Lorry Drivers Warn: Prepare for Major Brexit Shortages
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
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Yeah. blame EU for everything instead of paying proper wages
If you open the market up and increase the labour pool it will depress wages. Law of supply and demand .
Proper wages can only be paid if rates go up. The large hauliers such as Wincanton run on 3-4% margin which they can do because of volume but is not sustainable for a small haulier. The rates will be dictated by the likes of Tesco in the same way they do with farmers.
haha your falt for just taking on cheap laber
@@hilarygibson3150 except that it's been proved time and again EU immigration didn't cause a slump in labour wages.
@@BrofessorDG is this not strong evidence that free movement did in fact depress wages? For those on minimum/low wages at least
@@nelch according to UCL, KCL; UK government white papers, the employers themselves and charities? No. But of course, you all know damn better don't you,
"Drivers are our tools".
There is an old saying.... "If you look after your tools they will last you a lifetime".
I thought she said our drivers were tools...
@@jonathansmith7400 if you listen to her, she say's thieve all gone home, there for she was using foreign labour, i hope she ends up working the till in Tesco.
UK got gready and and lied to there citizens
If you don’t invest in tools you use daily, you will end up buying new tools more often.
Drivers are our tools …exactly the wrong attitude they are humans and get treated like scumbags it’s a fucking disgrace !
As a UK truck driver I can tell you there is no shortage of drivers. There's a shortage of drivers prepared to actually do the job. The job is shit, companies have treated drivers like shit for decades and now they're shocked when they can't get any. I applied for a position the other week and recruitment website Indeed showed there were over 50 applications for that one position. In other words if a particular company is crying about not getting drivers then there's a good chance they're shit to work for.
Exactly. I voted Remain, but remember being told "If you don't take that dodgy motor out I'll get a Pole to do it." I've got no problem with the European drivers - still drink with the ones who are still here, and they're not putting up with the shit any more - just the attitude of the employers.
The industry, as a whole is about 50,000 short .
I think local vs nationwise is a different story. It's like going to a grocery store n proclaiming there are no starving people in the world and then giving the reason that not all people can cook. yes, not all people can cook (or not all companies treat their drivers properly) but just bcuz the local situation seems like that doesn't mean there isn't a shortage
fully agree
@@korolev-musictodriveby6583 30,000 HGV tests not conducted last year due to Covid - not helping.
"Nobody expected the food supply chain to under so much stress from Brexit". I think you'll find that lots of experts predicted this but of course that was just "project fear".
HA HA HA, this shortage was warned about 15 years ago. with pandemic and natural disasters wiping out crops. always was going to be issues. also heard from a trucker the other day, says he knows a mate who is a trucker but been waiting a year to get licence renewed. roads far more safer with less left hand drive trucks
theres never been a shortage of ANYTHING where i live in the north east. no empty shelves in stores no petrol shortages nothing ,its more media bs that crying whinging remoaners put out to try and make it look like they were right.
@@toonarmy8524 Plenty of shortages round the east Midlands mate, you must be very lucky where you are. Either that or your eyes are so blinkered that you simply can't see them. Brexit is causing a 4% shrinkage of our economy compared to 2% caused by the pandemic. These are official figures from the ONS. Brexit is a disaster and will continue to be for decades (admitted by Lord Snooty Rees Mogg).
I expected it & it’s going to get much worse !
@@stevekenilworthYeah because we hear about the carnage caused by LH drive trucks every day in the news ! Is that the best defence you have ?
They ignored the Elephant in the room: Wages.
An increase in cost, for instance wages, will befall the consumer. The consumer is the one paying for all this. As such it will become cheaper just to import the food instead, that's how the global market works, if you can't compete you die. Either that or massive subsidies, which the consumers still pay through taxes and your new trading partners might not like it.
@@bar10dr How does imported food get here if not on a lorry?
@@thebaldconvict Driven by a European from mainland Europe.
@@bar10dr Who transports the imported food? Without drivers you're stuffed, my friend.
@@MrGorpm Truck drivers from mainland Europe by the looks of it.
Any uk haulier who has consistently underpaid their drivers because they knew they could use cheaper European drivers deserves to go to the wall, good riddance
Funny how what goes around...comes around.
So let’s say they employ British drivers & pay them a good wage. The price of food will rise as a consequence. Brexit = More expensive food. The opposite of what Rees-Mogg suggested
you clearly never run a business before
I was one of the european drivers,I was quiet well paid"I think😁15£h"but after 5 years delivering with the trailes I left because of the stupid paper work the gov asking for.Sorry for the birts,but ou have very shit gov,only idiots nothin else
@@tiberiusinuk me? I literally run a business 😂
....i have to sigh when i hear this claim " we are short of drivers ! ". when you apply to be a hgv driver it will require a medical, highway code test, a driving test, a cpc which in total can cost up to £2000 and more. The pay is about £10-£12 and that is if you can find a Firm that will take you on without " two years experience" as the Insurance Firms require it ! There are over 80,000 drivers in the UK who do not use their hgv licences as the pay is so bad, rude warehouse staff and office staff, nights away from home and terrible bathroom facilities which means i am crapping on newspapers and washing my bum hole with a water bottle. The industry has done nothing to solve this over the last ten years and the results are here for all to see. i have zero sympathy with the British logistics industry.
Most hauliers now work for dhl or Amazon. As it’s better money for that……
@@MatthewChapmanYT in
I’ve been a driver for 45 years. When I started you were taken on and the company paid for your hgv license. You then were likely to stay with that company for your whole career. Since then like many others have said companies have got greedy and want to keep the profit for themselves. Very short sighted thinking. You listen to people who’ve been in the industry long before me and most of the the bosses were gentlemen and treated their drivers with respect. I’ve always enjoyed my time driving but watching it go down due to companies using agency drivers is saddening.
yeah, better to stay home on benefits! go to work!
Thanks for your insight. I mean having a bloody loo is important. We are all spoilt so we can eat junk food and junk drink. If the world doesn't supply us that for a pittance people lose their minds
Plus all the government red tape and b.s. they have to put up with when they do get the job.
“Our customers are our priority” maybe if you made your drivers a priority, you wouldn’t be in such a mess now!
Solution = reduce safety regulations thereby "'allowing"' drivers to work longer shifts.
Complete idiocy.
Good for the EU - they need HGV drivers, too. Perhaps a few UK drivers want to relocate? With better working conditions?
@@babelhuber3449 i think the EU contries can fill that position themselves....you had your cake now eat it 😉
weediesbroom ... Yep, especially if you happen to be passing one in a car when they fall asleep at the wheel ... that never ends well for the car driver.
Einheriar Yes sir They can still exploit the Romanians and Hungarians
@@zeez9053 they can organize themselves and get a Better deal. Be smart
As a truck driver in the uk its more of a case that most companys have been through most of the local british drivers by treating them like dirt , there never has been a shortage of drivers just a shortage of companies who know how to treat people .
Very true👍🏼thank you
Valuable input.
Agreed… the yellow peril are our main hauliers they literally treat their staff like shite… no wonder no one wants to drive anymore the rates are dog shit, the hours are complete bollocks, the roads are full of wankers trying to catch you for anything they can give you a fine for (in the name of safety honest) I used to like driving but I don’t miss it at all now
I do not have a CDL but many of my friends that visit me from the US do.
To say that they are shocked at the conditions that UK drivers put up with is an understatement.
From the lack of basic facilities (toilets & showers) to overnight parking to vehicle theft the industry needs a root
and branch overhaul.
As a "four wheeler" I solute you commercial drivers.
"If it got there, a truck brought".
It's about treating people fairly.
A friend's son worked for an agency in a warehouse, and had TIMED toilet breaks. If you were over the alloted time, you got a strike - 3 strikes and they sacked you.
I mean FFS, what has it come to?
The problem's been coming for a long time: Brexit didn't help at all, but the fact that UK PLC wanted more work done for less money for a long time before that, is the real problem. I have no sympathy at all for the industry, they allowed it to happen. Crocodile tears all round.
Worlds smallest violin 🎻, the company should of been applying for there visa months ago sponsoring the ones they want to stay and work, but no that a commitment to far
Absolutely spot on, the money these haulage companies are paying is a scandal and has been for a long time. They shipped in drivers from eastern Europe to fill the gap but even those guys started to quit because the money was so poor. Agencies are a large part of the problem often taking as much as the driver gets but companies don't want to hire so they use agencies more and more. If the company in this video paid decent money they would still have enough drivers, simple as that.
