Same, I grew with Star Trek and loved lower decks. There's a moment in a season 2 episode of tng that definitely inspired the series. There's a petition to keep lower decks.
The theme song lyrics are not a "Secret that Took Years to Discover;" they were published in 1968 in "The Making of Star Trek," by Stephen Whitfield -- while the series was still in production.
19:50 - Incorrect. Nichols had appeared on documentaries all the way back in the 1990's telling the MLK story. I forget if it was the "Star Trek Memories" or the 25th Anniversary Special, but it was definitely one of those VHS releases (if not both). LONG before 2011
@@Colleen1701 Yeah, its easily one of her most well-known stories. To even suggest that she didn't reveal this until any time after 2000 shows a clear lack of any semblance of proper research.
If you didn’t get the Enterprise theme, you aren’t thinking very deeply. The point was that Enterprise was closer to our time, culturally if not chronologically, and they chose a theme that reflected that.
I don't know if this has been spotted before but here goes just in case. In an episode of next generation Picard demonstrates to Moriarty what happens if he leaves the holladec by throwing a book out of the entrance. But in Farpoint Wesly Crusher comes out of the holladec soaking wet after falling in the made up stream but as he comes out into the hall he is still wet. Should he not be dry?
Yeah, this has been spotted before. As has the episode where the kids playing in the snow through a snowball out of the holodeck. The rules were inconsistent in the beginning.
Fun fact: those red tube thingies also show up in the movie The Last Starfighter (and I'm sure others, but that's where I know them). They are in Star League High Command, and when we first meet Grig, he is messing with one as if it's doing... something. "And Trekies probably nitpick their favorite franchise far more than any other fans." *cough* Comic book fans... Though it's just kind of a nerd thing to do in general. We like pointing out the bad things while still enjoying it... mostly. That and getting angry at anything new, then begrudgingly accepting it, and eventually saying it wasn't so bad or even really good when something else new comes out to complain about.
I live in Greensboro, NC, in the US. We have great Asian grocery store called Li Ming. I've lived in several different cities with large Asian grocery stores and by far Li Ming is the best. A big part of it is that they have a fresh bakery with amazing products. They also have an huge fresh seafood selection and amazing produce. But to be honest my favorite thing in the store is the extensive selection of frozen dim sum items. It's hard to make good dim sum at home with limited time and ingredients so I have no problem buying the frozen options. My favorite items are the radish cakes and the rice and mushroom dumplings steamed in lotus leaves.
The reflective green statue...... I remember seeing that when I watched unification for the first ever time on the BBC. I don't know why but it's always been stuck in my head
9:21 - I don't believe Benedict Cumberbatch was Khan. Khan Noonien Singh was born in Northern India, whereas the whiter than snow Cumberbatch was obviously.... not. But hear me out; My head canon is, Khan informed his fallowers, 'whomever was woken up first to pretend to be Khan, to protect Khan'. Well, Cumberbatch was the one who was woken up first, so he became Khan, while the real Khan was still in asleep stasis. And everything he did in the movie was to protect Khan and his fellow followers. Now if you go into the movie thinking this, the movie makes a heck of a lot more sense.
Martok is one of my two favorite Klingons through all of Trek. Christopher Plummer's General Chang is the other. Both men made their Klingons so deeply layered and wonderful to watch.
I wouldn't have minded Faith of the Heart if it had been an orchestra version of the song, it actually sounds reminiscent of a Star Trek theme when it's an orchestra version without sung lyrics, they missed an opportunity to use the song and still have it fit a Star Trek series by using the original version of the song.
I enjoyed Star Trek 5. But that's because I worked with George Murdock for 16 months in a play in LA. I absolutely loved his voice! And he was personally very charming.
Anyone who watches over 2 hours of behind the scenes Star Trek info has already seen Star Trek 2 and 3 TOS. I don't think spoilers r a thing in decades old movies videos
I like star citizen. I play it. I onyl bought 1 ship that was mandatory to play the game ($40 total). I think the game is pretty cool and interesting. Being able to fly around a solar system, go basically anywhere, and land on a planet or a moon is awesome. But paying 350 bucks for a ship is crazy
9:17 - I feel like I'm one of only a handful of people who really liked Into Darkness. I think it's because I didn't compare one film to another and watched it as a self-standing universe. Opinions are valid, and I have mine -shrug-
I do a lot of hypothesising of what different meshups would look like. For example, a Defiant, the size of the Enterprise-F But, with nacels from voyager that move up and down. No seperatable saucer, but it would be a very fast and sleek powerhouse with a size advantage. (Edit for mispeling)
Nemesis was far more of a Wrath of Khan ripoff than Into Darkness was anyway. Hell, 2009 was closer to Wrath of Khan than Into Darkness was. If anything, Into Darkness was a film remake of Space Seed.
