Unpopular opinion, but I think if a championship fight is a draw, then the title should become vacant. Why should the champ retain the belt if they don't actually defend it?
Regardless of the 10-8 the same judge didn’t give grasso round 4 but gave her a 10-8 in round 5. If he scored it right would have been the same outcome
@@2gully3he’s saying Grasso clearly won round 4, but the judge who gave Grasso a 10-8 in Rd 5 gave rd 4 to Valentina. If he had given round 4 to Grasso she would have won, even if he gave 10-9 for both round 4 and 5, and everyone agrees Grasso won round 4.
Round 4 was gift to Valentina. At the end of the day still a draw. Was it not a close fight? Was the champ not in control at the end of the fight? Cmon dorks
What was weird in the 5th was this: Val Dominated the striking, then gifted Alexa the takedown by goofing up what was going to be a fight-sealing takedown on Valentina’s part. My first thought was she slipped through Shevchenko’s grasp because of her blood. Second look indicated Val kinda blew it. Still, no way that was a 10-8 round.
Yep, Val definitely slipped as you rundown again. But then again, if round 3 was 9-10 where the Val nearly submitted Alexa, same judge scoring 10-8 for round 5 is absolutely insane.
@@hitmanabhi007 absolutely true. I think Val’s only weakness is not being excellent in completing her wrestling advantages. But if she worked on that too much, she’d lose her forte-striking. Grasso’s advantage is she is good at Everything. Funny thing is, Valentina didn’t even have to try that takedown. She was picking her apart on the feet. Great fight, but losing it because of a 10-8 round…. They need to have a trilogy.
VALENTINA WAS OWNING HER IN THE 5th!!!! Snapping her head back!!! Grasso didn’t land one punch for like 4 min before falling on Valentina’s back and getting some ok grazing shots!! 10-8 stop!!!! Grasso face looked like a punching bag in the 5th!!!!!
Lost 2,4 and 5. Lost 5 due to terrible fight iq, if she had just kept with the jab and circle she wins. But nope, she went to the grappling, specifically the head and arm throw… twice now she’s tried to grapple Alexa, twice she’s been shown who the boss is. Literally just jab and circle and the belt is hers
@@toziassmittShe is a fighter and went forward to finish the fight unlike that GynoSaniya who runs like a coward chicken all over the octagon to win 😂
No accountability. If she hadn't had her back taken and been nearly finished, then she would have won the fight. This loss is her fault not Mexican Independence Day 😂
@@daniellebrooks7510 I will admit, she was winning the round, but then when she got her back taken and had to be saved by the bell . . . that was Mexican Independence Day's fault?
Valentina was 3-1 up goin into the 5th then they try claim it’s a 10-8 🤷🏽♂️ what a joke I believe Valentina here they changed that to 10-8 after the fight ended after checking scorecards
Yes, there should have been a winner one way or another. Either fudge the cards even more, or score it correctly and Give it to Valentina..... but, lets be real, a mexican fighter, on mexican day.... the cards were getting fudged, and Mike Bell came out the winner.
@@COPSCheckingOurPublicServants Yes sir... I corrected that. The context of what I am getting at remains the same. The judges will fudge the score to give the crowd/ UFC what they think is wanted. All sports that go to judges are disastrous.
Valentina won the fight, took it too her every round, the aggressor, shes a phenomenal champion, way shes spoken afterwards is also exceptional, what a warrior she is.
3:30 I like Valentina, but she may want to read up on the rulebook. Not only did she say she was affected by the knees when really only one landed ok and it wasn't that hard still. She definitely WASN'T a grounded opponent. Fingers or even one full hand touching the mat doesn't constitute a grounded opponent.
The bookies didn't wanna pay out all the people that got in on Shevchenko at + money live 100% this is one of those fights that further solidifies the link between the athletic and gambling commissions, no way they didn't communicate how much was at stake to lose if that one judge didn't flub the scorecards by putting a 10-8 for Grasso in R5 and make it a draw (which essentially voids all bets and refunds everyone their money INSTEAD OF PAYING THEM ON THEIR WIN)
@@daniellebrooks7510 EXACTLY, but you know what's cheaper than paying you out your earned winnings for being a super sharp gambler that managed to play both sides at plus money to guarantee profit? Calling it a draw and pretending this sport isn't rigged so they can just refund you your money and hope you lose it next week on a different bullshit dec 😂
I’m Hispanic and I love when we have Mexican champions but I love Valentina … she always gives her best and she won … I know people with true ufc viewing experience and combat sports knowledge understand this was Valentinas fight… she’ll beat grasos in the 3rd fight easy … when you take it from some one like this… seeing her emotions … she’s gonna beat her for sure in the third … but make it on neutral grounds Las Vegas period!!! Valentina you won in the eyes of most of the ufc fans 💙👊🏻💪🏻👑🙏🏻
There are dialect and grammatical differences between Mexican Spanish and traditional Spanish. What a stupid thing to call someone out on, get a life Jarm.
if they classified the 5th round a 10-8.. then valentina should have been given a 10-8 in a couple rounds 🤣 absolutely fucking insane. fire that judge.
