10 years ago, I had a massive single exposure to black mold and as a result, became really sick for a few weeks. I did a lot of discharging and regulating my system but never completely recovered. Over the course of about a year, I developed a whole host of symptoms, like sleep apnea, unresolving weight gain, elevated cholesterol, GERDs, and generalized autoomic dysregulation. I eventually realized it was a mold issue, and used a mold clearing regimen for a few months to get back to normal. I was eventually able to resolve everything with a combination of SE, keto/fasting and specific supplements to absorb the biotoxins and replenish key nutrients that are depleted by metabolic stress. Glutathione was a miracle supplement at that time. My biggest and most fascinating takeaway from that whole ordeal, was that my body seemed to experience the mold and biotoxins as a sort of victimizing invasion. I just had this unexplainable sense of victimization that gradually dissipated as I rid my body of the mold. I think it's entirely possible that my body was experiencing its infiltration and colonization by the fungus, similary to the emotional victimization that someone experiences from a home invasion. Interestingly, there are many patients with chronic mold issues who never fully resolve their symptoms. Even with intensive treatment protocols, they never fully recover, or the mold consistently returns. The traditonal theory among mold specialists involves biofilms that allow fugus to forever remain lurking in the body. But I've actually come to conceptualize it as a much more fundamental issue of nervous system dysregulation. I believe that our unresolved emotional reactivity actually facilitates the existence of fungus and pathogens itself. In other words, many people who struggle with recalcitrant mold issues are ultimately dealing with unresolved psycho-emotional distress. Once they resolve the psycho-emotional distress, their metabolic profile has a chance to return to normal. This is because our psycho-emotional state is a metabolic profile. Our metabolic profile precipitates and facilitates the presence or absence of our microbiome. All the research illustrates this.
Wow! I can't imagine the amount of work it must have taken for you to deal with that situation and come to that understanding. It's hard to imagine that most of us haven't had mould exposure sometime in our lives.
@Pedro Norman, there's so much light and understanding in your comment. What you share goes in conjunction with what researcher Dr. Issac Eliiaz talks aboit. It's a whole cycle and in order to heal from mold/mycotoxin exposure it has to be looked at from a holistic perspective of body, mind & spirit. Thank you for sharing this view.
My friend moved into a different home and ended up in emergency room with red eyes, swollen lips, fatigue pain etc they couldnt figure out why until they found crazy amount of mold behind the walls. She had zero anxiety depression or nervous system issues. Her husband and kids didnt have any symptoms. She moved out until the mold was cleared and room was completely redone. This is a primary example of mold exposure despite nervous system dysregulation
This was useful to me because I’ve been ivertixified and down the past 20 years trying to figure out that breast implants, a gorgeous condo with mold, infections, operations, and MUCH more including money, friends and family, and now lyme and incredible stress and violence, which I am trying to remove from my house (ex and son who have mold in their home)… but almost 3 years is quite enough❣️🙏
Hey Liz A, Jen here from Team Lyon. To make sure I understand your question, are you wondering if people may experience symptoms and have a hard time with the effects of mold due to nervous system dysregulation?
@@liz.a314, Jen here again. Someone added a comment this week that made me realize I never saw your reply - sorry about that! Yes, it does sound like a both and, as you said. Some people are predisposed genetically to things like sensitivity to mold, and then when we live with nervous system dysregulation over time any or all of our physiological systems can become impaired - including our immune function and detoxification pathways.
I’ve been forced out of my apartment due to mold and am in recovery after breathing and cognition issues. I just found your channel and am grateful for your resources
How can I figure out what cleaning products will be non-toxic but ALSO actually clean my living spaces effectively? I’ve tried some green products and have gone back (unwillingly) to some of my previous chemical-laden options at some points just because I was missing an effective clean/disinfecting… without spending money to try and trial-and-error my way through (kinda really too poor for that), is there any way I can just know what to use?
