I'm no plumber, but would make sure that you use marine plywood when replacing the floor instead of that particle board. Also, don't replace walls with plasterboard. Use waterproof bathroom board instead particularly behind where shower will be. Looking at the insulation on outer walls, would remove all boards while you can and fill the voids with Kingspan. Maybe add an extractor fan if possible to prevent moisture build up in the future
Make some theres a ventilation gap between the waterproof bathroom board and the insulation to allow for future drying if there’s a leak. Use the blue paint aswel to seal everything.
Hi Will yes having full tanks of water from a dehumidifier left overnight is quite normal. They pull the water vapour out of the air and will fill the tank in any room, but you are still doing the right thing to help things dry out. Might be worth getting a cheap humidity sensor off amazon as well to monitor the levels in the room as you go.
make sure to block off toilet pipe to prevent sewer gases from coming in while you are working in the bathroom before toilet is back in place. and also don't forget to remove it before reinstalling the pipes and toilet.
This is how you learn things on your own, not pay someone who would charge a fortune, there is lots of videos on youtube to show u how to do exactly what your doing, it is a really nice looking flat and worth the money u paid for it and I think the other owner knew about this leak and just pushed it under the carpet. Thanks for sharing your video cheers, and Happy New Year to u and Evie x
The mold smell should have been have been brought up in the inspection but they ignored it. I think you have a wonderful attitude and I am so enjoying watching your renovations. You will make it a home the way you want it!
I love these vids Will. And for people thinking an inspector would have caught any of this is hilarious. They mostly do a visual inspection. If they can't see it they're not going to go searching for it. Therein lies the issue that contractors know they can get away with. P.S. anytime I do plumbing I let the sink/bath fill up then let the water drain in a massive quantity to check for leaks. Just a twinkle usually won't show any leaks.
Add a fan to work with that dehumidifier! When i worked a cleanup company we set the fans in a cyclone 🌀 pattern around a dehumidifier to help pull up the moisture
You're doing a great job Will, better to find these problems now than years down the line when they'll be 10 times worse, more stressful and much more expensive to put right. It might not feel like it now, but you know your flat will be perfect once it's finished and you and Evie can relax and enjoy it 😊
You're doing the right thing far better to rip out and start again than trying to make good a bad job. Take your time, keep everything square and plumb, you'll be fine 🙂
I feel like the general state of the flat, knowing how old the building is, the condition of the furniture, the condition of the building as a whole (with the basement) should have been enough to help you realise you wouldnt get a flat in a very good condition. That stud work in the bathroom is catastrophic but you're honestly doing a fantastic job at fixing everything. You can now take the time to create your own dream bathroom! I'm definitely waiting for these videos every week, can't wait to see the final result
When getting your survey do not use the one linked to your mortgage company! They don't even enter the house. Get your survey done 3rd party so they are employed by you. It makes a huge difference.
Ignore this false information. There are three tyres of common house surveys. The mortgage company usually instructs a valuation survey. They often don't go inside the house, they're just checking if the house is worth what you're paying for it. The second type of survey is a homebuyer survey. This is a more detailed survey, you usually have to pay extra for this and it can be booked to be some by the company that the mortgage company use.
@@WillsWhereabouts Even when paying for expensive more in depth surveys, the report always has the small print more or less absolving the surveyor of any comeback if he misses something. They are still worth getting because they may spot something you haven’t seen, but they can and do miss things. Buying any property is a gamble, less and less people can afford, but its still better than renting.
@@WillsWhereabouts that's rough. I paid the extra for the "in depth" survey and they never entered the property. I only found out later after key handover unfortunately.
Press on Will, this is GREAT UA-cam content! (Sorry for your experience on this, but in used properties, this is not unusual. You are going about it logically and once you dry out what is there, spray for mold and mildew prevention and get some carpentery/friend advise on some structural wood work, some plumber/friend advise on helping you upgrade/ move the pipes and put marine grade drywall and marine subflooring back throughout the bathroom, you will have a great apartment...keep upgrading!)
When using a dehumidifier Will , you need to close off the rest of your property and shut windows as they pull out moisture from everywhere. Feel so sorry for you , but think positively as your going to get the bathroom how you want it and you know everything will be perfect.superb vlog 👏👏
A word of advice also. I assume you have a Lease or Lease with percentage of freehold with this property. Either way there is a Freeholder/Landlord. You own a lease not the freehold. It may say in your lease you cannot start changing the plasterboard or joists etc. It may be up to the freeholder so please take a look. You can request an official copy through the land registry. I don't want you to violate the terms of your leasehold.
We had a mouldy cold wall in our old house. We used to have a massive mould problem where the hot air hit the cold in the winter. We ended up with a dehumidifier and dehumidifier extractor fan we also painted mould resistant paint and then bathroom paint over the top. The bathroom was so much better for having these done after. The dehumidifier used to drain into the toilet as well so we didn’t need to empty it. Keep up the good work though it’s epic and the flat will look great if your bedroom is anything to go by.
I am sorry you are going through this lad. I just bought my first house in Devon last April. I did a level 2 too and so far no issues. I have also renovated the whole property so have had a good look at all joists and floor boards. One thing I am amazed at is that I was forced by the lender of my Mortgage to do a Mundic block survey on top of my normal survey. This is because houses built out of mundic block the 50s and 60s in Devon and Cornwall mostly are un mortgage able because they slowly fall apart. I am amazed a bank is willing to lend you whatever they did for a flat that is not on the ground floor and don't seem to give a monkeys about the floor above and the floor below rotting away. Anyway I have faith in your ability. Its a really horrible situation but im sure you will learn alot of skills from it and eventually come out on top !
keep it up fella ,you are doing it the right way ,and thatll give you both peace of mind and increase value ..its stressy but you will be much stronger in the future for all your efforts ,keep grounded ...itll all be fine in the end ..