When Bruce said at the end 47-47 I was counting in my head how the fck that happened ? And then they showed up score cards and I saw 10-8 in fifth round and I was like MIKE BELL - you're fcking blind or something ?!
I’m going to leave this here for the people crying about the judge’s decision. These are pulled from the Unified Rules of MMA: “A score of 10 - 8 does not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for 5 minutes of a round.” Furthermore, “Judges must CONSIDER giving the score of 10 - 8 when a fighter shows dominance in the round even though no impactful scoring against the opponent was achieved.” Lastly, “Dominance in the grappling phase can be seen by fighters taking DOMINANT POSITIONS in the fight and utilizing those positions to attempt fight ending submissions or attacks.” Mike Bell was well within his right to score the last round a 10-8.
I kinda wanna ask Dana, Hunter, Sean, Mick, and all the guys up there if they can give Valentina her PPV % Points for the next Fight... Cuz I feel like she really decisively Won that and deserves it.
I think the way to fix the judging is have judges do press conferences like fighters. Not all the time but I just want to hear them think. Maybe have some sort of voting method where if everyone is in agreement that a judge fucked up, they get fined 10k. Imo, thatll never happen...judges are definitely paid off. Giving Grasso 10-8 in the 5th for a split draw so Alexa remains champ is all the proof I need
Valentina was really putting it on her in the fifth round. Grasso was tired, but it looked like she finally got the timing of Grasso and how to use her jab to take away Grasso offense. this rematch never should have happened yet, but if they fight in the future it still looks like Valentina would win if she can go first like that. i hope there isn't a re-match, however
Her mindset is so sharp. She doesn’t need the UFC, the UFC needs her. The promo and hype put into this for Grasso was ridiculous. Shevchenko has never received that kind of praise coming out the gate. Definitely one-sided on the UFC’s part.
Wow the fact that she can speak Spanish is fukin awesome She's smarter than most Americans that can't even speak their own language "English" she can speak three!! 😍 💪
I hate that a draw is a possibility in this game. You have fighters who perform 1-3 times a year and it’s possible that an outcome can be basically pointless? It’s a dumb scoring system
nah, if you take away score cards and just look at fight a draw isn't a robbery, debatable but not a robbery. You can say grasso takes second and fifth, valentina takes first and third, 4th is a cointoss so draw is ok, no one wants a draw obviously but i can see apart from the 10 - 8 controversy why it happened.
@@RjsWrldwell the guy who watches it in slow motion weasel with the biggest MMA channel of them all had it as a win for Valentina and a robbery and broke down the entire fight in slow motion...I'll take his over a beanie wearing slob.
@@clinch4402schevchenko was also super close to sinking in a rear naked choke after dominating one of the rounds in the beginning and also got the guillotine super deep yet neither of those got scored 🤣
You talking about the 5th? VS was winning the round at first but wasn’t doing anything spectacular. When Grasso got her back on the ground and was pounding, that’s what gave her the W because that was more significant than the few more punches VS was landing. But yes, the 10-8 was ridiculous
You know what weird why is the interviewer like acting weird with the Question of a Mexican independence not losing there champion, Boxing does it ALL THE TIME, she got robbed man and it was BAD this has to be one of the Cleanest fights but Cleanest Robberies
@@gior5526 she literally broke her thumb in the first round Have u ever broken Ur thumb are tried to Throw a Punch it not a great feel at all, And yes a Robbery because 10-8 should of been 10-9 leaving Valentina the champion do the math
@@spookyreaper1702yeah she tried the Aljo trick but didn't work, she wasn't grounded so the knees were legal. Grasso won 2,4,5, if anything she's the one who got robbed
@@jacquesdegauthier if your hand is on the floor any leg/knee kick to the head is illegal. A 10-8 round is illegal as well it means Valentina didn’t land a single strike the entire round yet she was dominating the 5th for 3 and a half out of the 5minutes. Go cry about it somewhere else since you don’t know what a robbery is
Val won rounds 1 and 3. Grasso won rounds 2 and 5. It really comes down to who you think won round 4. I could totally see round 4 going either way. And there was no 10-8 rounds lol
Valentina won round 5. Grasso stoof their for 3.5 min getting punched then did nothing on the ground. Yes she got her back, but doesnt justify her eating punches on her feet for most of the round.
I’m not saying Val won every round but the ones she won were clear the 2/3 Grasso has an argument for could be argued either way. 10-8 in the 5th is clearly wrong. 3-2 to Shevchenko for me at the worst.
Valentina won 3-2 (it was close grasso did great) Regarding the knees i thought they were illegal too, but thats just a lack of rule consistently between states and nations... (Thats on valentina to know the rules update for Vegas). Either way the judge is on the take and Valentina did win.
