We are all "winners" for this one. Especially us 40-something-year-olds (I'm 47) that had these cars back in the day. I had a black 91' Civic Si hatchback, a black 90' integra hatchback, a maroon 87' Civic Si hatchback, and a 81" accord hatchback was my first car. All these cars were stick shift of course.
I had K series 93 Civic Si , 92 Civic Si with an amazing B16B .Should have kept both of them .( I am 60 ) . I just bought a V8 Miata and it is nuts . Not selling this one .
i'm 37 i had a milano red '99 Civic SI EM1 in about '06 but unfortunately it wasn't long lived. I got rear ended right after i put a few mods on n it was totaled out with 27k on the ODM. I wish i could get my hands on a nice "affordable" EG
For me, the EF is the winner. It’s the better looking, and definately better sounding car. But let’s be honest, both cars are great, this build was such a treat! Thanks, Speed Academy🙏🏻
both of these builds are so proper. thank you so much PT and DP for brining us this series. the attention to detail in all phases was very apparent. I hope the YT algorithm gives you the rewards you deserve.
I'm just sorting the rust out on mine at the moment. The cowl panels are spot welded together in bare steel, sealed, then painted/dipped. The sealant holds moisture and eventually gets to the bare steel inbetween the spot welds. I've checked 7 civics so far and they've all had rust in the same spot, whether it be EJ1 EG4 EG6 EG8 EG9.. Just a heads up if you do want to get another.
LOVE this track battle film! You guys have built 2 legendary 80s/90s era Hondas and proven them straight-up on track. Altho these types of films don't get as many views thank you for sticking to your built for street and track principles! Great driving guys
Had an EG with B18 type-r engine & torsen, what a sweet memory of 9400rpm red line... But my EFs with D16A9 DOHC were cool too even with less power, the fun was still there.
Awesome video guys, thank you!! I love how you implimented the "touge' chase/follow format and also swap cars and drivers at the end - which allowed the other driver to share their input and feedback. Love that guys! This is why you guys are legit "Speed Academy" (throwing back to the "a$$2000" to "bada$$2000" content days). Thanks again guys - love ya'll!
B16B in both cars and run it back! I think with a little more time put into the EF's suspension, it would've killed the EG. This series was such a treat to watch, great job boys!
B16 w/ S1 trans in my EF was REALLY fun! Gearing of S1 was comically short but a blast just to drive around town. Plus JDM ECU was still speed limited to 112mph and that was just enough at my local road course long straight. Car is no longer swapped and now just enjoying that 40mpg life with the nimble lightweight driving feel.
Being an older honda head the EF has my heart as I absolutely love these machines and the platform itself. In the same token the Eg is a beast itself in the performance department between both builds. Best thing about both of theses chassis is they have timeless good looks and never look as old as they are!
EF for me, since I owned a white 91 Si as my first car back in 2001. Was so excited to drive it, I went to the garage where it was waiting to get safetied, at night and “borrowed” it so I could practice driving manual. Put two different plates on it because one of my moms plates wouldn’t come off so I “borrowed” my neighbours 😅 Drove to the beach at like 3am, got pulled over and a $6000 fine for no insurance/plates etc 😂😂😂 Good times, good times.
LLLEEETTTTTSSS GOOOOOO!!!!!!!! So stoked for this showdown! Loved this build series, all of this is very relatable for most enthusiasts from budget to goals and obviously car choices
Guys! Another KILLER series! Loved both builds, especially the old-school nature of the EF... But, I gotta say, the torque of the EG was just too good! I wish I could buy one of these beauties, but I'm confident whoever does buy them will be getting some truly awesome machines!
For me, the screaming high RPM VTEC motors are just more fun to whip around. The old Top Gear hosts said it best - something along the lines of "you can push a slow car to it's limit on public roads, but you can't really enjoy a fast car outside a race track".
I have been watching your channel since I was in college in the States, then back to my home country, and now in TO. Where I realized that you in Canada blew my mind! You have great taste in wheels, tail lights/headlights/bumper replacements. Continental tires are awesome too I have on my car. Hard to choose between the two. I guess I would go with the EF the way you built it. Have an awesome day.
Rad build fellas!!! I loved this series as the EF build reminds me a lot of my old 1.6 200SX shitbox project. 250WHP and 220WTQ 2125 lbs; there is just something right about that power to weight..... Keep up the awesome work!
