The NATO codename was obviously suggested by the British, with tongue firmly in cheek: MFI ('multi-functional front line fighter') = MFI (Mullard Furniture Industries) - a large national furniture company in the UK that specialised in cheap self-assembly furniture, and who dominated the UK market until driven out of business by competition from Ikea.
Soviet aircraft looks so pretty I wish the NATO countries that still have them in service could get manufacturing licenses and upgrade these designs to NATO standards.
OMG yes, Love this plane and want to learn more about it. This and the Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-8 are some realy 'what might have been' aircraft that had some very modern features.
The game Ace Combat 5 released in 2004 featured this aircraft. It was classified as Multirole, and had unguided bombs carried internally. It had excellent speed and maneuverability, and had performance characteristics typical of a 4.5 or 5th gen fighter.
It's bizarre what planes they decide to add or leave out in AC games. AC7 has the darkstar concept as dlc and the blackwidow 2 in vanilla..but not this
Honestly, I'm still happy to see the MiG-1.44 still fly. It deserves at least that. Still has a certain beauty to it that I rather like even if I found the designation a little iffy.
Basically the last new deisgn from the MiG design bureau, before it got reduced to making just modernized 29s in the decades that followed as Sukhoi's dominance took over Russian aerospace. The MiG-35 that actually ended up being built and in service is nothing more than a MiG 29 airframe with modernised avionics and new engines.
As a Brit of a certain vintage, I'm wondering if the NATO codename of the prototype, 'Flatpack', was chosen by a fellow Briton and had something to do with its 'MFI' designation, MFI, at that time, being a purveyor of flat-pack furniture.
@@shaider1982, I guess so, but without the one-way system, the weirdly named products or the meatballs. I seem to remember that they sold a lot of chipboard and melamine furniture. They did kitchens too, at one point they were everywhere. They went out of business in 2008.
It's interesting that they went with an air intake under the body, given the Soviet's obsession with operation from unimproved airfields (and the FOD dangers that come with it.) This is why many think Ukraine will stay away from adopting the F-16. And I'm skeptical about the internal weapons storage. I'm sure the engines were big, and after you fit the landing gear where would that weapons bay go?
Have you ever seen where the intakes are located on Su-27 series aircraft, and the MiG-29? FOD issues were solved long ago with debris doors and shutters located elsewhere, usually on top of the intake as in the MiG-29.
Or....you could maintain your runways. Seems cheaper and easier to sweep the runway then design debris doors into your fighter that you have to spend time and money maintaining.
@@kdrapertrucker Oh yes! Indeed! But...I wonder,could it be that the Russians even with their inferior mentality when compared to all of the western geniuses might be thinking that those runways wouldn't be so easy to maintain in times of conflict? Surely not!
@@orlandoventor1754 No no! The Ruskies are dumb barbarians that built systems to actually work in a conflict! You must put yourself into the NPC state when on UA-cam, especially channels like this. No independent thought processes are allowed.
When it comes to unimproved airfields - i've read an interview with Russian offices and he stated there ia a big difference in this regard between Su-27/35 fighters which are delicate, requiring clean maintained airstrips and MiG-29 which was rugged and could takeoff and land from basically any hardened spot like Su-25.
Could fire missiles backwards, was an amazing aircraft. Ahead of its time. If the USSR continued their upcoming aircraft would have been crazy, yak-141, 1.44, the Sukhois would have entered service earlier and in greater numbers.
One of my favourite “what if” aircraft. I’ve been dying to get my hands on a diecast model or a prebuilt and painted kit model but sadly I haven’t come across any of these to add to my collection
@@svartmetall yeah it’s a model kit. I’m the world’s worst painter and don’t really have the time to learn to become better. If you feel like building and painting it for me let me know :D
@@Zorglub1966 yeah I’ve checked on there and my country’s version of eBay. I’ve gotten quite a few models I couldn’t have found otherwise like this but this one still hasn’t popped up. If you ever stumble upon it, please do let me know in this comment :)
I think in the end, the engineers at TsAGI figured out that the radar cross signature of the MiG design was not really that great. As such, Sukhoi started over again with a better design that became the Su-57.
