Just built mine XL semi-assembled. It has two heads. I spent 8 hours and 1 hour calibration. It printed ok after tests, and perfect after i adjusted the belts. No issues. I have 1 XL and 7 MK4 right now that I bought in kits and built them. And all of them turned out great. About 30 hours on each printer. Two of them in encloser.
This situation is frustrating, but these things happen unfortunately. I have an XL too, bought a kit with two heads first and upgraded it to 5 heads later on. I had some problems with calibrating one of the heads, but it works without issues now. I have a Bambu P1S too. You cannot compare them, they are different animals. Bambu is more polished, the XL can do prints the Bambu cannot print because of the size difference. Multicolor is much faster on the XL with much less waste. I love them both.
I would love to see Bambu come out with something that can rival the size and multi toolhead. Their printers have been fantastic and I would love to see what they produce.
That’s a bummer my single head XL was having issues after I assembled nothing stuck to the plates every print failed then the USB port died CS sent me new xLCD board then they sent me a new nozzle - I used Chat its best way to go - my XL finally printing - good luck!
Did you get your machine up and running? We have gotten quick responses with chat but after so many failed tests they wanted me to email their higher level support and that route is a lot slower.
@@monkeybraincreations Yes my XL is printing! I just completed a 19h23m print see link- interestingly as soon as the bed cools the print just comes unstuck! ua-cam.com/video/j8iqTB6vk0Q/v-deo.html When I put my $ down on the preorder I could only afford the single head, now I think I'll upgrade from 1 to 5 head well I will in the next month!
Until today, after my MK4 bricked, I’m planning on dismount it and sell the parts, before I throw it in the garbage And for the Bambu Lab P1S I bought after, by irony, is working perfectly
Good luck getting the XL up and running. I’ve been tempted to buy one, but then I hear horror stories like yours and hesitate. My Bambulab X1E’s perform like angels.
@@tombo7719 I paid $2,499 ea for the printers and bought them from 3DChimera in FL. I also bought a service plan and some extra hot ends w/ my purchase. The nice thing about a service plan is the quick response from the 3DChimera tech if you ever have a problem vs waiting for a reply from BL, but of course you pay for that.
@@MOVIEKICKS gotcha! they have a heated chamber correct? And the ability to positively kill the Wifi also? So cool man, doing the P1P to P1S conversion, found the WIFI module, wondering what I could do to make a switch on the leads to cancel the wifi should I want to. thanks for the response!
You are correct about the heated chamber. I’m not sure about the technicalities of the wifi, but I believe you are correct. It also has an improved air filtration system, but I’m not sure how effective it really is in a production environment because I can still smell some of the plastics when printing; although they smell less than without the filter.
@@MOVIEKICKS So I was thinking just yesterday about it all. Really to keep the air temp correct, and the filtration correct, you really need to have the printer in an enclosure, the whole thing. That way the air stays a certain temp, and the filtration will eventually clean the air since it "leaks" but air will eventually clean due to the sealed nature and running it though the filters
Please don't film your long form videos vertically. Vertical videos are for short form content that is 1 minute or less. Anything longer, and it must be horizontal as that is how people watch long form content. ON my TV and phone, this appears as a standing vertical video with giant black boxes on the side. Hardly a great viewing experience so I hope this perspective from a viewer helps.
I bet prusa appreciates the beta testing program that you paid to be a part of. They make money and get free video updates from their beta testers. Its a lose for people who think they are getting a finished product, akin to a bambulab. Its a win for prusa who just keeps raking in the money from people who either haven't tried bambulabs printers yet, or who just run a youtube channel for printing and want to show the audience an epic design fail. I have owned my bambulab printer for 6 months. Outside of some failures from me not keeping the lead screws clean its been flawless. The failure rate on prusa is 10% or more, and on bambu it can be as low as 2% or even 1% in my case, but I OVER maintain my machine. I'd rather spend 10 minutes every day maintaining it, than let hours of time be wasted.
10mins a day * 365 = 3650 mins or ~61 hours a year..... your worried about not spending a couple of hour troubleshooting id rather spend 2 full working days (20 hours) fixing issues a year than waste over 1 week a year doing "Maintenance" on my printers...
