+Skooma Much Rome 1 is the best. Shogun maps are so small and restricted. The most manouvering you can do is going around this ridge or that ridge, this choke point or that choke point, this side of the lake or the other and that is as far as manouvering in Shoguns go.
I'm a little interested in why Rome 2 is bad. I know it had bugs but I heard a large amount were removed. Didn't they just improve on Shogun 2? I love shogun 2 and I wanted Rome 2 when it went on sale...
bakester17 They did not. No sir. Shogun 2 is an improvement on earlier titles and on rome 2. If you're not a fan of the series since rome 1 it won't hurt as bad. You won't even know anything's that bad if you're completely new. But they stripped many features that were core to the series, used an engine that turned infantry combat into a nightmare before your very eyes, and left a lot to be desired where improvements could have been abundant.
I just bought a laptop last week and I missed out on it being free but honestly I don't care. The game so far is like an insane samurai chess match it's incredible
That ending: him saying that this might be total war's last hurrah, that total war needed to do something fresh and that maybe going for a not so historical setting is a step in the right direction. That is a lot of predictions that came true.
Almighty Loaf I don't even understand how this franchise can have more than two time periods represented in it, considering there has only been TWO wars in all of human history: The Crimean War and Rome vs. Carthage
***** SectorOneAlpha Kingdoms was the last innovative TW expansion too, in my opinion. After that, the Warscape engine and the poor design decisions, on top of not properly Beta testing their games, CA has pretty much kicked the bucket with Rome II. But you know what? THEY DONT CARE. They got 40% more pre-orders from Rome 2 than ANY Total War game to date. They're just gonna continue to DLC whore and people will buy every little thing
I disagree, I think Shogun 2 while good is only middle of the road in the series. Rome 2, Empire and Medieval 2 are better imo. I say this based on the games as they are now not as they were at release. The biggest thing for Shogun 2 is its time period which rocks but everything else about it is pretty bad. Medieval 2 and Empire the AI cheats but the level at which the AI cheats in Shogun 2 is horrific, e.g im playing it atm on hard as Shimazu and I own all of Kyushu, ive invaded Shikoku owning the 2 provinces, the Chosokabe have the other 2 and they have 2 full banner armies made up exclusively of Samurai not a single Ashiguru on top of this they have 2 huge navies made up of Sengoku Bane, I can barely support this with 4 times the provinces, they dont even have any trade partners I have 4. The game is not that well optimized, I can have 4+ full banner armies on Rome 2 with settings maxed and running at triple speed, with 2 full banners on Shogun 2 i cant even run at triple speed without the frame rate tanking. The game after 20 turns is just 4-6 huge clans on my game there are 5 left after 38 turns with Chosakabe dead it will be 4! Diplomacy is horrible too i mean i offer Chosakabe peace and despite them having only 2 territory left they say no, but then again if I had unlimited money id say no too. Dont get me wrong its a decent game, but too many rose colored glasses are worn when talking about Shogun 2.
callum flude dude, you had some valid points, and then you mentioned rome 2. Come on, that game REQUIRES rose colored glasses to be considered worthwhile. For its time and even still to date Shogun 2 pulled almost everything together that the series is trying to do. You have to at least realize that it was the most polished of the franchise right?
RoboticApplesauce "Polished" is used in so many different ways by so many different people i dont tend to use the word if you can clarify what you yourself mean by polished I could answer your question a bit better. But fast battles, super agents, op archers, bad AI, bad diplomacy (all things ive seen people complain about Rome 2 for) are basically the exact same in Shogun 2, especially the fast battles and if anything archers in Shogun 2 are even stronger comparatively to their Rome 2 cousins Samurai Archers in numbers of 4-5 squads can pretty much take out a unit with one volley. The Ai gets a boost in Rome 2 sure in terms of economy but its a fixed amount of something like 800-1000 for the smaller factions its in the game files but in Shogun 2 the AI cheats like a mother fucker, the Chosokabe i mentioned in my earlier comment, literally one hour ago when i was playing (keep in mind they have 2 settlements left) I destroyed their 2 full banner armies (full of samurai) when they attacked a fort i own, I lost a lot of my troops but figured hey at least they take time to rebuild what they lost but nope before I had even recovered from that last attack another full stack of samurai attacked me lol needless to say I lost the town, unless they were somehow supporting 60 units of Samurai of off 2 towns then they just pulled that army out of their ass, but tbh this isnt new news people have known about the AI spawning armies for ages. People complained that Rome 2 had too fast battles but Shogun 2 has the exact same battles. example that 2 v 1 i mentioned a bit a go contained about 6000 troops and was over in about 10 mins. Sure Rome 2 has a worse interface especially when generals level up etc but it has so many thing which are better than Shogun 2, for example Rome 2 you get 2-4 cities= 1 province, control the province get a bonus (edict) this is without a doubt the best settlement system a total war game has had to date.
Playing Shogun 2 after Rome 2, and damn, its like a breath of fresh air. Yeah, while Emperor Edition fixes most of the bugs etc. its still medicore game.
callum flude Fair enough, by polished i simply mean implementing the games concepts in such a way that they work as intended. While some mechanics may be not fleshed out, or slightly unbalanced, the game is still what the developers envisioned. Shogun 2 might not be perfect but one cant deny that it is a finished game with many of its main and most side mechanics working fluidly enough that the majority of people who have played it can understand the difference in play-ability when comparing this game and Rome 2. The biggest problem is that even after the patches Rome 2 still does not behave like a complete game, with certain parts or sequences feeling rushed or incomplete. As Joe said in his Rome 2 video its a general problem in game development these days that developers are rushed for a final product. That said, we as a community don't have to accept that and in fact we should be calling out flaws. Rome 2 is a clear downgrade from Shogun 2, maybe not in technology but definitely in at least Combat AI, Menu design, and overall streamlining (waiting five minutes for the AI to finish their turns is absolutely exhausting). While i understand, and actually agree with many of your problems with game balancing, you cant compare them to the incredible glitchy marvel to unfinished game design that Rome 2 represents. Thank you for fleshing out the discussion, its nice to have a good UA-cam debate every now and then :)
MusketWalrus Hopefully they will make it at least enjoyable. I know Empire sucked at launch and it eventually became good a while later. I hope the same thing happens with rome 2 but it might be too late already.
GenericFakeName warring three kingdoms china would be great kinda like a dynasty warriors like setting with shu wu and wei with other factions like the yellow turban army, dong zhao, jin etc
No, he said he was worried about the future of CA's actual "creative assembly"and he was right the new total war has no good innovation and ugh. . don't get anyone started on this.
