We upgrade DVDs to 4k if available. It has to be a really favorite movie to move to 4k from Blu-ray. If available on 4k all new are purchased that way.
I only upgrade to 4k if they come with director or unrated cuts. I can't stand when they stick with theatrical cuts and refuse to even do seamless branching with a menu option, just because seeing that option actually makes film purists upset. I don't go to movie theaters, so I don't care about watching what version was shown to me then and there for some sort of memory connection of having gone to see it. I want what version the director wanted to make but weren't allowed to show.
I tend to do this as well. A while back I needed to downsize so donated few hundred DVDs and now find there's certain films not seen in a while and they come out on 4k, but they have to be all time classics to spend the kind of price charged. I've a pretty big bluray collection and other than maybe stuff I'd consider top 10, I don't do a 4k rebuy. Mainly cos I most like upgraded from DVD to blu! I have two 55inch TVs now - one Sony LED and one newest Samsung OLED, and honestly I wonder at that size do I even get the benefit of 4K. Hard to know. What I will say is the sound is unbelievable on 4K through my old 5.1 set up with really big old Jami speakers and a receiver. I've noticed on the Samsung OLED that Disney plus looks dark as hell so that's been annoying, but the discs shine. Tho funnily I've been watching some old DVDs on the Sony (presumably upscaled by the PS5) and they look great. Like old movies from the 40s etc. So who knows. A lot of it is genuinely FOMO, but if it makes you happy then worse things you could spend money on.
It is also important to remember that a film being on a 4K disc does NOT *automatically* ALWAYS make it super sharp or even necessarily better-looking than the Blu Ray. It also depends on the quality of the TRANSFER that was put onto the 4K disc. A notorious example is Terminator 2 4K. The transfer on the 4K disc is so DNR'd and smoothed over that many people feel that the older Blu Ray actually looks SHARPER and better because the quality of the 4K transfer is so poor! That's why things like reviews and screenshots and such of 4K discs can be helpful in determining if that particular 4K disc is likely to look significantly better than the Blu Ray or not before making the purchase.
That’s literally like the only example of a Blu looking better than the 4K. And screenshots are actually a very poor comparison btwn Blu and 4k because the biggest upgrade is the effect HDR has on dynamic range and color grade - both of which we absolutely cannot see on our little SDR iPhones and hyper compressed SDR UA-cam videos.
@@steved5880 Yeah of course you won't be able to see HDR properly from screenshots, but it gives SOME sort of an idea about the product before purchasing
Because 4K tends to be higher prices, I do extra research before purchasing them. The movie has to be REALLY GOOD, otherwise a Blu-Ray is fine. Funny enough, there are some 4K disks where I actually prefer the color grading on the Blu Ray instead! 😅
One way I've found that can help with the price is looking for the 4k disc on eBay. Some sellers will have the disc by itself (no case, no digital code) for much cheaper than buying it new. I've done that for some of my 1080p Blu-rays that I like but don't want to purchase all over again.
@@pirtl_turtl That is what I do if I have, say, a steelbook that includes Blu ray but NO 4K. That is a cheaper way to get JUST the 4K disc, that I can swap into the steelbook without having to buy the whole 4K set.
Akira Blu-Ray is an example. I wouldn't say it's bad as some 4K's that are completely butchered but it's still enough where smoothing and new blue hue making the 4K look worse.
Depends what set up you have , I have 4k projector with a 120" screen and 4k blows bluray out of the water in all aspects, colors, details, black levels ect...
HD blu-rays don't have HDR because it wasn't a protocol when blu-ray was being developed. Consumer HD was also SDR because TV contrast ranges were 8bit, and the video is encoded in a less efficient video codec (that takes up more of the disc compared to UHD). There were movie studios editing 2K digital intermediates in HDR spaces (as digital cameras can record RAW video in spaces that exceed current consumer HDR). This can be important for editing contrast ranges in the video. 4K UHD discs also needed a new video codec because the master file size is much larger, so there has to be more file compression for a UHD blu-ray. 4K is 4x the resolution, but a tonal range that changes from 8bit 256 shades of tone to 10bit 1024 shades (not just providing brighter highlights or darker shadows, but smoother gradients). Perceptual detail of video isn't just resolution: it's resolution, contrast range, and lens focus (and possible other optical characteristics). You will see new HD blu-rays have Dolby Atmos tracks (which weren't originally part of HD video protocols), as many new movies are mastered in it and older blu-ray players will see the track as True-HD 7.1. I had a pretty nice Panasonic plasma TV and 7.1 HDMI speaker system when I was collecting blu-rays. To go to 4K, I invested in a nice OLED TV, upgraded my amplifier to decode Atmos/ DTS:X/Auro-3D, and got 4 height speakers. I believe HDR and 3D audio is the real advantage of 4K. I go to the cinema less often as I prefer my home audio, and I've calibrated Dolby Vision and HDR10 with my OLED.
Most people in the UK have TVs that are 40-55". We just don't have living rooms that csn accommodate 70-80" and a too big TV makes a room oppressive. We didn't have the big screen culture until the 2000s like Americans have always had.
I don't yet have a 4K player, but I remember the days of Bluray + DVD combo packs, and how useful they were for future proofing my collection before I had a bluray player. So these days, if it's a movie that I know I will *one day* be glad to have in HDR 4K, I go for those combos. Anything by Chris Nolan, or George Miller will be worth it in the long run. And as per Jeff's advice, I also keep a lookout for 4K restorations of classics and B+W films, as they really benefit from the HDR.
I actually prefer 1080p Blu-Ray because I like the perfect HD picture, the best sound (whether it is Dolby Atmos, Dolby Digital, and/or DTS), and I watch it in my basement home theater. Also, I have a LG CineBeam projector because TV sets are made from breakable glass.
I am much more selective in what I upgrade from Blu Ray to 4K. The cost, coupled with triple or even quadruple buying now (if you include VHS) on some films has me burned out. I really only will be upgrading a select amount of films. Having over 19K films now, my 4K collection is still relatively small at less than 300 of this 19K movies. Blu Ray is in it’s sweet spot for me. Cost, still looks great on all my TVs. And only do I really care about 4K for my projector theatre room. The really special movies to me are the ones I want 4K for. I simply only need it for certain films.
Yeah me too. I feel like a lot of 4K collectors only started in 2006 with Blu-ray. I've been at this since the 90s. 4ks are way too expensive. £6-7 Vs £20-25. That's a tonne more, especially for new Blu-rays that use the same Master as the 4K. Old 2006 era blu-rays different story.