@@DIREWOLFx75 I think the success in selling the Su-27/33/35 proved crucial in the Russian Air Force selecting what became the Su-57. With a little more development, the Su-57 could be a truly phenomenal fighter.
People may say it wasn't stealthy but there is stealth everywhere you look. The overall design approach was for a blend of continuous curvature and 0 90° rather than hard angles only. It would preserve the aerodynamic capabilities that 5th generation aircraft typically lose with the hard angles. None of the hard angles on the aircraft are actually 90° either. Different philosophy.
Ikr lol. When he said it was designed with stealth in mind, I was like "What???". As the old saying goes: there are 4 steps to rcs reduction, shape, shape, shape, and materials. I think they skipped some steps 😂
Clint Eastwood made a movie in the eighties where he plays an American pilot who speaks Russian and he is chosen to steal the soviet Foxfire (based on MiG/1.42) which is controlled by the pilots THOUGHTS. Since Clint's character speaks Russian he can think in Russian and the advanced helmet follows his thoughts. It's as nuts as it sounds. I'm a MiG 15 fan, also a Sabre fan.
2:20 That would be Su-47 Berkut not Mig- 1.44. Out of the two Berkut was selected and it was supposed to go on and have a lot more modifications. But USSR collapsed.
A very commonly misquoted detail: the MFI was actually Project 1.42 (NATO codename Foxglove). Project 1.44 (Flatpack) was the tecnology demonstrator. Though the two are very similar, 1.42 was the end product. Think of it like the difference between the JSF X-35 and the F-35A.
People should keep in mind that the MiG 1.44 was a technology demonstrator and would have undergone many changes before entering production. Also, it wasn't supposed to be a 5 Gen aircraft, but a heavy 4++ that would reduce the gap between the F22 and the Soviet Air force. A sort of very maneuverable MiG-25 or heavy Typhoon, with some stealthy features but NOT a stealth fighter.
As I was watching this video Ed, I couldn't help but feel as though I'd seen this plane somewhere before. Am I looking at the real-life inspiration for the movie that starred Clint Eastwood called Firefox?
A single look at the Mig 1.44 prototype shows that it isn't even a little bit stealth. That gap between airintake and fuselage alone creates a bigger radar return than the entire F-22. And let's not even get started on the fact that it was put together with rivets.
There is no way this design can be made stealthy. Adding a bomb bay would have dramatically change aerodynamics, leading to a very different aircraft, to start with. Then, engine lips would have required an extensive redesign. And many parts would have had to be replaced by composite or radar absorbent materials. This aircraft is not even a demonstrator, in that respect.
I'm not sure it would be successfull or not, but it looked SO much better than Su-57. But Soviet Union had incomparably greater resources, industry and engineering base than Russia. My brother had small photo of 1.44, cut from newspaper, when he was a kid.
I remembered this plane and the Su-47 as the Russian attempts at a post-4th gen fighter before settling on the more practical Su-35. Did anything ever come of the “plasma stealth” claims?
Never heard anything about the"Plasma Stealth" thing. But most likely it's the propose fighters ECM/EW suites along with it's Stealth Coating. I dunno, that's the only thing I can think of that is close to how it would work.
LOL but the Chengdu J-10 may also be derived from the cancelled Israeli fighter IAI Lavi and design/technology aspects from other Westsern fighters like the F-16, Saab Viggen...
Where would the radar have fitted? thats a very pointed nose. Also massive radar trap between the air intakes and the body of the aircraft presumably as they hadnt solved the issue of body air.
I recollect having read that the 1.44 was to use some sort of aircraft enveloping magnetic shield to enhance stealth characteristics and that the factory could not get this to work properly.
She's not the prettiest plane I've ever seen, but I think that foot print scaled up to make a super sonic STOL light transport or platform for launching anti-ship or medium range cruise missiles or cratering bombs (designed to take out roads or airfields) might have been an interesting idea as a vehicle to do a lot of dirty work kinda like the old World War II light fighter bombers did.. At least in an age before drone, as well those are cheaper to operate and maintain. I'm not sure you could take out a Escort Destroyer or a Helicopter Carrier with one mind which you could do with a light-medium super sonic missile platform . Has anyone ever thought about using a jet to drop Torpedoes that might be an idea too. So I like the ideas it inspires more than the thing itself that looks more like an F-15 XL wannabe to me than an F-22 wannabe. It's kinda cute though in a 'the prettiest girl at the tractor factory' kinda way.