For many years, I was told that my sensitivity with toxic smells like perfume and other chemical scents, is a sign that my liver is not healthy, and also that my adrenals are fatigued, by several naturopaths. I don't have any anxiety, panic attacks, etc or any other physical symptoms that show up when I smell these toxic things, but I just hate it so much, and I'm always the first one to notice these chemical scents. So I'm definitely NOT numbed by these toxic scents. However, I do have a nervous system dysregulation (I have anxiety and other physical symptoms , not related to toxins and scents), and currently taking a second round of Smart Body Smart Mind. So I wonder if my hypersensitivity to toxic scents (without making me sick in any way) may be a sign of toxic build up in the liver and adrenal issues, rather than the other way round - which is that I'm able to sense what's toxic because my nervous system is regulated (which mine is not, however). Or I wonder if I just have this hypersensitivity simply because my life style is very clean, and when I smell chemicals, my body appropriately reacts to the scents, even if I do have nervous system issues in many other ways.
Hi Aiko Shimada, Jen here from Team Lyon. You mentioned that you wonder if your hypersensitive is due to your clean lifestyle. It could be, and one place to look for clues is to look at when and how your sensitivity started. You can also continue to be curious about if your sensitivity changes in any way as your regulation grows.
I’m wondering is the alpha stim device enough to regulate the nervous system while using a brain training program? or should I be adding some sort of somatic?
HI alina roshberg, Jen here from Team Lyon. Interventions such a the alpha stem device, brain training program, Safe & Sound protocol, and the like can be helpful for many people (some have neutral or adverse responses). At the same time, they don't typically grow foundational nervous system regulation in the way that this work can. You might check out Irene's free Healing Trauma training to a better understanding of why this is the case. I'll also link to one of her free resources and to her starter (paid) self-study course, the 21 Day Tune Up in case you'd like to learn more. Free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma 7 Steps to De-Stress - irenelyon.com/7-steps-opt-in-IL The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com
Hi D K, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm not clear about what you're asking. Are you asking if this type of fungal infection can be dysregulating to the nervous system?
I have this trapped survival fight for flight energy stuck in my chest, neck and stomach i just cant seem to release. That comes always come back. I do your your audio excerisises to feel the uncomfortable sensations i feel calmer and more relaxed for a couple hours and always comes back. It do some orienting and feel my body as well as feel the uncomfortable sensation. Its hard to connect to. But the sensations keep coming back always. I tried for months to release but they come back hours later. Neck/shoulder tension Fluttery tight anxiety in my chest, nervous fear in my stomach. What can i do? I just cant seem to release it.
Hey I have that problem too! Check out Trauma release exercises or TRE. I let go of tremendous amounts of chronic tension after doing it maybe five times. It's just a series of hold poses that tire out your psoas muscles that strangely creates an involuntary shaking in your legs. Something to do with the brain stem. It made old memories come up that I wasn't expecting which was fascinating. I also cried my eyes out. I saw an osteopath once or twice for my neck and general tension relief. That combination cured me for two years!! Then my mom got terminal cancer and I had drive across Canada to look after her at home. Since then some of my issues are back (but not as bad). But with TRE and another osteo visit I believe I can get on top of it again. I am just a big procrastinator. Here is a video I follow. The editing isn't great, it repeats a bit in the third part: ua-cam.com/video/U5qYyfWN8Kg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Dragon
Try trauma release exercises :) just look it up on UA-cam. Also I've noticed if you have a highly sensitive nervous system (I do) you have to have an extremely regimented lifestyle. Daily meditation, exercise, sunlight, only healthy food, low/ no social media use, media diet regimen, etc etc.
Goodmorning Irene, I would love to know what your thoughts are about sugar in relation to the nervoussystem. I consider sugar as a toxic as well and still I eat it more than I should. I am learning about the nervous system and I am learning to regulate (with the help of a great coach) and are curious if there's a relation between sugar and the (disregulated) nervous system. I recently found out that I've spend most of my life in the dorsal state (starting from being within the uterus) and am learning and practicing to build a healthy nervous system. I know and feel that sugar is not good for my body (I am getting on weight which physically and mentally doesn't feel comfortable) and still I can't resist it. I often choose short-term satisfaction above long term health. I think it has an influence on my ability to regulate proper and want to stop this unhealthy and sabotaging pattern. I would appreciate your view on the relation between sugar and the nervous system. Love, Savannah 😘😘 The Netherlands
It doesn't take very long for the intensity of that desire to fade if you can get on top of it. I find it's all or nothing, even a little "cheating' makes sugar creep back into my diet. Winter makes me weaker. I have quit cold turkey numerous times, but it actually gets easier every time. The first time was hardest and it felt like a big deal. This spring I gave it up in one day with barely a thought about it. But it can take a few months for me to try. I think you are correct that it affects our nervous system regulation. You'll be SO happy with yourself if you can manage to quit sugar, even for a while! I feel more level and 'clean" in general.