@@theshaneakers a LONG time collecting, buying many movies on sale or in bulk. And I own a pretty good sized home and my kids are now grown and gone. So just me. I just never sold films as I bought them. Eventually, I hope my collection will be an archive or something when I am gone or no longer collect, ect.. And it isn't only one title or a few titles of course. There are probably well over 100K films on DVD, Blu Ray and 4K by now. So plenty of different titles. Also, I have well over 2K video game titles for Sony Systems. Many of which are unopened. As well as an unopened boxed system of every Sony system released. Besides the original PlayStation. The video games are more for retirement investment, as I don't have complete collections for that. Mainly just a lot of rare titles. 🤷 I even still have my laserdisc collection of about 250-300 titles. And two working laserdisc players. I was always fascinated by physical media. And became even more so when I started releasing my own music and film projects. 🤷
@@bradavon you nailed it. I am with you. I have been collecting since DVD very first dropped in North America. I even have some of the very old long DVD boxes you never see anymore. That were paper with Styrofoam in the bottom of the box. With CD cases inside with the movies. Have like three titles like that. Only the very early DVD films had those weird cases. 😳
For me, 1080p Blu-ray, especially if you find a good used source, is the perfect mix of affordability and truly excellent picture and sound. I can get 4-5 standard Blu-rays for the price of one new 4k, and for the most part they still look and sound phenomenal on home theater equipment, with some even having Dolby Atmos, etc. I buy some iconic or legendary movies on 4k, but for me Blu-ray will likely satisfy my home theater needs forever.
@@JeffRauseoif it's a new Blu-ray release, the Blu-ray would get the same 4K master too though. Sure not as good but the most of the improvement is in the mastering.
I feel the same way CT. I'm totally happy with bluray quality and I own 4ks aswell that I feel are worth it to me. blurays are still a great picture quality. Remastered ones are even better too
Since I had my 65-inch TV, I can tell a major difference with the two. Especially since I set the wide scree aspect ratio to an even wider setting to where it fills up most the screen. That was the key for me. It's beautiful.
Jeff, this was extremely well done. Kept to basics, made it easy for everyone to understand, and helped people decide based on their choice not what people think they should do. Again, excellent video Jeff!
Thanks for the overview, Jeff. I purchased a 4K player a while back but only had a 55" Sony screen. I didn't notice a lot of visual difference between the 4K and 1080p discs. What I did notice was that the sound came through with much more force over my modest Atmos surround system. I thought it was a 4K feature but, as you point out, I guess it has more to do with file size. I guess there are 1080p discs out there, too, with robust sound? Unfortunately, I had to move and don't have my systems anymore to conduct further tests. Doh!
I tried an experiment yesterday with dvd, Blu ray and 4K of the same film on my 4K tv through Xbox Series X. The dvd was ok, the Blu ray a massive improvement, but the 4K didn’t end up looking massively better than the Blu ray. As my TV is 42’’ this seemed to confirm that to get a serious improvement in picture quality (akin to what I saw was the difference between dvd and Blu ray) a much larger tv must be needed. For my set up 4K was not a significant leap enough to justify the extra cost. After that just for a laugh I played the same film side by side on the 4K tv with the UHD disc and the older DVD through my 28’’ widescreen CRT I use for retro games. Obviously the 4K was the better picture but it was extremely surprising to see just how good the image of the DVD was on the CRT side by side. Clearly DVDs, whilst they don’t look brilliant blown up and upscaled on a modern screen, just like many retro consoles with the correct cables, they can look fantastic on a screen they were originally designed for.
Not just data size but data rate in streaming. HDR colour can be great - but TV panels can also vary - some older ones are 8Bit or 8bit +2 With newer panels 10bit colour ie. they better able to display that 'true' colour range & colour volume. But I think your point about viewing distance is often overlooked. For my 55in UHD 4K OLED TV I sit just 6 to 7 feet away. UK home hav (in general) smaller TVs but in smaller living rooms
I've found 4k/UHD discs to be a very mixed bag. For the longest time I would buy the UHD + Blu-ray packs but had no way to add the UHD versions to my Plex collection for technical reasons. Then once I finally had a way to add the 4k movies I went on a spree re-ripping everything I had to upgrade my viewing experience and was very underwhelmed. Newer films with 4k and HDR content could be night and day on my OLED TV and really blow me away, but for every amazing experience there were two, usually older, films that I couldn't tell apart from their 1080p siblings at all, save for the fact that they were chewing up much more storage space. For that reason I sometimes actually preferred the 1080p versions of some films: same look, less space. I'm no expert, but my guess is that some older content may not have enough detail in the master to make a very effective transition to UHD standards. You can, of course, take any movie and blow it up to a higher resolution even if it's exactly the same amount of detail as a lower resolution video, and for some UHD discs I think it may not have been any fancier than that.
Here's the dirty Little secret nobody's talking about.... HDR can be applied to 1080p Blu-ray discs but they don't do it... why not? A file like that upscaled on a 4K TV would come very close to Blu-ray 4K uhd.
It's not as clearcut as this. Regular Blu-ray players can't do HDR. I'm not sure they can read triple layer discs either and that might be required because of the extra space the color information might require. So while techically doable it would just create too much confusion imo.
@@Reissuleipa It’s not doable because HDR was not a consumer video standard when blu-ray was introduced. Older players can read triple layer discs (there are some HD blu-ray 75GB: for long movies with special features). The main reason new HD blu-rays can’t have HDR is that it’s a newer standard (encoded in a different format), that non UHD players can’t decode.
0:16 I was super confused seeing the Dune Part Two covers and you saying “but it was years and years ago” 😂 great video though as always Jeff!! Always learning something new from you!
Your earlier video on this subject is the first video of yours I ever watched. This is a great update! Thank you for explaining things so well! Very useful.
Dont forget Dynamic range for brightness, outside of the larger range of colours the increased range of brightness makes a huge difference to movies when they are graded with the high range. good refresher video.
When you put 4k screens and bluray screens together then yeah, you can notice a difference. But can anyone honestly say they've ever put a bluray on and thought this looks terrible because to me they look great. Comparison screens can be misleading and your right, lots of different factors come into it
Hey Jeff, good refresher thanks ! I recall way back when you discussed if 8K would obsolete 4K and if it would ever be a worthwhile investment. How much more do we movie fans want to spend for a “better” viewing experience ? When is good, good enough ? I’m standing pat at 4K, this is my “good enough”.
It's interesting in all of these comparison videos of HDR vs SDR that it's all uploaded on youtube videos that are SDR by nature. So technically, both left and right images are always SDR... Also interesting to point out is that in these videos "HDR" side of image always looks better.. but it just proves that you can always improve your SDR image to look much better and identical to HDR when you show it in comparison videos. Of course.. when the HDR content is shown on HDR supporting screen that's where you can see the difference when you're comparing it. But i just want to point out that when people are looking at comparison images... they don't actually see anything since there is no HDR there
Recently start collecting 4K horror movies. This was very informative and gave me a better understanding of it. Also, random Samuel Beckett bridge in Dublin jumpscare had me laughing hard😂😂 I can see it out my apartment window
The term high dynamic range means there is a large amount of variation in light levels within a scene or an image. The dynamic range refers to the range of luminosity between the brightest area and the darkest area of that scene or image. Expanded color space is part of that, but we have to remember that HDR improves the visible space between shadows and intense bright objects, giving far more detail and depth to an image. Look at Game of Thrones as a perfect example. HDR grading and the increased bit rate made episodes actually watchable, whereas compressed or other formats like Bluray did not. Remember first generation 4K panels didn't have HDR capabilities at all, which I'm sure glad they added that function sooner than later.
