Irl one has a steering rack that amplifies your inputs maaasively. Thars why nowadays a race car doesn't have 900° Steering, and you can do it with just light grip. If you need to race and win against others, you need every advantage and comfort for 2 hours, or 7 or 24hr racing is about long term endurance not.. Tiring yourself out so your opponent with lighter steering wins.
you do realise power steering is only needed when ur standing still, most old race cars without power steering wheel feel much better and wheel is much lighter than a one with powersteering
@@kill4fl00d8 definitely, but cars without power steering have steering inputs magnified is my point, so you don't need to be strong to steer. A good example of lack of the gearing is a non power steering with the engine off and try turning the wheel, like if a car is getting towed. It's like the body builder stuff, not fun!
While a real F1 car does have power steering, or actually power assisted steering because full power steering would take too much power from the engine, a real f1 driver is subjected to much harder conditions than this. Constantly exposed to 5G-6G while braking and turning, car bumping up and down constantly as the suspension is so hard that you can almost feel grains of sand on the track, you sit in a cramped space subjected to 45c-50c (110f-120f) constantly, and do it for almost 2 hours straight. A fair comparison to the conditions a real F1 driver experiences is the 100% force feedback setting... for 2 hours in row. Remember, F1 driver are super-trimmed athletes but they still typicallyl lose 3kg-4kg (6-9 lbs) during a 2 hour race.
@@SaturnusDK they feel huge driving force,but I question that an engineer is going to make it so that the steering is so heavy that they are fatigued by steering ,instead of the driving Gs. It seems like last work to force an impairment on your driver ,because "good enough". Wins are important,at all costs no? I could argue against this too, however.
Funny thing. Notice how one particular person is struggling even on 50%, yet has the biggest muscles. Yep, all natural muscles, no steroids or anything.
i used my racing wheel to improve my upper body strength in hopes that I wasn't in the sort of pain that requires risky surgery that could leave me paralyzed or dead. it really does work! i put 500 hours into it in one month and i absolutely could feel the difference. let's hope I'll still be able to race after the surgery.
For people that are wondering what the wheel base is... did some internet sleuthing, the rig is a Motion Simulation LC Series, which is advertised to be compatible with the Simucube 2. Assuming they bought the package that includes everything instead of buying the parts separately themselves, then you are looking at a Simucube 2 Pro, which is a 25 NM wheel base.
25 NM with 12in(30cm) rim is only 15lb (8kg) of peak tangent force per arm. You get forces like this while taking a corner on a go-kart. So let's put it that way: if you don't get white knuckles just from gripping the wheel, the feedback isn't very strong.
@@michaelbuckers if you haven't tried a DD wheel that's 10+ NM, you definitely should. It's surprising how strong it is the first few times driving with it, and my wheel bases have capped at 12 NM, not 25 like this one. Most of these people also were stuck in terrible seating positions, making it way harder than it should have been for them
@@brianstradona1732 Notice I compare it to real cars, not other wheel bases. The same way as my IRL daily driver is described as "very heavy steering" but it's actually a little lighter than my 6 NM PC wheel.
@@michaelbuckersMy wheelbase is the same power as this. I’ve driven go karts and have a track car with no power steering and 275 tires up front. I can confirm neither a go kart or my track car get anywhere near my DD wheelbase for power.
@@michaelbuckers It may only translate to around 15lbs per hand but it’s like having that weight repeatedly dropped into your hand at arms length 10 times a second. The sustained force is one thing but it’s the constant spikes that murders your muscles. It does a great job of making you feel like your really getting beaten up in a real race car though 😅
My friend has a wheel that can do 150% ff also, and I can say its really not that hard to "handle", these guys just makes it seem hard cause they never brake on the corners
would have loved to see a mention on what wheel base is used in this video, since the % of the FFB doesn't mean much and it's so different from wheel base to wheel base.
