the 200-500 is still my ride or die so i needed a lens like this to finally convince me to push to mirrorless. Nikon is killing it with these two lenses. Take my money.
This is definitely on my radar. With internal focus and 70% turn on the wirst to get from 180 to 600 is the selling point for me. I get this and with the 70-200 which I already have, then I got my wildlife area covered. What I like to to test how it behaves if I were to attach a 2xtc? Looking at sample images from those who had this, tells me that this 180-600 is sharp. In broad daylight, you're shooting f8 or f11 mostly anyway...
A very interesting and must have comparison. But one thing to take into consideration is that the Sony lens is already 3 years old. I new version is coming soon ? Lighter, smaller and faster autofocus with the XD Linear motors ?
Shoot. I have the 70-200 2.8S, simply a great lens. But that size comparison to the 70-180 2.8 is pretty darn impressive. My wife bought me the 24-120 f/4 and now I barely use my 24-70 2.8. That 70-180 is probably going in the bag when it comes out, especially for travel. I’ve watched several of the reviews of this lens, fellows, and, as usual you guys nailed it. Simply the best review, thorough, succinct and amusing. I’ll be watching for the end of the world in 2140.
Im really enjoying these videos guys, im not even a nikon shooter but its always interesting to see your view on it. been following for some time, in the changes from channel to channel and I have to say, really trust your input on lenses and cameras! I'd love to see more fujifilm stuff, even if its third party alternatives for the system, which have been growing lately. keep it up team!
You're getting back into your flow with this video, after you moved house and obviously had some adjustment time. Great! This is the Jordan and Chris review we love to watch, even if we shoot another brand.
The 180-600 is indeed a very good lens, and despite what some reviews will tell you, it works very well with the 2 x TC. My 200-500 is now back in it's box and consigned to the loft with my other F mount lenses.
I agree, except that Canon has lots more budget friendly cameras (R7, R8, Etc.) with great AF. Nikon is behind when comes to friendly budget camera with great AF.
Sad to see DP Review fade away but I gotta tell ya, this YT version is a lot better in so many ways, for starters, it's great to have the personal aspect and human interface. Great job keeping an informative tradition alive all the while making it better (in my humble opinion anyway... :).
A z50 with ibis and full sensor readout at 60p would be nice 24mp is nice but the 12mp a7s3 showed that sometimes high iso capability is needed And add a focus joystick too
The focal range of the 70-180 would be nice to see and many 70-200 are not 200mm at close focus, headshot distance. Good job that Nikon have got you product to review
@@pawelmod3292 Do you meen 70-200 2.8's? i'm not aware of any other 70-180 2.8s? if so I agree, thats why am wondering how this focuses at the long end , for say head and shoulder shots.
Wikipedia about medium format camera brand "Bronica": "In 1959, Nippon Kogaku sold Nikkor lenses to Shinkodo (Bronica Corporation, current Tamron Corporation) which made for Zenza Bronica medium-format SLR cameras." So the history of Nikon as design supplier to Zenza Bronica, now called Tamron, is age old.
When you look at the the retail of the Tamron 70-180, the Nikon version is only $50 more full retail. Lets say it is Tamron built, there is a benefit of making sure firmware is designed properly to the Nikon system over it being 3rd party. I wonder if there is any difference with lens coating. Even if the profit margin for Nikon is lower, it will be low R&D cost for Nikon also but a nice low entry cost into the system for the consumer and possibly a loyal customer. Not a bad deal for everyone.
The 180-600 is a great lens. I bought the 180-600mm rather than the 600mm and the money I saved paid for half of the Z 800mm. Then I upgraded the 180-600 to the amazing 100-400mm S lens. With these 2 lenses that can both be put into a carry-on bag, covers the entire range of 100mm-1,600mm. (with TCs). The 100-400 has very close focusing and fits into the case for the 70-200 lens.
That damselfly looks like a Coenagrion puella to me. Nice to see you have same species as in Europe. The dragonfly is a Libellula quadrimaculata (to the four spots on each of it’s wings) for sure.