Even though I buy 4K movies for certain blockbusters, I still prefer 1080p blu rays for lot of older movies since there’s not much of a difference in quality for smaller TVs. It’s all about the home theater setup and the kind of movies that were mastered on the format.
I remember when I was editing my independent film that was shot in SD, I always noticed back then that you had to add a good amount of contrast and color because it was a very faintly established image due to that bit rate barely existing.And so I essentially do the same with HD adding just a little more contrast and color to the image, I wonder if that can come close with it just somewhat resembling the new 4K HDR. It feels like it does.
HDR also allows for improved brightness and contrast, with brighter whites and darker blacks. But this is quite dependant on your display quality. OLEDs will have the best contrast and color reproduction, but they aren't necessarily the brightest.
One point that I think needs to be touched on is the type of displays people are watching 4k content on. A lot of people have edge lit 4k panels which don’t do much justice to HDR content. I feel at a minimum a full array local dimming display is needed to get the benefit of 4k HDR content.
the only thing id argue, as far as distance compared to 4k/1080, is during gaming. I undersrand that isnt the main focus of the channel, but 4k on a PC moniter compared to standard HD can be a huge deal depending on what you're playing. Most notibly with PvP games. Its the difference between seeing a bush and seeing the person hiding inside it.
Thanks Jeff for the info. I've recently gone down the rabbit hole of using RTX HDR upscaling on my HTPC (Home Theater PC) for below 4K content and the results have been amazing. Nvidia is utilizing the tech in their new Geforce RTX graphics cards to AI enhance video (and games) on the fly. On casually viewing comparing native 4K HDR with RTX HDR upscaled 1080p content on a 65 inch HDR TV is nearly unnoticeable. However, native 4K HDR is better as the color grading is (theoretically) being performed by a human with artistic(?) intent. It works with streaming, digital downloads, and (with all those PC hoop jumping prerequisites) blu-ray/DVD. Linus Tech Tips did a dive video into this a few months ago when the Nvidia driver updates dropped.
Another thing to consider is that streaming services have mostly started requiring their highest priced tier I order to get their 4K, Dolby Vision, or Dolby Atmos content. So is someone doesn’t want to pay the most for a streaming service then 4K content probably isn’t for them (for streaming, at least).
Excellent video Jeff. Thank you for making it simple to understand for the rest of us. I see in the comments alot of people are on the fence . Before I broke down and bought my first 4k tv, I started buying the Blu-ray/4 k combo packs knowing I was buying the 4k tv later but still got the Blu rays for now....yes it cost me more upfront, but when the TV arrived I had about 10 4ks already in these combo packs. Unrelated question....Would it be within your niche to do a video of why the movies are bombing this year vs last? Are we just broke? I thought Planet of the Apes and Mad Max would be killing it and they are like warm at best...I loved them both. Your thoughts please.
I have a 42'' 4K Toshiba tv, which I mainly bought for my Xbox Series X. I still use a lot of DVDs (which upscale surprisingly well) and Blu Rays are reserved for my favourites now that prices are so low that double dipping is pretty cheap). I only own 2 4K discs (one was accidentally included with a Blu day the other was a bargain find of Alien sealed in a charity shop for £5. It just so happens to be my favourite film and one of the few I would triple dip on!) That said, from a gaming point of view the colour difference between 1080p and 4K is impressive. Considering that the furthest I can actually sit from the screen is maybe 7 to 8 feet it seems that there isn't much point getting a much bigger screen, as it seems 4K wouldn't be a massive improvement over 1080p on anything g less than a 55'' screen.
I've only got a 43" LED TV and sit around 3ft away so picture isn't actually primary for me. Larger sets of 55" and greater especially ULED are not in my likely or foreseeable future. So for me it's more about Atmos. I've got a soundbar and surrounds which does a job for now and which I'm more likely to upgrade to separates before a TV. I've bought a bunch of 1080p Blu-rays recently that have Atmos, some second hand. I'm mostly upgrading DVD to 4K. The one annoyance is that Atmos is only available on 4K in many circumstances so that means some Blu-ray I may need to upgrade.
Going back to data sizing on 4K discs...it is a concern when you have a much earlier 4K player. I purchased mine in 2018 and when the file sizes reach about 66 - 100 GB, then the disc would skip and cause frame glitching. It's changed now with updated players but in case anyone else has that issue with their earlier players, that's the cause of that.
For me the 4K discs offer the best sound options i.e Atmos etc. If you don't have an Atmos or similiar setup you're not going to be that put out with blu ray, unless you're a purist, most ain't. I bought the Diamond version blu ray version of Gravity that had the Atmos sound over the 4k that didn't. Think they now have a 4k with Atmos, don't know as i am happy with the blu ray.
I feel the quality of your 4K TV also plays a big factor into if you can see a big difference with 4K content. I currently have a very cheap 50 inch Samsung 4K tv in my bedroom and hdr content is horrible due to not having enough nits to display hdr properly, so I really only notice a sharpness difference at this point. That’s why later this year I plan on upgrading to a 55 inch Oled TV.
I would recommend going 65" providing it fits comfortably in the room and you have the appropriate viewing angle and distance. I have a 55" Sony OLED which is a great TV and a great size for my room but I only got it because it's the maximum size that would fit in my room. 65" (and onwards) is more of an ideal cinematic size whereas 55" is more "good enough" if that makes sense. When it comes to 4K TVs, particularly higher end displays like OLED bigger is better.
I have a 8k TV. N I have watch alot of 4k movies on it n just recently started watching blue rays on my 8k tv n blue rays looks mind blowing on a 8k TV. My 4k player add hdr to all blue rays. 8k upscaling looks pretty impressive.
I tried the spiderman 4k against the bluray and i didnt see the drastic colour difference like in that image. 4ks are better but i feel sometimes its exaggerated. Its not the same or life changing as the leap from vhs to dvd to bluray.