I asked myself the same question :( It's definitely a Simucube base judging by the SC QR and the wireless button box, but even Simucube can range from 18 to 32Nm... And is the "150% FFB" referring to the ingame setting? I'm certain you can't go past 100% of the wheel base's max torque
I love sim racing and never thought I’d watch such video. It had me laughing all the way. They really impressed me with strength. Especially the 2 big white guys and the smaller lady. Surprised to see that the really big black guy seemed to struggle a little. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not mocking him, he’s clearly a huge strong guy, I just thought it would be easier for him. Then again, he may not have been trying as hard as the others. I know for sure that I couldn’t do this and if I tried, there’s no way I could do it while laughing. Both arms, wrists and hands would be completely ripped from my body, let alone “Broken” 😁 I’m so glad I found this video. I will watch it daily for the foreseeable future and possibly the rest of my life . 👍
The wheelbase is a Simucube 2 Pro (25Nm) or Ultimate (32Nm), hard to tell since they don't hold the steering wheel correctly which makes it much harder to control and it will slip much more easily, but most likely the Ultimate
They're holding it so it doesn't break their thumbs, which in fact is the correct way to hold a wheel while racing. And also I've seen people online cause serious injury because they were holding it wrong.
What about a new sport, have the ffb at a set insane high number, then have races. This will test strength, race craft and everything else at the same time but now more strength will be tested and see how that will affect the drivers' abilities
I get a full body workout on the wheel my legs push the pedal , my chair moves about so i use my core to hold it in place , while i use my abs to help push on the brake , and my arms and chest are used to turn such
Hi @veloce nice video. Just as an advice for following videos, you must configure the amount of degrees of the steering wheel as f1 cars only have 360° and on this video I can notice that the degrees are configured to 900°, that increased the amount of streng in the forcefeedback
@@linussjodahl3477 Rosberg said recently: when Hamilton got positive I wanted to call Toto but I said to myself, I haven't trained myself for 4 years, after 2 laps my arms would've gone rock solid and wouldn't be able to keep the hands on the steering for that long
@@daviderustico494 yeah of course you have to be somewhat trained but it's not nearly as bad as for the neck, indycar is much tougher with the steering
100% Force feedback (150% in F1 games for some reason) is 100% of the available force of the motor driving the steering wheel rather than an accurate representation of how hard a steering wheel is to turn in a real race car. F1 cars have power steering so the load isn't much (F1 drivers are in excellent shape but typically small and skinny), I imagine getting those huge, sticky front tyres to full lock at a standstill would take a huge amount of strength if the power steering failed though.
no its not at all, the steering on the f1 car is probably around 50-75% and even then why would they make it hard for the driver, they have all the tech in the world to make it a super comfortable ride
F1 Cars have powerstearing to make it easier for the drivers the 150% is only in the game. Its hard to estamate what it would be compared to this. I would guess 50%-100% in there. And imagine now the drivers from the 50s-90s without Powerstearing. In the 80s 1400hp in qualyfing trim ore in the stiff groundeffect cars from the late 70s early 80s.
No, that utilises the maximum amount of torque that the sim wheel can generate which in some models can be upwards of 30Nm, enough to seriously injure you if there's a sudden snap, and practically nothing like any real life car.
Now the real interesting bit would be how much torque that steering wheel can produce. Because without that torque number the percentages don't really mean anything
@@commandergeokam2868 It's in the name, direct drive means the rating for the motor is the rating for the wheel since there's no reduction via pulleys or gears.
So how much Torque is the base rated as? Cause 25% of what? I got a fanatec csl DD, i'm playing at 75%. Geussing from the fact they struggle, i'm assuming it's a higher end model but they range from 20 to 35.
I prefer to call it a sim rather than a game, the only thing you can compare it to is driving IRL. Good to see bodybuilders on a sim as most non gamers don't understand the forces involved, that wheel had some real punishment and took it like a champ.
@@semiedgv not as advanced equipment as today, they had to prioritize their core muscles and mental strength, and bodybuilding was just not their priority
Drivers back then were not fit, some of them were heavy smokers. Cars were slower, which made G forces lower, too. And in the 70s the cars already had wide radial slicks.
My first endurance race i borrowed a 25Nm Podium DD2 wheel from my friend and went on a 6-hour race at Spa. Yeah.. .not the brightest decision ever. By hour 4 already had blisters on my hands, because i didn't have racing gloves. You simply don't need them on a G29. By the time i finished the race it was one of the hardest, most challenging and demanding things i've ever done. And i've worked in construction and took part in triathlon runs... nothing comes even close. If you wanna really REALLY challenge (and possibly destroy) you body AND mind, try it out. 6 hours, non-stop with the only rest being the refueling pit-stops.
I'd love to do this challenge myself! This video really confused me though, because I don't know how much torque the wheel in this video was generating. It's hard to compare these people's experiences to my own. For context, I use a DD2 and turned it up to 100% (25nm peak) with the torque key on day one. After the first couple of days I had absolutely no problems and I never turned it down after that. I can drive for at least a couple of hours before I get tired, but I don't train at the gym religiously.