@@voiceofreason1829 it's on Valentina to know the exact rules she's working with... I understand why she didn't think they we're legal but that's on her for not knowing the exact rule for Vegas
@@MrZyphR I'm not sure that you actually read my op correctly. I'll say it again... That's on Valentina for not knowing the Vegas rules.. Ie. Valentina was wrong 🤔
my analysis was this. Going into the fifth, I was stuck between two possibilities both very viable: I had an inkling it was 3 to 1 Shevchenko going into the fifth. I had her narrowly winning all rounds besides round two, which was Grasso clear. However, the rounds were so razor close besides round three and one that I could have also seen it being two and two, Grasso stealing the fifth round but definitely not a 10-8. so I basically think that either person could’ve been the winner of the fight, but no way was it a draw. if it was two and two, Grasso should’ve won the fight, because I think she won round five. take down, submission attempts, ground and pound and ground control time. only argument I can maybe see is that it took her three minutes to secure that position, but the sequence had more involved than Shevchenko did on the feet in that round. but if it was 3-1 going into the fifth, Grasso would’ve needed a finish to win. Therefore, Valentina won the fight. I would’ve been satisfied with either of these options as both make sense, but a draw is a ball buster 💀
You right the best they can give is draw then a lost in record then knowing if you lost but she’s right The mex Independence Day did for sure affected this fight the best the judge can stay alive from backlash is yeah give it a draw is still good money for both!
Heres the thing, i disagree with with 10-8 but if the point woudlve been taken or given to grasso(another 10-9) in another round i feel like the draw would’ve been more accepted cuz that was really even for me
I had it a draw round 2 was a 10 -8. Valentina got dropped then got knee clean like 5 times then got beat on the floor. Grasso was taken down but got up almost every time and didn’t take to much damage on the floor
Blame Mexican Independence Day and not the fact that you let Alexa take your back and nearly finish you in the fifth as the reason you lost. No accountability.
Her lol. Multiple completely legal knees to the head. She got dropped, multiple submission scares and in the final round she was close to being submitted.@@daniellebrooks7510
I am bilingual but I couldn’t be her translator. The way she looked at the translator when he was translating was like “ you better not mince your words chump”. I’d be scared shitless even in her wounded post fight state.
She's literally right they brought in that Mexican colored UFC belt and didn't wanna put in on Shevchenko so they called it a draw and put it on Grasso, sus as hell
😅 Valentino, one a blind man can see but I guess all of Mexico was in the crowd and they were the judge today. I don’t know why they did the draw because they didn’t want tension, but this is not real combat sport shit this is favoritism bullshit just because it’s their independence day that has nothing to do with it. Absolute bullshit.
If any round was a 10-8 it should have been the third round when Valentina dominated every second of that round and nearly choked Grasso unconscious! Mike Bell needs to be fired immediately!
Ladies and gentled, after 5 rounds, the winner ISSS...The undefeated, undisputed, womens champion of the world, "aand STILL" ..... MIKE "VIVA MEXICO" ...BELLL .
the scoring system really should change though. 9-9 or 10-10 for rounds so close you can't tell 10-9 for rounds where one person won a round, but it wasn't dominant 10-8 for rounds where theres someone who very very clearly won the round 10-7 for if you were so dominant the fight should have been stopped.... something like that.
We all know my girl Valentina won this fight. Credit to Grasso for bringing the fight tho. I’ve seen Valentina absolutely dominate her opponents for so many years that it’s amazing she could hold her own so well. But Valentina should be wearing that strap right now. 💯🖤🖤
Alexa won but it was close fight. I definitely had Alexa winning the round she drop Valentina and the round where she hit her with multiple knees and finished it in a heel hook position. Valentina was dominating the fifth but she decided to grapple which ended up grasso taking her back. That lost her the fifth. Valentina was getting takedowns but didn’t do anything with them.
Unpopular opinion, but I think if a championship fight is a draw, then the title should become vacant. Why should the champ retain the belt if they don't actually defend it?
I like that idea
Make two interim belts & if someone beats either of them before the reunification, they can claim it for themselves 💁♂️
I don't think that's unpopular that sounds ideal
Because the challenger didn’t do enough to take the belt from the champ, thats how i see it
Because the champion didn't do enough to keep it that's how I see it.
She was fighting such a flawless 5th round until that back take. She fought phenomenally. As did Alexa. Hats off to both.
UFC / WWE
Val hasn’t taken accountability for that mistake at the end of rd 5. It cost her the victory.
Not back take. Back give. Back gift. Shev gifted Mexico by giving her back for independence day 🎉
So she couldnt have won the round, its how you finish not start
@@Foralluhaterzthis ain’t pride wtf are you talking about. Damage is the most important factor for scoring
100% give her the rematch fought injured. Got shafted a 10_8 in the 5th shes Def Definitely up there as woman's goat 🐐
10-8 is simply ridiculous given the round and the outcome of what would happen with that score 🤦
Don’t forget round 4. Keep it real don’t get distracted. She almost got finished 4th and 5th
@@chrisbreezy2676 Do you know how round scoring works, round 5 wasn't a domination meaning no 10-8
Regardless of the 10-8 the same judge didn’t give grasso round 4 but gave her a 10-8 in round 5. If he scored it right would have been the same outcome
@@BDP21round 4 wasn’t a 10-8 kiddo, you have to completely dominate for a 10-8, Grasso didn’t.
