I’ve seen a few comments here an other places about putting a weight on the end of the rifle reduces the recoil. I’ve done a full video on this topic to fix that ignorance: ua-cam.com/video/h4ESNfY1SuU/v-deo.html
So basically it uses airfoils & coanda effect to reduce felt recoil, limit muzzle flip, and clear the lanes on either side of you at the range - NICE! 😅
When my kid was 3 I definitely wouldn’t let them fire any center fire gun except a PCC and even then, probably not. I still haven’t taken my 6 year old, although that’s mostly a convenience thing plus my 6 year old is a girl. According to my wife girls don’t shoot guns. I disagree and think that it’s more important for my girls to shoot then for my boys. (Still trying to get the wife out shooting. She’s said if she ever needs to she can use the shotgun! Spoken like someone who doesn’t know how vicious a shotgun can be.)
This just reminds me of when the military found out that muzzle blasts from heavier weapons induce microconcussions, and cummulative long term exposure could develop into TBI. Just putting it out there.
The airfoil doesn't seem to do anything. It's just the high pressure gasses being redirected to the rear. For an airfoil to work and actually create lift, it has to face incoming air at an appropriate Angle of Attack. These "airfoils" are perpendicular to the direction of fluid travel. The AoA is essentially 90 degrees. The lift it can produce is the same of an airplane dropping like a rock from the sky with no forward velocity - none. If it were possible to clamp that cutaway model to acrylic and release some kind of pressurized air mixed with smoke or fog, we'd see that the airflow moving out the ports would have separation from the airfoil which is indicative of a stall.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Except the pressure differential is pushing air across them at high speeds. I'm sure the redirection doesn't hurt either, but the airfoil theory is quite sound.
@@SuspiciousGanymede If there's walls nearby, for example, weapons like the Mk19 and the 50 cal can have the shockwaves bounce off it. The shoulder fired weapons issue was known already, it was the microconcussion thing that surprised them. A similar thing happens in boxing, people worry about the big concussions but it is known that the repetitive punching from sparring generates a high number of smaller shocks that in the end have cumulative effects and can develop into TBI. I didn't want to imply that shooting 5.56 in an outdoor range is going to make people turn into retired boxers, there's plenty of old shooters who are sharp in the mind and they've shot big calibers. Now indoor range, with the steel dividers that don't have sound absorption panels, obnoxiously short barrels and these silly brakes... I'd try to not do that often.
I agree show it reducing recoil on larger calibers, the noise from those has to be horrendous, maybe intolerable despite hearing protection. Maybe the velocity increase over the curve is a magnitude over the speed of sound and each curve becomes an additional source of sonic boom that services to lengthen the sonic impulse since they are so close together. Why not put a suppressor between the muzzle and the “Brake.”
May be loud, but its flat. We got to get one of our rifles in your hand next! Love the sense of humor, and we will take the critiques to heart here at U.S. Arms Company.
it's a 556 how much recoil does it have !!!??????!! all that bang and gas not wort it. seriously even a old skinny guy like me 223/556 recoil is pretty light .
The function is not so much from the airfoil design as far as "lift" goes. It's from thrust and the cupping shape using the deflection of the mass of air pushing on the brake. The shape certainly makes the flow smoother though.
It seems like every other time I go to the range some guy has a 9" 308 with a crazy muzzle brake on it right next to me. A couple weeks ago there was literally flames shooting into my stall from the guy next door. I was getting blasted with heat and concussion.
We need to have units for gas evolution waves (GEWs) I propose the Brandon as a SI unit. A SBD might be a mBr (milliBrandon) A short, sharp sh@rt might be 1 Br (uniBrandon) A diaper-filler aka full intestinal mag-dump might be a kBr (kiloBrandon)
@@Beardman56 I think demolition ranch made one or did a video with one. I think it’s been a few years back now. I don’t remember if he called it a loudener or a loudencer.
I actually love the concept of this brake. It’s still a give and take… give up about all recoil but take a shit ton of noise. If they could make a gen 2 and modify this to possibly use a lighter material, make is smaller, and somehow less LOUD, I’d spend the $300.. but realistically I’d rather buy a criterion barrel or high end trigger for that price
You would think some company would make a brake that originally pushes the gun down, but redirect that noise/gas forward again to keep the noise down!!
