Miko Can't Read Kanata's Message With Difficult Kanji...
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- 【 Sakura Miko / Amane Kanata / hololive 】
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1:13 the moment when Miko leans forward for a closer look 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kanata activated Miko's gamer mode with Kanji
she leans forward and does that look of pure concentration and determination.
That was so funny.
and she definitely had her mouth open trying to say whats written HAHAHAHAHA
and gets it wrong
Miko’s a pro at deftly changing her avatar expressions to elicit the best comedic response 😂
It's to the point where I'm starting to think that Mikochi's avatar expressions changes based on her real expressions instead of a toggle.
@@venerablesimp nah, mikochi is a real anime girl
I wonder if she’s ever reached for her streamdeck irl to change her face before realizing she isn’t streaming
@@khov Watame is great, so is Chloe and Fubuki but honestly I think Miko is in a league of her own and it isn't close. She's spent years perfecting combinations of her models expressions and her irl expressions along with camera angles to get different subtle emotions to show. For example she uses an angry face to show anger but depending on the shape of her mouth and camera angle she will also use it to show seriousness or confusion. If she gets scared she can use the crying face but when she wants to show she got scared by a prank she'll use a surprised face and quickly switch to crying and then angry when chat laughs at her. It's the details and how fast she does them that makes her feel so lifelike.
@@Shivalry1018 Yeah, watching Miko you almost forget that's not her real face.
1:15 When Miko’s mouth does that little freak out that is the funniest shit! Her expressions are unrivaled.
Miko's mom will probably cry watching this
Her mom will tell her again that it’s embarrassing 😂
Elito nihongo jouzu
I felt like heat was radiating off my screen from her brain overheating. Like, physically felt it. It was palpable.
Don't get too close, you'll go achu achu too
Angry Miko is adorable
1:03 her first pause is so funny lol
弄 is mostly used in 弄る (ijiru, to bully) but Kanata used it for the more obscure 弄ぶ (moteasobu, to toy with). This is more often written as もて遊ぶ.
So Miko just gave up as trying to read it as the correct word and read it as a wrong version of "ijiru" instead.
Personally I see 弄ぶ way more than 弄る because usually that's just written in kana.
Ooohhh, a rare useful information in a YT comment section! TSKR!
I'm pretty surprised that もてあそぶ is considered a more obscure reading since I see it a lot in light novels and shit.
I've always loved Miko, from the very beginning when I first discovered her on GTA. And now in the present, she's cute and hilarious.
And also her *e l i t o n o i s e s*
Miko is the only reason why I discovered Hololive. Now I'm basically watching every member of Hololive.
She might be the GOAT.
Shes probably the main reason I got interested pretty sure it was Miko and Korone that really dragged me in I actually knew about Kizuna AI but never understood about Vtubers till way later when I started watching Hololive during the pandemic
I've been waiting for this and it lived up to expectations. Powering through and moving on without understanding. Truly Elite behavior.
Miko was pretty cute during the whole ordeal of activating all her neurons to read the kanjis
that means she constantly rubs her two braincells together. Because she's always cute.
shes just like me with my kanji tests fr
She just gave up at the end
Anya : "listen here, noob"
Kanata put so much kanji into this message that it almost looks like it's chinese
this is amazing. kanata assaulting miko with kanji, and elite miko not being able to read the kanji.
kaigai nihongo fears slightly assuaded knowing that elite miko with nihongo skills exists.
And she was right at every part lmao 🤣
Loved the translated pun with the nye lmao
From 2 year ago until now, my friend still thinking & believe that Miko is not pure japanese. 😅
I know you're joking, but I think I remember reading somewhere that even many actual native Japanese speakers that can't read *all* of the kanji. And then there are even kanji that are older and aren't really used anymore that would be confusing, too.
Personally, to compare it to English, it's like how some people have a larger vocabulary than others.
@@Pseudowolf
Well, I hope my friend is joking too.
Yeah, that's true, I think a japanese people/student in youtube(I forgot) said the most difficult subject in school or for them is kanji.
@@Pseudowolf There are more than 50,000 kanji and an adult only needs to know a few thousand to read newspapers.