@@2gully3he’s saying Grasso clearly won round 4, but the judge who gave Grasso a 10-8 in Rd 5 gave rd 4 to Valentina. If he had given round 4 to Grasso she would have won, even if he gave 10-9 for both round 4 and 5, and everyone agrees Grasso won round 4.
As a Mexican, I agree with Valentina here. A 10-8 was a gift
But so was the round to Shev when she got kneed 5 times over
@@turbo0589legal
As half Mexican and some who had $20 on Grasso. “Valentina clearly won this fight 48-47”. It was a great fight tho.
Round 4 was gift to Valentina. At the end of the day still a draw. Was it not a close fight? Was the champ not in control at the end of the fight? Cmon dorks
@@johnb.5217 say it loudly for the people in the back
Shes so pure and honest, absolutely Real Champion Mentality
Real champion mentality calling the judges out? Lmao.
That's the thing, some people are saying she's a sore loser, she's not she's just very honest with her perspective.
I thought she won.
@@marianvajda785was she wrong? No!
How could anyone think that judge is not on the take.
@@ronburgandy1475you obviously didn’t understand his comment lol
@@ronburgandy1475100% a sore loser. You clearly didn't see the way she reacted in the first fight when she lost her belt. 12 year old shit.
I forgot she spoke a few languages. Talented women, please give her the trilogy. She isn't getting any younger
She’s absolutely right.
What was weird in the 5th was this: Val Dominated the striking, then gifted Alexa the takedown by goofing up what was going to be a fight-sealing takedown on Valentina’s part. My first thought was she slipped through Shevchenko’s grasp because of her blood. Second look indicated Val kinda blew it.
Still, no way that was a 10-8 round.
Yep, Val definitely slipped as you rundown again. But then again, if round 3 was 9-10 where the Val nearly submitted Alexa, same judge scoring 10-8 for round 5 is absolutely insane.
That judge better hope I don’t run into him in the streets….. no reason I say that…. 🐸🍵
@@hitmanabhi007 absolutely true.
I think Val’s only weakness is not being excellent in completing her wrestling advantages. But if she worked on that too much, she’d lose her forte-striking. Grasso’s advantage is she is good at Everything.
Funny thing is, Valentina didn’t even have to try that takedown. She was picking her apart on the feet. Great fight, but losing it because of a 10-8 round….
They need to have a trilogy.
All she did was jabs. I don’t call that dominating. She was closed to being finished in the 5th, so yeah she lost that round
@@isaacarizmendi2627your a dope
VALENTINA WAS OWNING HER IN THE 5th!!!! Snapping her head back!!! Grasso didn’t land one punch for like 4 min before falling on Valentina’s back and getting some ok grazing shots!! 10-8 stop!!!! Grasso face looked like a punching bag in the 5th!!!!!
You sound salty 🧂
damage over jabs...she almost got finished
What about the SMESH? Ref should’ve stopped it she was defenseless. Be REAL
Not at all, Grasso was setting trap and Valentina fall into it again...
That 10-8 is as bad as Chris Tognioni’s mistake and it should be overturned also. Too bad there isn’t a mechanism to correct this incompetence.
Valentina will always be champion in my eyes. Anazing woman!! Proper martial artist of the highest standard.
Yeah, 100% the real MMA artist.
Got her ass dropped and choked out by grasso
Lost 2,4 and 5. Lost 5 due to terrible fight iq, if she had just kept with the jab and circle she wins. But nope, she went to the grappling, specifically the head and arm throw… twice now she’s tried to grapple Alexa, twice she’s been shown who the boss is. Literally just jab and circle and the belt is hers
@@toziassmittShe is a fighter and went forward to finish the fight unlike that GynoSaniya who runs like a coward chicken all over the octagon to win 😂
@@jericho-tubeVal lost get over it
We all can agree that 10-8 for round 5 is bs
The draw too. 2,4,5 for grasso. Sad but draw is the next fair thing
No, 4 was Valentina. Two out of the three judges scored 4 for Valentina.
The fight was decided by that bullshit rd 5 10-8. She was robbed.
Mike Bell the same judge that had it as a split draw for magomed ankalaev absolute criminal
@@chrisbreezy26764 was not grasso stop it
@@hector7129"her territory"... the fight was in Vegas.
Reporter: Valentina, what do you attribute your loss to?
VS: It's all Mexican Independence Day's fault.
🤯🤣
No accountability. If she hadn't had her back taken and been nearly finished, then she would have won the fight. This loss is her fault not Mexican Independence Day 😂
She is not dumb she can't say the judges work for vegas but we know that to be the real reason she got the draw
@@daniellebrooks7510 I will admit, she was winning the round, but then when she got her back taken and had to be saved by the bell . . . that was Mexican Independence Day's fault?
Sucks so much the decision takes up so much of the spotlight cause that was one of the greatest woman's MMA fights of all time
This comment exactly man
fight of the year
Fight of the year 🤣@@josehernando4904
Wasn't really that great of a fight just a very competitive one.
@@micahwest2793 yea, Weili v/s Joanna was far more exciting.
My heart goes out to Valentina ❤
Valentina was 3-1 up goin into the 5th then they try claim it’s a 10-8 🤷🏽♂️ what a joke I believe Valentina here they changed that to 10-8 after the fight ended after checking scorecards
Your saying Alexa didn’t win round 2 and 4 ?