Hi Savannah Engelenberg Personal, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'll share an answer from the nervous system perspective as that is our scope of practice here. In general, when nervous system dysregulation is in the picture, we don't have the internal capacity to manage all that we feel inside and so we rely on what we call management strategies or defensive accommodations. You might also know these as coping strategies. Eating, and eating certain foods, can be one such strategy. In this work, we often want to grow the nervous system foundation so that in time, we don't need the management strategy any more and these habits are then usually easier to change.
Hi Savanna, in addition to what Jen shared, sugar increases serotonine in the brain which might be something you need/crave to feel better. Check out dr. Daniel Amen on this. Obviously, a substance as addictive as sugar will be harder to quit in an unbalanced state.
I'm having this problem with my new apartment. It stinks. Some of my family members when they come visit don't notice it because they're probably functionally frozen but I'm really sensitive to this smell and it makes it hard to sleep, I feel the irritation in my throat and I signed a lease for a year. I don't know what to do. I can't stay here for a year with this issue.
Hey Jubran, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sorry to hear that! Sometimes cleaning with vinegars or bleach or other antifungal, anti-mold cleaners can really help, but sometimes it's too deep in the structure or hidden, and professional mold remediation is required. You are right that you don't want to stay in that for a year, so if cleaning doesn't do the trick it might be good to get that kind of professional help if possible - if you are renting that is your landlords bill to pay, though I understand they may not be willing or even recognize that there is a problem. If that is the case, moving would be best.
@@IreneLyon NOT bleach! Essential oils, Odoban, vinegar and tea tree oil, etc, will kill this stuff. You can get a huge diffuser and put Thieves in it and run the dang thing constantly. You also need to get it out if your body!
How about exposure (inhalation) in 1982 to aerosolized spray paints containing hexavalent chromium, lead, hexamethylene diisocyanate, and toluene? Some perfumes, adhesives, nail polish, and other substances trigger immediate coughing and headaches for me. My throat feels like it completely dries up and it takes me several minutes of coughing, almost choking, to recover. I also have concerns about memory loss and emotional stability, social isolation, irritability, and erectile dysfunction. I'm thinking of taking some allergen test for isocyanates. My general practitioner has no answers for me, so I need to find someone who specializes in exposure to these chemicals because I need a diagnosis. What kind of doctor should I be looking for?
@zackiinu7194, Jen here from Irene's team. Yes, those chemicals could potentially lead to what we call in this work "chemical trauma". Some nervous system practitioners do have experience working with chemical trauma, and Irene talks about her own expreince with this type of trauma in an interview that I'll link to below. As far as what type of doctor to work with, that's outside our area of expertise and you might look into integrative practitioner or naturopaths and ask them if they have experienced in testing for and working with these chemicals. As you'll hear in Irene's interview, this work may be something to consider too. Irene’s story of coming out of functional freeze with Seth Lyon - irenelyon.com/2023/07/02/irenes-story-of-coming-out-of-functional-freeze-with-seth-lyon/
@@IreneLyon Hi Jen. Thanks for the reply and for the link. I watched almost half of the video, focusing on Irene talk about her chemical trauma. She and I have similar trauma experience with exposure to flea & tick powder. Like her, I can still remember the taste of the powder. I’m going to finish watching the video over the weekend, as it’s a bit long and I don’t want to miss any important information she might share about getting out of the “freeze.” Thanks again!
Mold is literally killing me !!!! My entire body is full of mold. I cannot escape this parasitic fungi. I think i need to head to. AZ. I've lost homes pets family and friends to mold .
