@@arthurmartinson4370 Sadly, we do tend to ignore the early Mesopotamian religious traditions. I think part of it is that the Abrahamic faiths are so deeply derived from them. If we had a better understanding of those roots, the books of the Bible might be better understood as works of literature.
@@ronaldbaxter5499 Yes, we are painfully aware of that. According to Evangelical Christian nationalists, Moses discovered Columbus Ohio in 1942. That's a slight hyperbole that Aron loves to use, but hopefully you get the point that they are willfully ignorant of even their own recent history.
Hey Paul, you’re right. The Crusades, Spanish Inquisitions made it near impossible for other civilizations to exist thanks to your wonderful Christian morals.
When the Spanish arrived in South America, they found natives who were sacrificing people to blood gods so they would have good harvest. It probably disgusted the Spanish, so they got to offing the evil things.
Violence is not unique to any individual group of people. We all have a sin nature that we allow to let us do any number of wrongs from lying or stealing to murders. We all fall short of God’s standard which is absolute moral perfection and once we die, we will be judged for all our wrongs and be sent to hell to pay for our own sins. But because God does not want people to be punished for eternity, He chose to die on the cross to pay for our sin and was ressurected on the third day. So if you believe in Jesus as God and Saviour and trust in what He did without trusting in your own deeds or character, you will be saved.
@@First-b1u8jall your unfounded supernatural claims aside, let's not try to pretend that the Christian colonists were not some of the most violent people in history, you have to be completely ignorant of the history of the past of 1500 years to think otherwise LOL
@@First-b1u8jno actually we do not all have a " sinful" nature, sin is an entirely Christian cult ideal which I do not accept. Sin does not exist in reality oh and by the way your God falls very short of being perfect, he is jealous, vindictive, violent, selfish and a fkn liar. In fact he is guilty in your own damn book of telling the very first lie.
@@First-b1u8j trust should be earned, not given by faith!! I don’t have a sin nature. I live peacefully with my extended family & we all support each other, w/o stealing, lying, cheating, etc. my life has been lucky that way - but I don’t see awful evil sin in the people I love, I see only their love & beauty. Your way of looking at people as less than worthless w/o god, is sick & twisted in my view
@@Theosis-81 Are you even on the right account to be offended? Did you check this morning? Would hate for you to accidently fein anger on the wrong account. Cuz boy, would that make you look foolish.
"Who wrote the Slave Bible?" Is another one. There was an actual edition of The Bible printed that had been edited to omit anything that would encourage rebellion, and it was distributed to slaves as a tool to keep them in line.
@@davidszeremi1786 The slave bible argument doesn't say that the slavers were christians (even if they were), only that they wanted the slaves to be a specific kind of christians.
Let’s _PRETEND_ the U.S. was built on Judeo-Christian values and beliefs. Does Paul really think our country is operating properly, efficiently, and in a way that benefits all its citizens? Lmao
I find it hilarious that Americans like Paul assume that they're on top purely because they never left the country so have no real context and they're constantly told America is the best place in the world.
It’s literally a merged religious culture. Christianity is just Judaism with extra steps. Islam is actually fundamentalist Judaism that incorporates both Judaism and Christianity into its own revised doctrine. We outsiders view all 3 Abrahamic religions as a monolith. But as far as schisms and sects go, there is a distinct version of Abrahamism for every believer. And no 2 believers are alike.
@ Judaism denies that Jesus was divine in any special way, period. Christianity’s core tenet is that Jesus was extra divine. These two ideologies oppose each other.
Compared to a Muslim country? Yes. Tell you what. You go visit over there, demand entry, demand benefits, and demand to be able to bring your culture to be at the forefront in their homes. Lemme know how it goes. I await your sarcastic responses that miss the forest for the trees, cause why make sense when you can make funny.
Society can not function if everyone is doing God ritual activities like worship and prayer. Luckily, Gods fine tuning includes variety. Thank God for atheism 🙏 Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🤠
Who didn't have enslaved ancestors? Every race was enslaved in America. Every tribe graped, murdered, pillaged and plundered. STFU with your victim mentality
@@ryvercardn3387 What makes you think that you wouldn't enslave anyone in times of war when they murked and graped your family? What was the situation? You people don't consider what, where, when, why, or how.
Just because you need to be commanded as to what the basic common sense functions are in what to do and what not to do doesn't mean that I also need to be commanded.
Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.
The Scandinavian countries have the highest standard of living and often come out on top of " happiest" country polls. Secular countries thrive much more than those who cling to such primitive beliefs that have no basis in reality.
A lot of religions were/are based on the idea that the animals and plants have 'spirits' that can be reached by human rituals and prayers. His assertion just falls over at the first casual thought. How does he manage to be so dim?
When he swore near the end, you knew poor Paul had realized his argument had failed. Paul should never have admitted he didn't know the word interlocutor. Back to the drawing board with you, Paul!
Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.