Stupid question why are some new blu-ray say from a 4k scan and put on a 4k disc I've noticed that second sight and arrow video etc really look good on blu-ray
I was wondering because I have no clue I was getting ready to start trying to rip some 4K movies but was wondering if I do so can these be played on a regular standard definition TV that is not 4K what will it look like? Thanks for any info
So just to add my 2 cents. I have a 50in plasma with a 4k player that downscales it to 1080p. Even though I don't get HDR the remastered 4k look great of older movies. I can also notice a difference in newer movies to. I compared Sonic 2 with the blu-ray vs the 4k and the 4k was better but not by a a lot being as its a newer movie. The color looked better on Sonic and other detail to. Also Just got in my Rango 4k steel book and watched it. Looked great. Even though Rango CGI was always amazing for its time and still is now.
Dang, was really hoping you would give us some side by side comparisons like the thumbnail implies. What do I have to do to get that video to happen??? 😁
I bought a 4K disc a while back, played it on my old TV, and the picture was way too dark. Now, with a 4K TV, the difference is insane-everything’s crystal clear! What movies do you all recommend to really show off the quality?
I’m slowly replacing all my DVDs to Blu Ray. If the movie is really good, I’ll upgrade to 4K. However not all 4K upgrades are great. The Arrow Weird Science has an awful transfer. The Arrow Blu ray was actually better.
Just asking because I see for your title image (I don’t know if I used the right word for it) was from your 4k review of the Sam raimi Spider-Man trilogy but are you looking forward to the Spider-Man 4 fan film by high mountain studios? Personally I think would’ve been cool to see the story more complete especially considering Spider-Man 3 left on a cliffhanger.
4K really isn't needed for most people based on their viewing distance and size of TV. It's really the HDR and black levels with Oled and similar tech, etc. that are pretty much exclusive to 4K tvs that really matter. Other than say if you have an old plasma tv that had better blacks.
Maybe it's blissful ignorance but I enjoy both formats' equally. Not sure the HDR is a game changer. My big reason for buying the 4k is maybe the sharpness but mostly the better soundtracks.
not sure if youve answered this somewhere, but what are your TV settings in terms of motion smoothing as it is driving me insane constantly changing the de-judder from 0-3 and not sure which is best or most similar to how it would look in the cinema. Also do you use filmmaker mode etc? thanks!
@@JeffRauseo thanks for replying, so do you have completely no motion smoothing at all as there’s a lot of judder on my Samsung 65inch when filmmaker mode is on and has zero motion smoothing at all.
Can you do a comparison of the True Lies 4K and Blu-ray that's in the same box please. The Blu-ray was from a different 2K master and apparently isn't DNRed anywhere near as much.
Do you to do anything to different, like a setting or anything, for HDR on a 4K disc or does it automatically play when the disc is played? I have heard of discs with both HDR and Dolby Vision so how does the player know which to play?
Internet speed is one aspect for streaming but the bigger issue is most people stream using wireless and the quality of their wireless access solution/config lets them down.
What’s next for home media quality? Is 4k going to be the last stop or will we eventually get 8k? Can the color range get wider than it is now? Are our eyes even capable of seeing the difference of either on the screens we use? I’ve a decent collection but it seems like it was yesterday I bought my first Blu-ray, now I’m buying 4k uhd. What’s next lol
The only time audio factors into the difference between 4K and 1080p is discs from Disney and Sony. Disney and Sony reserve Dolby Atmos for 4K discs only. Why I don't know...
Why do we say 1080p for hd which is the vertical pixels but when referung to UHD we use the horizontal pixels..... shouldn't we compare the vertical pixels....? So 4k is only twice the amount?? Correct me if im wrong. Im confused 😂
4K disc for home video is very likely the LAST home video format. As sad as that is, it is where we are. The market is just too small and split to make and sense financially for studios to give us consumer 8K discs. My understanding is there is already 8K and even potentially 16K discs. But for archival type stuff for studios and companies. Things we will never see as consumers unfortunately. It is the same as 8K and 16K TVs. We already see them available. In fact 8K TVs have been for some time. But I don't see any need for them, literally for a decade or more right now. For multiple reasons. As someone who works in film, there is already available 6K, 8K and I hear even 16K cameras. Costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. But again, these are for things like huge Hollywood companies. Plus, on small TVs, we won't even be able to see things like 8K or 16k. The pixels at that point are too small unless you have a massive screen. I have a true 4K projector. And besides the HDR support, I wasn't that impressed by the difference between my 1080p projector and 4K. Even on like an 8-10 foot screen. It just doesn't make sense at home for these crazy resolutions. 🤷
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4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!!!
THIS is the kind of information the industry should have been doing since, well, the beginning of 4K. Thank you for your service, Jeff.
I agree! It was a big time failure on the consumer education side
We upgrade DVDs to 4k if available. It has to be a really favorite movie to move to 4k from Blu-ray. If available on 4k all new are purchased that way.
My thoughts exactly!
I only upgrade to 4k if they come with director or unrated cuts. I can't stand when they stick with theatrical cuts and refuse to even do seamless branching with a menu option, just because seeing that option actually makes film purists upset. I don't go to movie theaters, so I don't care about watching what version was shown to me then and there for some sort of memory connection of having gone to see it. I want what version the director wanted to make but weren't allowed to show.
That can be a waste of money. 4K isn't always much of an upgrade over Blu-ray but is always 2-3 times more expensive.
@@bradavon. He literally prefaced the situations where he would upgrade, and it's limited and not unreasonable.
I tend to do this as well. A while back I needed to downsize so donated few hundred DVDs and now find there's certain films not seen in a while and they come out on 4k, but they have to be all time classics to spend the kind of price charged. I've a pretty big bluray collection and other than maybe stuff I'd consider top 10, I don't do a 4k rebuy. Mainly cos I most like upgraded from DVD to blu! I have two 55inch TVs now - one Sony LED and one newest Samsung OLED, and honestly I wonder at that size do I even get the benefit of 4K. Hard to know. What I will say is the sound is unbelievable on 4K through my old 5.1 set up with really big old Jami speakers and a receiver. I've noticed on the Samsung OLED that Disney plus looks dark as hell so that's been annoying, but the discs shine. Tho funnily I've been watching some old DVDs on the Sony (presumably upscaled by the PS5) and they look great. Like old movies from the 40s etc. So who knows. A lot of it is genuinely FOMO, but if it makes you happy then worse things you could spend money on.
The sharpness is definitely the most talked about aspect of 4k, but the color is just as important.
Colors just look better in HDR and Dolby Vision.
It is also important to remember that a film being on a 4K disc does NOT *automatically* ALWAYS make it super sharp or even necessarily better-looking than the Blu Ray. It also depends on the quality of the TRANSFER that was put onto the 4K disc. A notorious example is Terminator 2 4K. The transfer on the 4K disc is so DNR'd and smoothed over that many people feel that the older Blu Ray actually looks SHARPER and better because the quality of the 4K transfer is so poor! That's why things like reviews and screenshots and such of 4K discs can be helpful in determining if that particular 4K disc is likely to look significantly better than the Blu Ray or not before making the purchase.