I am an unabashed Bambu fanboy - but Prusa in general are much better than this. They rushed out the XL in response to Bambu printers and you can tell. The extra cost (aka Prusa tax) is also typically paying for better/faster support than Bambu (which is in turn better than the rest of 3D Printer manufacturers) but obviously
@@oderbang You need to be maintaining Prusa printers the same amount as a Bambu - so we're not talking replacing 61 hours per year with 20 hours, we're talking about adding 20 hours onto the 61. Where you should make up the time difference is reduced filament waste on multicolor (which can be solved in various ways on Bambu) and in faster support times (which MBC has not experienced).
While it sucks having an expensive printer not working the 5 toolhead setup is really cool and hopefully drives the entire industry in new direction. This design helps cut down on waste and allows for more versatile printing. I hope more companies pick up this style, or find a way to redesign or improve the concept. I love my Bambulabs printer and feel Prusa was caught with its pants down when Bambulabs launched with such a well built product. This type of competition will keep both companies innovation and improving their products. Hopefully Prusa can answer back with some new improvements to help keep improving the industry.
@@monkeybraincreations If you are using this as a business, you need to factor in your lost time/productivity vs a bit of wasted filament that comes in at most times under $20. Like others have said you have been doing the testing for them all the while loosing the most valuable commodity... Time. Once lost it can never be recovered. This should have been handled by Prusa sending you a fully assembled machine and a shipping label to send the broken one back to them, so THEY can do the testing on it. If you fail to send the broken one back then you get a nice 10K credit card charge for both machines. In the time you have lost, you could have had an X1C humming away for a fraction of the cost. Also just so you know, purge waste has gotten better with updates as well as flushing volumes in the slicer.
Just built mine XL semi-assembled. It has two heads. I spent 8 hours and 1 hour calibration. It printed ok after tests, and perfect after i adjusted the belts. No issues.
I have 1 XL and 7 MK4 right now that I bought in kits and built them. And all of them turned out great. About 30 hours on each printer. Two of them in encloser.
This situation is frustrating, but these things happen unfortunately. I have an XL too, bought a kit with two heads first and upgraded it to 5 heads later on. I had some problems with calibrating one of the heads, but it works without issues now. I have a Bambu P1S too. You cannot compare them, they are different animals. Bambu is more polished, the XL can do prints the Bambu cannot print because of the size difference. Multicolor is much faster on the XL with much less waste. I love them both.
I would love to see Bambu come out with something that can rival the size and multi toolhead. Their printers have been fantastic and I would love to see what they produce.
That’s a bummer my single head XL was having issues after I assembled nothing stuck to the plates every print failed then the USB port died CS sent me new xLCD board then they sent me a new nozzle - I used Chat its best way to go - my XL finally printing - good luck!
Did you get your machine up and running? We have gotten quick responses with chat but after so many failed tests they wanted me to email their higher level support and that route is a lot slower.
@@monkeybraincreations Yes my XL is printing! I just completed a 19h23m print see link- interestingly as soon as the bed cools the print just comes unstuck! ua-cam.com/video/j8iqTB6vk0Q/v-deo.html
When I put my $ down on the preorder I could only afford the single head, now I think I'll upgrade from 1 to 5 head well I will in the next month!
Until today, after my MK4 bricked, I’m planning on dismount it and sell the parts, before I throw it in the garbage
And for the Bambu Lab P1S I bought after, by irony, is working perfectly
I don't see Prusa being around in 5yrs.
Good luck getting the XL up and running. I’ve been tempted to buy one, but then I hear horror stories like yours and hesitate. My Bambulab X1E’s perform like angels.
How did you get an X1E, and how much was it if you don't mind?
@@tombo7719 I paid $2,499 ea for the printers and bought them from 3DChimera in FL. I also bought a service plan and some extra hot ends w/ my purchase. The nice thing about a service plan is the quick response from the 3DChimera tech if you ever have a problem vs waiting for a reply from BL, but of course you pay for that.
@@MOVIEKICKS gotcha! they have a heated chamber correct? And the ability to positively kill the Wifi also? So cool man, doing the P1P to P1S conversion, found the WIFI module, wondering what I could do to make a switch on the leads to cancel the wifi should I want to. thanks for the response!