The people of Afghanistan also think they have a supernaturally given purpose. They have a religion, values, a civilization that lasted longer than the US, and they have successfully driven out much more powerful invaders several times (including the British, the Soviet Union and the US). The caller might not like their religion or way of life (I don't either), but Afghans can say the same thing about the western world.
Making them stay on topic and acknowledge the holes in their logic makes them so angry they jump to slavery. I was waiting for Lincoln was a Republican.
When your engaged in an argument and then start to stutter, know that you have lost the argument and just move on. Otherwise you start to make yourself look and sound utterly stupid.
@JoshuaOpell because religion cannot push or force people to reproduce like rabbits, as most religions do and that people prefer quality over quantity. Religions that did the contrary, like shakers, simply disappeared. :-) It's the same in all the animal world. Some bet on the quantity and produce a lot of offspring that they left to themselves hoping that some will survive. Others, like humans, have much less offsprings but take very good care of the few they have and invest a lot on their education to give them better chances to survive.
@@JoshuaOpell First that has nothing to do with what OP said and second I don't know if what you said is even true but for the sake of argument even if that is true does it matter? As long as secular societies are reproducing enough to carry on a new generation then they don't need to reproduce as much as non-secular societies. Religious countries can make 2 times the children it still doesn't mean their society is better or their beliefs are real.
I'm more inclined to believe that society has been hindered by religion, because the proliferation and spread of religions are overwhelmingly responsible for wars and atrocities and genocides.
You don't need religion to know how to act. Being a social species automatically means we have not only the capabilities but the direct motivation to interact with eachother in a prosperous way. I don't need to appeal to anything supernatural to understand and participate in that. He thinks any real purpose must include a God belief and that's very stupid and arrogant. God isn't necessary now, wasn't necessary then, and won't be necessary in the future.
Jefferson Davis used the Bible to support slavery: "Let the gentleman go to Revelation to learn the decree of God - let him go to the Bible. . . . I said that slavery was sanctioned in the Bible, authorized, regulated, and recognized from Genesis to Revelation. . . . Slavery existed then in the earliest ages, and among the chosen people of God; and in Revelation we are told that it shall exist till the end of time shall come. You find it in the Old and New Testaments - in the prophecies, psalms, and the epistles of Paul; you find it recognized - sanctioned everywhere." The reason slavery was abolished "by Xtians" is that 97% of Amerika were Christians, but acc. to the Bible, Davis was correct.
Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.
@@tylerdyson8410 dude, atheist just means that they dont believe in gods. You're an atheist for every other religion except yours, atheist just go 1 god farther then you do. Atheist dont believe in a god, that's it, nothing more and nothing less then that. Surely this isnt the first time somebody explained it to yoh and you still refuse to learn because you dont care about what's true or not at all as long as you get to feel good about it. You gonna ask me for evidence on a subject you didnt even need evidence for? You gonna say that science is the devil despite using everything science made in your daily life to stay alive and you use to stay as far from god who wants you in the afterlife before you were born? Or are you going to pretend that everything in your book is moral to do yet have issues when others do upon you what your book commands you to do upon non-believers? If you actually believed in god then nothing would stop you from donating both of your kidneys to save somebody else their life and get special priviledges for sacrifying yourself in gods name 🤷♂️ Do it, go to the nearest hospital and fill in the forms
They don't. tyler is a spam account, dropping the same brain-dead copy pasta anywhere they see something they don't like, even if atheism isn't the current topic. Me personally, I report them and move on.
There IS an interesting point to be made within the irrationality of that whole thing. The common belief among Christians in America (from what I can tell,) is that the solution to all our problems is for everyone to be "assimilated" into Christianity, and then we'd all be a unified, efficient society with domestic tranquility, and happiness for all. If everyone would just submit to our religion, it would be utopia! Basically, the same philosophy as`The Borg.` While I agree that division in our society is probably the most negatively impactful phenomenon we have going on, no, force feeding Christianity to everyone is not the answer! In fact "Because a god said so," is probably the worst way to go about trying to have a meeting of minds.
Day 386 of the theist filing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits, any form of afterlife or other divine or supernatural beings. Just the usual claims they can’t support, hollow assertions and whining when their failures get pointed out.
@@Theosis-81 Why can’t you just post like an adult without the childish name calling? Before you answer, don’t say it’s because everyone else does it first, because you’re lying.
@tonyclements1147 if you believe in gawd why can't you demonstrate it?? Instead ultimate gamble war on non believers like transformers. Religious decepticons
Even if you were right that having common religious beliefs would make building a society. And that's quite likely as the more things you have in common the easier your society is to build, it doesn't in ANY way show that the religion that is the basis for that society is true. I'd that was the case then you wouldn't see tons of civilizations many of which aren't based on the same religions. The Roman empire wasn't founded on Christianity. Chinese empires predates Christianity by alot. The early civilizations are sumerians. Ancient Egypt. Ofcourse the Norse and Greek mythology. All those had civilizations
There's a huge argument for at least a small part of tomes downfall was then switching to Christianity. There was no more such a bold interest in the glory of Rome, when an all powerful god took that spot
It doesn't hold much weight today either when you consider that the happiest countries on earth and the countries with the highest standard of living are not religious countries but the most secular ones.