Whitt Machine has a brake (SME - Sound Mitigation) that has a shroud over it and pushes the noise forward. Not sure how well it does at pushing the gun down. But it definitely will help recoil while directing the sound energy down range.
I threw an Ultradyne Apollo Max on my CZ-527 in 7.62x39. That brake has a similar design with the ports pointed rewards towards the shooter. Recoil disappeared almost entirely but holy crap is it loud.
If they made one of these things that significantly reduced recoil on a .300 Win Mag, I would not care about the advertising copy. Thanks for this video. Well done! Subscribed.
I wonder... is the sound louder directly behind it as opposed to off to the side? Because off to the side (where all the mics were during your examples) is incredibly loud.
Just my personal opinion... brakes should not be used on a 5.56. No point. Give me a good flash hider instead. Big bore & high power rifle without an auto cycling action to dampen recoil, like bolt action, lever, pump... sure, I want to see what it does with that.
If it send sounds backwards, does it reduce the sound down range. Would it do it enough that it would be hard for someone down range to know where it is coming from?
Apollo S Cyberdyne Brake on a 10.5” is quite awakening also. I moved it to a 16”. Much better. Gun sits perfectly still I must say. .22lr characteristics
Lone Wulff makes a similar 9mm for pistol, works the best out of many, many that I have tried, but is also LOUD AS HELL, oh and a pain in the ass to clean, but makes my wife's CZ Shadow shoot like a .22
Let’s just US Arms Co. makes some pretty interesting products. They want $250 for this break and then they also have a $530 lower receiver for the AR platform that just has a built in AR wedge to give a better lower to upper fit to improve accuracy. Literally the same thing that I have accomplished with a $3.50 rubber AR Wedge from Ergo grip. Lol. Idk just seems pointless to me to have a built in wedge for your lower cost $200-$400 depending on what lower your comparing it to. If you compare it to a $100 Aero Precision lower then it cost $450 more for the built in wedge. Hahaha
5:23 if you fired a fully automatic AR directly into the air would “The Brake” turn it into a jetpack? Like could you fly as long as you could keep firing?
They need to add like a plate to the back that will block the gas, which may give a little recoil back, or not actually I don’t know. Just a flat or even curved back plate to reduce the blowback that comes right back at you. With the curve I think it would be great. Also not hard at all to add. Hire me guys. 🤷🏻♂️
That's not how thisworks, that's not how any of this works. You're mistaken about the fluid dynamics. Yes individual airfoils function the way you explained. However those a stacked and close together. Only the first and last port change the gas velocity. The center ports have an increase on one surface and a decrease on the other surface. Both in the same port meaning they counteract and equalize.
Why don't they put holes on the side of the barrel I shot a ar with a Holed barrel A 20 inch barrel Had 200 holes on the side of the whole barrel It probably get hot but ALOT of times u could use a forgrip so ur hands are off the barrel
I’ve seen a few comments here an other places about putting a weight on the end of the rifle reduces the recoil. I’ve done a full video on this topic to fix that ignorance:
ua-cam.com/video/h4ESNfY1SuU/v-deo.html
Maybe it was developed to destroy hearing capability for those that make the mistake of firing this without hearing protection
Great video!
First muzzle brake in history rated at 50BMG for a 32lb child.
How unbelievably loud would that be!
They don't mention the the child weighs 31 pounds after shooting and there is a pound of shit in its pants.
@@paint4pain 😆
So basically it uses airfoils & coanda effect to reduce felt recoil, limit muzzle flip, and clear the lanes on either side of you at the range - NICE! 😅
It’s horrific…
That just looks like it sounds aweful.
It’s really loud when you can see how loud it is. It crosses senses, like when a fart is so bad you taste it, lol.
I want someone to run this on a 7 inch and see if I can hear him from the next state over
@@basketofdeplorables4253 or when you hear pudding?
@@mattwalters6834 now that’s a sound I never want to hear again.