Hello from Connecticut! A bit of a sponsor shoutout - after hearing all of your praises of the Conti ECS 02s, I recently installed a set on my car. They’re awesome. Looking forward to learning their limits during autox this summer.
I love them both equally from a body style perspective but I think the EG with the B16 would be my ideal golden era Honda. This has been a great series!
It's insane to me how much nostalgia effects my brain - that EG Civic is the bee's knees and I'd take it over any car from the last 10 years, just based on fun per dollar
Track day hype!!!! For me, the EG with a turbo vtec motor. Although it would be a lot more violent once boost and TEC comes on, it's so much fun. Drove a b18c5 turbo motor a few times and it was an awesome experience.
Back again for another Saturday morning episode of SA!!! If Dave put a turbo on that VTEC monster, he would give Pete a run for his money! Either or... these 2 retro Hondas were GREAT builds! Well done guys! 🤝
As fun as the type r b series are. The long gearing and almost perfect hp are hard to pass on. My fav setup is a f23 or f20 with the ls trans. Easy to pull alot of rotating mass and make over 220whp. Stock turbo d series vtec is always amazing. The type r just feels slow these days. Great for learning power management in road racing the motor is stout.
I had the opportunity to own both Si but the EF does win my heart. Nonetheless, both were executed very clean and nice. Great series Speed Academy. Always look forward to my Saturdays
Eg for me! I love the logic of the motor choice with a turbo setup. Don’t have to feel guilty about blowing it up and swapping another one in. Just a more simple route compared to a k swap as well.
I am happy y'all are happy because I love this channel and have watched every episode since you first cut the cage out of the FRS, but please, no more Hondas for a while. I can only watch so much Honda content in a row ha
Great build and really enjoyed. I love the EF and B series Vtec sound but that EG is really nice. I still have my 88 EF with JRSC D16 and 87 CRX with GSR from 93 integra and will die owning them as they are both so much fun to drive. There are of lot faster cars now but i enjoy these cars so much. i have driven Evo, Z06 Corvettes and Porsches but i love the analog feel of both cars even in my 50's.
NA, sky-high redline vs torquey and powerful turbo. The EG wins for me but the EF is still so cool. This is a battle of choosing between your two favorite foods. Aint no real losing here.
i own an EG B engine vtec turbo that i want to try on the track this year so i would have to say for me it is EG all the way, but we have to remember that the EG is what it is because of the EF i really like what you are doing guys,
These builds were awesome! I own a 90 ED6 with a B18A1 and i have a B20V (B20 block GSR head with type-r cams) that will be going in soon. Y'all got me re thinking my goals. That turbo life looks too good! Also, my shoes have Continental soles as well, Adidas Terrex.
I'm an EF guy. Had 3 of them. I like EG sedans more than hatches. Currently race an EF with a 230whp b20v. I think the EF with more power and torque would have put up a better fight. Loved the video series though.
I wonder how it would drive with today's sticky tires. I had so much fun back in 90's with EG and EF civic. Lightness with double wish born type suspension geometry at all four corner. With this much power, it would be so fun for sure!
Favorite build by a tad bit over the BMW wagon. I’d autocross the EF and flog it like I stole it. Watching you, Gears & Gasoline, Demuro made me think a weekend build battle reality show style competition between UA-cam car channels would be a fun watch.
As an owner of two EF Civics, the EG is my choice from these two builds. I’m not a fan of turbo cars, but Pete built a proper turbo Civic that is manageable, yet fast
We are all "winners" for this one. Especially us 40-something-year-olds (I'm 47) that had these cars back in the day. I had a black 91' Civic Si hatchback, a black 90' integra hatchback, a maroon 87' Civic Si hatchback, and a 81" accord hatchback was my first car. All these cars were stick shift of course.
I just turned 40 and I have to say, this build series was made for me. In my glory years feelings.
87 si and 89 dx with mpfi swap (5hp) 😂
I had K series 93 Civic Si , 92 Civic Si with an amazing B16B .Should have kept both of them .( I am 60 ) . I just bought a V8 Miata and it is nuts . Not selling this one .
i'm 37 i had a milano red '99 Civic SI EM1 in about '06 but unfortunately it wasn't long lived. I got rear ended right after i put a few mods on n it was totaled out with 27k on the ODM. I wish i could get my hands on a nice "affordable" EG
Im 42 and rolling in a 2018 Civic Si 6 -speed :)
For me, the EF is the winner. It’s the better looking, and definately better sounding car. But let’s be honest, both cars are great, this build was such a treat! Thanks, Speed Academy🙏🏻
EF looks like a literal box with wheels... lmao
In every way especially the looks department EG>EF all day!!