I had the same thing, but recovered with the helping a naturopath. Arizona is no better because of the air conditioning systems and other issues. I’ve checked! I also list EVERYTHING I had too, including my teaching career.
Get the DNRS program!!!! I’m on my way to recovery, Ive talked with so many that have healed using it. Went from 70 symptoms to about 5-7 that i’m still working on.
Hi Irene, Is it conceivable a high load of mold toxins be contributing to dysregulation? Do physical stessors like this activate the nervous system? I've been working *so* hard for years to regulate my nervous system. While I've had more success recently incorporating the somatic techniques you are teaching, it seems to me that a certain degree of activation is from the toxicity itself? I understand there is a big chicken and egg situation here.
Chiken or egg? Im SBSM student. So is it first possible to rewire NS if we have many toxins in our body? Should someone be on regiment of diet while doing process on heling or is it possible to rewire first and after you feel whats bothering you? Ima asking the question here not on course, because it is topic of youre lecture. And I was wondering about cleansing protocols, like Anthony Williams who speaks about trauma in the scence of toxins that dissrupts conections between our NS pathways. And it is very hard to because you need a lot of suplements to take because you eat only unprocced food without meat, fats, salt. And I felt without energy to work, and move. So I wonder can NS stil be rewired even if someone is not on a regiment of clean diet. Btw I dont belive that there is organic food anywhere in the world because of polution of Earth, and it is not possible. It might be biofood, but organic, I mean drop of rain are fool of toxins also. Thanks
Hi bebaaskaful, Jen here from Team Lyon. People (and bodies) respond in a wide range of ways to different ways of eating - including what they eat, how much, when, and so on. The key is to pay attention to what works for your body. And we can often grow some degree of regulation while we have toxins in the body, and it's often helpful to take a multi-pronged approach as (for example) growing regulation and removing toxins from the body (in a supported, titrated way) can be quite complementary in many cases.
@@bebaaskaful With all due sincere respect, if I were you, I'd run away from anything connected to 'Anthony Williams' -- he may be popular, but he's the ULTIMATE quack. Your body NEEDS FATS, SALT and yes, meat or at least eggs. We're not herbivores, we're omnivores. You'll get better a LOT faster without worrying too much about what you 'should' eat and shouldn't.
@@DDumbrille thanks for sharing. I know that we are all different in our system and what it needs for regulation and good wellbeing. I was suggested from someone who does NARM therapy to do this type of cleaning, but because I work in hospital as physiotherapist, I tried it out, and felt like no energy in my system. There are supplements which are too expensive for me to use as he sudgest it in book. I felt so uncomfortable that I hardly could do anything so I stopped it. And my thoughts about even starting it was if so many celebrity are blessing him, and they have so much financial resources then it must be true that it helps somehow. These days I navigate my system as whatt food would I like to eat now, and is it something from emotional need or my body needs. And trying to not owerthink it, and eat when I'm hungry, as the SBSM sudgest to follow my impulse. Thanks for comment, and to know that in his work it is not all white, there can be black or grey too.
This sounds like everyone. When you walk past a busy road you're breathing in the same as 6 cigarettes at once. which is why there is higher rates of lung cancer in cities.
10 years ago, I had a massive single exposure to black mold and as a result, became really sick for a few weeks. I did a lot of discharging and regulating my system but never completely recovered. Over the course of about a year, I developed a whole host of symptoms, like sleep apnea, unresolving weight gain, elevated cholesterol, GERDs, and generalized autoomic dysregulation. I eventually realized it was a mold issue, and used a mold clearing regimen for a few months to get back to normal. I was eventually able to resolve everything with a combination of SE, keto/fasting and specific supplements to absorb the biotoxins and replenish key nutrients that are depleted by metabolic stress. Glutathione was a miracle supplement at that time.
My biggest and most fascinating takeaway from that whole ordeal, was that my body seemed to experience the mold and biotoxins as a sort of victimizing invasion. I just had this unexplainable sense of victimization that gradually dissipated as I rid my body of the mold.
I think it's entirely possible that my body was experiencing its infiltration and colonization by the fungus, similary to the emotional victimization that someone experiences from a home invasion.