12:45 - I learned of the TOS Theme lyrics when I was in junior high (early '70s). I bought and read The Making Of Star Trek by Stephen E Whitfield (pen name) that was originally published in 1968.
In re losing Majel Barrett's Number One -- the narrative that the network would not accept a female first officer was created by Roddenberry, but wasn't really the case. From several good books about the period, it's been revealed that the problem really was that Gene's relationship with Majel was an open secret throughout the studios and networks, and NBC found it highly inappropriate for the producer to "flaunt his mistress." It was more that the network brass had a personal problem with Gene, not so much that they had a resistance to showing strong female characters.
The Kingon D7 ship used by Romulans in TOS. I remember Spock saying Romulans now using Kingon design. I think was the line. This was before any remastering.
Gene also wanted Troi to have like 6 boobs or something... so Majel saying Gene wouldn't approve is not a great admonition. Gene also made the first Season of TNG the worst by wrongly stating that there would be no arguements between these boring bot-like people in the future... killing any drama for the series...
I have to agree with your early comments about T'Pol not getting much respect as a character, being physically emphasized and having a rough story line through the series. I have commented before how I feel about another character, Seven of Nine, who I really liked. She was an excellent idea, but was ultimately portrayed as a sexually distracting character with ever inconsistent qualities. So sometimes she's super strong, sometimes she's almost as weak as a human. They made this mistake with both vulcans and the favorite borg. You cover too wide a range of mistakes for me to fully wrap my head around, but I have my own list that complements or agrees with you. In my estimation of the Star Trek franchise, Nemesis (death of Data), Picard, the dark dimension hopping series I refuse to think about so effectively that I forgot its name (just remembered, Discovery), and the new reboot movies were all complete failures that should be stricken from the official timeline. For all of the actors skill and their great potential, these are the items that I saw or saw the first season and was so disturbed at where the writers were going that I lost all interest and either wanted to never see them again or never see the end of a given series. The sad thing is the creators already got what they wanted, money and attention, and have no incentive to care how badly they ruined the affected community of interest. Since I love Star Trek in general, I can at least continue watching the shows they didn't condemn to oblivion. The original movies up to Insurrection, original Star Trek, sort of, Strange New Worlds, Enterprise, Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space Nine, maybe some of the animated series. I'm not sure what they are doing with Starfleet Academy, so no comment. There is plenty of content worth commending, despite the timeline ending failures.
The warp 10 barrier rule was broken in TOS. Season 2 Episode 3, "The Changeling". The robot thing "Nomad" made engineering changes that pushed the speed to a stated Warp 11 before Kirk got it to stop.
the problem with the warp factor is that it got rescaled amongst the movies of the kirk crew. what is currenly warp 6 used to be like warp 13. the current warp 10 would have been like warp 30 back in kirks days before the rescale. so the warp 10 issue wasnt always a thing
One of the best things to come out of Star Trek was the 70s/80s British scifi series Blakes 7. Series creator Terry Nation HATED Star Trek, and crafted his show as a partial parody, skewering Roddenberry's optimism with a HUGE dose of British cynicism. The show portrayed the Federation as a totalitarian dystopia whose (heavily drugged) citizens mostly think they are living in a free paradise, but with a growing undercurrent of dissatisfaction and resistance. The federation uniforms have a version of the Star Fleet delta on them (turned on its side) which also became the show's original logo, and Liberator, the heroes' ship, was basically a backwards, upside-down Enterprise with an extra nacelle. If Trek was 'Wagon Train', Blakes 7 was 'The Dirty Dozen' with a side order of 'Robin Hood'. Oh, and the heroes mostly never win. The show ran for 4 seasons (of variable quality) before ending with the bleakest finale ever (spoiler: all the good guys die, and the series' main villain not only gets off scot-free, but isn't even in the episode - the heroes are TPK'd by a mid-level boss).
I for one thought that theme song for Enterprise was terrible. But The absolute biggest worst mistakes in Trek were made by the studio executives who made the bad decision to cancel each of the Star Trek series that got the axe 🤬
I was at my friend’s house and we watched this episode of TNG where Data and Tosha got busy. My friend’s older sister was watching it with us and said to herself I ( I wonder if Data has full settings with those fully functional anatomical parts ) . I looked straight into her eyes and said sure he’s a grower not a shower… I’ve never seen anyone turn that red from blushing. She got up and went to the kitchen to make cookies.
Yea, turns out Q wasn't showing the Enterprise what was out there, he was showing them what was already coming. Without Q's help the Borg would have arrived in Federation space to find the Federation unprepared for their arrival.
It had no chance given the competition. But the song itself grew on me after time, and i even found myself singing it from time to time. That being said, there is no way it even holds up to any of the beautiful orchestra scores that came before it. No contest. It's the worst out of all of them.
