screenshot? I'm not filled with confidence for the series but come on.
@@Jagonath The trailer contained so very little Tolkien. Most of its cast are newly invented, and... fine. But if you won't be true to the tiny bit of Tolkien's work you're including, then what are you actually doing? What bigger insult could there possibly be?
@@ThatKid22101 By all means please cite the page where she picked up a sword ever...her strength had nothing to do with martial ability
i greatly enjoy her brash yet somehow highly dignified personality