The soviets had some really good aircraft designers. They didn't need to copy our stuff, they just didn't have the technology to bring the designs to production. That's what they had to steal and reverse engineer.
The Cold War never ended. It changed shape as the Soviet Union dissolved, but it didn't end. We still have adversaries with nuclear weapons, and people haven't changed.
I mean how can you tell? The Rafale supposed had the best stealthy characteristics among 3.5 gen fighters, yet it looks more like MiG 1.44 than most other aircraft of its class.
The next generation of fighters will have no pilots. It is already here with drones. A fighter without a pilot doesn't need heavy life support systems, can pull unlimited Gas with no pilot to black out and can carry far more fuel without all that room wasted on a pilot It can also be a lot smaller. There is also the fact hat this generation of video gamers would be perfect.
"Muh high g" Ever since like Iran-Iraq war the side with better missiles, stealth and radars wins. Dogfights are dead. Ukraine-Russia war confirms that paradigm once again, since currently the biggest headache of UAF are Russian air to air missiles launched from 100km+ with Ukrainian planes getting barely any warning from passive seekers.
This looks like it would have been a good 4.5 Gen fighter and a decent match for early eurofighters. (It won't have good avionics after all) but it would have been slaughtered by the Raptor.
The Mig 31 had a pretty impressive radar for its time, actually even beeing the first electronically scanned one in a fighter jet ever used, with lots of data linkage functionally on top that rivals many even more modern western planes. however, the mig31 is basically built around the avionics and the engines, thus its a massive heavy thing that allows for some more crude components to be used and it cant dogfight. that technology would have needed to be massively modernized and downsized for the mig 1.42 to be somewhat competetive.
The MiG 31 had a mechanically scanned zasalon radar. You mistaken about somethings there. Also what you talk about are communication links not avionics. Russia did not have digital avionics yet in the 1980s and probably wouldn't for another 20 years if history was more kind to the Soviet Union.
Russian Mig1.44 is just a half done dream plane...it even never get into army...it is in museum now,how can China copy a D to get a A+ score?If you agree that China copy,you mean Chinese is much more clever than Russian ,dude.
nah...Even J-10 is closer in design to the Mig 1.44, than J20. At least the air-intakes are both underneath. J20 in contrast, has DSI side intakes, has LEX between canard and the main delta wing, has a larger boxier body with three internal weapon bays, has full operable vertical stabilizer, has low RCS ... Man that left not much similarity in aerodynamic design between the two. Not even sure if Mig itself can "copy" an 1.44 into an J20...
Meh, something about that 1.44's shape just doesn't do it for me. Never been a fan but it's possible a production model would have looked differently in the same way the F-22 looks better IMHO than the YF-22. Nice video!!
Chinese spy at the shop. Hmmm. MiG 1.44 planform and wingbox, let’s get the ventral fins too. Next, f35 ray-dome and cockpit. Don’t forget the intakes stealth design! Lastly, we will design our own shitty solutions to the engines because we need maximum thrust out of our underpowered engines, who needs rear aspect stealth? Oh before I forget, I had these leftover documents about the yf23 all moving rudders!
I feel we have seen enough Soviet/Russian wonder weapons over the past 100 years to take anything they tell us with a grain of salt. Until it is actually put into production and tested in combat we have no way of knowing if it's actually a world beater or a complete lemon. Considering this aircraft only flew twice I'm inclined to think it was a lemon.
Another problem is that Russia and it's successors keep changing doctrines like gloves. It can't use gear properly. They have amazing stuff and have zero understanding what to do with it and how to make a thriving combined arms connection going from heavy WMD dependant use of total mobilization large force to the smaller brigade sized ones that is mobile and lacks proper infantry support, that BTG "experiment, to a need for massive army once again, as they seemingly have no idea what kind of war they want to wage; mind that when Russian hardware is used by states with competent doctrine (Israel, India examplifying) it behaves amazingly
@@diagatjl6096 Israeli was never big user of Soviet weapon they capture a few , a better example will be Vietnam who used Soviet weapon and show how much it effective again american-chinese,Cambodian.