I never notice the background stuff unless I see it directly. But like the lady in Data’s dream sequence or the person off to the side in the clip with Tuvok the wire on Shatner, didn’t see any of em.
You can go fly in a comet tail about Enterprise's theme song. It endeared me to the series from the start! If you actually listen each year the music gets bolder and more confident like the crew of the Enterprise!
I love the shows this post focuses on and I appreciate how they kindly phrase their observations as if I, too, was aware of their observations. =D Fun to see them, hadn't a clue previously.
I still don’t know why people think Enterprise’s theme is so bad. I’ve asked dozens of people what it is and their explanations have either been just thinly veiled complaints or nonsensical criticisms. Would someone please just give me a reason other than “You don’t like it”?
@@Fuzz32 All of the other shows had inspirational instrumental music that tended to get faster at the end. Or ended with a mass of chords tending up. All very dramatic. I have a feeling that if Enterprise's theme had been more dramatic, they might have gotten another season. Or at least a finale that wasn't a cheat. The fans were cheated as much as the cast was. You blew it.
@@franblaye9639 are you okay? You honestly believe that the success or rather failure of that show was due to its theme song? Also keep in mind that Picard had an instrumental theme as well, yet it had fewer seasons than Enterprise. Everything that you said was exactly what I was complaining about. You don’t like it so you say you don’t like it but in a way that doesn’t sound like you’re saying it. And on top that what good would another season have done? What other stories could have been told? The whole series was about the period between Cochran discovering Warp travel and the founding of the Federation. And those stories had been told and wrapped up. Plus, how exactly did I blow it? I didn’t work on this show, nor did I decide on what the theme song would be. In fact, I was in middle school when the show aired. So explain that to me. I have no problem with people not liking the song or the show for that matter. The problem comes when people decide that EVERYONE should dislike it and call it irrefutably terrible. Then, they make up multiple reasons why it is bad, none of which follow any actual logic other than the fact that they hate it. If you don’t like it say so and be honest, don’t try to make up reasons because you can’t just say “I don’t like it.” If you had said something like “It sounds like the singer is off key” then I would have said “Okay, yeah that’s pretty bad.” And that would have been much better than “This song prevented them from getting another season.” Which sounds more like a conspiracy theory.
The theme of the show seemed to be about aspiration and looking beyond ourselves, the federation humbling themselves, I think the intro tune fit that theme perfectly. This isn’t the enterprise we are used to, it’s early days, and the only way is forward, the theme tune understood the assignment. It may be the black sheep of the franchise but that isn’t inherently a bad thing, Trekkies are notorious for hating change.
The most reused prop in star trek is actually a different lamp. The aliens in star trek voyager “equinox” used the lamp to summon the aliens. Those lamps are even in the TOS, enterprise, voyager, tng
Can't believe you'd leave out Robert Duncan McNeill from the director's list, I thought he'd be #2 under Frakes! 52 directing credits on IMDB, including 4 episodes of Voyager and 4 of Enterprise.
I think the biggest problem, both with Wesley and Alexander, was just that the writers had no clue how to write children, and it shows. Wil Wheaton was a phenomenal actor at that point in his career already. They shouldn't have made long-term child characters before they learned how to actually write them. But I don't think Wesley was a mistake, simply because Wheaton loved the role, and it is one of the few things he looks back on fondly.
27:27 As far as Genevieve Bujold opting out of portraying Janeway, I personally think that it was for the better because her portrayal of Captain Janeway kinda put Janeway in a bad light, making her seeming to be rather cold and stand-offish
With respect to Jennifer Lien and the character of Kes, it must have been known that she would eventually be replaced. It was established very early that her species, the Ocampa, only lived for nine years. Now it’s true that she was only about two when she came to Voyager and could have made it all the way to the seventh season. But you don’t develop a character with a tragically limited life-span without some kind of departure in mind. Kes, I’m sorry to say, was always expendable.
Actually, Garret Wang's character Harry Kim was going to be written off. But then Garret Wang was named in that years People magazines most beautiful people list. So they kept him and got rid of Kes.
@@tylerrettig835 You can have more than one expendable character, y’know. Besides didn’t Harry actually get blown out into space through an open hatch during a fight with the Vidiians, and then replaced by an alternate version?
The last episode of Enterprise should have been near the top or even number one on the list of mistakes. Placing the entire show as a program running on the hollodeck on Enterprise Generations. The crew interaction with Riker also tainted the last scene of Archer hugging T'pal. And the writers were so lazy that they tossed away the perfect ending of Archer's speach to open the Federation. Even placing his speach to the smaller group from earlier in the episode to the end of the last episode would have been preferable to a snide remark that the superior TNG counselor had memorized it years ago. Slap upon slap.