Always backwards thinking from religi-thinks. We don't get our morals from a god, we created a god that had our morals. With or without a god, a society still has the same morals.
“It’s hard (not impossible) to form society without god, and there may be some minor potential evidence to maybe suggest that societies without god fail… perhaps” A SOLID CASE “You said we can form societies but you didn’t give any reasons why” Why can we? Or why do we believe we can? “The majority of the people who freed slaves were Christians… soooooo”
I don think people need religion for morals. I think people join & stay in religions because they are moral & want a place that celebrates our devotion to acting as moral agents. Not the other way around. I kept one foot in faith because of this need to see & be seen as moral, until I finally was able to separate my goodness from my god-ness.
Every time I hear "Judeo-Christian", I know the conversation will feel like talking to a brick wall. A complete lack of understanding both Judaism and Christianity, and everything around those topics...
If you're a theist, this divine message is for you: God says, that he wants you to check into a mental clinic, because those voices you keep hearing telling you to do things, is not normal. You must get divine medicine and treatment, from a doctor, in order to better serve the kingdom of god. God wants you well and healthy, not sad and bitter. Don't take your feelings out on poor unbelievers like this.
When this guy said society is dwindling I was just waiting for him to follow that up with some type of phobic or sexist rambling. But I guess he tried hold that card close to the chest, because it is strnage that he never said why America in particular was dwindling, but at the same time I bet he didn't want to be called out for his backwards and hateful views.
As an outsider looking in. I can't tell tell whose deleting what in some of these comment threads. So don't expect to find any discussion here. Mostly just edgy kids trying to be edgy. Atheism at a McDonalds cashier kinda conversations.
The thing is Atheism has nothing to converse about, it's just not believing a god claim. It has no philosophy no science nothing to prove. You call McDonald's workers yet don't even understand the subject yourself 😂
@@Theosis-81the real point is to get people who are trying to win their arguments to use critical thinking skills. Once they do that, many become atheists but most become more intelligent to talk to.
"When you look at all the countries that don't have judeo-christian values" doesn't this basically contradict his assertion? Society exists on earth without Yhwh.
'Twere the Yankees freed the slaves, the rebels that didn't want to. Damn near all of them would have told you they were a xian. ... Unless he was talking about different slaves.
@ isn’t really much of a problem. I’d also like to see sources for that please. What’s important is that secular societies fare better than religious ones.
@ Not true. Religious people are more well adjusted to society; have lower divorce rates, and do better academically. They also reproduce more often and are more likely to be happy. All studies and pew research demonstrates this to be the case.
Can a "perfect god" please stop recruiting stupid people to represent him/her/it/them? ...this problem has been going on for centuries that it seems like this deity looks very much imaginary via the efforts of these stupid, ignorant people.
What is God's intended purpose for YOU? It's spelled out in Ephesians 1. You are meant to be holy and blameless before Him - and Christ and Him crucified enabled that to become possible, where it was NEVER possible in your life without Him. If everyone attained that purpose in their individual lives by their choice to seek Him, find Him and become one with Christ as He is One with the Father, society would need no improvement. Love would reign. Don't let mockers and bullies keep YOU from experiencing Jesus' love for you. John 3 16 invites you to know His love and promise and as you draw near to Him, He will surely draw near to you.
society can certainly exist without a creator. ask Matthew Perry Liam Payne. Aaron carter. Ann heche. Amy winehouse etc. its just that the atheist lifestyle ends in early graves in most cases
Buy-Bull quotes from the one translation of the dozens out there that makes you feel "good"...or are the feelings you get better described as "superior" and "special"?🤔 Why don't you switch it up and post the quotes in the original languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek? Oh yeah, because you would then have to actually get an EDUCATION in those languages and you aren't interested in actually educating or being educated. Remember that "Yahweh/Jehovah/Hashem/Adonai/Elohim/Shaddai/Ehyeh/Tzevaot" and it's offspring "Jesus the Christ of Nazareth" both love.....NOTHING, because they aren't f*ckin' real🤣🤣🤣
Concerning slavery, Paul has apparently never heard of the formation of the very pro-slavery Christian organization known as the Southern Baptist Convention.
Non Judeo-Christian civilization: Rome, Egypt, Greece, India, China. LOL literally the whole world 4000 years ago.
We also had quite a few successful civilizations that arose in the Americas independent of any Abrahamic influence until the Euros came here.
My heart is broken that you forgot Sumeria. 🙂
@@arthurmartinson4370 Sadly, we do tend to ignore the early Mesopotamian religious traditions. I think part of it is that the Abrahamic faiths are so deeply derived from them. If we had a better understanding of those roots, the books of the Bible might be better understood as works of literature.
@- according to Christian those guys didn’t have a civilization.
@@ronaldbaxter5499 Yes, we are painfully aware of that.
