Could RONNIE COLEMAN have WON WORLD'S STRONGEST MAN?

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    00:00 Introduction
    03:04 DEADLIFT Comparison
    03:20 SQUAT Comparison
    03:39 BENCH PRESS Comparison
    06:45 Event By Event Comparison
    15:58 My HONEST Opinion
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  • @RonnieColeman8
    @RonnieColeman8 Місяць тому +735

    I think I would have had that 2005 Strongman title too...Yeah Buddy

  • @user-tc2po1gg6y
    @user-tc2po1gg6y Місяць тому +325

    Worth considering, the 800 lbs squat double was 4 weeks out from Mr Olympia, so he is dieted down quite a bit. Imagine what he could do after eating at a surplus for a bit and not being sub 10% bf.

    • @zarbins
      @zarbins Місяць тому +32

      He also said he thinks he could have done 5 reps and regrets stopping at 2!

    • @Zurr-En-Arrh
      @Zurr-En-Arrh Місяць тому +7

      Def not maybe like 1 more because at the second rep it was slowing down​@@zarbins

    • @tareqpol4787
      @tareqpol4787 Місяць тому +18

      @@Zurr-En-Arrhsome people are hard grinders

    • @jamessiarom
      @jamessiarom Місяць тому +13

      @@Zurr-En-Arrh but Ronnie’s muscles are conditioned for larger rep schemes for all we know he could make the first four look the same and grind on the fifth

    • @HumanGorillaHormone
      @HumanGorillaHormone Місяць тому +6

      His squats were WAYY above parallel, with a super suit on. The fact it was 4 weeks out (from an Olympianwhere he didn't have the best condition at all) doesnt mean a whole lot.
      Dallas mccarver was stronger than ronnie Coleman in Every major lift. Kai green was likely close too.
      But regardless none of them would've done well at strongman. Too short and not enough endurance. Cardiovascularly and muscularly

  • @hardchooligan
    @hardchooligan Місяць тому +361

    In body building shape? No chance. If he actually trained for it? Absolutely would be a contender. He has the frame,work ethic, and discipline. Plus training not for it he still was putting up huge numbers relatively speaking

    • @ora6925
      @ora6925 Місяць тому +16

      What frame? He‘d be shorter than the shortest top athletes today

    • @percy66
      @percy66 Місяць тому +13

      Frame? He's way too short

    • @Vipinnnn17
      @Vipinnnn17 Місяць тому +3

      He wouldn't have been close, he may be better Statically but those times Static strength wasn't given a shit

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Місяць тому +28

      @@ora6925 Frame and height are different... I know words are hard

    • @jasonito23
      @jasonito23 Місяць тому +21

      @@Vipinnnn17 Ronnie was a starting football player in a D1 division university. Athletically, he is better than the WSM competitors.

  • @barbarianstrong8687
    @barbarianstrong8687 Місяць тому +70

    One of the craziest things about Mariusz was his ability to improve his weaknesses. He would do bad at an event one year, then come back next year and score near the top. There are even stories from strongmen who competed with him that they would see him practicing with an implement when they went to lunch, and see him still practicing with it when they came back.

    • @thewitcher1990
      @thewitcher1990 Місяць тому +5

      True. WSM 2005 Mariusz has almost lost the title because of fingal fingers. WSM 2006 he lost because of fingals. WSM 2007 he would beat world record in fingals but before him Wenta did it.
      Frame at Arnolds 2003 or 2004. He didnt manage to walk with it. Next year he was one of two athlets who finished the event. Such a machine.

    • @simenandersen3262
      @simenandersen3262 Місяць тому +3

      @@thewitcher1990 Yeah! Phil Pfister also talked about how intense he was during competition. It was one event where they were gonna carry a rock/shield for distance. And when they practiced/warmed up with it. Mariusz couldn't handle it at all. But when it was game-time he just picked it up and ran with it like it was nothing.

    • @brianholland5447
      @brianholland5447 27 днів тому

      Could Mariusz have been a top Olympia competitor? I think that's a possibility. I think the thing you really have to respect his ability to go into MMA well after his prime where he knew he wouldn't have the same level of success as he did in strongman.

  • @barryadcock7332
    @barryadcock7332 Місяць тому +92

    Think Larry Wheels, Larry is super strong in the gym, but has never managed to even get to a world class strongman contest without getting injured.

    • @danh7447
      @danh7447 Місяць тому +1

      Well said !

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 Місяць тому +6

      Larry is very prone to injury, but no ones more prone than Ronnie which surprising. It's very very hard to hurt yourself as bad as him. It's pretty clear that the surgeons made many mistakes, or it never would have gotten as bad as it was. I know he's talked about the surgeons messing up a few times. He also worked out for years with multiped herniated disc and in extreme pain all over his body, yet he tried to force his weigh to continue lifting heavy, so Ronnie was stubborn too. Eventually he had to see a doctor because he couldn't walk even back then at certain points. Either way, injuries happen or can happen when you train that heavy, but you should still be able to make to competition day.

    • @SageBoden
      @SageBoden Місяць тому +7

      Ronnie was never injured while competing all his injuries are later in life through his training and repetition

    • @BeamRider100
      @BeamRider100 Місяць тому

      It can happen but we can't know what he could have done without getting the bicep tear. Getting a tear would have been horrific for him, as any athlete, so he backed away from it at that moment.

