IK Multimedia TONEX Pedal | Game Changer or Gimmick? Amp Profiling
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Welcome, fellow music enthusiasts! In today's video, I dive deep into the world of guitar effects with the @ikmultimedia TONEX Pedal. The burning question on everyone's mind - is it a game-changer or just another gimmick?
Join me on this sonic exploration as I put the TONEX Pedal to the test, dissecting its features, unleashing its tones, and scrutinizing its impact on my playing. As a guitarist always on the lookout for that next breakthrough in sound, I couldn't resist putting this pedal through its paces.
Throughout the video, I share my honest impressions, showcasing both the highs and potential pitfalls. Is the TONEX Pedal a revolutionary addition to your rig, unlocking unexplored sonic territories? Or is it a mere gimmick that falls short of expectations?
Whether you're a seasoned guitarist or just starting, this review is your guide to making an informed decision on whether the IK Multimedia TONEX Pedal is the missing piece to elevate your music or just another flashy distraction.
Hit play and let's find out together if the TONEX Pedal is truly a game-changer or simply a gimmick in disguise.
Don't forget to share your thoughts in the comments - I'm eager to hear your experiences and opinions on this intriguing piece of gear!
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0:00 Intro Track
0:19 TONEX Pedal Intro
1:29 Mana Iwanaga Wrote The Music
2:02 What Is TONEX???
2:47 Why I Got Interested!
4:11 Tone Capture Process Briefly
7:27 How Does It Sound???!!!
8:14 What I Like About TONEX
13:25 Amp Profile Comparison Clips
15:17 How TONEX Reacts To Guitar Volume
19:23 My Gripes With TONEX!
25:41 The Competition
27:08 Final Thoughts
28:54 TONEX Pedal In Full Mix
33:59 TONEX Pedal Isolated Tones
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BTW, you have a very pleasant presence and demeanor on the screen, makes watching nice, specially on a longer video.
Thanks. That’s really kind of you and much appreciated 🙏🏽 Have an awesome day!
I just got one for Christmas, and so far loving it!
Always Awesome sounds and content!!!
Thanks man! Very much appreciated! Have an awesome day!
Jay! I have had my eye on one of these for some time now... Great video! Your information is truly helpful. I hope IK makes a big brother version of this pedal with additional features. Thank you!
Ah very cool! Glad the video was of help 😊 It is a fantastic unit. I'm glad I bought it! Have an awesome day!
Fantastic video..I just ordered one of these last night and I'm very excited about it..can't believe the price point
Very cool! Enjoy the unit when you get it. I am loving mine! Have an awesome day!
Interesting video, and cool track. Just starting with the pedal myself now, so really good to get a vibe on how you can maximise its potential. I’m just playing around with some of the stuff on ToneNet at the moment - bit of a mixed bag, but there are some good profiles out there. Thanks again
Glad you enjoyed it. You're right about tone.net being nixed. I have had the same experience. Its one of the reasons I wanted to capture my own profiles. Have an awesome day!
Two very talented and technical guitar players + great tones
I dig your new ink, Jay! I really like how that is laid out on your arm.
Ah thanks man! I really really appreciate it! 😊 🤘 I totally love it. I have my next tattoo happening in Feb! Have an awesome day!
I’ve only jammed around on it at a guitar shop, but I think this sounds really good. Even compared to larger modeling amps, I feel like this has great tones.
Jay, you are my brother,. Seriously I haven’t realized how long I’ve been inspired by you. I’ve gone through phases where you have brought me back to guitar. I have to thank you for that. I am watching your video. With Demetrio now. wanted to say thank you . That is an awesome tattoo. By the way it’s beautiful. You and I were born the same year in the same month I am 50 years old I was born in 1973 August 6. And I like what you said about tattoos because from my chest to both of my arms are completely covered of tattoos that I’m proud of . Be careful it is true. They are just like guitars and great riffs. They are addicting. Thank you for making Patreon free, I had to cancel a lot of things to budget my budget basically. Thank you for that what inspiration that you’ve given me but what a sw Thank you thank you for inspiring me and keeping, the guitar blood flowing. I didn’t cancel the Patreon because I didn’t want to. I’m so blessed that you even give us free Patreon I just have to watch my expenses these days you know. I’m going to do a cover for you I’m gonna do covers of your song And send them to you. Just pure appreciation. Thank you, Jay.