It doesn't look very stealthy, especially with those air intakes, canards and numerous underwing projections. Radar-absorbing coating can only do so much.
The NATO codename was obviously suggested by the British, with tongue firmly in cheek: MFI ('multi-functional front line fighter') = MFI (Mullard Furniture Industries) - a large national furniture company in the UK that specialised in cheap self-assembly furniture, and who dominated the UK market until driven out of business by competition from Ikea.
Hahahaha! Perfect mate!
Mikoyan DIY at it's finest.
And IKEA is Swedish and Swedish VIkings liberated parts of UK and the Russians fears the WASA ship and Gripen.
@@realshompa started on the weed early today did we?
The U.K. didn’t come up with the names, the US did
I love the Soviet esthetic in airplane design, favorite being TU-22M but they are all very stylish.
The original Tu-22 was.. less attractive.
I agree, MiG 1.44 looked so much better than meh Su-57.
Soviet aircraft looks so pretty
I wish the NATO countries that still have them in service could get manufacturing licenses and upgrade these designs to NATO standards.
OMG yes, Love this plane and want to learn more about it. This and the Mikoyan-Gurevich Ye-8 are some realy 'what might have been' aircraft that had some very modern features.
The game Ace Combat 5 released in 2004 featured this aircraft. It was classified as Multirole, and had unguided bombs carried internally. It had excellent speed and maneuverability, and had performance characteristics typical of a 4.5 or 5th gen fighter.
It's bizarre what planes they decide to add or leave out in AC games. AC7 has the darkstar concept as dlc and the blackwidow 2 in vanilla..but not this
@@doodsalot270
Yeaaah, a lot of it has to do with permissions and licensing from the manufacturer to use their design in the games 😔
Ace Combat 5 was amazing. Miss those old games.
The first Air Force Delta for Dreamcast had this plane but it looked different. (and better in my opinion) It was also the last boss.
Honestly, I'm still happy to see the MiG-1.44 still fly. It deserves at least that. Still has a certain beauty to it that I rather like even if I found the designation a little iffy.
Parts of it fly in the J-20 as parts from F 22 and Eurofighter do. Would like to see a comprehensive video about it.
Basically the last new deisgn from the MiG design bureau, before it got reduced to making just modernized 29s in the decades that followed as Sukhoi's dominance took over Russian aerospace. The MiG-35 that actually ended up being built and in service is nothing more than a MiG 29 airframe with modernised avionics and new engines.
And the Mig-35 will be lucky to see more than 36 jets ever made
Always interesting stuff Ed. 👍👍
Thanks 👍
As a Brit of a certain vintage, I'm wondering if the NATO codename of the prototype, 'Flatpack', was chosen by a fellow Briton and had something to do with its 'MFI' designation, MFI, at that time, being a purveyor of flat-pack furniture.
That is entirely possible :)
Interesting, is this sort of like a British Ikea?
@@shaider1982, I guess so, but without the one-way system, the weirdly named products or the meatballs.
I seem to remember that they sold a lot of chipboard and melamine furniture. They did kitchens too, at one point they were everywhere.
They went out of business in 2008.
@@shaider1982 kinda but of lower quality one of the nicknames was "Made for Idiots"
It's interesting that they went with an air intake under the body, given the Soviet's obsession with operation from unimproved airfields (and the FOD dangers that come with it.) This is why many think Ukraine will stay away from adopting the F-16. And I'm skeptical about the internal weapons storage. I'm sure the engines were big, and after you fit the landing gear where would that weapons bay go?
Have you ever seen where the intakes are located on Su-27 series aircraft, and the MiG-29? FOD issues were solved long ago with debris doors and shutters located elsewhere, usually on top of the intake as in the MiG-29.
Or....you could maintain your runways. Seems cheaper and easier to sweep the runway then design debris doors into your fighter that you have to spend time and money maintaining.