3 2
They changed the scorecards after Valentina got her back taken and nearly finished.
@@paco5star So are you Mexican or not? You deleted your last comment saying you ain't 😂
@@LeedsBoi94 I'm not mexican but grasso clearly won round 2 and 3
I was okay with the draw I like both fighters but now finding out it was Cz of a 10-8 in the 5th now that’s crazy asf.
Yes, there should have been a winner one way or another. Either fudge the cards even more, or score it correctly and Give it to Valentina..... but, lets be real, a mexican fighter, on mexican day.... the cards were getting fudged, and Mike Bell came out the winner.
@@Matt-jl8xfthat was in Vegas bro
Sinaloa cartel decision. You can’t blame Mike Bell with a target on him.
@@COPSCheckingOurPublicServants Yes sir... I corrected that. The context of what I am getting at remains the same. The judges will fudge the score to give the crowd/ UFC what they think is wanted. All sports that go to judges are disastrous.
@@Matt-jl8xf I agree
Valentina won the fight, took it too her every round, the aggressor, shes a phenomenal champion, way shes spoken afterwards is also exceptional, what a warrior she is.
You mean sore loser ?
Not really at all what happened
3 2 grasso
Every round..? You sound bias af lolol
She walked backwards most of the fight. Grasso was the one taking it to her. She is a sore loser. Tie is a good call
Remember you're fight against Santos, everyone knew you lost that fight but the judges gave it to you, so you really can't complain.
Talia just lost to Erin who beats Grasso 😂
Santos eye was broke can't put belt on winner with half an eye my guy
@@mikeyrandom13same blanchfeild who loss to eye lash queen Tracy cortez?🤦😂💯💀
@@aa-jx5zz at 19 yrs old before UFC 🤓🤡
@@aa-jx5zz where is Tracy ranked at 125 nowhere top 5.
3:30 I like Valentina, but she may want to read up on the rulebook. Not only did she say she was affected by the knees when really only one landed ok and it wasn't that hard still. She definitely WASN'T a grounded opponent. Fingers or even one full hand touching the mat doesn't constitute a grounded opponent.
Hats off to both women. I wish them both a great recovery.
Hats of to Valentina ....10-8 is ridiculous
@@wrdswpns1139 she didn’t win sorry
The bookies didn't wanna pay out all the people that got in on Shevchenko at + money live 100% this is one of those fights that further solidifies the link between the athletic and gambling commissions, no way they didn't communicate how much was at stake to lose if that one judge didn't flub the scorecards by putting a 10-8 for Grasso in R5 and make it a draw (which essentially voids all bets and refunds everyone their money INSTEAD OF PAYING THEM ON THEIR WIN)
I would have doubled up on valentina decision and tripled on grasso Dec
@@daniellebrooks7510 EXACTLY, but you know what's cheaper than paying you out your earned winnings for being a super sharp gambler that managed to play both sides at plus money to guarantee profit? Calling it a draw and pretending this sport isn't rigged so they can just refund you your money and hope you lose it next week on a different bullshit dec 😂
if you look at the belt design, it will tell you the winner before the fight.
Indeed Mexican Independence day was the reason for the Draw
Nope, it should’ve gave grasso the win. Grasso got robbed. 2,4,5 for grasso. THATS the REAL ROBBERY
😂😂😂
f tht they knew tht n they aint wanna just give her the win or pick grasso winner it would look even worse either way they cheated val clearly won
I’m Hispanic and I love when we have Mexican champions but I love Valentina … she always gives her best and she won … I know people with true ufc viewing experience and combat sports knowledge understand this was Valentinas fight… she’ll beat grasos in the 3rd fight easy … when you take it from some one like this… seeing her emotions … she’s gonna beat her for sure in the third … but make it on neutral grounds Las Vegas period!!! Valentina you won in the eyes of most of the ufc fans 💙👊🏻💪🏻👑🙏🏻
Bell should be under investigation for fixing the fight, it couldn't be more obvious it was deliberate
win or lose fan of shevshenko for life straight up
was a blessing watching her kick ass throughout her badass career🥊💯
Yes she’s the goat!!
I love her answer about cutting weight as you get older. DISCIPLINE!!!!
Def true. Ive done 10+ weight cuts, and its getting Harder only because im getting lazier lol
Valentina Shevchenko won!
Bro a Russian speaking mexican english and 3 other languages wow.. Valentina Amazing!
Mexican is not a language
@@JARM16898splitting hairs
Most europeans do dumb americans know 1 language
There are dialect and grammatical differences between Mexican Spanish and traditional Spanish. What a stupid thing to call someone out on, get a life Jarm.
if they classified the 5th round a 10-8.. then valentina should have been given a 10-8 in a couple rounds 🤣 absolutely fucking insane. fire that judge.
For real..
What fight did you watch? Alexa bullied her
@@matthew.d.neffii how she bully her when her eye was busted open and she kept getting put on her back ???
@@matthew.d.neffiivalentina broke her fave what you on?