"This episode was shot on the Nikon Z8" - it would be great Jordan, if you make an episode comparing the S5 IIx and Z8 in terms of video shooting. Both cameras are great, but they are so different that it's difficult to figure out which one suits better. You have experience with both of them, give us your judgment!
This Nikon 70-180mm with Nikon coatings might perform a bit better than Tamron one, presented chart looks great + it accepts TC! (and have 140-360mm f/5.6). I would take it for weddings over 70-200/2.8 S any time - the size!!!
Hate it when the VR switch isn't on the lens but I'd imagine you'd have VR on most of the time anyway with a lens like this. And wow, it's nice to see a reasonable price on a lens these days.
I have a switch on the lens, S 150-600 S, and I never remember what the options 1 and 2 represent on the lens. I'd prefer choosing on the menu and actually understand what I choose.
The Nikon Z 1800-600 is and outstanding lens, I honestly don't think it can get any better for the price. I have the 1.4 Nikon Z teleconverter and that paired with this lens is just magical. I don't see how anyone would spend the price of a car for the Nikon Z 400 2.8.
Hey, Nikon Rep, 2023 ought to be the year that consumers are told when a major manufacturer rebadges a third-party lens. If Nikon makes minor changes to a Tamron design, that is a selling point to us consumers that Nikon is willing and ready to partner with industry leaders to produce lenses for the needs of all of their customers. Also, if Nikon has improved the design, that sounds like something consumers would love to hear you brag about instead of leaving us all to assume that you just took an existing Tamron design, had them make it for you, and then slapped your name on it to charge more for it and bring it into your lens catalog.
Well, glass presumably made by Tamron but everything else by Nikon, including extra coatings on the lenses, focusing motors and weathersealing. There's a price to pay with all of the advantages.
@@WillymazeAnd you know this how? Everything points to the lens being exactly identical to the Tamron, except for the plastic casing. That's the only way for this thing to make sense from an economical standpoint. Sidenote: I'd be happy if the focus motors especially are Tamron's, because their VXD linear motors are better than anything Nikon makes. Case and point, the 180-600 has a stepping motor. In 2023. On a wildlife lens...
@@youknowwho9247 You should look at any of the S line lens motors. The 180-600 is a budget consumer wildlife lens. They save their best parts including coatings and focus motors for the professional designs like the 100-400.
@@youknowwho9247 We can all speculate but don't you think by having exactly the same lens it would be a straight Tamron? I love Tamron and I still own the F-mount trinity and the 35mm 1.4, but Nikon has the edge in weathersealing and lens construction. Also, it accepts Nikon teleconverter, something that the Sony versions won't do. Matt Irwin shows that it has virtually no chromatic aberration nor flares and the E-mount does at a certain degree.
Nikon needs to stop treating the truth like a dirty little secret. They made a partnering decision and they should be proud that decision. The 70-180 looks like a good lens; let it be what it is.
No V.R. switch on the lens *is* annoying. Even the 200-500 had a V.R. switch on the lens. Still, it looks like a very good and affordable lens for wildlife. I believe it was Nikon Rumors that thought the 70-180 is a re-badged Tamron, which is fine as they are making some very good lenses and if the mount is licensed by Nikon they should work very well.
I hope the full review will contain a proper comparison with the 200-500! I use that one right now and I'm happy with it but the 180-600 could be a fun upgrade in the future :)
Me too! I’m a happy long-time user of the 200-500 as well. I have shot tons hand-held with it and the only hope I have is that this new one can do better in the area of af-speed, zoom-throw and a shorter close range distance. Of course, with a lens of this kind the bokeh quality (subjective) is important too. By they way, internal focusing is a bonus since I’m often out and about in very adverse conditions. But, touch wood, no moisture have ever entered my trusted 200-500 despite the external focus mechanism. So maybe nothing to worry about?
@@freetibet1000 The 200-500 seems solid enough as long as you don't travel to super dusty areas or use it in the rain. And it's true, the throw on the zoom ring is pretty ridiculous. But it looks like they have improved pretty much all of that. And didn't the 200-500 launch at a similar price, too?
@@MattisProbably Yes, I think it launched around the same price point as this new one. Since I’m still in the DSLR camp with a D850 & D810 I will have to wait a while longer anyway. But I’m very impressed with what Nikon have produced for the Z line users. And this affordable zoom is bound to become a big hit for them. Thanks for a inspiring conversation.
