Dallas Austin Recalls Illegal Going To Live With Suge Knight & Death Row Records

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
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    TLC's Lisa Left Eye Lopes brought the adolescent Rap duo Illegal to Dallas Austin. He signed the group to his Rowdy Records and put Jamal and Malik in the studio with legends. However, things started to go wrong with Illegal when the guys stayed in California and started rolling with Suge Knight's Death Row Records. Dallas details flying to L.A. to meet with Suge and attempt to retrieve the guys after a half-million dollar investment from Clive Davis and Arista. Dallas Austin recalls the story in this clip from part 2 of his Questlove Supreme interview.
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  • @migit6foot4
    @migit6foot4 Рік тому +18

    I'm Migit from Jena-si-qua. (LEFT EYE PRODUCTIONS) along with Blaque..And we and Jamal lived with Lisa(Left Eye) in Marietta Ga....on Windy Hill Rd. He was a little bad azz. When I saw him at Lisa's funeral he looked like he was doing bad. Hope he's OK. That's like our little brother...Lisa got him from Philly.

  • @BigDapPacino
    @BigDapPacino Рік тому +40

    illegal was dope...Malik had the illest flow for a kid his age and he had a verse on a song from Doggystyle but Mally G ended up really stepping his game up ..." Fades Em All" was incredible ...in fact, his debut album was solid...Def Squad was a great fit for him!

    • @siqaraminmassaquoi1999
      @siqaraminmassaquoi1999 Рік тому +3

      You're right! He was on the song Pump, Pump on Doggystyle

    • @HipHopSportsWorld
      @HipHopSportsWorld 9 місяців тому +1

      Questlove, start doing interviews by yourself, for some reason your side host is getting on my nerves with their 2 cents!

    • @breytonlemons6714
      @breytonlemons6714 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@siqaraminmassaquoi1999 they were on too shorts thangs change from cocktails they had that many connections in the industry

  • @toryrapp8317
    @toryrapp8317 Рік тому +29

    I remember running into Jamal downtown Atlanta and buying his solo CD I was so excited to meet a Def Squad member impersonal Illegal should've had a lot more success !

    • @ninoblakk
      @ninoblakk Рік тому +6

      I saw Jamal about 6 months ago on Jimmy Carter....fresh out of jail...with a handful of Philly mixtapes.....i respect dude, still hustling, pushing, ain't asking nobody for nothing. Showed love.

  • @damienwiley2312
    @damienwiley2312 Рік тому +12

    Jamal’s last chance no breaks album is majorly slept on..

  • @insubordinatenyctv3627
    @insubordinatenyctv3627 Рік тому +33

    Shout out to Illegal definitely a part of the 90’s fabric of hip hop 🏆

  • @jae3003
    @jae3003 Рік тому +13

    Hershey Loc was on Too $hort's "Things Change" from the Cocktails album and Monica's "Like This, Like That"

    • @NatHenrickClarke
      @NatHenrickClarke Рік тому +2

      Jamal was on things chande too

    • @jae3003
      @jae3003 Рік тому +1

      @@NatHenrickClarke sure was

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 Рік тому +1

      I totally forgot that was him on Monica's song but I can still recite the verse. 😅

    • @DopeItzTheeOne
      @DopeItzTheeOne 10 місяців тому +1

      He was Snoop and Tha Dogg Pound albums too, he even had solo song Malik Goes On but it didn’t get much play.

    • @jdeedaniels6313
      @jdeedaniels6313 7 місяців тому +1

      Mr Malik Hershey loc DPG and Jamal in the Def Squad with the Eric sermon, Redman and Keith Murray 🔥

  • @CinqueMalcolm
    @CinqueMalcolm 10 місяців тому +1

    Bruh, I lost it when he got to Malik saying he didn't even know Jamal and that he said he had to sleep with one eye open...... that's wild.

  • @badnewzscubasteve
    @badnewzscubasteve Рік тому +10

    I need this story in animation.. ASAP!!!! 🤣🤣

  • @DewDamaff
    @DewDamaff Рік тому +6

    Malik had arguably the best verse on Doggystyle...That lil nigga was cold...