I think at 150% you just gut more torque but also the risk of clipping rises. I think if the wheel would put out 20nm on average no human would last long except they actually drive high downforce cars without power steering.
driving game: gets more and more realistic & is literally just about driving like in the real world. women: "i dont play videogames" "gaming skills would help here now"
I think I would find this physically easier because of driving skill. When you're driving well on the limit, and you're a proficient driver, the FFB is quite often moving your hands, and you're just guiding it. Wheras they'te fighting the FFB by chucking on a load of steering angle through the understeer.
i think thats what i felt like driving an F1 car back in the day when they had no power steering and they had to fight monstrous cars with god knows how much torque is being put out to the wheels
Even tho they have power steering.. F1 drivers have to train their arms to cope with the torque of the steering wheel to counteract the g-forces during cornering.
F1 is rear wheel drive. Except from driving over the humps you never get Forcefeedback as strong as these guys had in the video. About 20% strength is realistic. Group B rally is a bit harder, but no where as strong as what you can set in games.
I'm really not trying to say this is easy, CAUSE ITS NOT, but a good part of what they're doing would be fixed if they hit the brakes more, still insane tho
It would have to be measured in Newtonmeter rather than the xx % they do in the video. There are wheels that have around 2-3 nm and some that have 30+ A Dodge Viper has around 10nm - which is relatively high. Formula 1 cars do have power steering, though. So I am sure it will not go above 15, but I dont know any exact numbers.
Curious unknown fact: Simplicity is beta testing a (seriously) 65nm of peak torque direct drive steering wheel. Edit: Simplicity, the name was simplicity
@@Sithhy My DD1 can use up to 750 watts I believe. It's getting ridiculous. That said mine is definitely configured in ' old man setting ' so I can just cruise around.
What wheel are they using? I've ran SC Pro at max feedback and the only problem if when you let go. Holding on its "easy*" to control. * You're tense, but no exaggerated movements like in the video.
they also have to put all the braking power on their own. In street cars you have a braking force amplifier. they dont have that in f1 cars. they need to apply around 150kg of force to the brakes in heavy braking zomes like the end of long straights. this is very difficult in their sitting position, they need to use the g forces and the weight of their body to apply enogh force. must be also very exhausting!
The first time I raced and get on a real race car I was like "WOW WHAT MY ARMS GONNA EXPLODE AFTER THIS". Now, after 6 yrs, I use a 50-70% FF bc I feel like it's realistic when I play at simracing.
Now you go! This was fun but I’d love a comparison with a less endowed person. I’m guessing this wheel has a modified power supply? It must be very well built.
On this video the power it's probably less than 32/35 nm. In real life in a proper corner where you achieve something like 2.5 G, and around 12,000 rpm, an f1 car deliver forces of more than 140 + nm. It's just that f1 drivers training in a way the use theirs neck muscles with the shoulders muscles to deal with the absurd power and resistance from the steering wheel and the car. I would pay to see them dealing with this kind lf power. Its just on another level.
what Sim wheel setup is this? I have a Fanatec and dont think it would ever get this strong even with the 9nm upgrade. How much NM is this setup at 150%?!?!
pro tip for the bodybuilders: when the wheel does that shake thing grab the steering wheel by the top, the amount of times i’ve cut my finger open on the paddle shifters is crazy
I'm more impressed that the steering wheel didn't break
It’s a great ad for Fanatec or whatever wheel that is
its a direct drive wheel, the amount of power they have is fucking insane
True
More likely that a wrist breaks before the wheel breaks
In about 7 different places.
Most of the times they missed a corner it was not because of the force feedback but because they were simply too fast.
so worried about turning, they forget they have a brake lol
true, this is what i thought the whole time i mean ofcourse its gonna be harder when your going that fast
Yes lmao
Yeah that's what I saw to just a lot of under steer
And if I was trolling these people trackion control off lol
Would love to see an F1 driver compared to them and their reactions to this video
Irl one has a steering rack that amplifies your inputs maaasively.
Thars why nowadays a race car doesn't have 900° Steering, and you can do it with just light grip.