    • @Thepoltergiest101
      @Thepoltergiest101 Місяць тому

      @@SageBoden He herniated his disc before he even won his first Olympia. He just trained through it and visited the chiropractor. He then tore his lat in 2006 which is one of reasons why he lost his title.

  • @purestilton
    @purestilton Місяць тому +41

    I’m sure with focused training he could have been a very competitive strongman, but him beating Marius at WSM is a leap of faith I cannot make

  • @88bjjmichael
    @88bjjmichael Місяць тому +19

    Ronnie and Mariusz were my heroes growing up. But Mitchell is forgetting that Ronnie's reps wouldn't have counted. Yes, he had good numbers, but he didn't do full reps on them.

  • @BourbonondaBayou
    @BourbonondaBayou Місяць тому +115

    FYI, Ronnie played 4years as cornerback in college at Grambling State. He is very athletic.

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen Місяць тому +1

      Mike Jenkins Played Football At University And Guess What? He Was 400 lbs Not 200 lbs Skinny Weak Guy

    • @dantethunderstone2118
      @dantethunderstone2118 Місяць тому +7

      @@DavidVirtanen he played guard, not corner
      Cornerback is the most athletic position in all major sports

    • @JM-lf1sl
      @JM-lf1sl Місяць тому +1

      @@dantethunderstone2118 Yeah, giant Ronnie would in no way be able to play CB. Typically dudes that weigh like 180 and are fast AF play CB.

    • @dantethunderstone2118
      @dantethunderstone2118 Місяць тому +1

      @@JM-lf1sl obviously not but if you can play the most athletic position then you’ll still be more athletic than the average 330 lbs man
      Mike Jenkins was also still pretty athletic at 400lbs, he would regularly win or place high in loading races, farmers and other moving events

    • @jamaanders1817
      @jamaanders1817 Місяць тому

      That was going to be my comment

  • @larrytate1657
    @larrytate1657 Місяць тому +9

    Another factor to consider is sometimes Marius would be so far ahead that he wouldn’t mill himself in an event and he’d stop with a few reps in reserve. If someone like Ronnie was more on his heels his numbers would’ve prob been even a lil better.

  • @Kamyen316
    @Kamyen316 Місяць тому +11

    Yea...the dominator Pudz was the dominator for a reason. Not only incredible physical shape. He was a mad man in the competitions. High win % overall and weighed in prime around 320-330 which was insane at that time. Ronnie still coudlve been a good strongman. But he would have to completely change his way of lifting.

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 Місяць тому

      Yeah, Ronnie lifted heavy and did a little bit of powerlifting, but he didn't really care about strongman or that stuff. He was lifting heavy strictly to build muscle, that was the only reason, and to show off honestly. The one rep maxes were to show off in my opinion.

    • @martinnilsson5295
      @martinnilsson5295 Місяць тому +1

      He did nothing at heavier shows like the Arnolds

  • @Jack000222
    @Jack000222 Місяць тому +9

    Nope, Ronnie’s ligaments would have exploded. ISO vs functional strength Mitch. You know this.

  • @MouserStrength
    @MouserStrength Місяць тому +6

    I love these types of fun videos Mitch. I would agree with the masses here and say you were very kind to Ronnie here; we've seen bodybuilders compete before, and they typically need quite a bit of time to be able to deal with odd objects and moving events ie. tire flips, carries, fingers, and stones.

  • @daviesugo7641
    @daviesugo7641 Місяць тому +354

    You were extremely extremely generous to Ronnie here😂😂

    • @Heidinn217
      @Heidinn217 Місяць тому +31

      Yeah I don’t think he’d be close to a podium finish any year

    • @flow1188
      @flow1188 Місяць тому +45

      @@Heidinn217 good that we have ppl who can tell us theire expert view

    • @alex23011
      @alex23011 Місяць тому +10

      @@flow1188 lmao ikr

    • @Jwt1983
      @Jwt1983 Місяць тому +7

      He was more than generous!! 😂😂

    • @jimmydelauder1427
      @jimmydelauder1427 Місяць тому +9

      His back injuries might have been too much for strongman.

  • @jtf2dan
    @jtf2dan Місяць тому +135

    BUT!!!!!....could marius have won the Mr. Olympia?

    • @idk13539
      @idk13539 Місяць тому +22

      Yes

    • @bouncecentral230
      @bouncecentral230 Місяць тому +9

      Yes, 100 %

    • @keeslissenberg2781
      @keeslissenberg2781 Місяць тому +1

      Could Mariusz have won a 6th WSM?

    • @LiamBens
      @LiamBens Місяць тому +29

      Not at olympia level in my humble opinion he was a absolute freak but he does not have some of the proportion of the absolute best in that field

    • @seanmcnicholl3276
      @seanmcnicholl3276 Місяць тому +1

      @@idk13539doubt it cause Jay cutler and Ronnie Coleman were at neck and neck

  • @K3R0wNiK
    @K3R0wNiK Місяць тому +58

    Pudzianowski was a BEAST, with all the respect but no chance for Ronnie on WSM stage.