In Skin of Evil, when Riker is pulled into the goop, you see the carriage where Riker lies upon. First time i've seen that was 20seconds ago, watching this video. (1h28m28s)
When it comes to reused footage, TNG is the worst offender. In dozens of episodes, the shot of the Enterprise sliding in from the bottom left to give a view of the ship from behind, is used and reused. The same ship movement, and worse, the same star pattern; the four star (box) constellation in the centre is the dead giveaway.
If they had accepted The Cage, Star Trek would have been very different, perhaps not as good. For one thing, in that alternate ST universe, Volcan was not the more advanced culture that mane first contact with Earth, Volcan was conquered by Earth.
. I don't get how Kirstie Alley thought she could demand more money for ST3. ST2 was her film debut. She was nobody before that. Then there's the actor who played Joaquin in ST2 going uncredited over a money dispute. I get the impression there was some type of issue behind the scenes with Paramount lowballing everybody and it's less about the actors demanding unreasonable salaries as it is with them being offered adequate salaries.
'Johnathan Frakes asserts his dominance over almost every chair he encounters in Star Trek" Always cracks me up.
I've been watching Star Trek shows since 1966. Lower Decks is a joy and will be greatly missed. Thanks to the writers and performers for that joy.
Same, I grew with Star Trek and loved lower decks.
There's a moment in a season 2 episode of tng that definitely inspired the series.
There's a petition to keep lower decks.
All of the references and hidden gems in that cartoon series!!! 😂 I used Lower Decks as a means of explaining star trek lore to my youngest❤
The theme song lyrics are not a "Secret that Took Years to Discover;" they were published in 1968 in "The Making of Star Trek," by Stephen Whitfield -- while the series was still in production.
And after reading them, I feel like people can sit down and shut up about Enterprise's theme.
@@Bolton115 or not?
2:30:14 "Future BBQ enthusiast, René Picard....." TAKE AN LATINUM UP GOOD SIR! You had me spitting bloodwine!
Too soon...
by a few hundred years
19:50 - Incorrect. Nichols had appeared on documentaries all the way back in the 1990's telling the MLK story. I forget if it was the "Star Trek Memories" or the 25th Anniversary Special, but it was definitely one of those VHS releases (if not both). LONG before 2011
Half this video is incorrect.
@@andrewpyrah I sorta gave up a few minutes after this comment, so I didn't see all the other things they got wrong lol
Nichols told this story at every convention she attended as a guest, starting from the early 80's (at least that's when I began to hear her tell it).
@@Colleen1701 Yeah, its easily one of her most well-known stories. To even suggest that she didn't reveal this until any time after 2000 shows a clear lack of any semblance of proper research.
Enterprise season 3 not ending with Archer saying "oh boy" is a worse decision than the series finale
If you didn’t get the Enterprise theme, you aren’t thinking very deeply.
The point was that Enterprise was closer to our time, culturally if not chronologically, and they chose a theme that reflected that.
Nothing like looking at Marcus! Glad to see him in more than just a voice-over!
I don't know if this has been spotted before but here goes just in case. In an episode of next generation Picard demonstrates to Moriarty what happens if he leaves the holladec by throwing a book out of the entrance. But in Farpoint Wesly Crusher comes out of the holladec soaking wet after falling in the made up stream but as he comes out into the hall he is still wet. Should he not be dry?
Should be dry
Great point.
Some things in the holodeck are replicated, like food, drinks etc.
The water may have been too.
Yeah, this has been spotted before. As has the episode where the kids playing in the snow through a snowball out of the holodeck.
The rules were inconsistent in the beginning.
Noticed that early, seems few (except some) saw it. It happens in other episodes.
As always thank you Marcus and friends so very much for the videos.
(I hope Ellie is feeling better.)
Fun fact: those red tube thingies also show up in the movie The Last Starfighter (and I'm sure others, but that's where I know them). They are in Star League High Command, and when we first meet Grig, he is messing with one as if it's doing... something.
"And Trekies probably nitpick their favorite franchise far more than any other fans." *cough* Comic book fans... Though it's just kind of a nerd thing to do in general. We like pointing out the bad things while still enjoying it... mostly. That and getting angry at anything new, then begrudgingly accepting it, and eventually saying it wasn't so bad or even really good when something else new comes out to complain about.
At 11:09, Brennan isn't Spock's half sibling; She"s adopted.
She’s*
Michael Burnham. 🙂
At 11:09, he's not talking Trek any longer anyway, so who cares.
12 mins in, and I had completely forgotten I was watching a "140 Things" list. Checked the time bar, 2 hrs 35 mins. Gonna have to pick this up later.