If you need to race and win against others, you need every advantage and comfort for 2 hours, or 7 or 24hr racing is about long term endurance not.. Tiring yourself out so your opponent with lighter steering wins.
you do realise power steering is only needed when ur standing still, most old race cars without power steering wheel feel much better and wheel is much lighter than a one with powersteering
@@kill4fl00d8 definitely, but cars without power steering have steering inputs magnified is my point, so you don't need to be strong to steer.
A good example of lack of the gearing is a non power steering with the engine off and try turning the wheel, like if a car is getting towed. It's like the body builder stuff, not fun!
While a real F1 car does have power steering, or actually power assisted steering because full power steering would take too much power from the engine, a real f1 driver is subjected to much harder conditions than this. Constantly exposed to 5G-6G while braking and turning, car bumping up and down constantly as the suspension is so hard that you can almost feel grains of sand on the track, you sit in a cramped space subjected to 45c-50c (110f-120f) constantly, and do it for almost 2 hours straight.
A fair comparison to the conditions a real F1 driver experiences is the 100% force feedback setting... for 2 hours in row. Remember, F1 driver are super-trimmed athletes but they still typicallyl lose 3kg-4kg (6-9 lbs) during a 2 hour race.
@@SaturnusDK they feel huge driving force,but I question that an engineer is going to make it so that the steering is so heavy that they are fatigued by steering ,instead of the driving Gs. It seems like last work to force an impairment on your driver ,because "good enough". Wins are important,at all costs no?
I could argue against this too, however.
3:14 that snap is terrifying even below 50%.
And the paddle on most wheels is straight carbon or metal so that spinning is like a wheel with two knifes on the back
@@thatonenigeriansformula its part of why I wear gloves. I dont want to get cut
@@captainminor246 and Stupid people are the one that will make fun of you. These people also don't know much about Motorsport.
@@captainminor246 finally someone says that
They have go had turned down certain forces, such as wall impacts.
My guy looks like a buff Nicholas Latifi
ikr😂😂
I even thought that was Latifi for a moment lol
Between Latifi and gasly
😂😂... Even I thought that.
Nicholas Labeefy
Wouldn’t be so bad if they knew how to use the brakes 😂
Note for self : don't go to the gym , just pump the FF to 100% and then play with that for 30 minutes
Yeah and pedal resistance to 500%
@@jeebus5063 never skip leg day
Funny thing. Notice how one particular person is struggling even on 50%, yet has the biggest muscles. Yep, all natural muscles, no steroids or anything.
@@jeebus5063 Load Cells on my Fanatec rig, putting 80lbs of force on the brake pedal for an hour of intense racing will have your legs shaking
i used my racing wheel to improve my upper body strength in hopes that I wasn't in the sort of pain that requires risky surgery that could leave me paralyzed or dead. it really does work! i put 500 hours into it in one month and i absolutely could feel the difference.
let's hope I'll still be able to race after the surgery.
For people that are wondering what the wheel base is... did some internet sleuthing, the rig is a Motion Simulation LC Series, which is advertised to be compatible with the Simucube 2. Assuming they bought the package that includes everything instead of buying the parts separately themselves, then you are looking at a Simucube 2 Pro, which is a 25 NM wheel base.
25 NM with 12in(30cm) rim is only 15lb (8kg) of peak tangent force per arm. You get forces like this while taking a corner on a go-kart.
So let's put it that way: if you don't get white knuckles just from gripping the wheel, the feedback isn't very strong.
@@michaelbuckers if you haven't tried a DD wheel that's 10+ NM, you definitely should. It's surprising how strong it is the first few times driving with it, and my wheel bases have capped at 12 NM, not 25 like this one. Most of these people also were stuck in terrible seating positions, making it way harder than it should have been for them
@@brianstradona1732 Notice I compare it to real cars, not other wheel bases. The same way as my IRL daily driver is described as "very heavy steering" but it's actually a little lighter than my 6 NM PC wheel.
@@michaelbuckersMy wheelbase is the same power as this. I’ve driven go karts and have a track car with no power steering and 275 tires up front. I can confirm neither a go kart or my track car get anywhere near my DD wheelbase for power.