According to Evangelical Christian nationalists, Moses discovered Columbus Ohio in 1942. That's a slight hyperbole that Aron loves to use, but hopefully you get the point that they are willfully ignorant of even their own recent history.
Hey Paul, you’re right. The Crusades, Spanish Inquisitions made it near impossible for other civilizations to exist thanks to your wonderful Christian morals.
When the Spanish arrived in South America, they found natives who were sacrificing people to blood gods so they would have good harvest. It probably disgusted the Spanish, so they got to offing the evil things.
Violence is not unique to any individual group of people. We all have a sin nature that we allow to let us do any number of wrongs from lying or stealing to murders. We all fall short of God’s standard which is absolute moral perfection and once we die, we will be judged for all our wrongs and be sent to hell to pay for our own sins. But because God does not want people to be punished for eternity, He chose to die on the cross to pay for our sin and was ressurected on the third day. So if you believe in Jesus as God and Saviour and trust in what He did without trusting in your own deeds or character, you will be saved.
@@First-b1u8jall your unfounded supernatural claims aside, let's not try to pretend that the Christian colonists were not some of the most violent people in history, you have to be completely ignorant of the history of the past of 1500 years to think otherwise LOL
@@First-b1u8jno actually we do not all have a " sinful" nature, sin is an entirely Christian cult ideal which I do not accept. Sin does not exist in reality oh and by the way your God falls very short of being perfect, he is jealous, vindictive, violent, selfish and a fkn liar. In fact he is guilty in your own damn book of telling the very first lie.
@@First-b1u8j trust should be earned, not given by faith!!
I don’t have a sin nature. I live peacefully with my extended family & we all support each other, w/o stealing, lying, cheating, etc.
my life has been lucky that way - but I don’t see awful evil sin in the people I love, I see only their love & beauty.
Your way of looking at people as less than worthless w/o god, is sick & twisted in my view
Theists get so offended because atheists don’t buy their bs.
We don't care if you buy it. We just want you to take your arse clown, dark carnival of freak shows back to the shadow realm where it came from
@@Theosis-81 Prime example right here
@Goneforgoodflsh What makes you feel like I'm offended?
@@Theosis-81 Are you even on the right account to be offended?
Did you check this morning?
Would hate for you to accidently fein anger on the wrong account. Cuz boy, would that make you look foolish.
@@Theosis-81
"We don't care if you buy it. We just want you to take your arse"
Yeah, you want my a$$, you fruity fairy 🤣
"Who do you think freed the slaves?" The argument you use when you realize that you've totally lost the argument.
And "Who do you think wanted to keep the slaves?" is a reasonable respons.
"Who wrote the Slave Bible?" Is another one. There was an actual edition of The Bible printed that had been edited to omit anything that would encourage rebellion, and it was distributed to slaves as a tool to keep them in line.
@@davidszeremi1786 The slave bible argument doesn't say that the slavers were christians (even if they were), only that they wanted the slaves to be a specific kind of christians.
It's funny in a way. Lincoln, while it's more complicated than just him, was highly likely to have been an atheist.
@@BingFox if you mean the emancipation proclamation? Guess how many slaves it freed on day 1?
Let’s _PRETEND_ the U.S. was built on Judeo-Christian values and beliefs. Does Paul really think our country is operating properly, efficiently, and in a way that benefits all its citizens? Lmao
I find it hilarious that Americans like Paul assume that they're on top purely because they never left the country so have no real context and they're constantly told America is the best place in the world.
Could the hosts please explain to callers each time they say “Judeo-Christian” that the joined religion doesn’t exist?
The term just means that there is shared ground between the two.
no they cant, cause this was 3 yrs ago. also judeo christian is very much bs and i wish it was pointed out more often xd
It’s literally a merged religious culture. Christianity is just Judaism with extra steps. Islam is actually fundamentalist Judaism that incorporates both Judaism and Christianity into its own revised doctrine. We outsiders view all 3 Abrahamic religions as a monolith. But as far as schisms and sects go, there is a distinct version of Abrahamism for every believer. And no 2 believers are alike.
@ Judaism denies that Jesus was divine in any special way, period. Christianity’s core tenet is that Jesus was extra divine. These two ideologies oppose each other.
@ Christianity contradicts itself incessantly. What’s your point? 😂 The Jewish bible is literally the first half of the Christian bible.
Basically what Paul is saying is, "I grew up in a mainly white country so obviously what I've been taught is better than anyone else".
Compared to a Muslim country? Yes. Tell you what. You go visit over there, demand entry, demand benefits, and demand to be able to bring your culture to be at the forefront in their homes. Lemme know how it goes. I await your sarcastic responses that miss the forest for the trees, cause why make sense when you can make funny.
Poor old Paul is yet another f__king sicko that cannot be effectively treated.
Society can not function if everyone is doing God ritual activities like worship and prayer.
Luckily, Gods fine tuning includes variety.
Thank God for atheism 🙏
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I was wondering what became of my set of small screwdrivers 🤔
My enslaved ancestors would disagree with Paul about the goodness of those "Judeo-Christian values".