I live in Greensboro, NC, in the US. We have great Asian grocery store called Li Ming. I've lived in several different cities with large Asian grocery stores and by far Li Ming is the best. A big part of it is that they have a fresh bakery with amazing products. They also have an huge fresh seafood selection and amazing produce. But to be honest my favorite thing in the store is the extensive selection of frozen dim sum items. It's hard to make good dim sum at home with limited time and ingredients so I have no problem buying the frozen options. My favorite items are the radish cakes and the rice and mushroom dumplings steamed in lotus leaves.
The reflective green statue...... I remember seeing that when I watched unification for the first ever time on the BBC. I don't know why but it's always been stuck in my head
9:21 - I don't believe Benedict Cumberbatch was Khan. Khan Noonien Singh was born in Northern India, whereas the whiter than snow Cumberbatch was obviously.... not. But hear me out; My head canon is, Khan informed his fallowers, 'whomever was woken up first to pretend to be Khan, to protect Khan'. Well, Cumberbatch was the one who was woken up first, so he became Khan, while the real Khan was still in asleep stasis. And everything he did in the movie was to protect Khan and his fellow followers. Now if you go into the movie thinking this, the movie makes a heck of a lot more sense.
Martok is one of my two favorite Klingons through all of Trek. Christopher Plummer's General Chang is the other. Both men made their Klingons so deeply layered and wonderful to watch.
The exploding Bird of Prey was almost as overused as the Klingon getting sucked into space... lol
I really like this Deep Dive into BTS Trek facts.
I wouldn't have minded Faith of the Heart if it had been an orchestra version of the song, it actually sounds reminiscent of a Star Trek theme when it's an orchestra version without sung lyrics, they missed an opportunity to use the song and still have it fit a Star Trek series by using the original version of the song.
The Discovery klingons should have looked like the Klingons from Into Darkness. THAT was a good evolution of the klingons!
We do not discuss it with outsiders 😅
This was a good one AJ. Thanks for all you do. ❤
I enjoyed Star Trek 5. But that's because I worked with George Murdock for 16 months in a play in LA. I absolutely loved his voice! And he was personally very charming.
Anyone who watches over 2 hours of behind the scenes Star Trek info has already seen Star Trek 2 and 3 TOS. I don't think spoilers r a thing in decades old movies videos
On one of the Star Trek forums I used to be a member of, we called T'Pol "Seven of Kes".
James Doohan had a missing finger and I never noticed!?
I like star citizen. I play it. I onyl bought 1 ship that was mandatory to play the game ($40 total). I think the game is pretty cool and interesting. Being able to fly around a solar system, go basically anywhere, and land on a planet or a moon is awesome. But paying 350 bucks for a ship is crazy
9:17 - I feel like I'm one of only a handful of people who really liked Into Darkness. I think it's because I didn't compare one film to another and watched it as a self-standing universe. Opinions are valid, and I have mine -shrug-
I liked it too. But that's at least partially because I'll watch anything with Cumberbatch in it. And like you, I don't compare.
I mean if we're talking mistakes, surely killing Jadzia should be on the list. No disrespect to Ezri mind.
1:46:09 Fun fact: Star Trek: Enterprise used iMac G3's for all of the computer terminals in the show.
All all Star Trek fans would love to hear her original opening❤❤❤❤❤❤
I do a lot of hypothesising of what different meshups would look like. For example, a Defiant, the size of the Enterprise-F But, with nacels from voyager that move up and down. No seperatable saucer, but it would be a very fast and sleek powerhouse with a size advantage.
(Edit for mispeling)
*misspelling
Given the context, the fact that you misspelled the word misspelling is kind of hilarious.
@@fuktrumpanzeeskum I tend to mistype and don't use autocorrect. Lol
RE "Planet Hell": the cast has also said feral cats snuck in and used it for a litterbox. So that's another joy they dealt with.
Oh man! Into Darkness is one of my favourites. Maybe it's me. I also like Nemesis.😅
Nemesis was far more of a Wrath of Khan ripoff than Into Darkness was anyway. Hell, 2009 was closer to Wrath of Khan than Into Darkness was. If anything, Into Darkness was a film remake of Space Seed.
It was my ex-gf's favourite Trek film.
I rank it pretty level with Wrath Of Khan.
Play both most definitely blow the motion picture out of the f****** water
12:45 - I learned of the TOS Theme lyrics when I was in junior high (early '70s). I bought and read The Making Of Star Trek by Stephen E Whitfield (pen name) that was originally published in 1968.
You can't really grumble about Trek reusing shots when this whole episode of TrekCulture is constructed of reused material.
Your comment doesn't make any sense lol
In re losing Majel Barrett's Number One -- the narrative that the network would not accept a female first officer was created by Roddenberry, but wasn't really the case. From several good books about the period, it's been revealed that the problem really was that Gene's relationship with Majel was an open secret throughout the studios and networks, and NBC found it highly inappropriate for the producer to "flaunt his mistress." It was more that the network brass had a personal problem with Gene, not so much that they had a resistance to showing strong female characters.