Sir, love the review. And reviews like this really make me want this lens even more. I just wanted to suggest at @4:00 it is wrong to say this lens has “macro capabilities”…. It just has “close up ability”. 1:4 is FAR from “macro”. Macro is 1:1 or better. Example of better, 2:1, 3:1, 4:1, and etc…. Then you get off in to “micro” (super macro and better). Consider explaining this lens has a very very nice minimum focal distance for something at 600mm allowing you to get decently close. But again, not at all Macro. Sorry to be triggered. Love your work!
I'll be really curious to see AF speed of this lens versus the 100-400 as that's something super important to me when birding and photographing fighter jets...
I noticed with my externally zooming Tamron 150-500mm, that birds quite often fly away when I zoom out quickly. I mean, you're still rotating your hand, but I think the overall shape of the lens not changing is also going to be an advantage in some situations.
I find it amusing that Ricci pretty much gives us every information we need on the lens, and people can do whatever they want with this lens in the local Nikon stores, yet most of the UA-camrs only have a few hours with it.
Ricci video shows that this lens has same image quality as 100-400, and I tried the AF speed back to back against 100-400 in the local Nikon store, they are indistinguishable. This lens is a no-brainer for me.
Nice, I will grab a copy of the 180-600mm. Looks like an all around great zoom range for wildlife photography. Too bad that Nikon announces great lenses and still don't have it in stock. The 800mm, the 600mm and the 400mm F2.8 Z lenses... Hey! Thanks for pronouncing "bouquet" in the correct way! International photographers rejoice! : )
Excellent intro to this awesome 180-600 lens, Chris! 2 questions please...At f/8, can you really see a major difference in sharpness between it and the Nikkor Z 100-400 S? And, who sells an Arca-Swiss compatible foot plate? (I still can't understand why Nikon's telephoto collars/feet are not Arca-Swiss compatible?! Doesn't every serious photographer use Arca-Swiss compatible gear, i.e., ball heads, pan-tilt, gimbal, etc.?) Thank you sir.
Which camera would you recommend between the Nikon D850 and the Nikon Z7 MK2? You have a lot of experience in photography and have use a lot of different cameras.
Great video thank you. I am just transitioning (back) to Nikon due almost entirely to the Z8. I have the 24-120mm lens to begin with and was planning on going with the 100-400 as my telephoto zoom. (I am just someone who enjoys photography as a hobby, I am not a pro.) At one time, I was shooting a Sony A7iii with the 200-600, but I found that it was too big of a lens to carry around "just in case" I might need a long lens and I switched to the A7Riii & the Sony 100-400GM thinking that if I need to get in closer, I could crop and still end up with an image with a similar resolution to what I would get with my A7iii & the 200-600 but with a lot less weight and bulk. My question is this, how would you compare this lens to the Nikon 100-400? Would the extra reach be offset by the additional weight? IMHO, (and everyone will be different), having the extra reach is of little value if I tend to leave the lens in the car because I don't want to carry it with me "in case" I see something. Thanks.
Thanks, you guys. Dang, I think I want too many Nikon things. Starting with that Z8, then this lens and several other lenses. But I still have the D850, D750, and a bunch of their lenses…😬
That 180 to 600 would be cool to compare with the sigma 150 to 600 I think i should've specified a bit, the sigma 150 to 600 sport is a similar zoom range and might be a bit of competition since it's in a similar price range but a bit more expensive. The sigma 150 to 600 contemporary is much cheaper for pretty much the same lens, just less rugged design than the sport but making it even more competition for the nikon lens. Anyways if you don't like my question you can suck my ass
I've got the feeling that one will need the Pope's recommendation in order to get hold of one of these once they hit the market with it!! Average waiting time 5 years! I think Nikon has a big hit in the pipeline with this lens! I'll put my name down yesterday!
how can it be the best wildlife lens? It's large, heavy, slow and not even very long. I have no doubt that the lens performs great, but it' a compromise on all fronts. As a budget lens for someone who really needs zoom? Absolutely great. But best wildlife lens? C'mon. The Tamron 70-180, that's a different story. I can't wait for that one
Thank you PetaPixel for giving Chris and Jordan a platform. They are the most infotaining couple on the photography beat.