Who didn't have enslaved ancestors? Every race was enslaved in America. Every tribe graped, murdered, pillaged and plundered. STFU with your victim mentality
@@Theosis-81 What makes you think the "well, everyone did it" is a legitimate argument?
@@ryvercardn3387 Because he's a stinking bigot.
@69eddieD OK, true.
@@ryvercardn3387 What makes you think that you wouldn't enslave anyone in times of war when they murked and graped your family? What was the situation? You people don't consider what, where, when, why, or how.
Paul fall heavily on his face with this. 😂 Alan, he is the crazy rant man who called multiple times, never learn and then he gets upset. 😅😂
Love how wound up this guy gets!
I agree, it is fun. However I believe this particular person was just a troll, or at least someone who has zero intention of arguing honestly.
Just because you need to be commanded as to what the basic common sense functions are in what to do and what not to do doesn't mean that I also need to be commanded.
Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.
That statement doesn't just apply to you, it applies to everyone that doesn't believe. Wish they would just keep their crazy to themselves.
Obviously not true. THe least religious countries on the planet are thriving, including Japan, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and others.
The Scandinavian countries have the highest standard of living and often come out on top of " happiest" country polls. Secular countries thrive much more than those who cling to such primitive beliefs that have no basis in reality.
@@jackwhitbread4583 Then why are secular nations not reproducing nearly as much?
@@JoshuaOpellbecause they are smart
@@swedendive Wouldn’t such a society lead to extinction within just a few generations?
@@JoshuaOpell .
Because when women have full control of their fertility, they find better things to do and different purposes other than reproducing.
A lot of religions were/are based on the idea that the animals and plants have 'spirits' that can be reached by human rituals and prayers. His assertion just falls over at the first casual thought. How does he manage to be so dim?
When he swore near the end, you knew poor Paul had realized his argument had failed. Paul should never have admitted he didn't know the word interlocutor. Back to the drawing board with you, Paul!
"Interlocutor", it seems your keyboard isn't acquainted to it very much either. 🙂
@@zer0s0und Whoops! Good eye, thanks! Fixed.
@@MisterG2323it's not especially common outside trained philosophy as a term
@@davidszeremi1786 That's exactly where I first encountered it, in an introductory college philo course.
@@MisterG2323 same
You’ve got to use simpler words when talking to these people…
Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.
@@tylerdyson8410lots of words but nothing of worth
You don't get to dictate what meaning we ascribe to life
@@tylerdyson8410
More spam from a troll who tries to deny he’s a spam troll.
@tonyclements1147 Repent
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Repent for your spam and lies, because only sinners repent.
Paul is going to be shocked when he eventually gets around to actually reading the bible.
"Do you know who freed the slaves?"
Do you know who owned all those slaves that needed freeing?
Paul really thought this out for days. It took a few minutes for the wheels to come off.
It took seconds 😂
The people of Afghanistan also think they have a supernaturally given purpose. They have a religion, values, a civilization that lasted longer than the US, and they have successfully driven out much more powerful invaders several times (including the British, the Soviet Union and the US). The caller might not like their religion or way of life (I don't either), but Afghans can say the same thing about the western world.
@@NelsonCruz77 this is pretty much an example that doesn't serve his point at all isn't it
@@davidszeremi1786 that was exactly my point.
Watching someone try to argue without evidence is like building a house without tools-this was a wild ride! 😂
Making them stay on topic and acknowledge the holes in their logic makes them so angry they jump to slavery. I was waiting for Lincoln was a Republican.
Most atheists don't even know history or understand the times either. They're victims and Christianity is their evil oppressor
When your engaged in an argument and then start to stutter, know that you have lost the argument and just move on. Otherwise you start to make yourself look and sound utterly stupid.
Actually, it's just the contrary: the more religious, the less advanced and civilized.
People migrate from religious country to secular countries.
Then why are secular societies not reproducing nearly as much as religious societies?
@JoshuaOpell because religion cannot push or force people to reproduce like rabbits, as most religions do and that people prefer quality over quantity. Religions that did the contrary, like shakers, simply disappeared. :-)
It's the same in all the animal world. Some bet on the quantity and produce a lot of offspring that they left to themselves hoping that some will survive. Others, like humans, have much less offsprings but take very good care of the few they have and invest a lot on their education to give them better chances to survive.
@@JoshuaOpell First that has nothing to do with what OP said and second I don't know if what you said is even true but for the sake of argument even if that is true does it matter? As long as secular societies are reproducing enough to carry on a new generation then they don't need to reproduce as much as non-secular societies. Religious countries can make 2 times the children it still doesn't mean their society is better or their beliefs are real.
Society has been totally dwindling since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Except, it's the opposite of that.
Leaving out religion, some people can't cope with change but change is inevitable. Looking back through the decades, centuries etc tells us this.
I'm more inclined to believe that society has been hindered by religion, because the proliferation and spread of religions are overwhelmingly responsible for wars and atrocities and genocides.