@@michaelbuckers It may only translate to around 15lbs per hand but it’s like having that weight repeatedly dropped into your hand at arms length 10 times a second. The sustained force is one thing but it’s the constant spikes that murders your muscles. It does a great job of making you feel like your really getting beaten up in a real race car though 😅
This is a great format, can’t wait to see the channel grow!
can we see jarno doing this with one with like 4x the power
he will fly
Yeah how does jarno control his wheel? He looks like he isn’t too strong but he can control his simucube ultimate just fine
He actually did a Force feedback challenge but hurt himself doing it
They are using a simucube 2, you can tell by the QR. Don't know what version tho, I have a Pro and it's basically like that
He tried it already 🤣
my question is why do they even make force feedback this strong
They made it for people who like pain
@@lukaluka4868 like spongebob
They made it to simulate old race car without power steering
@@therealf.b.i9468 not at all
@@salinasdavid2000 I'm talking about why they make the torque so high not the purpose of the wheel
Where's Haydon Grandé Guns Gullis?
You're 3 days late tommo
You guys should've had one of you normal weaklings do 150% too so we could see a comparison. Fun vid
They would 100% get hurt
I wouldn't even be able to keep it under control at 100% haha
That would be way too dangerous
My friend has a wheel that can do 150% ff also, and I can say its really not that hard to "handle", these guys just makes it seem hard cause they never brake on the corners
@@Jallu555 eh well it depends on the NM rating of the wheel, logitech racing wheels are like 1.8nm i believe and fanatec wheels can go up to 30nm
6:19 Poor Tobin 😂
Veloce be answering the real questions here
Can't wait to see this contest at strongman this year.
would have loved to see a mention on what wheel base is used in this video, since the % of the FFB doesn't mean much and it's so different from wheel base to wheel base.
looks like a fanatec podium dd2 if it has that much force
@@weiwu1442 its not a podium dd
@@weiwu1442 Doesn't look like a podium at all lol, that's rectangular.
I asked myself the same question :(
It's definitely a Simucube base judging by the SC QR and the wireless button box, but even Simucube can range from 18 to 32Nm...
And is the "150% FFB" referring to the ingame setting? I'm certain you can't go past 100% of the wheel base's max torque
@@Zitr000ne Its called use a different power supply and blow up your wheel base
I love sim racing and never thought I’d watch such video. It had me laughing all the way. They really impressed me with strength. Especially the 2 big white guys and the smaller lady. Surprised to see that the really big black guy seemed to struggle a little. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not mocking him, he’s clearly a huge strong guy, I just thought it would be easier for him. Then again, he may not have been trying as hard as the others. I know for sure that I couldn’t do this and if I tried, there’s no way I could do it while laughing. Both arms, wrists and hands would be completely ripped from my body, let alone “Broken” 😁
I’m so glad I found this video. I will watch it daily for the foreseeable future and possibly the rest of my life . 👍
The wheelbase is a Simucube 2 Pro (25Nm) or Ultimate (32Nm), hard to tell since they don't hold the steering wheel correctly which makes it much harder to control and it will slip much more easily, but most likely the Ultimate
Thanks! Finally...
Why couldn't it be a Sport?
Yeah. I wanted to know how much force they were fighting against
They're holding it so it doesn't break their thumbs, which in fact is the correct way to hold a wheel while racing. And also I've seen people online cause serious injury because they were holding it wrong.
I clearly don't need 25-30 nm. Good to know.
That is some high quality equipment you've got my guy.
What about a new sport, have the ffb at a set insane high number, then have races. This will test strength, race craft and everything else at the same time but now more strength will be tested and see how that will affect the drivers' abilities
This is just what real single seater racing is
so all the racing series below F1, as well as all the racing series in the Road to Indy including Indycar?
@@pietrom2642 well no , a real car has a lot of asists
@@Thunderkorps F1 NOT
Jarno Opmeer did it with ez
@Kimi Timoskainen LMAO you think jarno opmeer is stronger than actual bodybuilders hahahahahab
I’m in the army, and I love playing F1. Think I found my new phys workout
I get a full body workout on the wheel my legs push the pedal , my chair moves about so i use my core to hold it in place , while i use my abs to help push on the brake , and my arms and chest are used to turn such
@@thatonenigeriansformula LMAO yeah okay.
@@Algernon7 i mean you see the bodybuilders sweating
@@Algernon7 nono he's right
@@Algernon7 people literally get toned from these setups
Hi @veloce nice video. Just as an advice for following videos, you must configure the amount of degrees of the steering wheel as f1 cars only have 360° and on this video I can notice that the degrees are configured to 900°, that increased the amount of streng in the forcefeedback
Nice.
I'm picturing a row of F1 simulators at the local gym. Ten laps of Bathurst at 50% to get the blood pumping.