Marketing pitch…… “Allows a 32 lb child to fire a 50 BMG Safely”
When my kid was 3 I definitely wouldn’t let them fire any center fire gun except a PCC and even then, probably not. I still haven’t taken my 6 year old, although that’s mostly a convenience thing plus my 6 year old is a girl. According to my wife girls don’t shoot guns. I disagree and think that it’s more important for my girls to shoot then for my boys. (Still trying to get the wife out shooting. She’s said if she ever needs to she can use the shotgun! Spoken like someone who doesn’t know how vicious a shotgun can be.)
This just reminds me of when the military found out that muzzle blasts from heavier weapons induce microconcussions, and cummulative long term exposure could develop into TBI. Just putting it out there.
The airfoil doesn't seem to do anything. It's just the high pressure gasses being redirected to the rear. For an airfoil to work and actually create lift, it has to face incoming air at an appropriate Angle of Attack. These "airfoils" are perpendicular to the direction of fluid travel. The AoA is essentially 90 degrees. The lift it can produce is the same of an airplane dropping like a rock from the sky with no forward velocity - none. If it were possible to clamp that cutaway model to acrylic and release some kind of pressurized air mixed with smoke or fog, we'd see that the airflow moving out the ports would have separation from the airfoil which is indicative of a stall.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Except the pressure differential is pushing air across them at high speeds. I'm sure the redirection doesn't hurt either, but the airfoil theory is quite sound.
I thought that was from shoulder fired weapons (RPG7, Javelin, etc.)?
WHAAAT?
@@SuspiciousGanymede If there's walls nearby, for example, weapons like the Mk19 and the 50 cal can have the shockwaves bounce off it. The shoulder fired weapons issue was known already, it was the microconcussion thing that surprised them. A similar thing happens in boxing, people worry about the big concussions but it is known that the repetitive punching from sparring generates a high number of smaller shocks that in the end have cumulative effects and can develop into TBI.
I didn't want to imply that shooting 5.56 in an outdoor range is going to make people turn into retired boxers, there's plenty of old shooters who are sharp in the mind and they've shot big calibers. Now indoor range, with the steel dividers that don't have sound absorption panels, obnoxiously short barrels and these silly brakes... I'd try to not do that often.
It converts recoil into sound neat
That's what SpecOps prefer.....
Yeah, you are THAT GUY! That's why we love you Bro!
I agree show it reducing recoil on larger calibers, the noise from those has to be horrendous, maybe intolerable despite hearing protection.
Maybe the velocity increase over the curve is a magnitude over the speed of sound and each curve becomes an additional source of sonic boom that services to lengthen the sonic impulse since they are so close together.
Why not put a suppressor between the muzzle and the “Brake.”
Id love to see someone weld that to their suppressor endcap and shoot it
May be loud, but its flat. We got to get one of our rifles in your hand next! Love the sense of humor, and we will take the critiques to heart here at U.S. Arms Company.
You guys have plans to make these in larger calibers?
Shot gun size
So what I'm hearing you say is I should put this brake on my 7" pistol and take it to the indoor range. Gotcha 😁
it's a 556 how much recoil does it have !!!??????!! all that bang and gas not wort it. seriously even a old skinny guy like me 223/556 recoil is pretty light .
but the ar15 bruised my shoulder and gave me ptsd! XD
1:22 Was that written by the guy who sold the monorail to Springfield?
I'm putting it on my 10.5" barrel and taking it to the indoor range.
Will this cause microconussioms???
I bet the fella next to you at the range really appreciates the recoil mitigation
The full-auto shooting looked really impressive
It weighs more than half a pound! That alone will reduce muzzle climb.
what you don't realize is that this was invented by that 32 pound child
Video idea:
Once a week, or whatever. "Why do we need this?" Or, "Stupid product we didn't ask for".
I tell ya what. You guys get Patreon over $1K a month and I will do this.
I've heard some companies try to hype their products before but holy shit this has got to be the best one I've ever heard!!! LMFAO
The function is not so much from the airfoil design as far as "lift" goes. It's from thrust and the cupping shape using the deflection of the mass of air pushing on the brake. The shape certainly makes the flow smoother though.
yes i do need one for 8 inch barrel AR10... itll be great on an indoor range
That's built for indoor ranges lol
Very accurate self assessment!