@@seriustraco she got exposed her last 3 fights 😂
Great fight valentina👏🏼👏🏼
As a Mexican, I do agree with Shevshenko. The judging shouldn't be affected due to racial circumstances.
Not racial or padilla would have won
Another troll pretending to be Mexican 😂
When Bruce said at the end 47-47 I was counting in my head how the fck that happened ? And then they showed up score cards and I saw 10-8 in fifth round and I was like MIKE BELL - you're fcking blind or something ?!
Not a fan of either fighter but was a great fight but damn how tf was that a 10-8 😂
How are you not a fan of either ?!?!
Regardless who wins at the end. She can speak Russian, English, Español, and Thai. Plz name one of UFC fighters who can speak 4 languages
Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 not Russian
Sean Strickland can speak white trash
@@user-jj4vj4ll2u that’s even better then but she speaks Russian fluently as well if you go check her previous interviews in Russian
And what does that have to do with fighting?
Who cares lol
That's why if you are the challenger you must end the fight because if you leave it to the judges anything can happen
Bullshit. Stop letting the extremely highly paid judges off the hook.
I’m going to leave this here for the people crying about the judge’s decision. These are pulled from the Unified Rules of MMA: “A score of 10 - 8 does not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for 5 minutes of a round.” Furthermore, “Judges must CONSIDER giving the score of 10 - 8 when a fighter shows dominance in the round even though no impactful scoring against the opponent was achieved.” Lastly, “Dominance in the grappling phase can be seen by fighters taking DOMINANT POSITIONS in the fight and utilizing those positions to attempt fight ending submissions or attacks.”
Mike Bell was well within his right to score the last round a 10-8.
I kinda wanna ask Dana, Hunter, Sean, Mick, and all the guys up there if they can give Valentina her PPV % Points for the next Fight... Cuz I feel like she really decisively Won that and deserves it.
Ask them
she has multiple fights were the opponent was robbed shall i name them?
definitely didn’t decisively win that. I gave Grasso 2,4,5 no 10-8s though
Do it James, I’m sure that you’ll influence their decision
Bwahahaha… yea good luck w that one
There was definitely something off about the event based off a couple of these fights.
I think the way to fix the judging is have judges do press conferences like fighters. Not all the time but I just want to hear them think. Maybe have some sort of voting method where if everyone is in agreement that a judge fucked up, they get fined 10k.
Imo, thatll never happen...judges are definitely paid off. Giving Grasso 10-8 in the 5th for a split draw so Alexa remains champ is all the proof I need
Oh boi i love this lady, what an amazing human
Valentina was really putting it on her in the fifth round. Grasso was tired, but it looked like she finally got the timing of Grasso and how to use her jab to take away Grasso offense. this rematch never should have happened yet, but if they fight in the future it still looks like Valentina would win if she can go first like that. i hope there isn't a re-match, however
Her mindset is so sharp. She doesn’t need the UFC, the UFC needs her. The promo and hype put into this for Grasso was ridiculous. Shevchenko has never received that kind of praise coming out the gate. Definitely one-sided on the UFC’s part.
Wow the fact that she can speak Spanish is fukin awesome
She's smarter than most Americans that can't even speak their own language "English" she can speak three!! 😍 💪
I hate that a draw is a possibility in this game. You have fighters who perform 1-3 times a year and it’s possible that an outcome can be basically pointless? It’s a dumb scoring system
What are you even talking about? A draw is better than getting a loss despite looking as good as the other fighter, tf.
Trilogy fight has to be next. Both fighters would want to make a statement. Would be fun!
Its as simple as this, never leave it too the judges. Its all subjective/objective
She did Fight'z's Za' battle!!!! I love her, personally'zzz she'zz best! 💯
Excuses excuses, I had 3-2 Grasso. Also knees were reviewed and deemed legal which was said by the commentators right after they happened
Mike “i think im half mexican want to chacha to the bank” Bell
I understand Mike Bell. I also have downsyndrome so it is very hard for me to do numbers and stuff
Round 5 wasn't 10-8, but round 2 was. They should revoke Mike Bells license to judge fights.
Yeah tbh Valentina won clearly
round 2 was also not 10-8. a 10-8 is like when u get mauled.
How was round 2 a 10-8?? Lol she landed a good punch on valentina and dropped her, but Valentina got up and took her down that same round.
@@Cualchris And she did absolutely nothing with that take down, Alexa actually landed harder shots on her back.
@@RAWFestivalisnt that the round she got mauled though
Valentina is a champion warrior. Hall of Fame spot secured. No contest in greatest fighter of all time conversation.
Yea I can honestly say I like both fighters and schevchenko got cheated 💯
Your absolutely right finally someone that knows fighting
nah, if you take away score cards and just look at fight a draw isn't a robbery, debatable but not a robbery. You can say grasso takes second and fifth, valentina takes first and third, 4th is a cointoss so draw is ok, no one wants a draw obviously but i can see apart from the 10 - 8 controversy why it happened.
@@1710Austinagreed but 10-8 is ridiculous a 10-8 is completely domination the whole round. Judge was on one for that
Base on this judging, Volk should have won against Islam. Absolutely ridiculous!