My problem with TW Warhammer is when I first started a siege battle against the dwarves I.was expecting this awesome imposing fortress crafted by the best dwarves, and well...uh...I ended up pouring bleach all over.my computer and then drinking it. Siege battles are so fun and how the new "battles," if they can even be called that, have utterly shat on them. *sigh* they pissed me.off with warhammer so much it's just not a TW game imo. No formations, no good sieges, and no naval battles. Oh and for.some reason neither my dwarven or orcish campaigns were able to get past turn 100 not sure if it's a bug but it was my last straw.
wowsuchname verysurname Wait... you just said there are none, thus following it up by saying the ones that are there are horrible make it an oxymoronic sentence.
your obviously just a hater/troll because there are great cutsences in Shogun 2. Rome 2 however has almost none. Love you see keyboard warriors in forums they have no clue about.
Xevan yeah. and i love how the units plays out. they don't look fake and they don't pushed against each other and ending up in a moshpit, and l like how the campaign and battle map plays out, rome 2, attila and warhammer looks so off.
I'm somewhat concerned that Joe's suggestions at the end of this video were the launching points for the Rome 2 Abortion. They had a good thing going... If it's not broken, dont' fix it.'
11:05 i only watched this after watching your rome 2 review. too bad. you are right though, the options are limitless. As long as they stick with swords and spears. I do not think they should do WWII total war. Some disagree with me on this.
It would have been cool if they got the interns to do the peasant soldier animations, and the professionals for the samurai. Then we could see a difference between the two.
Well, in that period the ashigaru were often times professional soldiers, sometimes even better in single combat than samurai. Some of them even had better Armour than lesser Samurai.
This is the only Total War game that makes me totally submerged into the world. I played like 200+ hours on Rome 2 and Attila, but 1500+ hours on Shogun 2.
Shogun 2 is still my third favorite behind Rome 1 and Medieval 2... an EXTREMELY close third. Gameplay-wise it is by far the best and most polished.. I'm just a bigger fan of the Roman and Medieval time periods so that's my own bias. However, Shogun 2 is an absolutely gorgeous and well-made game that I could tell was made with passion by the developers, especially Fall of the Samurai. FOS was essentially Creative Assembly saying "yeah, about Empire... that was our bad."
"allies" and backstabbing or just having your allies watch as you get slaughtered, may not actually be a lack in the ai but rather a realistic way of showing that you can't trust any other clan really. e.g. i had conquered 3 or 4 enemy factions together with the uesugi and shortly after they stabbed me in the back where it hurt most. so generally the best tactic is to betray your allies before they can do the same to you :)
You probably activated Realm Divide which means diplomacy is impossible. All the clans are now against you and in favor of the Shogun for the sake of status quo. Your allies won't turn against you, not right away but if pay attention to their relation status with you, you will notice it going down fast to Hostile. You will also notice your ally or allies dragging their feet more and being less willing to help you. Basically, think of it this way: everyone wants to be Shogun and that means they won't help someone else get it.
What were promised in the trailer and the "magical flags" we got now are 2 completely different thing: In that Cartharge seige trailer for R2, they promised us a capture points system so each capture means something (bonuses, morale boosts, etc. which were already in custom battles in S2), and all we got a random magical flags out of nowhere thing instead. R2TW is unfinished game and we are paid 60$ to beta-test.
I actually went back and played a domination campaign on legendary mode in Shogun II due to how bad Rome II sucked. Let's see if CA can fix that mess, since the idea and direction isn't bad (except for that damn flag), but the game is just too buggy and the ai too stupid.
Mostly bad AI, poor scripting, numerous glitches in the map/terrain, not to mention the campaign AI was EXTREMELY forgiving, much like Dawn of War Soulstorm, you have it on any difficulty and the AI just does nothing...
***** It's because the warscape engine is terrible and doesn't compliment melee combat, even here in Shogun 2. I don't like this 1v1 scripted bullshit, it rustles my jimmies badly. What's worse is Rome II doesn't care about fixing bugs, just DLC whoring.
Lot's of things were wrong but IMO the thing which did not get enough attention were the siege battles. Empire and Napoleon's siege battles are the worst in the series and a complete joke. In previous games a fort could allow a much smaller army survive an attack by a much larger one and at the very least force you to play differently and think carefully and forts in different parts of the world were different maps entirely and also depended on how the settlement was upgraded . In Napoleon and Empire it's just two forts, the Star forts from Renaissance Italy, just fantastic. Yes the ME factions had different forts but they were still the same thing just different skins. The main issue though was on the one hand every fort was the same, it didn't matter if you were attacking Paris or Innsbruck the forts were the same, no city streets, no buildings, just the same walls surrounding a couple of military houses. On top of this forts gave little advantage to the defender, every infantry unit can climb up the walls without needing a ladder because they had grappling hooks, so there goes the strategy behind siege towers and ladders and hello to having to defend every single spot on the fort removing any advantage it could've had. The fort walls provide cannons for infantry on them, but they can't shift left and right so all the attacker has to do is attack the corner. On top of this once the enemy has taken the walls it was over because there was nothing inside the fort, in Medieval 2 that could very well have only been the first step and then even more intense fighting awaited the enemy inside. On top of this attacking a settlement was very dumbed down to the point that there was no longer any difference between attacking a settlement and attacking out in the open unless the player or the AI invested the money into building a fort, which they rarely did, for the AI because it doesn't like to invest the money in that and the player because most players hated playing siege battles. It sucked because what really would've made the game better would've been unique maps to settlements so that attacking Constantinople had a realistic map which well mirrored the real Constantinople, a city surrounded by water and with thick levels of walls surrounding it. A map like that would require naval and land units so Medieval 2 couldn't do it. The forts in Empire/Napoleon would've been great and made alot of sense if they were some frontier fort like at the border or in the America's, but it doesn't make any sense for anything else, not even for a tiny city. Empire/Napoleon could've at least created a unique siege battle for Vienna, Berlin, Paris, Moscow and London. But instead attacking one of them was the same as attacking the other, the factions were different but there was no unique units that came to play, the King himself wouldn't be on the battlefield to protect his capital (ok Moscow was the not the capital of Russia at the time). The worst part is is that they were rare, so the game knows how much they suck and avoids siege battles as much as possible meaning even CA knew how much they sucked.
Try checking movies done by Akira Kurosawa like "Heaven and Earth" or "Kagemusha". Although all the works by Akira Kurosawa on samurai are really good especially the Seven Samurai....and don't forget the tv series Fuurin Kazan.