@Paul Master G In the haulage industry agencies are leaches, they take way more that 10%. If it was only 10% it wouldn't be so much of a problem. You have companies paying agencies £20 an hour and the drivers getting around half that and the agencies do little more than run payroll.
@@matthewspry4217 people don't stay where they are not welcome. They should stop grumbling. It was inevitable, they knew it, and it's what they wanted. Truth was never part of the equation.
Only companies that pay shit wages for shit hours will have a shortage of drivers
Extending drivers' hours will only come at the detriment to road safety.
So true
Where's your evidence? EU drivers were regularly flaunting driving hours rules but I don't think there was a rash of safety issues as a result.
@@dougle03 read the DVLA site if you're looking for evidence, what a silly silly comment
@@dougle03 not eu drivers only mr...every driver who came to drive to Britain was forced to drive 15 to 20 hours a day 16 years ago and british drivers were not exempt.....if you want to point a finger on somebody at least be fair.....
I thought drivers hours were limited by law and checked by tachograph.
I'm sure the drivers appreciate being called tools!
Who'd have imagined happily paying less & less with a free supply of cheaper drivers would end like this eh? my heart bleeds for those poor employers....
no more damage though lol
‘Drivers are your tools’ Well, if you ever sit at night wondering what it was you did that made them all f*ck off, there’s your problem, your attitude.
well said aint she a pr ck
The our customers are most important says a lot about her
Drivers are people. Treat them as such and not as a disposable tool.
Treat your tools with respect and they will work for a long time, treat your tools badly & they break & won't work anymore. Simple.
@@andy07361 Boom.
There's not a shortage, there's a shortage of people who will do it for shit wages. The same will hopefully happen to general labour jobs too, underpaid for years now
In general thats of course correct.
But the extra money is coming from somewhere.
The Brits pockets in the grocery store.
'Studio Flat' £1000pcm, extra large cupboard for the wife and kids..
Class 1 driving jobs are not particularly low paid, many of my family are class 1 drivers and earn good wages
The is a massive shortage and will be for the next 5 years minimum. Probably a lot longer. Anyone who says there is a not a shortage either doesn't no what they are talking about or just a fool
That's capitalism for you, whoever will work the hardest for the least amount of money gets the gig. Government intervention is communism remember
There will NOT be a 'major food shortage' - just pay a decent wage. You've had it off with Eastern European drivers as slave labour for years! PAY A PROPER WAGE!!!
@Raymond Massey. And you’ll happily pay the extra cost for your food without demanding a pay rise yourself. Otherwise it’s just inflation.
@@nicksayajirao1730 How about the cool cat executives take a pay cut eh? Eventually, I won't mind going to a rich neighborhood to eat some of those juicy fat CEO's. Anything is eadible with a good slather of BBQ sauce.
@@nicksayajirao1730 Yes.
Yep this so called wonderful European Union was aiding and abetting UK plc to use European workers as slave labour
@@msamour Yep
We need drivers we need drivers ...gets good drivers treats them like dirt and wonders why they don't want to stay
British drivers are laughing... Their wages have been stagnant or worse for decades... Now their pay shooting up like a rocket ! Another Brexit win for the poor working man.
@@cuckingfunt9353 yeah they laughing working longer shifts, thats for sure
@@cuckingfunt9353 yes and now food prices are shooting up and pushing people into poverty.
@@cuckingfunt9353 really? and who pays the higher wages? beside no drivers more companies closes down more unemployed people, sometimes i envy people like you who have a mind like a 5 years old
@@andreaslamers9535 Employers pay the higher wages... It's not rocket science. The companies have to offer better conditions and pay to attract drivers. This way truck drivers get a living wage.. Why shouldn't they get a living wage ?
"Drivers are our tools..." That might be a big part of the problem.
Tools employed by tools (the other kind).
There are enough drivers in the UK. They won't work in this game as they got treated like vermin and underpaid. The chickens have come home to roost after the Poles were shafted by the companies bringing in the Romanians for cheaper labour. Now look at what has happened.
Yes I heard that and was shocked by the comment.
Tools are disposable with her mentality.
In Ireland a tool is a slang term for a lackey or odiously servile and compliant person. I wonder does the same shade of language idiom apply in the UK? If so this is savagely ironic.
@@jgdooley2003 and in London and Estuary English slang.
As an ex driver, I feel no sympathy, I saw my working conditions deteriorate as soon as we started getting Eastern block drivers flood the market. I don't blame any of them, they went where the money was for them, were happy to take lower wages, as they were living in the trucks and just sending money back home, where it could go a lot further, in the mean time, my wages were shrinking, and my bills rising. I always thought it was short sighted of the transport and warehousing companies to rely heavily on foreign staff, many who were never planning on settling here permanently, just earning as much as they could, then going back home.
Of course, that wasn't the only reason I left the job, working conditions have been going down hill for as long as I remember, and the hauliers do nothing to improve them. Dirty facilities at RDC's, long waiting times to get loaded or unloaded, which it isn't unusual to have to do yourself once you get on the bays.
We don't have a driver shortage, we have a shortage of drivers willing to put up with being treated like dirt.
A long term solution to this would be to make it too costly to delay trucks at distribution points, any time over the time it should take to unload, should be paid for by the company receiving or supplying the load, and at a rate that will encourage them to get the job done in a timely manner.
For me personally, I don't think I will ever drive again, the rewards just aren't worth the hassle that goes with the job.
I like working sensible hours, being home at night, and having somewhere clean and hygienic to do my ablutions
Average wage back home = £400 a month, basic job in a factory will get close to that a week, driving a fair bit more, they come, send the money home, go home and live like kings. The guy I worked with built his house (back home) and setup a small supermarket with his earnings from the UK.
Went home and is set for life now, I was working with another guy from Poland, he asked to visit the flat where he was staying, 3 bedroom house, 9 people living in it, all from Europe, we got his laptop, he spent some time typing, then spoke to the person at the agency, he wanted another job, we got talking, turns out back home he was a commis chef, he was after a job in electronics (soldering) I did ask what he would do when he got in there and could not solder, him being a kitchen hand, his answer, "I will say we did it different back home" they are cheap and willing to do anything, employers love them until it goes wrong or they go home.
Majority would have settled, if their circumstances were not exploited to lower the conditions and wages. Employers exploit cheap labor instead of investing in it. Near impossible to get into a higher paid position to be able to settle down as a foreigner, because you'd rather have clueless people like that lady in these positions instead of someone with experience in the industry. You reap what you sow.
What you speak of is a return of FOM. Which makes sence..
Logistics itself and the prices for transporting are bad as well as the greed from the company owners at times.
Everything needs to be cheap, always available and don't come up with demands.
I worked in a warehouse for the 2nd biggest logistics company in Germany as a loader. I wantes more money they said can not do but showed us a yearly net win increase over 10 to 15%.
They said I am replaceable as always showed up on work. 2 years later they are still looking and recently messaged me if I want to come back.
The industry itself is bad and not only in the UK.
Happy that you moved on and found something better
Drivers get paid around £31,000. That's far higher than the average wage,
"There hasn't been a really clear plan." DUDE!! I'm in TEXAS and I could see the lack of plan from here.
Wow who’d have thought the utterly predictable would happen
Project Fear becoming Project Reality as it was predicted
Not the people who voted Leave. They believed unicorns and sunlit uplands would be happenin, fanks 🤦🏻♀️
I expect the current issues will be sorted out over time. In the longer term, the UK (if it remains together) will have more of a say in its own affairs, at the expense of a hit to the economy. Although to mitigate against that economic hit, it may end up following many EU regulations anyway. I didn't think it would come to this, but it is what the citizens wanted. I see no sign, even now, that UK public opinion has changed.
Utterly predictable what you mean remainers crying everyday? 😂
That’s as predictable as night after day
You know I think you’re right, and the irony is in the fact that they’ll try to realign to EU ruling while still being ‘sovereign’ - I just wish it wouldn’t have come to this. But hey ag least there’s still Ireland, a perfect compromise for me and my British partner to be able to live together without hassle. Freedom of movement is a lovely thing.
Pay a decent wage. Give them less hours. HGV as a career is stuck in the 70s.
No it’s not. I thought driving in the 70s was the best time. Full employment and good money, or should I say that your money went further. Then Maggie got in....
I’m a HGV Driver , the wages are to low
And the hours are to long
maybe kermit is referring to 70+ hrs a week?