@@johnb.5217 and Peter yan should had won Suga show
As half Mexican and someone who had $20 on Grasso. “Valentina clearly won this fight 48-47”. It was a great fight tho.
Mmaguru and myself had it 48-47 grasso as did one of the judges
I had it 48-47 on Grasso and had money on Val so clearly is definitely the wrong word.
Most people had it 2-2 and grasso clearly got the 5th. Clear 48-47 for Grasso
@@RjsWrldwell the guy who watches it in slow motion weasel with the biggest MMA channel of them all had it as a win for Valentina and a robbery and broke down the entire fight in slow motion...I'll take his over a beanie wearing slob.
All I see is a troll pretending to be Mexican
10-8 in the round 5 is unbelievably weird. I think Valentina won.
Don’t leave the fight in the hands of the judges. 😢😢😢😢
Don’t leave the fight in the hands of the judges
she didn't they jerked her
Valentina was in control for 3:30-4 minutes of the round. how they gave it to Grasso is wild. Fact itwas 10-8 is even more ridiculous
Closer to a finish makes it 10 - 9 grasso
@@clinch4402schevchenko was also super close to sinking in a rear naked choke after dominating one of the rounds in the beginning and also got the guillotine super deep yet neither of those got scored 🤣
Exactly and she was never really in danger
@@clinch4402so then Val should be champ because the judged 10-8
You talking about the 5th? VS was winning the round at first but wasn’t doing anything spectacular. When Grasso got her back on the ground and was pounding, that’s what gave her the W because that was more significant than the few more punches VS was landing. But yes, the 10-8 was ridiculous
She was sharp with her jabs but it's a hard call
You know what weird why is the interviewer like acting weird with the Question of a Mexican independence not losing there champion, Boxing does it ALL THE TIME, she got robbed man and it was BAD this has to be one of the Cleanest fights but Cleanest Robberies
Robbed? 😂 she’s making an excuse about her thumb to justify her performance 😂
@@gior5526 she literally broke her thumb in the first round Have u ever broken Ur thumb are tried to Throw a Punch it not a great feel at all, And yes a Robbery because 10-8 should of been 10-9 leaving Valentina the champion do the math
The judges needs to be made to answer for how they score cards in press conferences or something. This will help stop such nonsense scoring
I dont usually use the term robbery but this was one. 10 8 for round 5 is absolutely ridiculous
Corruption is seeping into the UFC
@@nathandustUFC /WWE
And she got knee’d to the head when she was downed. Grasso should have had a point taken. Yet Valentina gets robbed
@@spookyreaper1702yeah she tried the Aljo trick but didn't work, she wasn't grounded so the knees were legal. Grasso won 2,4,5, if anything she's the one who got robbed
@@jacquesdegauthier if your hand is on the floor any leg/knee kick to the head is illegal. A 10-8 round is illegal as well it means Valentina didn’t land a single strike the entire round yet she was dominating the 5th for 3 and a half out of the 5minutes. Go cry about it somewhere else since you don’t know what a robbery is
Lmao EA UFC 5 just announced that their will be draws in online mode, so this decision is a dedication to that bs…
A gift is how you get a simple leg trip and hold for the entire round and they give you a 10-9 for that. They should start standing her up more
She does nothing on the ground.
Val won rounds 1 and 3. Grasso won rounds 2 and 5. It really comes down to who you think won round 4. I could totally see round 4 going either way. And there was no 10-8 rounds lol
The correct opinion.
Valentina won round 5. Grasso stoof their for 3.5 min getting punched then did nothing on the ground. Yes she got her back, but doesnt justify her eating punches on her feet for most of the round.
There was no 10-8 in that fight.
I’m not saying Val won every round but the ones she won were clear the 2/3 Grasso has an argument for could be argued either way. 10-8 in the 5th is clearly wrong. 3-2 to Shevchenko for me at the worst.
You won the fight girl be proud of yourself
She was robbed plain and simple. She won 3-2.
Valentina won 3-2 (it was close grasso did great)
Regarding the knees i thought they were illegal too, but thats just a lack of rule consistently between states and nations... (Thats on valentina to know the rules update for Vegas).
Either way the judge is on the take and Valentina did win.
She had no weight on hands. She should have defended instead of trying to put her hand on the ground.
You need to have weight on that hand, not just fingertips
@@voiceofreason1829 it's on Valentina to know the exact rules she's working with... I understand why she didn't think they we're legal but that's on her for not knowing the exact rule for Vegas
@@MrZyphR I'm not sure that you actually read my op correctly.
I'll say it again...
That's on Valentina for not knowing the Vegas rules..