Am I the only one who thinks Medieval 2 is the best totalwar game up to now? It IS followed by shogun 2 in my eyes but i like medieval 2 more, i know it sounds odd but i like medieval 2's graphics more, it's like CS:S or CS 1.6 vs CS:GO to me, a lot of people like both but most agree that old is gold :D
I have watched this about four times in the last six hours, I have no plans to stop watching this. Honestly, the Geisha moment might be my favorite thing on youtube, I genuinely laughed at that. This is one of my favorite games of all time. I have played thousands of hours of it and I have never been bored once. Each time I am able to strategically play the game with enough distinction that even if I played the Takeda a hundred times I would be satisfied that I hadn't played the game the same way twice.
+Alfred Ashford I liked it too. I guess the release version was a mess, but when I got it... I liked it. Only thing I would complain is the artillery not being able to hit anything.
Okay so, i've only played this Total War and I thought it did a really good job (with the exception of the diplomacy AI and... well the AI in general at times). Why exactly do other people think this game sucks in comparison to games like Rome 1 Total War or Medieval II: Total War, what do they offer and do well that this game doesn't?
Mostly complaints that it offers less unit and faction variety. I guess also the more streamlined family tree, although you get so few generals that it makes them more valuable. Then there are the fringe contingent who says that Total War should always stay European because....I don't know.
Because a lot of people consider Rome 1 or Medieval 1/2 as the apex of the series, also, because the majority of Total War has been set in European theaters or had a big focus on them (Empire and Nappy).
well, I own every total war game from rome 1 to rome 2, so these are how i rank them from best to worst medieval 2- fucking awesome Shogun 2- obvious Napoleon- improved on what empire did right and mostly fixed what it didn't Empire- had it's moments, but really buggy and kind of dull Rome 1- I know this is wrong, but I just don't really dig this game, It just hasn't aged well like Medieval 2 Rome 2- obvious reasons
I started with Medieval 2 , played some Rome, Napoleon is really AWESOME and Empire, but Rome 2...I'm thinking about buying Shogun 2 instead, I have limited budget, so, does any1 still play Shogun 2 ?
I've met this guy in the rome 2 angry video review, initially I thought the review was too good to be true and he was going to sudenly rage, because he looks so happy comparing to the rome 2 total war video.
I own Rome: Total War and suggest you go for that. There are a lot of different combat tactics such as a Shield Wall and Phalanx, and you will never feel more badass than when you first order your Roman Cohorts with full units on max settings to form a Testuedo. I am currently addicted however so be warned. I currently own almost the whole franchise. At worse it is always something you can fall back on if you don't like it, as it is a unique time period.
I've played Total War for god knows how long, and while I'm not saying Rome is bad, Shogun 2 is just.. so amazing. My favorite, in my opinion. I could list tons of reasons but honestly its your choice. The vote in the comments here seems to be 3 Shogun, 2 Rome, so again it's your choice. Both are great though, I don't think you'll be disappointed either way :)
I really expected Rome II to be not much more than an "expanded Shogun II" with more diverse factions, a larger map and different artwork of course. The tech-, expirience- and family trees were perfect and led to unique agents and interesting campaigns.
Guys: Really?! Again?! I've already been in such a discussion and lastet for months! katana bend more easily, while longsword was a bit slower. Knights were better on horseback, samurai better on foot ... and so on! We'll never know who's better, because they're all dead by now. Looks like they've all lost. Each smither has his own techniques, so there are different results. ( And even the persons would have been skilled differently) So before you keep discussing: Just enjoy the game!
DerDingsreturnsnochmal You need to keep in mind that there are few things that most japan-lover morons will never accept, no matter what. Those things are called “history” and “technological progress”. Japan like every other non-European culture(besides unstable China Empire and its sad story of fall) was always way back in term of technological progress in relationship to Europe. So when We, by “We” I mean people from Europe - I’m Polish, had Medival Knights in battlefield, they were only importing swords from China and tried their own first modification on its designs. And when Japanese military finally developed their finest katanas European military was about using projectile weaponry. This also apply to every other aspect of military. For example: techniques of food conserving, healing wounded soldiers, support from some sort of artillery etc. So no matter what, If you take some European army and some Japanese army from the same historical period, Europeans will always win. And this is the only thing which matter in real world.
Chinese accent? lol. Not even close. The closest thing he's sounding like is just gibberish. I understand full well Chinese and Japanese and the 'stereotypical' sounds foreigners make with Asian languages.
It was missing way too many of the features that the first rome total war had and the unit cards were messed up I'd probably give it a 3/10 with the good ai
I agree with everyone one this comment thread. I also find it so dissapointing :( I personally hate the stupid UI and the campaign AI most...its just sickeningly boring to steamroll through, basically, the entire ancient world with almost zero resistance..and I don't even want to start about the useless generals and trivialized family/general system
@@glucky2119 I think it’s caused by the game doing a scan of your system and not understanding what the graphics card is and defaulting to medium or that it does a calculation and loops when it reaches a certain number.
What movie was that at the beginning? At first I thought it was the Battle of Nagashino where the Takeda Cavalry was wiped out by Oda muskets, but then it looked like the main character was Masamune Date. I is teh confus.
Hey guys I have a question, I like games like Rome Total War (the first one) and Civilization 5. So my question is.... would I like this game? Just based on other games I like?
Honestly get Rome 1 and it's expansion Barbarian Invasion, MEdieval 2 and Kingdoms, and Shogun 2 and the dlc if you want. These games are probably the best in the series.
Merland5 Napoleon is actually also a very well made, rounded game - it takes what was good about Empire but without all the issues - it's a really fun, strategic period of history to play in and you find yourself using actual Napoleonic tactics to achieve your goals - True it isn't a groundbreaking game like the original Rome but it's very polished and I would highly recommend it.
On Shogun 2 I generally play with one large army and my settlement defended with a garrison for my buildings to save money, then use ninjas and geisha to halt armies, on rise of the samurai this is easier due to junatsuchi being able to ask for the allegiance of enemy provinces if they support your clan, this can be done by simply having your junatsuchi in their territory.
"My gripe is that you have to kill or break every single unit. no capture the flag modes"
Be careful what you wish for
Lol
Nonce
Rome 2 launch really bit him in the ass there, eh?
Its not very hard to break them just have to hit them on their flank
"...Best Total War game to date"
it still is
+Skooma Much Totally agree with that.
+Skooma Much Rome 1 is the best. Shogun maps are so small and restricted. The most manouvering you can do is going around this ridge or that ridge, this choke point or that choke point, this side of the lake or the other and that is as far as manouvering in Shoguns go.
Mr.Cows
SHHHAMMMMMEFRUUU DISPRAY!
Better than Attila as well as Rome!
*****
"hope is a dangerous thing, it can drive a man insane" - Red
"Can't wait to see what Total war has for us next"...... Ahhhh poor past Joe, he never saw the future coming....
crying.
Freaking sucks mane ;-;
Be afraid....be veeerrryyyyy afraid.
