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I love being Native American. I hunt and fish pretty much anywhere all year round. I only hunt what I eat. I don't take more than I need. Nature/Wildlife must be respected and protected.
On g4044 scugog crown land it says right now no fire pits and motorized vechiles,does that mean all year or does it change in the summer and spring? And can you hunt small game all year round? Like grousse and squirrels like that?
Nice informative video that I found VERY useful.... Another QUESTION: After finding a potential crownland camping area from the ministry atlas, and also figuring a road leading to the area - how do I know if I can park by the side of the road - if there is no obvious parking area? I am not sure if this question has been addressed by you earlier.
That’s a great question I see it come up a lot. I’m also planning on covering this in a Q&A: volume 2 video that I’m currently working on. There’s a couple things to consider. When parking to access a parcel of crownland. On logging/Forest access roads Finding a place safe place to park is definitely a challenge. In most circumstances, leaving your vehicle on the side of the road is perfectly acceptable assuming that you take all precautions to make sure the vehicle is not blocking the possible flow of traffic, or or visibility around a blind corner. In some circumstances where the crownland parcel is within a municipality wouldn’t be a bad idea to check out the municipalities website to see if they have any parking bylaws especially during the winter time.
Thanks so much for your useful video bro! I just noticed that many crown land has a posted sign saying that hunting is permitted but no target shooting allowed.i really confused with it. What If I just want do some target shooting without hunting?
Love the video, one question that gets me is, what are the rules for baiting on public land? Is it possible to plant seeds as long as I dont turnover the land/soil?
Thanks for checking out the video! A few days ago I was actually thinking the same thing. In a lot of the public forests in my area I’ve seen the typical corn feeders and apple piles for deer. The conservation areas that manage these lands seem to be on board with it, I’m sure however they’d object to someone turning out their own food plot, I’m not sure if I’d try seeding an area on those plots either. But, on Crown Land I could see seeding being ok, assuming it just a mix of native plants and wild flowers (might actually be beneficial to some areas) but I would definitely check with the MNRF and or a conservation officer before doing so. Some parcels of crown land are managed differently and more restrictive then others, so it could also depend on where you plan to do so as well.
I mean to ask you something else that I thought was important, at least to me. When you park your vehicle at whatever location to venture into the woods, what do you do with your vehicle? i am sure not to leave anythinv visible inside but do you leave some sort of notes on your dash as well? To be honest it is scary to leave your vehicle out of nowhere for those locations where you might want to hike deep in to the woods.
There’s no doubt it can be uneasy just parking your vehicle on the side of a dirt road or in a small woody pull off, only to have some slight hope in the back of your mind that people can still be decent humans. Thefts and mischief in they backcountry are rare, but it never hurts to do your best to make it not worth their time. Like you already guessed leaving nothing of value in view is key, best was to prevent any kind of theft, anywhere. Leaving a note with the timeframe, and a rough idea of where your headed is a great idea…especially if your going to be parked there for a longer period of time. That way police that may check on the vehicle will know why it’s there, and if your return happens to be overdue SAR can be notified. Another great thing to include is an imprint of your shoe. Simply place a towel down, lay a piece of foil on top of towel, then step on the foil with all your weight to leave a good impression of the shoe you will be wearing on your adventure. Don’t forget to include your children! Both of the above are extremely helpful if something happens and SAR needs to be called.
Thanks for the info. Is it true that city bylaws supersede crown land hunting rules. For instance Kwartha Highlands Provincial park during rifle hunting season one cannot use caliber bigger than 270 ? Where is such information?
Hunting regulations are set at a provincial level by the MNRF. Typically Municipal Governments have the responsibility to set where and when a firearm can be discharged (ie, city limits, No Sunday gun hunting). I looked at the kawartha highlands provincial park on both the atlas and Parks Canada website. I didn’t see anything about a calibre limit. Best thing to do would be to reach out to your local conservation officer/district mnrf office for confirmation.
When reading the policy use report for a section of crown land and it doesn’t say “camping permitted” ……can you still camp or does the policy report HAVE to say camping is permitted ??? Thanks in advance.
Camping on crown land falls under the “general recreation” category on the policy report. If general recreation is permitted, it usually ok to camp. Unfortunately if there is a closure of a individual campsite(s) it won’t be reflected in the atlas. The other categories that refer to camping are usually more talking about hunt camps (small leased usually less then 1 acres plots) or the possibility for a larger managed campground, like a future provincial or national park.
How does IHunter compare to Backroad Mapbooks? My biggest issue with BRMP is that quite often I see a nice forest road on their map which in real life does not exist. I do not know where they get their fake roads from. Thank you
Crownland is managed at a provincial level so the rules will vary somewhat per province. When it comes to rules for nonresidents as long as you’re Canadian citizen, crownland should free to use no matter what province you go to. When it comes to camping here in Ontario, nonresidents will have to purchase a permit from the MNRF. These permits are on a per night basis.