    • @layback76
      @layback76 5 місяців тому +1

      Facts! What happened to that dude

  • @enzigenes
    @enzigenes Рік тому +19

    Illegal doesn't get enough credit. Shout to Dallas Austin Jamal, and Malik. Their album was dope. Hip Hop in the purest form. I also heard somewhere that Biggie wanted Jamal in the Junior Mafia group and Malik was on death row with Pac and Dogg Pound.

    • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
      @MichaelBrown-ti1un Рік тому +5

      Jamal was on that first Junior Mafia album. Never knew Biggie wanted to recruit him tho. Makes sense.

    • @BigDapPacino
      @BigDapPacino Рік тому +3

      Jamal ended up with Def Squad...Erick Sermon and Redman had him spitting flames over their dope instrumentals...I heard he went to college and ended up getting a 9 to 5 mean while Malik ended up...going back and forth to jail or serving time at a state pen!

    • @twocents6951
      @twocents6951 Рік тому +1

      @@MichaelBrown-ti1un I heard about Big wanting to recruit a few dudes. He was really about to get his mogul on.

    • @DonYoGi8331
      @DonYoGi8331 Рік тому +1

      ​@@twocents6951he was definitely bout to leave Puff and Puff knew it.

  • @jasonism.
    @jasonism. Рік тому +8

    Back in the Day was the hardest shit they put out. I remember Jamal popped up on some cbs drama series and Malik was on the Doggpound album. That's about all I remember on them. Can't believe they won a billboard award over hip hop hooray. 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @DrunkenLockwood
    @DrunkenLockwood 3 місяці тому

    There First Album The Untold Truth CD Is So Underrated And Slept On By People That Whole Album Was Dope

  • @pervertedalchemist9944
    @pervertedalchemist9944 Рік тому +35

    Man...Illegal basically sabotaged their own career, SMH.

    • @plantbasedministries9233
      @plantbasedministries9233 Рік тому +10

      They were children.

    • @pervertedalchemist9944
      @pervertedalchemist9944 Рік тому +3

      @@plantbasedministries9233 Adina Howard also sabotaged her career at a record label. She wasn't a child - she was in her mid 20's.

    • @chinbeats6551
      @chinbeats6551 Рік тому +2

      Do you know how young they were at the time lmao

  • @AbouTto_
    @AbouTto_ Рік тому +11

    This episode was great. It could have gone another hour, easily.

  • @dnachistatrax1029
    @dnachistatrax1029 Рік тому +12

    It's crazy...I remember the ATL episode, of Yo MTV Raps...still got it, on tape...The Dungeon Family, Too Short and Dallas talking about Illegal...they were playing the Jamal, Instrumental during the interview! Crazy how time flies!

    • @lexico8165
      @lexico8165 Рік тому +1

      I remember that episode too, you should upload to YT, the whole episode. I know I ain't seen it since the mid 90's!

    • @dnachistatrax1029
      @dnachistatrax1029 Рік тому +1

      @@lexico8165 It's on vhs, in storage...I just moved, you got my word though...if I find it, I'll convert it and do just that 💪🏼💯

    • @lexico8165
      @lexico8165 Рік тому

      @@dnachistatrax1029 Much respect!

  • @Sputz3
    @Sputz3 Рік тому +4

    *Hersey Loc was signed to E-40 Sic Wit It Records too. His album cover was on the back of one of E-40 albums but it was never released.*

  • @omari-up9wt
    @omari-up9wt Рік тому +38

    I saw Jamal a few months ago in ATL. He looked to be in bad, bad shape. I hope he gets his self together.

    • @thedarksideoftheforce6658
      @thedarksideoftheforce6658 Рік тому +4

      He left Philly and lives in the ATL? You sure it was him? Bad shape like drugs?

    • @nore263
      @nore263 Рік тому +5

      Mall be all over he be in Erie from time to time he'll bounce back he always been like that

    • @Ah-ed6ie
      @Ah-ed6ie Рік тому +7

      Jamal was the first to go solo right?