I'm a little interested in why Rome 2 is bad. I know it had bugs but I heard a large amount were removed. Didn't they just improve on Shogun 2? I love shogun 2 and I wanted Rome 2 when it went on sale...
bakester17 They did not. No sir. Shogun 2 is an improvement on earlier titles and on rome 2. If you're not a fan of the series since rome 1 it won't hurt as bad. You won't even know anything's that bad if you're completely new. But they stripped many features that were core to the series, used an engine that turned infantry combat into a nightmare before your very eyes, and left a lot to be desired where improvements could have been abundant.
Oh my god, Its a thin Angry Joe. LOL
StNico but less healthy lol
Oh my god, a body-shamer
Jacob Wells calling a thin person thin is body shaming?
@@mijaco999 That's an sjw for you
@Fat Hibiki I thought they where gone
Whos watching this in 2019? So much rewatch values...
Lavender Ocean 2020 here. Middle of the quarantine. Still one of the better titles in the series....
Its free now hehe
Ha ki I know! Literally playing it right now 😂
I just bought a laptop last week and I missed out on it being free but honestly I don't care. The game so far is like an insane samurai chess match it's incredible
Just so funny to watch this and read the comments asking for China in 2020
2021, still one of the best total war games ever
2023, still one of the best total war games, and will be for quite a long time.
@@p_pattedd5477 Quite literally the best (ok Rome 1 is pretty great, too).
Angry Joe made me a Shogun 2 addict.
Is it better than being a prison addict?
Cody Hines of course
+Badass Elite Good to hear. :)
Do you think its still good to start today? Ive never played
Nikola Milutinovic It's a good game. If you like strategy games you should get it.
That ending: him saying that this might be total war's last hurrah, that total war needed to do something fresh and that maybe going for a not so historical setting is a step in the right direction.
That is a lot of predictions that came true.
well not the last one
warhammer was and is abysmal
@@GodofToast blub dud nub
Warhammer and Troy are just terrible. Everything after FotS has been garbage. No unit collision, weightless projectiles, good lord.
@@TheSmokeyDawn spitting fact after fact after fact
@@TheSmokeyDawn nah, Warhammer is a goat total war game.
"I can not wait to see what total war has for us next" *watches Total war: Rome Review
Almighty Loaf If he would ever read your comment, he'd kill you. Total War Rome TWOOO!!! TWOOO!!! ONE IS PERFECT
jol666aaa
was talking about 2 my bad
Almighty Loaf Looking forward to seeing what Warhammer has to offer
warriorfire8103 I thought Attila was pretty good.
Almighty Loaf I don't even understand how this franchise can have more than two time periods represented in it, considering there has only been TWO wars in all of human history:
The Crimean War and Rome vs. Carthage
Im here from the future of 2022.
Total War Shogun 2, was unfortunately the best and the last real Total War game in the series. Sad, but true.
I wonder how many costumes Joe has...
COUPLEAHUNDREDOFTHEM
Jontron Refrence?
Cody Hines Yep
I ain't havin' that shit.
+Cody Hines He hires most of them, he would own some though.
Heh. "My gripe is that you have to kill or break every unit. No capture the point modes"
Well, that sure got "fixed" in Rome 2, didn't it?
I prefer this over Rome 2 any day.
Medieval Total War 2?
***** The last true Total War.
***** SectorOneAlpha Kingdoms was the last innovative TW expansion too, in my opinion. After that, the Warscape engine and the poor design decisions, on top of not properly Beta testing their games, CA has pretty much kicked the bucket with Rome II. But you know what?
THEY DONT CARE. They got 40% more pre-orders from Rome 2 than ANY Total War game to date. They're just gonna continue to DLC whore and people will buy every little thing
Merland5 Wait wait wait... what!?
*****
yop
11:11 Damn Joe predicted Rome 2
George Zhang what movie is it
Shogun 2 is still by far the best Total War game.
I disagree, I think Shogun 2 while good is only middle of the road in the series. Rome 2, Empire and Medieval 2 are better imo. I say this based on the games as they are now not as they were at release. The biggest thing for Shogun 2 is its time period which rocks but everything else about it is pretty bad. Medieval 2 and Empire the AI cheats but the level at which the AI cheats in Shogun 2 is horrific, e.g im playing it atm on hard as Shimazu and I own all of Kyushu, ive invaded Shikoku owning the 2 provinces, the Chosokabe have the other 2 and they have 2 full banner armies made up exclusively of Samurai not a single Ashiguru on top of this they have 2 huge navies made up of Sengoku Bane, I can barely support this with 4 times the provinces, they dont even have any trade partners I have 4. The game is not that well optimized, I can have 4+ full banner armies on Rome 2 with settings maxed and running at triple speed, with 2 full banners on Shogun 2 i cant even run at triple speed without the frame rate tanking. The game after 20 turns is just 4-6 huge clans on my game there are 5 left after 38 turns with Chosakabe dead it will be 4! Diplomacy is horrible too i mean i offer Chosakabe peace and despite them having only 2 territory left they say no, but then again if I had unlimited money id say no too. Dont get me wrong its a decent game, but too many rose colored glasses are worn when talking about Shogun 2.
callum flude dude, you had some valid points, and then you mentioned rome 2. Come on, that game REQUIRES rose colored glasses to be considered worthwhile. For its time and even still to date Shogun 2 pulled almost everything together that the series is trying to do. You have to at least realize that it was the most polished of the franchise right?
RoboticApplesauce "Polished" is used in so many different ways by so many different people i dont tend to use the word if you can clarify what you yourself mean by polished I could answer your question a bit better. But fast battles, super agents, op archers, bad AI, bad diplomacy (all things ive seen people complain about Rome 2 for) are basically the exact same in Shogun 2, especially the fast battles and if anything archers in Shogun 2 are even stronger comparatively to their Rome 2 cousins Samurai Archers in numbers of 4-5 squads can pretty much take out a unit with one volley. The Ai gets a boost in Rome 2 sure in terms of economy but its a fixed amount of something like 800-1000 for the smaller factions its in the game files but in Shogun 2 the AI cheats like a mother fucker, the Chosokabe i mentioned in my earlier comment, literally one hour ago when i was playing (keep in mind they have 2 settlements left) I destroyed their 2 full banner armies (full of samurai) when they attacked a fort i own, I lost a lot of my troops but figured hey at least they take time to rebuild what they lost but nope before I had even recovered from that last attack another full stack of samurai attacked me lol needless to say I lost the town, unless they were somehow supporting 60 units of Samurai of off 2 towns then they just pulled that army out of their ass, but tbh this isnt new news people have known about the AI spawning armies for ages. People complained that Rome 2 had too fast battles but Shogun 2 has the exact same battles. example that 2 v 1 i mentioned a bit a go contained about 6000 troops and was over in about 10 mins. Sure Rome 2 has a worse interface especially when generals level up etc but it has so many thing which are better than Shogun 2, for example Rome 2 you get 2-4 cities= 1 province, control the province get a bonus (edict) this is without a doubt the best settlement system a total war game has had to date.