Germany lacks 50,000 to 60,000 lorry drivers atm. Other EU-countries lack drivers as well. And all EU citizens can immediately start working there, no work visas or other stuff needed. And the wages in Germany aren't particularly worse than those in the UK. So guess where EU lorry drivers looking for a job will go.
If there is a shortage of oil, bosses will pay the higher price for fuel, usualy without complaining about it. When there is a shortage of labour, bosses will fight tooth and nail, even risking a national famine, in order not have to pay more for labour.
I was a hdv driver. I still remember the day when I asked for my salary. Boss was very horrible. Didn't got my wages after I was fired. One company £3000 for my 4 months of hard work and delivery still haven't received my money back. Hopefully Brexit will teach them a lesson.
That young girl calling drivers 'tools' probably goes some way to explain why you are struggling for drivers. 😂
Poor choice of words, but anger shouldn't be levelled at her. Its heartbreaking watching normal people having to wade through the mass of lies they were fed. There should be a day of reckoning for those who caused this mess with zero plan and less empathy
@@rorytclancy Thank you for bravely highlighting this issue Rory. Every day millions of internet users lose their sense of humor and it's no laughing matter. Wishing you all the best.
@@M3rVsT4H
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂 god bless Brexit hahahaha.
Her Dad is probably the boss, and has been brought up thinking we’re all disposable employees.
@@rorytclancy make way for king Stobart, let the big boys in, clear the dead wood, lets have it all.
Haulage companies made massive profits by exploiting cheap foreign labour, now they have to pay the price of having no locals to replace them.
I think you mean all companies
Quite a few ex lorry drivers now driving trains with my employer, much better wages and conditions.
Sadly we will all pay the price when supply for the demand is low and inflation for basic food stuffs hikes :-(
@@TheQuimlicker Yep, will be just like when corona hit and everyone will be panic buying.
@@TheQuimlicker And if your worried go get a LGV licence and drive then,
The drivers technically never left they just stayed where they were operating all along which was inside the EU.
Of course they left ... they were in Britain working for British companies, many delivering only within the UK and never entering continental Europe.
Now those drivers found work in the EU so they won't come back again to drive for British companies
@@martinwebb1681 Actually you are both right. Some lived in the UK, a lot just used to run the mainland Europe to the UK routes. Considering the extra work and time involved, and most importantly lack of predicability - bhow long such journey can take - no driver/European transit company prefers such jobs. Business does not like uncertainty and Brexit brought it in spades.
@@cuckingfunt9353 yes but the prices in the stores also go up because of it. So don't be laughing that hard because the rest will feel it in there pocket. There wages are not going up.
@@peterboersma338 Tell it to the truck drivers. . . Everyone has a right to a living wage... The reason why we have a shortage of drivers is because they couldn't live on the wage and left the industry.
Should have paid a decent wage rather than relying on cheap labour, you deserve everything you get
Welcome to Capitalism
Someone has written a job advertisement that quite accurately portrays a HGV drivers week but in the context of an office job.
Any takers?
*** WANTED ***
Office staff.
Hrs 9am -12 midnight 3 times a week
9am - 10pm 2 days a week.
Will be required to sit at your desk for up to 4.5hrs at a time then take a 45min break which you won't be paid for but must stay in the vicinity of your desk.
Customers are well within their rights to talk down to you, abuse you and generally be awkward. There is nothing you can do about this and should you attempt to defend yourself you will be reported.
Expect any mistakes to be videod and splashed all over social media.
Should you run out of time whilst carrying out your tasks you will be expected to sleep behind your desk.
We cannot guarantee desk security and you may be held responsible should anything go missing.
Toilet facilities are limited, no canteen, or shops nearby.
When busy you will be expected to work Saturday mornings after sleeping behind your desk all week. It doesn't matter if you have a family. You must always put work first.
Also, any error in judgement may result in a large fine, jail sentence or even death of a member of public (which you will be accountable for) or yourself.
Salary £10-£15ph.
I wonder how many applicants this job would get?..........You want to be a Trucker ?
Spot on pal! You'd be better off packing fudge in a sweet factory better paid better hours and treated with more respect. I'm glad I'm out of it
You forgot the bit about any member of the public may try and force you to kill them at any moment by crashing any desk they can find into your desk.
That is spot on
If by any chance you think of the idea of protecting your desk you'll also have a possibility of being assaulted or killed.
Maybe the truck industry should pay driver more money instead of ripping them off.
They get paid pretty decent
Take that back roughly £12-13 an hour
@@zacstarkey1369 they should be at least £20-£23 an hour.
Dangerous job.
Or maybe we shouldn’t have left the EU! I’ve run a haulage company, the margins are so tight on haulage that increasing driver pay would make the business uncompetitive so they’d have no jobs as the business would fold.
@@zacstarkey1369 look harder, Eddie Stobart pays £10.20. You can get paid more stacking shelves in Tesco (really).
Well you had cheap drivers, now you’ll have to pay decent money
and find proper drivers
It isnt entirely down to the haulage companies. If people like Wincanton sit down with Tesco, Tesco will tell them what they will pay. They have it worked out and are prepared to pay a margin of 3-4%, which is the lowest you can sustain over a period of time. Or at least for a volume operator, smaller general haulage outfits can't survive on that.
The only answer would be for hauliers to turn round and say they aren't working for that and to pay drivers more they need to have a rate rise, even 8f the margin stays the same.
@@hilarygibson3150 yup supermarkets can suck that up, they make shit tons of profit
People have got power. I’ve a class 1. Am not going to use it though & ive got lots of colleagues in same boat. If there were jobs 8/9 hours a day paying 15/20 an hour no nights away people would be interested. Haulage is stuck in the dark ages.
@@billhanson4921 Supermarket profit margins typically range from 1 percent to 3 percent...
Theres not a driver shortage, there a paying a decent wage shortage
Why would some one drive a hgv for £15 hour when you can get £13 driving a van
I am on £11 an hour I can only dream of earning £15 an hour
exactly.... 10 times the responsibility and fuck all pay..... not on.
So the simple solution is to pay them more. Excellent. Go ahead. It might work especially for your local work force that in qualified but prefered to be unemployed due to financial reasons
i was on about 9 an hour, 10 years and cant see myself going back ever
Just right. Every economist claims all problems should be fixed by the market, but somehow the same individuals loose all confidence in the same market theory when it comes to paying workers a bit more.
People voted for non-UK nationals to not be "stealing their jobs", for stricter control on the border and for Brussels to stay out of UK affairs. They got exactly what they wanted.
But Britain is the most multicultural country's out there . It's been concured by the Romans the Vikings and others. That would have to nearly kick everyone out .
What will the Brexiteers think when we're forced to start giving easy visas to Africans and Indians to come over here to become minimum wage workers.
@@DRIIC-qw8us their not that stupid, they watched the euros.
This is what happens when you don´t pay a decent wage but instead have relied on cheep labor from poorer countries to carry your company, the transport companies have been raking it in for years thanks to to cheep EU labor and now that labor has gone home they realise they have to pay a decent wage to get the workers in
Spot on
Some of the chaps from Poland and such places I follow have said the wages are better back home than here so there's not much point in them toiling away here when they can have higher pay and better working conditions back home. Kinda eye opening when ya consider countries only run because of jobs like truck driving.
The country was built like most developed nations on getting cheap labour to do the jobs locals won’t. In earlier centuries it was the Irish who built the canals and the railways in the UK. This has nothing to do with the EU. If hauliers pay more, they charge the supermarkets more, and then you pay the supermarket in higher food prices. It’s always easy to say pay more, but in the end it’s you that will pay.
It's tough having to pay a wage suitable for the UK and having to train new young drivers, when you're used to unlimited cheap labour that can be treated like shit
Well the solution is simple. Increase wages. Food prices will have to go up as a result. Also, you'll get a lot more immigrants from other countries wanting to come here to do the jobs.
They want to keep the status quo, though, masses of EU slaves working their backs off for peanuts. They actually believe we were totally ignorant of potential problems like this.wE wArNeD tHeM tHiS wOuLd HaPpEn! All short-term ones at that. We will adjust to the reality, if they can't then why don't they all just fuck off to their beloved leftist eu homeland and leave us be?
It’s interesting watching this. Brexit was one thing and then COVID has been the icing on the cake. Cheaper foreign workers are never going to come back. Companies will have to retain and train up new workers. This costs money, they are competing for workers in the market!
@@markeh1971 yep, exactly what we voted for.
@@DRIIC-qw8us if wages are up then people can pay a little more for food and overall will still be better off. Also nothing wrong with immigration, we need immigration, just not the unlimited low skilled immigration that has led to permanently low wages and no training for young people.