Good idea to do this work yourself. It might take you a lot longer than a professional builder, I use the word "professional" very loosely when it comes to some builders, but you will know the job is done properly, it will be cheaper, no labour costs, and you will learn a lot of new skills
Joys of owning houses Will, bought ours 10 years ago still fixing old bodge jobs to this day and you definitely need a bigger dehumidifier or least one that constantly drains
That flat is in a nice town, near a pub and train station. I think the last owner knew about the leak, so I am guessing that is why they sold up. I am loving these videos. When do we see you renovate/design a house that has a blank canvas? Have a great week Will.
Hi Will this is common practise when you buy a property, you unearth all kinds of problems, once you move in and start to scrutinise things that’s when you find it all, it will be lovely when you have done it, you can start to enjoy it. Good luck to you both ❤️🩷
Great to see you do it the right way, the learning curve is steep but necessary 😉 I know it's a summer series so it's too late for you but some might find it useful : -don't use push fit plumbing fittings in walls, as you saw in the last video the pipe isn't sufficiently secured to ensure a long lasting connection. That's not surprising considering their wood work but not worth the risk. -that black 90° toilet pipe fitting you removed was put the wrong way in. Hopefully the whole line wasn't done this way as the pipe going into the seal is meant to be the upstream one. -when working with plumbing in flats, especially when dealing with toilets, be sure to lock the opening for the smell and, if you're not at the top of the building, to prevent waste water coming your way -when you find a leak you should try to find and fix it first before decorating the room next to it. If needed you could have had to tear the partition wall down to rebuild it completely, and it could have been a good time to think the rooms differently. On that note I would move the towel heater closer to the new shower so it's easier to grab towels and not in the doorway
from what ive learnt of you Will, is you are generally a tidy person, you also like things to be clean. so, itll be a very tidy and clean job, nothing like the rubbish you found behind the plaster board.
Hey will, doing a good job. We had water damage once, the pro who fixed it said it's essential to close off the area youre drying with the dehumidifiers inside. Otherwise the dehumidifiers pull air from the rest of the house or outside and dont work well. Cheers
We had a level 2 and it picked up poor sealant around the shower and sinks. They should have at least said something similar if you managed to find it in seconds of looking
Im amazed nothing ever went downstairs! Only this evening my bathroom had a leak due to a breach in the sealant. was pouring into the neighbours flat downstairs :( You will get there Will and Evie . Dont be disheartened xxx
Damn! I feel for you Will & Evie!! It's crazy to think a simple 'clause' prevents you from claiming insurance for clearly a serious structural issue caused by a leak! Wish I was in the UK to give you a hand! Stay safe Mate! 😎
Once again Wil your doing the right thing to take it right back to get a good fixing, on your new installation of new timber , wayrock flooring is cheap and rubbish, start with marine plywood on the floor, treat your joists as well, underfloor heating could be a way forward as well, and yes I would say that amount of water removed is right not only taking from the bathroom, but other places in your lovely property that was damp from this long ongoing leak, keep at it it will be all worthwhile 😊
My goodness this looks like a verry big job and I bet you wheren't expecting this after a building inspector checked it ? I would be mad and sad at the same time !!! I wish you all the best in your new house !!!
I got severe depression after buying my first flat. I won’t go into details but it was the worst time of my life. Luckily I managed to get a lot of overtime at work and worked my way out of that situation and onto better things but yeah as a naive first time buyer it’s so easy to walk into a huge mistake and feel like you’re then trapped.
get 2 2 by 4s and brace the stud walls by cutting noggins and screw them to the uprights of the stud wall. Then you can cut out the rotten wood and replace it. The dehumidifiers are taking water out of the air as well as the damp in the walls and floor. They look small ones so will fill up quicker than the industrial ones.
It's a shame you are having to do this but it will look great when you have finished it. Hopefully, it will give you peace of mind as well. You're doing a great job!
Such a shame that you did not pay for the #3 home inspection level, but no point in looking back now. Live and learn as they say. What amazes me is how that guy was living there for a decade with such a leak, it's incredible! And how it was sold in that state and no one knew? I am skeptical. And, I congratulate you Will for always tackling things head on even if you don't know what you are doing! that's the attitude and how you learn. With your attention to detail, that bathroom will look better than ever when all is said and done. 😍
With our first house, we didn't realise that the electrical box had been fitted under the sink, next to a plug socket for the washing machine. The gas heater had also been set up so the front legs were placed on black metal cups and then dropped up against the wall. It was a huge learning curve.
As for the dehumidifier’s, yeah that’s normal. I leave one on in my bedroom most days in the winter and it collects double what you have there. The humidity in the room can be at 72% by the time I get home it’s around 58%.
As always Will, highly entertaining regardless of the floor situation. Which I'm sorry for. I hope they see this bloody video! Fancy leaving it like that.
