Convinced me when you said "if you're a heavy runner". That's me, and I'm a heal striker. I've been in the glycerin for the last 2 years and am pumped for these!
Just returned my Superblast 2. Was a bummer, looked forward to them for months. Absolutely destroyed my knees which surprised me as I’ve never had knee issues. Going to give these a try.
There seems to be a design issue with the rubber placement on the heel. If you're a lateral heel to midfoot striker you are going to wear down the foam very quickly and cause uneven wear or unstable heel. Which will bring down the cost per kilometre/mile, which from the price you are saying, they retail for around $260-$300 Australian. 🤷♂️
@@davidrosenthal5795 I have talked about this issue in my review on the clifton 3 about 7 yrs ago as well. Go check it out. If I'm wrong post a video proving me wrong.
Also competing with the Superblast on price. Not really where I would want to be with a trainer unless you are sure you are doing something really special.
I am sure Brooks will make a lot of these shoes in various colorways. It belongs to their mainstream line. Also in the US, it is $20 cheaper than SuperBlast 1/2.
Great review per usual! A question... How is the forefoot compared to the superblast 2? For reference, I went a half size up to 11 for SB2, otherwise I'm 10.5 WIDE.
Interesting shoe .. my current easy day recovery shoe is the std Brook 21 .. to my mind that is enough, not sure if I really need more .. or more versitility having a normal rotation . but still an interesting product the build quality I am sure will be very good with the shoes weighing close to the same for L&R and all those things peeps dont think about.
Nobody seems to question Mizuno Neo Vista which is also EVA. This one at least supercritical EVA. The fact that Brooks was able to manipulate the density of the foam within a single midsole shows they have a pretty advanced process. They have bigger nitrogen bubbles in the heel (softer) and smaller (denser) bubbles in the forefoot for more response. This version of the DNA Loft foam actually reminds me of limited edition Brooks Aurora BL. It was/is a great riding shoe. I would say Glycerin Max is a follow up on that idea (minus decoupled heel)
That description of soft heel landing and firmer forefoot to allow smooth transitions or a more responsive toe-off is exactly what I am not getting from the ASICS Glideride Max. It's soft heel landing into soft forefoot which has resulted in both my runs (20km and 10km) being real slogs. They're hard work, even at plod pace. Hopefully they'll grow on me, but my expectations are now pretty low.
I was excited about it until you said 6mm drop. I understand making the drop less due to the stack height but I think what gravitates people towards the glycerins in the first place is the higher drop.
@@grantmckay7014 I fkg hate high drop shoes, because it FORCES you heels first into the grpund and it is way harder to land constantly midfoot or it feels totaly artificial landing forefoot. And you have to run mid to forefoot because then the shock goes into your quads and knees and destroys them over time. Say hello to my medial meniscus tear after years and years having absolutely nothing and then, suddenly a feeling at the inside of the knee is starting to appear... When barefoot, walk and then up thr speed. As soon as walking turns into slight jogging, you are absolutely running on the forefoot. Because that's how your body is designed to work. Not making fat heels and drops to force you onto your heels, and because THEN you need even more shock absorption, they build even more foam under your heel and increase the drop further... I really like having "just" about 5mm drop, which makes it easier to land mid to forefoot without having tio think aboput this all the time. Therefore: Beeing Asics, I love my Hoka Speedgoat 5 and my Fuji Lite 4, because of the drop i suppose. Otherwise: Novablast 4 TR and Superblast. Additions: Mach 6, Ghost Max (1), Noosa Tri 15+16 (the later as sneaker and the GM1 still to test). Kayano Lite 3 felt ok, but now after some time it felt a little strange compared to the others. The Nimbus 26 I hate! Fat heel and if you try to land in front: hardcore loud slapping onto the ground, terrible!
Of course everyone is different, but these shoes don't work at all for me. I don't find them especially comfortable. After using them for a few days, I found that my run times at easy run effort level are about 5 percent longer in these than in my other shoes, and they just feel heavy and clunky. I am sorry that I jumped on these so quickly based on all the positive reviews, especially given the very high price.
Same as that! Had to fight with the shoe to achieve what I would call easy pace. I eventually gave up. It was as if the shoe was working against me. The sensation to me was like a normal shoe but you're running through mud or sand. I can only see a case for these as a recovery run shoe. But 180£ for a recovery run shoe!?!? Who would pay that?
I just got some and i am finding the very rigid and low ankle collar to be uncomfortable on my heel 😢. Anyone else having this issue? Havent heard any other reviewer mention it so far.