    • @Stanlayy-em4fk
      @Stanlayy-em4fk Рік тому +10

      ​@@Ah-ed6ie
      I just remember Malik being on the last track of the Doggystyle album.

    • @dianevrules
      @dianevrules Рік тому +13

      @@Stanlayy-em4fk He was also on Warren G's Whats Next and We Want Yo Hands Up

  • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
    @MichaelBrown-ti1un Рік тому +7

    Crazy story lol. Whatever happened to Malik aka Lil' Hershey Loc? Seems like he was with the Dogg Pound, then Warren G, then we never heard from him again. Had verses on Doggystyle, Regulate: G-Funk Era, Dogg Food and Like This and Like That with Monica, a big commercial hit, and nothing ever happened with his career afterwards.

  • @xavierwilliams2228
    @xavierwilliams2228 Рік тому +4

    Yo this is very informative and crazy. D. Austin a great story teller.

  • @gunsaitouge3822
    @gunsaitouge3822 Рік тому +3

    Excellent interview. So much stuff I had no clue about. No disrespect although I gotta say this. I wish Laiya would tone it down just a bit. There are times where she interrupts the guest unnecessarily and they aren't able to complete their point. I dig the conversational atmosphere of these interviews although at times there can be a bit too much cross talk, especially when some are having a fan moment and forget that there are thousands of other people listening to this interview. Although I can appreciate the difficulties in striking a good balance with conversational tones and pure interview style, it's not easy although there is room for improvement and a bit of restraint regarding hosts chiming in loudly and unnecessarily.

  • @ThisIsZ4Real
    @ThisIsZ4Real Рік тому +6

    DAMN, Illegal fucked up a perfect opportunity, SMH!!! 🤦🏾‍♂️ And Malik is my lil homie from middle school, hope all is well with him...✌🏿

  • @acezanders1715
    @acezanders1715 Рік тому +9

    Jamal was a beast hope he releases more heat

    • @darianbroomfield8361
      @darianbroomfield8361 Рік тому

      Keep it real yo gotta keep it real yo that was a dope track Jamal put out in 95

  • @mhc12k
    @mhc12k Рік тому +24

    I remember When illegal won that award, I was scratching my head because I thought Chief Rocka would've won

    • @palms235
      @palms235 Рік тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @NQuiz52
    @NQuiz52 Рік тому

    This was an amazing story. Yo! Dallas, you're a fantastic storyteller. You need to give us some more gems like these.

  • @edm1207
    @edm1207 Рік тому +6

    Oh now i see how malik got those dope features with snoop and warren g...Illegal would have been bigger than kriss kross if they had worked with deathrow imo

  • @SCOOTCARR
    @SCOOTCARR Рік тому +1

    Fades ‘‘em all was a classic!

  • @jaystew730
    @jaystew730 Рік тому +6

    I remember Malik on Warren G first album

    • @trevarid
      @trevarid Рік тому +2

      And snoops

    • @jaystew730
      @jaystew730 Рік тому +2

      @@trevarid yep

    • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
      @MichaelBrown-ti1un Рік тому +6

      He was on Dogg Food too. Crazy he never blew. He had verses on like 3-4 of the most important west coast albums in the '90s
      L.

  • @kingluki1435
    @kingluki1435 Рік тому +3

    Still bang 🎶 Illegal & Jamal to this day ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

  • @blackdonte24
    @blackdonte24 Рік тому +5

    Illegal was the RAWEST kid's group ever!!!

  • @rawwslap
    @rawwslap Рік тому +4

    You know I used to wonder why this group illegal came out of nowhere caught people's attention disappeared and the next thing you know you see malik on the Southside riders wothE-40 and B-Legit with the little promo add in the album flap about Malik being on sick WID it records. Both these rappers was dope, but it seems like they got in their own way of making it in music you can have all the talent in the world and still come up short in this dirty game

  • @bowling4clarity817
    @bowling4clarity817 Рік тому +17

    Liela is so extra.