It's almost like tearing up your entire trade network integrated within Europe over the past 50 years wasn't the smartest idea.
I'm surprised that we have a transport network the way the drivers are treated.
Well when your whole business model relies on stealing EU workers and making UK workers pay for their own expensive training what do people expect. The industry has tried to do it on the cheap...there are plenty of drivers out their, just few have £10000+ to drop on training and the ones that usually do, don't need to be a trucker because they already have better paying jobs. The industry needs to stop cheaping out and ACTUALLY PAY FOR BRITS TO BE TRAINED....That's how they fix it.
@@brokeandtired That's the British business model, poaching other peoples skilled workers. Training is non existent unless absolutely necessary and as a factory based maintenance engineer I should be constantly in a Training cycle but has been years since I have on a training course that is not legally required ie flt.
@@brokeandtired There is an enormous number of truck drivers out there doing other jobs because the East European's are willing to drive the trucks for £9 an hour. It is much easier cheaper to get a truck license in Romania and a single man can live right out of the cab for months on end. An British worker with a family cannot afford to live on the wage in the UK he needs to pay a mortgage.
@@cuckingfunt9353 That’s capitalism, you want to get rid of capitalism?
@@Dennis-gr8ex
Yes.
"Drivers are our tools," according to this girl.
And you thought "human resources" was an insulting term.
Girl,that says it all no clue what she's doing
@@simonflood259 and they near asked how much they where paying there drivers,
You will always be numbers to a business. Your 1 body that gets compensated x money to make us y money. Simple math. Simple business principles. It’s laws and society that place the emphasis on work and employees themselves who feel entitled to the compensation. I always get angry at co-workers who complain about the pay. No one holds you hostage or forces you to accept a job. You know what your getting. If you don’t like it, quit. Companies can’t survive without employees. So it’s simply the bottom line a company will take, and that you except. Nothing more. Yes small companies can get more personal but the bigger you get the worse it gets. No two ways around it. Can’t exactly worry about John’s when they’re is 1,000 John’s in your company. It’s human nature to have a greater care for those you work closely with but feel far less empathy for those you don’t. You don’t truly care for the workers who don’t work for you or affect you in your life. So to say you are logistical value to a company is true. Otherwise your not a business that is around to make profit. If humanity truly was a concern with business then nobody would have to work. They only care enough for you to accept a job and for them to stay complaint in laws and not get sued or fined. I am not a business owner, but if I took a risk to start a business and I had crappy workers. I’m truly am not going to care if they have kids at home when I fire them. It’s me who accepts all the debt and responsibilities not the workers. When something bad happens the company gets fined or sued not the worker. Not unless the worker themselves somehow broke a law that makes them liable. Even then the business will still get hit to. Many employees have ruined business so owners will have a propensity to be less tolerant to workers. Even more so when the owners are share holders who don’t know any of the workers. Just the CEO and Executives.
because you people see "tool" as a negative thing... you need a hammer (tool) to hammer nails in... no hammer, no nails going to where they need to be... no drivers(tools) means no trucks is going to where they need to be... tools are GOOD things.
BEING a tool (a-hole) is a completely different story but you have a whole PILE of them in the goverment... check out pictures of your goverment now and then how they looked 40 years ago... notice a difference? yeah?
@@LiLBitsDK what you just said is known as ‘sophistry’. Creating a bullshit explanation that sounds plausible, but misses the point entirely.
Humans are not, and never will be, ‘tools’. Humans excelled in nature because we make ‘tools’ not because we are.
"Drivers are your tools" Says it all really.
oh yes wish i could show the bloody tools we get in our depot , the shunters are under stress
Oh no! now they will have to hire locals for a reasonable wage :O
Had a look at the unemployment numbers for the UK? They're near rock bottom. Finding locals to do that work is going to become harder and harder. The UK is one of the few countries which doesn't have to complain about foreigners taking the jobs of the natives: there's not enough natives for the size of the economy.
@@jukahri Who's complaining about foreigners? Unemployment numbers don't mean shit fyi. Each new government just massages the figures so they can say they've made a difference. If you can't see the many people that are desperate for good work since the government destroyed their livelyhoods with this whole lockdown nonsense then your are either blind or have just stopped caring
@@Hardwayistheonlyway Oh no, the locals will have to start working...
I'm a class 1 driver of 20 years service myself and I am sick of being treated like a tool. That is why I got out of the driving industry 2-years ago and will never go back. Too many drivers have been treated like you have just stepped on them and are sick of it. I'm sorry to say this but you get what you deserve. Give drivers better pay more reasonable hours so they have a live outside of work and treat them with respect and you will get respect back. If drivers are ten a penny then why is there such a big shortage 🤔🤔🤔🤔 because you have treated them like shit and they don't want to do it anymore . Remember life is like a playground it swings in roundabouts and it has caught up with all the haulage industries sorry guys you have only got yourselves to blame ☹️☹️☹️
When I took my test 15 years ago there was talk of £15 an hour now your lucky to get £10. No wonder everyone is leaving to go back home to EU countries.
@@bencarter2334 yep that's true and you also find that the whole entire haulage industry is full of lies and threats if you don't do the job.
I agree with you,
Respect and better salary,for drivers
100 percent m8 i was working cross channel spain germany etc for over 18 yrs before i retired and took ealry reduncay from my local firm in mallusk belfast..i was able to clear easy 3k per month but the last 2yrs before i retired they even with the dirty scab unions in their back pocket with back handers like free cars and hoildays i know some got agreed to pay us ll off and take redunacy which was amazing for me due to my time working....but they told all drivers they had 1st dabs of the jobs through local agency who paid them less that half their wage and they took the rest..or line manager told us all the info..now they are fooked as all their eu drivers quit and they are struggling even the agency folded lol
@@simonlongman4509 I can imagine, there are other sectors like that as well and usually the less well paid. Its OK to be a remainer on a nice salary with all the perks but there is little left for less well paid apart from the labour threat. Now the shoe is on the other foot and the real cost of labour is going to put a hole in the remainers pockets. To be honest its about time too. The whole of the EU appears to based on cheap labour!
driving in the 80s and 90s when haulage companies and warehouses were literally sacking english workers in favour of every body else and their uncles for half the pay, REAP WHAT YOUVE SOWN
Yeah these companies should of course pay for this, there is now law for corporations to expolit these things because they can.
You will be the same person complaining when food prices goes up
Exactly. Exploitation of cheap labour comes back to bite the sharks who made a fortune from it. Pay the drivers what they are worth and you won't have a shortage.
well said
@@clarkchavez7053 go get a HGV license if your that worried
The companies paying a decent WAGE are NOT short of drivers👍🏼
I make you a 100% right
Too right. It's not the lack of drivers, it's the lack of cheap EU drivers who did the job for a lollipop, a balloon And a free tank of diesel. They were the ones forcing drivers wage's down and all the white shirt wearing, management Plebs were awarding themselves huge salaries and bonuses at the UK drivers expense. They've only got themselves to blame.
The top haulage company's have recognised this and are now paying their drivers money commensurate with the essential work they do. They've not short of highly paid, highly experienced professionals drivers.
Royal Mail have no shortage because they pay a very good rate as do Manpower Services these people that moan have to move on into 2021 paying a lot more hourly rate or tough and they’ll go under
100% spot on, my boss looks after his lads, always has, no driver shortage in our place.
But the cost of your food will be expensive if they pay drivers more so a bottle of coke cost £2 now so if they have to pay drivers more then they will have no choice but charge you £10 because they need to cover the cost
When the industry delivers the WAGES, drivers will deliver the GOODS.
Wage is already 55-60% of the contract.
@@a4yster So what! Companies are using low wages to get contracts, hence the Boss shows up for work in a Bentley and his drivers rock up Ladas
Not with so many British super truckers around..
Problem is, although there is a shortage of drivers, the haulier companies still won't pay them a proper wage
Their "business model" is based on exploiting drivers, if they were to pay decent wages their profits would go down, unacceptable.
There isn't a shortage of people with LGV licences. There's just a shortage of people willing to be treated like dirt for crap money.
Not the hauliers Smooz it's the greedy companies they haul for , at least we have he comfort of knowing the brexiteers will be paying through the nose same as the rest of us when prices go up even more than they have do
more than they have done last 18 months.
Its easier to shift blame and lobby for subsidies.
@@skelly790 - Actually , before brExit , there was a shortage of about 50,000 drivers according to the trade magazines . Germany were short about 40,000 , although I imagine that’s been slightly ameliorated now .