@@kdrapertrucker Oh yes! Indeed! But...I wonder,could it be that the Russians even with their inferior mentality when compared to all of the western geniuses might be thinking that those runways wouldn't be so easy to maintain in times of conflict? Surely not!
@@orlandoventor1754 No no! The Ruskies are dumb barbarians that built systems to actually work in a conflict!
You must put yourself into the NPC state when on UA-cam, especially channels like this.
No independent thought processes are allowed.
When it comes to unimproved airfields - i've read an interview with Russian offices and he stated there ia a big difference in this regard between Su-27/35 fighters which are delicate, requiring clean maintained airstrips and MiG-29 which was rugged and could takeoff and land from basically any hardened spot like Su-25.
Could fire missiles backwards, was an amazing aircraft. Ahead of its time. If the USSR continued their upcoming aircraft would have been crazy, yak-141, 1.44, the Sukhois would have entered service earlier and in greater numbers.
NATO missed the opportunity to call it the 1.44 Floppy …
Sooorry, I see myself out!
This thing looks as stealthy as whoopie goldberg at an all-you-can-eat buffet at a Klan meeting.
Thank you Ed, that is fantastic content again!
One of my favourite “what if” aircraft. I’ve been dying to get my hands on a diecast model or a prebuilt and painted kit model but sadly I haven’t come across any of these to add to my collection
Zvezda make a 1/72 version, calling it the MiG 1.44...hth
@@svartmetall yeah it’s a model kit. I’m the world’s worst painter and don’t really have the time to learn to become better. If you feel like building and painting it for me let me know :D
@@mustang5132 You can try e bay, sometimes there are some modelers who sell built and painted models.
@@Zorglub1966 yeah I’ve checked on there and my country’s version of eBay. I’ve gotten quite a few models I couldn’t have found otherwise like this but this one still hasn’t popped up. If you ever stumble upon it, please do let me know in this comment :)
It must have been seen as a bit of a joke to call the MFI the Flatpack😉
You could see it in action in Command and Conquer General game.
WE DEFEND CHINA'S AIRSPACE!
I think in the end, the engineers at TsAGI figured out that the radar cross signature of the MiG design was not really that great. As such, Sukhoi started over again with a better design that became the Su-57.
@@DIREWOLFx75 I think the success in selling the Su-27/33/35 proved crucial in the Russian Air Force selecting what became the Su-57. With a little more development, the Su-57 could be a truly phenomenal fighter.
@@DIREWOLFx75 I believe that if it did went through to service it will probably around the same level as the Eurofighter at least at the time.
Su-57 is not stealthy at all, it is low observable like the F/A-18 E/F super hornet.
@@kdrapertrucker The Su-57 has internal weapons bay. The Super Hornet does not.
@@kdrapertrucker source? "aviation geek club" lol. no official sources, only baseless claims backed by lies
Such a great looking jet. Imagine if they actually put it into service.
Never knew about this aircraft, thanks for the video!
The Chinese later copied the design and stuck Napalm missiles on it.
God I miss C&C. TD through C&C3 all deserve AOE2 Definitive Edition-quality remasters.
C&C:Generals was awesome.👍
Its zero hour reference?
You thought that's a joke and a C&C Generals reference but look at J-20...
Wonder if it comes with napalm missiles
That reference threw me down nostalgia lane. Good Times.
People may say it wasn't stealthy but there is stealth everywhere you look. The overall design approach was for a blend of continuous curvature and 0 90° rather than hard angles only. It would preserve the aerodynamic capabilities that 5th generation aircraft typically lose with the hard angles. None of the hard angles on the aircraft are actually 90° either. Different philosophy.
Awesome thanks 👍
Thank you Ed.....
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From the 1/4 view, it looks like it is made of nothing but radar traps. The boundary splitter alone...... ouch.
Ikr lol. When he said it was designed with stealth in mind, I was like "What???". As the old saying goes: there are 4 steps to rcs reduction, shape, shape, shape, and materials. I think they skipped some steps 😂
Clint Eastwood made a movie in the eighties where he plays an American pilot who speaks Russian and he is chosen to steal the soviet Foxfire (based on MiG/1.42) which is controlled by the pilots THOUGHTS. Since Clint's character speaks Russian he can think in Russian and the advanced helmet follows his thoughts. It's as nuts as it sounds. I'm a MiG 15 fan, also a Sabre fan.