  • @NQuiz52
    @NQuiz52 Рік тому

    3:25 "I gotta go get the kids from where?" 🤣😂😂😀

  • @keezdahalfpint1408
    @keezdahalfpint1408 Рік тому +1

    Back in the day when I was a teenager my favorite from dem

  • @RahZi73
    @RahZi73 4 місяці тому

    That lil wiz tune was on point 4:53

  • @lethal5flow679
    @lethal5flow679 Рік тому +1

    I always thought Illegal was gonna be the next EPMD

  • @popthefoxx9687
    @popthefoxx9687 Рік тому +1

    I was living with Illegal when they came out to the West Coast we were in the Valley… them niggas fought everyday!!!! Jamal banged Mansfield Crip and Malik banged Piru!!!

  • @Creations4Seasons
    @Creations4Seasons Рік тому +13

    Ol girl toooo giggly

  • @PrinceMalachi7
    @PrinceMalachi7 Рік тому +3

    This story was hilarious 😂. I always used to wonder how Malik got down with the dog pound

    • @udontknowme6764
      @udontknowme6764 7 місяців тому +1

      That’s Snoop Dogg’s cousin on his southern side of the family

  • @revinot
    @revinot Рік тому

    Quest looks like Mr. T, its a beautiful thing

  • @grandinquizitor7412
    @grandinquizitor7412 Рік тому +1

    What ever happened to that group "Posse"? They were from the 5th Ward and discovered by the Geto Boyz. They had this one song called, Bring It On.

  • @NatHenrickClarke
    @NatHenrickClarke Рік тому +2

    I always wondered what happened, that red tape was my shit! And Malik from the 803

  • @hpeezy58
    @hpeezy58 Рік тому

    Wow…swear I remember those dudes from back in the day

  • @antoniastfu
    @antoniastfu Рік тому +17

    Malik was raw af . I wonder whatever happened to him.

    • @carolinaKing864
      @carolinaKing864 Рік тому +4

      He’s back in South Carolina from what I’ve heard

    • @freedomilla
      @freedomilla Рік тому +2

      He supposed to be on Diamond D's next diampiece album.

    • @lethal5flow679
      @lethal5flow679 Рік тому +2

      Last time saw him, I think was decades ago in a Monica video....its weird when talented people just disappear, or don't the shine they deserve

  • @Ifearnoman131
    @Ifearnoman131 Рік тому +8

    Mannnn she needs to allow people to talk mannn she’s over doing it smh

  • @1onlypogreed54
    @1onlypogreed54 Рік тому +1

    Malik was the truth with Warren g on so many ways and the one with Snoop

  • @lucasm3879
    @lucasm3879 Рік тому +1

    It's crazy when you think how talented they must have been to be impressing pople like Busta, Erick Sermon, Dre, Snoop, Warren G AT 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD

  • @2thapublikk381
    @2thapublikk381 Рік тому

    I love y'all talk about blood from Roots you one of my favorite MCS ever I'm from Pacoima California I don't play no games all of the whatever you doing

  • @javi__...
    @javi__... Рік тому +1

    I remember the story was that Malik was snoops or kurupts cousin

  • @loveloyalty563
    @loveloyalty563 Рік тому +8

    The boys were very close to Lisa use to call her mom even lived with her. Jamal recently did an interview with Highly Dishfunctional show.
    In the beginning Malik was with Treach then Lisa put him with Jamal. Jamal knew Lisa longer and was closer to her in the beginning. They are both from Philly.

  • @davidpeaston8443
    @davidpeaston8443 Рік тому +3

    Sounds like adults just being adults and allowing some kids to be rewarded for acting a damn fool as long as it sells....

  • @bowling4clarity817
    @bowling4clarity817 Рік тому +9

    Dallas sounds like Dennis Rodman.

  • @elijahstraight402
    @elijahstraight402 Рік тому +3

    Wasn't Malik Snoop's cousin?

  • @Dem816gritter
    @Dem816gritter Рік тому +1

    Is malik on warren g album the same malik on Monica's " like this and like that?