I never liked the Borg Queen. The noncentralized hive mind is scarier.
Rick Berman liked "Faith of the Heart," thats why it became the Enterprise theme song. Archer's theme became the music for the end credits.
Berman got rid of Jadzia. Not cool.
The Kingon D7 ship used by Romulans in TOS. I remember Spock saying Romulans now using Kingon design. I think was the line. This was before any remastering.
Nichelle Nichols actually tells the MLK story in the 25th anniversary special from 1991.
And at every convention or interview she's ever done.
okay, good, I'm not the only one who noticed this
I wonder if it's true
Edit: I'd like it to be so don't get me wrong but I've seen enough examples of people taking credit that isn't the case
@@daviddiggens8841 which part? If it actually happened, or if the story had been told as early as 1991?
Gene also wanted Troi to have like 6 boobs or something... so Majel saying Gene wouldn't approve is not a great admonition. Gene also made the first Season of TNG the worst by wrongly stating that there would be no arguements between these boring bot-like people in the future... killing any drama for the series...
I lived in Glendale during the 94 quake. It was crazy
Your tone of voice, when you said number one shaving the Klingons. It was epic.
I have to agree with your early comments about T'Pol not getting much respect as a character, being physically emphasized and having a rough story line through the series. I have commented before how I feel about another character, Seven of Nine, who I really liked. She was an excellent idea, but was ultimately portrayed as a sexually distracting character with ever inconsistent qualities. So sometimes she's super strong, sometimes she's almost as weak as a human. They made this mistake with both vulcans and the favorite borg.
You cover too wide a range of mistakes for me to fully wrap my head around, but I have my own list that complements or agrees with you. In my estimation of the Star Trek franchise, Nemesis (death of Data), Picard, the dark dimension hopping series I refuse to think about so effectively that I forgot its name (just remembered, Discovery), and the new reboot movies were all complete failures that should be stricken from the official timeline. For all of the actors skill and their great potential, these are the items that I saw or saw the first season and was so disturbed at where the writers were going that I lost all interest and either wanted to never see them again or never see the end of a given series. The sad thing is the creators already got what they wanted, money and attention, and have no incentive to care how badly they ruined the affected community of interest.
Since I love Star Trek in general, I can at least continue watching the shows they didn't condemn to oblivion. The original movies up to Insurrection, original Star Trek, sort of, Strange New Worlds, Enterprise, Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space Nine, maybe some of the animated series. I'm not sure what they are doing with Starfleet Academy, so no comment. There is plenty of content worth commending, despite the timeline ending failures.
I love Duran story, esp S7. Normally, I don't like murder mysteries, but Duran made it interesting
The warp 10 barrier rule was broken in TOS. Season 2 Episode 3, "The Changeling". The robot thing "Nomad" made engineering changes that pushed the speed to a stated Warp 11 before Kirk got it to stop.
the problem with the warp factor is that it got rescaled amongst the movies of the kirk crew. what is currenly warp 6 used to be like warp 13. the current warp 10 would have been like warp 30 back in kirks days before the rescale. so the warp 10 issue wasnt always a thing
One of the best things to come out of Star Trek was the 70s/80s British scifi series Blakes 7. Series creator Terry Nation HATED Star Trek, and crafted his show as a partial parody, skewering Roddenberry's optimism with a HUGE dose of British cynicism. The show portrayed the Federation as a totalitarian dystopia whose (heavily drugged) citizens mostly think they are living in a free paradise, but with a growing undercurrent of dissatisfaction and resistance. The federation uniforms have a version of the Star Fleet delta on them (turned on its side) which also became the show's original logo, and Liberator, the heroes' ship, was basically a backwards, upside-down Enterprise with an extra nacelle. If Trek was 'Wagon Train', Blakes 7 was 'The Dirty Dozen' with a side order of 'Robin Hood'.
Oh, and the heroes mostly never win. The show ran for 4 seasons (of variable quality) before ending with the bleakest finale ever (spoiler: all the good guys die, and the series' main villain not only gets off scot-free, but isn't even in the episode - the heroes are TPK'd by a mid-level boss).
I for one thought that theme song for Enterprise was terrible. But The absolute biggest worst mistakes in Trek were made by the studio executives who made the bad decision to cancel each of the Star Trek series that got the axe 🤬
I was at my friend’s house and we watched this episode of TNG where Data and Tosha got busy. My friend’s older sister was watching it with us and said to herself I ( I wonder if Data has full settings with those fully functional anatomical parts ) . I looked straight into her eyes and said sure he’s a grower not a shower… I’ve never seen anyone turn that red from blushing. She got up and went to the kitchen to make cookies.