    • @percy66
      @percy66 Місяць тому +1

      Do not respect a glorified cheater roid user

    • @K3R0wNiK
      @K3R0wNiK Місяць тому +18

      Steroids and anabolics in the world of strongmen? Who would have thought xD

    • @percy66
      @percy66 Місяць тому +11

      @K3R0wNiK everyone in strongman are natural and vegan everyone knows that

    • @RageDaug
      @RageDaug Місяць тому +4

      @@percy66 which one? Ronnie or Mariusz?

    • @samnixon99
      @samnixon99 Місяць тому

      @@RageDaug both

  • @dylancole2946
    @dylancole2946 Місяць тому +26

    If you say, “yah buddy” in the mirror four times, Ronnie will appear!

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen Місяць тому +2

      How About Yeah Mate? 😏🇬🇧

    • @espenstoro
      @espenstoro Місяць тому

      @@DavidVirtanen Ja Freund! No wait, that summons Markus Rühl.

    • @danh7447
      @danh7447 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

    • @AbsoRuud76
      @AbsoRuud76 Місяць тому +2

      I tried it. But he didn't appear. :(

    • @mr.cooper2031
      @mr.cooper2031 Місяць тому

      @AbsoRuud76 that's because I did it right before you and he appeared at my gym to make me lift "light weight."

  • @hairyape_8103
    @hairyape_8103 Місяць тому +6

    I think Ronnie would have trouble stabilizing something like a heavy log or awkward object. His waist was so thin. A hypothetical heavy yoke would be very tough for him too imo.

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 Місяць тому +2

      If he was competing he would do things differently. You're thinking of Ronnie weeks out from a show again.

  • @hansnordby6932
    @hansnordby6932 Місяць тому +2

    These comparison videos are fun!

  • @joshuahobbs1686
    @joshuahobbs1686 Місяць тому +1

    I love these types of videos you do 💪🏻

  • @Bjorn_R
    @Bjorn_R Місяць тому +23

    3:07 I beg your pardon. Thats 800 SOLID ASS POUNDS to you sir 😂

  • @markmcbride5900
    @markmcbride5900 Місяць тому +1

    Great video! This is quality content!

  • @jorgevillarreal502
    @jorgevillarreal502 Місяць тому +5

    bro stepping on toes with this one for sure. Ronnie a fantastic athlete but Mariusz fans won't let this slide. Very generous to Ronnie too with some of the events considering "offseason ronnie" and not "hypothetical trained strongman ronnie"

  • @StrengthShowcase
    @StrengthShowcase Місяць тому +24

    Hey, two inches is a big deal (some would even say too big a deal)!

    • @espenstoro
      @espenstoro Місяць тому

      As a man, I know what you mean.

    • @ChriSX13
      @ChriSX13 Місяць тому

      i wish i had 2 more inches (both ways)

    • @railasvuo
      @railasvuo Місяць тому

      Huge deal

    • @Drplaguescp049
      @Drplaguescp049 Місяць тому

      That's huge 😂

  • @notimportant6506
    @notimportant6506 Місяць тому +1

    Pretty cool video. Both of them would have done amazing in both Strongman and Bodybuilding!

  • @torringtonstonekeeper
    @torringtonstonekeeper Місяць тому +7

    Cop training running etc. Is a joke. Marius would destroy ronnie. Be serious

  • @devantewillis2169
    @devantewillis2169 Місяць тому

    I like the content on this channel it's about all aspects of strength, bodybuilding, PED's, powerlifting, strongman all analytical approach in every video I respect the work put into it it's not all about Michael hooper even tho it's his channel very respectable 🙏 you earned my follow from a fellow bodybuilder

  • @philippecourtemanche7190
    @philippecourtemanche7190 Місяць тому

    Pretty cool video, took courage!

  • @user-xj4is1rg2z
    @user-xj4is1rg2z Місяць тому

    I look up to u every day Mr hooper, thank you for inspiring me

  • @robertpka7228
    @robertpka7228 Місяць тому

    These are a lot of fun!

  • @MA-ik7ys
    @MA-ik7ys Місяць тому

    i just love that there is never any hate in mitchells break downs. Its just not the angle hes coming from. I want to troll as I usually do but i wont lol cause im awesome

  • @samarthur1847
    @samarthur1847 Місяць тому +2

    I remember back in 1995, a body builder called Curtis Lefler (rip😢) competed in WSM. He was in contest shape, looked great but didn’t do that well. Worth a watch. MP was great but wasn’t there a schism in the sport during his heyday? Great video btw 😊

  • @The_Rabid_Ferret
    @The_Rabid_Ferret Місяць тому

    I feel like that was a great comparison and accurate as well. 🤙

  • @LukeFaulkner
    @LukeFaulkner Місяць тому +7

    They're both legends in their own disciplines, but I can't see either winning in the other's.

  • @SONofAchuckNorris
    @SONofAchuckNorris Місяць тому

    i absolutely love your shirt ! "don't be a can't" !!!!

  • @hedgehog1965uk
    @hedgehog1965uk Місяць тому +4

    I look forward to Ronnie's reaction to this video ("Yeahhhh buddy!").