  • @dw8466
    @dw8466 Рік тому +1

    I smoked weed with Jamal at Eric Sermon rim shop in the studio in the basement at the rim shop on Peachtree my cousin was getting rims for Lexus. Oh yeah two short was there also

  • @kelvinmanley6166
    @kelvinmanley6166 Рік тому +23

    She irritating lol

  • @blackmist1981
    @blackmist1981 Рік тому

    I had the Illegal bootleg joint and might have the casette to this day

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 Рік тому +5

    Back In The Day ....
    Ps Peace to Rudy Ray Moore
    Pps Jamal Keep It Real had that Stevie Wonder sample.

  • @AbouTto_
    @AbouTto_ Рік тому

    Roots Picnic 50 years of hip hop tribute... Idea...

  • @Flatlandproductionz
    @Flatlandproductionz Рік тому +1

    I think Malik was signed with Sic Wit It a a point & time.

  • @vegasmitch1472
    @vegasmitch1472 Рік тому

    GREAT Story. i'm Dallas Age & even though they were Kids i Really liked the young Dude Jamal & had His Single "Who wants 2 Fk wit Jamal" & Always wondered what happened.

  • @GonjaSensai
    @GonjaSensai Рік тому

    I still got the Red Cassette

  • @theglewshow
    @theglewshow Рік тому

    Classic

  • @ARushin80
    @ARushin80 Рік тому

    Dope story

  • @RG-zw5wc
    @RG-zw5wc Рік тому +1

    Now who the f wanna see Jamal i fades em all!

  • @THEREALGULLYTV
    @THEREALGULLYTV Рік тому +1

    Jamal has been living Between Erie Pennsylvania and Atlanta since around 1999 that’s why he’s been on Gully Tv so much , Jamal Stole a bag out of Suge Knight Limousine in the bag was a camcorder & some tapes on it was Blade activity with Some big Name Black Celebrities Suge was extorting They wanted to Kill Jamal Mark Curry was in the middle of that situation. Mal is similar to Black Rob After living a certain way so long AINT no coming back, 😢

    • @lethal5flow679
      @lethal5flow679 Рік тому

      Why was Suge even rolling around in a Limo with gay celebrity porn?
      And since it seems u fell put with Jamal, did he tell u of the celebrities name's?

    • @MikeyMike-uu3fe
      @MikeyMike-uu3fe 10 місяців тому +1

      Just herd him tell it on ART OF DIALOGUE

  • @omgbreezy4707
    @omgbreezy4707 Рік тому

    So the kid in the thumbnail not young Lloyd Banks??

  • @slemkapone5769
    @slemkapone5769 Рік тому

    Jamal was with Def Squad

  • @RubbleHome
    @RubbleHome Рік тому +1

    Malik was right

  • @layback76
    @layback76 5 місяців тому

    Damn will that chick let him tell the story without interrupting!

  • @jaykaynum5569
    @jaykaynum5569 Рік тому

    Jamal
    Last Chance No Brakes
    🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤

  • @marcus.6487
    @marcus.6487 Рік тому +1

    illegal was dope…wish they wild ass could’a rode it out and got along, dem luh’ niggaz was jam’n

  • @DopeItzTheeOne
    @DopeItzTheeOne 10 місяців тому

    Mr. Malik is actually Some kin to Snoop Dogg and The Dogg Pound I believe he’s their cousin so it makes sense 🤣🤣🤣

  • @1onlypogreed54
    @1onlypogreed54 Рік тому +1

    Y'all would know a lil extra from snoops 1st source interview Malik was there and he ain't know how to act he thought it was cool to get the strap and said some foul shit to the big dude from pm Dawn

  • @justmeblac7273
    @justmeblac7273 Рік тому +4

    Volume terrible

  • @dickjuice-ox8jj
    @dickjuice-ox8jj 24 дні тому

    Saulte Jamal he knows the truth

  • @CoverBoy_Official
    @CoverBoy_Official Рік тому +2

    Head or Gut

  • @chinbeats6551
    @chinbeats6551 Рік тому

    BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER

  • @TheMmiguelito
    @TheMmiguelito Рік тому

    " the wiz song m all" bwhahahaha Lolololololol bwhahahaha Lolololololol bwhahahaha Lolololololol bwhahahaha