Never watched petapixel but i do now since Chris and Jordan is there.
More like an old, married couple!
Nikon is killing it lately! I’m just waiting for that 35 f/1.2
Tamron doesn't have 35/1.2 😅
@@USGrant21st Nikon uses Tamron lenses as cheaper non-S lenses .. and the 35 1.2 will be a top of the line lens
@@numbnuts2133 lol, that's quite a statement from an ignorant person 😅
@@USGrant21st they didn't have a 600 f/4 with a built in TC so nikon made one ;)
Pretty much confirmed at this point by nikon rumors. Looks like Nikon will then have the most extensive lineup of first party 1.2 primes in the world
WOW that transition from focus to defocus is really really really impressive 😮😮😮
Nice vid!
Petastical 😭
better than petaphile
the 200-500 is still my ride or die so i needed a lens like this to finally convince me to push to mirrorless. Nikon is killing it with these two lenses. Take my money.
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This is definitely on my radar. With internal focus and 70% turn on the wirst to get from 180 to 600 is the selling point for me. I get this and with the 70-200 which I already have, then I got my wildlife area covered. What I like to to test how it behaves if I were to attach a 2xtc? Looking at sample images from those who had this, tells me that this 180-600 is sharp. In broad daylight, you're shooting f8 or f11 mostly anyway...
It would be interesting to compare a setup with that Nikon 180-600 vs a Sony setup with the 200-600 for wildlife of course 👌🏻
This might be what stops me from going from my D500 to Sony if this lens beats out Sony's 200-600mm
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I’ve been waiting for this lens to swap out my Sony a9 and 200-600mm to either the z8 or z9. Can’t wait to see some comparisons.
A very interesting and must have comparison. But one thing to take into consideration is that the Sony lens is already 3 years old. I new version is coming soon ? Lighter, smaller and faster autofocus with the XD Linear motors ?
@@rodrigomartin-hidalgo1592 seems pretty unlikely. 3 years is nothing for a lens. The Nikon 200-500 is still being sold and it came out in 2015!
Good to see the price price point for both lenses are indeed for the masses. A much needed option. I say both lenses are pretty good.
I remember the olden days when people said "Nikon Z cameras are good but there are no longer lenses" Now I don't know which one to buy next.
Nikon is roaring back on the scene...good for them...
Shoot. I have the 70-200 2.8S, simply a great lens. But that size comparison to the 70-180 2.8 is pretty darn impressive. My wife bought me the 24-120 f/4 and now I barely use my 24-70 2.8. That 70-180 is probably going in the bag when it comes out, especially for travel.
I’ve watched several of the reviews of this lens, fellows, and, as usual you guys nailed it. Simply the best review, thorough, succinct and amusing. I’ll be watching for the end of the world in 2140.
That 70-180 is a fantastic addition especially as it takes teleconvertors.
Nikon is really impressing lately. Chris and Jordan are excellent as usual.
Another amazing lens from Nikkor!
I have a feeling Nikon 35-150 is coming soon.
I can't describe how excited I am for that 180-600mm lens oh my GOD, finally.
I love the deer looking over its shoulder and sticking out its tongue 😂❤
Im really enjoying these videos guys, im not even a nikon shooter but its always interesting to see your view on it. been following for some time, in the changes from channel to channel and I have to say, really trust your input on lenses and cameras! I'd love to see more fujifilm stuff, even if its third party alternatives for the system, which have been growing lately. keep it up team!
Chris has made me spit beer on my son twice now with his intros
You're getting back into your flow with this video, after you moved house and obviously had some adjustment time. Great! This is the Jordan and Chris review we love to watch, even if we shoot another brand.
The 180-600 is indeed a very good lens, and despite what some reviews will tell you, it works very well with the
2 x TC. My 200-500 is now back in it's box and consigned to the loft with my other F mount lenses.
This looks like an amazing option for Nikon wildlife photographers on a budget, I wish Canon would offer something similar...