  • @Eparker09
    @Eparker09 Місяць тому +1

    I enjoy this kind of speculation. It reminds me of those barber shoppe scenes in the movies.

  • @jamesdjl4359
    @jamesdjl4359 Місяць тому

    I absolutely love these speculative videos. They're so much fun. I say that as a super Fan of both Big Ron and Mariusz. I was a bodybuilding fan first. It's entirely because of Mariusz that i became a strong man fan. He had the best of both world's as far as my teenage mind could reason. Thanks for all the interesting content Mitch.
    P.s. I'm happy to see big Ron in the comments, YEAH BUDDY - LIGHT WEIGHT.

  • @jonnylieberman
    @jonnylieberman Місяць тому +87

    Old guy here, and old strongman fan. Pudzianowski is the most impressive strongman I've ever watched. Sure, you can discount loading and carrying events and say that Shaw or Z are the greatest ever, but dynamic events have always been part of Strongman. Pudz had an extra gear he could turn on and just dominate any competition. It was just insane to watch. Also, 50 wins? in 69 Competitions? Best all time, and by a lot. A little birdie told me that Pudz was a dickhead and hated by the other competitors, and that's why his accomplishments tend to get downplayed these days. But a 72% WINNING percentage? Come on. Ronnie would have had no chance, as bodybuilders can't move like strongmen.

    • @keeslissenberg2781
      @keeslissenberg2781 Місяць тому +3

      Rumour has it that Mr.P stood up to stronger people and went away for a bit. Much recommended if so.

    • @Ezratal
      @Ezratal Місяць тому +2

      @@keeslissenberg2781What?

    • @oglocbaby520
      @oglocbaby520 Місяць тому +1

      He was an insanely explosive athlete for sure and phenomenal at any of the movement based events, like you mentioned. He also was very strong with any of the static events that were done for reps. When he was competing, strongman was mostly based around more these athletic type events, which was why he was so successful. However, he definitely seemed behind many of his peers later on in his career when it came down to very heavy or one rep max type stuff. It seemed like strongman deviated more towards this after he retired from the sport. The sport has also evolved by quite a lot since his reign and there is a much greater variety of talent compared to when he competed. I think he would be a top contender if he were to compete today, but I don't think he'd have been as dominant.

    • @keeslissenberg2781
      @keeslissenberg2781 Місяць тому +9

      @@Ezratal If the stories about P are true, he stood up to maffia and spend time against his will after that.

    • @TheBiggest2004
      @TheBiggest2004 Місяць тому +6

      Funnily enough my father actually met him at the Arnold in like the Early 2000’s apparently he was really nice, just looks scary lol.

  • @Ezratal
    @Ezratal Місяць тому +7

    Mariusz get such short schrift. It's absurd. Then when people actually look at his record objectively they're like 'holy shit he won 50/69 international comps?' Just insanely successful. They think 'Big Z (who is incredible, no doubt) would've won more if there was no split, he's the greatest'--Pure conjecture. And in reality, when they actually did face each other in comps, The Dominator usually won. It's so crazy to me that people say he actually wasn't very good and just benefited from the split. Really? Fuckin' really, dude? Has anyone *ever* had a better W-L record while having dozens of big comps they'd competed in?

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen Місяць тому +3

      Well Said Champ Polska Gurom 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

    • @Ptownmarc
      @Ptownmarc Місяць тому +1

      Mariusz is the greatest strongman of all time. When he did his first WSM he blew everyone out of the water and just got better and stronger.
      Compared to bodybuilding the career at the peak is less but the dominator was to fast, too strong and just a mental animal.

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen Місяць тому +1

      @@Ptownmarc Big Z Is The Greatest And The Strongest Strongman Of All Time But Yeah Mariusz Is Insane As Well In My Opinion He's The 3rd Greatest Strongman Of All 🇵🇱❤️💪🏻

  • @Vipinnnn17
    @Vipinnnn17 Місяць тому +81

    Mitch was definitely too kind here, there's no way Ronnie was doing this good.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify Місяць тому +5

      Agree. I could agree a bit more with Mitch if he had taken more caveats. He said moderate training for strongman and still in shape for Bodybuilding. If he had assumed more extensive training for Strongman and being able to go to AT LEAST 20-25% bodyfat percentage, then sure, give it a chance in one of the years.
      But in bodybuilding shape it would be unfathomable.

    • @Vipinnnn17
      @Vipinnnn17 Місяць тому +2

      @@prgnify i believe he could have done amazing with training but with the numbers we've there's no way he was doing this good at such events

    • @TzeentchLordofChange
      @TzeentchLordofChange Місяць тому +2

      I agree wholeheartedly, I came from powerlifting to strongman and lost many events to guys i was much stronger than just because strongman implements are weird and awkward, if you havent trained with them you probably arent doing too well

    • @budadi
      @budadi Місяць тому

      So yall compete and have won wsm? Hm lets see, Mitch or some randoms in the comments.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify Місяць тому

      @@budadi Mitch is talented.
      I don't want to minimise his effort, work ethic, etc - he does put in the work on top of his talent.
      But to your point, the fact that he has done so well in strongman with so little preparation is exactly what makes him "worse than random commenters" in evaluating it. For him it was easy, so he has a lopsided view of how much skill can be a differentiating factor or how difficult some of the movements can be - because for him they were easy.