@@Pseudowolf It's not about vocabulary. It's pure *visual memory and effort.* The Kanji or the Hanzi's like an advanced form of hieroglyphs than the alphabets we're taught. In other popular writing systems you do not have to visualize anything to use high level vocabulary so it's really not comparable. Also it's a good thing that the Japanese students are forsaking the Kanji/Hanzi. Because they were first created to save space and takes too much time and effort to master so it's completely useless in modern times. Basically in such societies people with ADHD are fucked. Which makes up roughly 13% of the student population. So you can say that China, Taiwan and Japan operates at about 87% efficiency.
Some people also believe Anya Melfissa is not really Indonesian.
Ask any Brits person to translate some of the typical stereotypical British accent that not cockney or London.
ask any typical average Japanese to decipher Kanji writing on some historical novels.
both questions above will resulted in Hololive Sakura Miko.
She just like : F this shit I'm out ~
I love how this started as Kanata writing her original message and started wondering if Miko could read even that.
Tho ngl I currently couldn't read all of that either.
I like how all of it went over her head. Truly elite.
PPT is too smart xD
Would have died if Miko was like, "...Chat! What does this say?!"
mikochi is too funny 🤣
Kanata: "I think I'm looking down on her too much..."
Narrator: "She was, in fact, not looking down on her ENOUGH..."
Miko is just adorable
her bgm fit perfectly at this moment lol
Kanata: Think she can read "moteasobu?" haha of course she can, I'm looking down on her too much.
Miko: 1:04
"This sign can't stop me. I CAN'T READ"
I hope one day Miko will become as proficient in Japanese as a native speaker
God I love miko she is gold no matter what she does
1:17
My goldfish looking at me
Kanata pushing Miko to her limits 😂
Kanata really hit Miko with the double space MLA format 5 page essay
Lol kanata got her good
I saw a video, couple of years ago, talking about how Japan did a referendum in which they proposed to the public the idea of abandoning Kanji. It didn't pass, but I get why they tried. I mean, JPN is so hard that even JPN speakers can't read it LOL. I still remember how Botan, her first time in Minecraft right after her debut, read out loud Pekora's name from a sign (The Usada portion), and couldn't figure it out it was her name. THAT BOTAN couldn't do it lol
if you read it as chinese it's actually easier and identical to the original meaning, which makes sense cause it's Kanji/han characters
計画通り
TL note: 計画 means plan
It's not fair. Miko is holo en gen0
0:18 Kanata even without what happened LOL 😂
1:14 ELITE internal struggle
Now Miko feels like we feel when we watch the JP Holo. XD
Natives not being able to read kanji makes me feel a bit better about my japanese studies.
1:01
"Ah, hard kanji... Hm... Yeah, that sounds right-nye... Kusooo... Wait..."
*squints, leans closer, mouths words*
"Okay... Wait... Is that right? Meh, close enough, attention span depleted-nye."
Well, Kanatan was right. Mikochi can't read 'moteasobu' after all.
But damn. Japanese Kanji is haaaard. The same letter in different pairings are read differently.
Not really, it just time consuming. The first one "弄ぶ" give you the context of the kun reading (moteaso.BU) instead of the typical one (iji.RU), the later being the one that Mikochi confuses with. The other three expresion "笑止千万", "臥薪嘗胆" and "罵詈雑言" are yojijukugo; lexeme of four characters that are akin to adages or proverbs. Some have a more common use that others because they are idiomatic phrases, so you need a certain background to understand them.
@@TehAsdfg Hoo I see. I often heard cool-sounding 4 letter kanji, I didn't know they are called yojijukugo. And that they are not common enough for even native JP to understand or even read. TIL I guess. Thanks.
@@venerablesimp Ya the yojiukugo is very similar to their cn counterparts, so I wouldn't be surprised in seeing a bunch of proverbs that's commonly used as well. It's probably why the proverbs basically only use the cn-based (I think it's like on'yomi?) readings of the kanji (笑 = shou instead of the common wara). With Japanese, the whole like "multiple different ways to pronounce the same word" always trips me up too.
To be fair Miko did read the "hardest" kanji of them all corectly; 詈 ri
All other are jouyou (taught in school) or jinmeiyou (used in names)
If you don't know this kanji you would probably guess that it is pronounced gen, gon, kon or ken.