I'd love to see an eSports F1 drivers vs Bodybuilders video at somepoint
at 32nm of torque, if your hands are 15cm from the centre of the wheel, it's 213.3 N of force, that's about 21kg to rotate the wheel
White guy with black t-shirt look like Latifi
I thought the same
for real bro if he was a little bit strong
Good old Nicholas has a new preseason workout. It seems pretty efective
He gives me more Gasly vibes
after the life threats he started body building lol
And I imagine they were using assists so it could’ve been worse
Imagine if they used beamng instead of f1
Hahhahaha poor Tobin in the end 😆😆😆
“fOrMuLA 1 dRiVeRs ArEnT rEaL aThLeTeS….”
F1 cars have power steering though so there's not a lot of resistance, most of the physical demand is in the acceleration and braking
@@linussjodahl3477 It's more in the neck than anything yeah
@@linussjodahl3477 Rosberg said recently: when Hamilton got positive I wanted to call Toto but I said to myself, I haven't trained myself for 4 years, after 2 laps my arms would've gone rock solid and wouldn't be able to keep the hands on the steering for that long
Their steering isnt as tough as this
@@daviderustico494 yeah of course you have to be somewhat trained but it's not nearly as bad as for the neck, indycar is much tougher with the steering
Do F1 drivers have it on 150% force feedback? if so that’s bonkers.
100% Force feedback (150% in F1 games for some reason) is 100% of the available force of the motor driving the steering wheel rather than an accurate representation of how hard a steering wheel is to turn in a real race car. F1 cars have power steering so the load isn't much (F1 drivers are in excellent shape but typically small and skinny), I imagine getting those huge, sticky front tyres to full lock at a standstill would take a huge amount of strength if the power steering failed though.
no its not at all, the steering on the f1 car is probably around 50-75% and even then why would they make it hard for the driver, they have all the tech in the world to make it a super comfortable ride
F1 Cars have powerstearing to make it easier for the drivers the 150% is only in the game. Its hard to estamate what it would be compared to this. I would guess 50%-100% in there. And imagine now the drivers from the 50s-90s without Powerstearing. In the 80s 1400hp in qualyfing trim ore in the stiff groundeffect cars from the late 70s early 80s.
@@DjDolHaus86 Indy cars don't have power steering
No, that utilises the maximum amount of torque that the sim wheel can generate which in some models can be upwards of 30Nm, enough to seriously injure you if there's a sudden snap, and practically nothing like any real life car.
Now the real interesting bit would be how much torque that steering wheel can produce. Because without that torque number the percentages don't really mean anything
Probably around 20 nm at 100 percent
it's literally written on the specs of whatever model yoh use
@@abeidiot we dont have the specs of this motor tho so....
@@commandergeokam2868 It's in the name, direct drive means the rating for the motor is the rating for the wheel since there's no reduction via pulleys or gears.
@@FeintMotion Direct Drives dont all have the same torque power.
It’s so funny watching them mess up corners and start to feel the force feedback especially silverstone because of the first and last sectors
What's jacked Pierre Gasly doing in a Veloce video?!?!
Should've put em on the Nords and see if they could beat Jimmer.
That steering wheel is a trooper
Awesome bunch of guys to have in the studio!
So how much Torque is the base rated as? Cause 25% of what? I got a fanatec csl DD, i'm playing at 75%. Geussing from the fact they struggle, i'm assuming it's a higher end model but they range from 20 to 35.
When I saw that right pic of the thumbnail, I thought to myself:
"Wow, I never thought Latifi was that beefy."
100% force feedback actually makes the games easier, since you can actually feel where you should not oversteer.
maybe 100% ina logitech g29, try doing 100% in a 21nm+ wheel base. Spoiler alert, torque is crazy strong.
interesting that none of them were able to grab the wheel correctly
0:15 I thought for a second that Aarava got swole for this video.
I’m no bodybuilder nor do I lift heavy but I have some experience with racing on the F1 games. I would so like to try this.
gotta use the brake too
Man I'm glad you told them how to properly grip the wheel as ffb went up, I was worried watching their hands at low settings
I prefer to call it a sim rather than a game, the only thing you can compare it to is driving IRL. Good to see bodybuilders on a sim as most non gamers don't understand the forces involved, that wheel had some real punishment and took it like a champ.
I love how 150% makes them look like they are doing a hard G turn! lmao
Now I expect a lot of new F1 sim yt channels coming from bodybuilder gang.