🏆 top job Will. Sorry you got snagged like that I had something similar 20 yrs ago whole concrete bathroom floor sweating, damp stinky got bath resealed & the floors screeded & resurfaced. It's always a risk buying property but let's be thankful it's not actually worse
We had a similar problem after we'd been in our house for a few years. We only discovered the leak in our daughters bedroom when we moved a wardrobe & the carpet was wet. Our taps had been leaking the otherside of the wall. We managed to claim off our house insurance. They fixed the leak but had to remove the plaster board in the bathroom & bedroom. I know you've just decorated your bedroom but please check & be careful you might need to replace that too. Hope not for your sake. Loving the renovation but take care if yourself ...
They do a basic inspection, in the wording "may have unseen or hidden issues" I live in Australia and have been thru this. Much love and get thru it Best Reagrds Andrew from downunder
Loving these vids 😊 we think your doing an amazing job ❤ it must be soo daunting tackling something like this but you are doing a great job and better to be thorough and do it properly. Nice one 💪👍👌
I'd say, you definitely should have gotten the level 3 inspection ... but I'll also highlight, that even though you 'pay' for the level 3 ... it would also depend who you got out there doing the survey/review. And if the insurance claims/insurance companies are anything like the ones here in Canada ... they will still find any possible reason to NOT pay you out of the damages/repairs. If anything, like you highlighted, you are learning, its obviously creating some GREAT content on your UA-cam channel, and guess what ... one day if you were to buy another flat ... you will now know what to look for, and where to look!! Keep up the great work Will!! Really enjoying the content! ps. I'm the guy who messaged you on Instagram as well, about taking up comedy haha! :P
Will, I'm no builder, but I'd say you have a second stud wall where the bath and toilet were, saying that I believe you should be able to move the whole wall back about 4 inches, depending the pipework is in the furthest studwork, you should also be able to move the toilet soil pipe to where you want, and then take the new shower waste out under floor level, you've got a lot of work ahead of you, but I'm sure if you take your time and research before you jump in, it'll come out good in the end, best of luck, Neil
that cable will be downstairs light fitting and the loose wood batterns are no supprise working on building sites years ago batterns and stud work would often get missed and more than often the people who put the plasterboard in would often try to fit a battern or stud just so they could get the plasterboard up and being as many were on price work they wouldnt be hanging about and wasting time on someone elses bad work ,if you see half the stuff done on modern houses you wouldnt want to move in, is often a case of what they eye dont see dosnt matter and i wouldnt get to down on it as it happens all the time ,most moves will find one problem or another the good thing is to your credit you are getting on and learning as you go how to put it right and that will put you in a good position in years to come
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I think it's a case of, 'what the eye can't see, the heart can't grieve over', as far as the seller of the house was concerned. They may not have intentionally ignored the fact that water was leaking from the back of the bathtub, but they certainly didn't want to do anything to find out whether it was, or where the smell of damp, (particularly in the adjacent bedroom), was coming from. It may well have been a factor in why they wanted to sell-up, though. I guess we'll never know. The bathroom in general does look like a bit of a botch job, in that they used the minimal amount of materials and did the job as quickly as possible. Particle/chip board is notorious for blunting saws, due to the glue used to stick it all together being responsible for it. It's a good idea to rearrange things whilst you have the opportunity. The toilet next to the window is a good idea as you can ventilate it easier, for one thing. Moving the towel radiator is also a good idea, as you demonstrated in regard to it's position behind the door not being the best. The good news is the joists under the floor look in good nick, over all. The damp went sideways rather than down, thanks in large to the particle board soaking a lot of it up. It did start creeping up the side wall and across into the a-joining bedroom, but not by much. That back wall wanted coming out, anyway. I doubt it was plumb or straight to the rest of the room.
Good luck will fella . Big ball ache I know but will be worth it ……. Thanks for upload . If it all gets to much …. Tools down take Evie out for some food reset go back to next day 👍🏻
I can’t help but ask 😂…. Apart from the noise etc . Have you met, and had chats with your neighbour below ? Is his ceiling okay? Is he/ she friendly ?? You should knock, attempt to swap notes 😊😊 but well done for sorting it out yourselves ( new skills always good to have ! ) ❤️
Good evening Will’s just watched your video in the bathroom when replacing that floor don’t use chipboard you need to use marine ply in the bathroom. I’ve had similar problem like round the toilet and that’s sort of thing and and replaced it with marine ply which is more solid than that chipboard there. And then you’ll only ever do it once and it properly all the best
Bought and sold loads of houses, theres always problems. Your doing a cracking job Will. I would have done exactly the same strip it right back. The bathroom will look tons better with just a shower at the end anyway. Bloody surveys are not worth the money, cant tell me he didnt smell the damp
I've never seen anyone use a dehumidifier like that. Most of the carpenters that I know just let it "air/dry" out on it's own for a few days. That looked like an excellent idea. I'd let it go until it hardly collected any water over night.
Hi Will, I don't know about you being able to do a better job than the builders, I think I could👵🏻🤭, on the bright side you will be an expert to build your own house in the future. Seriously, it is such a shame you are having to go through all this time, labour and expense 💙
There are three types of surveys when you buy a house. More expensive for more checks. They're typically non-invasive so rhey wouldnt be removing bath panels to check for leaks. Theyre also deliberately vague, for example it might state "there are no visible water leaks". You dont have any comeback regarding the bathroom leak, i wouldnt even waste time thinking about it. I bought a house and on day 1 realised the gas boiler needed replacing, as did every window. No comeback with the surveyors either
Oh my god you poor buggers ! The owner of that flat must of known. But Will you live and learn And your doing the best thing by ripping it all out and replace it .