That’s literally like the only example of a Blu looking better than the 4K. And screenshots are actually a very poor comparison btwn Blu and 4k because the biggest upgrade is the effect HDR has on dynamic range and color grade - both of which we absolutely cannot see on our little SDR iPhones and hyper compressed SDR UA-cam videos.
@@steved5880 Yeah of course you won't be able to see HDR properly from screenshots, but it gives SOME sort of an idea about the product before purchasing
Because 4K tends to be higher prices, I do extra research before purchasing them. The movie has to be REALLY GOOD, otherwise a Blu-Ray is fine. Funny enough, there are some 4K disks where I actually prefer the color grading on the Blu Ray instead! 😅
One way I've found that can help with the price is looking for the 4k disc on eBay. Some sellers will have the disc by itself (no case, no digital code) for much cheaper than buying it new. I've done that for some of my 1080p Blu-rays that I like but don't want to purchase all over again.
@@pirtl_turtl That is what I do if I have, say, a steelbook that includes Blu ray but NO 4K. That is a cheaper way to get JUST the 4K disc, that I can swap into the steelbook without having to buy the whole 4K set.
Akira Blu-Ray is an example. I wouldn't say it's bad as some 4K's that are completely butchered but it's still enough where smoothing and new blue hue making the 4K look worse.
Depends what set up you have , I have 4k projector with a 120" screen and 4k blows bluray out of the water in all aspects, colors, details, black levels ect...
HD blu-rays don't have HDR because it wasn't a protocol when blu-ray was being developed. Consumer HD was also SDR because TV contrast ranges were 8bit, and the video is encoded in a less efficient video codec (that takes up more of the disc compared to UHD). There were movie studios editing 2K digital intermediates in HDR spaces (as digital cameras can record RAW video in spaces that exceed current consumer HDR). This can be important for editing contrast ranges in the video. 4K UHD discs also needed a new video codec because the master file size is much larger, so there has to be more file compression for a UHD blu-ray. 4K is 4x the resolution, but a tonal range that changes from 8bit 256 shades of tone to 10bit 1024 shades (not just providing brighter highlights or darker shadows, but smoother gradients). Perceptual detail of video isn't just resolution: it's resolution, contrast range, and lens focus (and possible other optical characteristics).
You will see new HD blu-rays have Dolby Atmos tracks (which weren't originally part of HD video protocols), as many new movies are mastered in it and older blu-ray players will see the track as True-HD 7.1.
I had a pretty nice Panasonic plasma TV and 7.1 HDMI speaker system when I was collecting blu-rays. To go to 4K, I invested in a nice OLED TV, upgraded my amplifier to decode Atmos/ DTS:X/Auro-3D, and got 4 height speakers. I believe HDR and 3D audio is the real advantage of 4K. I go to the cinema less often as I prefer my home audio, and I've calibrated Dolby Vision and HDR10 with my OLED.
Thank you for writing this awesome post!
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Most people in the UK have TVs that are 40-55". We just don't have living rooms that csn accommodate 70-80" and a too big TV makes a room oppressive. We didn't have the big screen culture until the 2000s like Americans have always had.
The biggest TV i can fit is 43' and HD is just fine for me.
I don't yet have a 4K player, but I remember the days of Bluray + DVD combo packs, and how useful they were for future proofing my collection before I had a bluray player. So these days, if it's a movie that I know I will *one day* be glad to have in HDR 4K, I go for those combos. Anything by Chris Nolan, or George Miller will be worth it in the long run. And as per Jeff's advice, I also keep a lookout for 4K restorations of classics and B+W films, as they really benefit from the HDR.
I actually prefer 1080p Blu-Ray because I like the perfect HD picture, the best sound (whether it is Dolby Atmos, Dolby Digital, and/or DTS), and I watch it in my basement home theater. Also, I have a LG CineBeam projector because TV sets are made from breakable glass.
I am much more selective in what I upgrade from Blu Ray to 4K. The cost, coupled with triple or even quadruple buying now (if you include VHS) on some films has me burned out. I really only will be upgrading a select amount of films. Having over 19K films now, my 4K collection is still relatively small at less than 300 of this 19K movies. Blu Ray is in it’s sweet spot for me. Cost, still looks great on all my TVs. And only do I really care about 4K for my projector theatre room. The really special movies to me are the ones I want 4K for. I simply only need it for certain films.
How, HOW….do you have 19,000 physical copies of something?
Yeah me too. I feel like a lot of 4K collectors only started in 2006 with Blu-ray. I've been at this since the 90s. 4ks are way too expensive. £6-7 Vs £20-25. That's a tonne more, especially for new Blu-rays that use the same Master as the 4K. Old 2006 era blu-rays different story.
@@theshaneakers a LONG time collecting, buying many movies on sale or in bulk. And I own a pretty good sized home and my kids are now grown and gone. So just me. I just never sold films as I bought them. Eventually, I hope my collection will be an archive or something when I am gone or no longer collect, ect.. And it isn't only one title or a few titles of course. There are probably well over 100K films on DVD, Blu Ray and 4K by now. So plenty of different titles. Also, I have well over 2K video game titles for Sony Systems. Many of which are unopened. As well as an unopened boxed system of every Sony system released. Besides the original PlayStation. The video games are more for retirement investment, as I don't have complete collections for that. Mainly just a lot of rare titles. 🤷 I even still have my laserdisc collection of about 250-300 titles. And two working laserdisc players. I was always fascinated by physical media. And became even more so when I started releasing my own music and film projects. 🤷
@@bradavon you nailed it. I am with you. I have been collecting since DVD very first dropped in North America. I even have some of the very old long DVD boxes you never see anymore. That were paper with Styrofoam in the bottom of the box. With CD cases inside with the movies. Have like three titles like that. Only the very early DVD films had those weird cases. 😳
@@DangerousDevilOfficial dude, that is sick! I collect physical media as well, but my collection has *nothing* on yours. That is insane!
For me, 1080p Blu-ray, especially if you find a good used source, is the perfect mix of affordability and truly excellent picture and sound. I can get 4-5 standard Blu-rays for the price of one new 4k, and for the most part they still look and sound phenomenal on home theater equipment, with some even having Dolby Atmos, etc. I buy some iconic or legendary movies on 4k, but for me Blu-ray will likely satisfy my home theater needs forever.
With upscaling it’s not a bad idea. But when it’s a new 4K master of an older movie, that’s the biggest upgrade.
@@JeffRauseoif it's a new Blu-ray release, the Blu-ray would get the same 4K master too though. Sure not as good but the most of the improvement is in the mastering.
I feel the same way CT.
I'm totally happy with bluray quality and I own 4ks aswell that I feel are worth it to me. blurays are still a great picture quality. Remastered ones are even better too
Since I had my 65-inch TV, I can tell a major difference with the two. Especially since I set the wide scree aspect ratio to an even wider setting to where it fills up most the screen. That was the key for me. It's beautiful.