@@xRockee Which was a popular look in the 80s.
Some people really like the sharp angles. (I'm one of those people)
100%. EF looks amazing, you must be an old guy like me :)
@@snupermoto723 is 42 considered “old”? 🤣
That EF just nails that golden era Honda to the T.
Back in the 2000s, I had an EG, and my wife had an EF, that makes this series sweeter for me.
Both those cars are so clean, but it's the EG for me. Might be my favorite hatch chassis ever
Senna helped develop the CRX….
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS Senna never drove a 230 hp Group A EG6
Car-toons on a saturday morning with two Hondas and a track battle!
Thank you speed academy!
Car-Tunes❤
The style and lightness of the EF will forever hold a special place in my heart. AutoXed and tracked one for many years.
If I could give you 2 thumbs up I would.
The EG got me, and I have only ever owned EF'S.
Great builds!
Do you only have one hand? 😮😅
@@rhubarbpie2027 lol! Well, I do have 2 hands, so I can give 2 thumbs, but only 1 like! Well played!
@@Busydadgarage717 😁 never know with the internet and tech advancementz for those who are differently-abled. Cheers!
both of these builds are so proper. thank you so much PT and DP for brining us this series. the attention to detail in all phases was very apparent. I hope the YT algorithm gives you the rewards you deserve.
Watching the tach needle in the EF reach for the steering wheel hub at the top end of each gear is gold. NA B is an absolute symphony!
I miss my EG. I had one w/ a B16A swap. Was so fun revving to 8000. Maybe I’ll get back into one.
I'm just sorting the rust out on mine at the moment. The cowl panels are spot welded together in bare steel, sealed, then painted/dipped. The sealant holds moisture and eventually gets to the bare steel inbetween the spot welds. I've checked 7 civics so far and they've all had rust in the same spot, whether it be EJ1 EG4 EG6 EG8 EG9.. Just a heads up if you do want to get another.
Saturday morning Car-toons. Love the track action.
Man that turbo EG is hot. But which am I putting in my garage? Vtec EF! It just has this aura around it and it's cool! The Egg will go on no doubt.
LOVE this track battle film! You guys have built 2 legendary 80s/90s era Hondas and proven them straight-up on track. Altho these types of films don't get as many views thank you for sticking to your built for street and track principles! Great driving guys
I grew up in a 1991 civic si hatchback, that’s the car that started everything for me. EF ❤!
I've missed these kinds of videos so much! This is what makes Speed Academy special. Love it!
(EG all the way for me)
Had an EG with B18 type-r engine & torsen, what a sweet memory of 9400rpm red line... But my EFs with D16A9 DOHC were cool too even with less power, the fun was still there.
This whole series was so cool. That EF made me emotional. My first car was a 1990 Si that looked damn near identical. I miss it every day!
👏 Applause for taking them to the track and showing they are functional builds and not just ornaments.
Awesome video guys, thank you!! I love how you implimented the "touge' chase/follow format and also swap cars and drivers at the end - which allowed the other driver to share their input and feedback. Love that guys! This is why you guys are legit "Speed Academy" (throwing back to the "a$$2000" to "bada$$2000" content days). Thanks again guys - love ya'll!
B16B in both cars and run it back!
I think with a little more time put into the EF's suspension, it would've killed the EG.
This series was such a treat to watch, great job boys!
That ef interior brings back so many memories for me. I loved my si.
B16 w/ S1 trans in my EF was REALLY fun! Gearing of S1 was comically short but a blast just to drive around town. Plus JDM ECU was still speed limited to 112mph and that was just enough at my local road course long straight. Car is no longer swapped and now just enjoying that 40mpg life with the nimble lightweight driving feel.
One of the best YT channels! Having owned both, the EG for me is the winner.
I owned a ‘90 EF(first car) and later a ‘96 EK. Hatches still hold a special place for me. Loved this series. Keep up the good work.
Being an older honda head the EF has my heart as I absolutely love these machines and the platform itself. In the same token the Eg is a beast itself in the performance department between both builds.
Best thing about both of theses chassis is they have timeless good looks and never look as old as they are!