Always a pleasure dude 😊 🙏 Thanks about the tattoo as well! I have wanted that for a while! Already have my next two tatttoos booked in! 🤘 I appreciate your very kind words man, truly! Have an awesome day.
Sounds great!
Great Vid!! I'm eager to try your tonex models, do they include IR?
Hey dude, thanks! Yes my tone models have the cab tones baked into them. Enjoy! Have an awesome day.
Killer Jam!!
Thanks! Have an awesome day.
Your major grip @23:14 about the profile not being accurate to the amp, when you turn up the gain on the unit, is part and parcel with the profiler/capture tech in general. They are snapshots of the signal chain. Kemper has the same problem. Both units TRY to extrapolate what turning up the gain will be like, but they will never be right. You have to have 2 presets, one with the amp dialed down, and one when you turn the gain up, and switch between them. OR, get a profile with higher gain, and use guitar volume.
Hey dude, yeah that’s what I have come to understand and thank you for the info btw. I do appreciate it. This is my first full on experience with a modeller and it’s been fantastic overall. It makes sense that it is just a snapshot. Hopefully in the future they can design a capture process where they can capture the behaviour as well - such as a set of sounds with gain at 1, the pin a second set with gain at 5, then gain at 10 and then amalgamate them into a single profile. I might email IK about that 🤔 Have an awesome day!
@@jayguitar Kemper added Liquid Profiling last year to their profilers. They still capture as they did, a snapshot, but they marry it with a modeled EQ stack from a real amp you select (3o some amps EQ stacks I believe). It's better, but still not 100% there. May never be. Could also do better, by having the user run the profile or capture process at various sweeps of each knob. But, then the process would take a LONG time.
Pretty cool 🤘🏻🤘🏻
That JP 69 sounds incredible good!!
Thanks man! I appreciate it 😊 Glad you're enjoying it. Have an awesome day!
First, point out that the song is beautiful. It seems like a good tool to have a good library of sounds and amps. Of course, apart from those that you can record thanks to its software, it seems practical!!!!....In any case, the feeling of standing in front of a tube amp is so addictive that it will always be missed and I won't change it. for nothing. But I repeat, to work at home and have everything compact it will be fine
I enjoyed your video, how's the amp in the roon sound and feek?
It sounds fantastic in the room. Like I was saying on the video, it sounds and feels like I'm plugged into my actual amps. Have an awesome day!
I recently picked this up and the lTonex Max software it comes with it’s amazing but not just that , it seamlessly runs amplitube 5 max V2, Which happens to be on sale right now for NAMM. $99 bucks as compared to to like 400 normally. I’m set for a while, but this Tonex Pedal is a pain in the arse to get figured out. Then again I’m stubborn and always leave the manual till the last minute. This is not only a “modelling capture Pedal” but it’s also a full-fledged audio interface. And standalone unit.
Very cool you picked up a great deal on the software! Enjoy dude! Its a lot of fun to play! 😊 🤘 Have an awesome day!
I'm incorporating a ToneX into my Boss GT-1000 ASAP.
Very cool! Good idea to do that. Have an awesome day!
I think the reverb is stereo so outputs, stereo? Hopefully they will update so we can add effects from the software into the unit as needed. That would put it over the top!
Yes, but you can use it also mono, you can capture your effects with ampsignal
Ah that would make sense 😊 Thanks! Btw, the only effects that can be captured are overdrive pedals. As far as I know the system doesn't capture delay and reverb, etc. Have an awesome day!
@@jayguitar Yes but it captures amps/cabs so why not be able to import captured drive pedals into the tonex chain per preset? I think they missed that one and hopefully update that sooner rather than later.