I agree, except that Canon has lots more budget friendly cameras (R7, R8, Etc.) with great AF. Nikon is behind when comes to friendly budget camera with great AF.
Just what I was thinking. I'm kind of locked into Canon at this point, but if I was starting from scratch, I'd seriously be considering Nikon.
Sad to see DP Review fade away but I gotta tell ya, this YT version is a lot better in so many ways, for starters, it's great to have the personal aspect and human interface. Great job keeping an informative tradition alive all the while making it better (in my humble opinion anyway... :).
DPReview has been reacquired so it's here to stay.
But the uncertainty caused them to lose an very valueable 2 man team.
If Nikon "made" a 17-70mm f/2.8 for APS-C and Canon R7 equivalent camera body that 70-180 & 180-600 would make a killer three lens combo for APS-C.
A z50 with ibis and full sensor readout at 60p would be nice
24mp is nice but the 12mp a7s3 showed that sometimes high iso capability is needed
And add a focus joystick too
The focal range of the 70-180 would be nice to see and many 70-200 are not 200mm at close focus, headshot distance.
Good job that Nikon have got you product to review
The original Tamron 70-180 has 0.5x close focus, but only with manual focusing. It's probably the same with Nikon version.
@@USGrant21st @180mm?
@@logtothebase2@70mm
Many 70-180 @180 are not 180 at close distances…
@@pawelmod3292 Do you meen 70-200 2.8's? i'm not aware of any other 70-180 2.8s? if so I agree, thats why am wondering how this focuses at the long end , for say head and shoulder shots.
Wikipedia about medium format camera brand "Bronica": "In 1959, Nippon Kogaku sold Nikkor lenses to Shinkodo (Bronica Corporation, current Tamron Corporation) which made for Zenza Bronica medium-format SLR cameras."
So the history of Nikon as design supplier to Zenza Bronica, now called Tamron, is age old.
Love this ❤❤ Ordered one today. Delivery is said to be August .
Looks really good. The zoom range n price point. A winner for Nikon.
Interesting lenses - and great fact about damsel/dragonflies, didn't know that about their wings
Those duck photos too turned out very well
I bought this lens, it's fantastic. Perfect for the kind of photos and videos I take and make.
That 70-180mm would be great paired with either the 24-120f4 or 24-70 f4 for a small do everything travel lens kit.
Both lenses appear to be sharp. The new Nikon 70-180mm lens looks actually like the Tamron but the exterior is finished to a higher degree.
It looks like Tamron because it is rehoused Tamron.
Tamron is OEM for a handful of non S-line Z mount lenses
When you look at the the retail of the Tamron 70-180, the Nikon version is only $50 more full retail. Lets say it is Tamron built, there is a benefit of making sure firmware is designed properly to the Nikon system over it being 3rd party. I wonder if there is any difference with lens coating. Even if the profit margin for Nikon is lower, it will be low R&D cost for Nikon also but a nice low entry cost into the system for the consumer and possibly a loyal customer. Not a bad deal for everyone.
The 180-600 is a great lens. I bought the 180-600mm rather than the 600mm and the money I saved paid for half of the Z 800mm. Then I upgraded the 180-600 to the amazing 100-400mm S lens. With these 2 lenses that can both be put into a carry-on bag, covers the entire range of 100mm-1,600mm. (with TCs). The 100-400 has very close focusing and fits into the case for the 70-200 lens.
tamron 70-180 looks great
its nikon! i swear!
@@MrNoipe Nikon Branded version of tamron a056, maybe optimized for AF at closest distance. And TC-1.4x/2.0x compatible
It's Tamron, all right. Had Nikon allowed Tamron to change the mount themselves, it would have been $150 cheaper.
These DO look like re branded tAMRON...
I learned about damselflies 🙂 had no idea. Thankyou
Love that jazzy background music early in the video. Appreciate the early look.
That damselfly looks like a Coenagrion puella to me. Nice to see you have same species as in Europe. The dragonfly is a Libellula quadrimaculata (to the four spots on each of it’s wings) for sure.
Ordered!
I dont even earn money as a photographer and I'm fully prepared to buy this telephoto. Ive been waiting for too long!!!