That n/a ripper is just too good
EF for me, since I owned a white 91 Si as my first car back in 2001. Was so excited to drive it, I went to the garage where it was waiting to get safetied, at night and “borrowed” it so I could practice driving manual. Put two different plates on it because one of my moms plates wouldn’t come off so I “borrowed” my neighbours 😅 Drove to the beach at like 3am, got pulled over and a $6000 fine for no insurance/plates etc 😂😂😂 Good times, good times.
Pete trying to show us the beautiful EF sound down the straight and brother wouldn't stop talking 😂
LLLEEETTTTTSSS GOOOOOO!!!!!!!! So stoked for this showdown! Loved this build series, all of this is very relatable for most enthusiasts from budget to goals and obviously car choices
Such an amazing build off, please more golden Era Honda’s 🙏 fantastic to see these come together.
Guys! Another KILLER series! Loved both builds, especially the old-school nature of the EF... But, I gotta say, the torque of the EG was just too good! I wish I could buy one of these beauties, but I'm confident whoever does buy them will be getting some truly awesome machines!
Both of these are absolute gems. Excellent video.
It's all about the raw power of the B series. VTEC or not.
For me, the screaming high RPM VTEC motors are just more fun to whip around. The old Top Gear hosts said it best - something along the lines of "you can push a slow car to it's limit on public roads, but you can't really enjoy a fast car outside a race track".
I have been watching your channel since I was in college in the States, then back to my home country, and now in TO. Where I realized that you in Canada blew my mind! You have great taste in wheels, tail lights/headlights/bumper replacements. Continental tires are awesome too I have on my car. Hard to choose between the two. I guess I would go with the EF the way you built it. Have an awesome day.
continental is smart for sponsoring you guys! you guys are the reason i get their tires 🤟
Finally been waiting to see those cars on track for so long. Incredible series guys.
Rad build fellas!!! I loved this series as the EF build reminds me a lot of my old 1.6 200SX shitbox project. 250WHP and 220WTQ 2125 lbs; there is just something right about that power to weight..... Keep up the awesome work!
Gotta give the win to PT. It’s just faster everywhere and not unruly. DP also has some valve stem seals to change. 😂
Hello from Connecticut! A bit of a sponsor shoutout - after hearing all of your praises of the Conti ECS 02s, I recently installed a set on my car. They’re awesome. Looking forward to learning their limits during autox this summer.
Love the track battles! Great video guys.
Another amazing build series! I can't wait to see whats to come.
If I had both I’d fix the ergonomics of the ef and find myself driving it more. That sound is just so satisfying.
that speed academy jacket is SICK
As an ef8 owner myself im a little biased toward the ef😂 but i really like both , it was a very good series guy’s … keep up the incredible work😊
Great job guys!! Cleanest Civics around.. well executed build on both platforms!!!
Nice to see you guys back at the track, love both cars 🤩
My favorite channel on YT hands down!
Been watching for 8 ish years now. Awesome stuff
Pete built the perfect budget turbo EG. Dave has the safe/seat time chariot. I love both of them, I hope to see y’all at gridlife fest.
I love them both equally from a body style perspective but I think the EG with the B16 would be my ideal golden era Honda. This has been a great series!
The roll race videos bring back so many memories. From Mexico, of course.
Ill take both, please! What a fantastic series. Thank you Speed Academy!!
Just bought some Continental DSW6’s for my ride this week…thanks guys!
It's insane to me how much nostalgia effects my brain - that EG Civic is the bee's knees and I'd take it over any car from the last 10 years, just based on fun per dollar
Best Motoring International from Canada 😅
That EF is absolutely freaking perfect in every way 🤌
Coming from an integra type r, Id love to take these two civics out on the track. Nice work guys youre building legends!
Great video! Thanks a lot guys! Keep doing so well!
Awesome series, awesome channel. You guys are mind readers when it comes to the types of platforms I love to see :-)
happy to see you guys back on the track!
Amazing builds. Two beauties. Love em both
Track day hype!!!! For me, the EG with a turbo vtec motor. Although it would be a lot more violent once boost and TEC comes on, it's so much fun. Drove a b18c5 turbo motor a few times and it was an awesome experience.
Great job with an awesome Canadian shop and UA-cam channel.
This is great. Makes me miss my Hondas, I’d like to build a turbo EK after watching this. There’s just something about them.