@@r.llynch4124 Thats a good point and a function I would love on there too. At the moment I am doing captures of pedal/amp/cab IR together. Being able to add the drive pedal capture into the chain would be a bonus - even if it is just in the TONEX software.
Can you plug the tonex directly into an Amp input?
I have had mine now for about 3 days and I have experienced a delay in switching when hooked into a live rig when I have my pedals running with it. Its about 1 second delay between channel to channel.
Wow! Thats a big delay - I haven't experienced any switching delays on mine. Maybe contact IK about it as the unit might now to working correctly. Have an awesome day!
I cant afford a Mesa Boogie Amp, but i can afford Tonex/Amplitube. Its damned close.
I have tried Neural DSP, Atomic, Headrush, Spark Amp, nembrini, and some Helix tones in the Catalyst. My Tonex sounds much better to my ear than anything else I have tried and takes no fiddling. Totally a game changes for me when I can't crank my tube amp.
What’s your settings ? Can’t make mine sound any good
Agreed dude! I have listened to so many comparison videos and keep coming back to TONEX. I have to say though, the Nembrini MP1 plugin sounds incredibly close to my real A/DA MP1. They knocked it out of the park with that plugin! Have an awesome day!
@alanxalves you can head over to tone.net and find my captures there (@JayGuitar). They might be a good starting point to dial in your tones. Have an awesome day!
@@alanxalves Hi Alan, have you had any better luck? I'm curious whether you are using the headphone out. That has been the best way for me. I think the biggest problem is turning the input too high. I use the IK interface and set the input at around 9 o'clock. I set the input in the app at 0DB.
@jayguitar Video request:
Game changing musicians vs. Game changing gear
List out 10 in each category. Then, identify what gamechanger gear informed the work of the 10 musicians AND, whether the gear's influence has been greater than the musicians'.
From that exercise, are there any lessons to be learned that might save people some money?
Cheers.
Thats a really interesting idea! Thanks for sharing and let me think on that as it could be pretty interesting to do 🤔 Have an awesome day.
we question the loop because maybe in a studio recording dry and mixing effects in later is fine but in a live situation it just doesn't work the same. An effects loop would've made the pedal complete....huge miss if you ask me
Hey dude, I understand your point but I do disagree with it. The point I made in the video was that for live use effects can be put after the Tonex anyway and this would work whether you’re using it with the IR off - so amp, effects, then poweramp and cab - or if you use with the IR on, in which case you have the effects post amp and cab like you would in a studio, and then going to a PA or FRFR speaker. The effects would be even more clear that way because it would be like setting up your live rig like a studio rig. Either way, the effects work just as effectively (no pun intended) and I think this is a point that a lot of people are missing. There is no need for a loop in a unit like this - just go from the output to the delay, reverb and modulation effects and it sounds fantastic. Have a great day.
I like how it sounds, like chewy pick attack is happenin’.
im seeing these for $320 over the holidays, kind of seems like a no brainer for what it is.
The problem I had with these was using it with a power amp and real cabs. Just didn't sound good anyway I tried. Yes I turned off the cabs. I emailed for support. Haven't heard anything. Saying this, my other modelers and even the Kemper sounded great using a power amp and cabs. I wondering what I am doing wrong.
Don't use the amps that had cabs on. Find profiles that are AMP ONLY. If you use the amps with cabs and turn off the cabs, the sound you get is a simulation from tonex of what it thinks that the amps sound without the cab
@@afonsomartins5306 should be able to use IR'S with cab off and be perfectly fine?
@@afonsomartins5306 I had the cabs off.
@@r.llynch4124 not all, because the captures that are AMP+CAB doesnt split. Even thought Tonex alwats you to turn off the CAB within that capture, its not the correct sound, only a simulation from Tonex of what the AMP ONLY sound might be with the CAB OFF. if you want to use your own IR´s in Tonex, use caputres that are real "AMP ONLY", which provide the real sound from the amp without any CAB.