Glycerin was a max. cushion shoe once upon a time when 30-33mm was max. cushion. Today max cushion is like 38-48mm range. Brooks is very conservative with their established cash-cow lines (the beginner runners, walker, just athletic sneakers) so that is why they probably chose to have Ghost Max and Glycerin Max to not risk their sales in those markets but at the same time capitalize on the Ghost and Glycerin name even though these are very different shoes.
Terrible price point, as this puts Glycerin Max in the same arena as Skyward X and Superblast 2. Except this thing doesn't have PEBA or a plate. So where's that cost coming from? Brooks is offloading a chunk of its R&D cost to consumers.
Great shoe, it’s if the Superblast had a Baby with the Nimbus. Love mine, Skyward X is not good. Stop being a fanboi to Peba and in many cases worthless plates.
@davidrosenthal5795 Except for the fact that nitro infused EVA is less resistant to cold and hot temperatures. Pebax on the othethand is not affected by temperature change.
I’m a heavy runner so i think im gonna luv this
Convinced me when you said "if you're a heavy runner". That's me, and I'm a heal striker. I've been in the glycerin for the last 2 years and am pumped for these!
Would love to see a comparison between this, the Magmax, and the More V5. Cheers!
I came here to say this too
Throw in the Hurricane 24 too!
and the glideride max for good measure
Been alternating Glycerin Max and Magmax. Enjoying both.
Just returned my Superblast 2.
Was a bummer, looked forward to them for months.
Absolutely destroyed my knees which surprised me as I’ve never had knee issues.
Going to give these a try.
There seems to be a design issue with the rubber placement on the heel. If you're a lateral heel to midfoot striker you are going to wear down the foam very quickly and cause uneven wear or unstable heel. Which will bring down the cost per kilometre/mile, which from the price you are saying, they retail for around $260-$300 Australian. 🤷♂️
There is not and you are wrong.
@@davidrosenthal5795 I have talked about this issue in my review on the clifton 3 about 7 yrs ago as well. Go check it out. If I'm wrong post a video proving me wrong.
@@davidrosenthal5795 had trouble with my reply comments. Would love to hear how I'm wrong, think it would make for a good conversation point.
Comparison with the Skyward X?
Much better
“Limited quantities”. Taking a page out of the Superblast book
Also competing with the Superblast on price. Not really where I would want to be with a trainer unless you are sure you are doing something really special.
I am sure Brooks will make a lot of these shoes in various colorways. It belongs to their mainstream line. Also in the US, it is $20 cheaper than SuperBlast 1/2.
@@TolunayOrkunno it isn’t, same price as SB in US.
@@davidrosenthal5795 My bad. Yes, it is a bit overpriced. Better wait for discounts/deals.
Biggest question how does this compare to Superblast 2 regarding Slow to moderate paces ranging any where from 5K ~ 20K ?
Very well, Superblast shines at quicker paces but for cruising these are great!
"Skitter along" Haha now that's a new way to explain a higher cadence run!
Great review per usual! A question... How is the forefoot compared to the superblast 2? For reference, I went a half size up to 11 for SB2, otherwise I'm 10.5 WIDE.
Which shoes are softer/squishy nimbus 26 or these?
also which one would you prefer?
This or MagMax for long run please
Pffft Both of course.
Will check out the Glycerin Max, just got the Glycerin 21's man they are nice!!!
I want to get these but you think they will have different color way?
Interesting shoe .. my current easy day recovery shoe is the std Brook 21 .. to my mind that is enough, not sure if I really need more .. or more versitility having a normal rotation . but still an interesting product the build quality I am sure will be very good with the shoes weighing close to the same for L&R and all those things peeps dont think about.
Why don't they have wide versions in the Glycerin Max? Also how do you compare the Ghost Max?
because it's a $200 shoes. Not enough volumn
@@youling1997 How do you compare to the Ghost Max? Would you also use it for walking?
Hi, would this be in a conversation to run a 100k Road race with a lot of up and downs? Thanks
200 dollars for a running shoe with Eva foam.
The superblast 2 looks like a steal compared to all the super stacked shoes
Nobody seems to question Mizuno Neo Vista which is also EVA. This one at least supercritical EVA. The fact that Brooks was able to manipulate the density of the foam within a single midsole shows they have a pretty advanced process. They have bigger nitrogen bubbles in the heel (softer) and smaller (denser) bubbles in the forefoot for more response.