I only have one question or maybe two. If you answer thanks in advance. I'm currently camped out on crown land and I'm not finished up the work I'm doing (almost done) but ive got maybe a week more left of work. Ive almost used my 21 days. What if you stay longer than 21 days? Is there fines?
As per the public lands act, After 21 days, the person and camping equipment must move a minimum of 100 meters to another location. As for possible fines, According to the MNRF, failing to remove personal property from Crown land can constitute a maximum fine of $15,000, with an additional fine of $1,000 for each day the offence continues. If it’s a second offence, it can warrant up to a $25,000 fine. In all honesty I’ve never seen or heard of anyone receiving a fine close to the maximum. There’s no doubt that people abusing the 21 day rule is a got issue as of late, mainly due to people leaving their camper on a site for the entire summer. If you’re honest with your situation when approached by either a Conversation Officer or OOP Officer I’m sure they’ll understand and give you a chance to finish up the week or move by a certain date.
@thebackroadadventurer Oh man thanks for getting back to me. That's a big problem I'm definitely going to have to talk to my boss so we can figure out a new spot. Thanks for letting me know!
There isn't a rule or a law that I’m aware of on how long you can leave a site unattended. But if you are set up at a spot, attended or not, you only have 21 days, then you need to move. Going away for the day to tour around, explore, boat, fish/hunt is very common on crown land. It’s not uncommon to find a site unattended. Personally, I don’t like to do so, and if I do I set up a trail cam or two (depending on how remote I am). The real problem comes down to people that leave their trailers in a spot a week or more before they actually intend to use the site.
I believe that you can prospect without a permit (i.e; panning for gold). But, you need to acquire a prospectors license to stake any mineral rights on crown or private lands.
Coming from out east and planning on doing quite a bit of bushcraft/back country stuff in the upcoming years. Thanks for saving me a pile of digging through tedious government websites 🤙
Question. I think I found a good place to hunt deer with a rifle and it says general use area but theres a trail close by aswell.. does this mean it's ok to hunt there with permits? I want to do a hunting/camping trip but new to this. Any advice?
Typically general use areas allow hunting (in season and with tags) make sure to check the policy report to confirm. Alternatively you can check out the iHunter app, clicking on the parcel in the app will give you a summary of the policy report focusing on hunting, camping and related activities.
Typically target shooting is allowed on the majority of crown land with the exception of Crown Game Preserves (you can not even be in possession of a firearm on those parcels), but these will be clearly marked on the crown land atlas. Almost 100% of the time, if hunting is allow on that parcel, then target shooting is also allowed. Keep in mind that south of the French and Mattawa rivers some municipalities still have “no Sunday gun hunting” laws in effect, my understanding is that this also applies to discharging a firearm in general. Another thing to consider is that recently it seems that a small number of municipalities are also adding “no targeting shooting laws” but that seems to mainly be in response to residential areas being built near some very small parcels of crown land in Southern Ontario. It is probably going to take a bit of trial and error to find a parcel that’s actually going to be suitable and safe for target shooting.
No matter how far you venture into the bush....you'll always find a 90s Toyota corolla. But, in all seriousness there is no lack of places on crown land that are accessible via 2wd. its all about using what you've got and have the spirt of adventure!
Crown Land technically belongs to the monarch, who personifies the Crown. However, here in Ontario it managed at a provincial level by the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry (MNRF).
The act of hunting or fishing while trespassing on private property at the very minimum, could lead to the party being charged with trespassing under the criminal trespass act. Also, depends on the circumstances you run the risk of having any animal taken, firearms, related gear, your vehicle/atv/boat or trailer confiscated. Further charges could even lead to having your current (and possible future) hunting or fishing license revoked as well as a ban on ownership of firearms.
If you have found any of my videos helpful please consider supporting the channel by hitting the super tanks button, or check out memberships for some extra bonuses.
I love being Native American. I hunt and fish pretty much anywhere all year round. I only hunt what I eat. I don't take more than I need.
Nature/Wildlife must be respected and protected.
I just found your channel yesterday and have been Binge watching your videos. Thank you for posting! 😃
Glad you like them!
Tapping in from jamaica 🇯🇲 Moorlife from Toronto move to JA still miss Ontario Canada respect brother great information ❤ ur video
Dude, you rock!
Your channel is amazing. Its taken forever trying to sift through all this information online. Appreciate you sharing your experience
any camoing (tent) min southern Ontario? Around Kitchener?
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing!
Can you build a cabin on crown land
On g4044 scugog crown land it says right now no fire pits and motorized vechiles,does that mean all year or does it change in the summer and spring? And can you hunt small game all year round? Like grousse and squirrels like that?