Ie. Valentina was wrong 🤔
@@MrZyphRstill can't be to the back of the head regardless...that's the point
“Ladies & gentleman, the judging has come to a decision. Your winner, for being MEX-I-CANNNNNNnnnNNN
my analysis was this. Going into the fifth, I was stuck between two possibilities both very viable: I had an inkling it was 3 to 1 Shevchenko going into the fifth. I had her narrowly winning all rounds besides round two, which was Grasso clear. However, the rounds were so razor close besides round three and one that I could have also seen it being two and two, Grasso stealing the fifth round but definitely not a 10-8. so I basically think that either person could’ve been the winner of the fight, but no way was it a draw. if it was two and two, Grasso should’ve won the fight, because I think she won round five. take down, submission attempts, ground and pound and ground control time. only argument I can maybe see is that it took her three minutes to secure that position, but the sequence had more involved than Shevchenko did on the feet in that round. but if it was 3-1 going into the fifth, Grasso would’ve needed a finish to win. Therefore, Valentina won the fight. I would’ve been satisfied with either of these options as both make sense, but a draw is a ball buster 💀
Valentina is Legendary in my eyes.
Even blind people watching that 5th round wouldn't give it a 10-8
You right the best they can give is draw then a lost in record then knowing if you lost but she’s right The mex Independence Day did for sure affected this fight the best the judge can stay alive from backlash is yeah give it a draw is still good money for both!
its hard to say you won when you show up to the presser beat up in a cast
Grasso looks worse she looked like bloody Mary leave casual
Heres the thing, i disagree with with 10-8 but if the point woudlve been taken or given to grasso(another 10-9) in another round i feel like the draw would’ve been more accepted cuz that was really even for me
I had it a draw round 2 was a 10 -8. Valentina got dropped then got knee clean like 5 times then got beat on the floor. Grasso was taken down but got up almost every time and didn’t take to much damage on the floor
She got clearly robbed, Alexa had 2 rounds at most and they were competitive, so a draw is a travesty. Prime example of rigged scorecards.
Thank you someone with some sense.
2,4,5 were grasso you need to rewatch it
Blame Mexican Independence Day and not the fact that you let Alexa take your back and nearly finish you in the fifth as the reason you lost. No accountability.
Who looked worse???? Her or bloody Mary grasso
Her lol. Multiple completely legal knees to the head. She got dropped, multiple submission scares and in the final round she was close to being submitted.@@daniellebrooks7510
Who got saved by the bell?
U r the best👊
I am bilingual but I couldn’t be her translator. The way she looked at the translator when he was translating was like “ you better not mince your words chump”. I’d be scared shitless even in her wounded post fight state.
She's literally right they brought in that Mexican colored UFC belt and didn't wanna put in on Shevchenko so they called it a draw and put it on Grasso, sus as hell
Or... crazy concept... Valentina just didn't do enough to win?
@@oxsila considering she was up 3-1 on two judges scorecards before that egregious 10-8 in R5 yeah she literally DID do enough to win 🤡
😅 Valentino, one a blind man can see but I guess all of Mexico was in the crowd and they were the judge today. I don’t know why they did the draw because they didn’t want tension, but this is not real combat sport shit this is favoritism bullshit just because it’s their independence day that has nothing to do with it. Absolute bullshit.
I am pretty sure that in California, *both* hands need to be touching he mat to be deemed a "grounded opponent".
This fight was in Vegas
Damage is everything. On another note, how was that not fight of the night.
If any round was a 10-8 it should have been the third round when Valentina dominated every second of that round and nearly choked Grasso unconscious! Mike Bell needs to be fired immediately!
Ladies and gentled, after 5 rounds, the winner ISSS...The undefeated, undisputed, womens champion of the world, "aand STILL" ..... MIKE "VIVA MEXICO" ...BELLL .
They must put Mike in the cage with brock lesnar he would judge correctly then
If she didn’t let that take down happen she woulda won
she was the better fighter we all seen it they lost her the fight
These judges need to be held responsible and get called out for their misconduct when involved in any.
the scoring system really should change though.
9-9 or 10-10 for rounds so close you can't tell
10-9 for rounds where one person won a round, but it wasn't dominant
10-8 for rounds where theres someone who very very clearly won the round
10-7 for if you were so dominant the fight should have been stopped....
something like that.
We all know my girl Valentina won this fight. Credit to Grasso for bringing the fight tho. I’ve seen Valentina absolutely dominate her opponents for so many years that it’s amazing she could hold her own so well. But Valentina should be wearing that strap right now. 💯🖤🖤
I feel bad for her...Just bcoz of 1min lucky control time.. after she pieced her up for the whole 4min..look at grasso face
Now it’s “lucky” 😂😂😂
The last time it was an “accident” 😂
Last time was nvr lucky stupid watch properly
U know what least my wives can say they both won. I slept early I was so stoned and I wake up to draw I was like shit what did I miss 🤣
Where aljo at ?
I didn’t know she can talk in Spanish okay!!!!
She's half Peruvian
She's half Peruvian
Rd 5 wasn't 10-8 but Rd 4 should've been given to Grasso.
Alexa won but it was close fight. I definitely had Alexa winning the round she drop Valentina and the round where she hit her with multiple knees and finished it in a heel hook position. Valentina was dominating the fifth but she decided to grapple which ended up grasso taking her back. That lost her the fifth. Valentina was getting takedowns but didn’t do anything with them.
Illegal knees?
Hate draws in a main event championship fight this happen in ankaliev jan fight too hmmm
The ufc sees a new superstar. Buller is old news now. Thats why you got a ten 8