Back again for another Saturday morning episode of SA!!! If Dave put a turbo on that VTEC monster, he would give Pete a run for his money! Either or... these 2 retro Hondas were GREAT builds! Well done guys! 🤝
The eg/dc integra are the best of both worlds. 90's is the golden era of many car manufacturers (imo) ✌️😎
Great video guys love the track on all your guys hard work pays off ! Keep up the great videos
Good job guys! Love my EF and really enjoyed this series!!!😊
As fun as the type r b series are. The long gearing and almost perfect hp are hard to pass on. My fav setup is a f23 or f20 with the ls trans. Easy to pull alot of rotating mass and make over 220whp. Stock turbo d series vtec is always amazing. The type r just feels slow these days. Great for learning power management in road racing the motor is stout.
I had the opportunity to own both Si but the EF does win my heart. Nonetheless, both were executed very clean and nice. Great series Speed Academy. Always look forward to my Saturdays
Eg for me! I love the logic of the motor choice with a turbo setup. Don’t have to feel guilty about blowing it up and swapping another one in. Just a more simple route compared to a k swap as well.
On a shorter twisty track, that EF would shine. The suspension looked like it needed a bit more dialing in too. Great video!
I’m a EF all day but mannn!! The eg hatch on point both cars are perfect. Now the EF vs the ITR!!!
I am happy y'all are happy because I love this channel and have watched every episode since you first cut the cage out of the FRS, but please, no more Hondas for a while. I can only watch so much Honda content in a row ha
Need a prelude vs integra build off or a mrs spyder vs celica gts build off.
Or a s70 t5 vs saab v6 build off 😮 something we dont see ever 🤔
Great build and really enjoyed. I love the EF and B series Vtec sound but that EG is really nice. I still have my 88 EF with JRSC D16 and 87 CRX with GSR from 93 integra and will die owning them as they are both so much fun to drive. There are of lot faster cars now but i enjoy these cars so much. i have driven Evo, Z06 Corvettes and Porsches but i love the analog feel of both cars even in my 50's.
God I love the classic Honda builds! Thankyou again for a great versus! @speedacademy Pete and Dave!
Best part about both of these cars? The windows are large enough you can actually see the world outside of them.
Class. Great builds . Brings back memories of teens.
The EF always
For me, ef sedan, eg hatch, ek coupe. but honestly all the golden era hondas are amazing in their own way.
NA, sky-high redline vs torquey and powerful turbo. The EG wins for me but the EF is still so cool.
This is a battle of choosing between your two favorite foods. Aint no real losing here.
i own an EG B engine vtec turbo that i want to try on the track this year so i would have to say for me it is EG all the way, but we have to remember that the EG is what it is because of the EF
i really like what you are doing guys,
EG, always and forever. Every single track car I've owned, has been an EG. Plus the Denji's just put the cherry on top!
Awesome fun! EG has it for me too, but it needs a vtec head and another 1500 rpms!
Love both of them I am a Honda fan boy but EG 😅
Very much needed episode on a Saturday morning.
Loved this series! Cant wait for more honda vids
Love this content absolutely love it! But everybody knows the sweet spot is putting both builds together. Vtec +turbo=:o
I think you two just convinced me to turbo the B20. And I’m not mad.
been watching since before the rebrand, love the content !! keep on
Amazing work guys!
These builds were awesome! I own a 90 ED6 with a B18A1 and i have a B20V (B20 block GSR head with type-r cams) that will be going in soon. Y'all got me re thinking my goals. That turbo life looks too good!
Also, my shoes have Continental soles as well, Adidas Terrex.
I'm an EF guy. Had 3 of them. I like EG sedans more than hatches. Currently race an EF with a 230whp b20v. I think the EF with more power and torque would have put up a better fight. Loved the video series though.
I wonder how it would drive with today's sticky tires. I had so much fun back in 90's with EG and EF civic. Lightness with double wish born type suspension geometry at all four corner. With this much power, it would be so fun for sure!
Favorite build by a tad bit over the BMW wagon. I’d autocross the EF and flog it like I stole it. Watching you, Gears & Gasoline, Demuro made me think a weekend build battle reality show style competition between UA-cam car channels would be a fun watch.
Flyby on the Ef hatch sounds so good👍🏽Gotta love VTEC
As an owner of two EF Civics, the EG is my choice from these two builds. I’m not a fan of turbo cars, but Pete built a proper turbo Civic that is manageable, yet fast