Offt what a ball ache! At least you found it on day dot and don't have to pay extra money in future to rip it all out and start again. It'll all be worth it! Sorry to hear you couldn't get any money back for the mould and dodgy bath. C'est la vie - you & Evie will smash it and it'll look FAB
Bloody hell, that is seriously drastic. Property buying is a nightmare, I've just moved into a 2019 built flat and there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't work. And of course is out of warranty now. So irritating. Like ypu, didn't have the full L3 survey because well... new build. 🤷
Not sure why people are bothering to waste their time making suggestions… I’d guess these videos are at least 3 months behind and the bathroom is likely completely finished.
If your going to tile the floor use marine ply 9 screws per sq,foot also abacus board's instead of plasterboard is the way to go ,thats what the pro,s use.. Bombproof (if done per spec)
Will, I've brought 2 properties, both with level 3, and things went wrong with both properties. The boiler broke down within days, and the toilet was leaking as well, absolutely not worth the money!!!
So sorry for you Will what a rough start. The joys of being a home owner it never ends , welcome to the eternal D I Y club . Learn to enjoy the process it helps .
I'm actually cringing watching this video 😂 It'll be totally worth it in the end though cos not only will you have a beautiful new bathroom, you'll have learnt some new skills and gained more knowledge which will come in handy further down the road 🙂
In the States we refer to what you are going through as “the joys of home ownership”. The investment and experience will pay off in the end Will. Keep your chin up.
I heard that you should fill up the bathtub with water then seal around the edges , if you seal empty the weight of the tub when filled will open up gaps in the sealant , is this info correct ?
Christ what happens if there’s pipes or cables in the way tho? Thankfully there wasn’t but I wanted to stay on the safe side and take it out slowly to make sure I didn’t go through any potential pipes
@WillsWhereabouts adjust the depth of the blade/cut so it only just gets through the thickness of the board. No chance of cutting through pipes or cables, however using a multi tool it's much more difficult to control the cutting depth and more likely to hit a pipe or cable
I would also remove plasterboard around pipework by the sink. Open it all up, correct anything poorly completed before covering up. Piece of mind thing really. Also the end wall is a false wall. Remove and reframe. The internal wall should really have the pipe work removed as it is compromising the stud wall. Is this load bearing??? Easy fix to put stud next to it and nail old one to it. Then run pipe work in cavity between that wall and new false wall you put back in.
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Will you were ripped my dad's a plumber and I showed him the video and even he said their is quite a few problems
I'm no plumber, but would make sure that you use marine plywood when replacing the floor instead of that particle board. Also, don't replace walls with plasterboard. Use waterproof bathroom board instead particularly behind where shower will be. Looking at the insulation on outer walls, would remove all boards while you can and fill the voids with Kingspan. Maybe add an extractor fan if possible to prevent moisture build up in the future
Kingspan doesn’t breathe. Glass wool all the way and plywood isn’t designed for floors
Make some theres a ventilation gap between the waterproof bathroom board and the insulation to allow for future drying if there’s a leak. Use the blue paint aswel to seal everything.
I totally agree marine ply to floor well screwed down and abacus boards to shower wall..😊
@@bignickbignic6190 funny you diy’ers 😂, plywood is made for shear strength, shear strength do you know what that means?
I agree 👍
Considering you’re not a plumber, builder, tradesman etc of any kind, you’re doing a very impressive job!
on the plus side, this is turning into the best series of vids ever ;)
😂😂 there’s always a positive I suppose
Where there's a Will there's a way! you're doing amazing ❤
👊🏻👊🏻 I’m getting there, slowly slowly
Hi Will yes having full tanks of water from a dehumidifier left overnight is quite normal. They pull the water vapour out of the air and will fill the tank in any room, but you are still doing the right thing to help things dry out. Might be worth getting a cheap humidity sensor off amazon as well to monitor the levels in the room as you go.
Good advise mark.
Thanks Mark that’s great to know as I’d never really used them before and was shocked that it had 2 full tanks in a short space of time
make sure to block off toilet pipe to prevent sewer gases from coming in while you are working in the bathroom before toilet is back in place. and also don't forget to remove it before reinstalling the pipes and toilet.
got to say will i loved your camping videos but man these diy vids are top tier keep em coming
Every time you upload it makes my day 10x better, I throughly enjoy every video you upload
This is how you learn things on your own, not pay someone who would charge a fortune, there is lots of videos on youtube to show u how to do exactly what your doing, it is a really nice looking flat and worth the money u paid for it and I think the other owner knew about this leak and just pushed it under the carpet. Thanks for sharing your video cheers, and Happy New Year to u and Evie x
Thanks, it’s all part of the process and a great learning experience that’s for sure
Definitely a diy bathroom Will. I've seen so many like yours that fail in no time at all. Glad to see your tearing it all out and starting again👍
The mold smell should have been have been brought up in the inspection but they ignored it. I think you have a wonderful attitude and I am so enjoying watching your renovations. You will make it a home the way you want it!
It’s frustrating but what can you do ey, just got to make it 100x better than before
Love to see lots of people with super helpful comments
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I love these vids Will. And for people thinking an inspector would have caught any of this is hilarious. They mostly do a visual inspection. If they can't see it they're not going to go searching for it. Therein lies the issue that contractors know they can get away with.
P.S. anytime I do plumbing I let the sink/bath fill up then let the water drain in a massive quantity to check for leaks. Just a twinkle usually won't show any leaks.