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Great video! I've been upgrading my collection the past few years to 4K UHD and it's definitely worth it
I can easily tell the difference on my 55 inch LG C1. Also a lot of blu ray transfers were poor and when reissued in 4K now have good transfers.
I already knew this Jeff, but thanks for the refresher course. 😁
Jeff, this was extremely well done. Kept to basics, made it easy for everyone to understand, and helped people decide based on their choice not what people think they should do. Again, excellent video Jeff!
Thanks for the overview, Jeff. I purchased a 4K player a while back but only had a 55" Sony screen. I didn't notice a lot of visual difference between the 4K and 1080p discs. What I did notice was that the sound came through with much more force over my modest Atmos surround system. I thought it was a 4K feature but, as you point out, I guess it has more to do with file size. I guess there are 1080p discs out there, too, with robust sound? Unfortunately, I had to move and don't have my systems anymore to conduct further tests. Doh!
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Thank you for explaining the difference, I just upgraded true lies from dvd and The dark Knight from blu ray.
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I tried an experiment yesterday with dvd, Blu ray and 4K of the same film on my 4K tv through Xbox Series X. The dvd was ok, the Blu ray a massive improvement, but the 4K didn’t end up looking massively better than the Blu ray. As my TV is 42’’ this seemed to confirm that to get a serious improvement in picture quality (akin to what I saw was the difference between dvd and Blu ray) a much larger tv must be needed. For my set up 4K was not a significant leap enough to justify the extra cost.
After that just for a laugh I played the same film side by side on the 4K tv with the UHD disc and the older DVD through my 28’’ widescreen CRT I use for retro games. Obviously the 4K was the better picture but it was extremely surprising to see just how good the image of the DVD was on the CRT side by side. Clearly DVDs, whilst they don’t look brilliant blown up and upscaled on a modern screen, just like many retro consoles with the correct cables, they can look fantastic on a screen they were originally designed for.
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Don't forget the Atmos mixes which can make a really big difference if you have the proper home theatre setup.
That’s not 4K specific though
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Not just data size but data rate in streaming. HDR colour can be great - but TV panels can also vary - some older ones are 8Bit or 8bit +2 With newer panels 10bit colour ie. they better able to display that 'true' colour range & colour volume. But I think your point about viewing distance is often overlooked. For my 55in UHD 4K OLED TV I sit just 6 to 7 feet away. UK home hav (in general) smaller TVs but in smaller living rooms
Thank you Jeff. 🙏🏻
I've found 4k/UHD discs to be a very mixed bag. For the longest time I would buy the UHD + Blu-ray packs but had no way to add the UHD versions to my Plex collection for technical reasons. Then once I finally had a way to add the 4k movies I went on a spree re-ripping everything I had to upgrade my viewing experience and was very underwhelmed. Newer films with 4k and HDR content could be night and day on my OLED TV and really blow me away, but for every amazing experience there were two, usually older, films that I couldn't tell apart from their 1080p siblings at all, save for the fact that they were chewing up much more storage space. For that reason I sometimes actually preferred the 1080p versions of some films: same look, less space. I'm no expert, but my guess is that some older content may not have enough detail in the master to make a very effective transition to UHD standards. You can, of course, take any movie and blow it up to a higher resolution even if it's exactly the same amount of detail as a lower resolution video, and for some UHD discs I think it may not have been any fancier than that.
Here's the dirty Little secret nobody's talking about.... HDR can be applied to 1080p Blu-ray discs but they don't do it... why not? A file like that upscaled on a 4K TV would come very close to Blu-ray 4K uhd.
It's not as clearcut as this. Regular Blu-ray players can't do HDR. I'm not sure they can read triple layer discs either and that might be required because of the extra space the color information might require. So while techically doable it would just create too much confusion imo.
@@Reissuleipa It’s not doable because HDR was not a consumer video standard when blu-ray was introduced. Older players can read triple layer discs (there are some HD blu-ray 75GB: for long movies with special features). The main reason new HD blu-rays can’t have HDR is that it’s a newer standard (encoded in a different format), that non UHD players can’t decode.
No way, its more than just HDR. I have same movies on both fomat, color palette, resolution ect.... totally different
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0:16 I was super confused seeing the Dune Part Two covers and you saying “but it was years and years ago” 😂 great video though as always Jeff!! Always learning something new from you!
Your earlier video on this subject is the first video of yours I ever watched. This is a great update! Thank you for explaining things so well! Very useful.
Dont forget Dynamic range for brightness, outside of the larger range of colours the increased range of brightness makes a huge difference to movies when they are graded with the high range. good refresher video.
When you put 4k screens and bluray screens together then yeah, you can notice a difference.
But can anyone honestly say they've ever put a bluray on and thought this looks terrible because to me they look great.
Comparison screens can be misleading and your right, lots of different factors come into it
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Hey Jeff, good refresher thanks !
I recall way back when you discussed if 8K would obsolete 4K and if it would ever be a worthwhile investment. How much more do we movie fans want to spend for a “better” viewing experience ? When is good, good enough ? I’m standing pat at 4K, this is my “good enough”.
4K is good enough. 8K is a gimmick unless you’ve got a 300” screen, and even then, 99.9% of your content would be upscaled
Well I paid over 7 grand for a 4k oled and a full Dolby sound system. That's why I get the uhd blurays to look good on my G3 77
The best video for just pure information about the formats that I've seen.
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It's interesting in all of these comparison videos of HDR vs SDR that it's all uploaded on youtube videos that are SDR by nature. So technically, both left and right images are always SDR...
Also interesting to point out is that in these videos "HDR" side of image always looks better.. but it just proves that you can always improve your SDR image to look much better and identical to HDR when you show it in comparison videos. Of course.. when the HDR content is shown on HDR supporting screen that's where you can see the difference when you're comparing it. But i just want to point out that when people are looking at comparison images... they don't actually see anything since there is no HDR there
This is probably your best video. Not my favorite as a fan but very important. I hope this blows up
Recently start collecting 4K horror movies. This was very informative and gave me a better understanding of it. Also, random Samuel Beckett bridge in Dublin jumpscare had me laughing hard😂😂 I can see it out my apartment window
The term high dynamic range means there is a large amount of variation in light levels within a scene or an image. The dynamic range refers to the range of luminosity between the brightest area and the darkest area of that scene or image.
Expanded color space is part of that, but we have to remember that HDR improves the visible space between shadows and intense bright objects, giving far more detail and depth to an image. Look at Game of Thrones as a perfect example. HDR grading and the increased bit rate made episodes actually watchable, whereas compressed or other formats like Bluray did not.
Remember first generation 4K panels didn't have HDR capabilities at all, which I'm sure glad they added that function sooner than later.