Been a long painful war with da religious decepticons believers
Why can I only press ONE "thumbs up"?
You don't need religion to know how to act. Being a social species automatically means we have not only the capabilities but the direct motivation to interact with eachother in a prosperous way. I don't need to appeal to anything supernatural to understand and participate in that.
He thinks any real purpose must include a God belief and that's very stupid and arrogant. God isn't necessary now, wasn't necessary then, and won't be necessary in the future.
Clemens was spot on especially with this guy. The easiest person to fool is yourself. A what a magnificent job he does of it.
He doesn’t realize that the reason America is failing is BECAUSE of religion 🤦🏻♂️
In part at least.
In large part, I'd say.
In very large part.
@ plus the billionaires
Jefferson Davis used the Bible to support slavery:
"Let the gentleman go to Revelation to learn the decree of God - let him go to the Bible. . . . I said that slavery was sanctioned in the Bible, authorized, regulated, and recognized from Genesis to Revelation. . . . Slavery existed then in the earliest ages, and among the chosen people of God; and in Revelation we are told that it shall exist till the end of time shall come. You find it in the Old and New Testaments - in the prophecies, psalms, and the epistles of Paul; you find it recognized - sanctioned everywhere."
The reason slavery was abolished "by Xtians" is that 97% of Amerika were Christians, but acc. to the Bible, Davis was correct.
Alright look if you're a committed and honest Atheist you would denounce a meaning of life look a meaning of life is something that goes along with religion it's not provided by Atheism. A Atheist saying they believe in a meaning of life is like me as a Christian saying I believe in reincarnation or like a Muslim bowing to a statue of Bhudda just don't go together or even make since so if you're a real legit Atheist not only should you admit that as a Atheist you don't believe life don't mean anything but act like it my scriptures tell me faith without works is dead but it also says without faith it is impossible to please God. I mean if you are a Atheist not only admit you don't believe in a meaning of life but also act on it meaning you don't care about food , love , family , bedding , health , safety , medical care , hygen , sanitation ect. Also you wouldn't care if you're sick or healthy. When it comes down to morality Atheism doesn't have that yes there are Atheists that have there own morals but let's be honest Atheism is silent on what is right or wrong or okay meaning as a Atheist it's not right or wrong or okay if you donate clothes to the homeless or spit in a homeless person's face because they disgust you or say hello to someone you just met or punch in there face because you find them repulsive or tell your spouse you love her or commit adultery on a daily basis. I consider Atheism to be a form of rebellion and denial. Atheism has no rules on love , family , gender , violence , marriage , faithfulness , lust , sexuality , reproduction , witchcraft , expression ect so yes Atheism/Agnostism is disorder and confusion no accountability. As for a afterlife it exists because of the anatomy of the body is spirit , soul and body. The body is carnal it gets ichy , sick , hungry , smelly , thirty , tired , ect it's carnal able to see , makes sounds and be touched. the Spirit is you. You are not your body or your soul your a spirit being your soul is your thinker , chooser , will , filler ect. When a person dies they can't see or hear or touch of think or eat or drink or anything like that why because there spirit and soul is absent regardless of if you're buried or cremated your spirit and soul leaves after you die either goes to Heaven or Hell a place you can't take a mortal body. There is One God existing in three persons not three Gods but like a way of life or way of existence like this God is not like matter like electricity , fire , heat , stone , ect. God is someone we all have a relationship with even many Atheists curse God out as well as say oh my God. Okay Jesus is God lower case g okay let me explain God yes God is a spirit unseen to the living everywhere at the same time. Okay let's define what a God is a God in a religious context is a deity capital God. In some contexts a god lower case g is a person who is very gifted and talented. God choose to manifest his presence in the flesh and form a person you see the reason why Jesus is god but he was able to die on the cross is because when a person is in the flesh it's limited like this generally speaking God can't die but the flesh can. When Jesus was on earth he did great works preached the gospel , cast out demons , heal the sick , raised the dead , ect it wasn't his flesh doing it. It was the Spirit of God working in the body doing it. Jesus said i do nothing of my own meaning it's not his flesh and blood doing it. It's the spirit of God in him. You see God is not limited like we are God doesn't need to sleep or eat or drink liquids or learn or grow or sweat or use the bathroom so God can do things we can't do God is not limited by location or reality like we are. It was the same Spirit that raised the body up from the dead to show the world they can have hope in God. The Holy Spirit is the mediator.
@@tylerdyson8410 dude, atheist just means that they dont believe in gods. You're an atheist for every other religion except yours, atheist just go 1 god farther then you do.
Atheist dont believe in a god, that's it, nothing more and nothing less then that.
Surely this isnt the first time somebody explained it to yoh and you still refuse to learn because you dont care about what's true or not at all as long as you get to feel good about it.
You gonna ask me for evidence on a subject you didnt even need evidence for?
You gonna say that science is the devil despite using everything science made in your daily life to stay alive and you use to stay as far from god who wants you in the afterlife before you were born?
Or are you going to pretend that everything in your book is moral to do yet have issues when others do upon you what your book commands you to do upon non-believers?