I seen a bunch of Jeep’s this year in Mattawa/north bay. Didn’t know there trails were open in winter 👍
Nice informative video that I found VERY useful.... Another QUESTION: After finding a potential crownland camping area from the ministry atlas, and also figuring a road leading to the area - how do I know if I can park by the side of the road - if there is no obvious parking area? I am not sure if this question has been addressed by you earlier.
That’s a great question I see it come up a lot. I’m also planning on covering this in a
Q&A: volume 2 video that I’m currently working on.
There’s a couple things to consider. When parking to access a parcel of crownland. On logging/Forest access roads Finding a place safe place to park is definitely a challenge. In most circumstances, leaving your vehicle on the side of the road is perfectly acceptable assuming that you take all precautions to make sure the vehicle is not blocking the possible flow of traffic, or or visibility around a blind corner.
In some circumstances where the crownland parcel is within a municipality wouldn’t be a bad idea to check out the municipalities website to see if they have any parking bylaws especially during the winter time.
Thanks so much for your useful video bro!
I just noticed that many crown land has a posted sign saying that hunting is permitted but no target shooting allowed.i really confused with it. What If I just want do some target shooting without hunting?
Welcome to come by my property. Pay a fee and shoot as much as you'd like. I have target set up some static some moving all at varying distances
Love the video, one question that gets me is, what are the rules for baiting on public land? Is it possible to plant seeds as long as I dont turnover the land/soil?
Thanks for checking out the video! A few days ago I was actually thinking the same thing. In a lot of the public forests in my area I’ve seen the typical corn feeders and apple piles for deer. The conservation areas that manage these lands seem to be on board with it, I’m sure however they’d object to someone turning out their own food plot, I’m not sure if I’d try seeding an area on those plots either. But, on Crown Land I could see seeding being ok, assuming it just a mix of native plants and wild flowers (might actually be beneficial to some areas) but I would definitely check with the MNRF and or a conservation officer before doing so. Some parcels of crown land are managed differently and more restrictive then others, so it could also depend on where you plan to do so as well.
@@thebackroadadventurer just got an email from MNRF, you might need a permit to plant seeds and to contact "MNRF district office"
Thanks for taking my question man.
You bet
I mean to ask you something else that I thought was important, at least to me.
When you park your vehicle at whatever location to venture into the woods, what do you do with your vehicle? i am sure not to leave anythinv visible inside but do you leave some sort of notes on your dash as well? To be honest it is scary to leave your vehicle out of nowhere for those locations where you might want to hike deep in to the woods.
There’s no doubt it can be uneasy just parking your vehicle on the side of a dirt road or in a small woody pull off, only to have some slight hope in the back of your mind that people can still be decent humans. Thefts and mischief in they backcountry are rare, but it never hurts to do your best to make it not worth their time. Like you already guessed leaving nothing of value in view is key, best was to prevent any kind of theft, anywhere.
Leaving a note with the timeframe, and a rough idea of where your headed is a great idea…especially if your going to be parked there for a longer period of time. That way police that may check on the vehicle will know why it’s there, and if your return happens to be overdue SAR can be notified. Another great thing to include is an imprint of your shoe. Simply place a towel down, lay a piece of foil on top of towel, then step on the foil with all your weight to leave a good impression of the shoe you will be wearing on your adventure. Don’t forget to include your children! Both of the above are extremely helpful if something happens and SAR needs to be called.
@@thebackroadadventurer thanks man... I found my answer here... great tips.
I plan to do some scouting/hunting for turkey this fall. How do you know which areas require an OFAH membership?
That's one big fluffy turkey! 😹
Thanks for the info. Is it true that city bylaws supersede crown land hunting rules. For instance Kwartha Highlands Provincial park during rifle hunting season one cannot use caliber bigger than 270 ? Where is such information?
Hunting regulations are set at a provincial level by the MNRF. Typically Municipal Governments have the responsibility to set where and when a firearm can be discharged (ie, city limits, No Sunday gun hunting). I looked at the kawartha highlands provincial park on both the atlas and Parks Canada website. I didn’t see anything about a calibre limit. Best thing to do would be to reach out to your local conservation officer/district mnrf office for confirmation.
I think I saw your truck with a white Subaru in Orilla 3 week ago.
thanks
You're welcome!
How do you determine the boundaries of crown land
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
When reading the policy use report for a section of crown land and it doesn’t say “camping permitted” ……can you still camp or does the policy report HAVE to say camping is permitted ??? Thanks in advance.
Camping on crown land falls under the “general recreation” category on the policy report. If general recreation is permitted, it usually ok to camp. Unfortunately if there is a closure of a individual campsite(s) it won’t be reflected in the atlas. The other categories that refer to camping are usually more talking about hunt camps (small leased usually less then 1 acres plots) or the possibility for a larger managed campground, like a future provincial or national park.