There's a joke about British tv. It goes something like this. They only have 20 actors 12 sets and 8 props.
Star trek should have something similar.
They did - the actors were all Jeffrey Combs! 😅
Yea, turns out Q wasn't showing the Enterprise what was out there, he was showing them what was already coming. Without Q's help the Borg would have arrived in Federation space to find the Federation unprepared for their arrival.
"I've got faith" is my favourite star trek opening. Fight me.
Enterprise is the best Star Trek followed by Voyager
Nah I'd feel bad fighting a deaf person. Enterprise itself was great though.
It was OK.. then they ompa-ompa'd it...
With that opinion I hope your pantry is found by a pregnant tribble
It had no chance given the competition. But the song itself grew on me after time, and i even found myself singing it from time to time. That being said, there is no way it even holds up to any of the beautiful orchestra scores that came before it. No contest. It's the worst out of all of them.
Lower decks ssn5 for the loss. 8-(
SO glad the second number seven didn’t happen.
The biggest mistake was every word that's ever been spoken in Discovery
No... The biggest mistake was to green light that Mary Sue Deviantart fanfic
"dis my OC. Pls no steal"
STAR TREK 4 = THE VOYAGE HOME!
Thank you
I never notice the background stuff unless I see it directly. But like the lady in Data’s dream sequence or the person off to the side in the clip with Tuvok the wire on Shatner, didn’t see any of em.
I grew up in the 80's before there was even a TNG. I like the lower Decks Series.
The original Gorn looks better than all the other ones
You can go fly in a comet tail about Enterprise's theme song. It endeared me to the series from the start! If you actually listen each year the music gets bolder and more confident like the crew of the Enterprise!
I love the shows this post focuses on and I appreciate how they kindly phrase their observations as if I, too, was aware of their observations. =D Fun to see them, hadn't a clue previously.
So Scotty and Zack (from Power Rangers) have alot in common.
As I didn't notice both were missing a digit.
I still don’t know why people think Enterprise’s theme is so bad. I’ve asked dozens of people what it is and their explanations have either been just thinly veiled complaints or nonsensical criticisms. Would someone please just give me a reason other than “You don’t like it”?
I like it, but i think its the singing. All others are instrumental thats only thing i can think off
@@Fuzz32 All of the other shows had inspirational instrumental music that tended to get faster at the end. Or ended with a mass of chords tending up. All very dramatic. I have a feeling that if Enterprise's theme had been more dramatic, they might have gotten another season. Or at least a finale that wasn't a cheat. The fans were cheated as much as the cast was. You blew it.
@@franblaye9639 are you okay? You honestly believe that the success or rather failure of that show was due to its theme song? Also keep in mind that Picard had an instrumental theme as well, yet it had fewer seasons than Enterprise. Everything that you said was exactly what I was complaining about. You don’t like it so you say you don’t like it but in a way that doesn’t sound like you’re saying it. And on top that what good would another season have done? What other stories could have been told? The whole series was about the period between Cochran discovering Warp travel and the founding of the Federation. And those stories had been told and wrapped up. Plus, how exactly did I blow it? I didn’t work on this show, nor did I decide on what the theme song would be. In fact, I was in middle school when the show aired. So explain that to me.
I have no problem with people not liking the song or the show for that matter. The problem comes when people decide that EVERYONE should dislike it and call it irrefutably terrible. Then, they make up multiple reasons why it is bad, none of which follow any actual logic other than the fact that they hate it. If you don’t like it say so and be honest, don’t try to make up reasons because you can’t just say “I don’t like it.”
If you had said something like “It sounds like the singer is off key” then I would have said “Okay, yeah that’s pretty bad.” And that would have been much better than “This song prevented them from getting another season.” Which sounds more like a conspiracy theory.
The theme of the show seemed to be about aspiration and looking beyond ourselves, the federation humbling themselves, I think the intro tune fit that theme perfectly.
This isn’t the enterprise we are used to, it’s early days, and the only way is forward, the theme tune understood the assignment.
It may be the black sheep of the franchise but that isn’t inherently a bad thing, Trekkies are notorious for hating change.
@@toastofcinder3547 that’s a lot of fandoms.
The best Enterprise theme song is by The Calling. (Wherever You Will Go)
Nice job...was an hour or more in before I noticed the time...😊
6:30 I like Pulaski just as much.
I enjoy this video.
The most reused prop in star trek is actually a different lamp. The aliens in star trek voyager “equinox” used the lamp to summon the aliens. Those lamps are even in the TOS, enterprise, voyager, tng
2:00 Robert Duncan McNeill likely felt he never signed up for a role that involved heavy makeup and prosthetics.
Marcus is Back
Can't believe you'd leave out Robert Duncan McNeill from the director's list, I thought he'd be #2 under Frakes! 52 directing credits on IMDB, including 4 episodes of Voyager and 4 of Enterprise.