If you actually believed in god then nothing would stop you from donating both of your kidneys to save somebody else their life and get special priviledges for sacrifying yourself in gods name 🤷♂️
Do it, go to the nearest hospital and fill in the forms
@@tylerdyson8410 I dont think you know what a atheist is.
They don't. tyler is a spam account, dropping the same brain-dead copy pasta anywhere they see something they don't like, even if atheism isn't the current topic.
Me personally, I report them and move on.
Love from a Suris and Vaush fan!
The huge elephant in the room is how do you know what the external supernatural purpose is if it's proposed by a super natural being?
“paul, we think you don’t understand how you’re wrong”
“I just don’t understand how I’m wrong”
🤷♂️
Paul seems to have trouble saying "Yes."
Another insufferable caller
There IS an interesting point to be made within the irrationality of that whole thing. The common belief among Christians in America (from what I can tell,) is that the solution to all our problems is for everyone to be "assimilated" into Christianity, and then we'd all be a unified, efficient society with domestic tranquility, and happiness for all. If everyone would just submit to our religion, it would be utopia! Basically, the same philosophy as`The Borg.`
While I agree that division in our society is probably the most negatively impactful phenomenon we have going on, no, force feeding Christianity to everyone is not the answer! In fact "Because a god said so," is probably the worst way to go about trying to have a meeting of minds.
What a good representative of God and Christianity.
Day 386 of the theist filing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, demigods, souls, spirits, any form of afterlife or other divine or supernatural beings.
Just the usual claims they can’t support, hollow assertions and whining when their failures get pointed out.
But you were still a punk 1,396 days ago. How is this reasonable, Va-jay-jay?
@@Theosis-81
Why can’t you just post like an adult without the childish name calling? Before you answer, don’t say it’s because everyone else does it first, because you’re lying.
@tonyclements1147 if you believe in gawd why can't you demonstrate it?? Instead ultimate gamble war on non believers like transformers. Religious decepticons
Remove all the divine jargon and it still stands... a society needs to agree on a purpose - like the growth and security of their citizens...
"I don't know what you are ..."
He was hung up already. Bye!
Even if you were right that having common religious beliefs would make building a society. And that's quite likely as the more things you have in common the easier your society is to build, it doesn't in ANY way show that the religion that is the basis for that society is true.
I'd that was the case then you wouldn't see tons of civilizations many of which aren't based on the same religions.
The Roman empire wasn't founded on Christianity.
Chinese empires predates Christianity by alot.
The early civilizations are sumerians. Ancient Egypt. Ofcourse the Norse and Greek mythology.
All those had civilizations
There's a huge argument for at least a small part of tomes downfall was then switching to Christianity.
There was no more such a bold interest in the glory of Rome, when an all powerful god took that spot
It doesn't hold much weight today either when you consider that the happiest countries on earth and the countries with the highest standard of living are not religious countries but the most secular ones.
@@jackwhitbread4583 Can confirm. Im from Denmark and scandinavia is notoriously secular.
Paul cannot answer simple questions.
"The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." (John Adams, Treaty of Tripoli, 1797)
Paul's never heard of China, Japan, India, Korea, Rome, Greece, etc...
Paul probably has a Greek/Roman statue as his Twitter profile picture
Paul is so in love with his favourite religion, he dismisses all other civilistions down the millenia. Utterly fallacious argument.
Always backwards thinking from religi-thinks. We don't get our morals from a god, we created a god that had our morals. With or without a god, a society still has the same morals.
TAS, when you post clips can you please display the show number or date they are from?
“It’s hard (not impossible) to form society without god, and there may be some minor potential evidence to maybe suggest that societies without god fail… perhaps”
A SOLID CASE
“You said we can form societies but you didn’t give any reasons why”
Why can we?
Or why do we believe we can?
“The majority of the people who freed slaves were Christians… soooooo”
funny how there's plenty of societies that do exist without it then.... And that they consistently score better on wellbeing metrics...
I don think people need religion for morals. I think people join & stay in religions because they are moral & want a place that celebrates our devotion to acting as moral agents. Not the other way around.
I kept one foot in faith because of this need to see & be seen as moral, until I finally was able to separate my goodness from my god-ness.
Afghanistan? Isn't Islam really big over there? It's so abrahamic.
Another stella American...booyah
When the dude said judeo Christian what does he believe the Torah or the 300 plus Jewish commandments?
Where did Christianity go to? When did it dwindle, and why?
I'll see Paul's Afghanistan and raise him Estonia, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands.
And Japan.
Every time I hear "Judeo-Christian", I know the conversation will feel like talking to a brick wall. A complete lack of understanding both Judaism and Christianity, and everything around those topics...
"Sure we can talk about if the bible endorses slavery or not if you wnat to talk for 20 hours"
If he was honest, it would not take 20 hours 😂
If you're a theist, this divine message is for you:
God says, that he wants you to check into a mental clinic, because those voices you keep hearing telling you to do things, is not normal. You must get divine medicine and treatment, from a doctor, in order to better serve the kingdom of god. God wants you well and healthy, not sad and bitter. Don't take your feelings out on poor unbelievers like this.