I think that movie is better known than you think buddy :)
Called firefox
One of my favorite movies !
@@ozzy7763 Clint makes insane stories sound and look good.
“Think Russian.”
2:20 That would be Su-47 Berkut not Mig- 1.44.
Out of the two Berkut was selected and it was supposed to go on and have a lot more modifications. But USSR collapsed.
I for one salute our new algorithmic overlords
A very commonly misquoted detail: the MFI was actually Project 1.42 (NATO codename Foxglove). Project 1.44 (Flatpack) was the tecnology demonstrator. Though the two are very similar, 1.42 was the end product. Think of it like the difference between the JSF X-35 and the F-35A.
It was fun to play in Ace Combat 5
Always wary of wonder designs that never have to undergo the rigours of actual service life.
Is this a wind-up? 'flatpack' part of the MFI program?
Brilliant video mate.
People should keep in mind that the MiG 1.44 was a technology demonstrator and would have undergone many changes before entering production. Also, it wasn't supposed to be a 5 Gen aircraft, but a heavy 4++ that would reduce the gap between the F22 and the Soviet Air force. A sort of very maneuverable MiG-25 or heavy Typhoon, with some stealthy features but NOT a stealth fighter.
Wtf? It was not meant to be anything like MiG25 interceptor.
@@TheGrindcorps I meant "a very maneuverable MiG-31 of sorts".
As I was watching this video Ed, I couldn't help but feel as though I'd seen this plane somewhere before. Am I looking at the real-life inspiration for the movie that starred Clint Eastwood called Firefox?
As the movie came out in 1982 (IIRC), maybe the Soviets decided to "copy paste" the Hollywood design! ;)
Ever play C&C Generals?
12 internal hardpoints? Where exactly were they going to cram those?
All that Jazz indeed!
Low RCS with those intakes?
Soviet collapse was no excuse for aiming low, or making ugly aircraft. 👍
A single look at the Mig 1.44 prototype shows that it isn't even a little bit stealth. That gap between airintake and fuselage alone creates a bigger radar return than the entire F-22. And let's not even get started on the fact that it was put together with rivets.
It kooks much bigger when you see the pilot in it
The Soviet fighter at 0:40. Not a MiG 15. Lavochkin LA-7?
Ooooo! Think you are right. La-15 I think, ironic because that is one I am working on!
3:40 "was to integrate stealth characteristics" with plenty of 90-degree angles 🤣
Yeah...they dont seem to have got the memo on that.
There is no way this design can be made stealthy.
Adding a bomb bay would have dramatically change aerodynamics, leading to a very different aircraft, to start with.
Then, engine lips would have required an extensive redesign.
And many parts would have had to be replaced by composite or radar absorbent materials.
This aircraft is not even a demonstrator, in that respect.
Mig is very smart.
I'm not sure it would be successfull or not, but it looked SO much better than Su-57. But Soviet Union had incomparably greater resources, industry and engineering base than Russia. My brother had small photo of 1.44, cut from newspaper, when he was a kid.
Liked: "All that jazz".
Wow, that’s a gorgeous plane! Not quite as gorgeous as the SU 57 though.
I remembered this plane and the Su-47 as the Russian attempts at a post-4th gen fighter before settling on the more practical Su-35.
Did anything ever come of the “plasma stealth” claims?
Never heard anything about the"Plasma Stealth" thing.
But most likely it's the propose fighters ECM/EW suites along with it's Stealth Coating. I dunno, that's the only thing I can think of that is close to how it would work.
I have to express scepticism about how stealthy it would have been. I especially do not like the vertical stabilizers.
LOL but the Chengdu J-10 may also be derived from the cancelled Israeli fighter IAI Lavi and design/technology aspects from other Westsern fighters like the F-16, Saab Viggen...
Literally has nothing to do with any of these
MFI... ah so that is why it was called the "Flat Pack" then ?
J 10 must come from this MiG 1.44
Oooh, mini Firefox!