The Brake is a fitting name because it looks like my break pedal
“Jesus Christ…Talon must have trained Jason Bourne!” ~Noah Vosen (probably)
Could you imagine this on an AR-10 platform with a pistol length barrel. 😂
Rename it "that asshole" for the guy that brings it to an indoor range on a 9" build.
It seems like every other time I go to the range some guy has a 9" 308 with a crazy muzzle brake on it right next to me. A couple weeks ago there was literally flames shooting into my stall from the guy next door. I was getting blasted with heat and concussion.
Totally agree, I'd love to see a .30 caliber product. Looks like it's a great break, especially for full auto.
A 32 lbs brake shoot a child safely?
I really do like the fact that you explain how the product does what it does, awesome channel.
That’s pretty neat. Interesting implementation.
We need to have units for gas evolution waves (GEWs)
I propose the Brandon as a SI unit.
A SBD might be a mBr (milliBrandon)
A short, sharp sh@rt might be 1 Br (uniBrandon)
A diaper-filler aka full intestinal mag-dump might be a kBr (kiloBrandon)
Someone send this to Herrera
Yeah I'll pass on that lol, I must say the Witt machine anti rise device works great. Plus it's not obnoxiously loud.
It’s the anti silencer. Otherwise known as a loudener.
@@Beardman56 I think demolition ranch made one or did a video with one. I think it’s been a few years back now. I don’t remember if he called it a loudener or a loudencer.
i feel like i need this as im the most obnoxious guntuber :)
I actually love the concept of this brake. It’s still a give and take… give up about all recoil but take a shit ton of noise. If they could make a gen 2 and modify this to possibly use a lighter material, make is smaller, and somehow less LOUD, I’d spend the $300.. but realistically I’d rather buy a criterion barrel or high end trigger for that price
This video is gold tier.
Thank you please share
You would think some company would make a brake that originally pushes the gun down, but redirect that noise/gas forward again to keep the noise down!!
Whitt Machine has a brake (SME - Sound Mitigation) that has a shroud over it and pushes the noise forward. Not sure how well it does at pushing the gun down. But it definitely will help recoil while directing the sound energy down range.
even got me through my earbuds....well done sir!
Love the content and style and most importantly the honesty about the product. Also seem to know what you’re talking about. Subscribed and liked!!
I threw an Ultradyne Apollo Max on my CZ-527 in 7.62x39. That brake has a similar design with the ports pointed rewards towards the shooter. Recoil disappeared almost entirely but holy crap is it loud.
Troll Science: Aim up. Fire full auto. Fly.
9.5oz of extra weight off the end of your muzzle reduces recoil quite a bit...
The airflow going backwards creates thrust pushing rifle forward compensating for the recoil. Its also that. Not just some aerofoil
Perfect for my 7.5 build
Ahhh yes, the notorious Loudencer
JMac RRD4C. Just get that if you want your muzzle to stay in place. It’s much smaller and lighter. It looks better. It also works.
it looks like the kazoo from hell
If they made one of these things that significantly reduced recoil on a .300 Win Mag, I would not care about the advertising copy.
Thanks for this video. Well done!
Subscribed.
I'm deaf in one ear and can't see out of the other so sound wouldn't bother me. LOL 😜🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the video!!!
I wonder... is the sound louder directly behind it as opposed to off to the side? Because off to the side (where all the mics were during your examples) is incredibly loud.
It is way louder behind it. But you won’t know from video because all the sound is way out of detection range for normal recording mics
lets get this straight: they just wanted to flashbang home invaders.
I lost it when you read the part about the kid shooting a .50 hahahahahaha
I dare you to take it to an indoor range and see how fast you can get kicked out.
They should have called it the ultimate loudener !
Is it really that loud is it louder than OPS inc brake or apollo ultradyne or sjc titan cuz I really want it if it beats all 3 of those
Saying a .223 has recoil is like saying that a foam brick hurts when thrown at you...