  • @salownsu123
    @salownsu123 Місяць тому +2

    I fucking love this video. Marius and Ronnie are 2 huge idols of mine. I really wish we could get Mariusz on a podcast at some point.

  • @andyanderson5637
    @andyanderson5637 Місяць тому +1

    When super Mario started WSM comp his weight was 275 lb and was killing it.he gained weight later in WSM career.

  • @imccrae1
    @imccrae1 Місяць тому +9

    Having seen bodybuilders attempt Strongman events, it's hard to believe, as strong as he was, that Ronnie would be competitive. The physical test for American cops isn't that rigorous 😄 So I can't really see him doing that well at a high level Strongman contest. Would've been cool to see though.

    • @Royalman39
      @Royalman39 25 днів тому

      He squatted 800 4 weeks out of a show which means he's at least less then 10 percent body fat he definitely has the genetics to win

    • @kallebaah0
      @kallebaah0 22 дні тому

      ​@@Royalman39No he didnt. It was off season with wraps and suit. Still impressive though ofc

  • @ScottRandall31
    @ScottRandall31 Місяць тому

    Cool vid

  • @ezradanger
    @ezradanger Місяць тому +2

    That's actually pretty insane. I went into this video thinking that he could be the contender if he trained for it, but would stand no chance in bodybuilding condition, but you made a pretty strong case that he could have.

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  Місяць тому +1

      Objectively he’s not as far off as you’d think. Too many unknowns, but would be amazing to find out

  • @pacman-zc8zo
    @pacman-zc8zo Місяць тому

    Starting poll to invite Ronnie on the channel.💪

  • @geraldf9651
    @geraldf9651 Місяць тому

    7:28 I used to love those days of strongman there marious was a beast!!!

  • @aaronbarlow4376
    @aaronbarlow4376 Місяць тому

    On your t shirt under "Don't be a can't" you should have a picture of Billy Butcher from 'The boys'

  • @CoryFalde175
    @CoryFalde175 Місяць тому +1

    As someone who stood on top of a step ladder and watched Mitch win World's Strongest Man, I confirm that Ronnie Coleman and Mariusz Pudzianowski were both very strong

  • @michaelmullins1290
    @michaelmullins1290 Місяць тому

    It definitely would've been interesting to watch. Also would've if Shaw had been in a couple more with Marius.

  • @dm45867
    @dm45867 Місяць тому +5

    Pudzianowski may not have been great at the Final Finger's but he eventually improved and nearly won the event in 07. A 15 second improvement from the year before. I doubt just about anyone under 6ft tall, as Ronnie was, could have done better. It was also difficult to beat Mariuz in deadlift for reps or anything for reps. It could appear to be a weight that was at close to his maximum but still somehow manage many reps. I've never seen a competitor appear to dig down as deep as him.

  • @greg1288
    @greg1288 Місяць тому +1

    With all due respect to King Coleman and his monumental achievements in bodybuilding…I don’t think he would even be close to Mariuz in any of his 5 wins

  • @mistycrom
    @mistycrom Місяць тому +1

    Fantastic video. And gods, Marius' ability to move awkward heavy things was insane - at the risk of being obvious given 5x WSM.
    Makes me wonder how you'd think a/ Lou Ferrigno would have done at the original WSM had he been able to compete in all events (As best as I know, he was basically competing around filming for the Incredible Hulk - so let's imagine the producers gave him the week off to try and win)? He finished 4th as it was (and I've long felt he was a little cheated on the first event, having lifts discounted that were better than lifts given to others). But also, b/ How would Arnold have been able to do? Since, from what I've read/heard, he was invited before Ferrigno, but he was too close either after or before a bodybuilding comp and didn't feel he'd be competitive in the time-frame before the competition.
    Potentially also, how would either have done in the following handful of years potentially?

  • @MellonVegan
    @MellonVegan Місяць тому +1

    I mean if his grip really was competitive and since he likely would have been good at rep events, I might agree with those but sometimes it can take a long time and require a lot of specific strength to get the moving events up to speed (literally). And things like yoke and stones feel like sth you just have to train for.
    That said, I could absolutely see him having been a contender if someone had offered him that free gym membership for competing in strongman instead of bodybuilding.

  • @zachman595
    @zachman595 Місяць тому

    He’s definitely got a shot especially with some decent training. Would have been amazing to see what he was truly capable of strength wise

  • @Raphaelllll-gr3dj
    @Raphaelllll-gr3dj 26 днів тому

    Could you do this type of video but for Lee Priest?

  • @idk13539
    @idk13539 Місяць тому +25

    Im sorry but he wouldn't even make the final

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen Місяць тому +2

      Ikr Not Even Close bodybuilders Are All Show And No Go 😂😂😂

    • @scootaymildo1070
      @scootaymildo1070 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@DavidVirtanen with most bodybuilders I'd tend to agree but Ronnie was pretty unique in that he was putting up way higher numbers than his competition. He wouldn't have been competitive in his olympia shape but if he trained... who knows?

    • @larrytate1657
      @larrytate1657 Місяць тому +2

      Ronnie was that strong as a side effect of training 99 percent bb, if he dedicated himself to strong man who knows.