Yea it’s a shame that they do such a horrible job at checking for issues like we had but what can you do. Just got to make it 100x better than before
Add a fan to work with that dehumidifier! When i worked a cleanup company we set the fans in a cyclone 🌀 pattern around a dehumidifier to help pull up the moisture
That’s good to know as I hadn’t heard about that, thanks mate
You're doing a great job Will, better to find these problems now than years down the line when they'll be 10 times worse, more stressful and much more expensive to put right. It might not feel like it now, but you know your flat will be perfect once it's finished and you and Evie can relax and enjoy it 😊
Wow I can’t believe how much mold was actually there so much moisture and damage. 😢 can’t wait for the next video
Well done in what you have achieved so far!
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You're doing the right thing far better to rip out and start again than trying to make good a bad job.
Take your time, keep everything square and plumb, you'll be fine 🙂
I feel like the general state of the flat, knowing how old the building is, the condition of the furniture, the condition of the building as a whole (with the basement) should have been enough to help you realise you wouldnt get a flat in a very good condition. That stud work in the bathroom is catastrophic but you're honestly doing a fantastic job at fixing everything. You can now take the time to create your own dream bathroom! I'm definitely waiting for these videos every week, can't wait to see the final result
When getting your survey do not use the one linked to your mortgage company! They don't even enter the house. Get your survey done 3rd party so they are employed by you. It makes a huge difference.
Ignore this false information. There are three tyres of common house surveys. The mortgage company usually instructs a valuation survey. They often don't go inside the house, they're just checking if the house is worth what you're paying for it. The second type of survey is a homebuyer survey. This is a more detailed survey, you usually have to pay extra for this and it can be booked to be some by the company that the mortgage company use.
We actually did use an external company from our mortgage but clearly didn’t make a difference 😂
@@WillsWhereabouts Even when paying for expensive more in depth surveys, the report always has the small print more or less absolving the surveyor of any comeback if he misses something. They are still worth getting because they may spot something you haven’t seen, but they can and do miss things. Buying any property is a gamble, less and less people can afford, but its still better than renting.
@@WillsWhereabouts that's rough. I paid the extra for the "in depth" survey and they never entered the property. I only found out later after key handover unfortunately.
Considering you're not skilled in any building work , you're doing a really amazing professional job, very impressed, and loving your videos
Well done. It’s hard not to get disheartened but think you’re dealing with this really well. And great content. Good luck!!!
Press on Will, this is GREAT UA-cam content! (Sorry for your experience on this, but in used properties, this is not unusual. You are going about it logically and once you dry out what is there, spray for mold and mildew prevention and get some carpentery/friend advise on some structural wood work, some plumber/friend advise on helping you upgrade/ move the pipes and put marine grade drywall and marine subflooring back throughout the bathroom, you will have a great apartment...keep upgrading!)
It’s all part of the process and a great learning experience that’s for sure 😊
Well done Will I admire your pure gumption at getting stuck in. It will be fantastic when it's finished......looking forward to next week. x
Fingers crossed!
When using a dehumidifier Will , you need to close off the rest of your property and shut windows as they pull out moisture from everywhere. Feel so sorry for you , but think positively as your going to get the bathroom how you want it and you know everything will be perfect.superb vlog 👏👏
A word of advice also. I assume you have a Lease or Lease with percentage of freehold with this property. Either way there is a Freeholder/Landlord. You own a lease not the freehold. It may say in your lease you cannot start changing the plasterboard or joists etc. It may be up to the freeholder so please take a look. You can request an official copy through the land registry. I don't want you to violate the terms of your leasehold.
We had a mouldy cold wall in our old house. We used to have a massive mould problem where the hot air hit the cold in the winter. We ended up with a dehumidifier and dehumidifier extractor fan we also painted mould resistant paint and then bathroom paint over the top. The bathroom was so much better for having these done after. The dehumidifier used to drain into the toilet as well so we didn’t need to empty it.
Keep up the good work though it’s epic and the flat will look great if your bedroom is anything to go by.
I am sorry you are going through this lad. I just bought my first house in Devon last April. I did a level 2 too and so far no issues. I have also renovated the whole property so have had a good look at all joists and floor boards. One thing I am amazed at is that I was forced by the lender of my Mortgage to do a Mundic block survey on top of my normal survey. This is because houses built out of mundic block the 50s and 60s in Devon and Cornwall mostly are un mortgage able because they slowly fall apart. I am amazed a bank is willing to lend you whatever they did for a flat that is not on the ground floor and don't seem to give a monkeys about the floor above and the floor below rotting away.
Anyway I have faith in your ability. Its a really horrible situation but im sure you will learn alot of skills from it and eventually come out on top !
Can’t believe the surveyor didn’t smell damp or see the massive damp patch in the bedroom. Your first home should be exciting and fun.
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Your enthusiasm and attention to get the job done properly is 💯
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keep it up fella ,you are doing it the right way ,and thatll give you both peace of mind and increase value ..its stressy but you will be much stronger in the future for all your efforts ,keep grounded ...itll all be fine in the end ..
Amazing work, I feel the pain but you’re doing a bloody great job!