Thats really interesting and truth be told, its not something I had thought about. Question - how did you have it hooked up live? Just curious. I know that Kempers have suffered from that as well. I have seen a few bands live using Kempers and the sound is always very very flat. Anyways, thanks for bringing the point up - its something that I'm curious to experiment with now. Have an awesome day!
So it doesn't matter that it has no FX loop? Well then how do you use Preamp pedals, real preamp pedals that are meant to go into the FX loop not the front of the amp to avoid a preamp into a preamp which alot of times sounds like garbage. That is why genuine pre amp pedals go into the FX loop? 2nd it has a headphones out, Hmm cant hear any of my effects without an FX loop. There are other ways to use your headphones and effects but the quickest and easiest way is to provide an effects loop. I dont want to have to purchase or hook up other gear just to use headphones with my effects that defeats the purpose. So Yes it matters very much that it does not have an FX loop. I guarantee their next version has an FX loop otherwise I will never own one.
Hey dude,
Personally to me it makes no difference if it has an FX loop because of my workflow and what I use it for. Besides, I must admit I don’t quite understand where you’re going with your point about preamp pedals. The TONEX is designed to do the same thing, i.e. emulate amps, so by design it is meant to be used with profiles rather than being a platform for preamps and preamp pedals. The profiles are of full amps - pre and power amps - not just power amps so preamps and those types of pedals might not be suitable for use with TONEX anyhow. Perhaps another unit would suit your needs better? Maybe just a power amp to plug the preamp pedals into - something like the Hotone Loudster? Anyways, have a great day.
being playing with the pedal and settings for a couple of months now, After comparing it side by side with the Palladium pedal, the tonex sounds like a blanket is covering the CAB, I tried over 100 captures and even purchase a pack. I wanted to use it for live show and to keep my setup basic, but definitely its not for me. I guess if it goes thru monitors and FRFR speakers will perform fine, but on real CABs dont sound good. and yes I disabled the CABs and use anly amp DIs on the pedal.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience with it. I haven't tried it through a power amp and cab yet but am curious to now that you've mentioned it. Really appreciate it. Have an awesome day!
NEITHER.... "tool"
That question was asked when TONEX was new on the market.And answer is no.Profiling is the best at the moment.But all sounds are Amlitube 5 quality.Unles you profile yourself.For that you need to have amps.Or friends with amps.Or play '' constant download game ''.But first you need to pay for it to be able to have it.Worth it?This man has amps?Do you have amps?No?So you are sentenced for Amlitube 5 quality people.
not true. a quality profile of someone's amp is STILL a quality profile of that profiled amp at that profiled setting, period!
True.What means that to have this quality you need to be able to profile or download profile.But what is in already will have lower quality than your own profile or downloaded one.And that itself is 400 dolars.This is Amplitube 5 quality.Lower than Cortex.Downloading and profiling is only one good option with this device.@@r.llynch4124
Its a good point you raise. As far as I know, the profiles in the TONEX software are amp profiles rather then Amplitube presets or tones, so they will be better then Amplitube anyhow. The stock tones sounded pretty good to my ears when I checked them out. Also Tone.Net is now HUGE and there are some great profiles on there. I take your point though about not having amps to profile. I have a large amp collection so it makes sense for me 🙏 Have an awesome day!
Hey @tomix1970pl1,
I wanted to clarify, your comment wasn’t deleted - your comment was replied to. As it’s my channel others cannot delete comments. If the other guys decided not to reply to your message that’s just a choice he made.
Second, please don’t refer to people as ‘little man’ here because it’s comes across as very rude - and to be frank, if that happens then I will be the one deleting the comment because I’m the administrator of this channel and although I encourage healthy discussion, I won’t allow rudeness and abuse, even if it’s minor.
Thank you for clarifying what the press release from IK Multimedia had said. I did not know that and I appreciate you letting me know. I personally don’t think it is an issue now, a year later, because the number of good profiles on tone net. But if it doesn’t work for you and you don’t want to download I understand that and then that’s fair enough. I don’t download profiles myself because I want my to play my amp tones only.
Have a great day.