    • @Manusia.satu1
      @Manusia.satu1 25 днів тому

      ​@@DavidVirtanen Ronnie is stronger than most strongman in leg strength 😂. He legpress 2000 pounds easily
      Many strongman crying under 2000 pounds

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen 25 днів тому

      @@Manusia.satu1 Only In Your Dreams Clown 🤣🤣🤣

  • @andrewzach1921
    @andrewzach1921 Місяць тому

    Fun video

  • @doubleHLabs
    @doubleHLabs Місяць тому +3

    answer: yah, buddy

    • @kc2giw
      @kc2giw Місяць тому

      This.

  • @bammatthews9092
    @bammatthews9092 Місяць тому +2

    Static events he could have been competitive. But Mariusz would have killed him moving.

  • @AlbinThomas-tz3qe
    @AlbinThomas-tz3qe Місяць тому +41

    He's 5 10, he was a beast for a body builder and for powerlifting lifts, but applicational strength, he'd get destroyed. His cardio compared to someone like Marius is night a day. He could probably thrive in amateur strongman.

    • @jakzimny6752
      @jakzimny6752 Місяць тому +2

      And Mariusz was about 6ft 😅 He's listed at 6'1 or 6'2 but keep in mind, athletes tend to be reported as taller than they are, my friend met him and they were about the same height, 6ft tall. Like that was his main comment haha, he thought he was taller 😂
      With that being said Mariusz is a completely different level of strong, yeah Ronnie was great, and he would have been able to compete at pro level probably. But I don't think he would beat Mariusz or any of the greats.

    • @oglocbaby520
      @oglocbaby520 Місяць тому +1

      @@jakzimny6752 I used to know someone from the gym years ago that went to the Mohegan Sun strongman grand prix. Anyway, he said that Mariusz in real life was about his height, around 5'10" or so. He was listed as 6'1" for a while and then later 5'11" lol. He was definitely under 6', in the 2006 WSM he was about a head shorter than Phil Pfister, who is listed as 6'6".

    • @AlbinThomas-tz3qe
      @AlbinThomas-tz3qe Місяць тому +1

      @@oglocbaby520 a lotta dudes are lowkey delusional on height ngl. They couldn't tell a two inch difference if their life depended on it. Marisuz is def six foot at least, prolly not 6 1. Your friend is prob just not able to see a two inch difference

    • @AlbinThomas-tz3qe
      @AlbinThomas-tz3qe Місяць тому +2

      @@oglocbaby520 look at marisuz next to legit 6 2 Eddie hall, and it's an inch or two in difference

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Місяць тому

      Ronnie wasn't 5'10". He was a legit 5'11"+. Actually fairly close to 6'. I wouldn't be surprised if he and Mariusz were the same height

  • @elliottengstrand5988
    @elliottengstrand5988 Місяць тому +2

    Magnus ver would not give a single down signal to any of the reps Ronnie was shown doing here lol

  • @relevantbrother8964
    @relevantbrother8964 Місяць тому +3

    I'm not sure on the conditioning part.
    I've read that Ronnie would be out of breath walking just short distances at his peak when he weighed over 300.. There's a book by a reporter who spent a long time on tour with these pro Bodybuilders including Ronnie a this peak .Dorian explained to the author how intensely exhausting it was carrying that amount of body mass since he had experienced being around 300nas well.
    So whilst he was incredibly strong in the gym, I'm not sure how well he would have lasted such an event with such a variety of all body moves in such a short space.

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, all the steroids and insulin they take are crazy. I read something similar. He was so out of breath just walking that he could barely breathe a few times. Hard to believe he was that out of shape. I think that was 2006 when and later when he was winding down. No chance he was that bad off earlier in his career. The lifting alone would have made his cardio better than that. I mean there are 300 pound fat guys who can jog a little at times. He should not have been out of breath like that at only 300. Shows you what those drugs do.

    • @relevantbrother8964
      @relevantbrother8964 Місяць тому

      @@billj4525 I think also that all that muscle mass must take a toll. The oxygen demands hauling around such a lot of lean muscle mass on a 5'11 frame must have been exhausting .

    • @michaelzhao9851
      @michaelzhao9851 Місяць тому

      I’m curious about the book’s name.

    • @relevantbrother8964
      @relevantbrother8964 Місяць тому

      @@michaelzhao9851 i actually have the book in storage ..I'll dig it out and check the name. Can't remember the title.
      The author was a guy who had never trained with weights and wanted to learn more about Dorian post his career and why England hardly recognised him as one of their greatest sporting heroes.
      He then traces to following pro bodybuilding around the world with pros ,attending various shows hosted by Dorian ,etc.
      The book ends when he does an actual back training session with Dorian and speaks a about how strange it was to him to experience Dorian's precise knowledge in an actual training session .

  • @TheShapelessAndFormlessVoid
    @TheShapelessAndFormlessVoid Місяць тому +2

    Obviously there's no way to tell what would have happened and we can't turn back the clock, but others have analyzed the same thing and reached the same conclusion, which was that Coleman's strength in his prime was world-class at the time.
    One interesting thing is that Coleman didn't max out at his peak, everything was for multiple reps and he didn't go to failure on his heavier lifts, so we don't actually know just how strong he was or how much more he had in the tank.
    All that being said, it seems safe to say that if he had directed his energy toward strongman instead of bodybuilding and focused his training on strongman then he would almost certainly been competitive at the world level in the sport. Definitely an interesting what-if.