Totally agree, wr found out a lot more about Worf in DS9 that was interesting.
Geordi wasn't an error. Geordi was swapped between universes, which is why Guinan talks to him. Canon.
It was a mistake to invent Wesley Crusher. And Alexander. Molly was a sweetheart, however brief her appearance.
I think the biggest problem, both with Wesley and Alexander, was just that the writers had no clue how to write children, and it shows. Wil Wheaton was a phenomenal actor at that point in his career already. They shouldn't have made long-term child characters before they learned how to actually write them. But I don't think Wesley was a mistake, simply because Wheaton loved the role, and it is one of the few things he looks back on fondly.
but no for real you guys, stop playing as federation from star trek online and go play Romulan republic, Empress Sella is alive and really evil
She will show up no matter who you play as. But yes as a romulan it's better. Sadly it's not canon
@@chriswilder9719 i will make it legal (cannon)
STO is a boring grind of a game no matter as whom you play, and the right answer is Klingon as everyone know, qua'pla!
I have one of each character. That's why I love STO the best. I'm not restricted to one or two characters.
Selah.
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Technically, Michael is Spock's step-sister.
If she was his half-sister they'd share DNA from his mother OR father.
She's his foster sister, no blood relationship.
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As far as Genevieve Bujold opting out of portraying Janeway, I personally think that it was for the better because her portrayal of Captain Janeway kinda put Janeway in a bad light, making her seeming to be rather cold and stand-offish
Actually Kate switched the ball in future's end to her other hand
With respect to Jennifer Lien and the character of Kes, it must have been known that she would eventually be replaced. It was established very early that her species, the Ocampa, only lived for nine years. Now it’s true that she was only about two when she came to Voyager and could have made it all the way to the seventh season. But you don’t develop a character with a tragically limited life-span without some kind of departure in mind. Kes, I’m sorry to say, was always expendable.
Actually, Garret Wang's character Harry Kim was going to be written off. But then Garret Wang was named in that years People magazines most beautiful people list. So they kept him and got rid of Kes.
@@tylerrettig835 You can have more than one expendable character, y’know. Besides didn’t Harry actually get blown out into space through an open hatch during a fight with the Vidiians, and then replaced by an alternate version?
Maybe the reason Savvik was colder in Serch for Spock was because she was morning Spock.
1:27 threshold is an emmy award winning episode.
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2 and a half hours okay nice
Yup. Background noise for a good bit
I don't think there's any hard rule that says Klingons have to look a certain way. I actually liked the new design, personally. Remain Klingon!
In the dvd's bonus the ladies that saw the pilot at the time were saying "who does she think she is?"
The theme was used in Star Trek The Motion Picture
The last episode of Enterprise should have been near the top or even number one on the list of mistakes. Placing the entire show as a program running on the hollodeck on Enterprise Generations. The crew interaction with Riker also tainted the last scene of Archer hugging T'pal. And the writers were so lazy that they tossed away the perfect ending of Archer's speach to open the Federation. Even placing his speach to the smaller group from earlier in the episode to the end of the last episode would have been preferable to a snide remark that the superior TNG counselor had memorized it years ago. Slap upon slap.
1:24:30 Airplane 2
Oh dear, Marcus needs his ST badge removed - Star Trek IV - the undiscovered country? 51.08 in. Naughty 🤣
In Skin of Evil, when Riker is pulled into the goop, you see the carriage where Riker lies upon.
First time i've seen that was 20seconds ago, watching this video. (1h28m28s)
Weren't the aliens who infiltrated the Federation in the TNG 'Conspiracy' arc originally supposed to be the Borg?
There's a district lack of a save lower decks video.
It got a good 5 season run.
I’ve got faith. Faith of the heart. Now you’ll have that stuck in your head all day long.
They are open TITLES, the CREDITS are at the end.
When it comes to reused footage, TNG is the worst offender. In dozens of episodes, the shot of the Enterprise sliding in from the bottom left to give a view of the ship from behind, is used and reused. The same ship movement, and worse, the same star pattern; the four star (box) constellation in the centre is the dead giveaway.
Them lights in the unknown machine first appeared in airplane 2 the sequel with William Shatner
If they had accepted The Cage, Star Trek would have been very different, perhaps not as good.
For one thing, in that alternate ST universe, Volcan was not the more advanced culture that mane first contact with Earth, Volcan was conquered by Earth.
. I don't get how Kirstie Alley thought she could demand more money for ST3. ST2 was her film debut. She was nobody before that.
Then there's the actor who played Joaquin in ST2 going uncredited over a money dispute. I get the impression there was some type of issue behind the scenes with Paramount lowballing everybody and it's less about the actors demanding unreasonable salaries as it is with them being offered adequate salaries.