Many thanks… 👍 🇨🇦
How does IHunter compare to Backroad Mapbooks? My biggest issue with BRMP is that quite often I see a nice forest road on their map which in real life does not exist. I do not know where they get their fake roads from. Thank you
Great useful info 🤙
Glad you liked it
Do crown land rules differ in the different providences? What are the rules for nonresidents?
Crownland is managed at a provincial level so the rules will vary somewhat per province. When it comes to rules for nonresidents as long as you’re Canadian citizen, crownland should free to use no matter what province you go to. When it comes to camping here in Ontario, nonresidents will have to purchase a permit from the MNRF. These permits are on a per night basis.
I only have one question or maybe two. If you answer thanks in advance. I'm currently camped out on crown land and I'm not finished up the work I'm doing (almost done) but ive got maybe a week more left of work. Ive almost used my 21 days. What if you stay longer than 21 days? Is there fines?
As per the public lands act, After 21 days, the person and camping equipment must move a minimum of 100 meters to another location. As for possible fines, According to the MNRF, failing to remove personal property from Crown land can constitute a maximum fine of $15,000, with an additional fine of $1,000 for each day the offence continues. If it’s a second offence, it can warrant up to a $25,000 fine. In all honesty I’ve never seen or heard of anyone receiving a fine close to the maximum. There’s no doubt that people abusing the 21 day rule is a got issue as of late, mainly due to people leaving their camper on a site for the entire summer. If you’re honest with your situation when approached by either a Conversation Officer or OOP Officer I’m sure they’ll understand and give you a chance to finish up the week or move by a certain date.
@thebackroadadventurer Oh man thanks for getting back to me. That's a big problem I'm definitely going to have to talk to my boss so we can figure out a new spot. Thanks for letting me know!
how long can u leave your campsite unatteded on crown land
There isn't a rule or a law that I’m aware of on how long you can leave a site unattended. But if you are set up at a spot, attended or not, you only have 21 days, then you need to move. Going away for the day to tour around, explore, boat, fish/hunt is very common on crown land. It’s not uncommon to find a site unattended. Personally, I don’t like to do so, and if I do I set up a trail cam or two (depending on how remote I am). The real problem comes down to people that leave their trailers in a spot a week or more before they actually intend to use the site.
Can I prospect on crown land with out a permit of any kind ?
I believe that you can prospect without a permit (i.e; panning for gold). But, you need to acquire a prospectors license to stake any mineral rights on crown or private lands.
Coming from out east and planning on doing quite a bit of bushcraft/back country stuff in the upcoming years.
Thanks for saving me a pile of digging through tedious government websites 🤙
Glad to help!
Question. I think I found a good place to hunt deer with a rifle and it says general use area but theres a trail close by aswell.. does this mean it's ok to hunt there with permits? I want to do a hunting/camping trip but new to this. Any advice?
Typically general use areas allow hunting (in season and with tags) make sure to check the policy report to confirm. Alternatively you can check out the iHunter app, clicking on the parcel in the app will give you a summary of the policy report focusing on hunting, camping and related activities.
@Ontario Overland ok cool would this apply to doing target shooting out there aswell?
Typically target shooting is allowed on the majority of crown land with the exception of Crown Game Preserves (you can not even be in possession of a firearm on those parcels), but these will be clearly marked on the crown land atlas. Almost 100% of the time, if hunting is allow on that parcel, then target shooting is also allowed. Keep in mind that south of the French and Mattawa rivers some municipalities still have “no Sunday gun hunting” laws in effect, my understanding is that this also applies to discharging a firearm in general. Another thing to consider is that recently it seems that a small number of municipalities are also adding “no targeting shooting laws” but that seems to mainly be in response to residential areas being built near some very small parcels of crown land in Southern Ontario. It is probably going to take a bit of trial and error to find a parcel that’s actually going to be suitable and safe for target shooting.
Darn, no fun with my front wheel drive sedan?
No matter how far you venture into the bush....you'll always find a 90s Toyota corolla. But, in all seriousness there is no lack of places on crown land that are accessible via 2wd. its all about using what you've got and have the spirt of adventure!
hi .who is the CROWN ?
Crown Land technically belongs to the monarch, who personifies the Crown. However, here in Ontario it managed at a provincial level by the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry (MNRF).
Without permission if you hunting or fishing on private property what happened
The act of hunting or fishing while trespassing on private property at the very minimum, could lead to the party being charged with trespassing under the criminal trespass act. Also, depends on the circumstances you run the risk of having any animal taken, firearms, related gear, your vehicle/atv/boat or trailer confiscated. Further charges could even lead to having your current (and possible future) hunting or fishing license revoked as well as a ban on ownership of firearms.