If they paint it black and call it Firefox that would be cool
It looks like an inedible fish.
Where would the radar have fitted? thats a very pointed nose. Also massive radar trap between the air intakes and the body of the aircraft presumably as they hadnt solved the issue of body air.
I recollect having read that the 1.44 was to use some sort of aircraft enveloping magnetic shield to enhance stealth characteristics and that the factory could not get this to work properly.
She's not the prettiest plane I've ever seen, but I think that foot print scaled up to make a super sonic STOL light transport or platform for launching anti-ship or medium range cruise missiles or cratering bombs (designed to take out roads or airfields) might have been an interesting idea as a vehicle to do a lot of dirty work kinda like the old World War II light fighter bombers did.. At least in an age before drone, as well those are cheaper to operate and maintain.
I'm not sure you could take out a Escort Destroyer or a Helicopter Carrier with one mind which you could do with a light-medium super sonic missile platform . Has anyone ever thought about using a jet to drop Torpedoes that might be an idea too. So I like the ideas it inspires more than the thing itself that looks more like an F-15 XL wannabe to me than an F-22 wannabe. It's kinda cute though in a 'the prettiest girl at the tractor factory' kinda way.
Is it just me or does this interesting plane bear *more* than a passing resemblance to the just as ill fated Ye-8?
Nice if I declare my house as an independent micronation I will be able to assemble my own jet fighter airforce even on a ham sammich defense budget
اعتقد ان الثعلب النارى الروسى fire fox هو من هذه الطائرة وان روسيا ستندم على عدم إكمال تصنيع وتحديث 1.44الى ميج 35 الثعلب النارى
F-22A flying footage : "from USAF"
Ah sorry man, I thought it was USMC, I almost got excited
Sure, a Marine F/A-18 could be recording it.
supercruise at supersonic speeds... damn. double supersonic 😅
The soviets had some really good aircraft designers. They didn't need to copy our stuff, they just didn't have the technology to bring the designs to production. That's what they had to steal and reverse engineer.
Is Viggen ripoff!? 😂
it looks nothing like a viggen
going by your proile pic i think you need new glasses
Like the Commanche, this had a longer service life as a video game vehicle, in this case, C&C Generals.
Also some Ace Combat games
Russia's TSR2 story
Very good interesting video.
Even for its time, its construction looked to be 10-15 years behind.
Course riveting and a general design, that was mostly based on the 70's.
The Cold War never ended. It changed shape as the Soviet Union dissolved, but it didn't end. We still have adversaries with nuclear weapons, and people haven't changed.
F22 great in bvr but in close combat got it's ass kicked by the Eurofighter
Just one look at it and I can say there no way it had very good radar masking capabilities. This was no Stealth fighter.
I mean how can you tell? The Rafale supposed had the best stealthy characteristics among 3.5 gen fighters, yet it looks more like MiG 1.44 than most other aircraft of its class.
The f22 started design in 1996...
Yeaaaaaah... No. Way before that. First prototype was tested in 1990.
The next generation of fighters will have no pilots. It is already here with drones. A fighter without a pilot doesn't need heavy life support systems, can pull unlimited Gas with no pilot to black out and can carry far more fuel without all that room wasted on a pilot It can also be a lot smaller. There is also the fact hat this generation of video gamers would be perfect.
Pilots can take more Gs than airframes. How many times have you heard of fighter pilots overstressing their aircraft?
"Muh high g"
Ever since like Iran-Iraq war the side with better missiles, stealth and radars wins. Dogfights are dead. Ukraine-Russia war confirms that paradigm once again, since currently the biggest headache of UAF are Russian air to air missiles launched from 100km+ with Ukrainian planes getting barely any warning from passive seekers.
This looks like it would have been a good 4.5 Gen fighter and a decent match for early eurofighters. (It won't have good avionics after all) but it would have been slaughtered by the Raptor.
The Mig 31 had a pretty impressive radar for its time, actually even beeing the first electronically scanned one in a fighter jet ever used, with lots of data linkage functionally on top that rivals many even more modern western planes. however, the mig31 is basically built around the avionics and the engines, thus its a massive heavy thing that allows for some more crude components to be used and it cant dogfight. that technology would have needed to be massively modernized and downsized for the mig 1.42 to be somewhat competetive.