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Even though I buy 4K movies for certain blockbusters, I still prefer 1080p blu rays for lot of older movies since there’s not much of a difference in quality for smaller TVs. It’s all about the home theater setup and the kind of movies that were mastered on the format.
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@@Sammy-34079 I have both formats, also stop trashing cutting edge technology.
Love this sort of video. Even though I’ve been collecting 4K UHD for years, it’s still nice to hear.
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Thank you for this beautiful video!
I remember when I was editing my independent film that was shot in SD, I always noticed back then that you had to add a good amount of contrast and color because it was a very faintly established image due to that bit rate barely existing.And so I essentially do the same with HD adding just a little more contrast and color to the image, I wonder if that can come close with it just somewhat resembling the new 4K HDR. It feels like it does.
HDR also allows for improved brightness and contrast, with brighter whites and darker blacks. But this is quite dependant on your display quality. OLEDs will have the best contrast and color reproduction, but they aren't necessarily the brightest.
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Great explanation!! 🎉
One point that I think needs to be touched on is the type of displays people are watching 4k content on. A lot of people have edge lit 4k panels which don’t do much justice to HDR content. I feel at a minimum a full array local dimming display is needed to get the benefit of 4k HDR content.
Even though you sold out, I still love your content, Jeff.
...uh?
I have noticed that tv settings can make a huge difference on how a 4K disc can look. It really affects the experience
the only thing id argue, as far as distance compared to 4k/1080, is during gaming.
I undersrand that isnt the main focus of the channel, but 4k on a PC moniter compared to standard HD can be a huge deal depending on what you're playing. Most notibly with PvP games. Its the difference between seeing a bush and seeing the person hiding inside it.
Thanks Jeff for the info. I've recently gone down the rabbit hole of using RTX HDR upscaling on my HTPC (Home Theater PC) for below 4K content and the results have been amazing. Nvidia is utilizing the tech in their new Geforce RTX graphics cards to AI enhance video (and games) on the fly. On casually viewing comparing native 4K HDR with RTX HDR upscaled 1080p content on a 65 inch HDR TV is nearly unnoticeable. However, native 4K HDR is better as the color grading is (theoretically) being performed by a human with artistic(?) intent. It works with streaming, digital downloads, and (with all those PC hoop jumping prerequisites) blu-ray/DVD. Linus Tech Tips did a dive video into this a few months ago when the Nvidia driver updates dropped.
I see slight difference side to side 4k about 4x file size. Want long record so go 1080p think use 30fps
And Sony hdr cx 405 30x optical $225
Another thing to consider is that streaming services have mostly started requiring their highest priced tier I order to get their 4K, Dolby Vision, or Dolby Atmos content. So is someone doesn’t want to pay the most for a streaming service then 4K content probably isn’t for them (for streaming, at least).
Great stuff as always mate! Concise, informative
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I still haven't upgraded to 4K. Stuff is expensive. I hope to try it one day.
Excellent video Jeff. Thank you for making it simple to understand for the rest of us.
I see in the comments alot of people are on the fence .
Before I broke down and bought my first 4k tv, I started buying the Blu-ray/4 k combo packs knowing I was buying the 4k tv later but still got the Blu rays for now....yes it cost me more upfront, but when the TV arrived I had about 10 4ks already in these combo packs.
Unrelated question....Would it be within your niche to do a video of why the movies are bombing this year vs last?
Are we just broke?
I thought Planet of the Apes and Mad Max would be killing it and they are like warm at best...I loved them both. Your thoughts please.
Watching this for the 4k vs 1080p info. Was not expecting a pic of the Samuel Beckett bridge here in Dublin to pop up on my screen (1m 09secs) 😂😂
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I have a 42'' 4K Toshiba tv, which I mainly bought for my Xbox Series X. I still use a lot of DVDs (which upscale surprisingly well) and Blu Rays are reserved for my favourites now that prices are so low that double dipping is pretty cheap). I only own 2 4K discs (one was accidentally included with a Blu day the other was a bargain find of Alien sealed in a charity shop for £5. It just so happens to be my favourite film and one of the few I would triple dip on!) That said, from a gaming point of view the colour difference between 1080p and 4K is impressive. Considering that the furthest I can actually sit from the screen is maybe 7 to 8 feet it seems that there isn't much point getting a much bigger screen, as it seems 4K wouldn't be a massive improvement over 1080p on anything g less than a 55'' screen.
Nice video. There needs to be more educational videos out there for new collectors. They exist.
Thank you for this information. Very helpful 👍🏻
I have a 120" 4k projector and I'm 10 feet away and 4k quality is amazing!
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I've only got a 43" LED TV and sit around 3ft away so picture isn't actually primary for me. Larger sets of 55" and greater especially ULED are not in my likely or foreseeable future. So for me it's more about Atmos. I've got a soundbar and surrounds which does a job for now and which I'm more likely to upgrade to separates before a TV. I've bought a bunch of 1080p Blu-rays recently that have Atmos, some second hand. I'm mostly upgrading DVD to 4K. The one annoyance is that Atmos is only available on 4K in many circumstances so that means some Blu-ray I may need to upgrade.
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Going back to data sizing on 4K discs...it is a concern when you have a much earlier 4K player. I purchased mine in 2018 and when the file sizes reach about 66 - 100 GB, then the disc would skip and cause frame glitching. It's changed now with updated players but in case anyone else has that issue with their earlier players, that's the cause of that.
For me the 4K discs offer the best sound options i.e Atmos etc. If you don't have an Atmos or similiar setup you're not going to be that put out with blu ray, unless you're a purist, most ain't. I bought the Diamond version blu ray version of Gravity that had the Atmos sound over the 4k that didn't. Think they now have a 4k with Atmos, don't know as i am happy with the blu ray.
Wide Colour Gamut increases the gamut and number of distinct colors available. HDR then increases the range of luminance available for each color.
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Thank you 🙏🏽 great explanation
I feel the quality of your 4K TV also plays a big factor into if you can see a big difference with 4K content. I currently have a very cheap 50 inch Samsung 4K tv in my bedroom and hdr content is horrible due to not having enough nits to display hdr properly, so I really only notice a sharpness difference at this point. That’s why later this year I plan on upgrading to a 55 inch Oled TV.
I would recommend going 65" providing it fits comfortably in the room and you have the appropriate viewing angle and distance. I have a 55" Sony OLED which is a great TV and a great size for my room but I only got it because it's the maximum size that would fit in my room. 65" (and onwards) is more of an ideal cinematic size whereas 55" is more "good enough" if that makes sense. When it comes to 4K TVs, particularly higher end displays like OLED bigger is better.
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@@yousellouts sony oled is trash sony sdr 1080p tv is better
I have a 8k TV. N I have watch alot of 4k movies on it n just recently started watching blue rays on my 8k tv n blue rays looks mind blowing on a 8k TV. My 4k player add hdr to all blue rays. 8k upscaling looks pretty impressive.