Interestingly, there are many patients with chronic mold issues who never fully resolve their symptoms. Even with intensive treatment protocols, they never fully recover, or the mold consistently returns. The traditonal theory among mold specialists involves biofilms that allow fugus to forever remain lurking in the body. But I've actually come to conceptualize it as a much more fundamental issue of nervous system dysregulation. I believe that our unresolved emotional reactivity actually facilitates the existence of fungus and pathogens itself. In other words, many people who struggle with recalcitrant mold issues are ultimately dealing with unresolved psycho-emotional distress. Once they resolve the psycho-emotional distress, their metabolic profile has a chance to return to normal. This is because our psycho-emotional state is a metabolic profile. Our metabolic profile precipitates and facilitates the presence or absence of our microbiome. All the research illustrates this.
Wow! I can't imagine the amount of work it must have taken for you to deal with that situation and come to that understanding. It's hard to imagine that most of us haven't had mould exposure sometime in our lives.
@Pedro Norman, there's so much light and understanding in your comment. What you share goes in conjunction with what researcher Dr. Issac Eliiaz talks aboit. It's a whole cycle and in order to heal from mold/mycotoxin exposure it has to be looked at from a holistic perspective of body, mind & spirit. Thank you for sharing this view.
How would you explain young children in a family getting sick from mold exposure?
Bolton Laurie Children can have psycho emotional issues.
Any suggestions on how ?
My friend moved into a different home and ended up in emergency room with red eyes, swollen lips, fatigue pain etc they couldnt figure out why until they found crazy amount of mold behind the walls. She had zero anxiety depression or nervous system issues. Her husband and kids didnt have any symptoms. She moved out until the mold was cleared and room was completely redone. This is a primary example of mold exposure despite nervous system dysregulation
This was useful to me because I’ve been ivertixified and down the past 20 years trying to figure out that breast implants, a gorgeous condo with mold, infections, operations, and MUCH more including money, friends and family, and now lyme and incredible stress and violence, which I am trying to remove from my house (ex and son who have mold in their home)… but almost 3 years is quite enough❣️🙏
I was curious if the mold exposure discussion could also be that most people are living in dysregulation and can’t naturally get rid of toxins
Hey Liz A, Jen here from Team Lyon. To make sure I understand your question, are you wondering if people may experience symptoms and have a hard time with the effects of mold due to nervous system dysregulation?
@@IreneLyon yes Jen - chicken or the egg? Maybe a both and
@@IreneLyon I’m wondering this too . Can you reply please ?
@@liz.a314, Jen here again. Someone added a comment this week that made me realize I never saw your reply - sorry about that! Yes, it does sound like a both and, as you said.
Some people are predisposed genetically to things like sensitivity to mold, and then when we live with nervous system dysregulation over time any or all of our physiological systems can become impaired - including our immune function and detoxification pathways.
@@jaykayel_silva, Jen here from Team Lyon,. Please see my reply above to Liz A.
Food sensitivities too.
I’ve been forced out of my apartment due to mold and am in recovery after breathing and cognition issues. I just found your channel and am grateful for your resources
Are you detoxing from the mold? I had that, and I got rid of it with the help of a naturopath.
@@Tinyteacher1111 I’ve consulted with one. Takesumi, glutathione, and a couple others. That’s all I’m aware of.
Pbx spray is a good one for detoxing mold
How can I figure out what cleaning products will be non-toxic but ALSO actually clean my living spaces effectively? I’ve tried some green products and have gone back (unwillingly) to some of my previous chemical-laden options at some points just because I was missing an effective clean/disinfecting… without spending money to try and trial-and-error my way through (kinda really too poor for that), is there any way I can just know what to use?
For many years, I was told that my sensitivity with toxic smells like perfume and other chemical scents, is a sign that my liver is not healthy, and also that my adrenals are fatigued, by several naturopaths. I don't have any anxiety, panic attacks, etc or any other physical symptoms that show up when I smell these toxic things, but I just hate it so much, and I'm always the first one to notice these chemical scents. So I'm definitely NOT numbed by these toxic scents. However, I do have a nervous system dysregulation (I have anxiety and other physical symptoms , not related to toxins and scents), and currently taking a second round of Smart Body Smart Mind. So I wonder if my hypersensitivity to toxic scents (without making me sick in any way) may be a sign of toxic build up in the liver and adrenal issues, rather than the other way round - which is that I'm able to sense what's toxic because my nervous system is regulated (which mine is not, however). Or I wonder if I just have this hypersensitivity simply because my life style is very clean, and when I smell chemicals, my body appropriately reacts to the scents, even if I do have nervous system issues in many other ways.