Headline: Brexit means we may have to pay drivers a living wage with reasonable hours as all the cheap foreign labour has gone home.
Which in turn means increased cost passed on to the consumer.
@@trrexxx Or the bosses and shareholders could take a little less money for themselves. Now there's a crazy idea eh?!
I have a few eastern European friends, they will tell you honestly. They only work here because the pay is much better than in Poland. They want to take every penny they can afford to spare back too Eastern Europe. This means the Ex chequer is losing revenue to abroad.
They do not have a family to feed. They will live a very frugal lifestyle and in 3-4 years in Britain they can buy very nice lifestyle in their home country.
As a patriot I do not want British labourers too suffer due to internationalism and the excess's of international corporatism.
Prices will go up but they will go back down again, due to the fact that supermarkets compete against each other, and the customer will be attracted too the supermarket that provides the best value.
@@studentaviator3756 Indeed. No problem with people coming over here to work, we had a lot of that in my former industry, construction. I think you are right about the price thing, they'll soon start trying to undercut the competition.
@@WanderingHusk take less money for the good of everyone? spoken like a true socialist
'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party
😂
I can’t !!
Thank you for making me laugh my head off. (Better than getting it eaten by a leopard!)
Oh! That was funny!
Good one!
"No one expected the food chain supply to be under such strain ..."
YEs they did! Yes thy did. You were all warned.
2014 - “Many members’ depots are telling the FTA that they are short by 5-10 drivers, and driver agencies are informing us that they could do with 10 plus per branch,” an FTA spokesperson told The Loadstar. “What we can definitely say is that new licence acquisitions were down 24% in 2013 compared with 2008 - in numbers, that’s about 7,000 fewer.” 2015 - As long as he keeps on passing the fitness test, Mel Gwyn will be driving lorries.
At 56, he personifies an industry that is experienced but top heavy, with nearly half of drivers on domestic routes aged over 50.
In the past five years, HGV licence applications have dropped by more than 32,000.
The cost of getting the licence is putting potential young drivers off.
Those left consist of mostly older drivers changing careers, with more than 13,000 working truckers already aged over 65. they had warnings years ago but did nothing, thats the reason !
The joke.
Professional Driver £10ph.
Call a professional lock Smith, roofer, engineer, any Professional, and ask them if they will service you for £10 pH.
This shortage of driver's is a easy fix, pay them what there due
I paid 2k to get my class 1, why did I waste my money to be paid £10:50ph? I only lasted 4 months driving attics. Driving volumetric lorry now, being paid £2.50ph more.
@@JJLUA-cam
Yes just tell them you have millions for trucks and trailers.
Millions for the cargo in those trailers.
I need £25ph days double time after 8hrs.
Nights are £40 double time after 8hrs.
When they say no, just say you drive it then.
Evey truck driver complaints about the money but keeps driving for the money.
@@JJLUA-cam same as you mate. Used my class 1 for about 5 weeks. Kipping in laybys, waiting 3.5 hours to get unloaded, foot to the floor to barely make it home within the hours and never seeing the Mrs and kids.
Drive class 2 hiab now for £1 an hour more and never looked back.
@@JJLUA-cam I've got my class 2 and for the past 2 years I've been driving a 7.5t recovery truck and get paid substantially more than most class 2 jobs are offering... Also being a recovery truck there's no tacho nonsense to abide by keeping the work nice and simple and not worrying if I'm going to have enough driving time left to get home.
@@ifyouvote.5005
I didn't, I walked out at the start of a shift and never went back
Had you been paying a fair wage your workforce would have been British drivers, relying on cheap labour is your own doing, reaping what you sowed, a lot of British drivers went and trained in a different job with proper pay.
No sympathy for employers who have been milking the cheap labour market, boo hoo.
If you think anybody but UK consumers are going to pay for the increased shipping costs you are economically illiterate.
@@Sphere723 They are going to have to if they want to eat, thats how economics work.
what u talking about, drivers have standart salaries, what u expect them get paid same as doctor? english just all want bullshit offcie job where they are doing nothing at all thats whu there is shortage
There are plenty of drivers out their, just few have £10000+ to drop on training and the ones that usually do, don't need to be a trucker because they already have better paying jobs. The industry needs to stop cheaping out and ACTUALLY PAY FOR BRITS TO BE TRAINED....That's how they fix it.
@@MostIntelligentMan dumbest opinion ever😂 seriously where do loons like you come up with this?
"If only somebody had told us how it was going to be" they said, to the people that told them exactly how this was all going to be.
What they mean is, if only someone on MY SIDE had tol me what it's going to be.
But of course they wouldn't. Otherwise you wouldn't have voted for them.
They weren't just told they laughed at and ridiculed the people telling them.
You just don't get do you, we no everything but we will be ok as we've had nothing for 16 year's we've lost nothing but you lot 😂😂😂
@@668725 Sorry I don't understand what you are saying. Who are 'We' and what 'nothing' did we not loose?
@RizZy2B Eh? do you actually, in all seriousness, believe that shit that you just wrote?
Isn't that what the British wanted, all the low paid, crazy hours jobs for themselves? Why are they not taking them? 😅
They only became low paid jobs because of the abundance of foreigners who were willing to undercut British drivers, which was another reason for Brexit. Now most of the foreign drivers have gone, British hauliers will have to improve driver remuneration in order to ATTRACT drivers again. The hauliers are still needed to keep the retail industry supplied, as are the drivers. The hauliers will just have to pay drivers a fair salary. 🖕
@@hermanmunster3358 It was not the foreigners who set the rules; it was your fellow British people. Clearly, you are one of those tools the young lady talked about. Middle finger to you too.
@@daromacleod EXACTLY, which is why we elected a government that would deliver Brexit you tit!
And LieBour lost in 2010 for allowing it in the first place. So I would say, the general consensus seems to be that, MOST people want a more robust immigration policy, to only allow people who can support themselves, without relying on the state. In turn, reducing the pressure on housing and infrastructure.
But you being a bit dim, can't see that, can you Cherub!xx
@@hermanmunster3358 clearly, you are not aware that the EU expats, on average, were contributing to the UK budget some 30% more than they were taking out of it. Besides, I have worked in the social care sector and most people claiming benefits and using the social services were British. Therefore, I am happy to say that you are talking pooh, you know, the stuff that you and your ignorant pals are full of.
No, they wanted an and to the cheap labour.
Wages have been stagnant for years and years now. But all a sudden now this cheap labour is diminishing, I've just had a 22% pay rise!
Wages are finally rising, and we can recruit our own instead of relying on flip flopski.
So brexit is a great success for WORKERS.
3:45 "I don't think anyone expected the food supply chain to be under stress because of Brexit." REALLY? Are you sure about that? I mean, we Remoaners kept telling everyone.
Brexiteers are brain dead.
Exactly. You kept predicting everything from famine to 1000 years of floods. That's why nobody takes you seriously.
@@user-xv4id9xx7u No they didn't. They said flat out that trucking would be screwed. Drivers and customs would cause weeks of hold ups.
@@user-xv4id9xx7u no one but you said floods. Very poor people going hungry is all too likely in a food shortage but you won’t see it because you’re wearing your blinders.
I like how remainers are called remoaners but we keep seeing videos of brexiters moaning everyday.
The most acute shortage is a shortage of responsible competent politicians/ministers in Tory government. All other post-Brexit problems and shortages are the result of this primary problem.
You think another British government could magick some more drivers or fasten the EU side of the process at the border? Leave means the UK is now a third country and nothing changes that. Except opening up the borders and accepting EU standards and rules in exchagne for free trade.
So we can import them from China, Russia, Brazil. Problem solved.
Alexander Vollmer Sounds like blackmail to me
@@iscadean6038 Why import? and why from China, Russia, Brazil?
don't you believe in Great Britain you can find decent, clever and competent people to run the conutry?
the problem is not a shortage of decent competent people in the country,
the problem is lack of them in the current awkward Johnson's Government
Really embarasing.
@@AlexanderVollmer Anyway, as we see, all those incompetent Downing Street dwellers, who created this mess , are neither prepared nor capable to sort it out.
the only things they offer are windows dressings, waiving flags and empty slogans for deluded dummies. As long as they are in power, real Brexit-related problems will not 'get sorted'.
"nobody had the understanding..." Except the experts whom nobody wanted to listen to.
We were instructed NOT to listen to them. Plenty of idiots obeyed.
We've had enough of experts. That nice Mr Gove said so, so it must be true.
