This isnt a hardware issue with mini PC's, or any laptop/desktop style computer running windows, linux or macos. This is an issue with the streaming services themselves not allowing higher than 1080p playback on those operating systems.The title of this video is extremely misleading, makes it seem like the miniPC's themselves are the issue. If I watch netflix on Windows with an RTX 3080, I still have the same issue you are stating here. It isn't even a HDCP issue, it's just the streaming services themselves. Even UA-cam lock down video resolution to 1080P (and sometimes 720p) when watching content you have purchased from them, such as movies and TVshows on windows, linux and macos. Almost all video streaming services only allow higher than 1080p resolutions to be used on Android, ios, or other highly locked down systems.
I agree. This is a problem with streaming services and as a manufacturer if you have the ability to make HDCP compliance available please do so or be transparent about having or not. I have no problem with HDCP compliance with any PC I've build myself. Even with older hardware. The problem with these mini PCs is that if streaming services decide to open up 4k HDR streaming you will not have the option. Just be upfront about it.
That is one of my.... minor frustrations with HTPCs is the fact that major streaming companies won't play nice with them, because they don't want site ripping to occur, people can do that on other devices.... using screen capture tools, but they don't shoot them in the foot. So someone paying for their 4k service can't use them on the best device for the job... so then what happens? People go find the 4k files other ways on PC. It's the Streisand effect of streaming lol.
Don't be blaming the hardware, you should be blaming the content provider. Netflix, to use your example, will not allow anything but a Netflix approved (telemetry transmitted and locked down) device to access its 4K streams. The Netflix servers are what is downgrading the stream not the hardware you are trying to use to view the stream. This in itself IMO gives justification to piracy. If you pay for 4K premium playback you should be allowed to receive said playback regardless of device providing it is compatible to display the premium stream. It is not that the device lacks HDCP compliance, it is the company, Netflix in this example that is only allowing the user to receive a maximum 1080 stream.
Pay your subscription, and use the product: get inferior services and inadequate product. Your service provider reserves the right to alter the deal and revoke what they suffered to give you at any time. Pirate the content: get a superior product, and a superior experience. what lesson am I to learn from this unfortunate reality?
I don't want to pay extra for HDCP. If the product didn't advertise supporting HDCP, then it's not a hardware problem. You have DRM problem because you didn't pirate, blame your streaming service.
4k is overrated, 1080P is often super-up-sampled to 4k and in very rare times will I even know the differences. The upside is less lag, no buffering and my internet is free to do downloads in the background. Toss in screen sizes, 1080P is good to 75" but at
Oh wow, HDCP, I haven't heard that acronym in ages. Was my must feature when I was picking my new monitor back in the 2009 because I was sure I would buy a bluray for my new PC sometime in the future and wanted to be future proof. Picked Samsung 2333sw.
@@galaxya40s95 well I was talking strictly about the 4k-enabling hardware. If to expand the issue as you did, then there are USB-C to HDMI adapters that allow sending the image to the TV provided it supports 4k
@@UrgentSnooker Ok, that might be a use case. I don't know the current situation (will look into it), but the last time I checked, only higher end devices like Samsung S models supported HDMI/DP wired cast over USB-C. After short search it seems Pixels (the only expensive phone I'm considering) do not support it either, or at least didn't couple years back.
Please rename the title of this video. This is not fair to the Mini PC vendors and you might affect consumer choice. The issue is a content provider feature limitation. I will watch to see if you are more concerned with clicks or well-balanced content. As a suggestion, redo the video to show how the content providers limit consumer choice on non locked-down systems. Promote change, not misinformation.
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This isnt a hardware issue with mini PC's, or any laptop/desktop style computer running windows, linux or macos. This is an issue with the streaming services themselves not allowing higher than 1080p playback on those operating systems.The title of this video is extremely misleading, makes it seem like the miniPC's themselves are the issue.
If I watch netflix on Windows with an RTX 3080, I still have the same issue you are stating here. It isn't even a HDCP issue, it's just the streaming services themselves. Even UA-cam lock down video resolution to 1080P (and sometimes 720p) when watching content you have purchased from them, such as movies and TVshows on windows, linux and macos.
Almost all video streaming services only allow higher than 1080p resolutions to be used on Android, ios, or other highly locked down systems.