Good idea to do this work yourself. It might take you a lot longer than a professional builder, I use the word "professional" very loosely when it comes to some builders, but you will know the job is done properly, it will be cheaper, no labour costs, and you will learn a lot of new skills
100% that’s the reason why I want to give it all a go myself! It’s all a great learning experience
Will honestly one day it’ll all be a memory and you can enjoy many happy years in your lovely flat ❤
Yes I agree. In the end you will have a beautiful flat and know it is exactly how you want it. No hidden surprises. Thoroughly enjoy your videos.
Wow will you're being a trouper. Hats off to your hard work.
Joys of owning houses Will, bought ours 10 years ago still fixing old bodge jobs to this day and you definitely need a bigger dehumidifier or least one that constantly drains
That flat is in a nice town, near a pub and train station. I think the last owner knew about the leak, so I am guessing that is why they sold up. I am loving these videos. When do we see you renovate/design a house that has a blank canvas? Have a great week Will.
Thank you for sharing your learning curves n being brave to say you go to therapies😊
Well done, yet again, you’re smashing it !!!! 🎉😊
Hello will you are doing a great job. You have the right attitude making a lovely home for your love ones. You are a great young man ❤
Thanks Thomas 😊
Hi Will this is common practise when you buy a property, you unearth all kinds of problems, once you move in and start to scrutinise things that’s when you find it all, it will be lovely when you have done it, you can start to enjoy it. Good luck to you both ❤️🩷
Great to see you do it the right way, the learning curve is steep but necessary 😉
I know it's a summer series so it's too late for you but some might find it useful :
-don't use push fit plumbing fittings in walls, as you saw in the last video the pipe isn't sufficiently secured to ensure a long lasting connection. That's not surprising considering their wood work but not worth the risk.
-that black 90° toilet pipe fitting you removed was put the wrong way in. Hopefully the whole line wasn't done this way as the pipe going into the seal is meant to be the upstream one.
-when working with plumbing in flats, especially when dealing with toilets, be sure to lock the opening for the smell and, if you're not at the top of the building, to prevent waste water coming your way
-when you find a leak you should try to find and fix it first before decorating the room next to it. If needed you could have had to tear the partition wall down to rebuild it completely, and it could have been a good time to think the rooms differently. On that note I would move the towel heater closer to the new shower so it's easier to grab towels and not in the doorway
Love these vids! Keep em coming! Will your doing a great job! 👍
Love watching your vlogs and your learning process, go Will❤
We had a leak for ages in our bathroom got some on insurance but cost thousands to repair . But a positive you found it to deal with it
from what ive learnt of you Will, is you are generally a tidy person, you also like things to be clean. so, itll be a very tidy and clean job, nothing like the rubbish you found behind the plaster board.
Oh it will be Peter, going to look great if I can pull it off
Fantastic video as always Will, thank you very much mate!!! 👌 Fair play to you for doing it all properly & professionally 👌 All the best to you & Evie
Hey will, doing a good job. We had water damage once, the pro who fixed it said it's essential to close off the area youre drying with the dehumidifiers inside. Otherwise the dehumidifiers pull air from the rest of the house or outside and dont work well. Cheers
We had a level 2 and it picked up poor sealant around the shower and sinks. They should have at least said something similar if you managed to find it in seconds of looking
It does bamboozle me tbh but you get the same political answers back about it being ‘general wear and tear’
Im amazed nothing ever went downstairs! Only this evening my bathroom had a leak due to a breach in the sealant. was pouring into the neighbours flat downstairs :( You will get there Will and Evie . Dont be disheartened xxx
great work will 😊
Damn! I feel for you Will & Evie!! It's crazy to think a simple 'clause' prevents you from claiming insurance for clearly a serious structural issue caused by a leak! Wish I was in the UK to give you a hand! Stay safe Mate! 😎
Good job Will, I'm sure you will have a cracking flat after the renovation with your attention to detail.
It can’t look any worse I suppose hah
Thanks Rob, it can’t look any worse I suppose
Get yourself some HG Mould Spray. The foam one I find best. Will kill off any spors before you close up.
I used some Zinser mold killer but that’s good to know for future projects
Once again Wil your doing the right thing to take it right back to get a good fixing, on your new installation of new timber , wayrock flooring is cheap and rubbish, start with marine plywood on the floor, treat your joists as well, underfloor heating could be a way forward as well, and yes I would say that amount of water removed is right not only taking from the bathroom, but other places in your lovely property that was damp from this long ongoing leak, keep at it it will be all worthwhile 😊
My goodness this looks like a verry big job and I bet you wheren't expecting this after a building inspector checked it ?
I would be mad and sad at the same time !!! I wish you all the best in your new house !!!
Thanks Nico
I got severe depression after buying my first flat. I won’t go into details but it was the worst time of my life. Luckily I managed to get a lot of overtime at work and worked my way out of that situation and onto better things but yeah as a naive first time buyer it’s so easy to walk into a huge mistake and feel like you’re then trapped.
get 2 2 by 4s and brace the stud walls by cutting noggins and screw them to the uprights of the stud wall. Then you can cut out the rotten wood and replace it. The dehumidifiers are taking water out of the air as well as the damp in the walls and floor. They look small ones so will fill up quicker than the industrial ones.
It's a shame you are having to do this but it will look great when you have finished it. Hopefully, it will give you peace of mind as well. You're doing a great job!
100% rather rip it all out and start again
Such a shame that you did not pay for the #3 home inspection level, but no point in looking back now. Live and learn as they say.
What amazes me is how that guy was living there for a decade with such a leak, it's incredible! And how it was sold in that state and no one knew? I am skeptical.