It is always a great idea to have a vote on stuff you do not understand the concequences of.
Nothing wrong with that concept at all.
17 million remainers - you didn’t need to be an expert to know that Brexit ( what ever it was, is, and might be) was going to be sh*t.
As the old saying goes : “ if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it”
But what the **ck where Brexshiteers trying to fix? With what objective? And why where they do delusional and why did they refuse to at least first check what was reality
Experts poisoned their well by making absolutely ludicrous predictions. Still waiting for the 800.000 jobs lost on the back of the Leave vote. Oops, the UK economy continued to outperform the Eurozone and the unemployment continued to go down. Who in their right mind would listen to these "experts"?
So it turns out the EU drivers worked hard and contributed to the UK economy and didn’t stay here to claim benefits
WTF? Nobody expected these problems? All the current issues have been made clear before the Brexit vote and after. Yellowhammer has been on the table for years already and that was the best case scenario.
I love it where he says "I don't think the Government ministers understood their own legislation" durgh! You think!?!🤦 No matter how many times in Parliament, in committee's, in the press, and in public it was raised time and time again. Let's not forget what Boris Johnson said when Theresa May was PM "no Prime Minister would vote for a border on the island of Ireland"..... What does who do..... He also said "there will be NO customs checks. If anyone tells you otherwise, call me!"
People voted for the Conservatives AND Brexit Party based on LIES. Project fear was project truth. "Get Brexit Done"? STILL we don't know what THAT means! None of them do! And they don't give a 💩. They never had a plan whatsoever, and still don't.
Whoever it is, whether farmers or what, who says something like "we didn't understand how complicated it was" about their OWN INDUSTRY...I wonder how they managed to have a business at all. Oh, that's right...they inherited it from daddy. 🤔
It'll sort itself out - haulers will have to raise prices and wages and drivers will come. That will raise prices of all products and harm international competitiveness but shortages will be temporary.
Before we start blaming Brexit and EU drivers that have returned home, we need to realise that there are approximately 70,000 HGV licence holders in the UK that do not want to drive lorries. Me included.
The conditions are awful, the hours are long, the CPC is a pain, you don't load your lorry but if you are overweight then the driver gets a fine not the loaders, you get messed about when you arrive at your delivery point, nights out in lay-by's that stink of urine, no toilet facilities and all for £12 an hour. There are better things to do, like driving a forklift.
Improve conditions and some of the available 70,000 drivers may return.
Even if we grant everything you said as 100% correct, it doesn't negate that Brexit absolutely caused this situation. The conditions didn't suddenly start at Brexit, but the shortages did. At best all that can be claimed is that Brexit gave more exposure to the working conditions by causing this situation.
@@joshuapowers4623 that’s very short sighted of you, there are literally 100’s of comments from qualified hgv drivers stating they would never return to the industry due to pay and conditions and your saying that’s not the problem, I work in the construction industry and it’s very similar however a lot of Eastern European workers where going home long before brexit because they could earn more at home and work in better environments. The whole country across the board has been driving down pay and conditions for years knowing that there was a surplus of cheap Labour to replace you with. Now that’s gone and people are starting to see how bad things really are
I have a hgv license that I don't use never got paid over £10 pound an hour driving the only reason you made money was because your doing 60-70 hours a week
@@joshuapowers4623 There is no shortage of drivers, if you read my comment you will see that I clearly state that there are 70,000 qualified drivers who will not drive a lorry. That's not down to Brexit, however hard you try and make a case for it.
Before Brexit we thought we had 3,000,000 EU citizens working in the UK. When the government did the stats, the registration of EU citizens working in the UK there was over 5,000,000. Are you suggesting that the only lorry drivers left?
I work in the waste industry and the drivers who take away our waste, metals and cardboard could be fired if they're 1 tonne (1000kg) overweight.
'Nobody could have envisioned consequences to our actions'.
British exceptionalism at it's finest.
only the rest of United Europe and the rest of the World :))
@BcA - Biciclind cu Axel A lot of us in the UK predicted it would happen too. Almost half of the population voted against Brexit. 48% voted to stay in the EU & we said this would happen, but we were called scare mongers & ridiculed. We're all stronger together, we should never have left. The problem is the Leave campaign lied through their back teeth, such as saying that the money sent to the EU could go to our health service, & people blindly trusted them. There was a huge shock when it was all revealed to be lies, but why were some people so gullible? I'm heart-broken at what's happened. I've had the privilege of living, working & studying in Europe, it was so easy to do. On school holidays, I simply got a ferry to France that headed my car wherever I fancied. I was a foreign languages teacher so visited continental Europe regularly to keep up with my language skills. Nothing held me back & I was free to travel everywhere in Europe. Future generations will find it a lot more difficult. The older generation has basically screwed over the younger, & that's appalling. I have never been able to see a single benefit to splitting from the EU, there are only negative consequences. I defy anyone to convince me that Brexit was not a catastrophe for both the EU & the UK. I am a European first & foremost, & English second.
Why are these same shortages elsewhere in the world? The answer is global lοςκδοωn.
Strange, the EU did made accurate reports about the consequences of Brexit. The difference is that the EU is run by civil servants that are paid to do a good job. The UK is run by politicians who are elected by making false promises.
@@dirkvandaele4466 The UK is corrupt as heck, but the problem is widespread so it is not a purely UK issue. Factories were interrupted on all continents last year (not Antarctica!), as was harvesting... And now we are going to have to deal with the problems created by forcibly stopping billions of people worldwide from trading (without proper debt protection in most cases).
Now brits can do all different job themself, was'nt this whole idea of brexit?
Welcome from Finland!
@Kevin Ward now you can fix it or what the problem???
Dont like eastern europeans who shere anyway more or less same cultural backround ok...now UK will turn muslim country eaven faster, sad but truth.
There is no shortage of drivers, more like shortages of good company's that pay the right money and treat their workers well.
"We know what we voted for"
Yep. Spam for dinner.
They’ll be lucky to have spam. Now, who wants this fried flag?
We can expect that Britain is going to need food aid just like Africa does
Spam is okay, if you haven't eaten for a week.
Spam spam spam spam Monty Python 😂😂😂 comes to mind
Unfortunately no Spam. Priti Patel denied the Vikings entry at Dover.
Hmm, I wonder how much of the shortage is due to insultingly low wages.
The casualised, agency work situation associated with the haulage industry is a major turn-off as well. Most people like to work regular hours for the same company from one month to the next. Also, forcing drivers to accept self-employed terms and conditions so companies can wash their hands of any overheads associated with their drivers doesn't help the situation either.
A lot of it is due to low pay. But the catch is these industries Have low profit margins. A lot of these companies are barely profitable.
driving an HGV wages start at £35k and that is for drivers who go home every evening. Trans European hauliers earn up to 60K.
@@MrWhitmojsherpa You won't get anywhere near 35k for class 1 jobs in general haulage in the central belt of Scotland and the misuse of POA by companies will often mean you're working more than 60 hours a week for peanuts.
Thats an 'operations manager'? Yeah, can see the experience gained over the years.
The sooner we can get rid of this incompetent government, the better. The longer we leave it, the more expensive it will be to recover from.
They'd win again tomorrow if we had a vote.The whole Brexit issue will cause damage for the next 50 years at least and the media is barely scratching the surface of the immediate problems.
@@CHUTNEX methinks too, any chance of rebuiling england is in the education of the next generation...
Recover?.....
the more expensive? Friend your country borders at the CAN NOT RECOVER ANYMORE edge since about 4 years? NOW theres a pandemic AND brexit was STILL pushed through. Practically NO DEAL even if there is a flimsy little paper that Johnson came waving happily arround like a school report...If YOUR COUNTRY AND ITS PEOPLE ARENT CAREFULL very VERY fast...this ends in FAR WORSE than just...a BILL to pay back. Scottland want to have a referendum. Northern Irland thrown under the bus. And the CURRENT government is actively encouraging the spliting apart of people and interests because they deem itr the only way of holding the votes of the extreme voterbase they now rely on...
This will get VERY BAD/SAD before it gets better we know that because ALL OF HISTORY EVER shows us theat is how it WILL go.
@željko šimić Yes, but the politicians lied to the public and made promises they could never honour.
"It's easier to fool a person, than it is to convince them they've been fooled."
Mark Twain...Smart guy for sure.
British drivers are laughing... Their wages have been stagnant or worse for decades... Now their pay shooting up like a rocket ! Another Brexit win for the poor working man.