Keep up the good work Jeff
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I tried the spiderman 4k against the bluray and i didnt see the drastic colour difference like in that image. 4ks are better but i feel sometimes its exaggerated. Its not the same or life changing as the leap from vhs to dvd to bluray.
Stupid question why are some new blu-ray say from a 4k scan and put on a 4k disc I've noticed that second sight and arrow video etc really look good on blu-ray
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I was wondering because I have no clue I was getting ready to start trying to rip some 4K movies but was wondering if I do so can these be played on a regular standard definition TV that is not 4K what will it look like? Thanks for any info
My 4K 43 inch TV is 30 inches away from me. lol. Pretty good at this distance.
I also have 43inch 4K display and I sit roughly that same distance. Looks good to me
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@@Sammy-34079 Ew
@@CameronKiesser no 1080p is better
@@Sammy-34079 Delusional. lol. Give it up.
So just to add my 2 cents. I have a 50in plasma with a 4k player that downscales it to 1080p. Even though I don't get HDR the remastered 4k look great of older movies. I can also notice a difference in newer movies to. I compared Sonic 2 with the blu-ray vs the 4k and the 4k was better but not by a a lot being as its a newer movie. The color looked better on Sonic and other detail to. Also Just got in my Rango 4k steel book and watched it. Looked great. Even though Rango CGI was always amazing for its time and still is now.
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Dang, was really hoping you would give us some side by side comparisons like the thumbnail implies. What do I have to do to get that video to happen??? 😁
I do these in a ton of review videos. But to be honest I stopped because UA-cam compression makes the comparisons pretty worthless most times
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Great stuff!
I bought a 4K disc a while back, played it on my old TV, and the picture was way too dark. Now, with a 4K TV, the difference is insane-everything’s crystal clear!
What movies do you all recommend to really show off the quality?
I don't notice 4K quality on my tv eventhough it's 4K compatible. Watching Top Gun Maverick 4K paled in comparison to seeing it in IMAX.
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I’m slowly replacing all my DVDs to Blu Ray. If the movie is really good, I’ll upgrade to 4K. However not all 4K upgrades are great. The Arrow Weird Science has an awful transfer. The Arrow Blu ray was actually better.
Just asking because I see for your title image (I don’t know if I used the right word for it) was from your 4k review of the Sam raimi Spider-Man trilogy but are you looking forward to the Spider-Man 4 fan film by high mountain studios? Personally I think would’ve been cool to see the story more complete especially considering Spider-Man 3 left on a cliffhanger.
Nice video, Enjoy your special Month Jeff.
4K really isn't needed for most people based on their viewing distance and size of TV. It's really the HDR and black levels with Oled and similar tech, etc. that are pretty much exclusive to 4K tvs that really matter. Other than say if you have an old plasma tv that had better blacks.
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Maybe it's blissful ignorance but I enjoy both formats' equally. Not sure the HDR is a game changer. My big reason for buying the 4k is maybe the sharpness but mostly the better soundtracks.
Thanks
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not sure if youve answered this somewhere, but what are your TV settings in terms of motion smoothing as it is driving me insane constantly changing the de-judder from 0-3 and not sure which is best or most similar to how it would look in the cinema. Also do you use filmmaker mode etc? thanks!
I use filmmaker mode most times. That eliminates most of the BS
@@JeffRauseo thanks for replying, so do you have completely no motion smoothing at all as there’s a lot of judder on my Samsung 65inch when filmmaker mode is on and has zero motion smoothing at all.
Isn't bluray always 2K and normal dvd 1080p? I would like to see a video of movies which still look better in bluray compared to 4K format.
Very interesting video !
Can you do a comparison of the True Lies 4K and Blu-ray that's in the same box please. The Blu-ray was from a different 2K master and apparently isn't DNRed anywhere near as much.
Good explanations for new collectors 😀
It’ll be nice to see a video on a good 4k player to get.
Do you to do anything to different, like a setting or anything, for HDR on a 4K disc or does it automatically play when the disc is played? I have heard of discs with both HDR and Dolby Vision so how does the player know which to play?
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Could you do a video on 2k and 4k native images and transfers?
Dolby vision, dtm, fald (tv)
4K is best viewed on a huge screen about 4 feet away. IMO. You really pick up the detail more.
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Internet speed is one aspect for streaming but the bigger issue is most people stream using wireless and the quality of their wireless access solution/config lets them down.
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All I want is a “Good Transferred”. Is that difficult to ask?
What’s next for home media quality? Is 4k going to be the last stop or will we eventually get 8k? Can the color range get wider than it is now? Are our eyes even capable of seeing the difference of either on the screens we use?
I’ve a decent collection but it seems like it was yesterday I bought my first Blu-ray, now I’m buying 4k uhd. What’s next lol
Great video!
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The only time audio factors into the difference between 4K and 1080p is discs from Disney and Sony. Disney and Sony reserve Dolby Atmos for 4K discs only. Why I don't know...
Just business decisions. It still has nothing to do with the format.
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sdr vs hdr photo at 3:59 bogus. I have yet to see it happen
The main difference is that the 4K Blu-ray format is only available in flat 2D rather than stereoscopic 3D
This is one of the things that is holding me back from Investing in a UHD tv. My 1080p tv still has great picture quality and it does do 3D.
Why do we say 1080p for hd which is the vertical pixels but when referung to UHD we use the horizontal pixels..... shouldn't we compare the vertical pixels....? So 4k is only twice the amount?? Correct me if im wrong. Im confused 😂
4k blu-ray and 4k tv trash go back to 1080p blu-ray with 1080p tv!
What going happen after 4k?
4K disc for home video is very likely the LAST home video format. As sad as that is, it is where we are. The market is just too small and split to make and sense financially for studios to give us consumer 8K discs. My understanding is there is already 8K and even potentially 16K discs. But for archival type stuff for studios and companies. Things we will never see as consumers unfortunately.
It is the same as 8K and 16K TVs. We already see them available. In fact 8K TVs have been for some time. But I don't see any need for them, literally for a decade or more right now. For multiple reasons. As someone who works in film, there is already available 6K, 8K and I hear even 16K cameras. Costing hundreds of thousands of dollars.
But again, these are for things like huge Hollywood companies. Plus, on small TVs, we won't even be able to see things like 8K or 16k. The pixels at that point are too small unless you have a massive screen. I have a true 4K projector. And besides the HDR support, I wasn't that impressed by the difference between my 1080p projector and 4K. Even on like an 8-10 foot screen. It just doesn't make sense at home for these crazy resolutions. 🤷
Idk whenever i see 1080p videos they always look sharper than 4k , 4k always looks too smooth and blurry not in focus