  • @Brandon-qd2lb
    @Brandon-qd2lb Місяць тому +1

    2005 WSM was awesome. Really want to see it back in China again.

  • @Lindforce1
    @Lindforce1 Місяць тому

    Mariusz will always be my favorite strongman of all time. Dude was an absolute freak of nature back in the day.

  • @adamlea6339
    @adamlea6339 Місяць тому

    I believe by figuring out strategy on the non gym-lift events and in off-season condition he certainly would have a good chance of winning WSM.

  • @keeslissenberg2781
    @keeslissenberg2781 Місяць тому +2

    No, couldn't move at his heaviest, couldn't breathe. for strongman not too heavy.

  • @juliohernandez3323
    @juliohernandez3323 Місяць тому +1

    As a bodybuilder no chance in Hades for Ronnie, but I could guess that if he trained for the WSM he could have been competitive, but I dont see him anywhere near the podium. His height would have not helped him at all either. Marius is probably one of the shortest WSM winners if not the shortest and that lack of height hurt him in several challenges. It was the blend of power, speed and explosiveness that made Marius such as a force in these competitions.

  • @stackered
    @stackered Місяць тому +1

    Wow, I can close a captains of crush 3 (natty, does some strength training, BJJ for years) pretty easily. I have massive hands tho

  • @tophertaylor68
    @tophertaylor68 Місяць тому

    Massive what ifs make for an entertaining comment section. Well played crab king, well played.

  • @chapelknight951
    @chapelknight951 Місяць тому +1

    I concur with your estimations here. I love Dorian Yates, but he was all glycolytic fast twitch as he could skip warm-ups and do things like rowing 405 as if it were a broom handle.
    He'd use all of his muscle fibers at once and wear them down very quickly, meaning no longevity during a competition. Ronnie had more endurance

  • @therambunctiousrobloxian9323
    @therambunctiousrobloxian9323 Місяць тому

    going based off bodybuilder numbers is the craziest part because if Ronnie went full strongman you know he'd be 360 and putting up 9s in squat and deadlift

  • @TzeentchLordofChange
    @TzeentchLordofChange Місяць тому +1

    as a former police officer myself, dont give ronnie the pass on passing the physical fitness test for officers out of hand, many departments only require the initial one and you never have to pass another. Lots of officers are slim when they start and get pretty fat on the job from poor diet and lots of seat time in a car, and couldnt run 200 meters if their life depended on it.

  • @joec1179
    @joec1179 Місяць тому +1

    Think off season ronnie on static strength he would of been up there, but moving events i think he would of massively struggled

  • @alienlife9832
    @alienlife9832 Місяць тому +2

    Ronnie is a great champion........but no way he even makes wsm final far less win it !!

  • @hughbrowne7362
    @hughbrowne7362 Місяць тому +1

    If Ronnie had of trained for strong man specifically he'd of made Puzinowsk train harder and try harder at each event, it's really hard to give it more than a 50/50.

  • @nebbie
    @nebbie Місяць тому +1

    Great video. It would be helpful to give lb and kg for all numbers!

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  Місяць тому +2

      Great suggestion! Would definitely be hard to keep it all straight but I can try!

  • @d00dxKVLT
    @d00dxKVLT Місяць тому +1

    Ronnie competing in WSM2005 is like Wide Pavlo now. Technique trumps brute force in strongman

  • @YourTechGerman
    @YourTechGerman Місяць тому

    Wouldn't that have been something! I always wonder what such incredibly strong bodybuilders could have been capable of, if they decided to skip that Olympia this year and go wreak havoc in another strength sport. Entertaining for the rest of us for sure :D

  • @craigcameron2100
    @craigcameron2100 Місяць тому

    YYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHH BBBUUUUDDDDDDDYYYYY every time he's at the top of a squat 😂

  • @bar8665
    @bar8665 Місяць тому

    In Mariusz ' defense on some of the lifts vs Ronnie. Mariusz was doing them back to back on the same day or following day in the events. Ronnie was way more fresh on most lifts.

  • @outshimed
    @outshimed Місяць тому +1

    It's a fun thought experiment and Coleman would have definitely looked impressive on the field, but I really don't see him coming in at the top in any era.

  • @ArthurKain
    @ArthurKain 23 дні тому

    Ronnie just needs to shout "Yeah buddy!" To get that boost for his strength and stamina, guaranteed win.

  • @queefersutherland8495
    @queefersutherland8495 Місяць тому

    Have you ever did a video on derek poundstone? I was sure he was going to be next up but guess injuries got him. Dont remember the year but when they were doing the load and carry in the water he was huge.

  • @shvetabhandari2474
    @shvetabhandari2474 Місяць тому +1

    Truck pull relies on arm strength? Didnt Mitch win by 3 seconds while letting go of the rope 3/4th of the way through?

  • @TheSaxon.
    @TheSaxon. Місяць тому +2

    Mariuz would destroy Ronnie. Both would be stronger today though, if training specifically for more static strength.