I'm in the building trade... It's never been better... Voting Brexit was the best thing I ever did.
Mark twain
@@cuckingfunt9353 I’m a carpenter my work load has tripled on new build I have had to hire I’m to stretched Brexit Yeh Boi!!! Go Britain 🇬🇧
Sorry to be a smartass : This is why I voted remain among other blatantly obvious reasons. You can't eat jingoism.
The thing is, it would be nice to think we were somehow geniuses who could navigate the complex issues and make the right choice.
BUT NO - it was blatantly obvious it would be a total disaster, you had to LITERALLY ignore ALL available evidence and vote on bigotry alone.
Well said Mate
You can! It is also sadly known as Cannibalism.
Have you already tried jingoism with some sovereignty on top?
@@scottlette the Hunger Games, Brexit Edition
Isn't it great to be an independed country that can choose to not drive trucks?
Imaginative solution to the problem: Improve the pay and conditions of truck drivers. Simples!
Driver shortages may be the least of the UKs worries, when the UK implements border checks as they should be doing, food shortages will increase substantially.
It doesn't even include the shortage of pickers and farm workers either.
Not to worry, they've hired six more custom officers
Well, at least it would relieve the shortage of drivers; less food means less need for drivers.....
@@czarekp3552 Have they hired enough vets?
ohh even better. So far dutch and french border officials have ignored pallet markings (the wood pallets used to place the food/stuff on). The pallets need to be stamped to prove the origin of the wood used. And 90% or so of the pallets are not. The joy of being a 3th country...
So we're told there's a shortage of drivers, but one guy is discouraging his son from becoming a driver because there's no future in it. Struggling to get my head around that contradiction.
It's not a contradiction.
They are regarded as low paid tool's, not a vital part of the economy, a tool is an inanimate object, a driver is a human being, what can't you get your head around???
Yeah, they've selectively chosen ardent ReMoaners to star in THIS video.
@@Ayrshore It is a contradiction of sorts. He is moaning about the shortage of drivers, yet advises his son NOT to become a driver himself, due to his gripes with the industry. But he doesn't go into what caused his gripes in the first place. He blames Brexit, but it is the Hauliers who are ripping off drivers, NOT Brexit.
The Hauliers have been on to a good thing for years, and are now worried they will have to pay drivers what they are worth.
You can actually earn more stocking shelves in Aldi, which is exactly where SOME drivers have gone.
@@hermanmunster3358 oh. You’re one of those. Knuckle dragger like Herman.
Anyway we moved plenty of freight forty odd years ago on the railways , I was part of the operations. We had an integrated transport system then , everything worked.
No, no, you're missing the point. The idea isn't to make sure that everything works well for the benefit of the country, it's to make sure that everything is maximally profitable for those with the wealth to invest.
Before Thatcher, there was still a Britain.
Agreed that lack of infrastructure investment is at least partly to blame. Being so reliant on road only isn’t wise.
Not true really. Made a double fortune years back. 1. Railways LOST a train loaded with Limestone for Corby Steel works...oooops. There was a convoy of tippers from Derbyshire, taking up the slack. 2. Later on,late 70's Railways LOST a train loaded with some chemical ( We called it Monkey snot ) from ICI Marchon works Whitehaven Powder tankers took up the slack here.( Convoy ).Whitehaven down to Thurrock. Procter and Gamble.cement back up anywhere in Lancashire tip reload and back again. If you care to notice. Trains CANNOT overtake think width and height restrictions.Think. Tunnels Good thinking though..... NO CIGAR,.... Kummin'THREW !! LOL.
Pay a decent wage and you’ll get a good drivers
That’s the very last thing on their minds
and pass the cost to the consumers?
Wage increases lead to price increases always have and you can bet your life that businesses wont take the hit if they can pass it on.
You still have the eu customs problem
@@ayongkot well if only the consumer was give the chance to vote for whether or not to leave the EU... oh wait
Was that "tools" or "fools?" In any case, isn't it wonderful to be referred to as a tool?
Tool means asshole in the US English
it's a good job that we've enough soverein-tea to sustain us all.
Do you take Sovereign-Tea with Gammon or Sour Grapes?
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@@shawngrinter2747 British fish!
@@nadtz ah yes, they are Happy now aren’t they.
This is classic economics 101:
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British citizen truck drivers saying, "there is no shortage - just pay us more"
British truck company owners saying, "their EU citizen drivers have left and there is a shortage"
British citizens saying, "I'm willing to work as a driver - if they pay properly"
British News reporting, "product shortages and inflation."
British Citizen consumers saying, "Prices of day-to-day products are going up! This is bad!"
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These statements are all related. This has happened so many times in the past and Covid has exacerbated the situation. Simply study Economics 101 and you will see the interrelation in a disciplined manner. This is a pure lesson in supply and demand resulting in inflation.
"I don't understand why I fell, all I did was saw the branch I was sitting on."
@@cuckingfunt9353 sure. Much in the same way that it's a win if you witness someone getting killed and you run away with the corpse's wallet. Your "win" is collateral damage, and don't worry : the cost will be put back on the customers, which is you.
@@TheNefastor Tell it to the truck drivers. . . Everyone has a right to a living wage... The reason why we have a shortage of drivers is because they couldn't live on the wage and left the industry.
@@TheNefastor You have had over 5 million EU workers stay on!! The UK has not earned its living in the world for the last 20 years despite mass immigration and being in the EU. You have no answer to offer except more of the same failed experiment
@@xtc2v I have no idea what you're trying to say. "5 million EU workers stay on" where ? It sounds like you're complaining about the UK not pulling its own weight in the EU. Did you, by any chance, mistake me for a brexiter ? To be perfectly clear, I'm not. I'm French, I wanted the UK to stay in the EU, however I'm not going to suck its dick : you want out, you're out, and don't expect a special treatment, is my position in a nutshell.
@@cuckingfunt9353 oh I agree about wages, but why blame the EU ? In case you've missed it, millions of manufacturing jobs disappeared from the UK when we all started using China as a factory. That sort of thing can happen when you trade with different countries all over the world, as I'm sure brexiters will be surprised to find out. Anyway, what happened to your first comment ?
Many drivers are going to Germany. Same pay, lower rent, and respect for drivers.
Lots of driver's went to Canada including me totally different lifestyle,don't pay to park free showers etc etc
And driving on the correct side of the road :p
This is what happens when you can't be bothered to train new drivers use cheap eastern European labour for years the industry has had over 4 years to do a lot more than it has hoping that the UK wouldn't leave so in a nutshell it's the operators fault ..... Pay a long overdue decent wage or park up the flashy metal !
Exactly!! Now whinge time, even new drivers can’t get jobs as look at any class 1 or 2 job vacancy and about 90 percent will ask for at least 6 months experience some a year, you can’t get experience if you can’t get a job…. Idiots!
most sensible reply on here. The rest are moaning about the past
You are spot on. The Remoaners don't do nasty manual things like drive trucks, so haven't a bloody clue between them. Comments on here from people who drive a computer all day are priceless. We should ensure no Remainers are fed by those nasty Brexity lorry drivers that are still here, and only Leavers get the available produce. Then they'll all finally push off to the EU where they can sit around and sing kumbaya in Polish.
Unfortunately, the shops are stuffed with food, so it's a non story along with WW3 breaking out, house prices collapsing and super-gonorrhea running rampant if we dared to leave a trading bloc.
@@chairmakerPete That was the best comment on the internet so far.
@@terajuana Notice how the remainers wont dare reply to his post !
I love when people realise their mistakes after they done it
Brexit wasn't a mistake. Creating a dependency on cheap foreign labour was.
I agree, such a mistake to you cheap labour.
Maybe if you thought more of your drivers as human beings and not “tools” they’d have kept them
Exactly. The bloke from the lobbying group has never driven anything bigger than a Mini. A few cold night in a layby would teach him why nobody's coming into the job with anti-social hours, no amenities, minimal wages and no prospects.
These people are too stupid to stay in business.
Raise. The. Wages. Works every time.
I'd like to get into trucking but sadly it's impossible for me due to disability. Over the past year I've seen all the support the NHS heroes shit and can't help but think wait what about the lorry driver who supply all our shit. Without them even hospitals and such would he fucked. Folks like farmers and lorry drivers always seem to be forgotten despite filling some of the most vital job roles there are. I mean give me the name of someone who can live without food or stuff like electricity and clean water.