Playing Shogun 2 after Rome 2, and damn, its like a breath of fresh air. Yeah, while Emperor Edition fixes most of the bugs etc. its still medicore game.
callum flude Fair enough, by polished i simply mean implementing the games concepts in such a way that they work as intended. While some mechanics may be not fleshed out, or slightly unbalanced, the game is still what the developers envisioned.
Shogun 2 might not be perfect but one cant deny that it is a finished game with many of its main and most side mechanics working fluidly enough that the majority of people who have played it can understand the difference in play-ability when comparing this game and Rome 2.
The biggest problem is that even after the patches Rome 2 still does not behave like a complete game, with certain parts or sequences feeling rushed or incomplete. As Joe said in his Rome 2 video its a general problem in game development these days that developers are rushed for a final product. That said, we as a community don't have to accept that and in fact we should be calling out flaws.
Rome 2 is a clear downgrade from Shogun 2, maybe not in technology but definitely in at least Combat AI, Menu design, and overall streamlining (waiting five minutes for the AI to finish their turns is absolutely exhausting). While i understand, and actually agree with many of your problems with game balancing, you cant compare them to the incredible glitchy marvel to unfinished game design that Rome 2 represents.
Thank you for fleshing out the discussion, its nice to have a good UA-cam debate every now and then :)
He predicted Rome II at 11:11 and Total War Warhammer at 11:37 :o
Ajsa=illuminati confirmed
he didnt tho.
He did because Rome 2 sucks balls.
Rome was shit at release, but aint bad now
so it wasn't a shamefur dispray?
No...Rome II (dare I say its name) was a truly shamefur dispray.
agreed
MusketWalrus Hopefully they will make it at least enjoyable. I know Empire sucked at launch and it eventually became good a while later. I hope the same thing happens with rome 2 but it might be too late already.
A total war game set in ancient China would be awesome.
except its just crushing revolts for 60% of the time, playing CK2 for 30% of the time, and watching your dynasty die to mongols 10% of the time
Yea, but commanding ancient chinese armies and running the factories would be awesome
GenericFakeName warring three kingdoms china would be great kinda like a dynasty warriors like setting with shu wu and wei with other factions like the yellow turban army, dong zhao, jin etc
GenericFakeName A China: Total War is the biggest miss oppurtunity ever. Creative Assembly needs to get on it.
I think one with the whole region of East Asia would be awsome like Korea, Vietnam, Japan, China, Taiwan Mongolia
he anticipated greatness after this game.
then rome 2 happened.
Still sat here trying to get my moneysworth out of Rome 2, having it crash and then loading Shogun 2 back up. The cycle of life continues.
:D
No, he said he was worried about the future of CA's actual "creative assembly"and he was right the new total war has no good innovation and ugh. . don't get anyone started on this.
All i gotta say is Sega,
Is Rome 2 emperor edition better than Shogun 2? It's on sale in steam so was wondering if I should get it
Rome 1, Medieval 2, Shogun 2 and Warhammer are the best. My only problem with Warhammer is that battles are way too short.
For War hammer it depends on what faction you are facing eg vampire counts and green skins which have the lowest base morale.
i heard there are mods to fix in workshop
+happy duckyyy for seige
My problem with TW Warhammer is when I first started a siege battle against the dwarves I.was expecting this awesome imposing fortress crafted by the best dwarves, and well...uh...I ended up pouring bleach all over.my computer and then drinking it. Siege battles are so fun and how the new "battles," if they can even be called that, have utterly shat on them. *sigh* they pissed me.off with warhammer so much it's just not a TW game imo. No formations, no good sieges, and no naval battles. Oh and for.some reason neither my dwarven or orcish campaigns were able to get past turn 100 not sure if it's a bug but it was my last straw.
LOVE Rome 1
As a Total War UA-camr, I miss Shogun 2. I really do.
Oh gamerdudester surprised noones noticed you yet, i love your videos :D
GamerDudester Your content's awesome. Don't stop what you're doing! :-)
GamerDudester Hi man your videos are amazing ^_^
GamerDudester then play it :)
I honestly really liked the CGI cutscenes in the games actually >.
theres none you fuckhead, and the ones that are in there are shit
wowsuchname verysurname Wait... you just said there are none, thus following it up by saying the ones that are there are horrible make it an oxymoronic sentence.
your obviously just a hater/troll because there are great cutsences in Shogun 2. Rome 2 however has almost none. Love you see keyboard warriors in forums they have no clue about.
LordVader1094 well theres obviously ones in there but the ones in there could hardly be called cutscenes. Thats sorta what I was getting at
wowsuchname verysurname You shouldn't of said there were none then :P Plus it was rather rude insulting me just for my opinion on the cutscenes.
"My only gripe is... no capture the points." The answered him in Rome II, in the must infuriating way possible.
"can't wait to see what Total War has for us next"... Lol
Total War: Shogun 2 is still the best total war game in my opinion
i agree
i especially love you can take part in 3 timelines from early to pre-modern era japan :)
they did very good work at it
Xevan yeah. and i love how the units plays out. they don't look fake and they don't pushed against each other and ending up in a moshpit, and l like how the campaign and battle map plays out, rome 2, attila and warhammer looks so off.
.....you really like that shit when they don't have fighting animations do you.....?
Βασίλης Τσαβαλιάς IT''S A MOD TO MEDIEVAL 2 TOTAL WAR AND THEY HAVE THE SAME FIGHTING ANIMATIONS THAT LOOK SHIT AS FUCK
Victor Johnson you know what looks shit as fuck? tgis japanese bullshit with 0 storyline/retarded storyline degenerate campaing and china shit
I'm somewhat concerned that Joe's suggestions at the end of this video were the launching points for the Rome 2 Abortion. They had a good thing going... If it's not broken, dont' fix it.'
***** 2 games a year? Maybe 1 every 1-2 year(s).
***** Other games release DLC as-well. That means 6 Payday games are released each year.
I love how Joe wears the armor throughout the review. It really shows how much he likes the game.
11:05 i only watched this after watching your rome 2 review. too bad. you are right though, the options are limitless. As long as they stick with swords and spears. I do not think they should do WWII total war. Some disagree with me on this.
I'd say after Attila, CA should go for Empire 2.
*****
or midieval 3, that would rock
***** Its still too soon for Empire 2, I'm guessing either something new or most likely medieval 3.
You are right WW2 total war doesn't make sense.