Hi Aiko Shimada, Jen here from Team Lyon. You mentioned that you wonder if your hypersensitive is due to your clean lifestyle. It could be, and one place to look for clues is to look at when and how your sensitivity started. You can also continue to be curious about if your sensitivity changes in any way as your regulation grows.
I'm right in the middle of becoming aware of how sick I've been making myself with food without noticing.
I’m wondering is the alpha stim device enough to regulate the nervous system while using a brain training program? or should I be adding some sort of somatic?
HI alina roshberg, Jen here from Team Lyon. Interventions such a the alpha stem device, brain training program, Safe & Sound protocol, and the like can be helpful for many people (some have neutral or adverse responses). At the same time, they don't typically grow foundational nervous system regulation in the way that this work can.
You might check out Irene's free Healing Trauma training to a better understanding of why this is the case. I'll also link to one of her free resources and to her starter (paid) self-study course, the 21 Day Tune Up in case you'd like to learn more.
Free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
7 Steps to De-Stress - irenelyon.com/7-steps-opt-in-IL
The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up - 21daytuneup.com
What about fungus in the case of a fungal infection/ athletes foot that enters the body?
Hi D K, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm not clear about what you're asking. Are you asking if this type of fungal infection can be dysregulating to the nervous system?
I have this trapped survival fight for flight energy stuck in my chest, neck and stomach i just cant seem to release. That comes always come back. I do your your audio excerisises to feel the uncomfortable sensations i feel calmer and more relaxed for a couple hours and always comes back.
It do some orienting and feel my body as well as feel the uncomfortable sensation. Its hard to connect to. But the sensations keep coming back always. I tried for months to release but they come back hours later.
Neck/shoulder tension Fluttery tight anxiety in my chest, nervous fear in my stomach. What can i do? I just cant seem to release it.
Hey I have that problem too! Check out Trauma release exercises or TRE. I let go of tremendous amounts of chronic tension after doing it maybe five times. It's just a series of hold poses that tire out your psoas muscles that strangely creates an involuntary shaking in your legs. Something to do with the brain stem. It made old memories come up that I wasn't expecting which was fascinating. I also cried my eyes out. I saw an osteopath once or twice for my neck and general tension relief. That combination cured me for two years!! Then my mom got terminal cancer and I had drive across Canada to look after her at home. Since then some of my issues are back (but not as bad). But with TRE and another osteo visit I believe I can get on top of it again. I am just a big procrastinator.
Here is a video I follow. The editing isn't great, it repeats a bit in the third part:
ua-cam.com/video/U5qYyfWN8Kg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Dragon
Try trauma release exercises :) just look it up on UA-cam. Also I've noticed if you have a highly sensitive nervous system (I do) you have to have an extremely regimented lifestyle. Daily meditation, exercise, sunlight, only healthy food, low/ no social media use, media diet regimen, etc etc.
This stuff takes time. You just have to keep at it. Keep doing the work and you’ll get there.
Goodmorning Irene,
I would love to know what your thoughts are about sugar in relation to the nervoussystem. I consider sugar as a toxic as well and still I eat it more than I should.
I am learning about the nervous system and I am learning to regulate (with the help of a great coach) and are curious if there's a relation between sugar and the (disregulated) nervous system.
I recently found out that I've spend most of my life in the dorsal state (starting from being within the uterus) and am learning and practicing to build a healthy nervous system.
I know and feel that sugar is not good for my body (I am getting on weight which physically and mentally doesn't feel comfortable) and still I can't resist it. I often choose short-term satisfaction above long term health.
I think it has an influence on my ability to regulate proper and want to stop this unhealthy and sabotaging pattern.
I would appreciate your view on the relation between sugar and the nervous system.