And, I congratulate you Will for always tackling things head on even if you don't know what you are doing! that's the attitude and how you learn. With your attention to detail, that bathroom will look better than ever when all is said and done. 😍
With our first house, we didn't realise that the electrical box had been fitted under the sink, next to a plug socket for the washing machine. The gas heater had also been set up so the front legs were placed on black metal cups and then dropped up against the wall. It was a huge learning curve.
As for the dehumidifier’s, yeah that’s normal. I leave one on in my bedroom most days in the winter and it collects double what you have there. The humidity in the room can be at 72% by the time I get home it’s around 58%.
As always Will, highly entertaining regardless of the floor situation. Which I'm sorry for. I hope they see this bloody video! Fancy leaving it like that.
Glad you enjoyed it
🏆 top job Will. Sorry you got snagged like that I had something similar 20 yrs ago whole concrete bathroom floor sweating, damp stinky got bath resealed & the floors screeded & resurfaced. It's always a risk buying property but let's be thankful it's not actually worse
We had a similar problem after we'd been in our house for a few years. We only discovered the leak in our daughters bedroom when we moved a wardrobe & the carpet was wet. Our taps had been leaking the otherside of the wall. We managed to claim off our house insurance. They fixed the leak but had to remove the plaster board in the bathroom & bedroom. I know you've just decorated your bedroom but please check & be careful you might need to replace that too. Hope not for your sake. Loving the renovation but take care if yourself ...
They do a basic inspection, in the wording "may have unseen or hidden issues" I live in Australia and have been thru this. Much love and get thru it Best Reagrds Andrew from downunder
Loving these vids 😊 we think your doing an amazing job ❤ it must be soo daunting tackling something like this but you are doing a great job and better to be thorough and do it properly. Nice one 💪👍👌
I'd say, you definitely should have gotten the level 3 inspection ... but I'll also highlight, that even though you 'pay' for the level 3 ... it would also depend who you got out there doing the survey/review. And if the insurance claims/insurance companies are anything like the ones here in Canada ... they will still find any possible reason to NOT pay you out of the damages/repairs.
If anything, like you highlighted, you are learning, its obviously creating some GREAT content on your UA-cam channel, and guess what ... one day if you were to buy another flat ... you will now know what to look for, and where to look!! Keep up the great work Will!! Really enjoying the content! ps. I'm the guy who messaged you on Instagram as well, about taking up comedy haha! :P
Will, I'm no builder, but I'd say you have a second stud wall where the bath and toilet were, saying that I believe you should be able to move the whole wall back about 4 inches, depending the pipework is in the furthest studwork, you should also be able to move the toilet soil pipe to where you want, and then take the new shower waste out under floor level, you've got a lot of work ahead of you, but I'm sure if you take your time and research before you jump in, it'll come out good in the end, best of luck, Neil
Thanks Neil for the great advice, I’m taking it step by step and trying to make sure I understand everything beforehand
that cable will be downstairs light fitting and the loose wood batterns are no supprise working on building sites years ago batterns and stud work would often get missed and more than often the people who put the plasterboard in would often try to fit a battern or stud just so they could get the plasterboard up and being as many were on price work they wouldnt be hanging about and wasting time on someone elses bad work ,if you see half the stuff done on modern houses you wouldnt want to move in, is often a case of what they eye dont see dosnt matter and i wouldnt get to down on it as it happens all the time ,most moves will find one problem or another the good thing is to your credit you are getting on and learning as you go how to put it right and that will put you in a good position in years to come
Can't you claim on your buildings insurance?
100% it’s all a great learning experience that’s will do well for me in the future
@@Nat6999no I did mention this in the video
● OH, THE FLOOR, USE MARINE Y, GREEN STUFF
● USE A RUBBER SHEET, SEALED TO THE MARINE PLY WITH WATERPROIF ADHESIVE
● SEAL THE SIDES WITH SILICONE TO TANK IN ANY LEAKS GOING DOWNSTAIRS
PLAN PLAN PLAN, YOUR NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG
● STUD wall bottom, replace the rotten stud, redo the studs in between
The framing was done on a Friday afternoon
I think it's a case of, 'what the eye can't see, the heart can't grieve over', as far as the seller of the house was concerned. They may not have intentionally ignored the fact that water was leaking from the back of the bathtub, but they certainly didn't want to do anything to find out whether it was, or where the smell of damp, (particularly in the adjacent bedroom), was coming from. It may well have been a factor in why they wanted to sell-up, though. I guess we'll never know. The bathroom in general does look like a bit of a botch job, in that they used the minimal amount of materials and did the job as quickly as possible. Particle/chip board is notorious for blunting saws, due to the glue used to stick it all together being responsible for it. It's a good idea to rearrange things whilst you have the opportunity. The toilet next to the window is a good idea as you can ventilate it easier, for one thing. Moving the towel radiator is also a good idea, as you demonstrated in regard to it's position behind the door not being the best. The good news is the joists under the floor look in good nick, over all. The damp went sideways rather than down, thanks in large to the particle board soaking a lot of it up. It did start creeping up the side wall and across into the a-joining bedroom, but not by much. That back wall wanted coming out, anyway. I doubt it was plumb or straight to the rest of the room.
