How this 64 year became a successful Stock Market Trader ?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Watch Mr. Vivek Bajaj, co-founder of StockEdge and elearnmarkets talk all about trading with Mr. Ranjit Kumar Mohanty.
He has 40 years of Corporate Experience in HR with Tata Steel, Ferro Alloys Corporation, Orissa Power Generation Corporation and Aditya Birla Group. Later he retired as Sr. Vice President HR. His first application for IPO was in 1983. Since then, he took keen interest in market as a small investor and trader. He has been a full time trader and investor since June 2020.
Our speaker has been trading options and that's his major source of revenue in the stock market as we can see in this video. However, he is also exploring different areas such as cash market, which will be thoroughly discussed here.
The major part of the presentation is based on the Option Wheel Strategy, which is followed by our speaker and he will teach this to our learners. You need to watch till the end to understand this strategy of selecting stocks.
The trading view will be presented and the NSE website will also be a part of this presentation for more clarity as our speaker will also tell us about the calculations.
Future and options, call and puts are a necessary segment in the stock market, which is used by many for a stable income option. Our speaker will shed a light on these areas for more clarity and how to select the right stocks for maximum gains.
He has 2 improvisation tips known as Staggered Buying and Bull put spread, which will be given in detail for a better advancement in this field. As a 64 year old, he has a wide array of experience in the stock market all these years, which can help our learners in becoming a successful stock market trader.
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Ranjit ji is the only options wheel trader(in India) active on social media and helping people with this strategy. I have been following Ranjit ji on youtube since last 1 year and got inspired to work regularly on CSP strategy from him only.
He is constantly trying to improvise the generic "Wheel Strategy" as per Indian conditions. Vivek ji, please do Part-2 with him ; am sure he will have much more to share next time.........
Yes Ranjit Mohanty is a very good and dedicated trader, and very helpful to his followers. Karanjit
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Sir ji well said .... OWS is the only one strategy u can do Trading as well as Investment .i agree with ur views
Congratulations sir ji
Like to clear one point with you
@@navinlotlikar3801 ??
It is surprising to know that you have grown as an successful trader in your post retirement time. It is amazing.Congratulations & All the best Sir..
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i have been following this strategy for last one year. and he is right we can easily make 12 to 16 percentage annually easily
It's just so inspiring that this gentleman is telling his story so people know what they can do even after retirement so they don't have to depend on anyone.
Thank you, Sir
It’s really a great presentation. Cash secured put is classical book style way, It’s like Sunil Gavaskar playing a test match. I understand that a put at 8% to 10% away from strike price is generally at +/-20 delta. I think with the same or slightly more margin you can sell a call and convert it to strangle. There are many ways to manage the put/ call if they fall in the money, depending upon the time to expiry and intrinsic value. We can either adjust the strike positions or roll over. Holding the position in stock options in the last week of expiry requires more margin, rolling over the position to next month will be good option. Mr. Vivek Bajaj I appreciate your work in sharing knowledge.
Thank you.
Vivek sir salute to you for amazing speakers search
May ganapati bappa bless you abundantly
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Very secure speculation👃👃
This is called "seyane seyane lorai", 😄
Very informative but amusing Face-to Face conversation between two masters. on the topic of Option wheel strategy. Thank you Vivek Sir and thank you Ranjit Sir for this presentation. Waiting for the second part.
mind blowing video. Ranjitji and Vivek bhai wonderful.
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I m 74 yrs making money in trading
Choro moh maya abb
GREAT EFFORTS BY VIVEK JI IN FINDING GEMS
I follow only two channel one your UA-cam channel & one telegram channel TRUSTED TRADING. You both are amazing. Keep posting videos ✌️
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I liked this video very much
Thanks vivek ji for bringing him
Both of you are very good person
I also follow ranjit sir
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Nice knowledgeable video, congratulations to both of you
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Vivek ji, don't say your videos are boaring... For serious learner your videos are not at all boaring...