The MiG 31 had a mechanically scanned zasalon radar. You mistaken about somethings there. Also what you talk about are communication links not avionics. Russia did not have digital avionics yet in the 1980s and probably wouldn't for another 20 years if history was more kind to the Soviet Union.
China's J-20 is inspired by Mig 1.44
AHA, now we know who's design the PLA copied for their J-20 "Mighty Dragon".
Russian Mig1.44 is just a half done dream plane...it even never get into army...it is in museum now,how can China copy a D to get a A+ score?If you agree that China copy,you mean Chinese is much more clever than Russian ,dude.
nah...Even J-10 is closer in design to the Mig 1.44, than J20. At least the air-intakes are both underneath. J20 in contrast, has DSI side intakes, has LEX between canard and the main delta wing, has a larger boxier body with three internal weapon bays, has full operable vertical stabilizer, has low RCS ... Man that left not much similarity in aerodynamic design between the two. Not even sure if Mig itself can "copy" an 1.44 into an J20...
Don't like the layout of the air intakes
eurotyphoon was made from these
Flat pack, M.F.I.,.......
Bensons for Fishbeds?
Oak Flanker land?
This thing was basically a russian eurofighter
It looks about as stealthy as a Ford Trimotor.
Why not give the novel a callback and call it the "Foxbat"??
You do know that novel is already named after an aircraft, the "Foxbat"??
@@derrickstorm6976 They mean Firefox.
The F22 would smoke that prototype just judging by its looks.
Aannd coming to a war thunder upgrade soon :-|
The perfect Russian aircraft. The designer can promise the moon, but because it'll never be built, you do not have to actually deliver.
Meh, something about that 1.44's shape just doesn't do it for me. Never been a fan but it's possible a production model would have looked differently in the same way the F-22 looks better IMHO than the YF-22. Nice video!!
Same here. It looks squashed.
F22. Best at shooting baloons. 🤣
It looks like the Jet Core Booster from Mobile Suit Gundam. And I mean that as high praise.
LIKE
What would be low-observable about that design? There are more sharp angles and protrusions than an F-16 or any other American 4th generation fighter.
It is a bit viggen esc.
a russian typhoon.... more things change, the more they stay the same.
comment for the UA-cam Gods.
Chinese spy at the shop.
Hmmm.
MiG 1.44 planform and wingbox, let’s get the ventral fins too.
Next, f35 ray-dome and cockpit. Don’t forget the intakes stealth design!
Lastly, we will design our own shitty solutions to the engines because we need maximum thrust out of our underpowered engines, who needs rear aspect stealth?
Oh before I forget, I had these leftover documents about the yf23 all moving rudders!
I feel we have seen enough Soviet/Russian wonder weapons over the past 100 years to take anything they tell us with a grain of salt. Until it is actually put into production and tested in combat we have no way of knowing if it's actually a world beater or a complete lemon. Considering this aircraft only flew twice I'm inclined to think it was a lemon.
Another problem is that Russia and it's successors keep changing doctrines like gloves. It can't use gear properly. They have amazing stuff and have zero understanding what to do with it and how to make a thriving combined arms connection going from heavy WMD dependant use of total mobilization large force to the smaller brigade sized ones that is mobile and lacks proper infantry support, that BTG "experiment, to a need for massive army once again, as they seemingly have no idea what kind of war they want to wage; mind that when Russian hardware is used by states with competent doctrine (Israel, India examplifying) it behaves amazingly
@@diagatjl6096 Israeli was never big user of Soviet weapon they capture a few , a better example will be Vietnam who used Soviet weapon and show how much it effective again american-chinese,Cambodian.
Jazz comments.
MFI flat pack quality
I'm guessing the Russians got some early intel on the massive US stealth programs and saw how far behind the 1.44 was.
"sounds Swedish"
Wait what? What's the joke/reference about it?
IKEA sells flat-packed furniture and is Swedish.
It doesn't look very stealthy, especially with those air intakes, canards and numerous underwing projections. Radar-absorbing coating can only do so much.