If you have an old building things happen when you look deep enough. What the previous owner didn't do was keep up to maintaining it 😊
Yahh I totally agree, just goes to show the regular maintenance is required
Good luck will fella . Big ball ache I know but will be worth it ……. Thanks for upload . If it all gets to much …. Tools down take Evie out for some food reset go back to next day 👍🏻
Great advice that because there’s many days where I’ve wanted to smash the place up 😂
I can’t help but ask 😂…. Apart from the noise etc . Have you met, and had chats with your neighbour below ? Is his ceiling okay? Is he/ she friendly ?? You should knock, attempt to swap notes 😊😊 but well done for sorting it out yourselves ( new skills always good to have ! ) ❤️
I haven’t met them directly but I have been in contact with them to check if they had any damage which thankfully and surprisingly they haven’t
@@WillsWhereabouts VERY surprisingly 😳 ( then, when you do meet them, show them this vid….coz they owe you a bottle of wine … at least! 😂)
Good evening Will’s just watched your video in the bathroom when replacing that floor don’t use chipboard you need to use marine ply in the bathroom. I’ve had similar problem like round the toilet and that’s sort of thing and and replaced it with marine ply which is more solid than that chipboard there. And then you’ll only ever do it once and it properly all the best
Bought and sold loads of houses, theres always problems. Your doing a cracking job Will. I would have done exactly the same strip it right back. The bathroom will look tons better with just a shower at the end anyway. Bloody surveys are not worth the money, cant tell me he didnt smell the damp
I've never seen anyone use a dehumidifier like that. Most of the carpenters that I know just let it "air/dry" out on it's own for a few days. That looked like an excellent idea. I'd let it go until it hardly collected any water over night.
While you have the floor up, you will want a flush shower tray? The u-trap sits in between the joists
Great video
Thanks!
Looking forward to next Video!
Coming soon!
Have you had a look at the bedroom floor as it's next to the bathroom mate
Yea I doubled checked mate and it’s ok now I’ve stopped the leak
@WillsWhereabouts That's good mate keep up the good videos ok
Hi Will, I don't know about you being able to do a better job than the builders, I think I could👵🏻🤭, on the bright side you will be an expert to build your own house in the future. Seriously, it is such a shame you are having to go through all this time, labour and expense 💙
Wait until you see what I do and then you’ll say I’ve done a better job than the builders 😊
@@WillsWhereabouts By the looks of it you have already. Looking forward to seeing it😀
There are three types of surveys when you buy a house. More expensive for more checks. They're typically non-invasive so rhey wouldnt be removing bath panels to check for leaks. Theyre also deliberately vague, for example it might state "there are no visible water leaks". You dont have any comeback regarding the bathroom leak, i wouldnt even waste time thinking about it. I bought a house and on day 1 realised the gas boiler needed replacing, as did every window. No comeback with the surveyors either
Yep all a time waste which is why I’m just cracking on
Oh my god you poor buggers ! The owner of that flat must of known. But Will you live and learn
And your doing the best thing by ripping it all out and replace it .
It’s all part of the process I suppose 😊
Offt what a ball ache! At least you found it on day dot and don't have to pay extra money in future to rip it all out and start again. It'll all be worth it! Sorry to hear you couldn't get any money back for the mould and dodgy bath. C'est la vie - you & Evie will smash it and it'll look FAB
Bloody hell, that is seriously drastic. Property buying is a nightmare, I've just moved into a 2019 built flat and there's a bunch of stuff that doesn't work. And of course is out of warranty now. So irritating. Like ypu, didn't have the full L3 survey because well... new build. 🤷
It’s an absolute ball ache isn’t it. Not a smooth or enjoyable process which people make it out to be
Not sure why people are bothering to waste their time making suggestions… I’d guess these videos are at least 3 months behind and the bathroom is likely completely finished.
If your going to tile the floor use marine ply 9 screws per sq,foot also abacus board's instead of plasterboard is the way to go ,thats what the pro,s use.. Bombproof (if done per spec)
Will, I've brought 2 properties, both with level 3, and things went wrong with both properties. The boiler broke down within days, and the toilet was leaking as well, absolutely not worth the money!!!
So sorry for you Will what a rough start. The joys of being a home owner it never ends , welcome to the eternal D I Y club . Learn to enjoy the process it helps .
I’m enjoying it that’s for sure 😊
I'm actually cringing watching this video 😂 It'll be totally worth it in the end though cos not only will you have a beautiful new bathroom, you'll have learnt some new skills and gained more knowledge which will come in handy further down the road 🙂
100% 👊🏻👊🏻
In the States we refer to what you are going through as “the joys of home ownership”. The investment and experience will pay off in the end Will. Keep your chin up.
I heard that you should fill up the bathtub with water then seal around the edges , if you seal empty the weight of the tub when filled will open up gaps in the sealant , is this info correct ?
Circular saw to take up floorboards instead of a multitool Will 👍
Christ what happens if there’s pipes or cables in the way tho? Thankfully there wasn’t but I wanted to stay on the safe side and take it out slowly to make sure I didn’t go through any potential pipes
@WillsWhereabouts adjust the depth of the blade/cut so it only just gets through the thickness of the board. No chance of cutting through pipes or cables, however using a multi tool it's much more difficult to control the cutting depth and more likely to hit a pipe or cable
I would also remove plasterboard around pipework by the sink. Open it all up, correct anything poorly completed before covering up. Piece of mind thing really.
Also the end wall is a false wall. Remove and reframe. The internal wall should really have the pipe work removed as it is compromising the stud wall. Is this load bearing??? Easy fix to put stud next to it and nail old one to it. Then run pipe work in cavity between that wall and new false wall you put back in.