What, the Nikkor version of the 70-180 will take TCs?! I'm jealous now.
And it is almost half of what Canon users have to come up with for the 100-500 which is 100mm less.
Yep I'm jealous over here in Canon land.
Meanwhile Sony users can get the Tamron 150-500 with linear focus motors for under a grand...
@@youknowwho9247 Yeah, well at least there have been rumors that Sigma is now producing AF lenses for RF.
"This episode was shot on the Nikon Z8" - it would be great Jordan, if you make an episode comparing the S5 IIx and Z8 in terms of video shooting. Both cameras are great, but they are so different that it's difficult to figure out which one suits better. You have experience with both of them, give us your judgment!
was initially thinking how awesome the 200-500mm prices (especially used) will be now, but after seeing how OOF transition looks... i'm buying this !
Looks good, interested in both lenses so will look forward to production version tests.
Nikon is soooo aggressively competing these days.. Omg is lebs is so cheaper, I'm definitely going to buy this lens❤❤❤❤❤
I love the Bow River too, almost got killed by a bull Elk in matting season once tho, so be careful up there guys.
Those bull elks are especially aggressive during "matting season"! 🙂
Bokeh is actually really nice generally speaking.
This Nikon 70-180mm with Nikon coatings might perform a bit better than Tamron one, presented chart looks great + it accepts TC! (and have 140-360mm f/5.6). I would take it for weddings over 70-200/2.8 S any time - the size!!!
Hate it when the VR switch isn't on the lens but I'd imagine you'd have VR on most of the time anyway with a lens like this.
And wow, it's nice to see a reasonable price on a lens these days.
I have a switch on the lens, S 150-600 S, and I never remember what the options 1 and 2 represent on the lens. I'd prefer choosing on the menu and actually understand what I choose.
Could you use a programable button? I'm not sure if vr is an option
The Nikon Z 1800-600 is and outstanding lens, I honestly don't think it can get any better for the price. I have the 1.4 Nikon Z teleconverter and that paired with this lens is just magical. I don't see how anyone would spend the price of a car for the Nikon Z 400 2.8.
I’d be interested in how this lens performs with extension tubes to shorten the focal distance. Would be amazing to get it down to 3 feet!
Hey, Nikon Rep, 2023 ought to be the year that consumers are told when a major manufacturer rebadges a third-party lens. If Nikon makes minor changes to a Tamron design, that is a selling point to us consumers that Nikon is willing and ready to partner with industry leaders to produce lenses for the needs of all of their customers. Also, if Nikon has improved the design, that sounds like something consumers would love to hear you brag about instead of leaving us all to assume that you just took an existing Tamron design, had them make it for you, and then slapped your name on it to charge more for it and bring it into your lens catalog.
Well, glass presumably made by Tamron but everything else by Nikon, including extra coatings on the lenses, focusing motors and weathersealing. There's a price to pay with all of the advantages.
@@WillymazeAnd you know this how? Everything points to the lens being exactly identical to the Tamron, except for the plastic casing. That's the only way for this thing to make sense from an economical standpoint. Sidenote: I'd be happy if the focus motors especially are Tamron's, because their VXD linear motors are better than anything Nikon makes. Case and point, the 180-600 has a stepping motor. In 2023. On a wildlife lens...
@@youknowwho9247 You should look at any of the S line lens motors. The 180-600 is a budget consumer wildlife lens. They save their best parts including coatings and focus motors for the professional designs like the 100-400.
@@youknowwho9247 We can all speculate but don't you think by having exactly the same lens it would be a straight Tamron?
I love Tamron and I still own the F-mount trinity and the 35mm 1.4, but Nikon has the edge in weathersealing and lens construction. Also, it accepts Nikon teleconverter, something that the Sony versions won't do.
Matt Irwin shows that it has virtually no chromatic aberration nor flares and the E-mount does at a certain degree.
@@youknowwho9247 I would love to rent the 28-75 Z and compare it with the G2 version that I have and see it Nikon's version has the edge or not.
Nikon needs to stop treating the truth like a dirty little secret. They made a partnering decision and they should be proud that decision. The 70-180 looks like a good lens; let it be what it is.