Simple and secured, Very nice sir ji
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This type of trading is done by many in India, there is another youtuber Mr.Manoj Kumar jain, aka topi wale chacha, who has made many videos on similar topics in a much easy way, although no offence to anyone, this strategy is not perfect for generating regular monthly income, there need modification in this strategy, for example if you sold 210 pe and it goes deep in the money and you buy stocks and try to sell 210 ce, you will hardly get any premium, you have to wait until it reaches nearby level of 210 ce, when i was trapped in this kind of trade, I devided the value of 210 pe at closing price by 2, and sold sold 2 lots of put for next month (of the value which comes after dividing by 2, strike price is not important), so that even if the price does not rise, you can be a winner very next month
Very nice if this concept fit in mind. Very easy to handle csp. Thank you both Sir
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Still not convinced with this strategy. Once share prices dip like they do off and on ur return on covered calls are very tiny. U need to hold for a long time till share prices recover. Would welcome thoughts on this This will work well in bull markets
Well, this works the best when the entire market has crashed. You will get crazy high premiums for selling puts when VIX goes above 50. This strategy is meant for people with big capital and who are willing to buy shares at a discounted price. Warren Buffett had purchased Coca Cola at a heavy discount just by repeatedly selling cash secured puts month after month. If the market goes up you can book profits on the shares or just hold them forever.
very good session, thanks to both of you
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Hi Vivekji, namaskar, and Happy Diwaali. Kya part 2 telecasted ?
thanks both of you sirs
you know its different when vivek sir has to say " main toh 5 saal ka tha "
V inspriation thanks both of you
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Thank you sir for your efforts,
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Ranjit Mohanty Sir, is very honest and totally transparent investor-trader-teacher.
He preaches only that- what he practices. His strategies are simple, practical and effective.
He is in a way on mission to spread knowledge freely to the new retail traders following him.
Thanks Vivek Bajaj ji for bringing him on ELM.
❤️
@@RanjitVideoshow can I join his channel?
Ranjit bhai is a dynamic and creative personality, I know him personally. He kept the strategy so simple that one can easily earn 2% return. God bless you ranjit bhaina. Best wishes, Sanjeeb Rath, Saudi Arabia
I am seen & worked this strategy on call side , ultimately the all your profits are taken by operators if you see from March 20 to march 22 because one has to face the bullish and bear position in the share. Secondly so much involvement please find someone who can give every clear strategy on this subject.
@@sanjeebkjorath5307 Thanks a ton, Sanjeeb Babu
This is very dicult, Vivek sir
Point number 11 I have doubt ...how the acquisition cost will remain at 206.35 ? We will be buying the shares at 170 right ?
Thanks older traders 👍👍
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wonderful video - i am not clear as to why we need to buy the stock as the stocks will get assigned automatically when the put option expires ITM - I have not done it yet so maybe I am missing something
Assignment has it's drawback. An hefty amount you have to pay to your broker to the tune of Rs. 2000 approx. Secondly, in a downtrend market, you can not take advantage of Staggered Buying Technique, that I discussed.
@@RanjitVideos Respected Sir,, when we're not sure of the direction of the stock bullish or bearish than how to decide to sell call or sell put without technical indicators and Greeks knowledge. Kindly reply. Regards.
@@Yours608 Should wait till the direction is clear. May check Stockedge or other scanners for breakout signals
dil se tha...👍👍
Thank you Vivekji, such a wonderful work
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I did not understand how to trade online without a broker. Please advise. I am @68 , totally new ,developing interest, just trying to understand before taking any action.
Open a demat account for online trading. If you want to interface with a dealer, you may open the account with full service brokers such as Kotak Securities.
Starting music is very louder.
Make it low volume.
If possible make it soft.
very nice video
Second inning vedio is most aspiring
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Hardwork desiplin nevar is money on market...
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It was a great presentation. Thanks for sharing. Just one thing is not clear, how will the taxation of cash and derivatives be managed?
Suppose there is profit in cash and loss in call writing, then how will adjustment be done from taxation point of view?
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I am doing wheel strategy for the last 5 years and easily without risk make 30% annualized return.
Great to know
@@RanjitVideos the most important thing u said and what is the heart of this strategy is to only sell put option on the stocks you want to own if assigned. Don't do this on any meme stocks for quick money. Don't over leverage with margin account. I generally do one standard deviation put strike price and therefore the winning probability is 84%.
@@saurabhjain7672 Sir in this current bearish market,, if we wish to get similar return as in bull market,, what improvisation we shall do? Kindly reply. Regards.
@@Yours608 this strategy works even in bearish market as put premiums are high due to increase in volatility. I still sell puts but only weekly or max biweekly on stocks and go low on strike price that has very high probability of not getting breached. I only aim for $1 premium ($100 per contract) which are very far OTM.