Love,
Savannah 😘😘
The Netherlands
It doesn't take very long for the intensity of that desire to fade if you can get on top of it. I find it's all or nothing, even a little "cheating' makes sugar creep back into my diet. Winter makes me weaker. I have quit cold turkey numerous times, but it actually gets easier every time. The first time was hardest and it felt like a big deal. This spring I gave it up in one day with barely a thought about it. But it can take a few months for me to try. I think you are correct that it affects our nervous system regulation.
You'll be SO happy with yourself if you can manage to quit sugar, even for a while! I feel more level and 'clean" in general.
Hi Savannah Engelenberg Personal, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'll share an answer from the nervous system perspective as that is our scope of practice here. In general, when nervous system dysregulation is in the picture, we don't have the internal capacity to manage all that we feel inside and so we rely on what we call management strategies or defensive accommodations. You might also know these as coping strategies.
Eating, and eating certain foods, can be one such strategy. In this work, we often want to grow the nervous system foundation so that in time, we don't need the management strategy any more and these habits are then usually easier to change.
@@IreneLyon Thank you Jen, for your response. I already suspected that it will get easier when my nervous system will be more and more in balance.
Hi Savanna, in addition to what Jen shared, sugar increases serotonine in the brain which might be something you need/crave to feel better. Check out dr. Daniel Amen on this. Obviously, a substance as addictive as sugar will be harder to quit in an unbalanced state.
I'm having this problem with my new apartment. It stinks. Some of my family members when they come visit don't notice it because they're probably functionally frozen but I'm really sensitive to this smell and it makes it hard to sleep, I feel the irritation in my throat and I signed a lease for a year. I don't know what to do. I can't stay here for a year with this issue.
Hey Jubran, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sorry to hear that! Sometimes cleaning with vinegars or bleach or other antifungal, anti-mold cleaners can really help, but sometimes it's too deep in the structure or hidden, and professional mold remediation is required. You are right that you don't want to stay in that for a year, so if cleaning doesn't do the trick it might be good to get that kind of professional help if possible - if you are renting that is your landlords bill to pay, though I understand they may not be willing or even recognize that there is a problem. If that is the case, moving would be best.
@@IreneLyon NOT bleach! Essential oils, Odoban, vinegar and tea tree oil, etc, will kill this stuff. You can get a huge diffuser and put Thieves in it and run the dang thing constantly. You also need to get it out if your body!
How about exposure (inhalation) in 1982 to aerosolized spray paints containing hexavalent chromium, lead, hexamethylene diisocyanate, and toluene? Some perfumes, adhesives, nail polish, and other substances trigger immediate coughing and headaches for me. My throat feels like it completely dries up and it takes me several minutes of coughing, almost choking, to recover. I also have concerns about memory loss and emotional stability, social isolation, irritability, and erectile dysfunction. I'm thinking of taking some allergen test for isocyanates. My general practitioner has no answers for me, so I need to find someone who specializes in exposure to these chemicals because I need a diagnosis. What kind of doctor should I be looking for?
@zackiinu7194, Jen here from Irene's team. Yes, those chemicals could potentially lead to what we call in this work "chemical trauma". Some nervous system practitioners do have experience working with chemical trauma, and Irene talks about her own expreince with this type of trauma in an interview that I'll link to below.
As far as what type of doctor to work with, that's outside our area of expertise and you might look into integrative practitioner or naturopaths and ask them if they have experienced in testing for and working with these chemicals. As you'll hear in Irene's interview, this work may be something to consider too.
Irene’s story of coming out of functional freeze with Seth Lyon - irenelyon.com/2023/07/02/irenes-story-of-coming-out-of-functional-freeze-with-seth-lyon/
@@IreneLyon Hi Jen. Thanks for the reply and for the link. I watched almost half of the video, focusing on Irene talk about her chemical trauma. She and I have similar trauma experience with exposure to flea & tick powder. Like her, I can still remember the taste of the powder. I’m going to finish watching the video over the weekend, as it’s a bit long and I don’t want to miss any important information she might share about getting out of the “freeze.” Thanks again!
@@zackiinu7194 , my pleasure. Great to hear that the video is resonating with you.