At some point, being that much more time consuming just makes it hard, if for no other reason than you start forgetting things you've already learned by the time you've learned the last few items.
Japanese has so many edge cases and exceptions wth Kanji that you are 100% going to forget a bunch.
4th best in HoloEN! 🎉
☑弄る(iji ru)
☑弄ぶ(moteaso bu)
🌸弄ぶ(iji bu)
Give Miko a break. Holo-EN is learning.
Kanata was barely even able to read it herself when she wrote it so, yeah, Miko wasn't going to have much luck.
Definitely an elite brain itching moment
Japanese: Reading Kanji is hard
Chinese: Laughs in kanji
No kana and no context...
This must have been absolutely brutal to understand, let alone actually translate! Very well done, Miko is at her best when she's confused and stubbornly continuing anyway
Bro, that's a calling card right there.
Bro that's kinda adorable lmao
"Joke's on you, I can't read."
elite heartbeat go max 😂
ya can see her hp bar draining
I'm with you Miko
What is with this white haired devil anyway??
wwwww
Triangle-mouth moment.
Sasuga Elite, her japanese is getting better. Outside Jp members, she's deff second to (EN and ID) in Japanese.
It's okay Miko, English only has one alphabet and some people can't even get that right.
I feel slightly better for my struggles to even begin learning kanji when literate native speakers don't know what the hell those chatacters are.
part of me wants to laugh, and part of me knows i can't read any of it either
Hololive ENs elite baby
This is such a good clip
Sasuga flexing tenshi
I like how whoever is translating this is a certified weeabo. Only a weeabo would know Kanji that nobody knows by heart
I'm looking forward to more holomems reading that compilation 🤣
ah yes, illiteracy, the funniest joke.
Gorilla smarter than human baby. Wakata
At least I don't feel so bad about not getting it either. Trying to memorise kanji is a big hurdle for me.
She's in an area between EN and JP
To be fair to Miko she is only fluent in Elite.
She can read some
That's good
Smae Miko...
Yes, Kanatan.. you're right. Mikochi didn't even read 弄ぶ correctly. 🤔
Mikochi's super cute though.
Kanji drill lol
To think that this was very likely the result of some *sshol* nobles and royalties not wanting plebs to read so they vehemently refused to make letters based on phonetics . . .
It was actually because writing was prohibitively expensive, so the solution was to make extremely space efficient characters and spelling. The result being innumerable redundant characters and a heavily modular written language, and for some reason an obscene amount of hyper-specific onomatopoeia.
@@KaleidosXXI IDK if the onomatopeia has anything to do with kanji - does Chinese also have a comparable amount of them for example?
Don't be harsh with the Mikobaby she's still learning to read
what do you waiting for she is from hololive EN of course she cant read Kanji🤣
Sasuga Elito, being the 4th best in japanese among those in Hololive English XD
i swear i saw Fuji-san
Me when I see any basic kanji...
It’s a kind of you learned but never use kanji.
Kanata underestimated Miko's inability to be fluent in Kanji
Start studying Japanese with this in mind.
You all need to cut her some slack. Japanese is her 2nd language, her native lang is Elite English. You can't expect her to know every kanji permutation there is!
aenbien !!
Well jokes on you cause i can't read!
As a Chinese viewer... welp, what can I say, Kanji / Hanzi can be difficult sometimes xD
i wanna know if Anya could read that XD
is interesting how in most languages you learn to read at age of 8, but in others like japanese even adults can't read some stuff
Miko is a EN member 😂
Miko is an Elite member. She is still learning english and japanese ^~
I don't know about the kanji stuff, but the English version impossible enough I would say
Mikochi is an elite EN comedian, not a JP school girl!! Why would Kanata test her so! 🫢
Sasuga maou sama your english is much better anyway
臥薪嘗胆、これ日本人でも読める人はあまりいないだろうな。
Lol
I hope non-Japanese people understand that Miko is NOT some kind of illiterate dummy. Those are very rare kanji pronunciations that any Japanese person would struggle with.
The classic definition of being literate is "able to read and write".
Soooo....
Kanata speaks Japanese better than miko. Lol