@@saurabhjain7672 Sorry to bother again,, let say stock price is 1000 cmp. So appx. What will be your ideal strike price to sell put sir? Any hedging do you use for it ? And 1 $ or 100$ is how much in INR per contract? Please revert and thanks for prompt helpful response.
THANK YOU.
M K Jain ( he wears hat on UA-cam) is Copying him from 2021. And changed his strategy names and charging big😊😊😊.
SAME NITISH KUMAR STRATEGY
04:05 1983 MAIN TO 5 saal ka tha 😁😁😁
but
i was in
"MIND"
Video starts from 11:00
Addon to this strategy :
Choose FNO stock which has RSI below 30 and sector ( to which this stock belong) RSI is more than 70
Doing this you can reduce down side when call is sold
Aside point of margin penalty in case of IMT closure you have not taken in consideration
Wish you all the best
Market ka baap maai ka LaaL
Great. That's why I said Technical knowledge is always better. Thank you.
@rehan shaikh on these lines, what would be your suggestion for selling CSP?
Rehan Sir, kindly tell ki if we don't know the direction of the stock, bullish or bearish,, than how to know whether to sell put or sell call?
@@urviscakeacademy948 with 30 lacs capital i would prefer to trade cash or futures only instead of messing up with CSPs. ..or any option or opinions related strategy... options are satta wiser is avoid option trading...so if it is to play satta..you don't need SL...play it aar ya paar with clear mindset of either loosing it all or make it xxx fold
@@Yours608 sir when you don't know the things better don't trade....andhre me gufa me rasta talsho ge to sirf thoker milegi..hire sirf kahaniyo me milte hai.. sorry for little harsh revert
Agar stock down hua to next month kon sa call short karenge
That's why the improvisation is staggered buying which has been discussed in the video
@@RanjitVideos agar full qty buy k baad down ho to kon sa strike short karna
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Thanks regards
@@aliansbelians8249 It is Ranjit's Helpful Videos
The strategy works well with NIFTY. If we use following rules (even more rules can be added by other users 🙂, that is the beauty of using a platform filled with knowledge ppl)
1 - Sell 3 months forward PUT of nifty, which is liquid with 500 multiple figures
2- Use monthly chart to find the support (CP - 16411, Big Support seen near 15750 - 14930), so 15200 put sell July series at 170 and you will get 170*50 = 8500. 15750 is monthly bollinger band mid line and 14930 is monthly supertrend
3 - One can then buy 10-15 rs put of May series to protect them with a huge fall. May series 14500 put avbl at 10rs. You can buy June series put at 10rs once month expiry end.
4 - Once you see nifty brakes first support 15750 after May then shift your July put to Aug by few points lower. If 15750 broken before May then hold.
5 - Even if you see in the money put, try your level best to keep forwarding till next month. But in every case, your put will be hedged with further 5-10% level as you kept buying 10rs monthly put.
6- Even if you keep the put for 6 months and keep forwarding next month, max you need to hold the put for 9 months and your in the money put will become out of money (you can check it through corona fall as well).
7 - Despite above, even if you have to buy then you can buy nifty etf of equalent amount (15000 put means 15000*50 = 750000 worth nifty etf) and start selling call of 3 months forward. Even 1500 points away call of 3 months forward can give you 90-100 points. Check 18000 July call rate, its 96.
Very nice
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I was doing this strategy for a long time in INFY. But I got stuck at the price of 1725. Now the problem I am facing that I am not able get enough premium even in 1700 call. Because the price is almost 200 rupees lower than the invested price. Can you (Mr. Mohanty) suggest what should I do now?
That's why I adopt staggered buying technique. In factI have bought 100 INFY at 1629 and sold 1720 CE of May series. Thereafter I have already booked profit in the said CE. Still I have to buy 200 more INFY to make it a lot. But I am not buying. I will now sell a CE above 1720 or more for June 22 series. When I sell the CE, I will decide whether I have to buy few shares, say 50 shares, to reduce my average cost of holding.
@@RanjitVideos thank you, sir. I've got my answer.
@@RanjitVideos your passion and dedication to explain is commendable, please keep on sharing your knowledge to youngsters, thank u sir.
You can hedge it with NIFTYIT
@@vijaysingh-th1sh By buying Nifty IT stocks, you are suggesting Sir?
vekji toooooo good
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Ser me sikhna chahta hu
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Sir how contact with you
Vivek Ji or me?