I agree. This is a problem with streaming services and as a manufacturer if you have the ability to make HDCP compliance available please do so or be transparent about having or not. I have no problem with HDCP compliance with any PC I've build myself. Even with older hardware. The problem with these mini PCs is that if streaming services decide to open up 4k HDR streaming you will not have the option. Just be upfront about it.
That is one of my.... minor frustrations with HTPCs is the fact that major streaming companies won't play nice with them, because they don't want site ripping to occur, people can do that on other devices.... using screen capture tools, but they don't shoot them in the foot. So someone paying for their 4k service can't use them on the best device for the job... so then what happens? People go find the 4k files other ways on PC. It's the Streisand effect of streaming lol.
Don't be blaming the hardware, you should be blaming the content provider.
Netflix, to use your example, will not allow anything but a Netflix approved (telemetry transmitted and locked down) device to access its 4K streams. The Netflix servers are what is downgrading the stream not the hardware you are trying to use to view the stream.
This in itself IMO gives justification to piracy.
If you pay for 4K premium playback you should be allowed to receive said playback regardless of device providing it is compatible to display the premium stream. It is not that the device lacks HDCP compliance, it is the company, Netflix in this example that is only allowing the user to receive a maximum 1080 stream.
Thanks for the info. I've been considering a mini-PC for media.
Pay your subscription, and use the product: get inferior services and inadequate product. Your service provider reserves the right to alter the deal and revoke what they suffered to give you at any time.
Pirate the content: get a superior product, and a superior experience.
what lesson am I to learn from this unfortunate reality?
So true
I don't want to pay extra for HDCP. If the product didn't advertise supporting HDCP, then it's not a hardware problem. You have DRM problem because you didn't pirate, blame your streaming service.
Time to bring my tricorn hat out of retirement.
Lol
Thank u for discussing this, its been months im encountering this issue even with apple devices.
I asked msi, they said that their mini pc supports hdcp. My thought here is that, go with well known brands if hdcp concerns you 😢
Thanks for looking into this! This might explain why their prices are a bit higher.
There are a few mini PC's that have separate Nvidia graphics hardware. Perhaps, those might be more likely to be compliant. Don't know.
If you don't know why are you spewing shit?
I have to look into this. Thanks for the info.
4k is overrated, 1080P is often super-up-sampled to 4k and in very rare times will I even know the differences. The upside is less lag, no buffering and my internet is free to do downloads in the background. Toss in screen sizes, 1080P is good to 75" but at
Yeah... No
For many people, glasses/contact lenses would be a better upgrade than 4K
Haven't confirmed it myself, but when I was looking at GMKtec miniPCs with N100 or N150 CPUs, I found reddit comments claiming that they support HDCP
I have to look into this. Thanks for the info!
Did you check the bios if there is an hdcp enable option? I know beelink do not support hdcp when i asked in their shop.
Oh wow, HDCP, I haven't heard that acronym in ages. Was my must feature when I was picking my new monitor back in the 2009 because I was sure I would buy a bluray for my new PC sometime in the future and wanted to be future proof. Picked Samsung 2333sw.
sooo wheres the mac mini m4
Using it is a media center is like using a helicopter for grocery shopping
I know at least for Android tablets if i don’t see widevine L1 support i know its going to have issues streaming hi res paid content.
4K????? I'm not even going to have 4K-capable hardware for another 5-10 years. Maybe my TV can do 1080P, that's about it.
Can't your phone run 4k already? If not, the next one probably will
1080p is good enough. I upgrade my TV only if it breaks.
4k on a phone? What is the point with such a tiny display?
Unless maybe for VR?
@@galaxya40s95 well I was talking strictly about the 4k-enabling hardware. If to expand the issue as you did, then there are USB-C to HDMI adapters that allow sending the image to the TV provided it supports 4k
@@UrgentSnooker Ok, that might be a use case.
I don't know the current situation (will look into it), but the last time I checked, only higher end devices like Samsung S models supported HDMI/DP wired cast over USB-C.
After short search it seems Pixels (the only expensive phone I'm considering) do not support it either, or at least didn't couple years back.
Please rename the title of this video. This is not fair to the Mini PC vendors and you might affect consumer choice. The issue is a content provider feature limitation. I will watch to see if you are more concerned with clicks or well-balanced content. As a suggestion, redo the video to show how the content providers limit consumer choice on non locked-down systems. Promote change, not misinformation.
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