No V.R. switch on the lens *is* annoying. Even the 200-500 had a V.R. switch on the lens. Still, it looks like a very good and affordable lens for wildlife. I believe it was Nikon Rumors that thought the 70-180 is a re-badged Tamron, which is fine as they are making some very good lenses and if the mount is licensed by Nikon they should work very well.
3:55 😂😂😂
I love watching your videos.
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always 👌👍
I hope the full review will contain a proper comparison with the 200-500! I use that one right now and I'm happy with it but the 180-600 could be a fun upgrade in the future :)
Me too! I’m a happy long-time user of the 200-500 as well. I have shot tons hand-held with it and the only hope I have is that this new one can do better in the area of af-speed, zoom-throw and a shorter close range distance. Of course, with a lens of this kind the bokeh quality (subjective) is important too. By they way, internal focusing is a bonus since I’m often out and about in very adverse conditions. But, touch wood, no moisture have ever entered my trusted 200-500 despite the external focus mechanism. So maybe nothing to worry about?
@@freetibet1000 The 200-500 seems solid enough as long as you don't travel to super dusty areas or use it in the rain. And it's true, the throw on the zoom ring is pretty ridiculous.
But it looks like they have improved pretty much all of that. And didn't the 200-500 launch at a similar price, too?
@@MattisProbably Yes, I think it launched around the same price point as this new one. Since I’m still in the DSLR camp with a D850 & D810 I will have to wait a while longer anyway. But I’m very impressed with what Nikon have produced for the Z line users. And this affordable zoom is bound to become a big hit for them. Thanks for a inspiring conversation.
funny on the damsel and dragonfly comment. Loved it. LOL
Sir, love the review. And reviews like this really make me want this lens even more. I just wanted to suggest at @4:00 it is wrong to say this lens has “macro capabilities”…. It just has “close up ability”. 1:4 is FAR from “macro”.
Macro is 1:1 or better. Example of better, 2:1, 3:1, 4:1, and etc…. Then you get off in to “micro” (super macro and better).
Consider explaining this lens has a very very nice minimum focal distance for something at 600mm allowing you to get decently close. But again, not at all Macro.
Sorry to be triggered. Love your work!
Was this your fastest review ever!?? 🤔 I think so !! 😂
It's always nice to watch you guys anyways 😊
5:10 ducky seems happy with the sharpness.
Great review! Deer at 5:20 lol. Great bokeh.
Great products from Nikon. Thank you, Chris !
The price seems to be affordable..
This and the 20 mm 1.8 will do my needs perfectly.
I'll be really curious to see AF speed of this lens versus the 100-400 as that's something super important to me when birding and photographing fighter jets...
Thanks for the confirmation the 70-180 is a Nikkor authorized version of Tamron
Looks like a winner for Nikon. Side question, anyone know what bag Chris has during this video?
I noticed with my externally zooming Tamron 150-500mm, that birds quite often fly away when I zoom out quickly. I mean, you're still rotating your hand, but I think the overall shape of the lens not changing is also going to be an advantage in some situations.
Always a pleasure to see you guys!
Great review. Thank you.
I find it amusing that Ricci pretty much gives us every information we need on the lens, and people can do whatever they want with this lens in the local Nikon stores, yet most of the UA-camrs only have a few hours with it.
Ricci video shows that this lens has same image quality as 100-400, and I tried the AF speed back to back against 100-400 in the local Nikon store, they are indistinguishable. This lens is a no-brainer for me.
OMG, I just bought Z100-400 few days ago.
now, where's the Ta.. Nikon 35-150 F2-2.8
There was a 70 - 180mm Micro zoom lens, long days before, i own 2 of them ;-))
For underwater great!
Thats one serious lens 😮
it’s interesting how 180-600 compares with sigma 60-600 under F, now I’m using sigma and thinking about whether to change it to Nikon.