You are correct about the heated chamber. I’m not sure about the technicalities of the wifi, but I believe you are correct. It also has an improved air filtration system, but I’m not sure how effective it really is in a production environment because I can still smell some of the plastics when printing; although they smell less than without the filter.
@@MOVIEKICKS So I was thinking just yesterday about it all. Really to keep the air temp correct, and the filtration correct, you really need to have the printer in an enclosure, the whole thing. That way the air stays a certain temp, and the filtration will eventually clean the air since it "leaks" but air will eventually clean due to the sealed nature and running it though the filters
Do they not assemble and test prior to send? They charge enough they need to do more on their end before sending out. What a nightmare.
They offer 3 types. Kit, Semi Assembled, Fully Assembled. I bought the kit to save on price with the first printer and semi assembled on the second.
Please don't film your long form videos vertically. Vertical videos are for short form content that is 1 minute or less. Anything longer, and it must be horizontal as that is how people watch long form content. ON my TV and phone, this appears as a standing vertical video with giant black boxes on the side. Hardly a great viewing experience so I hope this perspective from a viewer helps.
Thanks for the feedback. I will make sure we film horizontally next time.
i think the build plate needs to be on for the heat bed test.. good luck
What did you need 5 extruders for?
Multimaterial/multicolor printing is fantastic and allows for some impressive results
The biggest draw for us is the multicolor printing with limited waste. The multi material also has some amazing potential.
I bet prusa appreciates the beta testing program that you paid to be a part of. They make money and get free video updates from their beta testers. Its a lose for people who think they are getting a finished product, akin to a bambulab. Its a win for prusa who just keeps raking in the money from people who either haven't tried bambulabs printers yet, or who just run a youtube channel for printing and want to show the audience an epic design fail. I have owned my bambulab printer for 6 months. Outside of some failures from me not keeping the lead screws clean its been flawless. The failure rate on prusa is 10% or more, and on bambu it can be as low as 2% or even 1% in my case, but I OVER maintain my machine. I'd rather spend 10 minutes every day maintaining it, than let hours of time be wasted.
10mins a day * 365 = 3650 mins or ~61 hours a year..... your worried about not spending a couple of hour troubleshooting id rather spend 2 full working days (20 hours) fixing issues a year than waste over 1 week a year doing "Maintenance" on my printers...
I am an unabashed Bambu fanboy - but Prusa in general are much better than this. They rushed out the XL in response to Bambu printers and you can tell. The extra cost (aka Prusa tax) is also typically paying for better/faster support than Bambu (which is in turn better than the rest of 3D Printer manufacturers) but obviously
@@oderbang You need to be maintaining Prusa printers the same amount as a Bambu - so we're not talking replacing 61 hours per year with 20 hours, we're talking about adding 20 hours onto the 61.
Where you should make up the time difference is reduced filament waste on multicolor (which can be solved in various ways on Bambu) and in faster support times (which MBC has not experienced).
While it sucks having an expensive printer not working the 5 toolhead setup is really cool and hopefully drives the entire industry in new direction. This design helps cut down on waste and allows for more versatile printing. I hope more companies pick up this style, or find a way to redesign or improve the concept.
I love my Bambulabs printer and feel Prusa was caught with its pants down when Bambulabs launched with such a well built product. This type of competition will keep both companies innovation and improving their products. Hopefully Prusa can answer back with some new improvements to help keep improving the industry.
@@monkeybraincreations If you are using this as a business, you need to factor in your lost time/productivity vs a bit of wasted filament that comes in at most times under $20. Like others have said you have been doing the testing for them all the while loosing the most valuable commodity... Time. Once lost it can never be recovered.
This should have been handled by Prusa sending you a fully assembled machine and a shipping label to send the broken one back to them, so THEY can do the testing on it. If you fail to send the broken one back then you get a nice 10K credit card charge for both machines. In the time you have lost, you could have had an X1C humming away for a fraction of the cost. Also just so you know, purge waste has gotten better with updates as well as flushing volumes in the slicer.
So, for who is trying to buy a Prusa, just don’t…
Bet you wish you got an x1c by now
We are thinking of going that route for our next printer.
Bambu labs has far worse QC than prusa. Just look at their trustpilot reviews.