It's worse than that. They follow the voices that other people hear.
When this guy said society is dwindling I was just waiting for him to follow that up with some type of phobic or sexist rambling. But I guess he tried hold that card close to the chest, because it is strnage that he never said why America in particular was dwindling, but at the same time I bet he didn't want to be called out for his backwards and hateful views.
As an outsider looking in. I can't tell tell whose deleting what in some of these comment threads. So don't expect to find any discussion here. Mostly just edgy kids trying to be edgy. Atheism at a McDonalds cashier kinda conversations.
The thing is Atheism has nothing to converse about, it's just not believing a god claim.
It has no philosophy no science nothing to prove.
You call McDonald's workers yet don't even understand the subject yourself 😂
Then explain Japan.
Let's grant what Paul says. Now how does that prove that a god exists?
That's basically what you people need to stick to. It doesn't matter about your opinions on history or Bible interpretations
@@Theosis-81the real point is to get people who are trying to win their arguments to use critical thinking skills. Once they do that, many become atheists but most become more intelligent to talk to.
"When you look at all the countries that don't have judeo-christian values" doesn't this basically contradict his assertion? Society exists on earth without Yhwh.
'Twere the Yankees freed the slaves, the rebels that didn't want to. Damn near all of them would have told you they were a xian.
... Unless he was talking about different slaves.
Buckle up cause I have some news for you. We’ve always existed without supernatural purpose! 🤯
@@elem-sike4161 The problem is is that secular societies don’t reproduce nearly as much as religious societies.
@ isn’t really much of a problem. I’d also like to see sources for that please. What’s important is that secular societies fare better than religious ones.
@ Not true. Religious people are more well adjusted to society; have lower divorce rates, and do better academically. They also reproduce more often and are more likely to be happy. All studies and pew research demonstrates this to be the case.
@@elem-sike4161 it’s a problem because it would only take one generation of a completely secular world for humanity to go extinct.
These people who say that judeao Christian values or anything don't know what they are talking about! There's no such thing!
Look at other countries that don't have Judeo-Christian values. Like Japan?
Paul is a clown who thinks he is always right, no matter what. $100 says his family hates him 💀
Can a "perfect god" please stop recruiting stupid people to represent him/her/it/them?
...this problem has been going on for centuries that it seems like this deity looks very much imaginary via the efforts of these stupid, ignorant people.
What is God's intended purpose for YOU? It's spelled out in Ephesians 1. You are meant to be holy and blameless before Him - and Christ and Him crucified enabled that to become possible, where it was NEVER possible in your life without Him. If everyone attained that purpose in their individual lives by their choice to seek Him, find Him and become one with Christ as He is One with the Father, society would need no improvement. Love would reign. Don't let mockers and bullies keep YOU from experiencing Jesus' love for you.
John 3 16 invites you to know His love and promise and as you draw near to Him, He will surely draw near to you.
That’s just silly.
society can certainly exist without a creator. ask Matthew Perry Liam Payne. Aaron carter. Ann heche. Amy winehouse etc. its just that the atheist lifestyle ends in early graves in most cases
Why do you post such utter nonsense... Do you actually think anyone takes your insane posts seriously?
Explain what "The singular atheist lifestyle" is.
@@vaskovallidis552 ask ann heche or Amy winehouse Liam pant oh wait you can't. they fell into early graves from the opium of the atheists
Now let's list a bunch of theists who died early by their own doing?
Or is this a completely empty argument?
The latter
@@XEndlessSteelX naw son this a atheist channel. trying to play whataboutism is futile
Repent of your sins. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. Become a new person in this life - John 3:16, Matthew 4:17, 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
Buy-Bull quotes from the one translation of the dozens out there that makes you feel "good"...or are the feelings you get better described as "superior" and "special"?🤔
Why don't you switch it up and post the quotes in the original languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek?
Oh yeah, because you would then have to actually get an EDUCATION in those languages and you aren't interested in actually educating or being educated.
Remember that "Yahweh/Jehovah/Hashem/Adonai/Elohim/Shaddai/Ehyeh/Tzevaot" and it's offspring "Jesus the Christ of Nazareth" both love.....NOTHING, because they aren't f*ckin' real🤣🤣🤣
Stop preaching, its not only juvenile but ridiculous....
@@timothywilliams4089 I do what God wants me to do, not what you want so I won't stop preaching.
@@Jeremy-xu3yuYou do have the right to preach. We have the right to tell you to shut up cuz we don't want to hear lies.
@@Jeremy-xu3yu You are very close to proving that it's possible to literally bore people to death.
Paul, just go away, have a coffee and read a bible. Alternatively, look in a mirror and watch for flaws. God made millions of them!🤣
Concerning slavery, Paul has apparently never heard of the formation of the very pro-slavery Christian organization known as the Southern Baptist Convention.