150% reminds me of the video of Checo doing the test that F1 drivers do at the beginning of the season lmao
The type of fun video i like to watch! That was very well done 👍
this is how the drivers of the 80s and 70s felt trying to control those unsteady cars, not to mention they didnt even have powersteering
No it isn’t.
Nah 60s and 70s f1 cars is like 15nm or more
If so why were the drivers of that era not bodybuilders lmao
@@semiedgv not as advanced equipment as today, they had to prioritize their core muscles and mental strength, and bodybuilding was just not their priority
Drivers back then were not fit, some of them were heavy smokers. Cars were slower, which made G forces lower, too. And in the 70s the cars already had wide radial slicks.
No one explained to them the left pedal can be used to slow down?
who needs gym when you got an FFB DD wheel?
My first endurance race i borrowed a 25Nm Podium DD2 wheel from my friend and went on a 6-hour race at Spa. Yeah.. .not the brightest decision ever. By hour 4 already had blisters on my hands, because i didn't have racing gloves. You simply don't need them on a G29. By the time i finished the race it was one of the hardest, most challenging and demanding things i've ever done. And i've worked in construction and took part in triathlon runs... nothing comes even close. If you wanna really REALLY challenge (and possibly destroy) you body AND mind, try it out. 6 hours, non-stop with the only rest being the refueling pit-stops.
was expecting at least 1 broken thumb
That's a really fantastic & amazing project. I am very happy to become a part of this event. Thanks for the opportunity
Are you terrorist from csgo?
I'd love to do this challenge myself! This video really confused me though, because I don't know how much torque the wheel in this video was generating. It's hard to compare these people's experiences to my own. For context, I use a DD2 and turned it up to 100% (25nm peak) with the torque key on day one. After the first couple of days I had absolutely no problems and I never turned it down after that. I can drive for at least a couple of hours before I get tired, but I don't train at the gym religiously.
I think at 150% you just gut more torque but also the risk of clipping rises. I think if the wheel would put out 20nm on average no human would last long except they actually drive high downforce cars without power steering.
when you do rigth braking then its much easier even with over 20Nm..when you know how to drive a car like this the feedback is your friend
And thats how you make a body builder respect a Gamer!
driving game: gets more and more realistic & is literally just about driving like in the real world. women: "i dont play videogames" "gaming skills would help here now"
The guy with the white hat with the glasses is so chill at 125% ffb he says oh this is startung to get serious
Shout out to Samson Dauda, Hosstile Army
I think I would find this physically easier because of driving skill. When you're driving well on the limit, and you're a proficient driver, the FFB is quite often moving your hands, and you're just guiding it. Wheras they'te fighting the FFB by chucking on a load of steering angle through the understeer.
i think thats what i felt like driving an F1 car back in the day when they had no power steering and they had to fight monstrous cars with god knows how much torque is being put out to the wheels
Even tho they have power steering.. F1 drivers have to train their arms to cope with the torque of the steering wheel to counteract the g-forces during cornering.
@@KayoMichiels they have power steering but it's hydrolic instead of electric
It wasn't really that bad. Have you ever drove a car that used rack and pin steering?
Once you're moving, it isn't that bad
F1 is rear wheel drive.
Except from driving over the humps you never get Forcefeedback as strong as these guys had in the video.
About 20% strength is realistic.
Group B rally is a bit harder, but no where as strong as what you can set in games.
Didn’t even give em a racing line 😂 just threw them to the wolves and made em sweat it out.
I'm really not trying to say this is easy, CAUSE ITS NOT, but a good part of what they're doing would be fixed if they hit the brakes more, still insane tho
They dont really know how to drive a f1 car, if you are not used to it you can’t coordinate it right
I was just waiting for one of them to crash and snap a wrist the whole time omg
I cannot imagine how It could have come out if they tested a chassis with a DD2 fanatec, it's absolute hell.
Take a simucube ultimate that one got over 30nm of torque
@@henkhenkos8647 my wrist hurts just thinking about it
@@Nathan-qt2zi yeah simucube ultimate just gonna break you're arm if you keep holding it while crashing that's for sure 😂
Would be nice to see a f1 driver.
The comparison would be really interesting.
150% Forcefeedback means nothing when ur wheelbase got no power.The Question is how much Torque can the Wheelbase produce?
By the pin on the QR, I'm pretty sure it is one of the simcubes. There are 17Nm, 25Nm, and 32Nm versions. I assume it is the 17Nm simcube 2 sport.