Mold is literally killing me !!!!
My entire body is full of mold. I cannot escape this parasitic fungi.
I think i need to head to. AZ.
I've lost homes pets family and friends to mold .
I had the same thing, but recovered with the helping a naturopath. Arizona is no better because of the air conditioning systems and other issues. I’ve checked!
I also list EVERYTHING I had too, including my teaching career.
@@Tinyteacher1111 where did you heal ? I'm in Asheville NC it's humid lots of mold
Get the DNRS program!!!! I’m on my way to recovery, Ive talked with so many that have healed using it. Went from 70 symptoms to about 5-7 that i’m still working on.
@@alinaroshberg5536 i have it.. Annie Hopper
@@alinaroshberg5536 did you do the 21 day with IL as well?
Hi Irene, Is it conceivable a high load of mold toxins be contributing to dysregulation? Do physical stessors like this activate the nervous system? I've been working *so* hard for years to regulate my nervous system. While I've had more success recently incorporating the somatic techniques you are teaching, it seems to me that a certain degree of activation is from the toxicity itself? I understand there is a big chicken and egg situation here.
Hi Veveka, Seth here with Team Lyon. Yes! That's what the video here is all about :)
@@IreneLyon got it! Wasn't clear. Thank you for clarifying.
What do you mean by "I still use shampoo?" I've decreased shampooing my hair and it feels alot better. WHY?
Chiken or egg? Im SBSM student. So is it first possible to rewire NS if we have many toxins in our body? Should someone be on regiment of diet while doing process on heling or is it possible to rewire first and after you feel whats bothering you? Ima asking the question here not on course, because it is topic of youre lecture. And I was wondering about cleansing protocols, like Anthony Williams who speaks about trauma in the scence of toxins that dissrupts conections between our NS pathways. And it is very hard to because you need a lot of suplements to take because you eat only unprocced food without meat, fats, salt. And I felt without energy to work, and move. So I wonder can NS stil be rewired even if someone is not on a regiment of clean diet. Btw I dont belive that there is organic food anywhere in the world because of polution of Earth, and it is not possible. It might be biofood, but organic, I mean drop of rain are fool of toxins also. Thanks
Hi bebaaskaful, Jen here from Team Lyon. People (and bodies) respond in a wide range of ways to different ways of eating - including what they eat, how much, when, and so on. The key is to pay attention to what works for your body. And we can often grow some degree of regulation while we have toxins in the body, and it's often helpful to take a multi-pronged approach as (for example) growing regulation and removing toxins from the body (in a supported, titrated way) can be quite complementary in many cases.
Thanks for the explanation Jen
@@bebaaskaful With all due sincere respect, if I were you, I'd run away from anything connected to 'Anthony Williams' -- he may be popular, but he's the ULTIMATE quack. Your body NEEDS FATS, SALT and yes, meat or at least eggs. We're not herbivores, we're omnivores. You'll get better a LOT faster without worrying too much about what you 'should' eat and shouldn't.
@@DDumbrille thanks for sharing. I know that we are all different in our system and what it needs for regulation and good wellbeing. I was suggested from someone who does NARM therapy to do this type of cleaning, but because I work in hospital as physiotherapist, I tried it out, and felt like no energy in my system. There are supplements which are too expensive for me to use as he sudgest it in book. I felt so uncomfortable that I hardly could do anything so I stopped it. And my thoughts about even starting it was if so many celebrity are blessing him, and they have so much financial resources then it must be true that it helps somehow. These days I navigate my system as whatt food would I like to eat now, and is it something from emotional need or my body needs. And trying to not owerthink it, and eat when I'm hungry, as the SBSM sudgest to follow my impulse. Thanks for comment, and to know that in his work it is not all white, there can be black or grey too.
@DDumbrille actually, we're biologically frugivores.
How about 5g? Somatic experience is so helpful. Just miss some element…the nutrition and other outer impact, like 5g. Thank you for your work!
Hi Ma ria, Jen here from Team Lyon. 5G can be tough on the nervous system (and body).
This sounds like everyone. When you walk past a busy road you're breathing in the same as 6 cigarettes at once. which is why there is higher rates of lung cancer in cities.