@@chairmakerPete i miss being kept awake all night in a layby, then waking up with sleep depravation, a quick baby wipe bath, and a shit in a Tesco bag, then out all week, roll in the yard Saturday, to be greeted with the words, just nip us that trailer up the road, 40 mile away, like a hole in my head.
"I don't think anybody expected the food supply chain to be under the stress it is because of brexit."
Really?
Pay the going rate and you will find plenty of drivers. Gone are the days when you can pay class1 driver £10.00ph.
Youd think, I've seen rates at £10.50 for class 1.....in 2021???
It’s definitely down to wages I remember when I first left school class 1 driver where getting around £500 a week twenty odd years later they are still getting around the same . People don’t want to drive because of the way they are treated by companies and the way the dvsa or vosa are out to rob your wages for the slightest mistake .
I've had a hgv license for over 10 years. Never used it in the last 6 years and I doubt I ever will. Much respect to the drivers still on the road. The pay/ conditions never reflected the risk, responsibility and sacrifices I made.
Agencies in Manchester are paying upwards of £15 an hour. If you've got ADR then you're looking at £50k a year just for day rates.
Brexit, another word for British xenophobia
English Exceptionalism
@@benwilson6145 And Welsh don’t forget. And one third of Scots.
No wonder David Cameron refused to allow the Brexit vote be counted per NATION as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland all requested (after all England has the majority population). The Majority of UK NATIONS voted Remain. England & Wales voted leave. Wales seemed to be against how we've left and pushed for changes but were ignored (what a surprise). So this situation really is on England's leave voter's. However, I know many who voted leave and DIDN'T vote for this. They were against Tory leave policies. They wanted Labour leave policies. Unfortunately, the press, sabotage and money made sure that never happened. People really think we live in a democracy 🤦 Now we're stuck with Tory, Tory, Tory like the last 40+ year's. We're a One Party State no matter where in the UK you live.
Why is this happening across the world, inc. the USA?
@@thursoberwick1948 well considering Farage, Trump, Johnson and Murdoch are so closely connected..... I'm not sure 🤔
they could of course pay more to attract drivers. but that's probably not an option lol
Man I was going to say sumit similar, but they wont it's all about the profit margins the firms want.
Then you'll pay more at the shops?
@@speedyhillski we will be already.... the government announced yesterday they are looking into a sugar and salt tax on food to us the consumer.
Or we will see lots of processed food leave our shelfs.
@@rct2 Supply and demand, they have to pay the market rate. Truck drivers have been shit on for decades in the UK... Now the firms will have to pay a living wage.
@@speedyhillski I'm in the building trade... It's never been better... Voting Brexit was the best thing I ever did
Forget Brexit...the EU encouraged migration from poor countries offering low wages and putting British workers on the dole.
Its a world of difference for a British guy to house and feed a family in the UK than a Romanian working here and sending money home to his family in Romania with living costs a fraction of the UK.
You do realise that romanian gay needs to feed him self i UK to.
But he still need to eat and pay flat in the UK or is it for free?
Drivers didn’t go "back home" as the lady says. They just avoid U.K. with its bureaucracy imposed by Brexit. They continue their work exactly as before, only one country less in their area of work.
Home is the EU!
Weird that there a driver shortage across the EU, given all these drivers formerly working in the UK are now available.
Its easy to find a job in the EU 27 countries. Is a huge market. ;) not like tiny isolated alone rasist hate country.
@@-BY205 British drivers are laughing... Their wages have been stagnant or worse for decades... Now their pay shooting up like a rocket ! Another Brexit win for the poor working man.
@@cuckingfunt9353 is properly not enough. Because prices shooting sky high . ;) your name is stupid by the way.
It has cost me over £1200 and four months to get my class 2 here in Northern Ireland and some companies are offering £9.80 per hour.Come on ffs
I hear you buddy👍🏼
A steel guy here wants a class 2 driver for £8:50-£12:00😂😂£8:50 crazy....you gotta laugh...stick to your guns brother💪🏼..I will not leave my house for less than £14 an hour👍🏼
They're offering class 2 in the uk Midlands 13.50ph and that was one of the highest, I'm doing my class 1 next week and seen a job for 12.50ph and felt it was cheeky, normally they're posted for 16.50-19ph class 1,but alot is gunna change in the next year and I pray its wages
That's your problem.
@@eclipsegfxable that's the industry's problem and that's why there's a shortage
"Drivers are our tools" " customers are our first priority" There you are Gal,just summed it up nicely. With that attitude no wonder you are struggling to find good employees.
i dont think this is any different in any other company. thats capitalism
Should change that to 'drivers are tools, we pay them peanuts'.
@@TheMrakic It's the attitude. I would never apply for a company that put those words down on their description. Your employees are your business partners. The good thing about capitalism is that you don't have to bend the knee to anyone. If you feel unfairly treated you quit. This doesn't happen in Socialism. You're forced to work in those countries.
@@chudchadanstud Your employees are not your business partners. Capitalists pay their employees as little as they're allowed to. That's why companies move their manufactures to cheap countries such as China, Bangladesh, Vietnam, etc.
@@arkofimagination No, they're your business partners. They offer you a service for a fee. And you both benefit. If you don't pay the fee or pay too little they leave. They outsource to China because the living expenses are lower there and therefore what's considered fair pay is lower there. In Capitalism you're your own business man.
“I don’t think anyone expected….”
Well, 48% of voters most certainly did. Well done, the 52%.
40,000 cancelled LGV test in the UK since lock down, plus there has always been a shortage of LGV drivers both here and many other countries, including in the eu, it has swfa to do with brexit.
I drove a Class 3 Street Cleaning machine for the council , 4 day 35hour 4am- 1 pm rolling week incl Saturdays Sundays 27k per annum , class 2 and above drivers 30k a year plus O/T .We had men who'd left haulage firms because of the wages and conditions who were happier and had a better family and social life .
Youve absolutely taken the p$ss out of drivers since 2008. I earned more 16 years ago. Reap what you've sewn. Wouldnt be sad to see you all go under
2000 for me i remember free coffee and tea at service station and no mobiles, lol semi retired now well just not driving not a chance
If a company can't find staff they aren't paying enough. Simple
Or . . . the government is paying them too much to sit on their arse. I come from a country that has no social security to speak of and can't tell you how whiny you guys in the first world sound.
@Edward Teach …..Don’t talk bollocks….There’s companies that value their drivers and pay them accordingly…..Then there’s the shit companies paying minimum wage and that’s why these underpaid HGV drivers have left these companies and got a job in a completely different field.
@Edward Teach…..Your still talking bollocks…..
@Edward Teach don't start the business underpaying people then if You complain about margins.
@Edward Teach everybody complains that back in the day it was a decent salary despite low margins. Now You can make more money driving a bus from A to B and be at home after 8 hours. Also, the supermarket van delivery will pay You more money and You're not self employed.
I run a Norwegian company that imports a lot of stuff from the UK. What we are seeing now is that most of our suppliers are setting up shop in the Netherlands in order to keep up with delivery times, which used to be 1-2 days from the UK. Now its over a week, and thats not good enough. It would not surprise me if they also plan to move manufacture over there, if things do not improve.
There's no shortage of Gammon.... 😉
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But would you want to eat THAT?
@Daniel Wood i like eggs with mine but am also a fan of parsley sauce lol
A lot of company's have been paying peanuts for years so hard luck. Nothing to do with brexit. It's about paying a decent wage
Of course. Tough luck with that inflation. Nothing to do with Brexit, of course 😁
With pay increases in Eastern Europe and elsewhere there’s very little point coming back especially when the pay here isn’t much better. These companies knew brexit was coming and surely should know what is now required to get drivers in. Hgv class 2 there’s a lot of people who say they are on 9.50 an hour in some places. They advise people against paying that money to get your license. When we had European drivers the pay was driven down. Now they not here they still want people to drive for poor money.
@@richwilliams9895 of course they'll want to pay as little as they can. And if they somehow pay more, it's the end of the chain that will pay for it - the consumers.
Did you listen to nothing that was said?
Then shouldnt the government introduce a living wage? Make businesses pay the right wage for skilled workers? Btw I would trust the people who run the company over someone who voted Brexit
I am from the UK, 32 years old have all my licenses, and don't drive anymore, treat us with respect dignity and pay for how valuable we are, there would not be a driver shortage! Facts!!! 12/14 an hour, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is an absolute joy to me & proof to anyone worldwide that democracy is alive & well in the UK , seeing these people reaping the democratic vote of the British people is so rewarding ! I hope they are writing , in their droves , to the European Commission thanking them for putting in place what they had asked for , with such efficiency too !