Sir app se
I have watched more than 20 videos of F2F, what i have found from the video is, the guest brags about his credentials and how he has made so much money and all that... Not even a single method revealed by all the guests would have made a single trader profitable in real life...@Vivekji you know it very well. You try to behave like a novice and ask questions to the guest on we viewers behalf...But deep inside, you know what the guest is talking about are mere generic stuffs that everyone knows. Bottom line is, Nobody will ever reveal the real way of him making money. Lets not beat around the bushes.
Making a lot of sense
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One bad trade will trap you in this strategy. Didn't liked.
Sir, you don't look like 64 and 45 years... Too young for your ages.. and sharing knowledge from ages... 😂😂
Bogus learning
bhala adami lagta hai
Sir invite Ranjit Ji again. He is man with ethics and honesty. I loved his simplicity.
This is really great personality....not like Nitish Kumar (only bakchodi) which you brought on your channel.
I suggested you Mr.Ranjits name in my DM dated 13 Jan 2022 and and within 4 months you interviewd him...Thanks a lot !!!
Thank You
Nice and seemingly safe strategy. Was aware of Cash secured put. It was a new learning to know about the "option wheel" which makes this strategy repeatable on your favorite stock
I have a question. Capital requirement will be more than 15 lakhs i think if we have to buy shares incase if trade goes ITM put and for next month we have to sell a call. Hope i am thinking correct?
Many many congratulations on your achievement Sir 👏😊👏🎉
विवेक सर मे आपसे रिक्वेस्ट करता हु की घनश्याम सर को invite किजिये. घनश्याम सर ये इंडिया के सबसे बडे options buyer trader he..pls...
Very nice information sir
Wonderful strategy.
I have a very basic question, How to check the liquidity whether the stock has liquidity or not?
Please limit your trade within NIFTY 50
@@RanjitVideos Thanks👍
I am so inspired of this video if he can do it I can do it too. And I am thankful of this channel.
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Nice face to face. Awaiting for part 2
I also follow Mr Ranjit since long time.
i demanded his interview and ranjit sir is here, thank u so much sir for bringing him here ,
There is no age limit of beginners. Best' example is founder of KFC
One off the best statagy for elders, Thanks Thanks
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This is a good education. Thank you.
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Excellent presentation, nicely prepared slides
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ranjitjj waiting for part 2
Thank u Vivek Ji for having Ranjeet ji in the interview. At one point Ranjeet ji told that he has invested near about 80 to 85 lacs in the option wheel strategy and he trades in 8 to 10 stocks at a time and all the stocks will not go down at a time but at the time of correction we have seen that Nifty sensex goes down by 10 to 25% and which may be eminent considering the current market scenario and at that time all the stocks goes down mainly the fundamentally strong stocks which are part of the Nifty 50. So in this condition the loss will be massive. So what will be his strategy to overcome this condition. Kindly ask this question in the part 2 with Ranjeet ji.❤
I am 59. This F2F is quite re-assuring for people like me. I also follow this strategy occasionally. Thanks for your efforts and sharing the learnings..
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I have been doing this strategy for sometime now but only today I came to know it is called as Option Wheel Strategy (OWS).😀
Thank you sir 🙏
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Amazing video! Waiting for part 2!
Ranjit Sir , is Best person . Humble and honest
A typical HR guy, making simple things very complicated, too much of speech unnecessarily with not much substance.
Odisha ra loko…. Wow
Best Peaceful strategy.
Warren Buffett also doing this strategy a lot.
Mr Ranjit and Vivek ji : Both r immensely gifted and you both are doing a fabulous job in reaching out to the masses and in a very simplistic way. Best wishes to both of you.
We now await Mr Stitha Pati with Vivek Bajaji ji!
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What if share price drops by 40% like Yes Bank?
This guy Ranjit is great... Myself following his channel from the beginning.. he is one of the guy who started option wheel in indian market
He is a brilliant teacher
@@indranildas8929 Thank you.
Ranjit sir is so sweet ❤️ thank you for this f2f❤️🙏🏼
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Best teacher ❤ thank you for introducing this teacher 🙏🏼 thank you vivekji for these wonderful videos 📹 please continue with your hard work ❤
Vivek ji as always very pin pointing queations to educate viewers, hats off, also hats off to daring Ranjit sir, at this age and in this market he is into options trading.
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Thax sir
Ranjit sir one of the most transparent trader.
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Fantastic Video 😍😍
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My dream to come for an interview on your channel with the same caption but little earlier....
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