Alex Coulthard china dynasty should be next
who’s watching after 10 years?
We all are 👍
Same as I doing
The intro always kills me. " P U S S I E E E E E "
Joe suggests more RPG Elements for next game, Rome II comes with stripped Immersion and a pointless Politics system... *Sigh* CA just doesn't listen.
Imagine, Mount and Blade: Shogun
TheMinecraftDragon97 There is a very good mod for Mount and Blade that recreates the Sengoku Jidai Japan
Gekokujo mod
TheMinecraftDragon97 there is a mod for mount and blade warband set in Japan called Gekokujo.
+TheMinecraftDragon97 I would play it to death
Nadhif Bhagawanta There is a gekokujo mod, go check it out, you would love it!
It would have been cool if they got the interns to do the peasant soldier animations, and the professionals for the samurai. Then we could see a difference between the two.
***** That is quite a good idea:D I would rather have it in medieval 2 though:P
Well, in that period the ashigaru were often times professional soldiers, sometimes even better in single combat than samurai. Some of them even had better Armour than lesser Samurai.
Ashigaru werent shit soldiers
Shogun 2 could have done with some actual peasant levies
Two years later, Rome 2 came out, and Angry Joe was pissed.
You could attack his hair with a pickax and NOTHING WOULD MOVE.
After i watched this i've installed it, still rocks after nearly 4 years! :D
This is the only Total War game that makes me totally submerged into the world. I played like 200+ hours on Rome 2 and Attila, but 1500+ hours on Shogun 2.
Shogun 2 is still my third favorite behind Rome 1 and Medieval 2... an EXTREMELY close third. Gameplay-wise it is by far the best and most polished.. I'm just a bigger fan of the Roman and Medieval time periods so that's my own bias. However, Shogun 2 is an absolutely gorgeous and well-made game that I could tell was made with passion by the developers, especially Fall of the Samurai. FOS was essentially Creative Assembly saying "yeah, about Empire... that was our bad."
For me first place is three kingdoms and shogun 2 at 2nd place
Thank you Joe, for giving me yet another introduction to a great series. Thanks to you, I got into XCOM, and Total War! :D
8:18 "I can't imagine what a battle like this would be LIFE in real life".
Cant wait to see what total war has next!
-Joe last words before dieyng of heart attack while playing rome 2
"allies" and backstabbing or just having your allies watch as you get slaughtered, may not actually be a lack in the ai but rather a realistic way of showing that you can't trust any other clan really. e.g. i had conquered 3 or 4 enemy factions together with the uesugi and shortly after they stabbed me in the back where it hurt most. so generally the best tactic is to betray your allies before they can do the same to you :)
Thats sure always the best tactic! (y)
Michelle Bucher smartass
Or maybe it's just bad ai.
You probably activated Realm Divide which means diplomacy is impossible. All the clans are now against you and in favor of the Shogun for the sake of status quo. Your allies won't turn against you, not right away but if pay attention to their relation status with you, you will notice it going down fast to Hostile. You will also notice your ally or allies dragging their feet more and being less willing to help you. Basically, think of it this way: everyone wants to be Shogun and that means they won't help someone else get it.
The little Videos are what makes the Total War games fun. I disliked it when they are removed them. I loved watching the outcome of each.
What were promised in the trailer and the "magical flags" we got now are 2 completely different thing:
In that Cartharge seige trailer for R2, they promised us a capture points system so each capture means something (bonuses, morale boosts, etc. which were already in custom battles in S2), and all we got a random magical flags out of nowhere thing instead.
R2TW is unfinished game and we are paid 60$ to beta-test.
DarthMod solves all problems. It made Empire awesome!
yeah it made empire playable, but turned shogun 2 into a Fucking Masterpiece
link please to the one you use
I actually went back and played a domination campaign on legendary mode in Shogun II due to how bad Rome II sucked.
Let's see if CA can fix that mess, since the idea and direction isn't bad (except for that damn flag), but the game is just too buggy and the ai too stupid.
I went playing rome 1
boyke bojke Rome 1 is awesome!!!!
D3ATHBYVENOMZ Medieval 2 (or even 1 ) for me!
yep, another 50+ hrs on shogun2 because ROME2 GAMING EXPERIENCE SUCKKKK SO HARD
why on just shogun 2? I'm playing medieval 2 with some mods I never used like Third Earth or whatever its called. Not half bad!
I'm still playing this, this game was and still is excellent.
Anyone know where Joe gets those prop swords? They look really good
what was ever wrong with empire total war? there wernt any bugs in the 30 hours i played.
AI mostly
Because it has been patched after years?
Mostly bad AI, poor scripting, numerous glitches in the map/terrain, not to mention the campaign AI was EXTREMELY forgiving, much like Dawn of War Soulstorm, you have it on any difficulty and the AI just does nothing...
***** It's because the warscape engine is terrible and doesn't compliment melee combat, even here in Shogun 2. I don't like this 1v1 scripted bullshit, it rustles my jimmies badly.
What's worse is Rome II doesn't care about fixing bugs, just DLC whoring.
Lot's of things were wrong but IMO the thing which did not get enough attention were the siege battles. Empire and Napoleon's siege battles are the worst in the series and a complete joke. In previous games a fort could allow a much smaller army survive an attack by a much larger one and at the very least force you to play differently and think carefully and forts in different parts of the world were different maps entirely and also depended on how the settlement was upgraded . In Napoleon and Empire it's just two forts, the Star forts from Renaissance Italy, just fantastic. Yes the ME factions had different forts but they were still the same thing just different skins. The main issue though was on the one hand every fort was the same, it didn't matter if you were attacking Paris or Innsbruck the forts were the same, no city streets, no buildings, just the same walls surrounding a couple of military houses. On top of this forts gave little advantage to the defender, every infantry unit can climb up the walls without needing a ladder because they had grappling hooks, so there goes the strategy behind siege towers and ladders and hello to having to defend every single spot on the fort removing any advantage it could've had. The fort walls provide cannons for infantry on them, but they can't shift left and right so all the attacker has to do is attack the corner. On top of this once the enemy has taken the walls it was over because there was nothing inside the fort, in Medieval 2 that could very well have only been the first step and then even more intense fighting awaited the enemy inside. On top of this attacking a settlement was very dumbed down to the point that there was no longer any difference between attacking a settlement and attacking out in the open unless the player or the AI invested the money into building a fort, which they rarely did, for the AI because it doesn't like to invest the money in that and the player because most players hated playing siege battles.