This version of the DNA Loft foam actually reminds me of limited edition Brooks Aurora BL. It was/is a great riding shoe. I would say Glycerin Max is a follow up on that idea (minus decoupled heel)
That description of soft heel landing and firmer forefoot to allow smooth transitions or a more responsive toe-off is exactly what I am not getting from the ASICS Glideride Max. It's soft heel landing into soft forefoot which has resulted in both my runs (20km and 10km) being real slogs. They're hard work, even at plod pace. Hopefully they'll grow on me, but my expectations are now pretty low.
I was excited about it until you said 6mm drop. I understand making the drop less due to the stack height but I think what gravitates people towards the glycerins in the first place is the higher drop.
Agreed. My ankles can’t handle lower drops.
then stay with glycerin.
@@youling1997 didn’t care for it, but thanks.
I am actually the opposite. I need more forefoot protection as a forefoot striker. Everyone is different.
@@grantmckay7014 I fkg hate high drop shoes, because it FORCES you heels first into the grpund and it is way harder to land constantly midfoot or it feels totaly artificial landing forefoot. And you have to run mid to forefoot because then the shock goes into your quads and knees and destroys them over time.
Say hello to my medial meniscus tear after years and years having absolutely nothing and then, suddenly a feeling at the inside of the knee is starting to appear...
When barefoot, walk and then up thr speed. As soon as walking turns into slight jogging, you are absolutely running on the forefoot. Because that's how your body is designed to work. Not making fat heels and drops to force you onto your heels, and because THEN you need even more shock absorption, they build even more foam under your heel and increase the drop further...
I really like having "just" about 5mm drop, which makes it easier to land mid to forefoot without having tio think aboput this all the time.
Therefore: Beeing Asics, I love my Hoka Speedgoat 5 and my Fuji Lite 4, because of the drop i suppose.
Otherwise: Novablast 4 TR and Superblast. Additions: Mach 6, Ghost Max (1), Noosa Tri 15+16 (the later as sneaker and the GM1 still to test).
Kayano Lite 3 felt ok, but now after some time it felt a little strange compared to the others.
The Nimbus 26 I hate! Fat heel and if you try to land in front: hardcore loud slapping onto the ground, terrible!
I'd buy these shoes even for just the looks…🔥🔥🔥
Can this be used to run a marathon?
would you run a half marathon in this?
How to buy
Good colorway choice by Brooks, whereas Hoka Skyward X colors look like an acid trip.
I picked up the Mach 6 in plain all white, loved it, wish they kept colours simpler. Definitely prefer that.
These Brooks look decent
So it’s a Skechers GoRun Max Road 6, but much more expensive. Understood.
Of course everyone is different, but these shoes don't work at all for me. I don't find them especially comfortable. After using them for a few days, I found that my run times at easy run effort level are about 5 percent longer in these than in my other shoes, and they just feel heavy and clunky. I am sorry that I jumped on these so quickly based on all the positive reviews, especially given the very high price.
Same as that! Had to fight with the shoe to achieve what I would call easy pace. I eventually gave up. It was as if the shoe was working against me. The sensation to me was like a normal shoe but you're running through mud or sand. I can only see a case for these as a recovery run shoe. But 180£ for a recovery run shoe!?!? Who would pay that?
I just got some and i am finding the very rigid and low ankle collar to be uncomfortable on my heel 😢. Anyone else having this issue? Havent heard any other reviewer mention it so far.
Wide fit???
Thought the Glycerin was a max cushion shoe in itself,
Glycerin was a max. cushion shoe once upon a time when 30-33mm was max. cushion. Today max cushion is like 38-48mm range. Brooks is very conservative with their established cash-cow lines (the beginner runners, walker, just athletic sneakers) so that is why they probably chose to have Ghost Max and Glycerin Max to not risk their sales in those markets but at the same time capitalize on the Ghost and Glycerin name even though these are very different shoes.
Rather buy the ghost max for close to 100 👍
Terrible price point, as this puts Glycerin Max in the same arena as Skyward X and Superblast 2. Except this thing doesn't have PEBA or a plate. So where's that cost coming from? Brooks is offloading a chunk of its R&D cost to consumers.
Great shoe, it’s if the Superblast had a Baby with the Nimbus. Love mine, Skyward X is not good. Stop being a fanboi to Peba and in many cases worthless plates.
@@davidrosenthal5795🧢
@davidrosenthal5795
Except for the fact that nitro infused EVA is less resistant to cold and hot temperatures. Pebax on the othethand is not affected by temperature change.
Peba is only on paper, you never know the truth 😆
$200 is ridiculous.
Imagine being in Australia where these are over $300!
Oooo delicious
Way too bulky for me
I laugh at these brands trying to charge $$$ in this economy....LMAO! They are shooting themselves in the foot (pun intended).
lack in wide and colors brooks its going down not for me