Does look like +15nm at least
F1 Drivers do this all the time during season. Also more difficult. Respect them.
Does anyone know what model steering wheel they are using?
I also want to know
In turning no one is going slow 😂
Pov: when u realize putting force feedback to max and u get stronger arm by days to days
honestly bout to get one of this just cuz of it
I love that there all just in their sporting clothes and not just in there daily normal clothes XD
I've always wondered. How much Force Feedback is realistic for an actual F1 car?
Because of power steering, 50-75%, in the F1 games. Idk how much would it be in other games such as Assetto Corsa for examole
Very little at all! The wheel only rotates a tiny amount now
It would have to be measured in Newtonmeter rather than the xx % they do in the video. There are wheels that have around 2-3 nm and some that have 30+
A Dodge Viper has around 10nm - which is relatively high. Formula 1 cars do have power steering, though. So I am sure it will not go above 15, but I dont know any exact numbers.
The 3rd guy looks like a very very jacked Nicholas latifi
Latifi looks a lil different
Funny to see people who don’t play simulators often experience force feedback really shows how hard it is to turn sometimes
It would be way less painful for them if they knew where and how to brake, trail brake and how and when to steer
It's not that deep bro
and this is an example of f1 drivers pure strength
Would be helpful to get to know the NM of the wheel base. 100% of a Thrustmaster T300 or a Simucube 2 Ultimate is quite different.
Yes exactly it would be great to either know the NM or the model and make of the base
Hopefully this gives a better perspective for those who chase wheel bases only for high NM torque numbers
Curious unknown fact: Simplicity is beta testing a (seriously) 65nm of peak torque direct drive steering wheel.
Edit: Simplicity, the name was simplicity
That is going to require like a 3000W PSU
@@Sithhy That's going to need a voice emergency stop because you won't have arms anymore
Why and what for ? 65nm ?! They making wrist snapping torture machine 🤣🤣 ?
@@cmdrhersin592 I don't know, ask Sim-plicity
@@Sithhy My DD1 can use up to 750 watts I believe. It's getting ridiculous. That said mine is definitely configured in ' old man setting ' so I can just cruise around.
What wheel are they using? I've ran SC Pro at max feedback and the only problem if when you let go. Holding on its "easy*" to control.
* You're tense, but no exaggerated movements like in the video.
which feedback percentage would be the most accurate to what f1 drivers feel?
Asking da real question
they also have to put all the braking power on their own. In street cars you have a braking force amplifier. they dont have that in f1 cars. they need to apply around 150kg of force to the brakes in heavy braking zomes like the end of long straights. this is very difficult in their sitting position, they need to use the g forces and the weight of their body to apply enogh force. must be also very exhausting!
The first time I raced and get on a real race car I was like "WOW WHAT MY ARMS GONNA EXPLODE AFTER THIS". Now, after 6 yrs, I use a 50-70% FF bc I feel like it's realistic when I play at simracing.
Tho, this guys handled better than I though.
You cannot compare percentages as if they mean anything on different wheels
Solution:use break pedal
Now you go! This was fun but I’d love a comparison with a less endowed person.
I’m guessing this wheel has a modified power supply?
It must be very well built.
There is a difference between big muscles and strong muscles. I’m not saying they aren’t strong but they aren’t as strong as they look
did any
And people still say that f1 drivers are not athletes
3:48 trying to brute force understeer xD
my guy going 150 MPH at a near hairpin turn LOL
my brother says how can I play VR games all day and be so fit, blessed with the rare 12 pack gene and force feedback
On this video the power it's probably less than 32/35 nm.
In real life in a proper corner where you achieve something like 2.5 G, and around 12,000 rpm, an f1 car deliver forces of more than 140 + nm.
It's just that f1 drivers training in a way the use theirs neck muscles with the shoulders muscles to deal with the absurd power and resistance from the steering wheel and the car.
I would pay to see them dealing with this kind lf power.
Its just on another level.
what Sim wheel setup is this? I have a Fanatec and dont think it would ever get this strong even with the 9nm upgrade. How much NM is this setup at 150%?!?!
Just tried this 😃,TYPIN wiht my toes rn
pro tip for the bodybuilders:
when the wheel does that shake thing grab the steering wheel by the top, the amount of times i’ve cut my finger open on the paddle shifters is crazy
Surprised the stirring wheel dint break