  • @yan3066
    @yan3066 Місяць тому +2

    Could Mariusz Pudzianowski won the Mr. Olympia, aka the best bodybuilder competition ?
    Could be a good one too. I mean, the guy had the body of a Greek god.

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen Місяць тому +1

      Yes He Could

    • @ElssaAbom
      @ElssaAbom Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠@@DavidVirtanenno he can’t he not be in top 10 come on he can’t beat jay or Gunter or Dexter or Markus or Dennis, I respect Marius he and big z and Thor they are the best ever in wsm but also how Ron can’t match Marius in strength the same thing Marius can’t match Ron in bb

    • @ElssaAbom
      @ElssaAbom Місяць тому

      here they compare Ron vs Marius about who is stronger but in body building Marius has no chance to come close vs Ron prime Ron in bb Marius can’t be close to him and that a fact

  • @psilocybin5983
    @psilocybin5983 Місяць тому +1

    Mariusz pudzianowski the man, the legend. Unmatched domination.

  • @dereknkolb
    @dereknkolb Місяць тому +3

    Range of motion...

  • @lanefuller34
    @lanefuller34 Місяць тому

    This is an interesting breakdown, but the interesting thing is all of Ronnie's best known lifts came from a time when he would be extremely weak relative to his max.
    If he actually trained for-and more importantly, ATE for-strongman, I think he's a serious contender. Its not even just off season vs in season, imagine if he was never cutting and ate like a strongman fulltime, allowing his muscles to just grow year round. I see him being a monster.

  • @funkykoval78
    @funkykoval78 Місяць тому +1

    Ronnie would probably got heart attack trying to carry shield or anything long distance with good pace

  • @user-lg3pb1tv2u
    @user-lg3pb1tv2u Місяць тому

    Marius now have forty is still competing in martial arts but he's heading to the the of his great career but I must admit his physics allow him to be bodybuilder aswell 😮

  • @pricerowland
    @pricerowland Місяць тому +2

    Given all of his injuries, I don't think Ronnie's joints or connective tissue would have been strong enough to withstand the demands of Strongman.

  • @SAMSON12321
    @SAMSON12321 Місяць тому +4

    Remember Mitch... When Ronnie did the 800 pound multi-rep Squat. It was done four weeks out of the Olympia and he was carb depleted, on a diet for weeks and had water restriction.
    So I wonder what he would have been able to do if he was well fed and carbed up.?... Hmmmmm

    • @Agnes135
      @Agnes135 Місяць тому +4

      You don't water restrict that close to competition. Plus his gear use probably doubled with the use of orals etc, he was probably stronger than ever

    • @SAMSON12321
      @SAMSON12321 Місяць тому

      @@Agnes135
      Agnes you're doing a LOT of assuming which never holds up well.
      Doubling gear use? The only thing that is used are diuretics and fat burners... NOT MORE TEST/GROWTH/IGF ETC.
      Stronger than ever? A athlete is at his WEAKEST close to contest day due to the severe food restrictions, lack of sleep, and tiredness. But most important is the weakness that comes and the increase INJURY RISK... Many athletes are injured close to and/or immediately after a contest.
      I CRINGE AND CLAMP MY TEETH EVERY TME I SEE THIS VIDEO thinking in the state he is in a CATASTROPHIC injury could have taken him out for good.

    • @Agnes135
      @Agnes135 Місяць тому

      @@SAMSON12321 Well that's just lies, I am a competitive bodybuilder. I've been coached by a decently high level ifbb coach. I take it you know all of this from experience yourself? No, you probably don't even work out. I didn't say more test, usually you reduce your test and increase masteron, add tren and orals, which would boost your strength to temporarily much higher levels

  • @stevegee6529
    @stevegee6529 Місяць тому +2

    Ronnie was statically strong would not do aswell as you think. No chance. He would gas out fast on most events. If he trained for 6 months before the comp he may do much better

  • @idk13539
    @idk13539 Місяць тому +7

    No

  • @raindropsonthewindowsill5170
    @raindropsonthewindowsill5170 Місяць тому +2

    If Ronnie Coleman would have turned up in his Mr. O shape he wouldn’t even have made it into the final due to the hideously low body fat which would have 1) resulted in ZERO energy; and 2) would have made him extremely susceptible to injury as well.
    If, however, he was give some time to train for strongman (let’s say 6 months), I would’ve given him the benefit of the doubt (just ‘cus he’s him).
    [edit: is that a realistic take? Probably not, but it’s fun to speculate]

  • @emissary_kyle
    @emissary_kyle Місяць тому +1

    If Ronnie was fully hydrated and properly trained for strongman I think he'd surprise everyone. Would he be beat one of the GOATs of the sport? Probably not. His height is a factor, it'll definitely affect his technique, maybe not so much on this iteration of WSM but any sort of medley requiring loading could cost him seconds.

  • @andyanderson5637
    @andyanderson5637 Місяць тому

    Ronnie used to put 225 on barbell and do lunges a football field length, Jessie was friends with him,if he hadn't passed away im almost sure he would have won WSM title following year he came 2nd to super Mario he was on Mario heels.peace be with Jessie God rest his soul real good hearted Man.