It sucked because what really would've made the game better would've been unique maps to settlements so that attacking Constantinople had a realistic map which well mirrored the real Constantinople, a city surrounded by water and with thick levels of walls surrounding it. A map like that would require naval and land units so Medieval 2 couldn't do it. The forts in Empire/Napoleon would've been great and made alot of sense if they were some frontier fort like at the border or in the America's, but it doesn't make any sense for anything else, not even for a tiny city. Empire/Napoleon could've at least created a unique siege battle for Vienna, Berlin, Paris, Moscow and London. But instead attacking one of them was the same as attacking the other, the factions were different but there was no unique units that came to play, the King himself wouldn't be on the battlefield to protect his capital (ok Moscow was the not the capital of Russia at the time).
The worst part is is that they were rare, so the game knows how much they suck and avoids siege battles as much as possible meaning even CA knew how much they sucked.
Does anyone know what movie those clips were from towards the beginning? It looks right up my alley, I'd love to watch it. Maybe Hulu has it!
Try checking movies done by Akira Kurosawa like "Heaven and Earth" or "Kagemusha". Although all the works by Akira Kurosawa on samurai are really good especially the Seven Samurai....and don't forget the tv series Fuurin Kazan.
MrArthoz I have never heard of any of them but will check them all out. Thanks a bunch! :)
MrArthoz from my research I think the movie was "RAN" by Akira as you said. Oooooh boy I'm gonna be spoiled rotten tonight, I can already tell! :D
Darth Malak it was yes
Johnny Fairfax-Lucy ty
Am I the only one who thinks Medieval 2 is the best totalwar game up to now? It IS followed by shogun 2 in my eyes but i like medieval 2 more, i know it sounds odd but i like medieval 2's graphics more, it's like CS:S or CS 1.6 vs CS:GO to me, a lot of people like both but most agree that old is gold :D
+Batuhan dağlı Yeah i absolutely love MTW2, especially with Stainless Steel. It is also the last one to be fully moddable : /
Medieval 2 and Rome 1 are the best, and then comes Shogun
Eh, personally not a fan of Medieval 2
Nathaniel White oh its ok, everyone has the thing they like I personally like Rome 1 and M2TW
Ahh... Back in the day where Joe wasn't fat
I've been watching this show for years. How have I never seen this review? 🤣
What is that movie angry joe uses?! So epic...
+Brady Stevens Ran
HankRutherford Hill thks
I miss that old menu...
I don't because I still play it :D
I have watched this about four times in the last six hours, I have no plans to stop watching this. Honestly, the Geisha moment might be my favorite thing on youtube, I genuinely laughed at that.
This is one of my favorite games of all time. I have played thousands of hours of it and I have never been bored once. Each time I am able to strategically play the game with enough distinction that even if I played the Takeda a hundred times I would be satisfied that I hadn't played the game the same way twice.
Holy shit, Joe was so trim here.
Am I the only one who loved Empire: Total War?
it's one of my top 3 favorite Total war games. I honestly would give it a 8.4/10 (if I was a game reviewer)
It's really good in my opinion
+Alfred Ashford I liked it too. I guess the release version was a mess, but when I got it... I liked it. Only thing I would complain is the artillery not being able to hit anything.
+Alfred Ashford I got like 200+ hours in that game on steam.
No I love that game and it's the one that introduced me to the series
"Hundreds of thousands of soldiers" lol the most i've had is 15k, and thats heavily modded
Your own problem lol
Cyanid Indeed
This review aged very well. hello people from 5 years ago, yes it'll still be great in 2021.
What was that clip from?
I want fall of the samurai so bad, but is it better than my precious shogun 2? Angry Joe pls review FOTS
its basically the beginning of this video where its regular/semimodern samurai armies vs modern armies
Steam sale ends tomorrow! 4.97
I bought it :D
LOVE IT !!!!
mooppy himura I need someone to play co op long campaign with if you interested let me know
Yah but on one condition. I get choshu or tosa
I will wait for CA to remake this masterpiece , even if i have to wait for 20 years .
Where is that clip from that Joe used from 0:38-1:11? I've been trying to find it for ages. xD
The movie is called 'Ran'
Sligo K9 Thank you! :)
Okay so, i've only played this Total War and I thought it did a really good job (with the exception of the diplomacy AI and... well the AI in general at times). Why exactly do other people think this game sucks in comparison to games like Rome 1 Total War or Medieval II: Total War, what do they offer and do well that this game doesn't?
Mostly complaints that it offers less unit and faction variety. I guess also the more streamlined family tree, although you get so few generals that it makes them more valuable. Then there are the fringe contingent who says that Total War should always stay European because....I don't know.
Because they all try hard to be retrospective hippie poser. Ooooh nothing beats the original mannnn. Pfft.
Xander Magne
Why would that be? The very first Total War game was Shogun: Total War.
Because a lot of people consider Rome 1 or Medieval 1/2 as the apex of the series, also, because the majority of Total War has been set in European theaters or had a big focus on them (Empire and Nappy).
Wow, I watched the Rome 2 review, and then the Shogun 2. So sad to see this poor guy got jacked (like all of us did) with Rome 2.
is it me or Joe's Samurai Voices Sound Like Chinese
The optimism in his face, man.
It hurts me in my very soul
Pretends to speak Japanese - sounds Chinese.
Ahhh Americans.
Medivel 2 is still the best
+dog bles ameriga yes
rome 1 is better walls are buggy in medieval
You mean the Medieval Kingdoms mod for Attilla? ;) basically Medieval 3
well, I own every total war game from rome 1 to rome 2, so these are how i rank them from best to worst
medieval 2- fucking awesome
Shogun 2- obvious
Napoleon- improved on what empire did right and mostly fixed what it didn't
Empire- had it's moments, but really buggy and kind of dull
Rome 1- I know this is wrong, but I just don't really dig this game, It just hasn't aged well like Medieval 2
Rome 2- obvious reasons
That game is 100% shit. Don't believe me, I can make multiple paragraph's on why its shit.
I started with Medieval 2 , played some Rome, Napoleon is really AWESOME and Empire, but Rome 2...I'm thinking about buying Shogun 2 instead, I have limited budget, so, does any1 still play Shogun 2 ?
If you act quick, Shogun 2 is in this weeks Humble Bundle for $15 with a load of other games ends in 3 hours
I must first collect the money, I don't live in a rich country and by summer I will have some budget, now I couldn't afford even that.
I couldn't find any players in this game , only 3-4 room in host .. but can find some one make room chat so may be ask them to play ..hah
I've met this guy in the rome 2 angry video review, initially I thought the review was too good to be true and he was going to sudenly rage, because he looks so happy comparing to the rome 2 total war video.
Medieval 3 skrubs.