  • @Flatlandproductionz
    @Flatlandproductionz Рік тому

    Hershey Loc Mr. Malik was my guy

  • @babysnap
    @babysnap Рік тому

    📍

  • @kingluki1435
    @kingluki1435 Рік тому

    Wait wait isn’t mr mailk & snoop related

  • @juelz713
    @juelz713 Рік тому

    What happen to Illegal

  • @ekzoX0
    @ekzoX0 Рік тому

    Another of these crazy Billboard awards stories. I now there is “prestige” and such with certain awards but I wish 1 nominee would win an award and just sh** on the awards show live.
    “Like yeah its no grammy but uhh… thanx”

  • @ruff2007
    @ruff2007 Рік тому

    Illegal The Greats .Ain't Nothing About Them Chris/Cross Peace.

  • @dzgroove9
    @dzgroove9 Рік тому +1

    Malik dusted Warren G on What's Next. He pulled curtain back on them wack lyrics

    • @CinqueMalcolm
      @CinqueMalcolm 10 місяців тому +1

      What's n-x-e-t

    • @dzgroove9
      @dzgroove9 10 місяців тому

      @@CinqueMalcolm As I.. Flicks to tha flex... what's next. 🤣🤣🤣😅

  • @thedarksideoftheforce6658
    @thedarksideoftheforce6658 Рік тому

    I thought Eric Sermon signed them?

    • @darrenharris3434
      @darrenharris3434 Рік тому +6

      Erick worked with them under Dallas first, then when Jamal went solo, he started working with the Def Squad and became an affiliate...his solo album was still released by Rowdy Records tho

  • @TheMmiguelito
    @TheMmiguelito Рік тому

    I think Malik started going by chocolate didn't he

  • @dickjuice-ox8jj
    @dickjuice-ox8jj 24 дні тому

    Kriss kross stole illegal style

  • @nicholasverando2150
    @nicholasverando2150 Рік тому

    Lil wayne took malik style

  • @SurgeCess
    @SurgeCess 11 місяців тому

    Jamals grandmother put roots on Malik?? Was she a Manbo?

    • @udontknowme6764
      @udontknowme6764 7 місяців тому

      I think she put roots on Jamal too that’s why both them niggas (Lil Malik & Jamal) got strung out on sherm for a looooooong ass time they both just kinda (Jamal still usin sometimes you can tell by his interview) got clean

  • @N.A5131
    @N.A5131 10 місяців тому

    dude was a kid himself back then what the hell he talking bout.......he is 53 Jamal is 44..both born in the 70s he was 19 tbey were 11 and 12 all of em were lil n's ..he talking like he was a grown man back then😂😂😂😂😂

    • @CinqueMalcolm
      @CinqueMalcolm 10 місяців тому +1

      He was. He already had platinum hits and his own imprint. Tf you talking about. 20 and 12 is the difference between a boy a man.

    • @N.A5131
      @N.A5131 10 місяців тому

      @@CinqueMalcolm Then Kriss Kross at 12 and 13 were also MEN, right ? and more then him since they got their Platinum earlier.Sounds ridicilous huh?....Neurobiologically, adulthood starts no earlier then 28yrs, provided you invested in emotional control.Both 12 and 20yr olds are boys , ones a small boy, the other a big boi.

  • @TheJstyle247
    @TheJstyle247 Рік тому +1

    FYI….. I believe that he is lying….Boy got a story to tell he knows about secrets No hate he got some stuff to say

  • @gangstabiz1
    @gangstabiz1 Рік тому +3

    Did Malik end up being on some gay shit?…..I heard that rumor back in the day

    • @erikhubbard4170
      @erikhubbard4170 Рік тому +1

      Man I was waiting to see if anyone else heard that. All his verses were fire. Crazy

    • @dopemandreams
      @dopemandreams Рік тому

      Yeah he had pic of him on his Instagram page posing with his ass out