Nice, I will grab a copy of the 180-600mm. Looks like an all around great zoom range for wildlife photography. Too bad that Nikon announces great lenses and still don't have it in stock. The 800mm, the 600mm and the 400mm F2.8 Z lenses... Hey! Thanks for pronouncing "bouquet" in the correct way! International photographers rejoice! : )
Excellent intro to this awesome 180-600 lens, Chris! 2 questions please...At f/8, can you really see a major difference in sharpness between it and the Nikkor Z 100-400 S? And, who sells an Arca-Swiss compatible foot plate? (I still can't understand why Nikon's telephoto collars/feet are not Arca-Swiss compatible?! Doesn't every serious photographer use Arca-Swiss compatible gear, i.e., ball heads, pan-tilt, gimbal, etc.?) Thank you sir.
Yes!! Finally...
Love it ❤
Which camera would you recommend between the Nikon D850 and the Nikon Z7 MK2? You have a lot of experience in photography and have use a lot of different cameras.
Compare it with sony 200-600 in full review
Off topic but what shoulder bag are you carrying? On topic, thanks for the peak. This lens is going on my preorder list today.
How do you think it will compare against the z400 4.5 with 1.4 TC? Of course can't beat the zoom capability
Man, Chris is in a hurry in this video... 😳
Need a wildlife system. Nikon Z8 with 180-600 vs A7R5 with 200-600. Seems the price is the same.
IMO A7R5 is not a great wildlife camera. Go stacked sensor.
Another win for Nikon
Great video thank you.
I am just transitioning (back) to Nikon due almost entirely to the Z8. I have the 24-120mm lens to begin with and was planning on going with the 100-400 as my telephoto zoom. (I am just someone who enjoys photography as a hobby, I am not a pro.)
At one time, I was shooting a Sony A7iii with the 200-600, but I found that it was too big of a lens to carry around "just in case" I might need a long lens and I switched to the A7Riii & the Sony 100-400GM thinking that if I need to get in closer, I could crop and still end up with an image with a similar resolution to what I would get with my A7iii & the 200-600 but with a lot less weight and bulk.
My question is this, how would you compare this lens to the Nikon 100-400? Would the extra reach be offset by the additional weight? IMHO, (and everyone will be different), having the extra reach is of little value if I tend to leave the lens in the car because I don't want to carry it with me "in case" I see something.
Thanks.
Thanks, you guys. Dang, I think I want too many Nikon things. Starting with that Z8, then this lens and several other lenses. But I still have the D850, D750, and a bunch of their lenses…😬
They should have partnered with Sigma, but Tamron are making great lenses too, it's OK by me!
That 180 to 600 would be cool to compare with the sigma 150 to 600
I think i should've specified a bit, the sigma 150 to 600 sport is a similar zoom range and might be a bit of competition since it's in a similar price range but a bit more expensive. The sigma 150 to 600 contemporary is much cheaper for pretty much the same lens, just less rugged design than the sport but making it even more competition for the nikon lens. Anyways if you don't like my question you can suck my ass
Indeed!
it will flatten the Sigma.... wait and see...
No comparisons needed. Internal zoom beats external zoom any day in the long telephoto zoom category.
Sigma 150-600's zoom ring has very long travel distance, and not very smooth.
Internal zoom and short throw already makes the Nikon superior. I have no doubts the Nikon will have superior image quality once more tests are done.
Can we use all type of shutter speeds, like slow fast,when vibration reduction is on of the lens,any restriction technically
Everyone Tell Nikon we need a enthusiast Z, APSC body with all the fast features for nature and wildlife.
It could even be a 24-30mp sensor.
I've got the feeling that one will need the Pope's recommendation in order to get hold of one of these once they hit the market with it!! Average waiting time 5 years! I think Nikon has a big hit in the pipeline with this lens! I'll put my name down yesterday!
Very nice
temptation
Quick one PP - how does the weight and hand ability and optic quality of this lens compare against the Nikon 200-500 F5.6 AFS VR ?
Let us know about the SHARPNESS IN THE EDGES please (70-180), So us landscapers get a precise idea. thanks
how can it be the best wildlife lens? It's large, heavy, slow and not even very long. I have no doubt that the lens performs great, but it' a compromise on all fronts. As a budget lens for someone who really needs zoom? Absolutely great. But best wildlife lens? C'mon.
The Tamron 70-180, that's a different story. I can't wait for that one