So do they have one threaded 5/8-24? Obnoxious brake, meet Mk47! 🤣
yeah DEFINITELY need one in 458 Socom!
Should I use this on my home defense rifle? How is it indoors?
I NEED one for my 22 converted AR for sure
Just my personal opinion... brakes should not be used on a 5.56. No point. Give me a good flash hider instead.
Big bore & high power rifle without an auto cycling action to dampen recoil, like bolt action, lever, pump... sure, I want to see what it does with that.
needs a new name. The Anti-Suppressor! The Aggravator! The Boomer! The Delicate Fabric Muzzle device! The Barrel Bender!
Brandon wrote that description for the company
If it send sounds backwards, does it reduce the sound down range. Would it do it enough that it would be hard for someone down range to know where it is coming from?
How’s the shot grouping?
The Indoor range kicker-outer.
Apollo S Cyberdyne Brake on a 10.5” is quite awakening also. I moved it to a 16”. Much better. Gun sits perfectly still I must say. .22lr characteristics
Put it on my wife’s build. Ill post a short video
Lone Wulff makes a similar 9mm for pistol, works the best out of many, many that I have tried, but is also LOUD AS HELL, oh and a pain in the ass to clean, but makes my wife's CZ Shadow shoot like a .22
Is it louder than a regular ar pistol platform?
Fellow patrons at a public range will quickly love you.😅
So is there one for the AR10s
Do they build that in halves and weld them together?
Let’s just US Arms Co. makes some pretty interesting products. They want $250 for this break and then they also have a $530 lower receiver for the AR platform that just has a built in AR wedge to give a better lower to upper fit to improve accuracy. Literally the same thing that I have accomplished with a $3.50 rubber AR Wedge from Ergo grip. Lol. Idk just seems pointless to me to have a built in wedge for your lower cost $200-$400 depending on what lower your comparing it to. If you compare it to a $100 Aero Precision lower then it cost $450 more for the built in wedge. Hahaha
5:23 if you fired a fully automatic AR directly into the air would “The Brake” turn it into a jetpack? Like could you fly as long as you could keep firing?
Would hate to stand next to someone using this muzzle device.
That brake, in a match with structures or shooting through tunnels. No man, I believe you'd get your ass kicked for bringing something like that.
Great funny review!
Getting One For My .22 Recoil Issue.....
I gotta get one for my VEPR 54r
They need to add like a plate to the back that will block the gas, which may give a little recoil back, or not actually I don’t know. Just a flat or even curved back plate to reduce the blowback that comes right back at you. With the curve I think it would be great. Also not hard at all to add.
Hire me guys. 🤷🏻♂️
Now bring it to an indoor gun range
That's not how thisworks, that's not how any of this works. You're mistaken about the fluid dynamics. Yes individual airfoils function the way you explained. However those a stacked and close together. Only the first and last port change the gas velocity. The center ports have an increase on one surface and a decrease on the other surface. Both in the same port meaning they counteract and equalize.
"Can't handle larger caliber recoils, and is limited to smaller calibers"
*makes brake in 5.56*
5.56 is pretty small
@@VSO_Gun_Channel I know.
They make a brake to mitigate large caliber recoil, and put it on...a .22 in a larger case...
Tactical paddle. For guys who never get off the boat
I hope a marketer didn’t write that. Dishonor on them, their family, and their cow.
The Earplugs😂..🤙🏻
How about putting it on a 7.5" barrel and going to a indoor range.
I'm surprised that the word "happy" wasn't included in the description
Can’t wait to bring mine to the range 😂
Good find on the website that’s unreal they would advertise like that 😂
That product description. 😂 That has to be a joke!
Beware my platypus!
Hmmm, making me want to model an M119 muzzle brake. Wonder how well it would work.
I am a copywriter and that is indeed THE single worst ad copy I have ever read....and Ive read a lot
Check out the hypertap from precision armament
Why don't they put holes on the side of the barrel
I shot a ar with a Holed barrel
A 20 inch barrel
Had 200 holes on the side of the whole barrel
It probably get hot but ALOT of times u could use a forgrip so ur hands are off the barrel
It does look very cool
It's like the jp tank brake....nobody will time me when I use that thing.