Shogun 2 or Rome 2?? Keep in mind that Im new to the strategy genre
shogun get all the dlcs
Both are superb, I would go for Shogun 2 with all expansions ;)
Although, it really depends on which time period you prefer!
I own Rome: Total War and suggest you go for that. There are a lot of different combat tactics such as a Shield Wall and Phalanx, and you will never feel more badass than when you first order your Roman Cohorts with full units on max settings to form a Testuedo. I am currently addicted however so be warned. I currently own almost the whole franchise. At worse it is always something you can fall back on if you don't like it, as it is a unique time period.
I've played Total War for god knows how long, and while I'm not saying Rome is bad, Shogun 2 is just.. so amazing. My favorite, in my opinion. I could list tons of reasons but honestly its your choice. The vote in the comments here seems to be 3 Shogun, 2 Rome, so again it's your choice. Both are great though, I don't think you'll be disappointed either way :)
Star wars total war
Yes. Hell yes.
Joshua Phillips no hell no
Fuck no
:c....just saying u.u
lol, ok, my bad guys sorry!! XD
I really expected Rome II to be not much more than an "expanded Shogun II" with more diverse factions, a larger map and different artwork of course. The tech-, expirience- and family trees were perfect and led to unique agents and interesting campaigns.
just bought shogun 2
you wont be disappointing, its challenging and plays and (in my opinion) looks even better than Rome 2. great game.
my favorite is still medieval 2 total war
Joe ... a Katana ... . You've to turn it around, when it's beside your hips. (The sharp end of the blade on the top)
Katanas are shitty weapons, wouldn't matter anyways.
upsguydownthestreet It is never the weapon that is shitty, but the one who wields it.
upsguydownthestreet
Except most of European steel armour could be easily pierced by a katana, where a European steel/iron longsword couldn't.
Guys: Really?! Again?! I've already been in such a discussion and lastet for months! katana bend more easily, while longsword was a bit slower. Knights were better on horseback, samurai better on foot ... and so on! We'll never know who's better, because they're all dead by now. Looks like they've all lost. Each smither has his own techniques, so there are different results. ( And even the persons would have been skilled differently)
So before you keep discussing:
Just enjoy the game!
DerDingsreturnsnochmal You need to keep in mind that there are few things that most japan-lover morons will never accept, no matter what. Those things are called “history” and “technological progress”. Japan like every other non-European culture(besides unstable China Empire and its sad story of fall) was always way back in term of technological progress in relationship to Europe. So when We, by “We” I mean people from Europe - I’m Polish, had Medival Knights in battlefield, they were only importing swords from China and tried their own first modification on its designs. And when Japanese military finally developed their finest katanas European military was about using projectile weaponry. This also apply to every other aspect of military. For example: techniques of food conserving, healing wounded soldiers, support from some sort of artillery etc. So no matter what, If you take some European army and some Japanese army from the same historical period, Europeans will always win. And this is the only thing which matter in real world.
What movie is that scene at the beginning from?
@Oversama the title of the movie is "Ran" by Akira Kurosawa.
Why is he mimicking Chinese accent in Japanese game? Is he that ignorant?
Kaz Zero I would have find it funny if he has mimicked Japanese accent. This is cultural ignorance I guess.
Chinese accent? lol. Not even close. The closest thing he's sounding like is just gibberish. I understand full well Chinese and Japanese and the 'stereotypical' sounds foreigners make with Asian languages.
its all the same wtf weeaboo
They listened to you with Warhammer Total war! :)
Watching this after the rome 2 one. Its a shame your vision of a better game never came instead we got the disaster of Rome 2.
i remember when this vid was stuck at around 900k, finally reached 1m
The thing about rome 2 is the fact that if it was not for AI problems everyone would rate it 10/10
I would...I bought that buggy mess:(
There's still that fucking horrendous UI to deal with and Diplomacy that's worse than any other in the series
ethan philpot And no family tree, generals just come into existence from...somewhere?
It was missing way too many of the features that the first rome total war had and the unit cards were messed up I'd probably give it a 3/10 with the good ai
I agree with everyone one this comment thread. I also find it so dissapointing :( I personally hate the stupid UI and the campaign AI most...its just sickeningly boring to steamroll through, basically, the entire ancient world with almost zero resistance..and I don't even want to start about the useless generals and trivialized family/general system
its nice to see him not ANGRY anymore hahahhah...dats why its not called the angry review but jsut review hehehhe
Its funny how a "stronger computer" then would just be a potato now
The funny thing is it has a glitch where it will force more advanced pcs to use lower settings.
didn't even know that, since my pc is garbage, and I need to play in the lowest settings to even get 50 fps.
@@glucky2119 I think it’s caused by the game doing a scan of your system and not understanding what the graphics card is and defaulting to medium or that it does a calculation and loops when it reaches a certain number.
What movie was that at the beginning? At first I thought it was the Battle of Nagashino where the Takeda Cavalry was wiped out by Oda muskets, but then it looked like the main character was Masamune Date. I is teh confus.
Would anyone else recommend the Blood Pack DLC?
nah it sucks
TheUnholyHandGrenade if you're dedicated to the game and want to support the developers, sure. I got it.
Who is here because the game is free right now
Sounded like a bong in the beginning =p Then I realized it was just a bunch of horses.
This game has aged so well. Its like a fine wine
Hey guys I have a question, I like games like Rome Total War (the first one) and Civilization 5. So my question is.... would I like this game? Just based on other games I like?
You will *love* Total War: Shogun 2. I was never a total war fan myself, but Shogun 2 completely changed that. Worth every penny like Angry Joe says.
It is the best Total War game untill now. It is awesome. I spend 700 hours in that game and I don't regret it a single bit.
Honestly get Rome 1 and it's expansion Barbarian Invasion, MEdieval 2 and Kingdoms, and Shogun 2 and the dlc if you want. These games are probably the best in the series.
Merland5 Napoleon is actually also a very well made, rounded game - it takes what was good about Empire but without all the issues - it's a really fun, strategic period of history to play in and you find yourself using actual Napoleonic tactics to achieve your goals - True it isn't a groundbreaking game like the original Rome but it's very polished and I would highly recommend it.
I did
shouldnt this be titled happy review?
Still the best.
On Shogun 2 I generally play with one large army and my settlement defended with a garrison for my buildings to save money, then use ninjas and geisha to halt armies, on rise of the samurai this is easier due to junatsuchi being able to ask for the allegiance of enemy provinces if they support your clan, this can be done by simply having your junatsuchi in their territory.
Bought it today on steam sale.
Best RTS imo, no OP units
still the best total war game. puts rome 2, atilla and warhammer to shame
Yep!
rome ii is actualy good if it has mods like loads of mods
11:15 How about some dragons, elves, magic, and chaos?!?!?!
Like just for that intro